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---Logopened Mon Jan 12 00:00:55 2004
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01:20<risto>$2.4.24-linode20-1um++;
01:21<SupaDongzu>karma for $2.4.24-linode20-1um
01:21<SupaDongzu>oh
01:21<SupaDongzu>sighup: karma for $2.4.24-linode20-1um
01:21<sighup>$2.4.24-linode20-1um has neutral karma
01:21<SupaDongzu>sighup: karma for C
01:21<sighup>c has karma of 76
01:21<SupaDongzu>:D
01:22<SupaDongzu>sighup: karma for 2.4.24-linode20-1um
01:22<sighup>2.4.24-linode20-1um has neutral karma
01:22<risto>I don't do C, just perl or php
01:22<SupaDongzu>sighup: karma for 1um
01:22<sighup>1um has karma of 2
01:22<SupaDongzu>risto: I mean C++
01:22<SupaDongzu>sighup: karma for C
01:22<sighup>c has karma of 77
01:22<SupaDongzu>note how it's up one
01:22<inkblot>sighup, karma for <
01:22<sighup>< has karma of -135
01:22<inkblot>t/hee
01:24<@mikegrb>heheh
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01:25<@mikegrb>night
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02:59<Hansm>shitty lol
02:59<Hansm>i did think i will only see one guy or maybe 3 in support here
02:59<Hansm>but around 25, aah nice bussiness.
03:00<Hansm>Caker isnt replying in my private session, he will be gone or somehow.
03:01<Hansm>But my question is, is it somehow possible to get REDHAT ENTERPRISE 3 on the LINODE?
03:01<Hansm>i have orignal licenses of it.
03:01<Hansm>maybe a idea for more customers who have there own license? let me know it caker, i will leave this chat open, thanks alot.
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04:41<Garry>anyone around ?
04:45<shakr>allo
04:47<Garry>have u noticed any lagging, we run irc vhosts from our linode and we seeing lag
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04:48<shakr>i'm rarely logged in to my linode, by usually around this time of night cron jobs are running
04:49<shakr>its most likely a host issue and not a network issue
04:50<Garry>I will take to caker when he comes on
04:50<SupaDongzu>take him gently, but with the firmnes that lets him know that you are a true man.
04:51<Garry>talk*-
04:51<SupaDongzu>I know
04:52<SupaDongzu>do not mince words
04:52<SupaDongzu>simply grab him in your lustful embrace and show him the passion that only you are capable of
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04:54<shakr>haha
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05:18<wap>Good morning.
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08:33<You_Wish>anybody alive for help
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10:40<EFudd>hrm
10:40<EFudd>my ipv6 tunnel still isn't up
10:40<EFudd>wonder what I've not done.
10:41*EFudd reboots
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10:45<EFudd>oh. working now. :-)
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11:56*jax is away: lunch and meeting
12:36<@adamg>sighup linode forums
12:36<sighup>adamg: Linode.com Announcements: RFT: "ubd=mmap" experimental config option; Sendmail and Email Related Forum: problems installing postfix; General Discussion: slocate update on gentoo; Linode.com Announcements: Linodes on Host12 restarted; Linode.com Announcements: Linodes on Host6 restarted
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13:34<@caker>hello
13:34<sp_melange>lo
13:35<limecat>hey if i'm trying to change my hostname from "localhost" to something else, do I just need to edit three files: /etc/HOSTNAME, /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig/network and then reboot?
13:35<@tjfontaine>hiya
13:36<@caker>limecat: sounds right .. reboot to test if it works on reboots :)
13:36<limecat>hehe
13:37<schweeb>you only need hosts if you want to be able to ping yourself w/o a DNS lookup :D
13:38<limecat>the /etc/hosts file?
13:38<schweeb>ya.
13:38<limecat>i'll change it just for consistancy sake
13:38<limecat>127.0.0.1 localhost is what I have now. do I just add the name of my linode beside "localhost" or something else?
13:38<schweeb>if you have your search correct in /etc/resolv.conf it's not necessary
13:39<sp_melange>does the linode cluster have any network firewall or is it up to you to do your own ipchains/tables?
13:39<schweeb>ip.ad.dre.ss hostname hostname.fqdn other_aliases_to_host
13:40<@caker>sp_melange: if your at theplanet datacenter, they block a few ports.. Other than that, you maintain your own rules
13:40<@caker>sign .. s/your/you're/
13:40<limecat>caker: what ports does TP block?
13:40<sp_melange>cool
13:40<@caker>limecat: check our faq -- there's a list
13:41<limecat>ok
13:42<sp_melange>is the ip static or dynamic?
13:42<@caker>sp_melange: static
13:42<@adamg>but assigned by default via dhcp
13:42<sp_melange>ok
13:42<@caker>sp_melange: static, but assigned via dhcp (statically) :)
13:42<@caker>sp_melange: you can disable dhcp client and set your distro up normally
13:43<limecat>shutdown -h now is the command to reboot one's linode, right?
13:43<sp_melange>so if there was a need/want to change it in the future, it would be no prob for sysadmin to change?
13:43<@caker>sp_melange: change the IP?
13:43<sp_melange>yea
13:43<EFudd>tp blocks stuff? :)
13:43<schweeb>not much
13:44<@caker>sp_melange: you can only change it to one of the IPs we'd provide you, but .. yes
13:44<@adamg>limecat: that will shutdown the linode not reboot it
13:44<EFudd>oh it was like.. er.. ms protocols and something iirc
13:44<sp_melange>ok, yes that answers my question
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13:44<schweeb>limecat: just use the support console
13:44<limecat>well yes
13:44<EFudd>wtf do they have afs3 blcoked !
13:44<EFudd>not that i use it.. but still :)
13:44<sp_melange>caker: about how many users are there?
13:45<sp_melange>total linodes that is
13:45<@caker>sp_melange: a few hundred
13:45<sp_melange>wow
13:46<@adamg>caker how are the new hosts going
13:46<@caker>adamg: just ordered the needed console adapters, be here tomorrow
13:46<@adamg>what are these ones destined to be
13:47<sp_melange>is it really feasible to run a simple apache/tomcat setup on only 64MB of ram?
