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---Logopened Sun Apr 05 00:00:02 2009
---Daychanged Sun Apr 05 2009
00:00<@irgeek>The only thing I've done with GitHub is to tell them their documentation is wrong.
00:00<ryanboyle>I don't think thats a complete reciepe
00:01<@irgeek>charlie-: The ticket update could have been Tom categorizing it or something else. I'm not sure. As for the tab, we're planning some UI changes in the future and I believe that's on the list.
00:01<Peng__>"Next check after: Sun Sep 28 16:55:07 2008" Uh-ohs.
00:03<Peng__>Haha, I have another fs that says Wed Oct 24 23:55:29 2007.
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00:04<][EvIl-BoY][>hi.. any one know a good software for disable the power point files passwords?
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00:04<Peng__>Uh. You're hacking PowerPoint files on your Linode...?
00:05<@irgeek>Wrong channel?
00:05<][EvIl-BoY][>i dont know
00:05<][EvIl-BoY][>where found it?
00:05<][EvIl-BoY][>i search in all fucking google
00:05<][EvIl-BoY][>im gonna kill my computer
00:05<][EvIl-BoY][>i gonna shoot it
00:05<Internat>thats ok
00:05<Internat>were going to laugh at you in the mean time.
00:06<@irgeek>I'm pretty sure this isn't the place you're going to find an answer.
00:06<][EvIl-BoY][>by the way
00:06<][EvIl-BoY][>i can express what i feeling
00:06<][EvIl-BoY][>im better
00:06<][EvIl-BoY][>can i call to 911?
00:06<][EvIl-BoY][>the operator can answer me?
00:07<Internat>*cough* troll *cough*
00:07<][EvIl-BoY][>let me try
00:07<][EvIl-BoY][>do this!
00:07<Peng__>][EvIl-BoY][: I believe you can be arrested for prank calling 911.
00:08<Peng__>So how do you teach linbot stuff?
00:09<@irgeek>Start with /msg linbot commands
00:09<@irgeek>Then try /msg linbot help <some_command_that_looks_interesting>
00:09*Peng__ nods
00:10<@irgeek>But if you abuse the linbot, you will make it angry.
00:10<@irgeek>You could also try /msg linbot version
00:11<@irgeek>Then go Google stuff.
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00:12<@irgeek>Awe. My trigger finger was getting itchy.
00:12<mwalling>!learn peng as Peng likes Fremont Linodes
00:12<linbot>mwalling: The operation succeeded.
00:13<linbot>mwalling: "peng" could be Peng likes Fremont Linodes
00:13<mwalling>!forget peng
00:13<linbot>mwalling: The operation succeeded.
00:13<mwalling>Peng__: ^^
00:13<Peng__>What about alises?
00:13<mwalling>aliases suck :)
00:13*Peng__ googles
00:13<Peng__>Yeah, but aliases are popular here.
00:14<mwalling>SelfishMan and i are on a run to move them to factoids
00:14<mwalling>since aliases require registration, factoids dont
00:15<mwalling>SelfishMan: werent you deleting aliases and making them factoids?
00:15<SelfishMan>I only did that for the download alias that b4 broke
00:15<mwalling>Peng__: ignore my previous comment
00:15<SelfishMan>I just defined the rules
00:15<linbot>SelfishMan: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4
00:15<mwalling>you mean downlaod?
00:16<SelfishMan>no, he originally aliased the command download to downlaod which broke it
00:16<SelfishMan>he got the order backwards
00:16<SelfishMan>I've moved a handful of common stuff to factoids if it makes sense
00:17<SelfishMan>ok, so I guess I've moved more things than I thought
00:17<SelfishMan>!urmom still requires registration
00:17<linbot>SelfishMan: Yo momma's so hairy she donates her facial hair to charity! (0.01247)
00:17<SelfishMan>!avail-all still does too
00:17<linbot>SelfishMan: Availability: Atlanta360-32 Atlanta540-29 Atlanta720-15 Atlanta1080-9 Atlanta1440-7 Atlanta2880-5; Dallas360-36 Dallas540-31 Dallas720-11 Dallas1080-8 Dallas1440-6 Dallas2880-4; Fremont360-31 Fremont540-19 Fremont720-25 Fremont1080-10 Fremont1440-8 Fremont2880-5; Newark360-38 Newark540-21 Newark720-21 Newark1080-16 Newark1440-12 Newark2880-8; (0.17380)
00:18<SelfishMan>Oh, and another useful one
00:18<linbot>More content, less enter! Also, abuse of linbot or mikegrb triggers may result in us laughing at you after you are muted or banned.
00:19<linbot>Peng__: "blocks" could be File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use e.g. `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep Block size ` to check them, and to check or fix them.
00:19<Peng__>How's that?
00:20<SelfishMan>shouldn't 'Block size' be quoted?
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00:20<Peng__>I think linbot ate my quotes.
00:20<Peng__>Yeah, it did.
00:20<SelfishMan>I believe you have to escape them
00:20<linbot>Peng__: "blocks" could be (#1) File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use e.g. `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep Block size ` to check them, and to check or fix them., or (#2) File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use e.g. `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep \"Block size\"` to check them, and (1 more message)
00:20<Peng__>linbot: Not helpful!
00:22*Peng__ gives up.
00:22<aaronyy>you can just escape that space
00:22<Peng__>If anyone knows how to fix the quotes, feel free to do so.
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00:25<checkers>why is 1024 byte blocksize special?
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00:25<mwalling>checkers: it exposes some bug somewhere in linodes stack
00:25<bd_>in xen, even
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00:26<Peng__>If we knew *why*, it'd be a lot easier to narrow it down and fix it.
00:27<Peng__>irgeek: Has the 1k block size bug been seen in the latest stack yet?
00:27<@irgeek>I don't know. We don't see it too often as most people have converted.
00:28<checkers>strange bug
00:29<Peng__>I deleted it.
00:30<somnambulant>Good idea to enable Request Filtering server-wide in litespeed?
00:30<linbot>SelfishMan: "blocks" could be File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep Block size""` to check them, or to check or fix them.
00:30<checkers>somnambulant: I doubt many people use litespeed anymore
00:30<somnambulant>checkers: hmm why not
00:30<Peng__>Why not?
00:31<linbot>SelfishMan: "blocks" could be File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep \"Block size\"` to check them, or to check or fix them.
00:31*SelfishMan mumbles
00:31<checkers>nginx and lighttpd do the same thing, and they're free
00:31<SelfishMan>one more attempt
00:31<checkers>SelfishMan: of course, it may not even be possible at all
00:31<somnambulant>Standard version litespeed is free too
00:31<linbot>SelfishMan: "blocks" could be File systems with a 1024-byte block size may get corrupted. Use `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep 'Block size'` to check them, or to check or fix them.
00:31<SelfishMan>that will work
00:32<Peng__>Cheater. :P
00:32<somnambulant>i rather like litespeed
00:32<meff>i read a thread about a storage service in the works for linode, for backend backups etc..
00:32<meff>is there any updates yet?
00:32<linbot>checkers: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
00:33<Peng__>meff: The backup service beta came out like yesterday.
00:33<checkers>nice one SelfishMan
00:33<SelfishMan>meff: Check the forum
00:33<SelfishMan>checkers: Eh?
00:33<checkers>didn't you just bork the bot? :P
00:34<SelfishMan>checkers: no. The rss stuff from the forums is broken and I think the blog stuff is too
00:34<SelfishMan>!help blog
00:34<linbot>SelfishMan: (blog [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for blog at the RSS feed <>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
00:34<SelfishMan>!blog 3
00:34<linbot>SelfishMan: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
00:35<SelfishMan>linbot needs an upgrade
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00:37<ryanboyle>anybody know how I can move a ruby on rails app from localhost to the server?
00:38<checkers>that works
00:39<ryanboyle>what would the command look like?
00:39<checkers>scp -r ~/code/app/ me@myhost:app/
00:40<ryanboyle>what is the -r for?
00:40<Peng__>man scp
00:40<Peng__>Recursive, I presume.
00:40*Peng__ would use rsync
00:43<ryanboyle>whats rsync
00:44<Peng__>A popular piece of software for synchronizing files between machines.
00:44<Peng__>man rsync!
00:45<ryanboyle>is it easy to work with between my localmachine and the linode?
00:47<mwalling>if your local machine isnt windows
00:47<ryanboyle>its osx leopard
00:52<somnambulant>iptables logs appear to only go to /var/log/kern.log in debian?
00:52<checkers>I'd setup private key auth, and then you can just rerun the above command every time you want to sync and wait a few secs
00:53<ryanboyle>ok so I do apt-get install rsync
00:53<jed>somnambulant: correct
00:53<somnambulant>jed: ty
00:54<jed>i like to --log-prefix them so I can grep them easily
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00:55<jed>i have a KILL chain, which is
00:55<jed>iptables -A KILL -j LOG --log-prefix "Drop pkt: "
00:55<jed>iptables -A KILL -j DROP
00:55<jed>which is really convenient, because them you can just iptables -j KILL
00:57<Junior01>when linode refresh DNS? I change reverse dns past 3hrs
00:57<jed>Junior01: depends on upstream, mine in fremont took about 6
00:58<Junior01>okay! tks
00:58<linbot>Linode's DNS servers reload zones every 15 minutes. If you are still seeing old data after a reload then you probably have the answer cached by your upstream DNS.
00:58<SelfishMan>oh, reverse dns is another story. It varies by DC but typically within 24 hours you will see it propagated
01:01<ryanboyle>how can I fix git clone on ubuntu so I can clone a repo?
