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00:00<Peng>I wonder whose pi that was.
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00:00<Peng>aternov: Hey, single digits. Congrats. :D
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00:01<@heckman>Peng: wait...wait...I was not the only one who saw that?
00:01<@heckman>I THINK IRC IS DESYNCED!!! \o/
00:02<Daevien>no, just you are
00:02<@heckman>Unless linbot does it on its won....
00:02<@heckman>s/won/own/
00:02<@heckman>Daevien: Who said !pi ?
00:02<Daevien>think if you feed him commands in private, some are still set to go to channel instead of priv
00:02<Daevien>maybe thats one
00:02<@heckman>nope
00:03<Daevien>i dunno, just my thought as i dodge claps of thunder and i assume somewhere otu there, lightning strikes :p
00:03<@heckman>I was in a thundersnow storm earlier this year
00:03<@heckman>It was pretty wild.
00:03<@heckman>Sucked because it was blizzard like conditions. So when lightning struck nearby, the entire world was blue.
00:04<Daevien>we had quite a bit of snow on the ground.. then it got super foggy this afternoon.. then it started raining in the evenignand now crazy thunder rolling. just kinda scared of whats next, our choices in weather are limited :p
00:04<@heckman>meatballs
00:05<Daevien>heh. that reminds me of the temporary manager we have at work (we apparently caused our real one to go looney and get put on stress leave *looks innocent*
00:05<linbot>Obviously, you can tell me to say Point (0.83402172, 0.80259150) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 17653 of 22446 (π ≈ 3.145861177938163 - 0.004268524348370) . But directing an alias to a channel? Hmm...
00:05<Daevien>his name is steve. so i think of cloudy with a chance of meatballs cause of how someone said his name the first day he was there :p
00:06<Getty>cool movie
00:06<Getty>one of those "wtf.... wow awesome" ones
00:06<Getty>:)
00:07<Daevien>mus...tache...
00:10<Peng>Going completely off-topic (as if I'm ever on-topic), got any recommendations for cargo pants in the US? With big pockets? That aren't Velcro crap? I'm not having all that much success...
00:11<hobot>asking linode for fashion advice
00:12<hobot>at least you're asking for something currently unfashionable :)
00:12<Peng>Exactly.
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00:13<Daevien>Peng: um, talman i think it is and maybe someone else seem to like 511tactical.com stuff
00:14<mwalling>mmmm 5.11
00:14<+Praefectus>i have a 5.11 vest
00:14<Daevien>https://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Pants/Tactical-Pants/511-Covert-Cargo-Pant.html somethign like this maybe?
00:14<+Praefectus>probly some other crap too
00:14<@mikegrb>lulz
00:14<+Praefectus>lol
00:14<mwalling>i've got a couple 511 job shirts
00:15<mwalling>and duty pants
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00:15<Daevien>disclaimer: i have nothing 511 but have heard others in here talk abotu them so.. yeah.. it coudl be garbage, your risk :p
00:16<mwalling>its not garbage
00:16<Peng>Daevien: Yeah, those have small pockets. But they're neat anyway. Plus the other 5.11 pants I have have Velcro, like I whined about above.
00:16<Peng>Yes, I've already purchased pants based on #linode's recommendation! Now I want moar.
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00:18<Peng>Sudden silence . . .
00:19<Peng>I'm probably going to wind up getting more of what I already have: fairly ordinary Levi's cargo pants and some 5.11 pants.
00:19<Daevien>mwalling: yeah, i didn't think it was really, buti have no experience with their stuff first hand
00:20<mwalling>Peng: get married to a woman who likes big handbags
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00:20<Daevien>that would be umm, pretty much any?
00:21<mwalling>no, my wife likes little ones
00:21<Peng>If I got two fanny packs, I could hold my sunglasses and a half-liter bottle of water.... :D
00:21<Daevien>so many comments we coudl say there mwalling ....
00:22<+Praefectus>i like the 5.11 vest i got, its comfy even when loaded
00:22<Peng>Vest?
00:22<+Praefectus>tactical vest
00:22<+Praefectus>got it for hunting
00:23<Peng>Ah, hadn't seen those.
00:23<@mikegrb>lulz
00:23<+Praefectus>went a bit overboard on ammo capacity, but oh well lol
00:23<Peng>Also, pricey!
00:24<+Praefectus>i only paid like 70 for mine, but that was a few yearrs back
00:24<Peng>Wait, +v? Who are you? Did I ask that a week ago?
00:24<+Praefectus>70 was just the vest though, i probly spent around 100 more on the molle crap for it
00:25<Daevien>Praefectus = FNG
00:25<+Praefectus>ya, week old fng
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00:26<Peng>My grep -i Praefectus shows someone actually used it as a real word in October. Probably a copy-paste from Wikipedia. :P
00:26<+Praefectus>no clue, ive only been in here since last week
00:26<Peng>Oh, you were only just made +v a little while ago. I'm not crazy.
00:26<Peng>Well, I am, but this doesn't prove it!
00:27<Peng>I am pretty damn forgetful. Need moar sleep. Hmph.
00:28<Peng>I'm starting to write down things I want to learn.
00:28<@mikegrb>lulz
00:28<+Praefectus>lke with a pen on paper? LOL
00:29<Peng>Praefectus: Nah, just in my Text File Of Nonsense.
00:31<Peng>I know I forgot something I wanted to learn a few hours ago, but it wasn't important enough to bother writing down.
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00:38<@mikegrb>lulz
00:38<+Praefectus>lol
00:39<@heckman>I've been known to text myself reminders for later
00:39<@mikegrb>lulz
00:39<@heckman>LOL
00:40<Peng>OTOH, I almost completely remembered all of the off-shoots of AKB48 I was reading about earlier, so I guess I can learn things if I put a little effort into it.
00:40<Peng>(I only forgot how to spell SDN48's name.)
00:40<Peng>[I never said I learned useful things.]
00:41<@heckman>{omg, now I'm in your thoughts...}
00:41<Peng>heckman: As disappointing as you imaged?
00:41<Peng>imagined* ergh
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00:42<@heckman>hahaha
00:42<@heckman>ugh, I played way too much of Call of Duty in the last 72 hours.
00:43<@mikegrb>lulz
00:43<hobot>lol my friend just got his dh account hacked and it sent him this error message
00:43<hobot>http://google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:26347&hl=en-us
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00:43<hobot>3197 served content that resulted in malicious software
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00:44<@heckman>^owned
00:45<@mikegrb>lulz
00:45<Guest1892>lol
00:46<Peng>That said: 75,671 sites total, 3,197 with malware.
00:46<Peng>AS21844 (The Planet AS my node is on): 279,965 sites, 10,898 with malware. Of course, that's not just Linode.
00:47<hobot>well now I feel uninformed
00:47<hobot>well marginally better informed
00:48<Peng>AS15830 (Linode, probably only London): 7,367 sites, 96 with malware.
00:48<Peng>s/malware/malicious software/, if there's a difference.
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00:49<Peng>Argh, that as is Telecity. Some sources call it Linode. It's confusing.
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00:50<Peng>My mistake; I think that was just me misunderstanding stuff.
00:50<hobot>we did it together
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00:52<linbot>New news from forums: MySQL won't come up after upgrade from Debian 5 to 6 in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6665>
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00:58<@heckman>wtf are you doing?
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00:58<amitz>hmm.. interesting. just read that massive amount of vitamin c can act like anti-histamine agent. this probably explains the old adage that vitamin c can cure cold.
00:58<@mikegrb>ruflz
00:58<Praefectus>rofl
00:58<Praefectus>dude i dropped a bottle on my kb so i have no clue wtf happeneed
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00:59<guyinca1>good evenin all. wow lotsa ppl on a friday night
00:59<Daevien>amitz: zinc is suppsoed to help with colds as well
00:59*heckman is overnight support ... so no I don't have a life
00:59<hobot>oh is it friday
01:00<@heckman>Friday Night / Saturday Morning
01:00<@heckman>brb doing things
01:00<amitz>Daevien: let see if there is a partial truth about it, have never heard about that one.
01:00<Daevien>i think so hobot, depending on your timezone and stuff
01:00<hobot>it just turned saturday for me I realize this now
01:00<hobot>like 1 second ago
01:01<amitz>heckman: it's okay if you're not. we aren't either ;-)
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01:01<au>hello, I get this on your nginx guide: http://pastebin.com/c6Xx9kse
01:01<Daevien>http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/zinc-lozenges-cold-remedy
01:02<bob2>maybe you made the init script use dash instead of bash
01:02<bob2>pastebin it
01:03<@heckman>dash is horrible
01:03<Peng>Oh?
01:03<bob2>supervisord is a pretty nice thing to use instead of whatever that script uses
01:03<Peng>dash seems like a pretty neat idea to me.
01:03<bob2>dash is a horrible interactive shell
01:04*Daevien scratches his head. ok, wtf. transmission running on a proxmox server on debian getting better speeds than deluge on ubuntu real server.. and the ubuntu/deluge machien is the router even lol
01:04<Peng>amitz: AIUI zinc *may* help colds *some*. There isn't enough science yet to say.
01:04<Daevien>i only looked at changed cause deluge is pissing me off with it's memory usage so i wanted to see if transmission would be less invasive
01:05<Daevien>peng: it also depends on what you are taking, some dilute the zinc and mix it with stuff that messes it up i think i saw
01:05<guyinca1>I'please comment on this great method of data persistence I think I have. Im setting up standards for a bunch of services. On success when persisting items or preferences to the db, instead of returning just the ID or '1', I will always return the entire object back (serialized again). Always be sure everything is in sync. Is this actually a stupid thing to do. I can't make a decision
01:05<Getty>someone got tipps and tricks about "how to fix your bio rythm"?
01:05<@heckman>rm -rf /
01:06<Getty>heckman: yeah clear.. the recovery of that definitly FIXES it ;)
01:06<@heckman>haha :D
01:06<amitz>Peng: seems so, probably just like vitamin c too, that is still inconclusive, at least too little of effect.
01:07<Praefectus>jamba juice has an awesome drink called the coldbuster
01:07<Praefectus>oj, bananas, peachs, whateverr else they throw in
01:08<Getty>and?
01:08<amitz>oj?
01:08<Getty>does it fixes bio rythm?
01:08<Praefectus>orange juice
01:08<Praefectus>yes it fixes everything
01:08<Praefectus>oj is the cureall
01:09<Getty>yesterday i drunk 1 litre of ananas-oj
01:09<Getty>and what i had? i didnt slept
01:09<guyinca1>can ne1 say if it is worth the trouble to try and match data on client and server at all times
01:10<Getty>so awake around 40 hours, then i slept 4 hours and now i'm awake again
01:10<Getty>and it drives me crazy, wanna sleep
01:10<Praefectus>my favorite is orange-pineapple
01:11<Daevien>guyinca1: that depends totally on YOUR needs, we dont know your needs
01:12<guyinca1>Daevien: sure, that's what I am trying to solve- the problem of always needing something different back from the datastore
01:13<Praefectus>giggity
01:13<guyinca1>if I set everything up to always get the objects back, everything will always be available. Not much extra bandwidth needed to send a longer string.
01:15<guyinca1>I just was hoping someone could say that it was a pipe dream and a stupid idea
01:15<guyinca1>or not
01:15<Praefectus>its a pipe dream and a stupid idea
01:15<Praefectus>its not a pipe dream or a stupid idea
01:16*Praefectus makes people happy
01:16<Defenestrator>The answer really is "it depends". That's waaaay too vague to get a real answer
01:16<guyinca1>:)
01:18<guyinca1>started questioning myself after I start encountering objects with arrays as properties, stuff like that
01:19<Defenestrator>That doesn't sound too terrible
01:19<guyinca1>not too terrible but sometimes it is array of objects
01:20<Defenestrator>I don't think the complexity of the data stored client-side is necessarily a problem
01:20<guyinca1>and the use of python json and simplejson starts to break down
01:21<Defenestrator>OK, in that case it sounds like you do have a problem
01:21<guyinca1>but imagine if instead of writing code for all of these specific things you want to persist, it just will always sync everything and pass it back to you for verification
01:22<Defenestrator>As far as storing vs fetching, it depends on the assumptions you can make
01:22<Defenestrator>for example, if you're fetching everything as needed then the clients will probably need a fairly low-latency connection to the server for it to work well
01:24<Defenestrator>If you're keeping things stored client-side, you have to do more work to ensure things don't get out of sync
01:24<guyinca1>no, the clients can maintain state usually no matter what- html with the localstorage, smartphones with isolated storage of some kind.
01:25<guyinca1>the common need I see with my own and other people's needs is that they just need to get updated occassionally
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01:26<guyinca1>other than of course the initial creation
01:26<guyinca1>so trying to set up this framework which would in an example...
01:27<dr_jkl>hey
01:27<dr_jkl>ext3, ext4, or xfs?
01:27<guyinca1>server never knows what fields are needing to be updated. just update them all since you are writing anyways
01:27<amitz>dr_jkl: depends.
01:27<dr_jkl>on?
01:28<amitz>many things.
01:28<dr_jkl>i wanna set linux up on a laptop. last time i played with ext4 i found it untrustworthy
01:28<guyinca1>dr_jkl large files, small files?
01:28<dr_jkl>which is why i ask
01:28<amitz>the back and forth will be shorter if you can tell us more, usage, etc.
01:29<dr_jkl>occasional-to?oderate use...
01:29<amitz>what do you mean untrustworthy?
01:29<dr_jkl>um a bit of both guy
01:29<amitz>xfs can be cruel on loss of pwer, damage can be more extensive than you think
01:30<dr_jkl>it seemed unfinished, not something to trust with important data
01:30<amitz>performs well on large files. consumes siignificant processing power.
01:30<dr_jkl>ext3 has been good to me but i was wondering if ext4 is 'better'
01:31<amitz>what's the typical usage of your notebook?
01:31<dr_jkl>shell, programming, web use.
01:31<dr_jkl>e-mail.
01:31<guyinca1>ext3 is thought of to be more reliable than ext4
01:32<dr_jkl>my macbook gets the heavier use
01:32<guyinca1>but ext4 has some improvements
01:32<amitz>main computer i assume too. go with ext3 imho
01:32<amitz>s/main/important/
01:32<guyinca1>XFS is kind of more specialized, like for handling larger files
01:33<guyinca1>and larger directories
01:33<@heckman>I've been using ext4 with no issue on a few systems.
01:33<guyinca1>me2
01:33<dr_jkl>yeah this laptop will be for use on the go
01:33<Defenestrator>Just jump straight to BTRFS!
01:34<Defenestrator>(don't do that)
01:34<dr_jkl>i'm scared to bring my macbook places where it might be stolen
01:34<dr_jkl>a $400 laptop going disappear isnt that damning
01:34<amitz>dr_jkl: with ext4, some recovery option/tool may be limited. more point of failure too.
01:34<linbot>New news from forums: Can i host my sites?? in Sales Questions and Answers <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6741>
01:35<amitz>nicer performance though, and more efficient disk usage.
01:35<dr_jkl>ty all
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01:36<Defenestrator>I think the "data loss" issues with ext4 have mostly been a matter of mismatched assumptions
01:37<dr_jkl>actually one more question
01:37<Peng>OTOH, I assume ext4 is designed to be more reliable than ext3. You have to weigh that against its less mature code.
01:38<dr_jkl>home folder encryption. good idea?
01:38<Defenestrator>Peng: actually, the focus for ext4 was more on performance I think
01:38<Peng>Ah...
01:38<Peng>Well I'd hope they would not intentionally make it less reliable!
01:38<Peng>Then again, this is Linux we're talking about.
01:38<Defenestrator>In some ways, you could say they did
01:39<amitz>ext3, in normal situation, was probably deprecated since years ago :-p
01:39<Defenestrator>in that they deliberately picked a tradeoff that allowed better write performance (less frequent commits)
01:40<dr_jkl>yes/no?
01:40<amitz>concerning why ext4 may be considered more reliable, that is because it keeps developing.
01:40<amitz>unlike ext3
01:41<guyinca1>dr_jkl I wouldn't exncrypt entire home folder
01:41<guyinca1>just as needed
01:41<dr_jkl>ty
01:41<Defenestrator>dr_jkl: depends... how much sensitive data do you have in there?
01:42<Defenestrator>like guyinca1 said, probably best to just encrypt a subset of it as needed
01:43<Praefectus>i eats encryption for breakfast
01:44<Praefectus>om nom nom
01:44<Peng>Of course, only encrypting your sensitive data tells The Government what to look for!
01:45<Praefectus>thats what the explosives are for man!
01:45<amitz>urmom eats me for breakfast.
01:45<Praefectus>one wrong pass and KABOOM
01:47<guyinca1>I think you quickly can see user touched files on computer and know where to look
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01:47<amitz>unless you run a backround script that touches everywhere.
01:49<guyinca1>amitz: oooh that would have been a good one for valentines dayy
01:50<guyinca1>vday.pl
01:51<guyinca1>touch -r /
01:51<amitz>i hate valentine day, another day i have to remember and spend my money on -_-
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01:52<sirpengi>I spent $6 on valentines day
01:52<guyinca1>amitz: at least you have someone to spend it on. a girl I asked to go to a movie on valentines day said she wanted to, but that it would be 'wierd' to go on valentines day
01:52<guyinca1>now what does THAT mean
01:52<amitz>sirpengi: how?!
01:53<amitz>guyinca1: assuming the girl is not japanese, she is probably not that into you... hopefully yet :-p
01:55<amitz>the hopefully should be in parenthesis.
01:56<guyinca1>yah I know man, hopefully she does not start getting needy and want to have sexual relations every night. that would suck
01:57<amitz>anyway, a girl i spent my valentine on asked to be returned home earlier. that's more depressing if you think about it ;-)
01:58<guyinca1>ouch
01:59<amitz>guyinca1: heh, about japanese girl i was reffering to white day, where they give chocolate to the guy, and the guy return the chocolate on valentine day.
01:59<amitz>s/girl i/girl, i/
02:00<guyinca1>the same chocolate?
02:00<amitz>so perhaps the girl hasn't given chocolate yet :-p. oh no, different chocolate... i think :-p
02:01<guyinca1>haa no she had not given me a chocolate yet
02:02<amitz>it's okay as long as she isn't japanese, i guess :-p
02:03<guyinca1>nope americano
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02:06<amitz>guyinca1: in what country are you located?
02:06<sirpengi>amitz: I bought my wife some clips with elephants on them
02:06<guyinca1>US man, im a guy in cal
02:07<amitz>sirpengi: damn you, that's cute. she would have been satisfied.
02:07<sirpengi>amitz: I think you have it mixed up. on valentines day it's the women that give the chocolate to the men. then one month later the men have to return the favor on white day
02:08<amitz>guyinca1: ah, okay.
02:08<sirpengi>and korean has a black day a month later
02:08<sirpengi>*korea
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02:08<guyinca1>that is very interesting sirpengi
02:08<amitz>sirpengi: you're probably right, i don't really remember.
02:08<guyinca1>it creates obligation
02:09<sirpengi>where all the single people that didn't get anything eat noodles
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02:09<amitz>sirpengi: is the black day a joke or are you serious?
02:09<megatron27>amitz, hi
02:09<amitz>megatron27: heya
02:10<guyinca1>noodles. sounds fine to me. I think the only reason I care is because other people care.
02:10<guyinca1><about getting a date>
02:10<sirpengi>amitz: I'm serious
02:11<megatron27>what type of noodles
02:11<Praefectus>RAMEN NOODLES!!
02:11<guyinca1>angle hair
02:12<sirpengi>jajangmyeon
02:12<amitz>megatron27: i'd like to ban valentine, but for the reason of not having to deal with obligations that follow :-p
02:12<jeremyb>are all linode disks local (direct attached to node's host) while connected to a running node?
02:12<@heckman>So, because I've been broke the last week I've been eating ramen and sunflower seeds.
02:12<megatron27>amitz, you mean you don't want to do the nasty with the Mrs?
02:12<jeremyb>or on SAN?
02:13<Peng>jeremyb: They're never on SAN.
02:13<Praefectus>local
02:13<@heckman>Today was pay-day and I went to subway and got a sandwich.
02:13<@heckman>I got sick to my stomach because my body had no idea how to handle real food
02:13<Peng>jeremyb: Well, presumably the backup system is, but that's not a "disk".
02:13<Praefectus>wawa sammiches are so much better
02:13<Peng>Subway is real food?
02:13<amitz>megatron27: nasty things havee no schedule.
02:14<@heckman>Peng: Wawa sandwiches are good.
02:14<@heckman>Praefectus: I've gone to wawa so much I've kinda killed their sandwiches. They need more choices of bread.
02:14<amitz>otoh, imagine all the hard work without a return!
02:14<@mikegrb>lulz
02:14<Praefectus>lol
02:14<megatron27>I've grown tired of eating sandwiches....
02:14<megatron27>until someone can figure out a way to make a sandwich spicy
02:15<@heckman>Last summer/early fall I was at WaWa multiple times per week.
02:15<sirpengi>heckman: do they not pay you enough over there?
02:15<megatron27>yeah, when I was at babysitting my dad at the hospital, I would have sandwiches multiple times a day
02:15<@heckman>I finalized my move.
02:15<megatron27>smoke chicken <3
02:16<@heckman>So I had to move, get things for the apartment, etc.
02:16<amitz>megatron27: you ate your dad's food! you.....
02:16<Praefectus>did you get a couch?
02:16<linbot>New news from forums: need a iptable rule to disable BitTorrent in Linux Networking <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6711>
02:16<sirpengi>heckman: do you get a performance bonus for fixing tickets? I can open up a dozen or so
02:16<@heckman>Unfortunately no, so please don't. =(
02:16<sirpengi>oh I'll make em easy
02:16<Peng>sirpengi: Actually, he receives an electric shock whenever a ticket is filed to make sure he sees it.
02:16<megatron27>no, I bought sandwiches at the cafeteria
02:17<amitz>heckman: do you get fined for not responding to tickest quickly enough? ....... :-D
02:17<megatron27>one of the best cafeterias I have ever seen at a hospital
02:17<@heckman>I dunno amitz, open a ticket when you're having a legit issue and we'll see how long it takes for me to get fined for letting it sit there. :P
02:18<Peng>Hospitals are pretty much the only cafeterias I've eaten at. I liked them.
02:18<sirpengi>I can't actually think of any legitimately easy tickets to open
02:18<sirpengi>I can think of plenty of bad ones
02:18<Peng>Open a ticket asking when IPv6 is coming!
02:18<amitz>heckman: uh.... hmmm...uh... hey, you my man! :-p
02:18<Praefectus>"i need another ip for an ssl" <-easy tic
02:18<megatron27>I posted some questions on the linode library
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02:19<sirpengi>Praefectus: but he probably needs to mousey-pointy-clicky on something or run a script for that. I'm looking for something with less effort
02:19<Praefectus>hrm..
