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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-01-10

---Logopened Thu Jan 10 00:00:14 2019
00:00<xxzz>great
00:01<xxzz>I want to switch to tomoyo instead of apparmor
00:01<xxzz>how to set a user password for single user mode?
00:03<mnuhmnuh>single user mode uses root login, so login as root and passwd.
00:04<xxzz>okay, I will see how I can set that up
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00:17<mnuhmnuh>open a terminal, then su - followed by passwd
00:18<mnuhmnuh>can be done via sudo too
00:20*mnuhmnuh hmm. how do you su - to root when root pword's not set? sudo.
00:26<xxzz>no no, not that
00:26<xxzz>I want to lock single user boot
00:29<mnuhmnuh>lock, or lock out, as in ... what?
00:31<xxzz>the default seem to be okay
00:31<xxzz>it demands a root password in recovery mode
00:31<xxzz>now I will set grub password
00:32<xxzz>I should have seen that before asking here, my bad
00:35<mnuhmnuh>set grub password? didn't know it needed one, or could have one.
00:35<codingquark>Yeah, grub password?
00:35<xxzz>it should have one
00:35<codingquark>Do you mean disk encryption?
00:36<xxzz>nope
00:36<codingquark>Interesting!
00:37<xxzz>GRUB 2 offers basic password protection for its menu and terminal. The user can set up passwords to protect the entire menu or specific menuentries. Passwords can be required for all users or only for selected users. The passwords can be stored in encrypted or unencrypted format.
00:39<codingquark>GRUB has a concept of users?!
00:39<codingquark>Seems I am too outdated
00:39<xxzz>system users
00:40<xxzz>grub-mkpasswd-pbkdf2 will work here
00:41<xxzz>I have mixed feelings about systemd-journald, ip, systemd-resolve, etc
00:52<mnuhmnuh>xxzz: all you need do to bypass grub is boot from usbkey or disk.
00:52<mnuhmnuh>physical acces == no security.
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01:12<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, I'm not familiar with what it should be. That is what I have: https://pastebin.com/DneWLSP7
01:17<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: looks fine to me; stock debian unchanged.
01:19<mnuhmnuh>maxrazer: research how to edit grub commandline to force video mode/properties.
01:19<mnuhmnuh>don't know why it would break.
01:20<codingquark>I have had to do nomodeset=1 many times previously
01:21<mnuhmnuh>codingquark: i vaguely remember similar.
01:21<codingquark>mnuhmnuh: unsupported gfx generally causes this.
01:22<codingquark>No display on boot, or display goes away after boot.
01:22<mnuhmnuh>haven't needed to in a long time.
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01:22<codingquark>Hmm
01:23<mnuhmnuh>i haven't; others likely.
01:23<maxrazer>mnuhmnuh, Oh, it can have something to do with Grub? I think thats it! I got a weird error during install saying it didn't detect grub and wanted to. It warned me that if I did that I might not be able to boot windows.
01:24<maxrazer>So, I installed grub. However, it would boot into windows by default and I get no grub menu.
01:24<maxrazer>It said I could edit grub setup later if needed, but I don't see how.
01:24<maxrazer>I have just been selecting the drive using my EUFI boot selector.
01:25<maxrazer>I'm not sure why this happened, because I was just replacing one linux distro without another, but some use different grub/install I guess. I was replacing ArchLabs
01:27*mnuhmnuh i'm *so* glad i never see win* as a boot option on my box.
01:27<codingquark>cheers mate
01:28*mnuhmnuh scotch, or brandy? decisions.
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01:59<maxrazer>I can't figure out how to fix grub. I found the grub customizer. But, I don't see windows listed and also I don't even get a grub menu on boot.
02:00<maxrazer>What did I do? Didn't I write over the boot partition when I installed debian? So, shouldn't it be fresh and detected windows? Maybe I should not have written to it. Or, maybe I can use debian install with some rescue function?
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02:14<mnuhmnuh>https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI ?
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02:30<xxzz>I think chainloading from grub prompt will work
02:31<xxzz>I had a similar issue with windows 7 without uEFI
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04:08<valghast>lol
04:12<alephnull>I'm trying to add an alternative to x-terminal-emulator but I get an "already managed by" error -- http://paste.debian.net/1059520/
04:15<alephnull>I don't see what I'm doing wrong. This is the syntax that other packages use to add an alternative to x-terminal-emulator.