01:01<bd_>what's broken?
01:06<ryanboyle>I get the following error
01:06<ryanboyle>fatal: could not create work tree dir 'whs-parking'.
01:06<ryanboyle>bd_: after I run git clone [repo[
01:06<ryanboyle>its Ubuntu OS btw
01:07<@irgeek>Does the user you're running it as have write-permissions there?
01:09<@irgeek>19:39 * irgeek wonders which distro people are going to ask for next
01:09<@irgeek>And the winner is:
01:10<ryanboyle>irgeek: how can I check that
01:10<ryanboyle>irgeek: what if I use sudo
01:10<bd_>ryanboyle: what directory are you in?
01:10<ryanboyle>bd_: var/www
01:10<@irgeek>You shouldn't be sudoing a clone.
01:10<bd_>ryanboyle: and you're just cloning a tree with your web content or something?
01:10<@irgeek>ls -la /var/www
01:10<ryanboyle>I have a github account, private repo
01:11<ryanboyle>I want to git clone that repo to var/www
01:11<@irgeek>What is the user you log in as?
01:11<bd_>ah. in this specific case a sudo git clone might not be an entirely bad idea. Or grant write permission to /var/www to your normal user - but I'd argue that this is effectively elevating your normal user privs
01:11<ryanboyle>the second no-root one I created the other day
01:12<@irgeek>bd_: Using sudo to clone it would mean he'd need to sudo every time he wants to pull.
01:12<bd_>irgeek: He could chown the resulting repository after the initial clone
01:13<@irgeek>Or just create the directory the git clone into it.
01:13<ryanboyle>so I have mkdir whs-parking
01:13<ryanboyle>so if I cd var/www/whs-parking
01:14<ryanboyle>and git clone [repo] will it work inside that?
01:14<ryanboyle>without doing /whs-parking/whs-parking
01:14<@irgeek>ryanboyle: sudo mkdir whs-parking && sudo chown user:group whs-parking && git clone ...
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01:15<ryanboyle>saying invalid user:group
01:15<ryanboyle>whats the default admin group?
01:15<ryanboyle>admin and adm don't work
01:16<bd_>you can see the group's you're in by using the 'id' command
01:16<ryanboyle>says I'm admin
01:17<ryanboyle>nevermind its late
01:17<ryanboyle>forgot to change user-->username :P
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01:36<sinmao>after i enter in the domain name servers from Linode into my domain registrar's website, do i have to worry about reverse dns?
01:37<DephNet[Paul]>sinmao, you can set rDNS in the Linode manager
01:39<sinmao>so do i enter "" or ""
01:39<DephNet[Paul]>sinmao, its up to you
01:40<Peng__>sinmao: Reverse DNS is completely independent from forward DNS.
01:40<DephNet[Paul]>my rDNS on my servers are nnn.domain.tld where nnn is a 3 digit number
01:40<Peng__>sinmao: You can still set up rDNS even if you don't use Linode's DNS service otherwise.
01:40<Peng__>DephNet[Paul]: How boring! :P
01:40<jed>since reverse is a little different
01:41<jed>my reverse is just "", which is convenient for vhosts
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01:41<mrsteveman1>is it possible for a linux machine to serve more than 65,535 connections from port 80 at a time?
01:41<DephNet[Paul]>Peng__, but functional :P as it matches with my server hostnames :P
01:44<MarkJ>wow, how much traffic are you expecting?
01:44<mrsteveman1>aim high :)
01:44<MarkJ>I'd say you need to look at load balacning multiple servers
01:44<mrsteveman1>can the linux kernel even track more than 65,535 connections going through it at a time? (as a router)
01:45<mrsteveman1>i suppose you would get more than that going to multiple backends since the dest ip changes
01:46<mrsteveman1>thanks :)
01:46<Peng__>DephNet[Paul]: I guess you could name 'em after :D
01:47<sinmao>ok, thx guys
01:47<aaronyy>mrsteveman1: do you mean netfilter connection tracker?
01:47<mrsteveman1>well yes
01:48<DephNet[Paul]>Peng__, i did give them *proper* names, like Bob, Arron, etc, but that got a bit annoying after 26 servers
01:48<mrsteveman1>for some reason the thought just popped into my head, if there are only 65,535 ports on each end, and one of them has to be 80, there are only 65,535 simultaneous connections available
01:49<aaronyy>CONNTRACK_MAX = RAMSIZE (in bytes) / 16384 / (x / 32)
01:49<mrsteveman1>i suppose it would take a lot for one server to handle that
01:49<aaronyy>x is 32 or 64
01:50<aaronyy>unless you mean nat as well
01:52*mrsteveman1 is just bored
01:56<sinmao>if i'm setting up a hostname, does it matter if i named it "" or ""?
01:56<bob2>hostname = first portion
01:56<bob2>so '' or 'www'
01:56<aaronyy> or www
01:56<bob2>really, just give the machine a real hostname
01:56<bob2>and set rdns to match that
01:57<bob2>then add A or CNAME records pointing www. to that IP or name
01:59<Peng__>DephNet[Paul]: Still, no fun.
02:00<DephNet[Paul]>Peng__, what does your naming scheme look like then
02:00<Peng__>DephNet[Paul]: You imply I have enough computers for a "scheme".
02:00<jed>tool albums
02:00<jed>by far, the best
02:00<DephNet[Paul]>Peng__, good point
02:01<jed>i follow a scheme and i have like, two :D
02:01<jed>i mean there's always an iphone or xbox or something that wants a name
02:01<DephNet[Paul]>jed, and printers, switches, hubs etc
02:02<Peng__>DephNet[Paul]: My PC is named...*drumroll*..."ubuntu". I named my Linode cheezum because at my shared host I was on a server called pringle.
02:02<jed>DephNet[Paul]: absolutely
02:02<Peng__>If I had any other computers, I'd probably name them after random anime characters whose names begin with "CH" or "CL". Confusing, eh? :)
02:03<DephNet[Paul]>jed, i name pretty much everything in a network, just looking for a more inspiring scheme than nnn.domain.tld
02:03<jed>could do NIN albums
02:03<jed>or succession order of the kings of gondor or something
02:03<Peng__>You could do #linode members. :D
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02:04<DephNet[Paul]>hah, caker.domain.tld
02:04<DephNet[Paul]>Peng__, thats actually a good idea :P or OFTC channels
02:04<Peng__>Mm, that is too.
02:04<jed>every time I'm using some well-known network for testing, and I run across elrond.domain.tld or frodo.domain.tld, I always giggle
02:04<Peng__>What about opers? :D
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02:05<DephNet[Paul]>or IRC clients
02:07<Peng__>Web browsers? Text editors?
02:07<Peng__>Hey, "Chrome" would match my naming scheme!
02:07<DephNet[Paul]>theres only one real text editor, Vi
02:07*DephNet[Paul] runs
02:08<jed>if only i could run kate on win7
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02:10<Peng__>I'm not the only person who runs Kate?
02:10<somnambulant>editra works pretty nicely on windows
02:10<morsing>jed: How's your weekend going? Any fun plans?
02:13<Peng__>Oh, ChatZilla matches too!
02:13<Peng__>Of course, naming your computers after software becomes a problem if you ever want to make a website *about* that software...
02:14<jed>morsing: sublime just came on pandora and I just finished a fat ... something-or-other so no, no real plans
02:15<morsing>jed: Sounds like a proper weekend to me :)
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02:21<Internat>so jed, out of interest, are you happy with the community and support associated with it now?
02:21<jed>getting there
02:21<jed>i'm reluctant to make myself vulnerable, though, you might hurt my feelings
02:21<Internat>not trying to start a troll or anything, just corious that if after everyone calmed down, things got better
02:22<jed>of course it got better
02:22<jed>i just started something stupid
02:22<Internat>everyone has good and bad days :)
02:23*Internat doesnt think he has the balmer peak at the right spot to start coding.
02:24<atourino>moar beer or less beer?
02:25<Internat>need moar
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02:29<DephNet[Paul]>atourino, do you really need to ask that question? moar obviously
02:30<atourino>just making sure... wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt :D
02:30*Internat be's careful not to drink and root ;)
02:31<DephNet[Paul]>Internat, been there done that, not i dont drink and SSH at all
02:31<pikapi>if you drink and root, you'll need a rebuild
02:31<Internat>my ssh client needs a sobriety test before it allows sudo
02:32<DephNet[Paul]>pikapi, tell me about it, i did a "rm -rf *" thinking i was in a different directory than i was
02:33<pikapi>DephNet[Paul]: i know that feeling... it's like your heart goes up your throat for a moment while you imagine your client stabbing your vodoo doll over and over again
02:33<pikapi>you'll be sober *real* fast
02:34<DephNet[Paul]>yeah, thankfully there was no real data that had been deployed to the server
02:34<Internat>its funny how quick you do sober up though when you make an epic fuckup
02:35<jed>rm -rf needs a sobriety test
02:35<jed>$ rm -rf oops-symlink/*
02:35<jed>What is 49 + 28?:
02:36<Internat>1 bajillion
02:36<Jerr>same thing as 50+27
02:36<DephNet[Paul]>and 70+7
02:36<Internat>and 77+0
02:37<jed>ITT, math
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02:37<Internat>!calc 24.45 * pi
02:37<linbot>Internat: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37<pikapi>linbot needs to go for math class
02:37<jed>!calc 480 seconds in revolutions of the atom cesium-128
02:37<linbot>jed: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37<DephNet[Paul]>!calc pi
02:38<linbot>DephNet[Paul]: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38<Internat>the calculator api is borked.