13:47<@caker>adamg: hmm .. probably l64 and l96
13:47<@caker>sp_melange: yes :)
13:47<sp_melange>well, i guess i'll try and find out
13:48<@adamg>these going to he
13:48<sp_melange>i used to run slackware on like 16MB of ram, but that was the old days
13:48<@caker>adamg: yeah, ordering one more rack for the next 8 machines (host15-22)
13:49<@caker>sp_melange: I have a good number of clients running apache/tomcat/etc on Linode 64s
13:49<@adamg>any plans to put more at tp
13:49<sp_melange>ok, thanks for the confidence boost
13:49<@caker>cablewholesale.com++
13:50<@caker>adamg: I'd not sure .. honestly, I wouldn't mind to
13:51<@inkblot>i like host5
13:51<@inkblot>it's a nice quiet host
13:52<@inkblot>the one-way residential street of linode city
13:52<@caker>heh
13:52<@caker>inkblot: your debian uml bug post made it to uml-devel today
13:52<@adamg>well if things go to plan I am going to need another node at another dc
13:52<@inkblot>r\xF6k
13:53<@caker>adamg: a few slots usually are open at both dcs .. so lemme know :)
13:53<@adamg>probably wont be for a while
13:53<@adamg>long term plans have about 12 linodes in
13:54<@caker>afk for a bit (errands)
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14:36*jax is back (gone 02:39:26)
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14:57<@caker>back
14:58*mikegrb patiently awaits the arival of linode goodies
14:59<@caker>leaving tomrrow?
14:59<@mikegrb>aye
14:59<@mikegrb>well 3amish wednesady
14:59<@caker>have my cell number from the bottom of the website?
14:59<@mikegrb>be to nashvill about noon local time
14:59<@mikegrb>ahhh didn't
14:59<@mikegrb>will wright it done
14:59<@mikegrb>write even
15:00<@mikegrb>I think our plans changed a bit, not going to stay overnight in nashville
15:00<@caker>cool, just stopping in for lunch, then?
15:00<@mikegrb>aye
15:09<@caker>mikegrb: give me a ring when you're close to town, ok?
15:09<@mikegrb>well hmm
15:10<@mikegrb>we don't have a cell phone
15:10<@mikegrb>:<
15:10<@mikegrb>had a 2-way pager but cancelled that
15:10<@mikegrb>got a 2-m ham radio
15:10<@mikegrb>heh
15:10<@mikegrb>that is what we use in emergencies on trops
15:10<@mikegrb>s/tops/trips/
15:10<@mikegrb>but we can pop in somewhere and ring you up
15:11<@caker>ok .. I'm probaly 15-20 minutes away from Fido
15:12<@mikegrb>okay
15:12<@mikegrb>so just getting to the edge of nashville on 40 should give you enough time if we call then?
15:13<@caker>Right
15:13<@mikegrb>will do then
15:19<heidi>how are we gonna call
15:19<heidi>we have no cell phone
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16:20<Hansm>caker you there?
16:28<Hansm>no cell phone in this world on this time lol.
16:28<Hansm>but nice, too much people are having cell phones.
16:28<@mikegrb>heh
16:28<@mikegrb>well we had two
16:28<@mikegrb>and a 2-way pager
16:28<@mikegrb>I'm seriously concidering re-activating the 2-way pager
16:29<Hansm>cell phones sucks man.
16:29<@mikegrb>ham radio handles most needs in a city
16:29<Hansm>i did use it in australlie with a plan from my country
16:29<Hansm>so thats easy
16:29<Hansm>but its still expensive
16:29<@ian_lowrey>haha. douglas anthony all stars
16:29<Hansm>are you clients of linode or just general friends of the owner?
16:30<@ian_lowrey>one and/or the other :D
16:30<@mikegrb>clients
16:30<Hansm>aah same as me.
16:30<@mikegrb>heh
16:30<Hansm>its a good company.
16:31<@mikegrb>yes
16:32<EFudd> /t http://forever.broked.net/logd
16:33<Hansm>how is the uptime of LINODE?
16:34<@ian_lowrey>does linode still hold the record for longest uptime for a UML process?
16:34<@ian_lowrey>unoffically, of course :P
16:35<@mikegrb>perhaps
16:37<EFudd>You regenerate for 1 health.
16:37<EFudd>You try to hit Fabianist Youth Member but are RIPOSTED for 4 points of damage!
16:37<EFudd>You have been slain by Fabianist Youth Member!!!
16:37<EFudd>All gold on hand has been lost!
16:37<EFudd>10% of experience has been lost!
16:37<EFudd>You may begin fighting again tomorrow.
16:37<EFudd>:/
16:38<@mikegrb>pwahahah
16:38<EFudd>evel: Undead
16:38<EFudd>Start of round:
16:38<EFudd>Demoniac Knight's Soulpoints: 31
16:38<EFudd>YOUR Soulpoints: 43
16:38<EFudd>You hit Demoniac Knight for 4 points of damage!
16:38<EFudd>Demoniac Knight tries to hit you but MISSES!
16:38<EFudd>End of Round:
16:38<EFudd>Demoniac Knight's Soulpoints: 27
16:38<EFudd>YOUR Soulpoints: 43
16:38<EFudd>.... since i'm dead, I can fight the dead !
16:39<@mikegrb>heh
16:39<@mikegrb>nice
16:39<EFudd>this is muy badass php work
16:39<EFudd>:)
16:43<EFudd>You hit SCO Lawyer for 4 points of damage!
16:43<EFudd>SCO Lawyer tries to hit you but you RIPOSTE for 2 points of damage!
16:43<EFudd>There's one lawyer who'll never trouble you again!
16:43<EFudd>You have tormented SCO Lawyer!
16:43<EFudd>You receive 12 favor with Ramius!