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04:20<rwp>alephnull, What does update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator say?
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04:26<rwp>alephnull, If it makes you feel any better... I don't see the problem with it either. It looks okay to me.
04:28<alephnull>rwp: http://paste.debian.net/1059521/ (this is the state after I dropped the --slave bit of my earlier command)
04:28<alephnull>As you can see man x-terminal-emulator brings up the wrong manual.
04:30<rwp>Is there a final line missing from that paste too? (I assume there was)
04:31<rwp>I am thinking that you have probably tried this a few times and have a somewhat installed alternative from a previous attempt.
04:32<rwp>Not sure but thinking that "update-alternatives --remove x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/urxvtcd" might clear everything out.
04:32<rwp>Then look around and see that it was all removed.
04:32<rwp>Then try the install command again. I think if it is all clean that the install command should work.
04:33<rwp>Oh, and after removing, check it with --display and if it says manual then reset it to auto.
04:34<rwp>That's all I can think of. Good luck! :-)
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06:15<anong>hi. a recent apt upgrade broke one of my packages. how to undo the upgrade?
06:16<anong>apt-cache showpkg does not offer me the previous version
06:16<avu>!downgrade
06:16<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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06:22<petn-randall>anong: What did you upgrade, and from what version to what new version?
06:23<anong>tor from 0.3.4.9 to 0.3.5.7 via deb.torproject.org/torproject.org stretch main
06:23<petn-randall>,v tor
06:23<judd>Package: tor on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.2.4.27-1; wheezy-security: 0.2.4.29-1; jessie: 0.2.5.16-1; jessie-security: 0.2.5.16-1; jessie-backports: 0.2.9.14-1~bpo8+1; stretch-security: 0.2.9.15-1; stretch: 0.2.9.16-1; stretch-updates: 0.2.9.16-1; stretch-backports: 0.3.4.9-5~bpo9+1; buster: 0.3.4.9-7; sid: 0.3.5.7-1
06:24<petn-randall>!bat
06:24<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
06:24<petn-randall>anong: Can you provide all of the above in a single paste? ^^^
06:28<anong>https://paste.debian.net/1059541/
06:30<valghast>lol DietPi
06:32<itd>dpkg: raspbian
06:32<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
06:33<itd>anong: Please ask in a raspbian channel.
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09:34<peter1138>Hmm, what's the mitigation(s) for the systemd bugs?
09:37<TobiX>Which bug(s)?
09:37<itd>I'd guess https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918841
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09:40<petn-randall>peter1138: Maybe just wait a bit until they're fixed.
09:41<peter1138>Sure. I was hoping there'd be something I can do in the meantime.
09:41<peter1138>Other than shut everything down :D
09:42<petn-randall>peter1138: Well, if you see journald crashing and getting restarting non-stop for dozens of hours, investigate the process that is trying to exploit these three CVEs.
09:44<peter1138>Yeah I'll be watching across several dozen servers ;)
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10:05<amcclure>hello
10:06<amcclure>is security.debian.org not available for powerpc?
10:06<petn-randall>peter1138: You'll know because your CPU will be pinned at 100% for IIRC ~60h on average to exploit this.
10:06<peter1138>Again...
10:06<peter1138>I'll keep an eye on every CPU for a while, okay.
10:07<petn-randall>amcclure: Which release of Debian are you running?
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10:09<petn-randall>amcclure: Also, is this 32 or 64 bit powerpc?
10:09<amcclure>8.11, 32-bit powerpc
10:10<themill>that's definitely on security.d.o
10:12<petn-randall>amcclure: How do you know it doesn't work? What error are you getting?
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10:14<amcclure>W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-powerpc/Pachages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
10:14<amcclure>when running apt update
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10:15<themill>oh, it probably doesn't have LTS
10:15<petn-randall>!wheezy lts
10:15<dpkg>Security support for Debian 7 "Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until 2018-05-31. See http://deb.li/2aC for excluded packages. No changes to /etc/apt/sources.list are needed for wheezy-lts. limited commercial support extending further on exists in form of <elts>
10:15<petn-randall>powerpc is not covered by LTS.
10:16<amcclure>oh?
10:16<itd>petn-randall: wheezy?
