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---Logopened Wed Apr 04 00:00:35 2012
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00:05*KyleXY coughs *dwfreed*
00:05<KyleXY>;)
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00:08<dwfreed>KyleXY: actually, it's not me :)
00:09<KyleXY>dwfreed: then probably mikegrb
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01:44<TeddyR>Anyone here having issues with kernel panics recently? In the past 3 weeks, I have had my L512 hang at 100% CPU and then the log shows http://p.linode.com/6504 (unfortunately I do not know how to read these yet).. Dont know if I am running out of RAM or if there is something more serious going on.... This node has alot running, but is not full production (its my "allinone playground")...
01:44<@akerl>TeddyR: What kernel?
01:45<TeddyR>This has happened at least twice a week in the last 3. its on Fedora 15, 3.2.1-x86_64-linode23
01:46<XReaper>TeddyR: 3.2.1 is bad
01:46<XReaper>bo back to latest 3
01:46<XReaper>We know of those issues
01:46<KyleXY>bo back, sounds fun
01:46<XReaper>*go
01:46<@akerl>A) Fedora >.< B) "Latest 3.0" is your friend
01:46<KyleXY>:)
01:47<XReaper>Yeah... TeddyR, some other people have posted logs of death from their servers running 3.2.1
01:47<Kyhwana>hmm
01:47<XReaper>3.1.8 is a good kernel
01:47<Kyhwana>hmm, im on linode 3.2.1 linode 40
01:47<XReaper>yeah, those kernels are bad
01:47<@akerl>3.1.8?
01:47<KyleXY>I'm still on 2.6, heh
01:48<XReaper>3.1?
01:48<EugeneKay>2.6 4 lyfe
01:48<XReaper>i don't know
01:48<KyleXY>EugeneKay: I just haven't bothered rebooting
01:48<@akerl>XReaper: 3.0.18
01:48<EugeneKay>A good reason
01:48<XReaper>3.0.18
01:48<@mikegrb>lulz
01:48<XReaper>lol
01:48<XReaper>kay
01:48<XReaper>missed a 0
01:48<KyleXY>EugeneKay: Which reminds me, I really should make a damn init script to make my life easier
01:49<KyleXY>Then I could reboot easily
01:49<TeddyR>ok. will try 3.0/3.1 ... thing is that this only started 3 weeks ago... before that it (3.2) had no issues..
01:49<EugeneKay>KyleXY - Upstart or traditional SysV?
01:49<XReaper>3.2.1 is dodge (i've had no issues tho...) but i do run arch...
01:49<EugeneKay>!arch
01:49<linbot>The Romans used Arch. Worked out GREAT for their civilization.
01:50<KyleXY>EugeneKay: Considering last I checked debian didn't have upstart, (unless memory is bad), traditional
01:50<Kyhwana>no problems on mine
01:50<Kyhwana>uptime of 71 days
01:50<EugeneKay>KyleXY - here's a shell of one I cobbled together to autostart my ZNC. https://github.com/EugeneKay/scripts/blob/master/etc/init.d/znc.sh
01:50<XReaper>Upstart is ubuntu
01:50<XReaper>-specific
01:50<KyleXY>XReaper: somewhat
01:50<KyleXY>XReaper: others adapted to it too
01:50<XReaper>Install systemd!
01:51<@akerl>systemd = evil
01:51<XReaper>akerl: apart from the fact linode is set up to use sysv-init why so evil? :P
01:51<@akerl>i just didn't have a good experience working it
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01:52<jed>XReaper: many distros provided by linode come with upstart
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01:52<XReaper>upstart works in with sysvinit doesn't it?
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01:53<jed>no, upstart replaces sysv init
01:53<XReaper>and provides a compatibility layer
01:53<XReaper>mmm...
01:54<@array>jed: imposter
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01:55<jed>array: no u
01:55*XReaper gives array some values
01:55<XReaper>s/values/data/
01:56*array doesn't fear the reaper
01:58<XReaper>I wonder if the arch kernels will work with pv-grub...