16:44<@mikegrb>:)
16:47<jax>sighup linode forums
16:47<sighup>jax: Linode.com Announcements: RFT: "ubd=mmap" experimental config option; /dev/random: Seeking new partner(s); Sendmail and Email Related Forum: problems installing postfix; General Discussion: slocate update on gentoo; Linode.com Announcements: Linodes on Host12 restarted
16:50<@mikegrb>You have been haunted by Farmboy Efudd, as a result, you lose a forest fight!
16:51<@mikegrb>bish!
16:55<EFudd>!!
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17:00<@mikegrb>You storm through the doors of Castle Slaag slaying the guards and anybody else who gets in your way. Finally you open what looks like a likely door and spy a well furnished chamber.
17:00<@mikegrb>The chamber holds a young, beautiful, and grateful occupant.
17:00<@mikegrb>"Oh, you came!" she beams. "Hero, how can I ever thank you?"
17:00<@mikegrb>After a few hours in each others arms, you leave the princess' side and go on your way, but not without a small token of her appreciation.
17:00<@mikegrb>She showed you things you never dreamed of.
17:00<@mikegrb>pwahaha
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17:08<@caker>hello
17:09*adamg needs an extra 100 hours in a day
17:09<@mikegrb>You have encountered Crazy Chihuahua which lunges at you with Fast food cravings!
17:09<@mikegrb>heheheh
17:10<@tjfontaine>boy I didn't miss this campus
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17:14<jax>campus was much better when the students weren't here
17:14<@tjfontaine>aye
17:20*EFudd goes to shoot pool
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18:17<dreadbeat>y0 y0
18:17<dreadbeat>sup linoders
18:18<@caker>hello
18:18<@adamg>nite all
18:18<dreadbeat>how ya doing chris ?
18:18<@caker>nite adam
18:18<@caker>Pretty good db, yourself
18:18<@caker>?
18:19<dreadbeat>a little run down from lack of sleep, but aside from that just chillin..
18:19*caker checks out slashdot for the day
18:19<dreadbeat>fairly boring news today ;P
18:19<dreadbeat>you have any deals with ensim
18:19<dreadbeat>or anyother packages of that level
18:20<@caker>no .. I don't have a deal with them (they wanted me to go to "training" some place!)
18:20<dreadbeat>dayamn :)
18:20<@caker>I could get DirectAdmin license :)
18:20<dreadbeat>yah.. you said that before
18:20<@caker>hehe
18:20<dreadbeat>i like ensim though ;P
18:20<dreadbeat>but ya know.. money and all
18:20<dreadbeat>crazy expensive
18:21<@caker>There are places that will sell individual ensim licenses .. you could install it (read: take over) a redhat install or whatever
18:21<dreadbeat>but on some other server right?
18:21<dreadbeat>:P
18:21<dreadbeat>im quite happy with my linode
18:21<dreadbeat>heh
18:21<@caker>no, in a Linode
18:21<dreadbeat>oh.. really
18:21<@caker>er .. on
18:22<dreadbeat>know any of these places at all?
18:22<@caker>Yes .. external license, then you download the software and install
18:22<@caker>erm, not off hand
18:23<@caker>maybe search @ wht forums?
18:23<dreadbeat>wht forums?
18:23<@caker>webhostingtalk.com
18:23<dreadbeat>ty
18:27<dreadbeat>btw, if you find anything else about any companies offering this service, then shoot me a line
18:31<shakr>many colo and dedi providers sell licenses at discounts
18:31<shakr>(if you are a customer)
18:35<dreadbeat>thats just it
18:35<dreadbeat>i wanna keep on my linode ;P
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19:46<@caker>reco .. suave
19:48<@mikegrb>you rang?
19:48<@mikegrb>oh him
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20:08<@mikegrb>UPS IS HERE :)
20:08<@caker>woohoo!
20:08<@mikegrb>indeed
20:08*caker hands you some scissors
20:08<ElfStone>O.o
20:08<ElfStone>at 8:07 ??
20:08<@mikegrb>funny I'm more excited about this then getting the xterminal
20:08<risto>mikegrb, what did you get?
20:09*mikegrb puts on linode hat
20:09<risto>the unwritten rule: "If you're disclosing you're getting a delivery, you have to disclose the content"
20:10<ElfStone>linode hat O.o
20:10<risto>either don't mention, or tell everything :-)
20:10*mikegrb puts on new linode hat
20:11<ElfStone>lol
20:11<risto>that's it? nothing cool?
20:11<ElfStone>good it is not pron LOL
20:11*caker takes risto off the free linode hat list
20:11<risto>ugh
20:11<@mikegrb>heh
20:11<ElfStone>LOL
20:11<@mikegrb>and a shirt
20:11<ElfStone>I WANT ONE
20:12<risto>whoa, your hat is so cool
20:12<@caker>:)
20:12<@mikegrb>and a spaghetti strap linode shirt for wife :)
20:12<ElfStone>LOL
20:12<risto>yeah put one of those wet shits to my gumar
20:12<risto>shirts rather
20:13<ElfStone>lol
20:13<ElfStone>caker shirts are evil
20:13<ElfStone>tthey never fit me
20:13<ElfStone>save the ones i buy inperson
20:14<ElfStone>=P
20:15<risto>anyways, gotta go home (to see if I got anything in mail)
20:15ristois now known as ristoGONE
20:15ristoGONEis now known as ENOGotsir
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20:29<ElfStone>sighup: linode avail
20:29<sighup>Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 4] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 7] [Linode 192: 1] [Linode 256: 0]
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21:05+klaruz [~klaruz@ip68-13-143-143.om.om.cox.net] joined #linode
21:05<klaruz>hi
21:05<@tjfontaine>hi
21:05<ElfStone>Yo
21:05<@caker>hello
21:05<klaruz>I have a question about routes of out my linode
21:05<ElfStone>caker: wasup?