10:16<themill>I should have judd drop all those entries
10:16<amcclure>!jessie lts
10:17<itd>dpkg: jessie-lts
10:17<dpkg>Security support for Debian 8 "Jessie" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2018-05-17. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures will receive additional long term support (<LTS>) via <jessie/updates> until around 2020 for a 5 year lifetime total. See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information
10:17<petn-randall>Oh right, but the same applies to jessie.
10:17<amcclure>"until around 2020"?
10:17<amcclure>oh
10:17<petn-randall>amcclure: Did you read the part about the architectures, too?
10:17<amcclure>powerpc was abandoned early
10:18<petn-randall>Not really, LTS doesn't cover the complete package set, and not all architectures.
10:18<themill>no, the others were given a longer support window for a few packages by a different team
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13:51<olafita>Hi folks! I've just spent my afternoon trying to fix a PCIe USB3-Card. It is listed in lspci and lsusb but devices plugged in into that are not.
13:51<olafita>Changing the PCIe-Slot and setting IOMMU=soft in the grub did not change anything. :(
13:51<olafita>Did anyone here had the same problem like me or has another idea what I can try?
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15:05<jhutchins_wk>olasd: Not too many of us using add-on USB cards these days.
15:05<jhutchins_wk>olasd: sry.
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15:10<maxrazer>I have no audio. I'm not sure why. I set the asound.conf to the name of my sound card and have tried two sound cards. It is not musted. I've tried the headphones plugged directly in and an SPDIF to the receiver. I've tried Chromium (which doesn't require pulse audio) and also Clementine, which doesn't require pulse audio.
15:10<maxrazer>I've configured this way many times in the past. I know to paste the default patch from alsa website and I know the name of my sound card is Audigy2 or PCH (for internal).
15:11<maxrazer>The alsamixer shows that the Audigy2 is in fact the default and I'm plugged into the Audigy2
15:12<maxrazer>I know Firefox requires Pulse Audio server.
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15:49<jhutchins_wk>!alsa checklist
15:49<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
15:49<jhutchins_wk>Unfortunately we don't have a pulse checklist.
15:49<jhutchins_wk>maxrazer: Do you have pulse? Have you tried a pulse controller (pavu?)?
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16:05<nightshift>looking for some help on setting up an MOTD files that shows when I open a terminal while in the DE?
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16:10<bremner>man motd
16:11<bremner>basically just edit /etc/motd afaik
16:12<nightshift>motd actually works if you're logged in to a gui, but open a terminal window? (my googlefu has shown conflicting results)
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16:14<bremner>ah. well, I guess that depends on shell setup
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16:16<bremner>you can probably add a script to /etc/profile.d https://access.redhat.com/discussions/1338283
16:20<nightshift>Thanks, I will look at that. I'm actually running buster (didn't think it was a buster specific issue) with the cinnamon DE and bash
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16:35<nightshift>final part of my question, is it possible to do a test how long it's been since a non-login shell was activated? (I'm wanting to have it run apt-get -u upgrade if I haven't been in a terminal window in the last 12 hours)
16:41<maxrazer>jhutchins_wk, I don't have pulse audio installed. No sound in chromium. Maybe it requires it now with latest version?
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16:44<maxrazer>jhutchins_wk, I just installed pulse audio. Even before that the leftright speaker test works, but no sound from anything else using integrated sound. I get it to work with dedicated. Oh, it is probably resampling issue.
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19:20*mnuhmnuh apt-show goban-ss mentions http://www.inetarena.com/~wms/comp/cgoban, which offers to sell that domain from buydomains.com
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19:43<mnuhmnuh>i would really like to see goban-ss w xscreensaver, but it never shows up in the list. what's the trick?
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21:10<mnuhmnuh>i edit ~/.xscreensaver so it is listed, and it says it's not installed. rasafracken, ...
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21:28<maxrazer>Anyone here use debian without any audio server and just use ALSA? I'm thinking maybe that isn't necessary. Also, is pulse audio supposed to start automatically after I install it I'm wondering.
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21:32<mnuhmnuh>geez. "/usr/lib/xscreensaver/goban -root -screensaver &" works, sort of.
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21:59<rwp>maxrazer left before I could say that I do not have Pulse Audio installed, use ALSA, and everything works great.
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22:00<ach>!out
22:00<sarnold>firefox too?
22:01<ach>jessie yes
22:01<mnuhmnuh>rwp: i believe somiaj(?) does the same, no problem.
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