02:38<DephNet[Paul]>!calc 1+1
02:38<linbot>DephNet[Paul]: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38<jed>oh, think i meant -137 there
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02:41<jed>When GoiĆ¢nia.s Instituto Goiano de Radioterapia (IGR)[2] clinic was abandoned in 1985, the caesium-137 based teletherapy equipment was left behind. Over the following years, many squatters and scavengers entered the building. Eventually, on 13 September 1987, two people.Roberto dos Santos and Wagner Mota.came across the radioactive teletherapy head and took it with them in a wheelbarrow. They partly dismantled the equipment, subjecting themselves to external gamma ra
02:41<jed>haha, whoops
02:41<jed>that's one you slap yourself on the forehead for the next day, eh?
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02:44<jed>Devair Alves Ferreira.s brother Ivo scraped dust out of the source, spreading some of it on the floor of his house. His 6-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate while sitting on the floor, absorbing some of the radioactive material (1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy). She was also fascinated by the blue-glow of the powder, applied it to her body and showed it off to her mother. When an international team arrived to treat her, she was confined to an isolated
02:44<jed>christ almighty
02:44<MarkJ>how many extra arms and eyes does she have now?
02:45<Internat>you got cut off a bit there
02:45<Internat>stopped at "external gamma ra"
02:45<Internat>and "to an isolated"
02:45<jed>to an isolated room in the hospital because the hospital staff were afraid to go near her. She died a month later (23 October) and was buried in a lead coffin, sealed with concrete.
02:46<jed>that's screwed
02:50<pikapi>gotta rethink the radioactive spider plan again, i think
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02:56<sinmao>ok, let me get this straight re: DNS, rDNS. so if my domain name is "", i could use "" as rDNS since they're completely independent of each other. so is hostname related to any of these two? i'm obviously confused.
02:57<bob2>but that would be dumb
02:57<jed> would have to resolve to the IP of the machine forward
02:57<bob2>they're seperate but related
02:57<bob2>hostname = 'name the machine knows itself by'
02:58<bob2>forward dns = name the resolves to an IP the machine has
02:58<bob2>reverse dns = name that an IP you have resolves to
02:58<jed>if a server takes your rDNS response and doesn't get an A record (running it forward) that matches the IP it asked for rDNS from, it's usually considered invalid
02:58<bob2>they don't have to be consistent, but that'
02:58<bob2>s dumb
02:58<jed>and people like linode will not let you do it
02:58<sinmao>ok, ic
02:59<bob2>seriously, pick a name for the machine
02:59<bob2>make that the hostname
02:59<jed>hostname doesn't come into things really, but the server has to know what it calls itself in some cases
02:59<bob2>add it to dns in your domain, make it resolve to your ip, then setup reverse dns pointing back at it
03:02<sinmao>ok, much clearer.
03:02<bob2>(this is unrelated to any websites or other names you might want to point at your machine)
03:03<sinmao>ah, ok.
03:05<jed>man, L.A. Woman by the Doors just came on Pandora
03:05<jed>every day that I use this site, I love it more and more
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03:55<solocommand>Howdy, got a quick question about my linode if anyone's around :D
03:55<bob2>best to just ask
03:56<solocommand>Ah cool
03:57<solocommand>I got a notification about Disk I/O usage as I've been uploadin more or less nonstop for a few hours, is there an actual limitation on what I can/should use as far as disk rates? won't be an issue after im done uploadin, just wondering if itll cause an issue while my files are transferring.
03:58<Internat>notifications are generaly for your info only
03:58<Internat>on uml you'll hit the iotoken limits which will slow you down if you cause a problem
03:58<Internat>on xen the disk io is shared more evenly to accomadate everyone
03:59<solocommand>ah ok
03:59<solocommand>cool, thanks :) love the setup so far
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04:01<linbot>New news from forums: do linode provide unlimted SMTP mails in Email/SMTP Related Forum <>
04:09<Peng__>The next post on the forum will be #20,000. :D
04:12<Internat> ;)
04:18<Peng__>Very valuable post there, Internat. :P
04:19<Jerr>2^8 + 10 members in this channel right now
04:20<fo0bar> <-- Peng__
04:20<fo0bar>now there are 3.2 million posts on
04:24<Peng__>fo0bar: Nice. :)
04:28<bob2>attacks from slicehost and linode in the one day!
04:28<linbot>New news from forums: Apache2 virtualhosts config problem in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <>
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04:50<booja>gah, ssh is slow over 3g :|
04:50<morsing>My box is sgtill down :(
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05:03<checkers>booja: anything intereactive generally is, cellular networks still have high latency compared to other net connections
05:03<booja>yeah, still it's better than no net at all
05:03*booja finds the telstra voodoo doll and sticks pins in it
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05:07<erikh>my only real problem with 3g is losing my damn connection when I'm in the car :)
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06:11<Syrogen>just signed up
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06:12<bob2>smallest netsplit eva
06:14<Syrogen>just installed LAMP and ram left 15
06:14<bob2>look at the output of 'free -m', especially the 3rd line
06:15<Syrogen>-/+ ?
06:16<Syrogen>what does the 2nd line means?
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06:18<Syrogen>do u have any tutorial for debian?
06:21<pyrogenix>free -m
06:24<Syrogen>erm, may i know what time is it over there?
06:26<Syrogen>hmmm, will come back at night.
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08:03<Nat_RP>Centos 5.2 --> 5.3, is everyone excluding the kernel?
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08:04<bob2>doesn't matter, linode doesn't use it
08:04<bob2>(unless you use pvgrub)
08:06<Nat_RP>bob2: I'm getting an error downloading the kernel with Yum...that's why I was curious
08:06<Nat_RP>Always something
08:10<bob2>who knows
08:11<Nat_RP>excluded kernel and it seems to be working
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09:05<Yaakov>It would be nice to be able to select the scale of the graphs in the dashboard.
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09:22<libervisco>something's fishy about my linode :S
09:22<libervisco>email works, but web sites don't open..
09:23<libervisco>I restarted mysql and lighttpd, but it didn't help
09:23<libervisco>I was doing nothing, it just started happening
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09:25<fapestniegd>can you telnet to port 80 remotely?
09:25<fapestniegd>and is it listening? "netstat -aunt | grep LISTEN"
09:26<libervisco>telnet says telnet: could not resolve Name or service not known
09:27<libervisco>though.. wait..
09:29<libervisco>ok.. I did the command wrong.. now it said "Connected to" so it appears to be ok
09:30<libervisco>when I did telnet 80
09:30<fapestniegd>looks like a dns issue on your localhost, resloves for me and port 80 is hot
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09:31<fapestniegd>yeah, it's down, but we can rule out any connectivity issues
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09:31<fapestniegd>so it's application
09:31<fapestniegd>look at the lighttpd logs
09:32<fapestniegd>they should give you some indication as to why it's not responding
09:32<fapestniegd>it looks like it's just hanging
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09:40<libervisco>nothing useful.. I checked the log of the most popular site and there are only a few entries on the last one which all seem fine (simple GETs)..
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09:45<fapestniegd>if the logs aren't being useful, you might increase the level of verbosity in them.
09:46<fapestniegd>also, check the database logs and make sure it's listening, and answering requests
09:46<fapestniegd>beyond that, this sounds pretty specific to your site-setup...
09:47<libervisco>I gunzipped the earlier log from the site and it also looks normal..
09:47<libervisco>the sites without database don't work either so that rules out mysql
09:47<libervisco>the weird thing is that I did nothing to change the setup whatsoever and it worked for months..
09:51<libervisco>heh and it's responding to pings hmm
09:52<libervisco>looks like it's lighttpd, I stopped it and the site immediately failed to load, then started it and it tries to load it forever
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09:59<fapestniegd>ping is a connectivity test, we've already ruled connectivity out.
09:59<fapestniegd>increase the verbosity of lighthttpd's logs
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10:01<fapestniegd>there should be a way to increase the debug level, I don't know it offhand (running apache) but most services come with that capability.
10:01<fapestniegd>failing that, there's always "strace"
10:04<libervisco>yeah, looking for the debug option..
10:07<libervisco>alright, debugging enabled
10:09<libervisco>I'm assuming trying to visit a site while watching it's access log or error log (tail -f) should say something
10:10<libervisco>nothing yet, I'll wait for it to time out
10:10<fapestniegd>yeah, that's the typical methodology
10:10<fapestniegd>but if it's hanging on startup, you should probably see it in the logs right away.
10:19<libervisco>nothing yet, but it still didn't timeout
10:27<libervisco>I rebooted and it works O_O
10:28<libervisco>pity I had 135 days uptime :S
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10:36<ryanboyle> how come SSH is denying my root password?
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10:37<Yaakov>ryanboyle: The default is generally not to allow root logins.
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10:37<Yaakov>ryanboyle: Which is a good idea. Use sudo instead.
10:38<ryanboyle>and how would I give a user permission to write to the var/www folder?
10:38<Yaakov>Group membership would be the usual way.
10:38<HoopyCat>ok, there's the right setting on the receiver
10:39<Yaakov>Hello HoopyCat.
10:39<ryanboyle>I mean the chown command?
10:39<HoopyCat>morning, Yaakov. :-)
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10:40*HoopyCat checks "verify that modulated RF is leaving transmitter" off of checklist and pries the S-meter needle off of the right peg
10:40<Yaakov>There are two ways: make the owner of the directory and its contents the user and the group www-data (or whatever the httpd runs as), or, make the group something the user is in and make sure the group can write.