21:05<@caker>nada
21:06<klaruz>It seems I can't get any email from hotmail
21:06<ElfStone>same
21:06<@caker>looking into adding rsa/dsa auth to Lish
21:06<klaruz>nor can I traceroute to hotmails outbound servers
21:06<ElfStone>due to recent events i am favoring linode more then a rela ded
21:06<ElfStone>*a linode
21:06<schweeb>caker: as in SSHing in w/o a passwd? that would be sweet.
21:06<@caker>schweeb: yup .. add your key via the LPM
21:07<schweeb>sweet.
21:07<klaruz>any ideas?
21:07<klaruz>I can trace lots of other places
21:07<schweeb>I always use the LUSSH script to do it for me :D
21:07<klaruz>I can get mail from everywhere else
21:07<klaruz>mx, reverse, etc, etc are all correct
21:07<@caker>klaruz: are they down perhaps, or a filter?
21:07<klaruz>I can't trace TO them either
21:07<klaruz>traceroute -i eth0:0 lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com
21:07<klaruz>traceroute to www.law9.hotmail.com (64.4.8.250), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
21:07<klaruz> 1 srv03.launchworld.com (64.5.53.209) 2957.049 ms !H 2996.831 ms !H 2999.228 ms !H
21:08<klaruz>eth0 is the same
21:08<@caker>klaruz: what is your netmask on eth0 ?
21:08<@caker>er eth0:0
21:08<klaruz>eth0 is 255.255.255.0
21:08<klaruz>eth0:0 is 255.0.0.0
21:08<@caker>fix that :)
21:09<@caker>klaruz: btw, I think they block traces at a certain point
21:09<klaruz>i can't trace past the linnode
21:09<klaruz>I get 1 hop
21:09<ElfStone>caker: ti prevent ddoses
21:09<klaruz>yah, I figure, most networks do
21:10<ElfStone>klaruz trace elvencloak.homelinux.net
21:10<@caker>klaruz: if you fix the netmask, you should be able to trace a lot farther
21:10<ElfStone>sighup: trace
21:10<sighup>ElfStone: i'm not following you...
21:10<ElfStone>sighup: tracert
21:10<sighup>ElfStone: i'm not following you...
21:10<ElfStone>sighup: tracert elvencloak.homelinux.net
21:10<sighup>ElfStone: i'm not following you...
21:10<klaruz>caker: out of eth0 it doesn't work either
21:10<ElfStone>sighup: trace elvencloak.homelinux.net
21:10<sighup> 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500
21:10<klaruz>just to hotmail
21:10<sighup> 1: gige-g1-0-21.gsr12012.fmt.he.net (64.71.157.17) 1.409ms
21:10<sighup> 2?: reply received 8)
21:10<sighup> Resume: pmtu 1500
21:10<klaruz>everyplace else is fine
21:10<@caker>klaruz: fix both, though and then try
21:10<ElfStone>wtf O.o
21:11<@caker>that's strange
21:11<ElfStone>i know
21:11<ElfStone>waiut
21:11<ElfStone>it is showing in pm
21:11<ElfStone>well
21:11<ElfStone>sighup: trace elvencloak.homelinux.net
21:11<sighup> 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500
21:11<sighup> 1: gige-g1-0-21.gsr12012.fmt.he.net (64.71.157.17) 1.142ms
21:11<sighup> 2: pos5-0.gsr12008.fmt.he.net (216.218.147.25) 1.286ms
21:11<sighup> 3: 64.71.128.181 (64.71.128.181) 1.975ms
21:11<sighup> 4: 712.ge-4-1-1.er10b.sjc2.us.above.net (208.185.182.59) asymm 6 2.637ms
21:11<sighup> 5: so-1-0-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.above.net (64.125.30.97) 2.728ms
21:11<sighup> 6: so-3-0-0.mpr2.sjc7.us.above.net (64.125.30.177) 2.907ms
21:11<sighup> 7: mfn-oc12.sjc.gblx.net (64.125.12.86) 3.028ms
21:11<sighup> 8: pos5-0-2488M.cr2.BOS1.gblx.net (67.17.94.25) asymm 15 77.931ms
21:11<sighup> 9: so7-0-0-622M.ar2.BOS1.gblx.net (67.17.70.174) asymm 14 78.104ms
21:11<sighup>10: Choice-One.s0-1-3-0.ar2.BOS1.gblx.net (64.215.248.2) asymm 14 89.532ms
21:12<ElfStone>well
21:12<ElfStone>it showed more in pm
21:12<ElfStone>went to 14 hops
21:12<ElfStone><sighup> 11: tr-5-1007-bflo-shasta.choiceone.net (64.65.210.190) asymm 14 88.481ms
21:12<ElfStone><sighup> 12: 66.202.101.66 (66.202.101.66) asymm 15 95.615ms
21:12<ElfStone><sighup> 13: 66.202.101.40 (66.202.101.40) asymm 16 94.667ms
21:12<ElfStone><sighup> 14: host-69-48-10-208.roc.choiceone.net (69.48.10.208) asymm 17 653.658ms reached
21:12<ElfStone><sighup> Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 14 back 17
21:17<klaruz>wow strange
21:18<klaruz>I didn't think an unused interface would affect the other one
21:18<klaruz>I guess since it's aliased it did
21:18<klaruz>thanks for your help caker, good catch
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21:21<@mikegrb>heh
21:21<@mikegrb>exact problem I had
21:22<@caker>mikegrb: how's the gear?
21:23<@mikegrb>nice :)
21:23<@caker>cool .. I think cafepress does a nice job
21:23<@mikegrb>indeed
21:24<@mikegrb>uptime seems accurate
21:25<@caker>is it still a few minutes ahead of ircd (as it should be) ?
21:25<@mikegrb>system uptime is about 4 minutes longer then ircd uptime
21:25<@mikegrb>right
21:25<@caker>cool
21:25<@caker>another bug dead :)
21:25<@mikegrb>it had been tailing ircd uptime which is obviously not right
21:29<ElfStone>caker: can i see the store?