02:19<Praefectus>"can i haz sammich?"
02:19<Praefectus>thats a nice easy "No."
02:20<[Krashed]>mr. timothy heckman, sup cunt
02:20<@mikegrb>ruflz
02:20<Praefectus>rofl
02:20<@heckman>How goes it Richard Roby?
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02:21<[Krashed]>you still trying to get with ariel, the 1 you traveled all the way to michigan to see, the 1 you tried to finger 30 minutes of you being there? i got a nice tasty email you might want
02:21<[Krashed]>:)
02:21<[Krashed]>you know tim, you want to start shit with me, http://vxdead.webs.com/Screenshot.png
02:21-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*rasputin@*.MIT.EDU] by heckman
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02:22<Peng>You dated a Disney princess?!
02:22<@heckman>yes
02:22<megatron27>that guy is from MIT?
02:22<Praefectus>SWEET
02:22<@heckman>Nah
02:22<Praefectus>get her to hook me up with jasmine
02:22<@heckman>He's a felon who has too much time on his hands.
02:22<amitz>beastealism!
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02:24<xombie>maybe i should start ddosing linode
02:24<xombie>til you get fired
02:24<xombie>eh tim?
02:24<xombie>you want to fucking threaten to ddos me
02:24-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*krashed@Krashed.net] by heckman
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02:25<xombie>you threaten to ddos me, you claim to take my girl, i know where you work now bitch, i will make you pay, or the company, your choice
02:25<xombie>ddos me tim
02:25-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*krashed@kurrupt-data.org] by heckman
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02:25<Peng>May I suggest a more general ban?
02:26-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*krashed*@*] by heckman
02:26-!-mode/#linode [+b *krashed*!*@*] by heckman
02:26<@heckman>hm..what else
02:26<megatron27>scary messages....
02:27<megatron27>put a ban on MIT.edu and the other domains too
02:27<@heckman>I'm not so sure I want to make it that wide of a ban.
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02:27<dex_>you want to make threats on ddosing, ddos my ipv6 now, or i ddos linode, you want a fucking war, i will bring it to your god damned doorstep
02:27<dex_>ddos me bitch
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02:28<@mikegrb>ruflz
02:28<MJCS>rofl
02:28-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*@*krashed*] by heckman
02:28<MJCS>dumb ass
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02:28<MJCS>i see a gline coming
02:28-!-mode/#linode [+bb *dex_(*!*@* *!*@*xtronic*] by heckman
02:28<sirpengi>hey, the topic changed
02:29<@heckman>Yeah I am bummed I am not going to any
02:29<Praefectus>topic changed yesterday i think
02:29<sirpengi>pycon sounds good
02:29<sirpengi>it's just so far away
02:30<amitz>wait, aspac pycon?
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02:30<headtrip>whats wrong eLement, can't ddos ipv6, dont want your workplace to know your a fucking kiddie? come on you fucking cunt, ddos me, or i start to ddos linode
02:30<headtrip>come on
02:30<headtrip>do it pussy
02:30<headtrip>hit me
02:30<@heckman>You're kind of boring.
02:30-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*headtrip@*.kurrupt-data.org] by heckman
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02:32<amitz>ah, not different pycon.
02:32<amitz>s/not//
02:32<MJCS>might want to ban 173.234.39.252, 173.234.39.252
02:32<MJCS>his ips
02:32<Peng>MJCS: That's the same IP twice.
02:32<@mikegrb>lulz
02:32<MJCS>lol
02:32<MJCS>74.63.119.92
02:32<sirpengi>OR IS IT?
02:32<megatron27>I might help to organize next year's PyCon APAC.
02:33<@heckman>He'll get bored eventually.
02:33<@heckman>He's probably been drinking or something.
02:33<MJCS>i would report him to MIT
02:33<@heckman>Not like he goes there.
02:34<sirpengi>urk, singapore?
02:34<megatron27>this year it's in Singapore
02:34<megatron27>next year it'll be in Malaysia
02:34<megatron27><-- Malaysian
02:34<amitz>[6~[6~meg ow, nice.
02:34<Praefectus><-- pinoy
02:34<megatron27><--- Windows NT 3.5 user
02:35<@heckman>\o/
02:35<sirpengi>that's just about the same distance, and I have the same level of familiarity (none) with the place
02:35<Praefectus><- redhat enterprise 2.1 user
02:35<sirpengi>it's probably further than atlanta
02:36<amitz><- hholding pee while looking for restroom.
02:36<Praefectus>public urination time!
02:36<@heckman>\o/
02:37<@heckman>I would if the township building and the police weren't across the street.
02:37<@mikegrb>ruflz
02:37<Praefectus>rofl
02:37<@heckman>They tend to lurk. I guess the black jeep with PA plates is kinda scary
02:37<Praefectus>well, they see what happened when we let the new yorkers in, god only knows what the pa ppl will do
02:38<@heckman>Dude. Mike was going out to take a smoke, and the cops were out there checking out my car.
02:38<amitz>yay!
02:38<@heckman>They ran the plates and everything
02:38<Praefectus>lmfao
02:38<@heckman>I walked out eating apple sauce in my socks
02:38<Praefectus>wtf
02:39<@mikegrb>lulz
02:39<Praefectus>lol
02:39<@heckman>While he asked my name, and who's name the car was under, and crap.
02:39<megatron27>yeah, I would take cover whenever I see your car in anticipation of a drive by... .
02:39<@heckman>And I ate my apple sauce...
02:40<@heckman>That reminds me of GTA: San Andreas...drive by on a bicycle.
02:40<megatron27>there are some channels where you have to wait to get voice...
02:40<megatron27>so if there's no moderator around, you can't talk
02:40<@heckman>Yep
02:40<megatron27>e.g. #defocus on freenode
02:40<Praefectus>that was random
02:41<Peng>megatron27: While you wait to get voice you quickly learn that it's not worth talking in anyway.
02:41<megatron27>heh
02:41<@mikegrb>lulz
02:41<@heckman>LOl
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02:44<megatron27>finally got voice
02:45<Peng>I just /parted #defocus like an hour ago. Now I'm curious again.
02:45<@mikegrb>lulz
02:45<@heckman>LOL
02:45<@heckman>What is the chan anyway?
02:45<Peng>heckman: Freenode's social channel.
02:45<@heckman>Sounds overly anti-social to moderate it
02:46<Peng>heckman: Everyone gets voiced, just not automatically. Like how Linode activations used to be!
02:46<Peng>Except slower.
02:46<sirpengi>sometimes it's hard to be social when there're too many people
02:46<sirpengi>too much noise
02:46<Peng>#python-offtopic is fun. #defocus...eh. It just didn't interest me.
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03:00<MJCS>wtf
03:00-!-mode/#linode [+R] by heckman
03:01<dr_jkl>okay
03:01<dr_jkl>i have a question, kind of.
03:01<@heckman>Sorry guys
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03:01<dr_jkl>has anyone successfully swapped the left alt and control keys? i'd seriously love to know how.
03:02<dr_jkl>i'm having multi-os aphasia right now, and keep trying to alt+something stuff when i want to do something that linux wants ctrl for
03:05<Peng>dr_jkl: Physically swapping the keys, or just remapping them?
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03:05<Peng>(No, in my case.)
03:05<dr_jkl>just remapping them.
03:05<dr_jkl>i'm trying to do it right now with xmodmap
03:06<dr_jkl>because seriously, i'm so used to my mac that i just... augh!
03:06<dr_jkl>i've even remapped the keys on my work machine
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03:06<megatron27_>I wish duplicity would warn you if you're trying to backup a multiple GB file that you've never backed up before
03:08<amitz>megatron27_: why?
03:08<amitz>space concern?
03:09<megatron27_>yeah
03:09-!-mode/#linode [-R] by heckman
03:09<Kenny>amitz: Just woke up, and noticed you got the japanese white day thing messed up :P
03:10<sirpengi>I already schooled him on it
03:10<Kenny>okay :P
03:10*amitz was humbly schooled ;-)
03:10<Kenny>(valanetines day girls give normal chocolate to guys, feb 14, white day, march 14, guys give chocolate, usually white, back to the girls)
03:11<@heckman>Never heard of that
03:11<sirpengi>and then korean noodles in april
03:11<@mikegrb>lulz
03:11<Kenny>noodles? lol
03:11<Kenny>heckman: Japanese tradition of valentines day
03:12<Kenny>well, taiwan, china and south korea do it too
03:12<sirpengi>although it's seriously a candy company holiday there
03:12<sirpengi>office ladies have to get for all their male co-workers
03:12<sirpengi>and it's not cheap
03:13<Kenny>damn yeah
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03:13<sirpengi>but that's not the weirdest thing that japanese do anyhow
03:13<sirpengi>*that the
03:14<megatron27_>yeah, the Japanese are crazy about evernote
03:15<Kenny>sirpengi: The americans do insane things too :P
03:15<megatron27_>crazy error message @ "AssertionError: time not moving forward at appropriate pace - system clock issues"
03:15<Kenny>They just do DIFFERENT insane things.
03:15<Kenny>megatron27_: Sorry, I may have caused a slight alteration of the time/space continuum everywhere west from my backyard... Sorry 'bout that!
03:16<megatron27_>time don't let it slip away, raise your drinking glass
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03:18<megatron27_>I need to upgrade duplicity to get the fix for that bug - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~duplicity-team/duplicity/0.6-series/revision/653
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03:19-!-mode/#linode [+R] by heckman
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03:19<MJCS>weeeeeeeeee
03:19<megatron27_>what's going on?
03:19<synapt>yeah was just gonna say
03:19<Peng>Christ.
03:20<synapt>a cheesy part/join attack
03:20<@heckman>Gonna sit +R for a few hours guys
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03:20<MJCS>what is +R
03:20<megatron27_>is it that MIT guy again
03:20<MJCS>restricted?
03:20<synapt>registered only
03:20<MJCS>oh
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03:20<@heckman>If you know of anyone who needs in, please let me know via PM
03:20<Peng>Hopefully the bots won't start registering.
03:21<synapt>unlikely
03:21<Peng>It happens.
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03:21<megatron27_>how come it always seems like you're on the version without the bug fix that you need
03:22<synapt>?
03:22<@heckman>haha
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03:23<amitz>megatron27_: be in frontier when developing. by the time it's done, it becomes stable! o/
03:23<megatron27_>heart burn
03:23<MJCS>dose this network support +x?
03:23<groulder>what version of the kernel should i be using with debian 6?
03:23<@heckman>host cloaking?
03:23<@heckman>No
03:24<MJCS>k
03:24<groulder>2.6.32.16-linode28?
03:24<@heckman>groulder: for linode the latest 2.6 paravirt
03:24<synapt>MJCS: http://www.oftc.net/oftc/UserCloaks
03:24<groulder>ok
03:24<megatron27_>heartburn
03:25<@mikegrb>lulz
03:25<synapt>lol man, like every op on this network has a 12+ idle time
03:25<MJCS>ty
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03:33-!-mode/#linode [-R] by heckman
03:35<Peng>heckman: Wait, are you monitoring #oftc, or was that a coincidence?
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03:35<Maulkin>Morning
03:35<@heckman>Hello Maulkin
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03:35<dcraig>yikes
03:35<Peng>Erk.
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03:35<amitz>psychic
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03:36<@heckman>Maulkin: may I ask what you are using to flag them as bots?
03:36<Maulkin>Well, I guess they're joining here first
03:36<dcraig>why wouldn't you ban the bot?
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03:36<@heckman>Maulkin: PM?
03:36<dcraig>instead of just killing it...
03:36<Peng>I should set up an alias for quick join/part ignoring. By the time I do /help ignore it's usually over.
03:36<amitz>i ignore join/part by default ;-)
03:36<Maulkin>heckman: based on another channel they're joining
03:36<MJCS>:p
03:37<@heckman>If you have the 30 seconds, I'd just like to give you the information. I don't wish to invade your PMs without permission. :)
03:37<Maulkin>Though some seem to be joining the C&C channel first, so you're not seeing all of them
03:37<Maulkin>heckman: sure
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03:38<MJCS>heckman: for mIRC /ignore -u *!*@*
03:38<MJCS>= 60 second or so ignore
03:39<MJCS>alternatively you can do -u#
03:39<Maulkin>In fact, most of them are getting caught before getting here. I'd suggest adding "/ignore -channels #linode * JOINS PARTS QUITS" to the topic
03:39<Maulkin>(for irssi)
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03:41<MJCS>are these all his bots?
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03:42<@heckman>No way to confirm. I would not be surprised, however.
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03:42<MJCS>what was he pissed off about anyways
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03:42<@heckman>Something to do with my girlfriend IRL.
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03:44-!-mode/#linode [+R] by heckman
03:44<MJCS>:\
03:44<Peng>Aww, and I was just gonna test my ignore rule.
03:44<Peng>Maulkin: I assume you saw that?
03:45<dcraig>girlfriend bots?
03:45<Maulkin>Peng: yes, and I'malso seeing all the ones that aren't making it to this channel
03:45<dcraig>what has heckman done now...
03:45<amitz>ah, so losing in p***s then compete in e-p****s :-p
03:45<Peng>Maulkin: Just makin' sure you hadn't fallen asleep. :)
03:45<dominikh>I absolutely hate it when idiots take such problems to unrelated channels in such a retarded way
03:46<dominikh>(yes, happened to me before, too :P)
03:46<Maulkin>I wouldn't jump to conclusions about who this is by the way.
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03:46-!-mode/#linode [-R] by heckman
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03:46*heckman remembers to change that before he gets scolded IRL
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03:47<@heckman>Peng: how's your ignore rule working?
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03:47<@heckman>dcraig: irl girlfriend...
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03:47<@heckman>She trolled some guy online and he raged.
03:47<Peng>heckman: I keep getting it wrong!
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03:47<dominikh>women always up for trouble!
03:47<dcraig>u gotta keep her in line dawg
03:47<dcraig>:p
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03:47<erik`>heckman, oh, i thought your gf was doing this because you insulted her or something :>
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03:47<MJCS>derp
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03:48<dcraig>at least the channel is active!
03:48<Peng>I did: /alias IGNORESPAM2 ignore -network $1 $0 CTCPS NOTICES JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS NICKS
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03:48<Peng>(/ignorespam1 is just joins, parts and quits.)
03:48<Peng>Clunky name, but good for quick tabbing.
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03:49<dominikh>weechat – non of your problems, all the fun :P
03:49<Peng>dominikh: Oh? What's it do?
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03:50<@heckman>man, this log is gonna be huge =/
03:50<dcraig>don't eat so much
03:50<dominikh>Peng: it has a built-in "smart" filter, which filters joins/parts/quits of those who haven't said a thing in X minutes – and it's a filter. I can press a key and see all the joins/parts again, retroactively
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03:50<Peng>dominikh: Neato. WeeChat is sounding increasingly perfect.
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03:50<dominikh>:>
03:50<sirpengi><3 weechat
03:51<dcraig>some irc servers have a channel mode that prevents joins from being sent until the person speaks
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03:51<dominikh>I don't like those modes personally
03:51<Peng>Has anyone joined, parted, quitted or any of the other things I said in the last 2-3 minutes?
03:51<Peng>If so, my ignore rule is working. :P
03:52<dcraig>well, it leaves your channel open to "spies"...
03:52<dcraig>Peng, no :p
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03:52<dominikh>Peng: yes :P
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03:52<Peng>D:
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03:54<MJCS>http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
03:54<MJCS>if u want to disable the join/quit
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03:56<dcraig>uh oh...
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03:57<@heckman>heh
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03:57<@heckman>those four are getting banned
03:57-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*mouse@140.112.203.*] by heckman
03:57-!-pattywacker was kicked from #linode by heckman [pattywacker]
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03:58<chesty>!heckman
03:58<linbot>heck, man, what do I look like, a Viking?
03:58<Peng>Ohnoes, Eva was used to spam. :(
03:58<MJCS>are these drones or is this amazon?
03:59<@heckman>this
03:59<@heckman>is
03:59<@heckman>sparta!!!
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03:59<Peng>Hmm, you could nuke that /16.
03:59*MJCS slaps heckman around a bit with a large trout
03:59<@heckman>I say we nuke the /8
03:59<@heckman>>_>
03:59<MJCS>hehe
03:59<berrin>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<priti>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<ajit>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<Evangeli0n[AwaY]>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<berrin>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<priti>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<ajit>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<Evangeli0n[AwaY]>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<berrin>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<priti>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<ajit>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59<Evangeli0n[AwaY]>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59-!-mode/#linode [+q *!*@altodigital-gw.hiway.co.uk] by FloodServ
03:59-!-mode/#linode [+q *!*@140.112.203.22] by FloodServ
03:59-!-mode/#linode [+q *!*@140.116.248.250] by FloodServ
03:59<berrin>FOR AS LONG AS HECKMAN WANTS TO DDOS PEOPLE, THIS FLOOD WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN AKILL
03:59-!-mode/#linode [+q *!*@12.124.168.62] by FloodServ
03:59<Peng>Taiwan Academic Network.
04:00<@heckman>So...if I am dossing him, how is he managing to control the bots?
04:00<Peng>heckman: Fatter pipes than you!
04:00<MJCS>so try the /8
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04:00<chesty>tyr /0
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04:00<NEO2138>CANT DDOS IPV6 DUMBASS
04:00-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*puregold@*.access.uunet.co.za] by heckman
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04:02<@heckman>But I can use my shift key properly. :D
04:03<Peng>heckman: You're DDoSing his Caps Lock; he can't turn it off.
04:03<@heckman>\o/
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04:04<chesty>\m/ ^_^ \m/
04:04<megatron27>\o/ -- what does that mean?
04:04<@heckman>hands up
04:04<@heckman>o = head
04:04<@heckman>\ / = arms
04:05<megatron27>oh
04:05<Maulkin>____\o/_______/(_______
04:06<megatron27>I hate installing stuff from source
04:06<megatron27>difficult to stay on top of patches
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04:06<@heckman>run gentoo and emerge everything
04:06<@mikegrb>lulz
04:06<dcraig>lol
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04:07<@mikegrb>lulz
04:07<@heckman>lol a girl named mark?
04:07<megatron27>but you would still have to wait for them to package the source code as a gentoo package
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04:07<bigcatpack>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
04:07-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*^^Tolgah@12.166.188.*] by heckman
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04:08<MJCS>ban all of 12?
04:08<Peng>I want to eat some fruit now.
04:08<Peng>MJCS: An entire /8? Yikes.
04:08<@heckman>woot another /8
04:08<megatron27>does this happen all the time?
04:08<MJCS>no
04:08<@mikegrb>lulz
04:08<MJCS>lol he gave a phone number
04:08<Peng>megatron27: #linode is rarely attacked./
04:08<MJCS>you guys want the number to FBI cyber crime division?
04:08<Maulkin>Can he just hurry up and and move over to TOR so I can shut it off again?
04:09<Peng>MJCS: It's probably someone innocent.
04:09<amitz><redacted> <- tasteless but really funny joke :-p
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04:09<@heckman>Peng: it's my girlfriend
04:09-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*imra@140.112.203.*] by heckman
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04:09<dcraig>cyber crime?
04:09<@heckman>Well, her house number anyway
04:09<Peng>Yikes.
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04:09<snubby>heh
04:09-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*DABRAT@140.112.0.*] by heckman
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04:09<MJCS>heckman: that phone # is?
04:09<@heckman>yeah
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04:10<Peng>Joe-job!
04:10<MJCS>how did he get it?
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04:10<@heckman>She used to be his friend.
04:10<dcraig>she must have broken his heart...
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04:10<@heckman>Even tho I asked her not to.
04:10<MJCS>wow
04:10-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*Dragon@140.116.180.*] by heckman
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04:10<MJCS>so some dude is pissed that you are dating his ex friend
04:10<@heckman>Maulkin: does hybrid allow for banning CIDRs?
04:10<MJCS>and is trying to ddos and botnet the servers
04:10<MJCS>wow
04:10<@heckman>Like +b
04:11<Maulkin>heckman: no idea, but OFTC might... :P
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04:12<Maulkin>You could, of course, write that as *!*@140.116.*
04:12<@heckman>good call...
04:12<snubby>or *!*@14?.* to be safer >:D
04:12<dcraig>is there a limit of 100 bans?
04:13<Maulkin>You'll just cover 4/8/16/24 there, but it's a start
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04:13<@heckman>OH GOD
04:13<megatron27>you can centralized something even with absolute positioning..... wow
04:13-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*@140.116.*] by heckman
04:13<megatron27><3 CSS
04:16<megatron27>violent femmes is so emo....
04:16<Peng>heckman: "OH GOD"?
04:16<@heckman>I had it list all the bans in the channel
04:16<@heckman>and it scared me
04:16<@heckman>=/
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04:16<MJCS>^^ bot
04:16<snubby>a rather large list too eh
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04:17<dcraig>if there actually is a 100-ban limit, sometimes setting them via chanserv can let you exceed the limit
04:17<megatron27>how can you tell that's a bot
04:17<@heckman>Nickname was here ebfore
04:17<MJCS>i remember the nick
04:17<MJCS>yeah
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04:17<Maulkin>Looks like it's now channel specific, so any more problems, ask in #oftc.
04:17*Maulkin waves
04:17<megatron27>do you guys have a key value store in your head or something
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04:18<@heckman>Well boys
04:18<MJCS>umm Yelda is a bot too
04:18<MJCS>same hostmask as someone from another country
04:18<MJCS>err hostmask = nick
04:18<@heckman>brb
04:18-!-mode/#linode [+R] by heckman
04:18<@heckman>til i get back
04:18<MJCS>Quits: HayeL (~Yelda@FKI-Logistex-1144869.cust-rtr.swbell.net) (autokilled: bot - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2011-02-19
04:20<megatron27>I'm waiting for a troll who tells us that he's from the future and came back in time to warn us about some server downtime in the future.
04:21<chesty>i'm from the future, i've come back to warn you about some server downtime
04:21<@mikegrb>lulz
04:21<mr_evil>her name is ariel yates, she got with him a while ago on the internet, but when timothy heckman here went to see her, he tried to finger her, she didnt like it, it wouldnt have worked out, so he goes back home, she gets with me, lols at how small his did was and how pathetic he is, i lol'd at him, he ddos'd my home IP, i use open wifi, set up ipv6 and now he
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04:21<mr_evil>cant ddos me
04:21<mr_evil>she isnt dating him
04:21<mr_evil>she is in michigan, single
04:21<mr_evil>i recently broke up with her
04:21<mr_evil>in his head, he still wants to be with her
04:22<@mikegrb>lulz
04:22<mr_evil>she ... lol'd at his small dick and sent him home, that speaks for itself
04:22<synapt>... Did I really see a retarded script kiddie say you can't DDoS IPv6?