10:40<Yaakov>It depends on the needs.
10:41<libervisco>thanks fapestniegd for your help
10:41<Yaakov>HoopyCat: If you didn't bend the needle it wasn't enough.
10:42<HoopyCat>Yaakov: right now i'm adjusting modulation using the tried-and-true ammeter-on-the-DC-input, voltmeter-on-the-RF-output, and S-meter-on-the-nearby-receiver method
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11:05<fapestniegd>libervisco: np
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11:47<N9VLS>Did I miss something in setting up my Ubuntu 8.10 linode? crontab -e results in crontab not found
11:48<Clorith>aptitude install crontab <-- ?
11:49<Syrogen>how to list all services running?
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11:50<N9VLS>apt-get install cron, whoops
11:50*N9VLS RTFMs.
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12:16<verheesj|sexytime>Hai thar sexies.
12:17<verheesj|sexytime>I need a linux based auto dj. Anyone know of one :D
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12:23<LanceHaig>is there a howto to import a vm of your own making?
12:24<linbot>mwalling: "customhowto" could be
12:24<mwalling>LanceHaig: like that?
12:24<verheesj|sexytime>does anyone know how i can install VLC on my linode?
12:24<LanceHaig>Well I have a xen vm I run here at home
12:24<charlie->is there a program that can generate logs of load on a server?
12:24<charlie->preferrably fairly small
12:24<LanceHaig>and I want to move it to my linode
12:24<mwalling>charlie-: munin?
12:25<mwalling>charlie-: it can plot the loadavg in rrdtool
12:25<mwalling>LanceHaig: did you read the howto?
12:25<charlie->mwalling: if it's just one server, would i install both munin and munin-node?
12:25<LanceHaig>mwalling, is there one?
12:25<mwalling>12:24 < linbot> mwalling: "customhowto" could be
12:25<mwalling>12:24 < mwalling> LanceHaig: like that?
12:26<mwalling>charlie-: yup
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12:26<mwalling>charlie-: one is a cronjob that actually handles the data collection and html generation, one is a small daemon that exports the data
12:27<LanceHaig>mwalling, coooool
12:27<LanceHaig>thanks man
12:29<charlie->mwalling: It didn't seem to install a cronjob
12:29*mwalling shrugs
12:29<mwalling>ask your packager
12:31<charlie->there it goes, it only created images, but it's a start :P
12:31<charlie->oh it's finished, i was just being too impaitient
12:31<verheesj|sexytime>charlie-: are you from the uk?
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12:35<charlie->mwalling: munin is pretty cool, thanks
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12:38<Syrogen>is EngineX = nginx?
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12:40<r3z>s r3z
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12:42<r3z>Bleh sitting in the airport. Waiting on my plane to get here so I can board.
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12:45<BP{k}>r3z: time to hit youtube and watch plane crashes? ;-)
12:46*r3z is not scared to fly..
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12:46<r3z>Although I could let people look over my shoulder lol
12:47<BP{k}>r3z: kethry and I have great fun talking about the stuff I mess up on flightsim games in airplanes. Somehow people start to look disturbed :D
12:47*r3z needs a pilots uniform.
12:48<kethry>r3z: we don't explain its in a flightsim for quite some time though.
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13:35<linbot>New news from forums: Weekly backup replaced the daily in Backup Service Beta <>
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13:53<sinmao>what's the difference between chown chmod? what's chmod equivalent of "chown www-data:www-data"
13:53<Redgore>chown changes ownership, chmod changes permissions
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13:57<somnambulant>is it normal for lshttpd and pear to be in /tmp?
13:58<iggy>I think pear keeps some files in /tmp, but it shouldn't be there itself
13:59<somnambulant>woops they are folders sheesh
14:01<sinmao>i'm reading directions that does the same thing, but one is using chown and another is using chmod
14:01<linbot>Syrogen: "pb" could be HoopyCat saiz to paste your bulk content into the text box on ; after submitting, copy and paste the URL to which you were redirected (e.g. into the channel
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14:02<Syrogen>erm, i enter aptitude install postfix then Yes, then cannot proceed anymore..
14:02<linbot>New news from forums: A few questions in Backup Service Beta <>
14:03<sinmao>chown www-data:www-data /var/www/drupal/sites/default/settings.php
14:03<sinmao>chmod a+w /var/www/drupal/sites/default/settings.php
14:03<sinmao>they do the same thing, right?
14:04<mwalling>chown and chmod only have 1 thing in common: they start with 'ch'
14:04<iggy>they both change things
14:05<sinmao>so what does those two commands do? which one should i use?
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14:05<mwalling>that depends on what you want to do
14:05<repnop>the second one is less secure ;p
14:06<iggy>if the howto you are following does both, then you should do both
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14:06<repnop>if you have the ability to restrict who is able to write, normally that is a better situation.
14:06<sinmao>no, two howtos, each using a different one
14:07<mwalling>howtos suck.
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14:07<iggy>follow 1 howto or the other
14:07<mwalling>esp if you dont know what the commands do
14:08<iggy>he's got you there
14:08<mwalling>for all you know, that howto could open up a back door for the writer to come in and root your system
14:09<mwalling>but you dont know that, because you're blindly following a howto
14:09<iggy>it does, I wrote it
14:09<iggy>you wouldn't believe how many boxes I've r00ted with it
14:09<mwalling>iggy runs conflicker from rooted boxes from howtos
14:10<iggy>it's true, you should see what happens to the conflicker'd boxes next april 1st
14:11<mwalling>the security researchers didnt see where the timebomb date is evaled as 2009 + 1 :)
14:11<somnambulant>is it a good idea to delete /var/tmp and map it to /tmp?
14:11<iggy>it's going to email everyone's web history to their entire address book
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14:11<mwalling>somnambulant: probably not... ask the FHS why
14:11<iggy>so you know...
14:11<Syrogen>erm, i enter aptitude install postfix then Yes, then cannot proceed anymore.. < how to uninstall?
14:11<iggy>watch what pr0n you look at
14:12<somnambulant>mwalling: FHS?
14:12<mwalling>filesystem heiarchy standard
14:13<somnambulant>mwalling: i was just reading on WHT that it's a good idea to prevent DoS, but that was from like 2004
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14:14<Syrogen>why no one answer me..
14:14<mwalling>Syrogen: because your question is vauge and makes no sense
14:19<Syrogen> < my console stuck at here, after i click YES when i install postfix
14:21<SelfishMan>Syrogen: You can't "click". Use tab, the arrow keys, space and enter to navigate and select options
14:21<praetorian><and there is no yes button in your paste!>
14:22<Syrogen>ok, i dint know theres tab
14:22<SelfishMan>praetorian: There was on the previous page
14:25<sinmao>how do i know where my .mysql_history file is located?
14:25<@caker>in ~
14:26<sinmao>how i get there? cd ~
14:26<praetorian>that will work
14:26<@caker>did you try it?
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14:27<sinmao>yeah, but i don't see it
14:27<@caker>ls -a
14:27<sinmao>ok, thx
14:27<sinmao>got it
14:27<@caker>dot files are hidden from normal ls
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14:32<Syrogen>btw, my console is laggy
14:32<@caker>ajaxterm, lish, or ssh into your IP?
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14:35<@caker>you really should be sshing into your IP, btw. It's a much more pleasant experience
14:36<Syrogen>ok, create pw and putty ssh in?
14:36<@caker>create password? your root user already has one
14:36<Syrogen>oh, that's lish
14:37<@caker>you want to ssh as username root directly into your Linode's IP address (not the host it resides on)
14:37<Syrogen>ok, i try soon
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14:40<Syrogen>how to i change lixx-xxx:~# to my name?
14:41<ang>man hostname
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14:44<ryanboyle>irgeek: what was the command I run again for "sudo passenger-install-apache2-module"
14:45<sinmao>with the base linode account, can i host more than one site?
14:46<Syrogen>Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
14:46<rHn>sinmao: yes
14:46<rHn>afaik, there is no "base" account
14:46<sinmao>i meant the cheapest account :)
14:47<rHn>yes you can
14:47<rHn>i host multiple sites
14:47<rHn>and i have the cheapest one also
14:47<sinmao>there's only one ip address. how do i go about hosting more than one site?
14:47<rHn>set the domain name servers to ns1 &
14:47<rHn>add the domain in dns manager inside linode account manager
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14:48<Syrogen>WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! < aptitude r untrusted?
14:49<ryanboyle>irgeek: sudo gem install passenger$ passenger-install-apache2-module [reference] nevermind
14:51<ryanboyle>irgeek: nevermind I'm an idiot
14:52<ryanboyle>irgeek: sudo /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/passenger-install-apache2-module (thats the right command)
14:57<sinmao>if i plan to host multiple sites, should i put them in "/var/www/site1/" or "/usr/site1/"? Which do people usually do?
14:57<rHn> /www/htdocs/site1...siteN
14:57<rHn>thats how i do it anyway
14:57<rHn>but with the domain name instead of siteN
14:58<sinmao>ok. what's htdocs? just a name to indicate it's a website?
14:58<rHn>dunno what it stands for, HyperTextDocuments I assume
14:58<linbot>New news from forums: Warrant canaries in Feature Request/Bug Report <>
14:59<straterra>I use /var/www/FULLYQUALIFIEDDOMAIN
15:01<sinmao>do i have to modify httpd.conf to make the new sites work?