21:34<@caker>ElfStone: http://www.cafepress.com/linodestore/
21:34<@caker>make that /linodeshop/
21:35<ElfStone>=)
21:35<ElfStone>what is yoru biggest shirt size?
21:35<@caker>4xl
21:35<ElfStone>4x?
21:35<@caker>yup
21:35*ElfStone looks
21:36<ElfStone>ya sure
21:36<ElfStone>lol
21:36<ElfStone>aj
21:36<ElfStone>ah
21:36<ElfStone>hehe
21:36<@caker>in the t-shirts, at least
21:36<ElfStone>opnlu availble on the white tshirt
21:36<ElfStone>=P
21:36<ElfStone>oh
21:36<ElfStone>lunchbox
21:36<ElfStone>LOL
21:37*ElfStone now needs 30 bcuks
21:38<ElfStone>wthf
21:38<ElfStone>messenger bags O.io
21:38<ElfStone>wrong store
21:38<ElfStone>lol
21:38<ElfStone>http://www.cafeshops.com/invisionpower.7358998
21:40<ElfStone>yall weridos
21:40<ElfStone>i mean the cos
21:40<ElfStone>who think i would spend $30 for something like that
21:40<ElfStone>>.<
21:41*ElfStone still likes
21:41*ElfStone thinks he is waste money
21:47<heidi>caker, you need to have them make items in black or another color as well
21:48<heidi>the tank is very see through
21:48<ElfStone>BLUE!~
21:48<heidi>very thin
21:48<ElfStone>it is suppose to be
21:48<heidi>not for girls
21:48<ElfStone>yea O.o
21:49<ElfStone>well no
21:49<ElfStone>lol
21:49<ElfStone>but he can only proivde what they offer
21:49<heidi>hmm
21:49<heidi>yeah
21:49<ElfStone>buy a t-shirt
21:49<heidi>but for linux they have black
21:49<heidi>same company
21:49<ElfStone>they do O.o
21:49<ElfStone>what link?
21:50<heidi>not sure
21:50<heidi>hold on
21:50<ElfStone>http://www.cafeshops.com/linux/ ?
21:52<ElfStone>damn them
21:52<ElfStone>i need a 4x sweatshirt
21:52<ElfStone>(io only buy big shirts for comfort) =P
21:53<heidi>ok
21:53<heidi>ok
21:53<ElfStone>mikegrb: you wearing your linode cap under your saliors' cap?
21:53<heidi>so maybe not
21:53<ElfStone>to work?
21:53<heidi>no
21:53<ElfStone>O.o
21:53<heidi>and he doesn't wear a sailors cap to work
21:53<heidi>it is a ball cap
21:54<heidi>the dixie cup is only for the dress uniform
21:54<ElfStone>how do you know?
21:54<heidi>cause I am his wife
21:54<ElfStone>oh
21:54<ElfStone>lol
21:54<ElfStone>i worked at the fedreal building
21:54<ElfStone>and the saliors always wore the caps
21:54<heidi>only with their dress uniform
21:54<ElfStone>then they were always in there dress uniforms
21:55<heidi>and only outside
21:55<heidi>probably
21:55<ElfStone>they did the recruiting command and meps
21:55<heidi>some locations require it
21:55<heidi>that would be why
21:55<ElfStone>it is a feduarl building
21:55<ElfStone>i worked with the VA
21:56<heidi>the working white you were with the dixie cup as well
21:56<ElfStone>well
21:56<heidi>but he wears utilities that are only aloud on base
21:56<ElfStone>hrm
21:56<ElfStone>ah
21:56<heidi>allowed
21:56<ElfStone>the kakai
21:56<heidi>no
21:56<ElfStone>what color then
21:56<ElfStone>blue?
21:56<heidi>that is officer and upper enlisted
21:56<heidi>blue
21:56<ElfStone>yea
21:56<ElfStone>i know a SCPO
21:57<ElfStone>he wears kakais
21:57<heidi>yeah
21:57<heidi>they do
21:57<ElfStone>hrm
21:57<ElfStone>i know enlisted has the blues
21:57<ElfStone>and whites
21:57<ElfStone>then there dress
21:57<heidi>but their working blues and dress blues are really black
21:57<heidi>the utilities and jumpers are blue
21:57<ElfStone>ah okay
21:58<ElfStone>i need to do more research
21:58<ElfStone>lol
21:58<heidi>heh
21:58<ElfStone>i am more of a navy geek
21:58<ElfStone>well
21:58<ElfStone>military
21:58<ElfStone>anywyaz
21:58<heidi>well, the utilities are not normally seen by the general public
21:58<heidi>like I said, only allowed on base
21:58<ElfStone>i research military history and customs
21:58<ElfStone>as a hobbie
21:58<heidi>hmm
21:58<@tjfontaine>actually you said aloud first
21:58<heidi>sounds boring
21:58<@tjfontaine>but oh well
21:58<heidi>heh
21:59<heidi>thanks a lot tjfontaine
21:59<ElfStone>lol
21:59<@tjfontaine>yw
21:59<heidi>I was typing to fast
21:59<ElfStone>heidi: not when you have no life =P
21:59<heidi>aloud was wrong
21:59<@tjfontaine>too fast
21:59<heidi>hrm
21:59<heidi>thanks
21:59<ElfStone>lol
21:59<heidi>s/to/too/
21:59<@tjfontaine>:-D
21:59<ElfStone>heidi: try to guess my age =P
21:59<@tjfontaine>14
21:59<ElfStone>noone help her
21:59<ElfStone>=P
21:59<heidi>heh
21:59<heidi>20ish
21:59<@tjfontaine>10
21:59<@tjfontaine>9
21:59<@tjfontaine>5
22:00<@tjfontaine>3
22:00<ElfStone>lol
22:00<ElfStone>no
22:00<ElfStone>no and no
22:00<heidi>19
22:00<@mikegrb>4?
22:00<ElfStone>heidi: lower
22:00<ElfStone>heidi: lower!