04:22<mr_evil>so tim, get your facts straight
04:22<mr_evil>and if you didnt want me to bring this to your work
04:22<mr_evil>then why the hell did you ddos me
04:22<synapt>oh wait, is this the retarded script kiddie here?
04:22<mr_evil>you started this tim
04:23<mr_evil>your ddos attacks .... it aint much working, i have wifi in my area
04:23<mr_evil>so it looks like you gonna have to find a new way to attack me for taking ariel from you
04:24-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*1227007c@*.mibbit.com] by heckman
04:24-!-mr_evil was kicked from #linode by heckman [mr_evil]
04:24<synapt>Tardly kid is tardly
04:24<erik`>aw
04:24<erik`>i thought he was amusing
04:25<p33r>just so you know, DDoS attacks are illegal, and i dont know either of u, but i have been a target of a ddos attack, 1 that was so powerful that quadranet told nenolod they dont want me on their network
04:26<erik`>is there anyone in the world unaware that ddos is illegal then?
04:26<synapt>I think everyone in here knows extremely well the legalities of DDoS's
04:26<p33r>i understand both sides here
04:26<@heckman>Not really sure you do.
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04:26<@heckman>As I am invovled, and evne I have no idea what the heck is going on.
04:27<chesty>heck, get it?
04:27<p33r>well, i am sure nenolod wasnt happy with the ddos attacks against me, but he was forced to pull me from quadranet still, which costed me money
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04:27<megatron27>what the world needs now is love sweet love
04:27<p33r>heckman, if you are ddos attacking this dude, i would lay off
04:27<Peng>p33r: Being DDoSed was costing him money.
04:27<synapt>p33r: Chances are heckman is doing nothing and that kid is just trying to set him up
04:27<@heckman>^
04:27<@heckman>I'm actually working.
04:27*heckman is overnight support
04:27<synapt>So best to just stay out of things in all honesty, cause 'mr_evil' is far from the first kid who's done something like this to try and set someone up
04:28<p33r>maybe, but you cant always asume either way
04:28<p33r>assume*
04:28<Peng>(I still have my ignore rule on, but I keep checking the public logs to see what's going on. D: )
04:28<synapt>p33r: A long time in IRC gives me a good position to assume the method I described
04:28<synapt>:P
04:28<megatron27>isn't overnight support based in Australia
04:29<Peng>megatron27: ...That was Slicehost.
04:29<@heckman>Actually, array is an aussie
04:29<megatron27>ahhh, corrected
04:29<Peng>Ooh, that's right.
04:29<Peng>...But Slicehost did it first! I think.
04:30<p33r>i dont know, all this sounds peachy to me, i been staring down at my PoS laptop trying to get sound working
04:30<p33r>internet dating, ddos, and drama ..... sounds like a good story for a geeks soap opera
04:31<@heckman>ALSA giving you issues?
04:31<synapt>Why, so we can have an episode of numb3rs do a horribly inaccurate description of IRC again?
04:31<synapt>>.>
04:31<p33r>patent the idea and sell it
04:31<megatron27>I'd watch it
04:31<p33r>the next HBO hit series
04:32<p33r>i am f*cken baked, right now, i would watch anything
04:32<Peng>Lucky Star!
04:32<megatron27>but I watch Keeping with the Kardashians, so I'm not a good sample
04:32<p33r>i am forced to watch days of our lives on my lunch break
04:33<p33r>i hate being married
04:33<megatron27>supposedly some guy at Caltech (?) consults for Numb3rs right
04:33<p33r>didnt kevin mitnick appear on that show?
04:33*synapt thinks that alone would explain why numb3rs got everything wrong >.>
04:34<p33r>i think he did
04:34<chesty>I thought caltech was the big bang theory?
04:34<Peng>Jerry Bruckheimer.
04:35<dcraig>maybe caltech is both!
04:35<@mikegrb>lulz
04:35<synapt>either which way, numb3rs got it all wrong, lol, if you've never seen the episode, google it, it's all over youtube :P
04:35<dcraig>craft services always sets up on the lawn outside my lab
04:36<p33r>i am sorry, i am googling it, but all i see is a big wall of text and no motivation to read
04:36<megatron27>is it better than the Visual Basic mention in CSI:NY
04:36*megatron27 watching
04:38<megatron27>okay duplicity is working again
04:39<amitz>n3mber is really... unscientific, later episodes
04:40<amitz>at least season 1.
04:40<megatron27>well......
04:40<Peng>amitz: What, the first few episodes were accurate?
04:41<Peng>It is entertaining, though.
04:41<megatron27>I think numb3rs promotes xenophobia more than the average show....
04:42<amitz>less forcy
04:43<amitz>the circumstances that uses the math.
04:43<amitz>megatron27: perhaps because it's fbi.
04:44<Peng>megatron27: It does?
04:44<megatron27>yup
04:44*Peng hadn't noticed.
04:45<chesty>did you all see the video pointing out how friends was racist?
04:45<Peng>I did not.
04:45<chesty>it's awesome
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04:46<chesty>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUc0vbSlanM
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04:57<@heckman>Well, I guess we can't go -R
04:58<@heckman>I guess I'll be spending my morning babysitting #linode
04:59<dominikh>heckman: thank god your gf did not troll anonymous...
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05:00<@heckman>He's just as persistent...
05:00<chesty>I think arron would disagree with you there
05:00<chesty>aaron
05:00<dominikh>:>
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05:03<megatron27>I think I broke my duplicity repository by running two duplicity processes at the same time
05:04<megatron27>one thing I don't like about Linux is that they store important information in hidden directories
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05:07<@heckman>I have a feeling those two are going to be trouble
05:11<megatron27>I need to back everything up again.....
05:11<@mikegrb>lulz
05:11<@heckman>Well, means this time you won't make the same mistake...lol
05:13<megatron27>yeah, I had 22GB worth of backups... :-(
05:14<chesty>did you back up your backups?
05:15<chesty>well then, you've got no one to blame
05:16<megatron27>the backup for my backups are the original files :-)
05:16<megatron27>but yeah, I should get a second external hard disk for redundancy
05:16<megatron27>you're right
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06:05<Steve^>What's with all the bannings?
06:06<@heckman>Someone is loading up a bunch of SOCKS connections.
06:07<@heckman>I guess +M would be better
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06:22<salmankhan>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<vector>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<PietPaaltjes>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<everclear>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<zant>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<ajit>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<BluEyedM>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<msmermaid>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<clyde>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<Yelda>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<T4K>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<madzero>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<sugarrrr>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<bigcatpack>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<staryeyes>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<Bashful>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<sYn-poseidon>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<GOGETTER>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<DiEsElBoY[slEEpinG>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<tribute>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<carie>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<^^Tolgahan^^>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<trueone>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
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06:22<ANETA>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
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06:22<salmankhan>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<vector>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<PietPaaltjes>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<eboy>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<zant>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<msmermaid>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<ajit>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<jerryxtc>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<DABRAT>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<clyde>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
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06:22<sm>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<evangelina>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
06:22<Hmmm>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
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06:22<everclear>HELLO, I AM MS. HECKMAN, TIMOTHY MET ME AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES TRIED TO FINGER ME, HE IS A CLASSLESS FRUIT, MY PICTURE IS http://img577.imageshack.us/i/1001620y.jpg, AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I CAN BE REACHED AT 586-739-8262
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06:24<@heckman>Guess we're staying +R
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06:25<p33r>amusing indeed, some dinging my client!
06:25<p33r>i must say, thats 1 tasty looking vag
06:26<p33r>if i wasnt married, i would prolly be the perv that calls that number
06:26<@heckman>I'd prefer if you didn't call my girlfriend...
06:26<Peng>Crap, now I really want some fruit.
06:26<p33r>hey Peng
06:26<@mikegrb>mmm cake
06:26<p33r>the cake ...
06:26<p33r>its no lie
06:26*p33r nods his head in approval
06:27<@mikegrb>mmm cake
06:27<Peng>p33r: I do not have cake.
06:27<@mikegrb>mmm cake
06:27<p33r>mikegrb has the cake
06:27<walterheck>are we done disturbing my easy saturday morning of watching spartacus?
06:27<@heckman>banlist is full...hmm
06:28<p33r>walterheck, a little IRC drama isnt bad
06:28<Peng>That makes it a network issue. Maybe #oftc can akill 'em all.
06:28<p33r>you got porn out of it
06:28<walterheck>nah, but apparently MacIrssi thinks it's cool to play the sound of a bomb exploding on every ban
06:28<Peng>Haha
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06:28<p33r>i get it too
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06:29<walterheck>I'd heard that sound before sporadically, but never was able to trace it (nor did i bother)
06:29-!-mode/#linode [-b *!*DjEfx@*.212-8-104.static.clientes.euskaltel.es] by heckman
06:29<walterheck>so I guess it's good that I now know :)
06:29<p33r>i was playing a little bit of black ops and i heard my computer go apeshit
06:29<Peng>Ah, do FloodServ's quiets count towards the ban limit?
06:30<p33r>i dont know
06:30<p33r>but i know 1 thing
06:30<p33r>darpa rules
06:30<p33r>just thought i would share that
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06:31-!-mode/#linode [-b *!*jksdhfak@*.212-8-104.static.clientes.euskaltel.es] by heckman
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06:31<@heckman>Peng: I think so...
06:32<p33r>i am curious
06:32<p33r>what did you do to piss this dude off
06:33<Peng>heckman: You can try removing them to save space, then, especially if they're redundant with your bans.
06:33<Peng>Although FloodServ might add 'em back.
06:33<@heckman>I am just removing a whole bunch.
06:33<@heckman>No reason to have bans when he has an unlimited list of socks
06:33<Peng>p33r: Scroll up. Stole his dream girl.
06:34<p33r>i am confused
06:34<p33r>i thought he said he stole heckmans girl
06:34<@heckman>Peng: Not sure how it's stealing when I had her before she even met him. =/
06:34<p33r>i dont know
06:34<@mikegrb>lulz
06:34<@heckman>Nah, she's mine. Lol
06:34<Peng>heckman: Well, that seems to be his version anyway.
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06:34-!-mode/#linode [-b *!*Ax-@*.143.60.36.nw.nuvox.net] by heckman
06:35<p33r>but whatever is happening, you need to handle your own dude, its becoming an annoyance to everyone here
06:35*heckman shrugs
06:35<@heckman>I don't even know how to contact the guy
06:36<megatron27>If I should stay, I would only be in your way
06:36<p33r>stealing ones girl isnt all the greatest of ideas, especially if this is gonna happen
06:36<megatron27>So I'll go
06:36<megatron27>But I know
06:36<@heckman>p33r: unfortunately I've been dating her longer than she's known him.
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06:36<Peng>p33r: I hope you understand I was being facetious.
06:37<Peng>I just realized: Love triangles, revenge, this is a great drama.
06:37<Peng>Almost.
06:37<@heckman>So, he's trying to get me to break up with her so he can try his luck.
06:37<p33r>he should let it go, i get that, but if someone took your girl, what would you do
06:37<p33r>catch22 right
06:37<Peng>FACETIOUS
06:37*Peng waves arms
06:37<@heckman>p33r: I wish his thinking progressed like that.
06:38<p33r>if anyone touches my wife, they wouldnt be able to walk....
06:38<p33r>knees are vital
06:38<chesty>and you would be in jail
06:38<chesty>with a sore bottom
06:38<p33r>i would
06:38<@mikegrb>lulz
06:38<p33r>lol
06:38<p33r>wrong timing
06:38<p33r>:(
06:39<p33r>suggestion to heckman
06:39<megatron27>it would be easier if you could just urinate to mark your territory and belongings
06:39<p33r>if he is this butthurt over a girl, and you dont know how to contact him
06:39<p33r>why not see if she can reason with him
06:39<@mikegrb>lulz
06:39<@heckman>She's tried, lol.
06:39<@heckman>He's insane, sadly.
06:39<@heckman>There's no reasoning.
06:39<p33r>well, you need to do something
06:39<@heckman>I'm aware of the situation.
06:40<p33r>if he has an unlimited ammount of hosts
06:40<p33r>and he is as persistant as it seems
06:40<Peng>Nonsense. Unlimited? Haven't you heard of IPv4 exhaustion? :D
06:40<p33r>he was on an ipv6 host
06:40<dominikh>and that's exactly why I am against IPv6!
06:40<dominikh>it does us no good
06:41<Peng>Right, and all those IPv6 articles say "nearly unlimited".
06:41<megatron27>this guy is quite technically competent isn't he
06:41<p33r>i dont know
06:41<p33r>i know i was amused at first
06:41<p33r>right now, i am actually starting to get annoyed
06:41<megatron27>I'm still okay
06:41<@heckman>Well no worries, we're +R
06:41<@heckman>Not going to get anymore of em.
06:42<chesty>why don't the bots register?
06:42<p33r>he is taking it out on a group of people instead of just being a man and like, donkey punching heckman here in the nuts
06:42<Peng>I have seen bots register here.
06:42<@heckman>He started to rage after the IRC operators killed him a few time.
06:42<Peng>I think it was here, anyway
06:43<@heckman>s/time/times/
06:43<p33r>if you took my girl, i would do that, no offense heckman
06:43<@heckman>p33r: I didn't take his girl tho...
06:43<p33r>i dont know
06:43<p33r>he said he took her from you
06:43<megatron27>. o O ( )
06:43<p33r>and you said earlier you took his
06:43<@heckman>No I didn't.
06:43<p33r>i am still too stoned to "get it"
06:43<Peng>Saying something doesn't make it true.
06:44<Peng>p33r: *I* said that, and I was *joking*.
06:44<Steve^>saying it on the internet does
06:44<p33r>meh
06:44<p33r>i am stoned
06:44<p33r>ok, you said it Peng
06:44<megatron27>tired
06:44<deejoe>Steve^: only if you're a dog, though
06:44<Peng>I was overly simplifying a complicated situation I do not have a full understanding of for the purposes of humour.
06:44<p33r>dont explain it
06:45<@heckman>Hell, even I don't fully understand the situation.
06:45<p33r>if you do, you blow my buzz
06:45<Peng>simplifying/exaggerating/clicheifying
06:45<megatron27>you know... I'm thinking that we shouldn't even put a registration page on the site
06:45<erik`>did anyone try calling the phone number?
06:45<megatron27>did anybody click on the photo?
06:45<@heckman>I would appreciate if you didn't try to call my girlfriend's house.
06:45<p33r>i dont have long distance, plus my wife would have my balls
06:45<megatron27>tell me more
06:46<p33r>more
06:46<@heckman>p33r++
06:46<Peng>"Hi, heckman's girlfriend! I'm from the Internet! ...Were you asleep?"
06:46<erik`>"i'm here to glue captions to your cats"
06:46<p33r>the internet isnt meant for love
06:46<p33r>it was meant for porn
06:46<p33r>:)
06:46<Steve^>and linodes
06:46<Peng>p33r: I prefer them combined.
06:47<megatron27>any pr0n sites hosted on Linode
06:47<p33r>porn being HOSTED on linode
06:47<p33r>yea
06:47<p33r>what Peng said
06:47<Peng>I meant combining love and porn, but combining loveporn and Linodes is good too!
06:47<p33r>hey heckman
06:47<megatron27>!summer
06:47<linbot>http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk
06:47<p33r>she have any more noods?
06:48<p33r>j/k
06:48<p33r>:)
06:48<Peng>I don't even know what that means.
06:48<megatron27>I'm sweating a lot
06:48<p33r>Peng that means, any pornographic bateworthy material
06:48<Peng>I see.
06:49<megatron27>I found the perfect font - http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Yanone-Kaffeesatz
06:49<Peng>That is a convenient abbreviation.
06:49<Steve^>that's a nice font
06:49<chesty>noods isn't much of an abbreviation of nudes
06:49<p33r>if you ask me what that means ..... i am gonna like, pull a tyson and bit your fucken ear off
06:50<p33r>abbreviation is fail
06:50<Peng>Oh, it's a synonym?
06:50<megatron27>the characters are a little too narrow for a logo
06:50<megatron27>but it's definitely nice
06:50<p33r>the work you look for is called a little something called slang
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06:50<p33r>bye behave ?
06:50<Peng>megatron27: I dunno, I don't think that font is quite to my taste. I feel like the lowercase letters are going to fall over.
06:51<p33r>thats gotta be a bitch to have your girls' nudes on the web though
06:51<Peng>Depends on how they got there.
06:51<p33r>whats worse is that is a landline
06:51<megatron27>I don't understand, Peng
06:52<p33r>anywho backtraced it it a 1 Barbara M Yates from Utica
06:52<p33r>isnt Utica the college from road trip ?
06:52<megatron27>I found something similar to the Samsonite font
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06:53<p33r>hi BarkerJr
06:53<Peng>megatron27: The lowercase letters just feel kind of off-balance to me.
06:53<p33r>anyone here seen road trip ?
06:53<Peng>megatron27: Like, look at that b. If you carved one out of wood, it'd topple right over.
06:53<Peng>megatron27: Which is true of many fonts, but like I said, off-balance.
06:53<megatron27>I'm looking for a serif font that does not looks a little modern
06:54<megatron27>does***
06:54<Peng>I'm not one to ask about fonts. I leave all my system fonts on the defaults. :D
06:54<Peng>And I could never make a logo in my life!
06:54<megatron27>I can't either
06:54<megatron27>but I'm too cheap too hire a designer
06:54<chesty>if you think the b is going to fall over, wait until you see the /
06:54<p33r>now i am sweating
06:55<p33r>thanks for bringing it up
06:55<Peng>chesty: ha
06:56<megatron27>my favorite font at the moment is Museo
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06:56<Steve^>I'm thinking I should be documenting my linode stuff so I don't forget what I've done - Can anyone recommend a small structured note taking app / wiki, preferably not database driven so that I can stick in Dropbox
06:57<chesty>tomboy
06:57<hypatia>Steve^: i use a textfile for that
06:57<hypatia>dropbox even versions it for me
06:57<megatron27>I use tomboy for that
06:58<dominikh>text file here
06:59<megatron27>there's this KDE application that's similar to OneNote
06:59<megatron27>that I like too
06:59<megatron27>but it's probably overkill
06:59<hypatia>there's xournal
06:59<hypatia>in gnome
06:59<hypatia>which is lovely if you have a tablet, but probably totally overkill for this
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06:59<Steve^>MS OneNote is probably the best app they have
06:59<hypatia>yeah
07:00<hypatia>xournal is trying to be that but is missing a ton of features
07:00<hypatia>multimedia, clippings, and HWR, namely
07:00<Steve^>I like the idea of using HTML for tables, lists, links etc
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07:01<hypatia>Steve^: openoffice, maybe?
07:01<hypatia>it can edit html
07:01<hypatia>alternately something purpose-built like nvu
07:01<hypatia>does that still even exist?
07:01<hypatia>anyway, there are some ideas
07:01<Steve^>bah, lets keep it lightweighg
07:01<Steve^>t
07:01<hypatia>bedtime for me :)
07:02<megatron27>it's called BasKet Notepads I think
07:02<megatron27>BasKet Note Pads
07:03<BarkerJr>google office?
07:03<Steve^>oh yea, I think I've tried that in the past
07:03<megatron27>but since you're using dropbox anyway, what about Evernote
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07:05<Steve^>does evernote have markup?
07:06<Megaf>34 days of uptime and now I had to reboot =/
07:06<Steve^>oh, no linux version
07:06<Peng>Megaf: Why?
07:06<Megaf>kernel and glibc update
07:07<Peng>Megaf: Well, being up-to-date is more important than uptime. :)
07:07<Megaf>yep, thats why I rebooted
07:07<Megaf>:)
07:08<megatron27>yeah, there's no Linux version
07:08<megatron27>but you can use the web based version
07:09<megatron27>or use the Windows version under wine
07:09<megatron27>another good looking font - http://www.fontspace.com/arro/vegur
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07:13<thegodlikehobo>i like cats
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07:13<Megaf>Oo
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07:13<chesty>!heckman
07:13<linbot>heck, man, what do I look like, a Viking?
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07:14<BarkerJr>quick, someone open a ticket :)
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07:14<Megaf>array: caker deaton ericoc
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07:14<Nat_UB>I'm getting dizzy
07:14<Peng>What?
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07:14<thegodlikehobo>going up?
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07:14<Peng>Megaf: Why are you bothering the ops?
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07:14<chesty>Peng: look at the logs
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07:14<Peng>Oooh.
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07:14<Megaf>Peng: they have to ban this guy
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07:14<praetorian>hm
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07:14<BarkerJr>someone's mirc script is broken
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07:15<Peng>Megaf: Apologies. I'd forgotten about the attacks.
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07:15<Steve^>It's on purpose
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07:15<Steve^>hide join/parts
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07:15<Steve^>ahhh, silence
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07:15<Megaf>any op here?
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07:15<Steve^>heckman,
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07:15<BarkerJr>if it was on purpose, there would be hundreds of join/parts
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07:15<BarkerJr>not two
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07:15<chesty>BarkerJr: it's +R
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07:15<Megaf>whatever... let be get back to the video Im watching
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07:15<erik`>impressive how long this guy keeps up with this shit
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07:15<praetorian>you mean like the hundres happening atm?
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07:15<praetorian>haha
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07:15<Steve^>there are enough
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07:16<Megaf><chesty> BarkerJr: it's +R
07:16<Megaf>it is
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07:16<megatron27>it's still possible to carry out a conversation with this
07:16<Peng>We're elimination all the silly people who show joins and parts! :D
07:17<BarkerJr>:)
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07:17<megatron27>9.2GB of backups done...
07:17<megatron27>7GB more to go...
07:17<praetorian>your backups are small.
07:17<chesty>great, now we've lost our libertiy
07:17<praetorian>guy at work hadto restore a 1.2TB database the other day.
07:17<BarkerJr>:(
07:18<Steve^>MoinMoin wiki is 58 MB, not sure I can justify that in my dropbox
07:18<megatron27>yeah, these are my personal files
07:18<praetorian>oh :p
07:18<megatron27>but shit, 1.2TB
07:18<megatron27>wtf
07:18<praetorian>too words
07:18<praetorian>marketing.
07:18<praetorian>(well, one word ;)
07:19<praetorian>i was going to say email marketing
07:19<BarkerJr>it shouldn't take more than a few hours
07:19<megatron27>frozen yogurt hmmmm.....
07:19<megatron27>I know a place....
07:19<megatron27>which database program can handle that much data
07:19<BarkerJr>mssql
07:19<praetorian>did i mention its a sql server 2000 database?
07:19<praetorian>haha
07:20<BarkerJr>sql server can handle data files up to 2TB
07:20<praetorian>isnt that limitation no longer existant with 2008rc2?