15:01<straterra>most distros ship a vhost config (if you use vhosts)
15:01<straterra>but you will have to make some kind of configuration change
15:01<sinmao>i'm using ubuntu 8.04
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15:07<sinmao>is this a good howto for the vhost config:
15:11<ryanboyle>scp root@ ./ryanboyle isn't copying to my home directory?
15:12<straterra>I don't it?
15:12<straterra>Are you IN your home directory when you run that?
15:13<ryanboyle>I want to do remote --> local machine
15:13<ryanboyle>I want to copy the to anywhere on my mac
15:13<ryanboyle>I am in ~/.ssh currently on the linode
15:13<straterra>Ok..and thats fine..but you're saving the file to whatever directory you execute the command in
15:13<technoid_>sinmao: you might want to check out
15:14<ryanboyle>straterra: so how would I write the command
15:15<Turl>is there any way to make ncftpget to do parallel transfers?
15:16<straterra>ryanboyle: uhm..the command is fine
15:16<sinmao>straterra, what do mean most distros ship a vhost config? where can i find it?
15:16<ryanboyle>but its not copying the file to my local machine
15:17<straterra>sinmao: I mean..they have a seperate config file for vhosts
15:17<straterra>And I don't know where it is in ubuntu, I don't run ubuntu
15:17<straterra>ryanboyle: do you have any errors?
15:17<sinmao>ok, thx
15:17<ryanboyle>I just want to copy the contents of
15:17<straterra>Then why do you think its not copying files to your machine?
15:17<ryanboyle>I look in the folders and nothing appears
15:18<somnambulant>ryanboyle: you could try cyberduck (supports scp) -
15:18<Syrogen>patch -d php-5.2.8 -p1 < nth comes out, or i have to wait?
15:18<straterra>what folders?
15:18<straterra>It's copying the file to whatever directory you're in
15:18<ryanboyle>I just want it to copy to my home directory or the desktop
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15:19<ryanboyle>no I want to scp remote file --> desktop
15:19<somnambulant>like i said you could try cyberduck - it supports scp
15:19<Turl>ryanboyle: cat it, and copy it by hand ;)
15:20<straterra>Then change your command..
15:20<straterra>scp root@ ~/ryanboyle
15:20<somnambulant>Turl: actually he could copy from remote and paste into a local
15:20<straterra>that'll name the file ryanboyle
15:20<ryanboyle>not working
15:21<straterra>How is it not working?
15:21<ryanboyle>I want to transfer the file to my desktop not keep it on the server
15:21<somnambulant>ryanboyle: add a trailing slash to the end of that command
15:21<straterra>scp root@ ~/Desktop/
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15:21<straterra>I told you it was copying the file to the current directory, and calling it ryanboyle with your original command
15:22<ryanboyle>just ran the last command its not copying to the desktop
15:23<straterra>grep ~/Desktop
15:23<straterra>ls -al ~/Desktop/ | grep
15:23<straterra>Run that command
15:24<ryanboyle>did do anything'
15:24<ryanboyle>it worked last night what irgreek type
15:25<straterra>I don't know what he typed
15:25<straterra>Ask him
15:25<ryanboyle>irgeek: you home?
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15:26<ryanboyle>I gotta go to work I'll be back at 9
15:26<ryanboyle>thanks for trying
15:26<somnambulant>ryanboyle: Just for the hell of it try: scp root@ ~/Desktop/
15:26<ryanboyle>hating command line :P
15:27<ryanboyle>cannot stat....
15:27<straterra>I..already told him to run that..
15:27<ryanboyle>"/root/Desktop/: Is a directory
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15:29<somnambulant>hmm- he's the perfect kind of user for cyberduck.. :)
15:29<straterra>wtf is he doint?
15:29<somnambulant>who the hell knows
15:29<straterra>scp is NOT hard
15:30<somnambulant>no but it sounds like he is in great need of a shiny front-end
15:36<Syrogen>configure: error: libjpeg.(a|so) not found.
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15:48<sinmao>hi straterra, i found a file in ubuntu (etc/apache2/sites-enabled) that contain <virtualhost *>...</virtualhost>
15:48<sinmao>is that probably where i should set up my vhosts?
15:49<sinmao>vhost config
15:50<iggy>you should read the docs, ubuntu has a particular way of doing it along with some helper scripts
15:54<Syrogen>configure: error: libjpeg.(a|so) not found. < i already aptitude install libjpeg62-dev
15:54<Syrogen>but still wont works
15:57<civija>Syrogen: what are you compiling and what is the correct error message?
15:58<Syrogen>.#./configure --enable-fastcgi --enable-fpm --with-mcrypt --with-zlib --enable-mbstring --with-openssl --with-mysql --with-mysql-sock --with-gd --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib --enable-gd-native-ttf --without-sqlite --disable-pdo --disable-reflection
16:02<Syrogen>ok done.
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16:07<@tjfontaine>avongauss: did you need something?
16:08-!-mode/#linode [-o tjfontaine] by tjfontaine
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16:10*Yaakov sets mode -forgetting_hes_opped tjfontaine
16:12<HoopyCat>what distro is sticking-it-everywhere-but-where-it-should-go guy running? if it's ubuntu, and he's rollin' GUI-style, Places -> Connect to Server...
16:12<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU TEE JAY
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16:12<tjfontaine>Yaakov: spanks
16:15<HoopyCat>so if tjfontaine had ops, and tjfontaine doesn't work at linode, and the sign in the breakroom says "urmom doesn't work here, plz cleanup after urself," does that mean tjfontaine is urmom?
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16:17<tjfontaine>if a tree falls on tjfontaine, does anyone care?
16:18<HoopyCat>err, i mean, yeah, we'd care a lot and would think of you every day
16:18<Yaakov>tjfontaine: We will all clap with one hand.
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16:19<HoopyCat>sinmao: your nearest exit is three rows behind you (overwing exit in row 12); the next-nearest exit is the front cabin door
16:22<HoopyCat>splenda is weeeeird
16:27<X-LP>that made my head hurt
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16:53<chesty>I've got some traffic that I can't account for, it's going to port 554 rtsp. any idea what that is?
16:53<chesty>I've tried using iptables to block it, but it still goes on
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16:56<chesty>trying to find the root cause as well. surely iptables should be able to stop it, and since it doesn't, it could mean a rootkit
16:56<tjfontaine>only if you tell it to drop existing connections?
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16:57<tjfontaine>if the connection is already active your iptables rule may only be taking effect on new connections
16:57<chesty>i understand, that's not the case
16:57<tjfontaine>then your iptables rule is wrong
16:57<tjfontaine>not to be flippant or anything
16:58<aaronyy>how did you find out there's traffic to 554?
16:58<chesty>tjfontaine: iptabes -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 554 -j DROP
16:58<aaronyy>what's in those packets?
16:59<aaronyy>tcpdump is actually seeing packets before iptables
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16:59<aaronyy>it use libpcap
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17:00<chesty>yes, but the tcp stream is untouched
17:00<chesty>it should break it
17:01<chesty>it's actually iptabes -I INPUT -p tcp --sport 554 -j DROP
17:01<aaronyy>it's tcp rtsp?
17:02<aaronyy>it's source port or dest port?
17:02<aaronyy>can you drop the source ip?
17:02<chesty>remote end is source 554
17:02<aaronyy>you can't see what's on your local end?
17:03<chesty>i tcpkilled 554, now it's moved to 81
17:03<aaronyy>lsof -i or netstat -l?
17:03<chesty>doesn't show it
17:04<aaronyy>that's bad
17:04<chesty>i noes
17:04<aaronyy>can you drop that ip?
17:04<chesty>not with ipdates
17:05<aaronyy>like iptabes -I INPUT -s ip -j DROP
17:05<chesty>I might try null routing it
17:05<chesty>doesn't work
17:05<aaronyy>and iptabes -I OUTPUT -d ip -j DROP?
17:06<aaronyy>and iptables -I FORWARD -j DROP
17:06<chesty>doesn't drop it either
17:06<chesty>tried all three
17:06<aaronyy>tried chkrootkit or hkhunter?
17:08<chesty>ip ro add dev lo didn't do a thing either
17:08<chesty>tried chkrootkit
17:09<linbot>aaronyy: Host not found.
17:09<linbot>mwalling: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4, or (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant jerk
17:10<@mikegrb>mmm cake
17:10<encode>what about the cake rule?
17:11<chesty>rkhunter is clean too
17:15<aaronyy>that ip is belong to a radio station
17:16<chesty>packets are too big to be radio
17:16<aaronyy>if you google that ip
17:17<aaronyy>there's a lot of mms:// link from that ip
17:17<mwalling>did you try dumping the data?
17:17<chesty>it's not text, i know that much. no idea what sort of data it is though
17:18<mwalling>wireshark's manual has the command line to use for tcpdump to drop a capture that it can read
17:18<mwalling>thats what i usually do, since wireshark is a bit easier on the eyes then tcpdump
17:18<chesty>no X
17:18<chesty>is it text too?
17:18<mwalling>i know
17:19<chesty>mireshark has a text version?
17:19<mwalling>no, tcpdump, then scp the dump file to your desktop
17:19<chesty>ah k
17:19<aaronyy>is outgoing packet big too?
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17:21<Syrogen>erm, i install Nginx + PHP + PHP-FPM on lenny, how to check if the max req/sec works?
17:21<chesty>aaronyy: just acka
17:21<aaronyy>ab -n 10000 -c 1000 http://yourwebserver
17:21<aaronyy>you need to install apache for ab though
17:22<@caker>1000 concurrent requests??