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01:58<KyleXY>So tempted to make an alpine linode
01:58<XReaper>alpine?
01:59<dwfreed>XReaper: one of those Linux distros you've never heard of
01:59<@array>XReaper: http://alpinelinux.org/
01:59<XReaper>oh cool
02:01<jed>danny
02:01<jed>i'm about to drop my nick on dalnet
02:01<@array>jed
02:03<KyleXY>neat little distro, though
02:05<igufi>Is there such a thing as a trusted PPA for Ubuntu?
02:05<rnowak>ha ha PPA
02:05<@akerl>haha trusting PPAs
02:05<igufi>I'm trying to find a easy way to get vim 7.3 installed
02:05<@akerl>why?
02:05<Zr40>ubuntu doesn't offer 7.3?
02:06<igufi>I'd like to use "set relativenumbering", among other things
02:06<igufi>10.04 doesn't have it
02:06<@akerl>You could try Arch?
02:06<igufi>7.2
02:06<rnowak>ha ha trusting arch is like trusting random PPAs
02:06<StevenK>7.3 is in 11.04+
02:07<igufi>will I break everything if I add 11.04 repository and install vim via that?
02:07<igufi>would that even work?
02:07<Zr40>can't you just upgrade to 11.04?
02:07<rnowak>so what feature from 7.3 is it that you want?
02:07*EugeneKay tries to decide between adding a third Linode or using his referral credits to pay the bill
02:07<Zr40>rnowak: he said it was relativenumber
02:07<bob2>yes just installing the binary package from 11.04 will be troublesome
02:08<igufi>bob2: ok .. I won't try that then
02:08<rnowak>Zr40: are you igufi?
02:08<Zr40>rnowak: no, but igufi literally said he wanted that
02:08<igufi>I did, yes
02:08<rnowak>Zr40: "among other things"
02:09<Zr40>rnowak: then, s/what feature/what other features/ :)
02:09<rnowak>Zr40: I'll tell you if I want a summary
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02:11<igufi>so what else? :later :earlier .. set colorcolumn would be nice too
02:12<igufi>anyway, I'm just going through my options on how to get 7.3
02:12<igufi>I could also wait for the next LTS release .. it's coming out this month, I believe?
02:13<retro|blah>Yes
02:13<rnowak>well, it is likely going to be a one-off installation considering how many patches vim receives
02:13<igufi>and I'm sure there will be good guides on how to upgrade from one LTS to the next
02:13<@akerl>lolupgrades
02:13<rnowak>compile yourself, checkinstall it, and you'll have a nice .deb
02:15<igufi>I would yes, but then I would have to patch it myself in the future
02:15<vodka>new vim releases stopped being exiting when I realized I didn't even use 1/10th of its current features anyway ;p
02:16<@akerl>exiting?
02:16<vodka>insert missing letters to taste
02:16<@akerl>:P
02:16<rnowak>existing?
02:16<retro|blah>As much as I love vim I do value the ability to exit it
02:16<rnowak>so what you're saying is that you're a dirty emacsos user+
02:17<Zr40>emacs users don't even pretend to have the need to exit their OS
02:17<retro|blah>ha
02:17<vodka>nah I am saying all I use is open file, go to line, change line, :wq
02:17<jed>:%s/blargh/bling/g <-- your pal
02:17<EugeneKay>sed -i s/blargh/bling/g
02:17<vodka>indeed
02:17<jed>...you're already in vim
02:18<jed>why do I even bother
02:18<retro|blah>:o
02:18<amitz>did someone say...oh, it's just a text editor, never mind.
02:18*vodka should have a look at vims features and learn to use more of them ;p
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02:28<Phr34Ck>Hello, I have bought domainname.com. I went to DNS manager and created new master zone using domainname.com and my email address. Where should I specify that this domain is pointing to a specific ip address where the web application is hosted? I want http://domainname.com to point to that ip address.
02:28<Phr34Ck>I looked into A records, but they require a hostname (like www)
02:28<@akerl>A) A/AAAA records B) I doubt you bought domainname.come
02:29<@akerl>s/e$//
02:29<KyleXY>don't we have an alias about nerfing configs?