07:20<BarkerJr>right, it's an O/S limit in 2003
07:20<praetorian>nod
07:21<megatron27>I need to go
07:21<megatron27>bye
07:21<BarkerJr>I work on a 1.4TB database at work :)
07:21<praetorian>ah
07:21<praetorian>is it marketing? haha
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07:22<BarkerJr>well, sort of. it's an application that generates insurance quotes for users.
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07:23<praetorian>thanks for that, FloodServ
07:23<praetorian>BarkerJr: oh right. so not really? ;)
07:23<BarkerJr>we're required to retain a copy of every quote we generate, including its input data, for 7 years
07:23<praetorian>that's a tad excessive (especially if the quote isnt proceeded with)
07:24<BarkerJr>right, unfortunately we don't have a good way to determine if it was
07:24<praetorian>ah bugger
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07:24<BarkerJr>so we just hold on to them until they can't sue us over something related
07:25<praetorian>here in .au, i think we are about to get up with some stupid data retention rules
07:25<praetorian>ah, the magical sue
07:25<chesty>I like pam myself
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07:25<praetorian>you would. you us hippie
07:26<chesty>you watch more usa tv than me
07:26<praetorian>maybe.
07:26<chesty>before you accuse me, take a look at yourself
07:26<praetorian>BarkerJr: you know the irony tho of us having a 1.2T database? our sales and production database for the last ..hmmm... 13 years is only about 350G
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07:27<praetorian>chesty: hug.
07:27<chesty>it's a line from eric clapton unplugged i was listening to
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07:28<praetorian>i was looking at a line from charlie sheens vegas suite
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07:29<chesty>is that why you have no teeth?
07:29<praetorian>oh teeth at fine, think you meant amy whingehouse.
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07:31<praetorian>chesty: meanwhile, ben elton.
07:31<chesty>don't like him
07:32<praetorian>he didnt seem your type
07:32<praetorian>but the show isnt too bad i thought.
07:32<chesty>saw him on rove, he paid out of rove bad, the next time he was one rove, he was praising him for the increase book sales his last rove gave him
07:33<chesty>almost english
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07:33<praetorian>you're losing your touch
07:33<chesty>urmom says you haven't
07:34<praetorian>no, but the Touchh is crappy. but atleast it has ios.
07:35<BarkerJr>I'd discuss more, but since this channel is logged, I have to guard my responses
07:35<praetorian>nod
07:35<praetorian>all good
07:36<praetorian>chesty may use eit against you.
07:36<praetorian>insurance is such a big thing in the states
07:36<praetorian>hear, not so much
07:36<praetorian>i need to sleep. night
07:36<BarkerJr>yeah, cya
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08:29-!-mode/#linode [-R] by heckman
08:30-!-mode/#linode [-M] by heckman
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08:39<majdal>is this working now?
08:40<majdal>bah - Hi everyone... I'm trying to find a good guide on how to deploy a django site on apache using mod_wsgi and virtualenv
08:41<majdal>i can't find a good complete guide... can someone recommend a link to me?
08:43<majdal>my linode has Ubuntu 10.04
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08:47<hobot>let me check
08:47<hobot>because I thought there was a couple
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08:49<hobot>http://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/?StackScriptID=131
08:49<hobot>how about this
08:49<hobot>oh wait
08:49<hobot>deploy A site
08:49<hobot>sorry
08:49<hobot>I just looked for the wrong thing for a while hehe
08:51<hobot>http://jmoiron.net/blog/deploying-django-mod-wsgi-virtualenv/
08:51<hobot>how about this
08:55<p33r>holy fuck
08:55<p33r>http://www.keepbusy.net/pic.php?id=1575
08:55<p33r>i want 1
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09:08<Marius>Awww, how cute :3
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09:11<majdal>hobot: i'll try that... thanks...
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09:17<bonesoul>hi
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09:19<bonesoul>so i've been using linode for 2+ years, i'm quite happy with it, but with a project i'm working on i need to use a windows based dedicated. i'd like to hear from guys who runs a windows vps, looking for your suggestions (sorry this is a bit offtopic this channel im a happy linoder at least :D )
09:25<mrconnerton>windows huh. sounds like a terrible project your working on ;-)
09:30<bonesoul>heh, by nature it needs a windows hosting cause we have to use .net platform and mono is not a viable choise
09:31<swaj>bonesoul: I use KickAssVPS.com for my Windows hosting. They have pretty great support and good prices. I'd recommend them.
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09:32<bonesoul>oh i was just checking their page
09:32<bonesoul>what about solarvps and vplans, and even maybe frantech?
09:33<@Perihelion>BLASPHEMY
09:33<swaj>never had any reason to try them out. I've been really happy with KickAssVPS. Their control panel leaves a little to be desired, but you do get Virtuozzo access, so that covers just about anything you'd want to do (like reboots and stuff).
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09:42<bonesoul>okay thanks
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09:43<Aka>Anyone know why WP Super Cache wont preload cache files... I set the options to do so, but it doesn't seem to ever run. However pages are cached when visited, so the plugin itself is working.
09:46<robinetd>Perihelion: Do you sleep? :d
09:46<@Perihelion>I get up at 7am
09:46<atourino>sleep is for the weak
09:47<@Perihelion>I woke up automatically this morning...didn't even need an alarm
09:47<@Perihelion>I was kinda sad
09:47<robinetd>I get up around noon usually, but something made a hell of a noise here and woke me up at 9. :(
09:47<robinetd>Still don't know what it was.
09:47<bss>random "anyone have a clever idea?" question: i have a codebase with two volatile files, one huge (>1 GB) pickled dictionary and a relatively small sqlite db. it's running on a home box because the memory requirements of the un-pickled dict rule out running the entire thing on my linodes, but i'd like to put a django frontend around the sqlite db and have that on one of the linodes
09:47<teyus>"Please copy the credit card holder's license (front and back) and the credit card used (front and back) " what is mean?
09:47<bss>any interesting tricks i could do other than some sort of rsync/sshfs monstrosity?
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09:48<robinetd>teyus: Photocopy your drivers license and your credit card, both sides.
09:48<@Perihelion>robinetd: I recently got a moped and had been keeping it in my kitchen (my kitchen has mad street cred now btw). I moved it outside and spent the first night thinking that every little sound was someone trying to take it
09:48<@Perihelion>Turns out it was just incredibly windy and the chain/cover was rattling
09:48<@Perihelion>My sleepy brain is dumb.
09:48<robinetd>Perihelion: Moped :(
09:48<robinetd>Get a harley!
09:49<@Perihelion>I want to!
09:49<robinetd>vroom VROOM!
09:49<@Perihelion>Moped works for now and was 9001 times cheaper
09:50<robinetd>The harley I want is $16000. :(
09:50<@Perihelion>The moped doesn't look like a regular moped though...I like it
09:50<hobot>thats over 9000!
09:50<@Perihelion>Yes!
09:50<robinetd>I wonder at what temperatures does linode keep the office? Is it heated primarily by the datacenters? :P
09:51<@Perihelion>Last time I checked the thermostat said 73F
09:51<hobot>dont ruin his rream
09:51<hobot>dream*
09:52<hobot>thats my job
09:52<robinetd>Meh. 68F or it's going to get messy.
09:52<robinetd>I walked into a doctors office the other day and it felt like 80 degrees in there. Almost threw up.
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09:53<hobot>its so he can efficiently spread contagion
09:53<@Perihelion>:O
09:53<@Perihelion>robinetd: http://www.tomosusa.com/pages/model/streetmate
09:54<@Perihelion>I have black and silver :3
09:54<robinetd>The doctor also yapped my ear off about university of michigan. I didn't give a flying fuck, I just wanted to get out of there. :(
09:54<robinetd>Perihelion: Looks like a dirtbike
09:54<hobot>university of shut up
09:55<bss>this is not a good time for me to be reading #linode... it's warming up outside again and i've been thinking about getting a moped for years
09:55<robinetd>hobot: Meh. I like U of M. It's just that I was sick, the temperature was unbelievably high in the office, and he should've been going on to other patients. :(
09:55<robinetd>bss: They go 30 mph :(
09:55<robinetd>If it can't hit 70, they're useless to me. :O
09:55<@Perihelion>bss: Doit
09:56<bss>it would only be for city streets, so that's the speed limit usually anyway
09:56<@Perihelion>robinetd: aftermarket :3
09:56<robinetd>bss: Like people follow those.
09:56<bss>i, and my driving record, can attest to there being multiple speed traps between here and work
09:56<robinetd>Get a fuzz buster.
09:57<nenolod>those will get you jailtime here
09:57<nenolod>so no :P
09:57<nenolod>i like a jail-free experience
09:57<robinetd>nenolod: Where do you live?
09:57<nenolod>oklahoma
09:57<robinetd>lolol
09:57*nenolod shrugs.
09:57<robinetd>They're legal in Michigan, but if you get pulled over, he won't give you a warning. He'll ticket you for speeding or whatever you were doing.
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09:59<@Perihelion>I think they're illegal here too
09:59<robinetd>Speed limit of 40 miles an hour on a road with no surrounding houses or people and no cars on it at the time = SPEEEEEEEEEEEEED
10:00<@Perihelion>There's a really nice stretch of road by here
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10:00<nenolod>robinetd: you're in michigan and you haven't solved the recent #linode spam problem why?
10:00<robinetd>nenolod: What?
10:01*robinetd is in the dark.
10:01<nenolod>oh nothing :)
10:01<Marius>omigawd
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10:01<@Perihelion>Shh Marius
10:01<Marius>it's nenolod!
10:01<Marius>I was nice, I didn't call him anything mean =(
10:01<@Perihelion>Did we ever figure out what a nenolod is?
10:02<swaj>I heard it was a backwards dolonen
10:02<@Perihelion>I think of nematodes or some other flatworm thing
10:02<robinetd>I want a mac mini, so I was checking on ebay. Everyone wants like $300 for their old G4 mac minis.
10:02<@Perihelion>dolonen sounds like a viking name
10:02<@Perihelion>Marius: You are now Dolonen.
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10:03<gerim>%%%MafiaRulSs%%% The way you shake it, I can't believe it I ain't never seen an ass like that The way you move it, you make my pee pee go Doing, doing, doing %%%MafiaRulSs%%%
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10:03<justdt>%%%MafiaRulSs%%% The way you shake it, I can't believe it I ain't never seen an ass like that The way you move it, you make my pee pee go Doing, doing, doing %%%MafiaRulSs%%%
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10:03<kylem>%%%MafiaRulSs%%% The way you shake it, I can't believe it I ain't never seen an ass like that The way you move it, you make my pee pee go Doing, doing, doing %%%MafiaRulSs%%%
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10:03<robinetd>Cute.
10:03<@Perihelion>Bollocks.
10:03<robinetd>How long has that been going on?
10:03<@Perihelion>All morning.
10:04<Marius>awww, he only has one picture, he's been usign the same link all day
10:04<swaj>wow someone doesn't like heckman
10:04<robinetd>swaj: Nobody likes heckman. :(
10:05<robinetd>Hah. This guy wants $700 for his mac mini. It's cheaper just to buy it directly from apple.
10:05<@Perihelion>Yeah, I totally would
10:05<nenolod>that spam problem, robinetd
10:05<nenolod>the perp lives in michigan
10:05<@Perihelion>The price you're going to pay for current gen is comparable to just getting it new
10:05<robinetd>nenolod: Whereabouts in michigan?
10:06<nenolod>wow
10:06<robinetd>Perihelion: I don't really care about current gen. I just want something that runs OSX. :(
10:06<nenolod>i really did not need to see that image
10:06<nenolod>at 9 in the morning
10:06<robinetd>nenolod: If you can get me a physical address and it's not too far away from me, I'll knock on his door and tell him to make like a tree \o/
10:07<gohan4748>hey guys
10:08<gohan4748>what do u guys talk about in here
10:08<nenolod>robinetd: don't have that, sorry bro
10:08<robinetd>gohan4748: Are you serious?
10:08<gohan4748>im in 13chats right now
10:08<robinetd>Perihelion: gohan4748 got banned from an ubuntu channel \o/
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10:08<robinetd>For being a troll. Heads up. :)
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10:09<gohan4748>my bro said some things to get me banned
10:09<@Perihelion>It's always a sibling that does things on someone else's nick
10:09<@Perihelion>Darn those siblings.
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10:09<nenolod>Perihelion: it's called xlock
10:09<nenolod>seriously :)
10:09<gohan4748>wanna know what my bro saidd
10:10<nenolod>no
10:10<nenolod>not really
10:10<@Perihelion>Not really
10:10<@Perihelion>nenolod: I don't have "siblings"
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10:10<@Perihelion>I take full responsibility for dumb things I say on IRC
10:10<nenolod>Perihelion: agree
10:10<@Perihelion>In fact, I'm somewhat proud of the things I say
10:10<nenolod>Perihelion: still, xlock
10:10<nenolod>:)
10:10<@Perihelion>:>
10:10<robinetd>Perihelion: Do you like Ozzy Osbourne?
10:10<@Perihelion>robinetd: Perhaps.
10:11<gohan4748>i hate my bro i was having fun untill he said some things
10:11<robinetd>Perihelion: That is a very weird answer.
10:11<robinetd>gohan4748: Are you schizophrenic?
10:11<gohan4748>I HATE MY BROTHER
10:11-!-mode/#linode [-R] by Perihelion
10:11<gohan4748>A WAT
10:11<hobot>alright
10:11<hobot>calm down
10:11<hobot>its ok
10:11<hobot>this is the internet
10:11<robinetd>breath in. Breath out.
10:11<gohan4748>I CANT I GOT BANNED
10:11<gohan4748>I AM MAD
10:11<hobot>well be mad in normal caps
10:11<robinetd>Perihelion: Ever heard Let It Die?
10:12<@Perihelion>There's nothing we can do about it here.
10:12<@Perihelion>You'll need to take it up with operators in the other channel.
10:12<robinetd>Perihelion: It's on a whole different network even.
10:12<gohan4748>NO I WONT I NEVER GOT BANNED
10:12<robinetd>I think he's stalking me. :(
10:12<nenolod>yes, we know where #ubuntu is.
10:12<gohan4748>I HATE MY BROTHER
10:12<atourino>we hate your caps
10:12<nenolod>gohan4748: maybe you should go take this up with your brother then
10:12<atourino>:P
10:12<robinetd>nenolod: He actually got banned from the offtopic channel.
10:12<nenolod>gohan4748: i recommend kitchen knives
10:12<hobot>run him over with a car
10:13<gohan4748>yeah knives
10:13<robinetd>Don't forget the napalm.
10:13<gohan4748>i fell better know
10:13<robinetd>Bonus points if you spill some on yourself. :)
10:13<nenolod>be sure to film it all and put it on youtube for our enjoyment
10:14<robinetd>gohan4748: So are you stalking me?
10:14<gohan4748>but how did i get un banned
10:14<gohan4748>brb got to go eat
10:14<robinetd>o_o
10:15<robinetd>I think I might follow suit. I didn't eat breakfast yet.
10:15<robinetd>!urmom
10:15<linbot>robinetd: Yo mommas so ugly she scared off the crabs in your dads pants (824:3/7) [mmoru]
10:15<robinetd>YES!
10:15<robinetd>!urmom vote up 824
10:15<linbot>robinetd: Voted up 824 [omurm]
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10:19<gohan4748>im back
10:19<gohan4748>i had a biscut eggs and sasuges
10:19<gohan4748>yum
10:20<hawk>and spam?
10:20<gohan4748>no i type fast
10:20*jtsage goes crazy wondering who could be sshing to host 'notty'... unless of course that would be no tty. well, good waste of about 5min there
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10:21<gohan4748>bananana;
10:21<gohan4748>yum
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10:21<@ericoc>breakfast! i knew i forgot to do something this morning
10:21<hawk>gohan4748: It was a weird attempt at humor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_eYSuPKP3Y)
10:22<gohan4748>i can sing you guys a song about bananas
10:22<gohan4748>its goes like this
10:23<gohan4748>ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
10:25*p33r slaps nenolod
10:25<gohan4748>im a banana im a banana im a banana look at me move yeah yeah im a banana im a banana im a banana look at me move yeah banana power banana power banana power STOP.
10:25<gohan4748>ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
10:25<gohan4748>im a banana im a banana im a banana look at me move yeah yeah im a banana im a banana im a banana look at me move yeah banana power banana power banana power STOP.
10:25*HedgeMage gags gohan4748 and throws him/her in a trunk somewhere
10:26<robinetd>Perihelion: This is what he did in the other channel.
10:26<gohan4748>i can sing u guys a song bout banana
10:26<gohan4748>its fun
10:26<robinetd>gohan4748: gdiaf kthxnbai
10:26<dominikh>a hot fire
10:27<gohan4748>wat robinetd
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10:27<gohan4748>i have alot of friends
10:28<gohan4748>brb watching sonic x
10:28<gohan4748>ill take my time
10:28<robinetd>Please do.
10:28<gohan4748>see u huys in 30minutes
10:28<gohan4748>see u guys in 30minutes
10:28<gohan4748>bye
10:30-!-mode/#linode [+q gohan4748!*@*] by Perihelion
10:30*robinetd hugs Perihelion.
10:30<@Perihelion><3
10:30<Marius>wat
10:30<Marius>you hitting on my woman!
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10:31<robinetd>Marius: You wish.
10:31-!-gohan4748 [~sasuke@adsl-99-59-84-86.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode
10:31*HedgeMage <3 Perihelion
10:31<HedgeMage>Thanks, he needed that.
10:32<atourino>... and my ignore list grows by one
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10:33<robinetd>atourino: Doesn't matter, he's gone and quieted.
10:33-!-gohan4748 [~sasuke@adsl-99-59-84-86.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode
10:33<robinetd>lulz.
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10:33-!-mode/#linode [+b *!*sasuke@*.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] by Perihelion
10:33-!-gohan4748 was kicked from #linode by Perihelion [gohan4748]
10:34<robinetd>hawt
10:34<@Perihelion>:3
10:34<robinetd>Someone go get me some breakfast. :(
10:34<pedro5>uh, is now a good time to ask if anybody has installed munin on their linode?
10:34<robinetd>Perihelion: I'm sure someone has.
10:34<robinetd>pedro5: ^
10:34<megatron27>what's interesting today
10:35<pedro5>I'm not exactly a linux pro, and am hoping that if I start this process and get stuck that somebody here might be able to lend a hand
10:36<@Perihelion>!library munin
10:36<linbot>Perihelion: 1. Monitoring Servers with Munin on Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) (http://bitl.in/4ex4n) - 2. Monitoring Servers with Munin on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/wk6hwy) - 3. Monitoring Servers with Munin on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) (http://bitl.in/d0zav)
10:36*Perihelion fluffles linbot
10:36<pedro5>yaya, I already have one of those open
10:36<atourino>http://library.linode.com/search?query=munin
10:36<@Perihelion>Awesome
10:36<atourino>ok
10:36<@Perihelion>It's usually pretty straightforward
10:37<pedro5>I'm not a giant risk taker, that's all, heh
10:37<@Perihelion>haha
10:37<pedro5>plus, if I breakify if, I'm too linuxtarded to get out super deep water
10:37<@Perihelion>Take risks, make mistakes. You'll learn stuff in the process.
10:38<@Perihelion>Well the good news is that we make it easy to redeploy :P
10:38-!-fish1209 [~fish1209@74-61-45-246.war.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined #linode
10:38<pedro5>true
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10:38<atourino>exactly... if all else fails... wipe and restart
10:38<atourino>no biggie
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10:38<pedro5>that's not really an option. I've got too much running well after all these months
10:38<@Perihelion>Hah
10:39<atourino>you can get a linode for a day and practice on that if you feel like it
10:39<pedro5>this is just an extra bit that I thought would be nice to have
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10:54<megatron27_>I have a bad connection
10:54<robinetd>I have a bad temper.
10:54<robinetd>Also I'm an alcoholic.
10:54<robinetd>So you know what to get me for my birthday.
10:54<megatron27_>The Secret?
10:55<robinetd>Jack Daniels otherwise I kick you out of my party. :(
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10:55<megatron27_>the funny thing is that wimax signal strength
10:55<megatron27_>doesn't have much to do with your connection speed
10:56<megatron27_>wow, Nagios has a decent looking UI now
10:56<megatron27_>written in PHP
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11:02<d-b>megatron27_: php decent
11:02<d-b>what is this?
11:03-!-mode/#linode [-qqqq *!*@117.195.115.113 *!*@ftp.lcm.org *!*@115.69.250.76 *!*@187.117.156.205] by FloodServ
11:03-!-mode/#linode [-qqqq *!*@220.224.239.44 *!*@113.19.236.7 *!*@123.201.83.99 *!*@201.219.60.185] by FloodServ
11:03-!-mode/#linode [-q *!*@123.201.4.19] by FloodServ
11:03<megatron27_>well, it's just as ugly as the previous version
11:03<jkwood>FloodServ, you spammer.
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11:20<simonbr2>is there a way to untar a file in the current directory without having it untar in a directory named the same as the file
11:20<kronos003>simonbr2: yes, but i cant rememeber what it is off hand
11:21<@mikegrb>lulz
11:21<simonbr2>cant seem to find it lol
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11:22<kronos003>simonbr2: have you looked it up in the man pages and google?
11:23<simonbr2>google yes, man pages i looked but dont understand how they explain things at times
11:26<simonbr2>does it depend how the file is tared?
11:28<Steve^>I have two oh mys, (1) chrome://net-internals/ (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY
11:28<Steve^>I have been missing out
11:40<Steve^>I have stunned you all to silence, or my network is playing tricks on me?
11:41<Deezire>Two-way monologue?
11:45<l0uis>simonbr2: look at the --strip option
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11:51<pedro5>well, I followed all the directions for munin..... nothing is showing yet (nor can I access the page/site), but whatever. need to work on finishing my basement.
11:51<jammer>Are there ircnet servers that accept connections from linode?
11:52-!-pedro5 [~pedro@67-2-110-159.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: pedro5]
11:53<d-b>lolwhat?
11:54<kronos003>jammer: ?
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11:54<kronos003>jammer: how do you mean
11:55<hawk>jammer: Do you have reason to believe they don't?
11:59*atourino has 99 problems but connecting to ircnet aint one
12:00<hawk>atourino: Have you tried? Maybe you actually have 100 problems...
12:00<atourino>I dont have that problem because I dont need to...
12:01<kronos003>i ocassionally run irssi from my linode whenim in a place that blocks irc
12:01<kronos003>works ok for me
12:01<hawk>Yes, in my experience it works fine
12:02<jammer>hawk: I have no clue, just know that a lot of servers don't accept connections other than their customers
12:03<jkwood>While it would not necessarily surprise me, that is one of the dumber things I've heard recently.