17:22<aaronyy>maybe 100
17:22<Syrogen>just install apache2 and start?
17:22<aaronyy>i think so
17:24*mwalling snickers
17:24<Turl>apache2-tools is for ab
17:24*Yaakov makes 1000 conceurrent requests of caker...
17:25<Yaakov>Withouth the spurious "e".
17:25<linbot>SelfishMan: Yo momma's so outta this world she's yo daddy too. (0.04353)
17:26<Yaakov>caker: I do have a really low-priority feature request for dashboard: user selectable scale and span.
17:26<@caker>for what now?
17:27<Yaakov>FOr the graphs.
17:28<mwalling>i have an even easier one: let us have the rra's
17:28<Yaakov>It would be nice to be able to scale in a way that ignored the big spikes so you can see the normal details.
17:28<Yaakov>mwalling: YOU ASK TOO MUCH
17:28<aaronyy>i want flash chart
17:28<mwalling>mine would satisfy aaronyy
17:29<Yaakov>mwalling: You crave power, you are dangerous!
17:29<mwalling>Yaakov: thats what she said
17:29<Yaakov>Anyway, it is very low priority, it would just be nice.
17:32<Syrogen>socket: Too many open files (24)
17:32<aaronyy>increase fd limit
17:34<aaronyy>ulimit -n 10000 i think , not sure
17:34<Syrogen>this is to open socket?
17:35<@caker>Syrogen: don't use -c1000 .. it's not worth it
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17:36<@caker>Syrogen: if anything, set it to twice the number of clients you have your webserver configured to serve silmutaneously
17:36<Syrogen>btw that only improve surf/view speed
17:36<Syrogen>what about interact with db
17:37<@caker>what improved surf speed?
17:37<@caker>#linode: am I missing something?
17:37<Syrogen>cause i wan to use it for fb apps
17:37<@caker>use what?
17:38<Syrogen>nginx for fb app games
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17:39<@caker>there isn't really any reliable way to predict how much an application can serve without actually testing the application :)
17:39<Syrogen>fb apps later, learn how to setup vps first
17:39<@caker>then why are you benchmarking now? :)
17:40<Syrogen>my system still cannot make it
17:40<@caker>cannot make what?
17:40<Syrogen>as in configure vps
17:41<@caker>I'm lost.
17:41*caker switches back to Textmate; uber code awaits
17:41*Yaakov hands caker a special GPS device for navigating userland.
17:42<Syrogen>im still following the howto's, not sure which works well, or am i configuring correctly
17:42<Yaakov>It's no good if you are in the kernel, though.
17:43<@caker>hrm .. I have the need for nested alarm handlers
17:43*caker ponders
17:43<Yaakov>caker: Sounds scary.
17:44<Syrogen>linux is confusing =( this software need that lib and that and this..
17:44<laser`>So use a package manager that resolves it all for you?
17:44<Yaakov>caker: Oh, perl!
17:44<@caker>Syrogen: why are you even messing with that? Just use a package manager
17:44<Yaakov>caker: POE?
17:44<Syrogen>i did
17:45<Turl>Syrogen: then it's all installed :P
17:45<@caker>Syrogen: clearly you installed something from source, right?
17:45<Syrogen>think so
17:45<@caker>you don't know?
17:46<@caker>Have you ever ran something like: ./configure or make on this box?
17:46<@caker>ok, to install what?
17:46<Syrogen>php-fpm and patch php
17:47<Syrogen>i followed this
17:48<Yaakov>caker: Ever use POE?
17:48<@caker>Yaakov: reading it now :)
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17:49<Yaakov>caker: Ah, well, you have easy access to Rocco, the maintainer as well. It is really quite a framework and some very big things have been built from it.
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17:58<aaronyy>Syrogen: newer php-cgi can spawn fast-cgi deamon by itself and listern on a socket, you don't need php-fpm
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18:01<Syrogen>how can i do that?
18:02<aaronyy>php-cgi -b
18:03<Syrogen>im lost.
18:03<Syrogen>need to get library books.
18:04<Syrogen>or which forum/site to frequent? im a beginner
18:05<aaronyy>ubuntu forum probably, i dunno
18:06<Syrogen>aaronyy, what u used linode for?
18:08<aaronyy>not much
18:09<Syrogen>as in web only
18:11*Syrogen morning guys, off to sleep 6:10am
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18:32<verheesj|sexytime>Sexytime with your mother-in-law :D
18:32<klaatu>how do you delete an ip alias? (not just ifconfig eth0:xxx down)
18:32<verheesj|sexytime>I agree to part of that, the "What the" not the "f" part.
18:33<klaatu>ntpd is finding the 1000 test aliases I created and listening on them (they are all down)
18:33<verheesj|sexytime>mike greb is a reverand I believe?
18:34<verheesj|sexytime>Don't worry, be happy :D
18:34<verheesj|sexytime>Awesome-o :D
18:35<verheesj|sexytime>L I N O D E - LOVE IDIOTS NEVER OR DIE EATING
18:35<verheesj|sexytime>Im so smart :D
18:35<Pryon>Perhaps you should refrain from chatting until you sober up
18:36<Yaakov>klaatu: Which distribution?
18:36<verheesj|sexytime>Err... You shouldn't assume i've drank!
18:36<verheesj|sexytime>Pryon, press ALT + F4 :d
18:36<Yaakov>klaatu: Hrm. No help here.
18:36<Pryon>I was being kind
18:37<klaatu>they don't show up in 'ifconfig -a' I thought 'down' would delete an alias.
18:37<verheesj|sexytime>thanks pryon, but i haven't drank.. :D
18:37<Pryon>I'm sorry
18:37-!-mode/#linode [+q *!*verheesj@*] by mikegrb
18:37<Yaakov>klaatu: There is a file, somewhere, probably in /etc, that lists the interfaces for startup.
18:38<Yaakov>klaatu: I woud grep through /etc for it.
18:38<klaatu>Yaakov, this wasn't at startup, they were created by a test tool and deleted when it was finished
18:38<klaatu>but they aren't really gone and ntpd had issues finding >1000 aliases
18:38<Yaakov>Restart networking then.
18:39<klaatu>Yaakov, I'm afraid to, because I could loose access to the machine :-(
18:39<Yaakov>redhat... /etc/init.d/rc.d/networking restart (I think.)
18:39<Yaakov>klaatu: You always have lish.
18:39<klaatu>not a linode
18:40<klaatu>I think the linode folks would be upset by the testing I'm doing :-)
18:40<Yaakov>Not too likely.
18:40<Yaakov>But, I suppose asking for help here might be unwelcome!
18:40<klaatu>I'd imagine they would frown on destructive testing :-)
18:40<HoopyCat>klaatu: depends on what you're destroying. :-)
18:41<klaatu>destroying the app I'm working on... >100k connections all screaming away
18:42<Yaakov>klaatu: You can use as much as you pay for, they won't whine.
18:42<klaatu>not something I want to run on the linode right now
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18:43<groulder>klaatu, you can run it on yaakov's linode then.
18:43<groulder>he's cool with it.
18:43<klaatu>wireshark was showing that my test machine was generating >300pps of tcp keepalives
18:45<HoopyCat>that's a small fraction of what urmom generates
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18:46<HoopyCat>klaatu: ntpd takes the -L option which tells it not to listen on virtual interfaces; that MIGHT do it, depending on how it defines "virtual"
18:47<klaatu>I got brave enough to toggle the interface...
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18:48<HoopyCat>did it work? :-)
18:48<groulder>crisis solved.
18:48<klaatu>the problem was that ntpd was running out of file descriptors (whew is right)
18:48<groulder>everyone calm down
18:49<HoopyCat>yeah, ntpd's interface selection is a little bit on the dangerously-automatic side
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18:50<klaatu>I once killed a customer box that required them to send out a bucket truck to fix it :-(
18:51<Yaakov>< klaatu> I once killed a customer
18:51<klaatu>Yaakov, yeah, so don't fuck with me :-)
18:51<Yaakov>I am not a customer, it turns out.
18:51<klaatu>Why should I stop with customers...
18:52<guinea-pig>we're all customers of this thing called life
18:52<HoopyCat>closest i've come was killing a bit of IP radio gear here and there... i quickly learned NOT to touch ANYTHING radio-related until the snow melted
18:52<klaatu>this was an embedded box on a pole that was badly misconfigured, in the process of fixing it I turned off the watchdog timer
18:53<klaatu>and due to gremlins or somesuch I lost my connection a few seconds later and couldn't get back in
18:53<Yaakov>klaatu: Merely pointing out that unlike defenseless customers I am not a pushover. I am prepared for self-defense.
18:53<klaatu>they had to send some one out to climb the pole and power cycle it...
18:54<HoopyCat>i'm armed and dangerous
18:55<Yaakov>HoopyCat actually has two arms, and if he is anywhere near a soldering iron, he is a danger.
18:55<HoopyCat>i have a Wegmans Shoppers Club card, a driver's license, a library card, a Staples Premier Rewards card, an IEEE membership, and... ah, there it is, the soldering iron
18:55*HoopyCat plugs it in and waits for it to warm up so he can inflict doom upon thee
18:55<klaatu>metcal soldering irons have quite the affinity for klaatu's skin...