22:00<heidi>wow
22:00<heidi>16
22:00<@tjfontaine>14
22:00<heidi>your just a baby
22:00<@tjfontaine>!
22:00<ElfStone>heidi: yea
22:00<heidi>and how did you work at a federal building
22:00<@mikegrb>and you wear xxxxl?
22:00<heidi>heh
22:00<ElfStone>mikegrb: as i said for comfort
22:00<ElfStone>i usslay wear 2x
22:00<heidi>that is some comfort
22:00<@mikegrb>oh so 3x fits
22:01<@mikegrb>oh heh
22:01<ElfStone>heidi: summer intership
22:01<ElfStone>mikegrb: yea
22:01<heidi>hmm
22:01<ElfStone>i worked at the va
22:01<heidi>are you going to join the military when you grow up
22:01<ElfStone>for the past 2 summers
22:01<ElfStone>thougth about it but doubt it
22:01<heidi>hmm
22:01<heidi>join the marines
22:01<ElfStone>hell no
22:02<heidi>heh
22:02<ElfStone>my uncle is a marine
22:02<ElfStone>he just retired after 21 years
22:02<ElfStone>.
22:02<heidi>hmm
22:02<heidi>marines suck
22:02<ElfStone>other uncle
22:02<ElfStone>was a salior
22:02<ElfStone>medic and a seal
22:02<heidi>hmm
22:03<ElfStone>and my grandfather was a medic
22:03<ElfStone>in korea
22:03<heidi>hmm
22:03<heidi>my step dad was in korea
22:03<heidi>and germany
22:03<heidi>and some other places
22:03<ElfStone>yea
22:04<heidi>he was in vietnam war
22:04<ElfStone>he was carrer?
22:04<heidi>but he is retired air force
22:05<ElfStone>hehe
22:05<sjansen>My dad was a navy chopper pilot in Vietnam. His opinion: go air force.
22:05<ElfStone>well i think when i head for college
22:05<ElfStone>i am gonna minor in military history
22:05<heidi>hmm
22:06<heidi>buy linode gear
22:07<heidi>anyone who has not bought any gear and does not plan too, should leave the channel
22:09<Griswald>lol
22:09<Griswald>no thanks
22:09*sjansen has no intention of advertising for free
22:09<heidi>just trying to drum up the business for caker
22:09<sjansen>Well, not on my body anyway.
22:09<heidi>since it is linode gear
22:09<heidi>and he is selling it
22:09<heidi>hmm
22:09<Griswald>then don't try and force it on anyone, man :P
22:10<Griswald>I don't think caker would like that ;p
22:10<Griswald>he might want it to sell, but not like that =]
22:11<heidi>I was kidding
22:11<Griswald>I know =]
22:11<Griswald>but it just didn't really sound like you were ;p
22:13<ElfStone>lol
22:17<heidi>well, I really didn't expect anyone to take that comment seriously
22:17<heidi>besides
22:17<heidi>caker doesn't make money off the items anyway
22:17<heidi>just advertising
22:18<ElfStone>heidi: yea he does
22:18<heidi>no, he sells them at cost
22:18<ElfStone>lol
22:18<ElfStone>i eblibe
22:18<ElfStone>cafeshop charges him a certain price
22:18<ElfStone>then the rises the price
22:18<heidi>and?
22:18<heidi>he still isn't making money
22:19<ElfStone>lol
22:19<ElfStone>the money he makes
22:19<ElfStone>goes to running the store
22:19<ElfStone>instead of him paying to run it
22:19<heidi>you make my head hurt
22:20<ElfStone>lol
22:20<@mikegrb>he doesn't pay to run the store
22:20<@mikegrb>caker spends no money and receives no money from it
22:20<ElfStone>mikegrb: he pays to keep it up
22:21<ElfStone>if he sells anything
22:21<@mikegrb>no he doesn't
22:21<@mikegrb>it is free
22:21<ElfStone>then that money goes to the store cost
22:21<ElfStone>O.o
22:21<@caker>ElfStone: I don't make any money off the site, there's no other way to say that :)
22:21<sjansen>I say caker gets chocolate cream puffs sent to him delay by the store.
22:21<sjansen>s/delay/daily/
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22:22<@mikegrb>hello adamgent
22:22<@mikegrb>bringer of common sense :)
22:22<ElfStone>Open a FREE account.
22:22<ElfStone> Choose from over 50 products.
22:22<ElfStone> Upload your artwork, music or content and design your products.
22:22<ElfStone> Set your retail price over the CafePress.com base price.
22:22<ElfStone> Promote your CafePress.com shop.
22:22<@mikegrb>hhe you said it right there
22:22<ElfStone>lol
22:22<@mikegrb>open a FREE account
22:22<ElfStone>i had to pay lasttime
22:23<@mikegrb>he has the price set at the base price
22:23<@mikegrb>he doesn't have it raised any
22:23<ElfStone>see
22:23<ElfStone>lol
22:23<ElfStone>https://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/shops.aspx
22:23<ElfStone>we had a p[reium site
22:24<ElfStone>lol
22:24<ElfStone>oh wel
22:24<ElfStone>well
22:24<ElfStone>since he didn;t raise the price
22:24<ElfStone>he dun earn money
22:24<ElfStone>oh well
22:24<ElfStone>GraalTShirt-19.99
22:24<ElfStone>LinuxGrayTee-18.99
22:24<ElfStone>IPSGrayTee-19.99
22:24<ElfStone>LinodeTee-16.99
22:24<ElfStone>that is 50 there
22:24<ElfStone>>.<
22:24<ElfStone>75.96
22:24<ElfStone>plus shipping
22:26<ElfStone>that is alot of money
22:27<ElfStone>90.46 includeing shipping
22:33<ElfStone>i have made the room dead
22:33<ElfStone>O.o
22:39<ElfStone>caker?>
22:43-ElfStone [elfstone@host-69-48-10-208.roc.choiceone.net] left #linode (I AM ROOT I CAN DO THAT)
22:43<@tjfontaine>*sigh*
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22:44<ElfStone>sighup g7 ElfStone
22:44<sighup>#G7 stats for ElfStone, the ElfGod -- 89/139 Current Level: 27 | Time to next level: 0 days, 04:57:21 | Status: offline | Item Total: 226 | Total Time Idled: 2 days, 17:39:10
22:45<heidi>well it was peacful for a whole minute
22:45<ElfStone>lol
22:46<ElfStone>i thougth i was haveing a pc errors
22:46<ElfStone>sry if i was annoying
22:46<heidi>I was teasing
22:46<ElfStone>i know =P
22:46<heidi>I am not even in this channel very much
22:46<heidi>well, only monitoring
22:46<ElfStone>lol
22:46<ElfStone>i am so so
22:46<heidi>cause my husband sometimes talks about me and I wanna know what he is saying
22:47<ElfStone>LOL
22:47*ElfStone zips
22:47*ElfStone zips his lips
22:47<ElfStone>=P
22:47<sjansen>heidi: Only good things, only good things.