12:03<l0uis>jammer: i run irc exclusively from my linode, no issues connecting... ever (as far as I can remember)
12:03<jammer>but do you guys irc in Ircnet? :P
12:03<hawk>not usually
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12:04<hawk>I'm mostly on freenode and oftc
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12:04*atourino is mostly on urmom
12:04<hawk>atourino: urmom is so big she needs her own irc network?
12:05<kronos003>!urmom
12:05<linbot>kronos003: Yo mommas so clumsy, she tore her POSIX ACL! (750:14/2) [ummro]
12:05<l0uis>jammer: i just connected to ircnet via ircnet.choopa.net
12:05<kronos003>!urmom
12:05<linbot>kronos003: Yo mommas so fat, when she turns around, people give her a welcome back party! (808:2/2) [mrmuo]
12:05<d-b>!urdad
12:06<kronos003>!urmom
12:06<linbot>kronos003: Yo mommas so insecure, she gets exploited more than Roundcube! (744:19/0) [muomr]
12:06<d-b>ahhaahahha
12:06<kronos003>ahhhh tech humor
12:06<d-b>!urmum
12:07<linbot>d-b: Yo mommas so nasty she had sex with mikegrb and then kissed pparadis (826:29/12) [roumm]
12:07<d-b>yuck mikegrb
12:07<@mikegrb>lulz
12:07<d-b>lol
12:07<kronos003>!urmom
12:07<linbot>kronos003: Yo momma doesnt like people named kronos003 [ormmu]
12:07<kronos003>!urmum
12:07<linbot>kronos003: Yo momma doesnt like people named kronos003 [ummor]
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12:07<jkwood>jammer: I just logged in to IRCnet no problem.
12:07<d-b>!urmum
12:07<linbot>d-b: Yo mommas so unpleasant she makes mwalling look like Miss Congeniality. (822:42/22) [momur]
12:08<kronos003>!urmom
12:08<jkwood>Please don't abuse the bot.
12:08<linbot>kronos003: Yo momma doesnt like people named kronos003 [mumor]
12:08<jkwood>You can pm him all you want.
12:08<kronos003>but i was having SOOO much fun
12:08<d-b>i like how it is a 'him'
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12:08<kronos003>l ol
12:08-!-d-b is now known as hal9001
12:08<hal9001>im over 9000!
12:09<jkwood>"/msg linbot urmom" Works just as well.
12:09<robinetd><_<
12:09-!-hal9001 is now known as d-b
12:09<robinetd>I leave for an hour and it degrades to a zoo :(
12:09<kronos003>when the cat's away...
12:09<jkwood>d-b: linbot is supposedly a she, but we're having a dispute at the moment.
12:09<HedgeMage>robinetd: that seems to imply that there are times when it isn't a zoo in here
12:09<jkwood>robinetd: I'm pretty sure that was a step up.
12:09*jkwood ducks
12:09<d-b>jkwood: 'they'
12:10*atourino gooses
12:10*robinetd swines.
12:10<robinetd>Flying pigs!
12:10<atourino>or should it be... geese?
12:10*d-b magic.domagic()
12:10<kronos003>Fly My prettys! FLY like the WIND!!!
12:10<robinetd>I'm eating these busch's grillin beans.
12:11<robinetd>They taste like enchiladas without the shell. It's like an orgasm in my mouth.
12:11<kronos003>tell me you are a girl - only girls are alowed to say stuff like that
12:11<robinetd>go away mister sexist.
12:11<kronos003>l ol sorry
12:12<robinetd>You also have horrible grammar and spelling.
12:12<jkwood>HIS GRAMMAR IS A CLASSY LADY YOU TAKE THAT BACK
12:12<d-b>MY GRAMMER IS PERFEC THAONKX
12:12<d-b>k thx bia
12:12<robinetd>jkwood: She sexed me the first date.
12:12<kronos003>heh
12:12<robinetd>Classy my ass \o/
12:13<jkwood>We don't need to know about your strange fantasies, thanks.
12:13<robinetd>jkwood: Tell that to his grammar.
12:13<atourino>the standard for classy is reaching new lows today...
12:13<d-b>inb4 rape by grammar!
12:13<megatron27_>just went through a short inkscape tutorial
12:13<megatron27_>you need to actually understand some theory to use it
12:13<jkwood>megatron27_: Thank you for that bastion of reasonable thought in a sea of... toxic waste, I think.
12:13<kronos003>ya know, sitting on this chan while doing what i have to do really makes my day
12:14<d-b>'theory'
12:14<d-b>you keep saying that word, i don't hink you know what it means!
12:14<robinetd>Do you?
12:14<jkwood>megatron27_: Well, you can eyeball it, but knowing some mathematics makes it easier to be precise.
12:15<jkwood>That's actually part of what makes vector graphics so apppealing.
12:15<d-b>2+2=5
12:15<d-b>./sleep &
12:16<Kenny>We're talking vector graphics? :O
12:17<jkwood>It's a semi-relevant topic for once.
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12:18<Kenny>jkwood: Semi relevant? How? Processed by linodes?
12:18<robinetd>while(gassy = 1) { fart(5); return(0); }
12:19<megatron27_>yeah, it's a complex beast
12:19<robinetd>And since I didn't decrement gassy, enjoy your infinite farts.
12:19<Kenny>robinetd: I think you intended to make an infinite loop here, making sure you finished farting, but that only allows you to fart once in your life. :<
12:19<amitz>robinetd: I need to see fart() before feeling sure it will terminate.
12:19<Kenny>robinetd: Not infinite, you call return() :P
12:19<Kenny>therefore, fart is only called once
12:19<megatron27_>why even put it in a loop in the first place
12:19<robinetd>Kenny: with the argument of 5.
12:19<Kenny>assing gassy is one, which is not even the case
12:19<Kenny>'cause you never define gassy
12:20<robinetd>Kenny: It's called a program fragment, dork. :(
12:20<Ovron>he did, in the construct :p = not ==
12:20<megatron27_>I actually gave that as an interview question once
12:20<robinetd>SHUP
12:20<amitz>I really need to examine your fart.
12:20<megatron27_>I had if (x = 1) and if (x == 1) and asked the candidate to tell me what was wrong....
12:21*robinetd farts in a bottle and gives amitz the bottle.
12:21<robinetd>Enjoy.
12:21<Kenny>Ovron: Oh, right, I actually missed that...
12:21<Kenny>dammit :P
12:21<megatron27_>the candidate argued that both would compile, so neither was wrong
12:21<amitz>robinetd: thank you for your cooperation.
12:21<megatron27_>which is of course correct but really pedantic of him :-)
12:21<Kenny>Well, if they're WRONG depends on what you want it to DO
12:21<Kenny>:P
12:21<dominikh>pedantic programmers are the better kind ;)
12:21<robinetd>megatron27_: So did you hire him?
12:21<megatron27_>nope
12:21<robinetd>loser.
12:22<megatron27_>well, he got a bunch of other things go
12:22<amitz>megatron27_: he didn't pass the smell test?
12:22<megatron27_>hey, I gave him full points for that question
12:22<robinetd>You can't even get a sentence in English correct and you're judging him. :(
12:22<megatron27_>s/go/wrong/
12:22<jkwood>Kenny: Vector Graphics can be scaled without losing precision or pixelating - using them on the websites you serve from your Linode allows your website to be viewed in any resolution without it looking particularly different than you wanted.
12:22<jkwood>Therefore, relevant.
12:22*robinetd goes back to his beans.
12:23<@mikegrb>lulz
12:23<megatron27_>lol jkwood
12:23<Kenny>jkwood: That way, and yeah, I know scalable vector graphics - I <3 SVG
12:24<jkwood>If you're really clever, you can write a script to display all textual information as SVG graphics, which further ensures a similar experience for all resolutions.
12:25<jkwood>I am naturally far too much of a slacker to take it that far.
12:26<Kenny>Yeah, writing your entire site in SVG might be pushing it as well. :P
12:26<megatron27_>this tutorial was about creating a 3-d icon
12:26<Ovron>html2svg - go
12:26<megatron27_>yeah, in the future, just use canvas for everything
12:26<Ovron>oh there actually is a html2svg ... probably bad :<
12:27<megatron27_>that way you don't have to worry about the differences in HTML and CSS across browsers....
12:28<amitz>just pdf your site.
12:29<amitz>let them see what you wnt them to see in your own term.
12:29<megatron27_>just PDF your site, and embed a Scribd widget, which you have to login via Facebook connect to view, and then type in a captcha which requires that you have the Flash plugin installed
12:29<jkwood>Ironically, PDF isn't as universal as I had hoped. There are certain pdf interpreters that show it differently.
12:30<jkwood>(Ironic because I used to give the advice to students to save their resume as PDF rather than hoping their word doc went through properly.)
12:30<amitz>megatron27_: that will score you enough projects for a few <insert time period>!
12:30<Steve^>pngs are accurate, but the colour on their screen might be wrong, so you're best off printing it out
12:31<megatron27_>oooh, and the Flash plugin communicates with some ActiveX controls that require a specific service pack of Windows XP to run correctly
12:31<Steve^>Over here they like CVs/resumes to be .doc so the agency can change it
12:31<megatron27_>requires**
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12:31<amitz>Steve^: oh? you want them to change it? Isn't it risky?
12:32<megatron27_>yeah, head hunters will want to remove your contact information
12:32<amitz>megatron27_: allow me to make you our ********** solution consultant!
12:32<jkwood>This is for directly dealing with companies, not going through head hunting organizations.
12:32<hobot>dont forget the plugin which adjusts their monitor color profile
12:33<jammer>l0uis: thanks for that :)
12:33<amitz>hobot: which will eventually induce cross-selling! I like that!
12:34<Kenny>I know a few places where you recieve a fine for using .doc... :P
12:34<Kenny>and it's over $100
12:34<megatron27_>Kenny, communist countries?
12:34<amitz>but how do they fine you?
12:34<Kenny>megatron27_: No, some universities like DTU give you a fine if you used closed formats in some of their departments
12:35<Steve^>amitz, I don't, but you don't get much choice - my last agency removed the link to my website
12:35<Kenny>if you send a report in a non-open standard, you're fined.
12:35<megatron27_>I'd claim that there was a macro virus on my computer that was sending out word documents.
12:35<Steve^>but they want to make it difficult for the company to cut the agency out
12:36<Kenny>megatron27_: You're not a student at that end of DTU if you can let such virus go unnoticed. :P
12:37<megatron27_>urgh... a lot of agencies just run searches against job sites for you
12:37<@mikegrb>ruflz
12:37<Kenny>megatron27_: rofl.
12:38<megatron27_>and their false positive rate is just as high
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12:40<majdal>Hi everyone - i'm trying to deploy a django site on apache using mod_wsgi and virtualenv. I'm getting an apache error for line 19 of my django.wsgi file: http://pastebin.com/aJnTrvS6
12:41<majdal>any idea on what's wrong?
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12:42<majdal>more specifically, it's an SyntaxError: invalid syntax
12:46<majdal>hello, echo echooo echhooooo echoooooooo
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12:47<robinetd>!urmom
12:47<linbot>robinetd: Yo mommas so clumsy, she tore her POSIX ACL! (750:14/2) [mrumo]
12:47*jkwood has a look
12:48*amitz finished the look
12:49<jkwood>Oh, I am so terrible at Python. That looks like a horrid mess, though I'm sure it's probably close to fine.
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12:51<majdal>sigh...
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12:53<jkwood>Bah... closed the tab, and now pastebin gives me a "heavy load" error. Could you by chance repaste at
12:53<jkwood>!p
12:53<linbot>http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel
12:54<amitz>majdal: I know nothing about apache and mod_wsgi/virtualenv . Is the error from apache or python? that looks like python syntax?
12:55<Steve^>I want a wiki where I can put the data into dropbox, but I'm struggling for options
12:55<amitz>python is usually more verbose? what does it exactly say?
12:58<jkwood>Hmm... looks like pastebin.com has been attracting quite a bit of DDoS lately. That sucks.
13:02<majdal>jkwood: http://dpaste.com/433890/
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13:03<majdal>amitz: the error is from the apache logs
13:05<jkwood>Hmm... Everything looks like it should in wsgi. Have you configured Apache to handle it?
13:05<jkwood>I found this: http://jmoiron.net/blog/deploying-django-mod-wsgi-virtualenv/
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13:15<hobot>thats what I linked yesterday :)
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13:20<majdal>kwood hobot i did configure apache
13:21<majdal>i'll post the config file
13:24<majdal>here it is : http://dpaste.com/433941/
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13:26<h3lix>is it just me, or is the .org registry down?
13:26<h3lix>whois and registrar gateway
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13:31<jkwood>Hmm... looks right. =(
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13:36<linbot>New news from forums: Google.com being redirected to google.com.hk on linode. in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6688>
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13:48<BarkerJr>maybe the DHS is busy upgrading their controls
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13:55<h3lix>DHS?
13:56<Kenny>Yes, the DNS itself is busy doing other things, so it doesn't feel like servicing them.
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13:59<BarkerJr>the DHS is the guys who accidently shutdown 84,000 domains the other day
14:00<BarkerJr>http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-shuts-down-84000-websites-by-mistake-110216/
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14:06<Kenny>Hahahah
14:07<Kenny>I love the US now. "Woops!"
14:10<h3lix>well, it's back up now
14:10<h3lix>but it was definitely down for a solid 2 hours
14:10<h3lix>EPP and everything
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14:42<disable>I was wonder if anyone could answer why when i ssh tunnel through my vps and attempt to go to google it sends me to google.com.hk and not my regular google.com. It use to work fine a few months ago?
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14:48<BarkerJr>geoip for linode is hk
14:49<Kenny>Which datacenter?
14:51<disable>hmm
14:51<disable>the location of mine is suppose to be TX usa
14:51<Kenny>The IP'S of my linodes all point to the UK with geoip
14:51<Kenny>same with my dns servers supplies by it
14:55<disable>so this being said thats normal?
14:57<Kenny>Not sure, when using links, I end up on .com.hk too
14:57<Kenny>but it doesn't seem to be a geoip issue...
14:58<disable>yeah that concerns me :/
14:59<BarkerJr>what concerns me is that companies like google rely on flawed geoip
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15:02<Kenny>BarkerJr: If they do rely on GeoIP databases for this, then yes
15:03<Kenny>but the odd thing is that I just resolved all IP's related to my linodes, and they all resolve to UK
15:03<Kenny>yet Google goes to the hong kong site..
15:03<disable>exactly
15:04<disable>makes me not truust the networking for tunneling now
15:04<disable>who would know whats going on?
15:04<Kenny>Oh, no, the *network* is safe
15:04<Kenny>I have a feeling google just did a small brainfart here
15:05<BarkerJr>just a few months ago, china hijacked all the BGP records for 15 minutes, right?
15:06<disable>hah
15:06<Kenny>China's government are asses
15:06<disable>yeah i thought this coul dbe a simialr attack but maybe just a glinch who knows
15:06<Kenny>But if you want to avoid redirection, just go to google.com/ncr
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15:31<swaj>My daughter just got her first bath (she's only a few days old) and she's very, very unhappy about it :P
15:31<dominikh>I remember being unhappy about baths
15:32<Kenny>Me too
15:32<dominikh>Kenny: last week doesn't count.
15:32<Kenny>dominikh: IT DOES! I STILL REMEMBER LAST WEEK! D:<
15:32<Kenny>That actually reminds me...
15:33*Kenny smells armpits
15:33<Kenny>Nah, I can go for a few more weeks. :3
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15:33<sirpengi>swaj: my son loves baths
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15:34<Kenny>sirpengi: Your boy loves baths? How old is he again?
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15:34*Kenny can't get things to add up
15:34<sirpengi>Kenny: 5 and a half months
15:35<sirpengi>he wasn't happy when the hospital people gave him a bath
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15:36<sirpengi>but he enjoyed all the others ones when we got him home
15:37<Kenny>A weird child indeed. :P
15:37<Deezire>I wish i still was unhappy about baths. Now i usually end up being way too late because i never can get out of the shower.
15:42<Kenny>Oh, I'm not unhappy about baths, but I'm not longing to get a shower unless I've worked *very* hard. I just do it because of hygiene
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15:45<linbot>New news from forums: Slackware Minimal Install in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6742>
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15:47*Kenny is still a kid I suppose
15:47<randallman>I usually have work problem epihpanies in the shower :0
15:47<@Perihelion>I've done that
15:47<randallman>'Oh, we're going to try THIS next' type shit
15:47<@Perihelion>I had one just now
15:48<dominikh>I have those while bathing, they're awesome
15:48<@Perihelion>I obviously can't tell you what it's in reference to, but you should know that it's amazing.
15:48<randallman>yeah you need a TS SCI to know about what goes down in Absecon!
15:48<Praefectus>does it involve ice cream?
15:48<randallman>:-)
15:48<Kenny>Yeah, I have a way better approach, I get those while presented with the problem, and therefore don't need to take a bath to get the epiphany ;D
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15:49<Kenny>Fast problem solving + bath avoided = WIN+WIN! ;D
15:49<dominikh>not for your surroundings...
15:49<@Perihelion>randallman: I actually have a TS D:
15:49<@Perihelion>But it's unrelated to Linode
15:50<@Perihelion>Actually it may be expired now
15:50<dominikh>TS?
15:50<Praefectus>top secret clearance
15:50<dominikh>oh
15:50<Kenny>dominikh: I'm doing it in favor of evolution. The weak pass out and die as I walk by, cleaning out in the genepool. When I'm done with my evil plan, only people with great endurance to smells of armpits will be left!
15:51<Praefectus>or the people without a sense of smell
15:51<dominikh>or gross people
15:51<dominikh>but he's indeed doing it in favor of evolution: he won't get to reproduce.
15:51<Kenny>Praefectus: No no, not sense of smell, that doesn't matter. It's the actual gasses that make them pass out and die.
15:51<@mikegrb>lulz
15:51<Kenny>lol, I DO actually bathe, and I don't allow myself to smell, don't worry
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15:52<Kenny>I'm just not weird, and looking forward to lying in a bowl of water, it's just something I need to get over with :P
15:52<dominikh>I don't have a shower, only a bathtub, and that sucks :<
15:53<Kenny>I have a tub with shower thing
15:53<Kenny>I usually take a shower
15:53<Kenny>damn, wrong word
15:53<dominikh>yeah, that doesn't work here
15:53<Kenny>I meant I usually take a bath in the tub
15:53<dominikh>..
15:53<Kenny>But that's more a habit thing, 'cause we used that as kids, and just kept using the tub, never moved on to showers :P
15:54<Kenny>why change habits if they work? ;D
15:54<dominikh>showers are faster.
15:54<Kenny>Nah, I can work while the tub is filled, and work while it's emptied
15:54<dominikh>so? bathing still takes longer
15:54<Kenny>and you don't have to lie in a tub for 2 hours to be clean
15:54<dominikh>I can't get done in under 20 minutes in the tub
15:54<Kenny>no it doesn't, I can get it done in 5-10 minutes usually, without rushing
15:55<dominikh>(my old record was 4:42, but I had short hair back then and everything :<)
15:55<Praefectus>but your sittin in dirty water
15:55<Kenny>Well, that's because you're anti-moving, and a tub requires you to move around. ;)
15:55<dominikh>pff
15:55<dominikh>at least you can sit in a tub :>
15:56<Kenny>Praefectus: Yes, and you're breathing dirty air.
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15:57<Praefectus>the point of 'bathing' is to get clean, so if your sitting in dirty water how are you getting clean?
15:58<MJCS>fart bubbles
15:58<MJCS>nuff said
15:58<Kenny>I'm basically already clean, I need the water to remove dead skin cells as well as sweat
15:58<Kenny>MJCS: Free jaccuzi! <3
15:58<MJCS>yay
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15:59<dominikh>Praefectus: soap, that's all the magic.
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16:00<Kenny>Praefectus: Dirt goes into the water, and you dry off the water when you get out. I don't see the problem. Soap is awesome enough to bind to greases, making you able to simply dry it off
16:00<Praefectus>if you think so
16:01<dominikh>well, obviously millions of people are dirty, maybe even your closest friends!
16:01<Kenny>Well, it works for quite a large part of the world population, including me. :)
16:01<dominikh>you should avoid them, fcking bathers
16:01<Praefectus>showers are cleaner is all im sayin
16:01<Kenny>Not necessarily
16:01<dominikh>any scientific proof? :>
16:02<dominikh>do you know how soap works? binding to fat and water?
16:02<Praefectus>common sense maybe?
16:02<Kenny>The soap has my time to catch the grease, and the water *automatically* reaches everywhere
16:02<dominikh>common sense used to be that the earth is flat...
16:02<Kenny>Shower, however, does not.
16:02<Kenny>Unless you shower in a very very weird position...
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16:03<randallman>The Early Theory of a Round Earth
16:03<randallman>The truth of the matter is that ever since Pythagoras first postulated that the Earth must be a sphere way back in 570 BC, the theory has been quite alive among scientists, and not nearly as taboo as we may have been led to believe.
16:04<randallman>From: http://www.suite101.com/content/from-a-flat-to-a-round-earth-a45824
16:04<randallman>(McPhee, I., 2008, par. 5)
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16:13<jkwood>A more correct statement would be "Common sense used to be that the world sat on the back of a large turtle or giant."
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16:13<jkwood>The flat earth nonsense avoids documented historical evidence.
16:15<Kenny>The world is balancing on the giant black turtoise.
16:16<Praefectus>whys it always something huge? whos to say the earth isnt balanced on the head of a pin?
16:16<Kenny>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
16:16<Kenny>But what's BENEATH the head of the pin?
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16:16<Kenny>A giant black turtoise.
16:16<dominikh>urmom
16:16<Praefectus>the shaft of the pin
16:16<Kenny>.. And then a giant black turtoise.
16:17<Praefectus>and then urmom
16:17<dominikh>urmom IS the giant black turtoise
16:17<Kenny>dominikh: urmom IS a giant black turtoise
16:17<Kenny>I was sayin that D:
16:17<dominikh>which, fyi, is spelled "tortoise"
16:17<Kenny>dominikh: You typo'd that yourself, so it doesn't count. :3
16:17<dominikh>no, I copied you
16:18<dominikh>then I looked it up
16:18<dominikh>and then I corrected you
16:19<Kenny>One mistake doesn't make up for the other.
16:19<Kenny>;)
16:19<Kenny>Just because _I_ kill a man, it doesn't mean you should do so too.
16:19<Kenny>You can kill a woman instead.
16:19<InitHello>but it's fun!
16:19<dominikh>Kenny: so you can revive her? my ass.
16:19<Kenny>exactly <3
16:19<HedgeMage>Is this what you guys do all day?
16:20<HedgeMage>It's Saturday -- go out and play or something.
16:20<InitHello>it's one of the things
16:20<dominikh>even a murderer has to rest...