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18:58<HoopyCat>i tend to lose track of which hand has the solder, which hand has the iron, and where on my desk the iron holder is
18:59*caker can smell the burning flesh
19:00<klaatu>HoopyCat, my big problem is the lack of 3 arms, one for the iron, one for the tweezers and one for the solder
19:01<HoopyCat>if i could be one thing when i grow up, i'd be a freshman electronics prof. i don't think i'd ever grow tired of the soldering burns, the exploding caps, and the plume of smoke produced when students forget how to measure current with a DMM
19:03<klaatu>I always wanted to be a milspec destructive tester...
19:04<klaatu>what happens when we set a claymore off next to this laptop
19:05<HoopyCat>bin/ Desktop/ Documents/ lib/ porn/ public_html/
19:06<Pryon>mv porn .porn
19:06<HoopyCat>bin/ Desktop/ Documents/ lib/ public_html/
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19:45<SelfishMan>HoopyCat: Measuring current with a DMM? You just connect both leads straight to the source, right? ;-P
19:46<HoopyCat>SelfishMan: be sure to measure the internal resistance of the supply using the ohmmeter setting
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19:51<SelfishMan>HoopyCat: Sweet! Thanks for the tip!
19:53<SelfishMan>as much as I hate to say it, I do remember an instructor trying to show everyone how to test current draw and connecting straight to the source
19:54<SelfishMan>mmmm...magic smoke
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20:00<@irgeek>Um, a DMM in current mode acts as a short. Connecting it across a power source isn't a good idea.
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20:00<@irgeek>What you want to do it hook it up in series with your load.
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20:02<aaronyy>irgeek: you are slow
20:02<jackc>he's right
20:06<SelfishMan>irgeek: Yeah, you're missing the joke
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20:26<Yos>anyone use NoMachine nxserver?
20:27<laser`>Yes, but only as a user
20:27<Yos>im i cant seem to change the ssh port in the config
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20:34<HoopyCat>either allan weiner is 1.5kHz high, or i'm 1.5kHz low
20:35<Nivex>I've created a slave zone in the DNS manager, but I need to know the IPs of the nameservers that will be performing the AXFR
20:35<Nivex>so I can add them to the ACL on the master
20:36<Nivex>this information isn't on the DNS manager page
20:36<Nivex>(or if it is, I'm blind)
20:37<Nivex>all four eh?
20:37<aaronyy>Nivex: yea, there's no special axfr server
20:38<Nivex>cool, thanks.
20:38<Nivex>RFE to whoever maintains the DNS Manager: add that info to the slave config page
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20:51<k>is anyone here knowledgable about freenx?
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20:53<Yos>k, workin on configuring nx myself
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20:54<k>my NX server install hung while reading the configuration. had to end up killing dpkg.
20:55<k>tried removing the half-installed package and it's hanging on NX> 702 Shutting down.
20:55<erikh>kill -9?
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20:55<k>works, but doesn't really fix my half-installed package.
20:56<erikh>well i mean, if shutting down the service is the issue...
20:56<Yos>sudo dpkg-reconfigure freenx
20:56<k>yeah, tried that. hangs.
20:56<Yos>did you already install ssh/
21:00*HoopyCat mumbles
21:00<Yos>which distro u using k?
21:00<HoopyCat>frickin' shortwave stations, changing frequencies...
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21:02<k>ubuntu 8.10
21:04<Yos>i keep having problem with the following : NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
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21:19*SelfishMan clears throat
21:19<linbot>SelfishMan: Yo momma's so dumb, she intentionally the whole thing! (0.02799)
21:19*SelfishMan checks the status of the "upgrade linbot" support ticket
21:20<linbot>guinea-pig: Yo momma's so cheap, she sublets a 360! (0.01055)
21:20<guinea-pig>what are those numbers?
21:20<linbot>guinea-pig: Yo momma's so weird, she walked past a furry convention and they eyed HER suspiciously! (0.01201)
21:20<guinea-pig>that one might be true
21:21<guinea-pig>good thing my mom doesn't know my irc handle
21:21<condate>so you think ;)
21:21<linbot>guinea-pig: Yo momma's so smelly, New Jersey left HER! (0.01121)
21:21-!-seangrove [~seangrove@] has joined #linode
21:21<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
21:21<Battousai>thats a good one
21:21<guinea-pig>that tickles
21:21<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
21:21<SelfishMan>guinea-pig: The time in seconds it took for the entire transaction to happen
21:22<guinea-pig>SelfishMan: only for !urmom though/
21:22<SelfishMan>I was trying to measure the performance of the urmom service because of the complaints
21:22<linbot>SelfishMan: Availability: Atlanta360-28 Atlanta540-25 Atlanta720-14 Atlanta1080-8 Atlanta1440-6 Atlanta2880-4; Dallas360-29 Dallas540-32 Dallas720-8 Dallas1080-8 Dallas1440-6 Dallas2880-4; Fremont360-27 Fremont540-18 Fremont720-25 Fremont1080-9 Fremont1440-7 Fremont2880-5; Newark360-31 Newark540-18 Newark720-21 Newark1080-15 Newark1440-11 Newark2880-8; (0.19564)
21:22<SelfishMan>guinea-pig: Only for the services I publish via linbot
21:22<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
21:22*guinea-pig hugs linbot for not blasting him
21:22<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
21:23<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
21:23*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
21:23<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
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21:35<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
21:43<DephNet[Paul]>they just dont want you to die guinea-pig
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21:56<lantay77>And i'm told I abuse linbot?
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21:59<mwalling>take it up with the powers that be. not us
22:00<lantay77>those powers told me to wait. =p
22:00<lantay77>guinea-pig just spammed the hell out of linbot.
22:00*lantay77 warns him
22:01*lantay77 dosn't want him to end up like me.
22:01<bob2>idiocy on the internet, film at 11
22:02<mwalling>huh, is hosted at someones house
22:02<lantay77>I used to host from my house, before i got my linode.
22:02<lantay77>It sucked.
22:02<lantay77>40/KBs upstream! *yay*
22:03<mwalling>rimshot is at dreamhost, hiyoooo is at bluehost
22:03<mwalling>dramabutton is at bluehost too
22:05<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
22:05<linbot>purrdeta: *click*
22:05<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:05*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:05<lantay77>guinea-pig: stop spamming linbot, your gonna get banned like i am.
22:05*guinea-pig lays in a pool of blood
22:06<SelfishMan>The most important service of all is hosted at Linode
22:06<purrdeta>I used to host out of my house to :)
22:06<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:06*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:06<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:06*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:06<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
22:06<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:06*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:06<SelfishMan>!urmom <-- the most important service of all
22:06<linbot>SelfishMan: Yo momma's so ugly, she got a tattoo and her doctor said her skin condition was clearing up! (0.01068)
22:06<linbot>mwalling: *click*
22:06<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
22:06<linbot>mwalling: *click*
22:06<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
22:06<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:06*atourino bangs yur mom
22:06*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:07<encode>this is going to end badly
22:07<linbot>encode: *click*
22:07<linbot>guinea-pig: *click*
22:07<linbot>mwalling: *click*
22:07<linbot>*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:07*linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:07<encode>doesn't linbot need +o to kick someone?
22:07<guinea-pig>hence the blanks
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22:07<linbot>More content, less enter! Also, abuse of linbot or mikegrb triggers may result in us laughing at you after you are muted or banned.
22:07<linbot>SelfishMan: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4, or (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant jerk
22:08<mwalling>SelfishMan: we know you set #3 yourself :P
22:08<lantay77><-- banned..
22:08<lantay77>and you all spam it more than i did ..
22:08<mwalling>lantay77: do it a couple more times in a row
22:09<mwalling>like 5
22:09<SelfishMan>mwalling: Yep. It was accurate though
22:09<mwalling>i think thats the magic to get it unbanned
22:09<lantay77>mwalling: nah
22:09<encode>SelfishMan: yeh, but every channel needs a resident arrogant jerk
22:09*mwalling still holds the asshole title
22:09<encode>i don't think i have a title
22:09<linbot>SelfishMan: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4, or (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant jerk, or (#4) mwalling is the resident asshole, or (#5) mwalling is the resident a**hole
22:10<linbot>SelfishMan: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4, or (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant jerk, or (#4) mwalling is the resident asshole
22:10<encode>or (#5) at linode, the cak is not a lie
22:10<@mikegrb>mmm cake
22:10<encode>lantay77: do you understand the concept of an ignore?
22:11<encode>lantay77: linbot is ignoring you
22:11<encode>none of its triggers will work for you
22:11<@mikegrb>! people still use slackware?!?!
22:11<lantay77>encode: slackware is a mikegrb trigger, not linbot
22:11<lantay77>mikegrb has a cooldown though
22:11<linbot>More content, less enter! Also, abuse of linbot or mikegrb triggers may result in us laughing at you after you are muted or banned.
22:11<SelfishMan>lantay77: ^^^
22:12<klaatu>comcast is really pissing me off tonight, my bloody modem keeps dropping the connection
22:12<lantay77>SelfishMan: Your spamming it more than I did to get banned..
22:13<lantay77>bellsouth is pissing me off too
22:13<SelfishMan>lantay77: I properly use the service and try to avoid pissing off the rest of the channel (most of the time)
22:13<lantay77>SelfishMan: you guys just spammed !urmom though..