22:47<heidi>heh
22:47<ElfStone>he doesn;t to my knowlege
22:47<heidi>that is cause he knows I can see what he says
22:47<ElfStone>only think i ever heard was that he had a wife
22:47<ElfStone>what
22:47<ElfStone>thegrebs site?
22:47<heidi>what about it
22:48<ElfStone>lol
22:48<ElfStone>it has all the logs on it
22:48<heidi>do you need the url
22:48<ElfStone>no
22:48<ElfStone>i know it
22:48<ElfStone>thegrebs.com/irc
22:48<ElfStone>=P
22:48<heidi>uh huh
22:48<ElfStone>i hav ebeen trying to get the code off of him for awhile
22:48<heidi>well you mentioned it like maybe you wanted to know what it was
22:49<heidi>I was cornfused
22:49<heidi>he won't give it to anyone
22:49<heidi>unless they are willing to pay a lot of money
22:49<heidi>he spent a lot of time working on it
22:50<ElfStone>yea
22:50<ElfStone>maybe $20 =P
22:50<heidi>no
22:50<ElfStone>200
22:50<ElfStone>2000
22:50<heidi>if he would have done that much work for a company we are talking 500 minimum
22:50<heidi>maybe 1000
22:50<ElfStone>lol
22:51<ElfStone>lol
22:51<sjansen>If you love a thing, let it Free.
22:51<heidi>but he would sell it for 200 with a non-exclusive liscense
22:51<ElfStone>well i have no money to spare
22:51<heidi>then you don't get it
22:51<ElfStone>meainging copyrighst attached
22:52<heidi>meaning he can sell it to others if he so chooses
22:52<ElfStone>oh well
22:52<ElfStone>i want to buy 6 shorts
22:52<ElfStone>shirts offline
22:52<ElfStone>*off online
22:52<ElfStone>a phone
22:52<ElfStone>and get cbalemodem
22:53<ElfStone>so if i bougth it for 2000
22:53<ElfStone>he could not sell it to others
22:53<ElfStone>=P
22:55<heidi>but he said 200
22:56<heidi>not 2000
22:56<ElfStone>lol
22:56<ElfStone>lol
22:56<ElfStone>well i did a example
22:56<heidi>he would sell 2000 with exclusive rights
22:56<ElfStone>lol
22:56<ElfStone>yea
22:56<heidi>except he would still be able to use it himself
22:56<ElfStone>yea
22:56<ElfStone>lol
22:56<ElfStone>well nice meeting you
22:56<ElfStone>i just leave
22:56<heidi>you too
22:56<heidi>k
22:56<ElfStone>i need sleep
22:57<heidi>k
22:57<ElfStone>school in the am
22:57<heidi>k
22:57<ElfStone>damn cat
22:57<heidi>don't want to miss your bedtime
22:57<ElfStone>she will not leave my coat alone
22:57<heidi>your mommy might get mad
22:57<ElfStone>heidi: lol i dun ahev one
22:57<ElfStone>and she is sleeping
22:57<ElfStone>i still have homework to do
22:57<heidi>well you need one at your age
22:57<heidi>do you homework young man
22:57<ElfStone>heidi: LOL
22:57<ElfStone>what your 22ish?
22:58<ElfStone>lol
22:58<heidi>24
22:58<ElfStone>mike is around there
22:58<ElfStone>i think
22:58<ElfStone>O.o
22:58<sjansen>Wow, I'm the old man then.
22:58<ElfStone>lol
22:58<ElfStone>8 years older
22:58<ElfStone>lol
22:58<ElfStone>my mom is 39
22:58<ElfStone>my dad is 42
22:59<heidi>with a college education even
22:59<ElfStone>lol
22:59<heidi>I am a real adult
22:59<ElfStone>=P
22:59<ElfStone>nbever said you were not
22:59<ElfStone>*never
22:59<ElfStone>they dun care if i stay up 24/7
22:59<heidi>heh
22:59<ElfStone>as long as i go to school
22:59<heidi>hmm
22:59<ElfStone>and get good grades (which i am failing to do in physics)
22:59<heidi>well, I was glad I had a bedtime
22:59<heidi>I wish I still had one
23:00<schweeb>ElfStone: phys sucks.
23:00<ElfStone>schweeb: i know
23:00<ElfStone>oh well
23:00<ElfStone>later'
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23:00<heidi>phew
23:00<heidi>he wears me out
23:00<schweeb>haha
23:01<heidi>I guess I can't keep up with teenagers and their ways of thinking anymore
23:01<heidi>I remember being a little like that though
23:01<heidi>not much
23:01<heidi>but a lot of my friends were
23:01<schweeb>he said he was 16?