16:20<Praefectus>im waiting for the movers to get here
16:20*Kenny has TWO certificates in the full first aid cirriculum, including specialized trafic disasters and electrical disasters, no clue why I needed a second one... stupid law
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16:20<Praefectus>since they called and said theyd be here today
16:20*Kenny thinks it obviously means he's TWICE as good at CPR as everyone else, and should therefore clearly get to revive the hot woman.
16:21<InitHello>and what if my day job involves being outside all the time? Would I not want to stay indoors when I'm off work?
16:21<Kenny>HedgeMage: May I remind you that we're in different timezones, and that you're online as well. :)
16:21<Praefectus>Kenny: who said he was gonna kill a hot woman?
16:21<Deezire>STOP MURDERING INNOCENT BYTES!
16:22<Deezire>kill all hum^C^C^C^C^C
16:22<dominikh>▄︻┻┳═一
16:22<Kenny>Praefectus: He said I was talking about him?
16:23<Steve^>\o/ don't shoot!
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16:23<Kenny>I said just because I kill a man, not that I'm *ONLY* going to kill men.
16:23<Kenny>I'm just not going to try to REVIVE the men.
16:23<Kenny>Which reminds me, it's awesome, we're instructed in only using 2 fingers to support head and chin when doing CPR, so it doesn't look like we're trying to choke the person we're helping. :P
16:23<InitHello>+++ATH
16:24<linbot>New news from forums: Installing Webmin ....("help!") in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6602>
16:24<Steve^>How many chest pumps between breaths?
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16:24<InitHello>wouldn't it be funny if you typed that, and someone pinged out
16:24<InitHello>Steve^: new research is suggesting that rescue breathing might actually be counterproductive
16:25<Steve^>best to just let them die?
16:25<InitHello>no, best to just pump the chest
16:25<Steve^>or they'll die faster?
16:26<Kenny>Steve^: we do wither 15, or 30
16:26<Steve^>depending on?
16:26<Kenny>Nowadays, 30 pumps, 2 inflations of lungs, 30 pumps, ...
16:26<Kenny>Steve^: The updated first aid guidelines say 30
16:26<Kenny>but 15/2 are widely in use
16:26<Steve^>1 pump per second?
16:27<Kenny>no, 100 pumps per minute, so slightly faster than that
16:27<Steve^>ok
16:27<Kenny>... we used "Another one bites the dust" as metronome. :P
16:27<InitHello>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_resuscitation#Compression_only
16:27<InitHello>that's delightfully morbid, Kenny
16:28<Kenny>I know, but the bass is incredibly easy to remember and follow as metronome, and it's exactly 100bpm
16:28<Steve^>just don't hum it out loud
16:29<Kenny>Oh, I'll sing it off the top of my lungs, and hope for a singer to come along
16:29<Kenny>'cause it would be an awesome way to start music video cover of that song :P
16:29<Deezire>Kenny: usually getting circulation is the only correct thing to do. You're usually out of luck without a heartstarter :-/
16:29<InitHello>Deezire: all CPR does is circulate the blood, it's very rare for it to actually restart the heart
16:29<Kenny>Deezire: You still need to *maintain* circulation until a heartstarter arrives. Otherwise the person it TOTALLY screwed :P
16:30<Deezire>exactly
16:30<InitHello>paramedics and doctors will then do whatever needs doing for the heart to start saying badonkadonk again
16:30<Deezire>But some poeple obesess about 15/2, 30/10 and whatever.
16:30<Kenny>CPR *MIGHT* restart the heart, but it's only common in drowning accidents, electrocution, and when doing CPR on babies
16:30<Steve^>So is the plan to actually squeeze the heart?
16:30<Kenny>Yeah, 15/2, 30/4 and 30/2 are the ones I've heard about
16:30<InitHello>yes, Steve^
16:30<Kenny>30/2 is the new guidelines
16:30<Deezire>Basically what we learned was that if a heartstarter was unavaliable or a long drive away you should just focus on other people, if any.
16:30<Steve^>So you have to press pretty hard then?
16:30<InitHello>CPR compresses the heart, and the built-in flow control moves blood around
16:31<Kenny>Steve^: Yes, you squeeze it hard enough to actually force the blood around, and just wait for someone to come with a defibrillator
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16:31<Steve^>like how hard?
16:31<sirpengi>why don't you just take a class
16:31<Steve^>like punching them?
16:31<sirpengi>I don't want you performing CPR on anyone from stuff you learned from people in IRC
16:31<Deezire>You may end up breaking ribs.
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16:32<Kenny>Steve^: Rest the wrist between the nipples, stretch your elbows, and press with the torso.
16:32<InitHello>Deezire: quite frankly, I'd rather have broken ribs and be alive
16:32<Steve^>teehee
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16:32<Kenny>No punching, you have to transfer energy, not absorb it in the ribs
16:32<Deezire>But a class is usually free and then you get to test on a doll, as sirpengi pointed out
16:32<Kenny>Oh, this is paid and legally required
16:32<Deezire>InitHello: ofcourse
16:32<sirpengi>I paid for my CPR training when I did it
16:32<InitHello>Kenny: just above the sternum, right?
16:32<Steve^>Kenny, oh of course, I'm just trying to get a measure of how hard
16:32<sirpengi>money went to the red cross though so I guess that's alright
16:33<Deezire>We had a 50 hour course in the military.
16:33<Kenny>I got first aid through my education as electrician, and this is related to me taking drivers license (you need to have a first aid course to do that in denmark)
16:33<Deezire>was pure hell staying awake. Over 4 days!
16:33<Steve^>sirpengi, no cpr is better than IRC cpr then?
16:33<Kenny>InitHello: Yeah, we just use the nipples as quick point of reference. Just dead center
16:33<sirpengi>Steve^: I'd say yes
16:33<Kenny>You can guide based on the sternum too though
16:33<InitHello>what if you can't find the nipples? Pour really cold water on their chest?
16:33<@mikegrb>lulz
16:33<Steve^>lol
16:34<Kenny>Steve^: Do as I said on a table, and push with your torso. You can't really hit too hard i that position, as long as you rest your wrists
16:34<Kenny>InitHello: All clothing of the torso is to be removed prior to any CPR
16:34<InitHello>\o/
16:34<Steve^>\y/
16:34<Steve^>o
16:34<Kenny>No exceptions, no matter the gender
16:34<teyus>how i choose my server by datacenter location?
16:34<HedgeMage>Kenny: Yes, but I got stuck working today...I doubt that's true of everyone here.
16:34<InitHello>teyus: you get the option when setting up a new linods
16:35<InitHello>or a linode
16:35<Deezire>Kenny: oh, there are exceptions :p
16:35<Kenny>HedgeMage: I was supposed to work on a scaffolding today, but I had to take the damn 7 hour traffic related first aid class
16:35<HedgeMage>:(
16:35<Deezire>But that's more army-cpr-related.
16:36<Kenny>Deezire: Yes, if you need camouflage, or is in extremely cold environments, you might need some cover
16:37<Kenny>But, by keeping the torso clean, you can easily see the torso moving when inflating the lungs, and you can easily locate the correct point for heart massage
16:37<teyus>what datancenter is better for me? how i check this?
16:37<Kenny>As well as have the torso ready for a defibrillator
16:37<Kenny>teyus: Where are you?
16:37<Kenny>!speedtest
16:37<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
16:37<Deezire>teyus: ping them
16:37<Steve^>you never shock a flatline
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16:38<Kenny>Steve^: Yes, actually, you would, and it would help if someone remembered to do the CPR to maintain circulation
16:38<spkitty>man why have i had russians trying to hack my wordpress for the past 2 days
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16:39<Kenny>The public defibrillators measure heart activity themselves, and decides when, and if, to defibrillate. They then give voice instruction to whoever is aiding them.
16:39<Deezire>hacking, or "hacking" aka. brute force?
16:39<Kenny>But it will shock if the heart is not pumping
16:39<spkitty>trying to brute force an admin account that doesn't even exist
16:39<Kenny>spkitty: It's always russians. ;)
16:39<spkitty>they get locked out every 4 tries anyway
16:39<spkitty>but keep using new IPs
16:40<Deezire>then it's just scanner traffic, block it
16:40<Kenny>teyus: You can check performance on teh speedtest link, and you can try to ping the datacenters.
16:40<Kenny>that way, you can check which performs the best from your location
16:40<teyus>hm, i'm from Brazil
16:40<Deezire>ususally the one geographically closes to you then
16:40<Steve^>Kenny, not according to this guy http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1291
16:40<Kenny>I would guess on UK then...
16:41<Kenny>Steve^: Yes, well, it's not defibrillation if the heart isn't *fibrillating*
16:42<Deezire>you have a 3% chance of a person without heartbeat to have it restarted with CPR. Atleast that is what we learned.
16:42<Steve^>Kenny, I only said you don't shock a flatline
16:44<jkwood>I would tend to think that Texas would fit better.
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16:44<jkwood>That, or Atlanta.
16:44<Kenny>Steve^: Yes, you wouldn't do it on a hospital, they only do that in movies, but, problem is that when we're in the field, we're only likely to have a public defibrillator, and our hands. They check for themselves if the heart is fibrillating, and will deliver the shock by itself, but other than that, we can only do CPR until a rescue team arrives... And CPR will only work for so long
16:44<jkwood>Brazil is two oceans away from London.
16:45<Kenny>So, defibrillation will be attempted on a flatline.
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16:46<Deezire>It's also hard to confirm a flatline "in the field"
16:46<Deezire>As the pulse may be so slow and so low that it's hardly noticeable
16:46<Kenny>Deezire: Yeah, but as I said, the defibrillators have builtin heart monitors, and actually don't like being ordered around. They order YOU around.
16:47<Kenny>Literally, they have a really annoying female voice which tells you what to do after you turn it on.
16:47<MJCS>so has the botnet calmed down?
16:47<Deezire>that's the only sane thing to do, most people have no clue what do do in emergency, me included.
16:47<Kenny>MJCS: Yeah, I turned it off-I mean, yes, it calmed down, whatever caused it! :)
16:47<MJCS>hehe
16:48<Kenny>Deezire: Of course, I wouldn't trust a random person a defibrillator either. Most people think that having watched a movie is enough... problem being they don't work like they do in movies. If you use them like there, you'll just grill the skin and muscles of the chest
16:51<MJCS>nom nom
16:51<Steve^>mmm bbq human
16:51<MJCS>BrAiNs
16:51<Kenny>nah, not brains, just grilled skin with chest hair
16:52<chesty>I've learnt a lot from mash and er, you can crack a chest with a scaple, for example
16:52<Kenny>(The electrodes have 2 configurations, one being left shoulder, and right middle of the torso, so the shock goes *into* the chest. The other is just on both sides of the torso, around the chest. Neither are used in movies...)
16:53<chesty>left shoulder middle of torso is how they do it in er
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16:53<chesty>mr bean did it a little differently
16:54<teyus>256mb for swap is good?
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16:54<Steve^>They never the paddles in Theme Hospital, so I'm not even sure it's a real medical procedure
16:55<BarkerJr>true
16:55<Deezire>Bubblehead, a serious disease!
16:56<Deezire>An opensource project of Theme hospital exists, just fyi!
16:57<BarkerJr>what?
16:57<BarkerJr>where?
16:57<Kenny>Steve^: They never the paddles? What does that mean?
16:58<dominikh>I accidentally the whole paddle
16:58<jkwood>Kenny: Haven't you ever the paddles?
16:58<Steve^>use!
16:58<Deezire>BarkerJr: http://code.google.com/p/corsix-th/
16:58<Steve^>Deezire, indeed, I happen to work on it
16:58<Deezire>Steve^: ah, awesome!
16:59<Deezire>I had a nergasm when beta 4 was released, havnt looked at it since
16:59<Steve^>will commit for Linodes
16:59<Deezire>hm, no, beta 5.
16:59<Deezire>And then i found Open RA and was stuck playing it MP
16:59<Steve^>no more betas yet
16:59<Deezire>I even had to dust of my old CD's with TH on them
16:59<Kenny>jkwood: It's rare that I do :P
17:00<Steve^>oh my lord
17:00<Steve^>Open RA!!!!
17:00<Deezire>hehe
17:00<Deezire>Steve^: it's pretty awesome with 1080p resolution >D
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17:00<Kenny>Steve^: We don't use paddles with the defibrillators we use, they're flexible paper electrodes with conducting glue on them. :P
17:00<Steve^>is it playable?
17:00<Deezire>oh yes
17:00<Deezire>even cross plattform
17:01<Deezire>We used Windows, OSX and Linux in one match.
17:01<Deezire>Worked flawless
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17:01<Steve^>wow
17:01<Steve^>need original game files?
17:02<Deezire>well, there are some issues on the osx version where it gets stuck, but you unstuck it with mashing space a few times
17:02<Deezire>nupe
17:02<Deezire>In windows it's pretty straight forward, in osx/linux you need to point it where they are (downloadable)
17:02<Steve^>But you said no
17:03<Deezire>they supply them
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17:03<Deezire>but on osx/linux you need to manually download them from them and put them in a certain folder
17:03<Deezire>well, atleast you had to
17:03<Deezire>been some time since last time i tried
17:03<Steve^>I have the RA isos anyway, as EA released them for free
17:04<Steve^>oh dear, it has opened across all 4 of my desktops
17:05<Steve^>(It downloads the files itself)
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17:06<Deezire>are you working on open gfx for crosixth, Steve^?
17:07<Steve^>shame Unhandled Exception: System.IO.FileNotFoundException: File not found: redalert.mix
17:07<d-b>!java
17:07<Steve^>Deezire, not any time soon - going to be one hell of a job
17:07<d-b>erh
17:08<d-b>!enterprise coder
17:09<Deezire>Steve^: yeah, it took openttd some time
17:09<vraa_>openttd is awesome
17:10<Steve^>Deezire, and trains are small, can be done by different people. Imagine gettint a consistent art direction on all the doctor graphicr
17:10<Deezire>hehe, true
17:11<BarkerJr>Steve^: when will you have dungeon keeper open? :)
17:13<Steve^>The code is completely rewritten so there isn't much crossover I'm afraid
17:15<BarkerJr>ah well, those are my two favourite bullfrog games that i miss
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17:33<Praefectus>ribbit
17:33<randallman>cheeeeerp
17:34<sirpengi>I think I'm getting sick of directed graphs
17:34<Praefectus>as opposed to undirected graphs?
17:35<sirpengi>as opposed to working on something else unrelated to graphs altogether
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17:36<jkwood>I love directed graphs.
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17:42*Daevien jabs microsoft in the face. how frigging hard woudl it to have been to give me the phoen activation link on my win server 2008r2 vm instead of a vague error message that made me hunt for the exact reason & then searchign to get the stupid phone activation window command. grr. makes me like linux even more as i fight with microsloth methods
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17:45<p33r>[6~[6~[6~/whois disable
17:45<p33r>er
17:46<wycks>how does one seperate multiple rsa keys in something like authorized_keys, line breaks?
17:46<randallman>yes
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17:54<ido>newline
17:54<Steve^>BarkerJr, I'd quite like to play DK without the impossible levels
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18:26<jammer>how much bandwidth do the servers have? is it 1GB divided among all the nodes in the machine?
18:26<jammer>Gigabit even
18:26<Praefectus>each linode is capped at 50mbps
18:26<jammer>ah
18:26<@ericoc>50 Mbps outbound cap, no inbound cap
18:26<Praefectus>ya, what he said
18:26<@ericoc>:p
18:27<jammer>does the traffic cap apply only to outbound traffic?
18:27<@ericoc>yes
18:27<@ericoc>hosts have a minimum of gigabit connectivity to the Internets
18:27<Marius>nice, newark has an intl airport :o
18:27<Ovron>intertubal transfer system
18:28<Praefectus>so does AC Marius
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18:28<@ericoc>Marius: and there's two more airports near nyc!
18:29<Marius>I'm planning for when I sneak into linodia to oogle my nodes >=)
18:29<Praefectus>armed guards, have fun with thayt
18:30<Marius>I'm very very sneaky ;(
18:30<Marius>*;)
18:30<@ericoc>datacenter security is pretty intense
18:30<@stan_theman>Marius is pretty intense though
18:30<Marius>^
18:30<@stan_theman>so I don't know
18:30<@ericoc>true
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18:30<Marius>stan has it all figured out u c!
18:30<@stan_theman>:D
18:30<Marius>Perihelion! stan is hitting on me again
18:30<Marius>I'm scared =(
18:31<elkingrey>I'm currently migrating my website from Bravehost to my Linode server. Instead of using phpmyadmin, I am going to learn to do things the manly way, and restore my databases using the mysql prompt. I'm reading the chapter on restoring databases in the linode library and I don't see where it says to put the database. So, I need to upload my database to my server first before I can restore it. Can I put it anywhere I like?
18:31<Marius>elkingrey, yes anywhere will be fine
18:31<Marius>although somewhere non-readable by http is preferred
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18:31<@caker>all you need is a mysql client cli running somewhere (on your local machine?) since it can talk to remote mysql servers
18:32<@caker>or, upload the .sql text file to your Linode, and run the mysql client there to import it in
18:32<Marius>I think the library article tells you to disable remote logins
18:32<bob2>I'd suggest doing it on uour linode, you don't want a connection blip to make you have to start over
18:32<Marius>so the 2nd option is what he's goign for I suspect
18:33<Marius>airline fare is so expensive =(
18:33<tjfontaine>Marius: ask caker to fly you
18:33<elkingrey>Can the uploaded file be in gzip format, or do I need to unzip it first?
18:33<bob2>that is fine
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18:34<bob2>it's just a file
18:34<Marius>tjfontaine: brilliant plan!
18:34<Marius>I heard someone else did that, and they flew over iceland and stopped ot look at geysirs
18:34<Marius>caker, can we? I've always wanted to stand in the showers of a geysir with a manly man such as yoru self <3
18:36<jkwood>I don't see "shirtless" anywhere in that sentence. Is it possible we're getting better?
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18:37<Marius>I thought it was implied?
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18:45<elkingrey>In my case, I am assuming the "CREATE DATABASE customer;" command is the command I will use to create the names for each of my two databases that I am restoring? Do they need to be the same name as the databases, or does it not matter?
18:46<bob2>likely the dump includes the create database lines already
18:46<jkwood>If you're importing a dump, there's no need to create the databases.
18:46<elkingrey>The dump came from Bravehost
18:47<jkwood>That's the joy of mysql dumps - they include the db and table creation statements in them, no matter where they come from.
18:47<elkingrey>No need to create user or grant privileges either?
18:49<Ovron>open it up and have a look what is in it; if it is a text dump, it will be easy enough to see
18:49<jkwood>I believe those are kept in another db.
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18:49<bob2>depends if you dumped 'mysql' databae or not
18:50<jkwood>Yeah, that's the one.
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18:51<elkingrey>What I don't get is the last line where it tells me to restore the dump, I can understanding putting the file name in, but I'm not giving it a location, so how does it know where to find it?
18:52<bob2>don't know what you mean
18:52<bob2>but maybe you haven't seen pwd yet
18:52<bob2>every process has the concept of the current directory
18:52<bob2>which is where relative paths are resolved against
18:53<bob2>so if you just ssh'd to your linode, pwd is your homedir
18:53<elkingrey>I'm not sure what to put in here http://p.linode.com/4855
18:53<bob2>so 'zcat foo.sql.gz | mysql -u root -p' finds foo.sql.gz in your home dir
18:53<elkingrey>Oh, I got it now. I log out of mysql before I issue those commands
18:53<jkwood>Yup.
18:54<Ovron>or you can use the source command from inside, but yes.
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18:54<elkingrey>And cd to the directory that contains the dumps
18:54<bob2>yes
18:54<bob2>or provide a path to it
18:55<elkingrey>And it's okay to use a file that is .sql.gz, yes? Or should I unzip it first?
18:55<Ovron>it needs to be ungzip'd indeed
18:56<@ericoc>untar/gunzip first is easier
18:56<elkingrey>Okay, what's the command to unzip a gzip file again?
18:56<@ericoc>gunzip
18:57<elkingrey>sweet
18:57<elkingrey>Thanks everybody. Will do it as soon as file finishes uploading
18:58<bob2>or "zcat foo.sql.gz | mysql -u root -p"
18:59<Ovron>I also always import in screen sessions
18:59<MJCS>what would be an easy way to parse a dirty log file and only output lines that contains lets say "foo" to another file (or memory) and then parse that as a space separated value file?
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19:00<jkwood>Or "cat foo.sql.gz | gunzip -c | mysql -u root -p"
19:00<jkwood>If you want the @caker to cry.
19:00<Ovron>you can grep 'foo' dirty.txt > clean.txt, to start MJCS.
19:02<MJCS>Ovron: i got that far
19:02<MJCS>:p
19:03<Ovron>there's quite a few things you could do for the other part... you say you need to parse it. Any of the normal scripting toys would do... :p
19:04<@ericoc>sed and awk to the rescue
19:04<bob2>MJCS: awk
19:04<bob2>no need for sed
19:04<bob2>or grep
19:04<Ovron>depends how inconvenient you want to be
19:04<MJCS>ok
19:05<bob2>but be more specific
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19:07<MJCS>i have a bunch of entries with a date column, time, string, username, and IP
19:07<MJCS>i want to grab all ip's that have multiple usernames connecting to it
19:10<bob2>so what's "foo"
19:10<MJCS>foo is one of the strings
19:11<MJCS>actually its connected
19:11<bob2>okwhgatever
19:12<elkingrey>Okay, not sure again what to put in for the "customer" part of the restore command
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19:16<jammer>twice during ordering I got an empty page back and had to refresh in order to proceed :I
19:18<Marius>Ordering of what ?
19:20<bob2>elkingrey: there's no 'customer' palceholder in the thing you pastebined
19:22<elkingrey>bob2: Yeah, I figured it out, sort of, they want the [databasename] so I put that in there but I got an unknown databse error
19:22<bob2>sure
19:22<bob2>so don't specify it
19:22<elkingrey>You mean just leave it blank?
19:22<bob2>assuming your current mysql install is unused
19:23<elkingrey>My current mysql install has other databases on it and stuff
19:23<bob2>well, make sure the dbs you're loading don't have the same name as any existing dbs
19:23<bob2>or they'll be fucked
19:23<elkingrey>Nope, clean as a whistle
19:23<jammer>Marius: a linode VPS
19:23<elkingrey>Just leave the [databasename] part blank?
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19:27<elkingrey>Uhh ohh. Not sure what to make of this. Make sure to scroll all of the way down. Big gap in there http://p.linode.com/4856
19:28<Deezire>you have to create the database first
19:29<elkingrey>Others were telling me not to, at least that's how I understood it
19:29<Deezire>mysql foo bar < foobar requires that bar actually exssits
19:29<bob2>er
19:29<bob2>or just not specify the db
19:29<Deezire>bob2: that would require the database to be dumped into to have options to create it
19:30<bob2>yes
19:30<Deezire>.. which most proper dumps do :)
19:30<jkwood>Yeah, leave out the db name, so just mysql -u root -p < NewWordpress_2453037
19:30<jkwood>Oh wait... hmm...