22:13<encode>lantay77: yeah, but we've been here longer
22:14<lantay77>ugh.. =p
22:14<SelfishMan>lantay77: !urmom is not spamming, it is relevant to all conversations when used in moderation
22:14<lantay77>sure.. sure
22:14<lantay77>then why did i get banned for !urmom
22:15<encode>people are irrational. deal with it
22:15<SelfishMan>lantay77: You were ignored because of all of it, not just urmom. We will also stop when there is channel relevant content
22:15<SelfishMan>lantay77: If you have any further questions please consult rule #3
22:16*HoopyCat rationalizes encode
22:16*SelfishMan sets HoopyCat *= i;
22:17*HoopyCat squarely roots SelfishMan's mean
22:18<lantay77>selfishman:whats rule #3
22:19<SelfishMan>22:10 < linbot> SelfishMan: "therules" could be (#1) ignore aaronyy, or (#2) ignore b4, or (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant jerk, or (#4) mwalling is the resident asshole
22:19<lantay77>oh that again...
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22:19*SelfishMan invokes rule 4
22:19<lantay77>im off now.. later
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22:26<ryanboyle>how can I SCP a file from the server to the desktop
22:26<fo0bar>okay, person spam time: I've got a semi-private beta started for a new Firefox extension for Hampr, a personal centralized bookmark manager. beta participants will be bribed, err REWARDED with Finnix chotchkies. let me know if you want in, and I'll /msg you a URL with the instructions
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22:27<ryanboyle>anybody good with SCP this is killing me
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22:28<maher>ryanboyle: try and find the stength to go on living!
22:28<SelfishMan>ryanboyle: scp/winscp
22:28<ryanboyle>SelfishMan: what does that do?
22:28<maher>ryanboyle: are you using windows?
22:28<ryanboyle>no OSX
22:29<SelfishMan>ryanboyle: Oh, I'm sorry
22:29<aaronyy>twitter is down?
22:29<maher>ryanboyle: grab a terminal and just use scp at the prompt...
22:30<SelfishMan>aaronyy: Of course. Scheduled maintenance window to fix all of the unscheduled outage this last week
22:30<r3z>Did I hear someone giving away free stuff?
22:30<ryanboyle>false alarm lolz
22:30<atourino>scp is secure copy on your mac terminal , type: scp server_user@yourserver:/path/to/file /local/path/to/file
22:30<atourino>I *think*
22:30*atourino verifies
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22:32<atourino>man scp for more info
22:32<ryanboyle>atourino: do I have to have another local file created, or will it just move the file I have on the server to local?
22:32<checkers>-C helps too
22:32<ryanboyle>I just want to copy to my local machine
22:32<checkers>spc can create files
22:32<checkers>if you want to recursively copy a directory, you need -r too
22:33<atourino>scp is just like cp
22:33<maher>ryanboyle: scp remote_machine:/path_to_file .
22:33<atourino>it copies
22:33<ryanboyle>to the clipboard or desktop?
22:33<ryanboyle>I don't want it copied on the server, I want it copied SERVER ---> DESKTOP
22:33<ryanboyle>so I can open it and get the stupid key out of it
22:33<maher>ryanboyle: or scp remote_machine:/path_to_file /where_you_want_it_to_go
22:34<ryanboyle>maher: thanks let me try it
22:34<maher>ryanboyle: if it doesn't work paste the line in here and I will stare at it...
22:34<atourino>ryanboyle: mmm... what else do you want? I basically told you the command to copy your file from your server into your local pc?
22:35*atourino goes back to yur mom jokes
22:35<linbot>atourino: Yo momma's so cheap, she sublets a 360! (0.04364)
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22:36<ryanboyle>scp /Users/ryanboyle/
22:36<ryanboyle>not working
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22:37<maher>ryanboyle: try scp remoteusername@ /Users/ryanboyle
22:37<atourino>scp yourserveruser@ /Users/ryanboyle/
22:37<maher>ryanboyle: your user name is probably different on the other machine
22:38<ryanboyle>server its root, Mac is ryanboyle
22:38<ryanboyle>fails again
22:38<atourino>you type the command from your local mac... not from the server...
22:39<atourino>but you should not allow root remote logins
22:40<maher>ryanboyle: try scp root@ /Users/ryanboyle
22:40<ryanboyle>saying no file or directory
22:41<maher>ryanboyle: wrong path to file - use .ssh/ or /root/.ssh/
22:41<ryanboyle>finally got it
22:41<ryanboyle>needed a !
22:41<maher>ryanboyle: that will work too
22:41<ryanboyle>thanks guys
22:41<linbot>atourino: *click*
22:42<atourino>I cant type tonight... :/
22:47<@irgeek>ryanboyle: Also, take better notes when people help you:
22:48<ryanboyle>irgeek: Zeus will strike your server with lightning... yeah I lost my file last night
22:48<ryanboyle>and GitHub throws a tantrum without the keys...
22:49<@irgeek>That would be because GitHub's whole system is based on keys.
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22:57<ryanboyle>Alright my server is being a pain again... any reason why Apache2 isn't following the VirtualHost key and giving me this error?
22:57<ryanboyle>its displaying a folder instead of the rails app
22:58<erikh>ryanboyle: can you show us your config?
22:58<erikh>using passenger, I assume?
22:59<ryanboyle>so I go into cd /etc/apache2/sites-available nano default
23:00<erikh>hmm, shouldn't that be VirtualHost *:80?
23:00<ryanboyle>just did that and nothing different
23:00<ryanboyle>I followed the Ubuntu tutorial
23:00<ryanboyle>it worked earlier
23:00<ryanboyle>could it be something with Passenger?
23:00<erikh>well, it looks right..
23:01<erikh>ryanboyle: no chance you're on rails 2.3 and not the latest passenger?
23:01<ryanboyle>erikh: instead of displaying the app it displays the contents of the folder
23:01<ryanboyle>its rails 2.2.2
23:01<erikh>yeah, I think passenger is broken
23:01<erikh>at least, it's not being loaded.
23:01<ryanboyle>how do I troubleshoot passenger?
23:01<erikh>passenger will tell you if there's a problem with the app
23:01<erikh>well, carefully. but, there should be a passenger file in /etc/apache2/mods-available, can you show me that?
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23:02*caker retires to his chamber
23:03<ryanboyle>ok I just ran, "apt-get install libapache2-mod-passenger"
23:03<ryanboyle>maybe it didn't install earlier
23:03<ryanboyle>looks like its working now since I get the rails error page
23:03<ryanboyle>anyway I can access phpmyadmin from web?
23:03<erikh>install it ? :)
23:04<ryanboyle>haha I installed it, but whats the URL to access it
23:04<ryanboyle>or something
23:04<erikh>oh, not sure on ubuntu
23:04<erikh>hint: look for the directory it's located in, and then make that available via your webserver
23:04<erikh>use `locate`
23:05<ryanboyle>wow odd, it didn't install that earlier either
23:05<ryanboyle>Linode is playing tricks on me...
23:06<ryanboyle>double fail....
23:06<erikh>well, something likely just went sideways during an apt installation
23:06<erikh>happens often enough, you just gotta be paying attention
23:07<erikh>well ok; it sounds like you're resolved for now. yay!
23:07<erikh>since you've overwritten the 'default' site you'll have to create some configuration in your virtualhost to access phpmyadmin
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23:07<erikh>shouldn't be too hard.
23:07<erikh>you'll just have to do some reading on
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23:08<ryanboyle>what if I put back the default, how would I create a specific one for my rails app?
23:08<ryanboyle>and how would the server know to follow it
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23:09<ryanboyle>and now oddly it's going back to displaying the sever, so its like Phusion quits out?
23:09<erikh>it would need to key off a second domain most likely
23:09<ryanboyle>Apache/2.2.9 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-2ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch Server at Port 80 -- whats suhisin patch?
23:10<erikh>say a subdomain, f.e., you could define that has your php tools
23:10<erikh>I've no idea on that patch.
23:10<ryanboyle>Phusion wtf now
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23:12<ryanboyle>maybe passenger and phpmyadmin aren't compadible?
23:12<ryanboyle>or through apt-get
23:12<maher>ryanboyle: the suhosin patch is designed to remove some of the worst insecurites in php
23:12<ryanboyle>because the Passenger apache thing is removing phpmyadmin's patch?
23:13<erikh>they shouldn't conflict
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23:17<ryanboyle>hmm odd its not loading now
23:18<erikh>ryanboyle: passenger?
23:18<ryanboyle>yeah let me check apache2 file for a sec
23:18<ryanboyle>think I have to add the lines back again
23:18<ryanboyle>that might be it
23:18<erikh>yes, removing lines from httpd configuration can have that effect.
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23:20<ryanboyle>alright it spews errors on my app
23:20<ryanboyle>so I know it works :D
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23:27<ryanboyle>any ideas on fixing this
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23:30<erikh>ryanboyle: what's the exception/
23:31<erikh>and it sounds like you're missing a gem
23:31<ryanboyle>yeah is there a way to find what gems are running?
23:31<ryanboyle>or installed
23:31<erikh>gem list --local iirc
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23:34<ryanboyle>is there a way to pinpoint which one is the troublemaker?
23:35<ryanboyle>or specifcally see what the error is
23:35<erikh>yes; it should be on the passenger page.
23:35<ryanboyle>I don't see it though
23:36<erikh>oh; the app exited
23:36<erikh>do you have an exit call somewhere?
23:36<erikh>grep your source
23:37<ryanboyle>what does that mean?
23:37<erikh>grep -l exit * in your rails app
23:38<erikh>are you installing something prepackaged, or are you coding this yourself?
23:38<ryanboyle>its coded myself
23:38<ryanboyle>I git clone from github
23:38<erikh>can I clone it?
23:38<erikh>I can take a peek.
23:38<ryanboyle>its private, but I can public it for a second
23:38<erikh> /msg me the details
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