23:01<heidi>yeah
23:02<schweeb>kids these days
23:02<heidi>yes
23:02*schweeb is 19 :D
23:02<heidi>exhausting really
23:02<heidi>heh
23:02<heidi>you are still a youngin yet
23:02<heidi>heh
23:02<heidi>I met mikegrb when he was 19
23:02<schweeb>college matures you a bit
23:02<heidi>yeah
23:02<heidi>some people
23:02<heidi>not all
23:03<heidi>I think it makes some worse
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23:03<schweeb>well, depends if you approach it as a drunkfest
23:03<heidi>yeah
23:03<heidi>I didn't
23:03<heidi>I have always been too serious
23:03<loki>hello
23:03<heidi>hello
23:03<loki>nice site this is
23:04<schweeb>chicks that have any interest in linux don't usually have much interest in such things :p
23:04<heidi>I don't have much interest in linux
23:04<heidi>only use it because I am married to a geek
23:04<schweeb>ahhh
23:04<heidi>keep in mind I am NOT a geek
23:04<heidi>and never will be
23:04<schweeb>congrats
23:04<@tjfontaine>you *ARE* a geek
23:04<heidi>but there has been a little cross-over in trying to share his interests
23:04<loki>linux rocks
23:05<@tjfontaine>geek by association
23:05<heidi>heh
23:05<heidi>but I am still trying to keep my own identity as a non-geek
23:05<@tjfontaine>you could be greek by association
23:05<@tjfontaine>you choose
23:05<loki>lol
23:05<heidi>I never dated a geek before mikegrb
23:05<loki>well just seeing this java-irc
23:05<heidi>it was all football players and wrestlers
23:06<heidi>even some body builders and cowboys
23:06<heidi>never geeks
23:06<loki>jocks are assholes
23:06<heidi>yes they are
23:06<heidi>I totally agree
23:06<heidi>but a few are sweet
23:06<loki>even tho i go to a geekish school
23:06<heidi>problem is the sweet ones are too clingy
23:06<heidi>heh
23:06<loki>there are still jocks
23:06<heidi>yeah
23:06<schweeb>I go to a tech school as well
23:07<heidi>hmm
23:07<loki>yea
23:07<schweeb>all engineers
23:07<heidi>well, I went to public school
23:07<schweeb>very few women
23:07<loki>same
23:07<loki>well
23:07<heidi>and then a public university
23:07<loki>women out weight us
23:07<heidi>mostly dumb people
23:07<sjansen>If you hang out in #linode you're already well on the path to geekdom. (And we welcome you.)
23:07<loki>in my school
23:07<schweeb>public HS, very private uni
23:07<heidi>heh
23:07<heidi>sjansen: nope
23:07<loki>schweeb: what state?
23:07<heidi>not gonna happen
23:07<@tjfontaine>I wouldn't say 'women outweigh us' to a girls face you're likely to get slapped
23:07<schweeb>loki: MI
23:08<heidi>heh
23:08<loki>ah nm
23:08<loki>well g2g
23:08<heidi>tjfontaine++
23:08<heidi>bye
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23:10<schweeb>I go to a school with a bunch of Mechanical Engineers, it's hard being a Computer Engineer there
23:10<heidi>hmm
23:11<sjansen>Must be tought when they kick bridges in you face.
23:11<sjansen>tough even
23:11<schweeb>automotive engineers
23:12<schweeb>I go to the breeding ground for future GM engineers, if you know where I'm talkin bout, you can have a cookie
23:12<heidi>heh
23:12<heidi>funny
23:14<schweeb>no one's ever heard of it.
23:15<heidi>ever heard of what, GM engineers
23:15<heidi>I thought everyone knew they existed
23:15<schweeb>the school
23:15<heidi>oh
23:15<heidi>well then
23:16<heidi>I don't care enough to have heard of it
23:16<schweeb>hah
23:16<@caker>Purdue?
23:16<heidi>heh
23:16<schweeb>nah
23:16<heidi>I have heard of Purdue
23:16<schweeb>GMI/Kettering
23:16<heidi>hmm
23:16<heidi>I might have heard of it
23:17<heidi>but only cause I knew someone into schools like that
23:17<schweeb>#1 private mech. engineering school
23:18<schweeb>they are mostly known for being a co-op school
23:22<heidi>hmm
23:22<heidi>where is it
23:22<schweeb>Flint MI
23:22<heidi>hmm
23:22<@tjfontaine>micheal moore?
23:22<heidi>?
23:23<@tjfontaine>flint mi
23:23<schweeb>hate michael moore
23:23<heidi>hmm
23:23<@tjfontaine>sometimes yes sometimes no
23:23<heidi>I don't know who he is, so I can not form an opinion at this time
23:23<@tjfontaine>he can be hard to stomach sometimes, and he doesn't fact check all that much
23:23<@tjfontaine>heidi: bowling for columbine
23:23<heidi>oh
23:23<heidi>yeah we watched that
23:24<schweeb>he's the prick who spoke out at that one awards show too
23:24<heidi>hmm
23:24<@tjfontaine>actually
23:24<@tjfontaine>the funny thing
23:24<@tjfontaine>he gave that exact speech the day before at a different awards assembly, and got an ovation for it
23:24<heidi>hmm
23:25<schweeb>what a way to support our troops... regardless of whether you actually support the reason they are there
23:25<@tjfontaine>umm
23:25<@tjfontaine>I support troops, I don't support the falsely elected man who ordered my friends to go over
23:25<@tjfontaine>under false pretenses
23:26<@tjfontaine>with illegitimate no-bid contracts
23:27<@tjfontaine>and I get to complain and question, cause *I* didn't vote for him, *I* am non-violent
23:27<heidi>heh
23:27*schweeb isn't going to argue
23:28*heidi isn't either
23:28*heidi voted for him
23:28<@tjfontaine>just trying to show that theres a line between my troops who defend us, and the man that sends them over there
23:28<heidi>but then my husband hasn't had to go
23:28<@tjfontaine></rant>
23:28<heidi>heh
23:30<heidi>and the man keeps giving us raises
23:30<heidi>heh
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23:30<heidi>anyway
23:30<heidi>night all
23:31<heidi>I am sleepy
23:33<sjansen>Sounds like a good idea. G'night all.
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