19:31*Ovron would have looked into the dump to see what is in it
19:31<Deezire>Ovron: Probably a lot of mais. Tacos ftw!
19:32<Deezire>err, proper word would be corn i guess.
19:32<jkwood>You're *almost* clever.
19:32<elkingrey>Hmm. Well this is interesting
19:33<Deezire>also, never-ever do stuff like that under a root account, that's like opting in for disaster.
19:33<elkingrey>Taking Ovron's advice I extracted the file on my local computer, and tried to read the sql with a text editor, but am getting an error
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19:33<Deezire>then your dump is incomplete.
19:33<elkingrey>What the heck?
19:34<elkingrey>This whole time I've been backing up my databases and relying on shit?
19:34<Ovron>What error are you getting?
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19:36<elkingrey>http://p.linode.com/4857
19:37<Ovron>so it is a binary dump, perhaps. or perhaps UTF and your editor sucks.
19:37<elkingrey>I tried it using Bluefish as well and got garbage
19:37<elkingrey>What is a binary dump?
19:38<Ovron>hmm I thought mysql had a binary way of dumping data, moment
19:38<elkingrey>k
19:38<jkwood>Can you run "file nameoffile.sql" and see what it says?
19:39<elkingrey>The dump came from phpmyadmin in Bravehost, FYI
19:39<elkingrey>jkwood: Where do you want me to issue that command?
19:39<jkwood>In a Linux prompt of some sort - on your Linode would be fine.
19:39<Ovron>elkingrey: oh, then it should be text dump.
19:39<jkwood>Should just be one line of output.
19:40<elkingrey>bravehost says the "Collation is utf-8"
19:40<Ovron>Did you do what jkwood suggested?
19:40<elkingrey>No, not sure where to issue command
19:40<elkingrey>one sec
19:41<jkwood>18:47 < jkwood> In a Linux prompt of some sort - on your Linode would be fine.
19:41<linbot>New news from forums: Linode 512 much worse then shared hosting in Performance and Tuning <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6743>
19:41<@mikegrb>lulz
19:41<Ovron>^lol
19:42<elkingrey>http://p.linode.com/4858
19:44<MJCS>http://p.linode.com/4859 i've gotten the awk most of the way. what i really want is for it to go "MJCS, ip1, ip2, ip3" for each set
19:44<jkwood>That's what I thought - they double-gzipped it.
19:45<Ovron>gzipped the dump and put it in another gzip for the fun of it? Awesome
19:46<jkwood>elkingrey: mv NewWordpress_2453037.sql NewWordpress_2453037.sql.gz
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19:46<jkwood>Then gunzip NewWordpress_2453037.sql.gz
19:46<MJCS>i'm actually not even getting the right results from that awk
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19:47<jkwood>Then run file on it again. Should be text, or something along those lines.
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19:48<jkwood>Ovron: Stalker.
19:48<Ovron>jkwood: what? :O
19:48<Ovron>haha
19:48<Ovron>oh, that
19:48<jkwood>Don't think I didn't see you sneak in and beat me to the punch.
19:49<MJCS>bob2: any ideas?
19:49<elkingrey>jkwood: Okay, that worked. Weird. Anways, I can read the text now
19:49<bob2>nope
19:49<elkingrey>Let me try to run the mysql command again.
19:49<MJCS>damn
19:49<jkwood>elkingrey: That should import properly now.
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19:50*jkwood grumbles about stupid and untested software
19:51<elkingrey>With or without the [databasename] in the command?
19:51<jkwood>Without.
19:52<elkingrey>And you say I should do it under a different username as well, instead of root?
19:52<jkwood>No, root is fine.
19:52<MJCS>brb
19:52<elkingrey>k
19:52<jkwood>Don't use root in your apps to access it, that's all. ;)
19:52<jkwood>Same deal as standard Linux security - do as little work as possible as root, use a power user, etc.
19:53<Yaakov>USE SUDO
19:53<Deezire>Sudo is just a bad fix for a huge problem.
19:54<bob2>yeah, well, deal
19:54<Deezire>What good does it to know who issued the command?
19:54<elkingrey>It told me no database selected
19:54<bob2>sudo does more than that
19:54<Yaakov>sudo is not a "bad fix", it's an excellent tool.
19:54<jkwood>Hmm... perhaps it needs the database specified after all - I didn't think it did, though. =/
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19:55<elkingrey>Alright, might as well go create it, yes?
19:55<bob2>depends how the dump was made
19:55<elkingrey>do tell
19:55<bob2>???
19:56<bob2>it depends on what args you gave to mysqldump
19:56<Ovron>What did you open the file in an editor for again?
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19:56<Ovron>To see if it creates a database or not.
19:56<bob2>and thus whether the dump file has use statements in it
19:56<elkingrey>huh?
19:57<elkingrey>Going to just create the databasename now
19:57<Ovron>sigh, whatever.
19:57<elkingrey>Ovron: Not sure what you meant in last two statements
19:58<Ovron>You opened the file in a text editor few minutes ago, with what purpose?
19:58<Ovron>Just to look at it? See if it s pretty?
19:58<tjfontaine>urmoms pretty
19:58<Ovron>thank you
19:58<elkingrey>You're saying I shouldn't open it in a text editor?
19:59*Ovron slits wrists
19:59<elkingrey>What else does one open readable files with?
20:00<jkwood>Ovron: *You* were the one who suggested looking into the dump to see what was in it.
20:00<Ovron>What were your intentions with opening the file in a text editor? What were you going to do with it?
20:00<Ovron>jkwood: So?
20:00<jkwood>18:38 * Ovron would have looked into the dump to see what is in it
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20:01<Ovron>Yes? You might want to look at the discussion around that line
20:01<jkwood>18:41 < elkingrey> Taking Ovron's advice I extracted the file on my local computer, and tried to read the sql with a text editor, but am getting an error
20:01<Ovron>Yes? You might want to look at the discussion around that line
20:01<Ovron>It isn't rocket science to figure out what the purpose was, but perhaps I should have drawn it with crayons.
20:02*jkwood gives up
20:02<bob2>be nice
20:02<elkingrey>Ovron: You figured out the problem. The problem was it was double gzipped, and we figured that out because I couldn't read it
20:02<Ovron>No, that was someone else.
20:03<elkingrey>Yes, but it started with you
20:03<Ovron>The purpose of opening the file in an editor was to see if it has statements in it that create a database, or not.
20:03<elkingrey>Oh well.
20:03<elkingrey>It seems to have worked now that I created the database
20:04<tjfontaine>there is no one good, not even one
20:05<jkwood>Amen.
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20:07<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE
20:07<tjfontaine>Yaakov: you more
20:07<@Perihelion>YAAKOV MY LOVE
20:07<@Perihelion>HOW ARE YOU THIS FINE EVENING
20:07<straterra>Yaakov: I LOVE YOU MORE IF YOU COME RESCUE ME FROM THIS HOSPITAL
20:07<Yaakov>HAIRYPYLON
20:07<Yaakov>straterra: Hospital?
20:08<straterra>Yes
20:08<straterra>I got drug to the hospital by the gf because one of her friends is gonna have a baby
20:08<@Perihelion>whyfor
20:08<@Perihelion>Ah
20:08<straterra>So..I'm bored
20:08<tjfontaine>straterra: the miracle of birth is such an annoyance for those not directly related
20:08<Yaakov>straterra: You aren't the father are you?
20:09<straterra>I have my laptop..so..I'm thinking of firing up macports, installing apache + mysql + php and doing some devel
20:09<straterra>Yaakov: God no
20:09<tjfontaine>he's the mother?
20:09<straterra>brb
20:09<@Perihelion>I thought straterra reproduced asexually
20:09<@Perihelion>Rather I assumed
20:09<Marius>wat
20:10<Marius>you leave me hanging on msn
20:10<Marius>to fraternise with randoms on IRC
20:10<Marius>RUDE
20:10<Ovron>hermaphrodite
20:10<Nivex>IRC > MSN
20:10<Yaakov>Perihelion: I think you miunderstaood the statement: "If straterra ever reproduces it will have to be asexually."
20:10<@Perihelion>Marius: PM me the last thing you said?
20:10<Ovron>Marius: are you stalking Perihelion again?
20:10<Nivex>Ovron: I don't think he ever stopped.
20:10<Marius>it was "wat" :P
20:10<Ovron>Nivex: hah
20:10<@Perihelion>Yaakov: I don't see such a statement
20:10<Marius>Ovron: always!
20:10<@Perihelion>Ovron: Marius is pretty much the president of my fan club
20:11<Yaakov>Perihelion: Hmm... I just typed it.
20:11<jkwood>!enter
20:11<linbot>IRC supports complete sentences. Less <CR> more content, please.
20:11<Ovron>Perihelion: awesome
20:11<Yaakov>19|20:10:13 < Yaakov> Perihelion: I think you miunderstaood the statement: "If straterra ever reproduces it will have to be asexually."
20:11<jkwood>-ETOOMANYVOWEELS
20:11<@Perihelion>Where was it said before them for me to misunderstand it?
20:12<Yaakov>19|20:09:22 <@Perihelion> I thought straterra reproduced asexually
20:12<straterra>Yaakov: I have sexual relations :/
20:12<tjfontaine>cars don't count
20:12<@Perihelion>straterra: With yourself?
20:12<Nivex>I am the very model of a modern major general. I've information animal, vegetable, and mineral.
20:12<jkwood>Perihelion: Captives.
20:12<straterra>No, with my girlfriend
20:12<Yaakov>TMI
20:12<Nivex>What is a girlfriend?
20:12<@Perihelion>Can you rub your legs together and make babies?
20:13<Ovron>:|
20:13<straterra>Yes
20:13<straterra>We made one once.
20:13<@Perihelion>Did you eat it?
20:13<Tiven>?
20:13<straterra>No, it died before birth
20:13<jkwood>=(
20:13<@Perihelion>Shoulda eaten it anyway
20:14<straterra>Yeah
20:15<Marius>to get its powers?
20:15<@Perihelion>Yes
20:15<@Perihelion>I want to lick a unicorn.
20:16<Yaakov>Perihelion: Put the bottle down.
20:16<straterra>Look at my horse, my horse is amazing.
20:16<Ovron>Give it a lick, it tastes like raisins
20:17<Marius>Perihelion: I'm no unicorn, but I'll let you ride me like one ;)
20:17<@Perihelion>Yaakov: Actually it's a Guinness.
20:17-!-smed [~smed@ool-45730036.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:17<@Perihelion>It's in a nice glass
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20:17<elkingrey>Okay. Thanks everybody for the help. The databases seems to have been imported to mysql just fine. The problem I have now is connecting the database with the website's files. Specifically, I learned the other day that I would need to edit my wp-config.php file to reflect the changes. That file currently defines my DB HOST as sql5.bravehost.com. I'm not sure what to change that to for my linode server, however.
20:17*Nivex raises a toast to the Linode staff
20:17<Ovron>Miss P. preparing for the heavy boozage later tonight, I see
20:17<straterra>I want a guinness
20:17<Ovron>Which I didn't get invited to. Rude.
20:17<@Perihelion>To Linodia!
20:17<Marius>elkingrey: 'localhsot' ?
20:17<jkwood>elkingrey: It should be localhost.
20:18<elkingrey>k
20:18<elkingrey>not localhost.com, just localhost?
20:18<Marius>indeed
20:18<jkwood>Yeah, just localhost.
20:18<elkingrey>k
20:18<straterra>It is SO hot in here..I think they are trying to kill diseases by using heat
20:18<Ovron>I want localhost.com :(
20:18<Marius>you'll want to make the users as well
20:18<Marius>if you jsut set up and imported a sql database there wont' be permissions set for it
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20:19<elkingrey>mmmm
20:19<elkingrey>okay
20:20<jkwood>You would likely need to allow access from localhost anyway. Localhost and remote access are treated differently by mysql.
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20:20<Marius>yeah, he'll want to add the user and the allowed host
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20:31<elkingrey>Quick question, is there anything in my databases that would need to be modified(much like the wp-config.php file) to allow it to work in its new environment?
20:32<Marius>as long as the domain is the same, no.
20:32<elkingrey>Not sure what you mean
20:33<elkingrey>you mean like example.com?
20:33<Marius>wordpress has two rows in wp_options that are domain specific and you'll have to update them if the domain name isn't the same
20:33<Marius>yes, like example.com
20:33<elkingrey>Okay. Domain is the same
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20:35<elkingrey>What I am currently doing is trying to see if it works properly before I redirect the DNS. So, what I have done is edit my local /etc/hosts file and put in the IP of my linode and it's domain. Then I uploaded all of the website's files to it's document root, restored the databases, and edited the wp-config.php file to make my DB host 'localhost'
20:35<Marius>should be good then
20:35<Marius>you'll want to setup yoru virtual host as well ;)
20:35<elkingrey>And yet I am getting an "error establishing databse connection'
20:36<elkingrey>Did that already too
20:37<Marius>well, did you set up the user for the database ?
20:37<elkingrey>yes
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20:41<elkingrey>Oh wait. I see an error
20:42<elkingrey>I need to edit my wp-config.php file to correctly account for the user I created for mysql. Since they are different, I need to change my DB user, and password in the wp-config file
20:42<jkwood>Yes, that would most certainly make a difference.
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20:44<wycks>is there a command syntax to output a list of file permissions in numerical values
20:44<elkingrey>wycks: I don't know what you're talking about.
20:45<Marius>you want the chmod values in digits, not wrx
20:45<wycks>ya
20:46<straterra>Evo > WRX
20:46<elkingrey>I'll need help, cause I don't know what you guys want
20:46<jkwood>wycks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions#Octal_notation
20:47<wycks>I know what it is
20:47<elkingrey>Oh, you're not talking to me
20:47<elkingrey>hah
20:48<wycks>just wondering if there some operator to output something like ls-l as digits instead of wrx
20:48<Marius>wycks: Read under "Listing permissions" on that site
20:48<jtsage>wycks- http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/21722-command-shows-me-permissions-file-octal.html #3 works. it's ugly.
20:48<elkingrey>Umm, after having edit my username and password in the wp-config.php file I am still getting a databse connection error
20:48<wycks>ohh there we go sorry
20:49<Marius>stat -c '%n %a %A' can be used to print out octal notation.
20:49<Marius>according to wikipedia
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20:52<bob2>well, edit the rest, too
20:52<bob2>db name
20:52<bob2>host
20:52<bob2>then read your error logs
20:52<jkwood>wycks: for i in *; do stat -c '%n %a %A' "$i"; done
20:53<jkwood>That will do the trick for the current directory. You can probably script the rest of it to rearrange as you like, etc
20:53<wycks>sweet that works
20:54<elkingrey>Okay, I think I've found a problem, my USER and PASSWORD aren't working my one of my mysql users. Is there a way to view that user's password and permissions, etc?
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20:55<jkwood>Sure is. And if I were to attempt it, I would go use the MySQL documentation to tell me how, so I'll suggest it to you in order to save us both some time. ;)
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20:56<Marius>setting up a user with permissions in the CLI for MySQL is a nightmare if you've never done it 100 times before :P
20:56<jtsage>jkwood- heh. my answer on that one is usually phpmyadmin - i've always been to lazy to actually learn how to do it
20:56<jkwood>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/privilege-system.html in particular should be informative.
20:56<bob2>GRANT blah on blah.blah to blah identified by 'blah';
20:56<straterra>The documentation has commands you copy/paste for new users
20:56<bob2>not so bad
20:56<straterra>It's...pretty simple
20:56<Marius>You mean
20:56<jkwood>It's really not hard to create users. Once you grasp the MySQL syntax, it's pretty easy.
20:57<elkingrey>I'm trying to do things without using phpmyadmin
20:57<Marius>to blah@'localhost' identified by
20:59<megatron27>yeah, I don't even bother with MySQL ACL configuration
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21:00<megatron27>their GUI tools are pretty slick though
21:03<elkingrey>HHHHAAAAAAHHHHHAAA! Success!!!!
21:03<elkingrey>Thanks everybody, does anybody know which file I'll need to edit for my SMF database to work?
21:04<jkwood>I haven't played with SMF lately - do they have an automated tool to do migrations? I seem to remember it being somewhat automatied.
21:05<jkwood>http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?board=83.0;sort=subject
21:05<Praefectus>smf is awesome
21:05<Praefectus>they have db migrator scripts for a lot of the other forums out there
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21:06<jkwood>In particular, http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?topic=491.0
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21:07<elkingrey>Okay, so, while the front page seems to be loading fine, none of it's links are. Is this because I would need to actually specify EACH link address in my local /etc/hosts file for them to work?
21:08<Marius>nope
21:08<Marius>are your links example.com/some-page or exmaple.com/?p=3
21:09<elkingrey>former
21:10<Marius>yeah, you probably need to enable mod_rewrite in yoru httpd
21:10<elkingrey>not sure how to do that
21:10<Marius>Are you using apache ?
21:10<elkingrey>yes
21:11<Marius>a2enmod rewrite
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21:11<elkingrey>issue that command anywhere?
21:11<Marius>well, you might ahve to sudo the command
21:11<elkingrey>I'm logged in as root
21:11<Marius>then yeah, anywhere works
21:11<Marius>you'll want to restart apache after that
21:11<elkingrey>one sec
21:12<elkingrey>/etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
21:12<Marius>yup
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21:15<elkingrey>success!
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21:15<Marius>Of course!
21:15<Marius>:P
21:17<elkingrey>Uck, that link to the SMF docs didn't help me. I am sure there is one file that needs to be edited to account for the change in database name and user and password(much like wp-config.php) But I don't know what it is
21:18<Marius>I'd tell you, but I havne't used it since the first ever beta xD
21:19<Praefectus>Settings.php probly
21:19<Praefectus>if thats not it, let me know and ill look
21:19<Marius>or configuration.php
21:20<Mp5shooter>ohi Marius
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21:20<elkingrey>I think you're right
21:20<elkingrey>editing now, see if it works
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21:22<Praefectus>elkingrey: i just looked, it is in Settings.php
21:22<elkingrey>You guys are too kind
21:23<elkingrey>one more sec
21:23<SleePy>Wait.. What are you doing?
21:24<Marius>updating the host and users of a SMF settings file
21:25<elkingrey>do I need to a2enmod again?
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21:25<SleePy>Settings.php: $db_user, $db_pass
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21:26<Marius>no, the mod is now enabled until you disable it
21:27<SleePy>Rewrites are not needed for SMF.
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21:28<megatron27>looks interesting - http://checkmint.com/
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21:33<megatron27>shit, the stupid viral invite system
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21:35<elkingrey>Well thanks guys. Everything is looking smoove right now. Going to redirect my DNS. Wish me luck!
21:35<Marius>have fun
21:36<Mp5shooter>I wish I could afford a linode
21:36<Mp5shooter>:'(
21:36*Marius pats Mp5shooter on theh ead
21:36<jkwood>Deliver pizzas a few nights a week?
21:37<Marius>it's ok sonny, one day.
21:37<@mikegrb>lulz
21:37<Mp5shooter>lol
21:37<Mp5shooter>I'm 15
21:37<@mikegrb>ruflz
21:37<Mp5shooter>I can't even drive by myself yet rofl
21:37<Marius>why does your nickname seem so damn familiar
21:37<Mp5shooter>Marius: swiftirc
21:37<megatron27>Mp5shooter, there's a free usage tier on Amazon
21:37<Marius>oh god
21:37<Mp5shooter>loll
21:37<megatron27>Mp5shooter, but you still need a credit card I think
21:37<Marius>go away
21:37<Mp5shooter>I have one Megaf
21:37<Mp5shooter>megatron27
21:37<Mp5shooter>*
21:38<Mp5shooter>well it's not a credit card but it'll work
21:38<SleePy>elkingrey, Your forum is outdated btw. You should update (can be done via the acp)
21:38<Mp5shooter>megatron27: I think what amazon is offering for a year for free is a shell
21:38<megatron27>Mp5shooter, it seemed pretty complete to me
21:38<Mp5shooter>meh
21:38<Mp5shooter>bought a vps from somewhere else a couple of hours ago anyway
21:38<elkingrey>1.1.12? I thought that was most recent stable?
21:39<@mikegrb>lulz
21:39<Mp5shooter>I can sort of afford $7.49 per month lol
21:39<Mp5shooter>but $20? nope
21:39<megatron27>get a few of your friends together and pool the money
21:39<SleePy>elkingrey, 1.1.13 was released a few days ago :)
21:39<Mp5shooter>none of my friends are tech savvy
21:39<Mp5shooter>except one
21:39<Mp5shooter>but I wouldn't want him accessing a vps
21:39<@mikegrb>lulz
21:39<Mp5shooter>he would screw stuff up lol
21:40<jkwood>Mp5shooter: Do you have functional arms and legs?
21:40<Mp5shooter>yes i do
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21:40<Megaf>Mp5shooter: I cant either, but I did.
21:40<Megaf>:P
21:40<Mp5shooter>lol
21:40<Megaf>Linode is way too god
21:40<Mp5shooter>it is
21:40<jkwood>Rake leaves, wash windows, mow yards - you can make a TON of money. $20 a month will seem like nothing.
21:40<Megaf>and this comunity is just great
21:40<Mp5shooter>jkwood: manual labor ftl
21:40<megatron27>yeah, I'm paying in a weaker currency even
21:40<Marius>Mp5shooter does suffer from a lack of a functioning brain though
21:40<Marius>Just saying
21:41<megatron27>3 of my currency is 1 of years :D
21:41<megatron27>yours***
21:41<Mp5shooter>just because I originated from swiftirc Marius, sigh
21:41<jkwood>Hey, working for what you want is part of life.
21:41<Marius>Yes.
21:41<Mp5shooter>if I never mentioned it you wouldn't be saying that right now
21:41<jkwood>Sometimes that means doing things that are unpleasant in the short term.
21:41<Mp5shooter>not everyone from swift is moronic Marius
21:41<Marius>True, but you did say it
21:41<Marius>you burnt yoru self kiddo ;)
21:41<megatron27>just find someone who needs web hosting :-)
21:41<Marius>And yes they are!
21:41<Mp5shooter>Marius: even Perihelion?!
21:42<Marius>Especially perihelion!
21:42<@mikegrb>lulz
21:42<Mp5shooter>lol
21:42<jkwood>If you're technically savvy, you can take on customers to host sites on the node, and pay for it, as megatron27 points out.
21:42<GLaDOSDan>Haha
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21:42<GLaDOSDan>Another Swifter, Mp5shooter
21:42<Mp5shooter>jkwood that would be nice but I don't have time to do that kind of stuff
21:42<Mp5shooter>GLaDOSDan: Are you from swift?
21:42<megatron27>you're 15 and you don't have time :O
21:42<GLaDOSDan>I wouldn't say "from"
21:42<Mp5shooter>Megaf: school. :<
21:42<GLaDOSDan>I was there in '07
21:43<GLaDOSDan>But I don't go there any more
21:43<Mp5shooter>ah
21:43<Mp5shooter>I was there in 07 too!
21:43<GLaDOSDan>Everyone there is stupid
21:43<GLaDOSDan>Mostly.
21:43<Mp5shooter>Then I took a 1.5 year break
21:43<Mp5shooter>then I came back. ll
21:43<GLaDOSDan>I just idled in #achievements and #zybez
21:43<Mp5shooter>GLaDOSDan: true
21:43<GLaDOSDan>Yeah I started playing again recently too
21:43<Mp5shooter>there are good people there though
21:43-!-Megaf is now known as _Megaf
21:43<Marius>GLaDOSDan, I helped run that hellhole
21:43<Marius>how do you think I feel? >_>
21:43<@mikegrb>lulz
21:43<Mp5shooter>lol
21:43<GLaDOSDan>Haha
21:43<Mp5shooter>ok
21:43<megatron27>lol megaf
21:43<Mp5shooter>mikegrb's script is working
21:44<Mp5shooter>I'm going to stop saying acronyms
21:44<GLaDOSDan>I feel your pain, Marius
21:44<jkwood>NAMBLA?
21:44<megatron27>how can we be lovers if we can't be friends - Michael Bolton
21:44<tjfontaine>NAMBLA++?
21:44<Mp5shooter>oh Marius
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21:44<elkingrey>is it ls1.linode.com through ls5.linode.com for the nameserver redirect?
21:44<Mp5shooter>Remy resigned, did you know
21:44<bob2>ns
21:44<jkwood>Oh crap... THAT'S what that stands for.
21:44*jkwood facepalms
21:44<bob2>don't know what redirect means though
21:45<GLaDOSDan>ns1.linode.com, elkingrey
21:45<GLaDOSDan>ns5
21:45<GLaDOSDan>etc
21:45<elkingrey>ahh, okay thanks
21:45<megatron27>I googled that :|
21:45<Marius>I know he did
21:45<Marius>everyone did
21:45<GLaDOSDan>Yeah I was a little confused, jkwood
21:45<Mp5shooter>nah
21:45<Mp5shooter>Vivec's still there
21:45<GLaDOSDan>O_O
21:45<Mp5shooter>in spirit
21:45<@mikegrb>lulz
21:45<Mp5shooter>lol
21:45<Mp5shooter>omg I did it again
21:45*GLaDOSDan /ignore mikegrb
21:45<GLaDOSDan>:3
21:45<Mp5shooter>good plan
21:45<Mp5shooter>lo
21:45<jkwood>I should ignore the voices in my head that bring up random acronyms, methinks.
21:46<Mp5shooter>whew caught myself
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21:46<GLaDOSDan>we need a new channel
21:46<GLaDOSDan>#LUWCFSI
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21:46<Marius>Love Us We Come From Swift IRC
21:46<Marius>?
21:47<megatron27>so what's new
21:48<Mp5shooter>Marius: Sara is still there
21:48<Marius>Doens't count, she's MIA
21:48<Marius>along with every other oper
21:48<Marius>did yo usee me own them the other day?
21:48<GLaDOSDan>Linode Users who Come..
21:48<Mp5shooter>err she speaks on a regular basis
21:48<Mp5shooter>nope
21:48<Marius>I took down rs-tiko, swiftbl and their new stats site
21:48<tjfontaine>swiftbl?
21:48<GLaDOSDan>Why? >_<
21:48<Mp5shooter>^
21:48<Mp5shooter>Why.. -.-
21:49<Marius>GLaDOSDan, because I found out they were hosting swiftirc shit on the linode I let them use for swiftbl and it pissed me off
21:49<GLaDOSDan>Oh
21:49<GLaDOSDan>(What's swiftbl)
21:49<Mp5shooter>it's like dronebl
21:49<Mp5shooter>but the swiftirc version
21:49<GLaDOSDan>(what's dronebl)
21:49<Mp5shooter>blacklist
21:49<@mikegrb>lulz
21:49<Mp5shooter>lol
21:49<Mp5shooter>.
21:49<GLaDOSDan>oh
21:49<Marius>dnsbl
21:49<GLaDOSDan>i see
21:49<Marius>it actualyl worked better then dronebl
21:49<tjfontaine>urlme is it useful?
21:49<Marius>when katlyn bothered updating it
21:49<Mp5shooter>yeah
21:49<tjfontaine>oh
21:50<Marius>It used ot be epic
21:50<Mp5shooter>keeps the nooby irc clones away
21:50<Marius>swiftbl.org
21:50<Marius>it's grabbed 3/4 of am illion bots so far
21:50<Marius>wow, those stats are old though
21:50<Mp5shooter>[21:48:36] <Marius> I took down rs-tiko, swiftbl and their new stats site
21:50<Mp5shooter>what new stats site
21:50<Mp5shooter>o.O
21:51<Marius>stats.swiftirc.net ?
21:51<Marius>they brought it back up though, on a new host xD
21:51<Mp5shooter>oh
21:51<Mp5shooter>Why'd you attack it anyway
21:51<Mp5shooter>:|
21:51<Marius>it's basically just a site that sends an irc clone on then etwork, grabs a whois of anick and outputs it in xml
21:51<Marius>I didn't attack it
21:51<Marius>I took it down
21:51<Mp5shooter>how
21:51<Mp5shooter>o.O
21:51<Marius>I'm not malicious
21:51<Marius>I owned the node it was running on
21:51<Mp5shooter>Oh
21:51<@mikegrb>lulz
21:51<Mp5shooter>lol
21:52<Marius>my fav part is that the tiko site syas it'll be back up in 2-3 days
21:52<GLaDOSDan>Yeah
21:52<GLaDOSDan>>_<
21:52<Marius>that was posted 2-3 days after it went down, which was 3-4 weeks ago
21:52<GLaDOSDan>Tiko was better when Ryan was updating it :(
21:52<elkingrey>Okay, such I just need to make sure I've got it straight. I currently have an mx record on bravehost that sends my mail to an A record I have set up on my FQDN, but once my nameserver switches over to Linode, then the mx and A records on bravehost don't mean crap, and I need to have it set up in my DNS manager on Linode, yes?
21:52<GLaDOSDan>Err, No1
21:53<GLaDOSDan>If I understand correctly, yes, elkingrey
21:53<Marius>elkingrey: correct
21:53<elkingrey>Sweet!@
21:53<GLaDOSDan>It's surprising there are 4 (or more) SwiftIRC people in here though
21:53<GLaDOSDan>Small world...
21:54<megatron27>do you ever alt-tab to your IRC window and then forget what you were dong before you alt-tab-ed
21:54<Marius>there are lots of us
21:54<jkwood>elkingrey: Yes.
21:54<Marius>megatron27: only all the time
21:54<megatron27>I think I need an X-chat plugin that solve that problem
21:54<megatron27>solves***
21:54<Marius>I also have a bad habit of chatting to active ssh windows by accident
21:54<GLaDOSDan>megatron27: no
21:54<Marius>poor bash has no idea what i'm talking about =(
21:54<GLaDOSDan>hahaha
21:55<Marius>GLaDOSDan, I've been here for a couple years now
21:55<megatron27>okay, so here's the idea for the plugin, if you alt-tab and there are other windows open, it will ask you what you were doing in that window
21:55<GLaDOSDan>Ah
21:56<megatron27>then after 5 minutes, it will start nagging you
21:56<GLaDOSDan>just get more screens
21:56<Marius>megatron27: so kinda like ahving a wife?
21:56<GLaDOSDan>haha
21:56<GLaDOSDan>oh, I still have a bouncer connected to swift I think
21:56<GLaDOSDan>haha
21:56<megatron27>but you can't turn your wife off
21:56<megatron27>this one, you can disable
21:56<Marius>sure you can
21:57<elkingrey>Wow, it switched over to Linode QUICK
21:57<Marius>tell her to get back to the kitchen
21:57<GLaDOSDan>Chloroform
21:57<webprojectx>wives are best left in always on mode
21:57<Defenestrator>Better chatting to Bash than typing your password to IRC, I suppose
21:57<Marius>tru dat
21:57<GLaDOSDan>pfft
21:57<GLaDOSDan>passwords
21:57<Defenestrator>unless you have a tendency to greet people with "rm -f"
21:57<GLaDOSDan>who uses those
21:57<jkwood>hunter2
21:58<robinetd>YODAWGS
21:58<robinetd>Who here wants to play minecraft with me?
21:58-!-techhelper1 [~techhelpe@cpe-76-93-229-66.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:58<GLaDOSDan>Hssssssssssssssssssssssssss
21:58<@mikegrb>lulz
21:58<webprojectx>um who wants to build a better twitter/facebook/myspace? lol
21:58<megatron27>I thought duplicity could resume a backup process even if you aborted your first backup
21:59<megatron27>or was that rdiff-backup
21:59<Defenestrator>webprojectx: everyone, pretty much ;)
21:59<GLaDOSDan>webprojectx: diaspora do
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22:00<@mikegrb>lulz
22:00<webprojectx>lol. nice. i'm exploring cms's
22:00<megatron27>lets just create something like twitter that has a limit of 127 characters instead of 140...
22:00<megatron27>127 is way cooler
22:00<GLaDOSDan>let's have a twitter with a 4 character limit
22:00<webprojectx>lulwut? 108?
22:01<webprojectx>aaah mathematics. you can't argue with numbers
22:01<megatron27>actually something like twitter but with a word limit rather than a character limit
22:01<Nivex>You can argue with anything you want. You probably won't win though.
22:02<Nivex>Just look at politicians.
22:02<straterra>AND SNAILS
22:02<Nivex>and urmom
22:02<webprojectx>i like to argue with god, except he gets mad and doesn't return my texts
22:03<megatron27>gtalk is terrible for mission critical IM
22:04<megatron27>someone used my skype credit... hmmmm
22:05<webprojectx>on a completely different tangent i thought this was pretty cool. gonna check it out http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume
22:06<megatron27>yup
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22:09<elkingrey>Do I need to create an MX record the same as I had with bravehost, namely the FQDN? Or can I make it mail.example.com?
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22:12<bob2>your domain should have an MX record pointing at whatever machine you would like to have accept mail for it
22:12<bob2>and the name should be fully qualified
22:14<randallman>Having a MX is definitely a big 'should'
22:14<randallman>if nothing but mailservers look for those first :)
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22:15<elkingrey>Okay. I was under the impression that for each example.com that they could each get their own mail from mail.example.com
22:15<elkingrey>But I guess each of them will have to get a MX record set up to point towards my FQDN
22:15<randallman>you can have your MX set to iggyiggybooboo.foo.com
22:15<randallman>if you want
22:15<WormFood>you do not need an mx record, if the ip matches the domain name
22:15<randallman>assuming you have a valid mailserver set up on iggyiggybooboo.foo.com
22:16<randallman>WormFood, but you *should* have a MX
22:16<WormFood>does not really matter, as long as the ip matches the domain name....it should not break anything if there is no mx record...and the reason why, is maybe you want to have email delivered to a machine, but you don't have control over dns
22:17<randallman>but you *should* have an MX :
22:17<randallman>:)
22:17<WormFood>it does not matter, as long as the ip matches the domain name
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22:17<WormFood>don't forget, email predates dns
22:17<randallman>22:14 <randallman> if nothing but mailservers look for those first :)
22:17<randallman>sure
22:17<randallman>RFC 822 < RFC 1035
22:18<bob2>add a MX record
22:18<bob2>please
22:18<WormFood>having an mx records is "best practice"
22:18<randallman>ergo, *should* :)
22:18<WormFood>if possible, add an mx record
22:18<WormFood>if not possible, or too much hassle, then don't worry about it
22:18<randallman>I can't think of a reason it'd be too much hassle :)
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22:18<WormFood>and by "too much hassle", I mean like 3 weeks of paperwork
22:18<robinetd>Perihelion: Do you play minecraft?
22:19<WormFood>if it is in your control, then it shouldn't be too much hassle for you ;)
22:19<elkingrey>Okay. Email is good to go. Thanks! Looks like I have no COMPLETELY migrated. What a joyous feeling.
22:19<randallman>if it takes 3 weeks of paperwork to create an MX, you need a new system to create MX records :)
22:19<WormFood>indeed randallman ;)
22:19<WormFood>my first mail server was like that. I didn't have control over dns, and I didn't want to bring attention to the dns admin, because my server was on their system for free ;)
22:20<randallman>The lookup first attempts to locate an MX record associated with the name. If a CNAME record is found instead, the resulting name is processed as if it were the initial name. If no MX records are found, but an A RR is found, the A RR is treated as if it was associated with an implicit MX RR, with a preference of 0, pointing to that host.
22:20<randallman>:-)
22:20*randallman quotes 2821
22:20<WormFood>I didn't want to make any problems for them, or ask any more than I did....I considered myself VERY lucky to have my own private server online (on a T1), in 1996
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22:20<randallman>my first personal mailserver used taylor UUCP over tcp/ip
22:20<bob2>yes, everyone knows A records were grandfathered
22:21<randallman>since I was on a dynamic address PPP connection :-)
22:21<bob2>but one day elkingrey will change the domain or something and it will all stop working
22:21<WormFood>having an mx record is the right way to do it
22:21<WormFood>ok, I gotta go finish watching a movie with my girlfriend, see ya'll l8r
22:21<randallman>peace :-)
22:22<webprojectx>enjoy =)
22:22<randallman>bob2 asserts an even better reason... because the more explicitly defined something is, the less prone to unexpected results from changes the configuration is :)
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22:28<teyus>what is my root password?
22:28<Praefectus>teyus: password
22:28<bob2>hunter2
22:29<l0uis>uhm
22:29<webprojectx>doh!
22:29<teyus>i start now my linode account, and how i configure my root password?
22:29<@Perihelion>You set it when you deploy
22:29<arsasson>teyus, you set it when you build your linode
22:30<Marius>oi!
22:30<@Perihelion>Hello, Marius
22:30<@Perihelion>I've had a few beers in your honor
22:31<@Perihelion>K bbl :>
22:31<Marius>rude
22:31<Marius>running off as soon as i'm here! =(
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22:32<linbot>New news from forums: e-mail servers are driving me nuts in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6744>
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22:34<auraka>bum da bump
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22:39<@Perihelion>Marius: You offend me
22:39<@Perihelion>like...with your existence
22:39<Marius>=(
22:39<@Perihelion>The fact that you exist keeps me awake at night
22:39<Marius>brb, cutting!
22:39<webprojectx>dude, that's like. so harsh. man. the dude abides
22:39<auraka>wow
22:40<Marius>see
22:40<@Perihelion>Haha, he knows I love him.
22:40<@Perihelion><3
22:40<auraka>someone is in shark week
22:40<Marius>now you got the users hating on you and backing me up!
22:40<Marius>xD
22:40<@Perihelion>Meh, hatred.
22:40<webprojectx>B)
22:40<Marius><3
22:40<jkwood>It's not spring yet. You shouldn't need to cut the grass for at least two months, Marius.
22:40<@Perihelion>I love jkwood.
22:40<webprojectx>hait is luv all constipated
22:40<robinetd>Perihelion: Did you answer my question? Because if you did, I didn't see it. :(
22:40<@Perihelion>What question
22:40<robinetd>Perihelion: It's very important.
22:40<robinetd>Perihelion: Do you play Minecraft?
22:40<@Perihelion>Yes
22:41<orudie>что тут происходит ?
22:41<robinetd>Perihelion: orly. Do you play on any specific server?
22:41<auraka>robinetd: girls don't know how to use computers... Perihelion is an advanced version of linbot
22:41<robinetd>auraka: gdiaf
22:42<@Perihelion>robinetd: not always
22:42<robinetd>Perihelion: We should get together and build a fortress to hide from the zombies!
22:43<@Perihelion>Or hide from Marius
22:43<Marius>=(
22:43<robinetd>Perihelion: There's a difference?
22:43<@Perihelion>Hmm, true
22:45<megatron27>urghhh
22:45<megatron27>can't tolerate the speed today
22:46<jkwood>Don't do drugs, kids.
22:46<robinetd>megatron27: try cocaine instead
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22:47<webprojectx>nieness the cure for meanness
22:47<@mikegrb>lulz
22:47<webprojectx>er NICENESS lol
22:55<Mp5shooter>ohi Perihelion
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22:58<robinetd>Perihelion: How much RAM does a minecraft server take up?
22:58<GLaDOSDan>more than a linode 20gb can handle
22:59<Praefectus>just use 18gb in swap
22:59<shubuntu_>hey guys how can i change the port on which apache serves phpmyadmin, i've limited it to only localhost, but i also need to specify a port, so i can tunnel using ssh. any help is appreciated
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23:02<bob2>what
23:02<bob2>first part of question is unrelated to second part
23:02<bob2>ssh -L8080:localhost:80 -C yourlinode
23:03<bob2>oh, you're doing name based virtual hosting
23:03<shubuntu_>yes
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23:03<shubuntu_>don't wanna run phpmyadmin as an alias for every virtual host
23:04<bob2>add another port to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
23:04<bob2>change the port in the VirtualHost *:80 header to that port
23:04<bob2>sudo invoke apache2 restart
23:04<bob2>ssh -L8080:localhost:thatport -C linode
23:05<shubuntu_>didi did all that, except for apache says that port doesn't have a virtual host when i do that
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23:10<teyus>i never install Nginx before it is better instead apache?
23:10<arsasson>teyus, that's opinion
23:10<webprojectx>some say it's more stable, faster, for larger, scalable sites
23:11<webprojectx>if you're starting out apache is fine. it's been around for a long time. lots of how-to
23:11<bob2>nginx is pretty great
23:11<bob2>but if you're starting out, apache is fine
23:12<Defenestrator>In typical usage scenarios, it can use considerably less RAM than Apache
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23:15<webprojectx>i guess it all depends on what you're hosting/serving
23:16<Defenestrator>Apache prefork with mod_php serving mixed static and dynamic content uses way more RAM per user than it needs to
23:17<Defenestrator>It's only one particular use case, but it happens to also be by far the most common
23:21<webprojectx>http://nginx.org/en/ | http://wiki.nginx.org/
23:21<webprojectx>is streaming OGG files via icecast easy with nginx?
23:21<webprojectx>or does that only work with apache?
23:22<Defenestrator>Isn't icecast its own HTTP server?
23:22<jammer>yes, it is
23:22<@mikegrb>lulz
23:22<webprojectx>true. i'll go back to my documentation. lol =) i don't know what i'm talkin about =)
23:23<webprojectx>peace!
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23:25<Ovron>peace, yo
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23:33<pedro>how can I see what processes are currently running (and for which users)?
23:33<Defenestrator>ps
23:33<Defenestrator>or, alternatively, top
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23:33<Defenestrator>depending on exactly what you want
23:34<pedro>if they could be longer commands, that would be more inconvenient
23:35<tjfontaine>ps -ef
23:35<tjfontaine>or
23:35<tjfontaine>ps aux
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23:40<pedro>so.... anybody else have Munin installed?
23:40<pedro>I feel like I'm missing something fairly obvious
23:41<tjfontaine>I do
23:41<pedro>did you stick with the default paths, or put the logs elsewhere?
23:41<pedro>er.... the html files
23:41<tjfontaine>default configuration
23:42<tjfontaine>check /etc/apache2/conf.d/munin
23:42<tjfontaine>it limits by ip these days
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23:42<pedro>okay.... so I don't know what I'm looking at
23:43<tjfontaine>I am just assuming what your problem is
23:43<pedro>it's not even writing the files where I think it should be... not just that I can't view them
23:43<tjfontaine>where do you expect them to be?
23:44<pedro>in the path I specified, which is a subdirectory of a pre-existing site
23:44<pedro>gave it permissions so the munin user could write to the folder
23:44<tjfontaine>oh so non-standard, I'm going to walk away now
23:44<pedro>dag
23:44<pedro>fine fine. I'll revert.
23:44<tjfontaine>munin has a log file
23:45<tjfontaine>in /var/log/munin/ area (by default)
23:45<pedro>okay, I'll check into that
23:45<pedro>and if it doesn't exist....
23:45<pedro>(just pretending....)
23:45<pedro>(but seriously)
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23:45<tjfontaine>probably doesn't write to them
23:46<pedro>(hence me trying to even be able to see if the thing is running)
23:46<tjfontaine>(if the path doesn't exist)
23:46<pedro>it exists, but there aren't any files
23:46<tjfontaine>you can run the cron job manually
23:47<tjfontaine>[slightly bofh'ish point of view: if you can't debug this on your own why did you make a non-standard installation]
23:47<pedro>a valid point
23:47<elkingrey>Umm, after having changed my nameserver from Bravehost to Linode, do I need to keep Bravehost's A records for example.com in tact? or can I delete them?
23:47<pedro>I'll dink around, and see if I can straighten things out
23:51<elkingrey>I recently changed my nameserver to Linode, and the website that I migrated seemed to be running just fine, even after I had done the whois example.com and seen that the switch had been made. But now it's not working. Does anybody have an explanation for this?
23:54<@heckman>What's not working?
23:55<elkingrey>It says server not found
23:55<@heckman>What's the domain?
23:55<elkingrey>dailyanarchist.com
23:56<@heckman>Working for me
23:56<elkingrey>hmmmm
23:57<elkingrey>Do you think it could have anything to do with the nameserver change not having permeated completely throughout the internet?
23:57<@heckman>Possibly
23:57<@heckman>Or you have a negative DNS cache on your local machine.
23:57<@heckman>Try flushing your DNS cachce
23:57<@heckman>cache even
23:57<elkingrey>how do I do that?
23:57<elkingrey>Actually, no, that's not it because it's not working on my iphone either
23:58<@heckman>Well, Google Public DNS servers are serving the correct nameservers and records.
23:58<@heckman>So, sounds like you need to play the DNS waiting game.
23:58<arsasson>as is OpenDNS
23:58<elkingrey>It's funny because it only took like two minutes for the switch to be made, even thought it says it could take 24 hours
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23:59<Defenestrator>Not all ISPs respect short TTLs, sadly
23:59<elkingrey>So, it is normal for the nameserver switch to affect some people differently?
23:59<Defenestrator>yeah
23:59<arsasson>elkingrey, yes
23:59<elkingrey>I see.
23:59<@heckman>unfortunately
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23:59*heckman just had to chime in
23:59<Defenestrator>AOL and mobile carriers in particular tend to ignore short TTLs
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