02:29<KyleXY>Close enough? heh
02:29<KyleXY>Phr34Ck: the hostname can be blank
02:29<KyleXY>Phr34Ck: not "required"
02:29<Phr34Ck>KyleXY: ahhh, that's why it took it empty when I put domainname.com !
02:30<Phr34Ck>thank you
02:30<Zr40>!to KyleXY redact -- this one?
02:30<Zr40>!redact
02:30<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
02:30<KyleXY>!redact
02:30<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
02:30<KyleXY>yeah
02:32<Kyhwana>Phr34Ck: A/AAAA records
02:33<Kyhwana>then you need to setup virtualhosting on your webserver
02:34<fayimora>Please how do i know the amount of storage space used?
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02:34<KyleXY>fayimora: df
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02:34<KyleXY>fayimora: df -m might be better
02:34<fayimora>i don't understand. want me to run this from my terminal?
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02:35<Kyhwana>yes
02:35<fayimora>ok
02:35<fayimora>thanks would try that
02:37<fayimora>Used 1703
02:37<fayimora>Available 16941
02:38<fayimora>meaning i have wat left? wat unit of measurement is that?
02:38<Kyhwana>megabytes
02:39<Kyhwana>or df -h
02:39<fayimora>oh yeah thanks.. phew!
02:39<fayimora>17gb left ..thanks
02:40<fayimora>I used my iPad app and I saw 19.8 of 20.0 GB used
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02:40<fayimora>still weird tho
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02:51<linbot>(say <channel> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel>.
02:52<jed>heh
02:52<@akerl>Some people are fail
02:53<linbot>IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME
02:56<marius>And then there's Marius.
02:56<Kyhwana>what
02:56<@mikegrb>mmm bacon
02:56<Kyhwana>!bacon
02:56<linbot>Bacon is what makes food good!
02:57<linbot>hi
02:57<Kyhwana>it talks!
02:57<linbot>Stop abusing me! :(
02:57<Kyhwana>aww
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02:59<KyleXY>oh lord
02:59<dcraig>all systems are operational.
02:59<KyleXY>I might just kill whoever adapted their ascii script for that
03:00<linbot>STOP TOUCHING ME
03:00*KyleXY kills dwfreed?
03:00<KyleXY>dcraig: or you dunno
03:00*EugeneKay cuddles his variable-width font
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03:00<jed>it ate extra spaces :<
03:00*dcraig cuddles his variable-width "font"
03:01<jed>jsmith@undertow:~$ IFS=$'\n'; for i in $(figlet hello); do echo "say #linode $i"; done
03:01<Kyhwana>!botsnack
03:01<linbot>Thanks, Kyhwana! Om nom nom
03:01<KyleXY>jed: oh god
03:01<dcraig>what in the
03:04<EugeneKay>Needs more ii
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03:12<gylt>jed: eheh, so, what does that do exactly? < IFS=$'\n' > wha?
03:13<@akerl>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_field_separator <-- potentially useful
03:13<js_>tells bash which delimiter to use
03:14<KyleXY>jed: heh, yay exec/eval
03:14<gylt>ah ok. and the variable argument, 'figlet hello'?
03:14<KyleXY>gylt: bash command,
03:14<KyleXY>erm
03:14<KyleXY>not command
03:15<KyleXY>just a call to another program
03:15<KyleXY>figlet makes ascii art
03:15<gylt>ah, ok, I haven't heard of it :(
03:15<jed>this one will blow your mind:
03:15<KyleXY>Bah, screw it, time for bed, I'm apparently too exausted.
03:15<jed>$(<stuff)
03:15<jed>figure that one out
03:16<KyleXY>jed: pulls stuff in from the file stuff?
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03:16<jed>yeah, inline
03:16<jed>for i in $(<dork); do # is a common way I work
03:16<KyleXY>Kyles-MacBook:~ kyle$ echo $(<stuff)
03:16<KyleXY>test
03:16<KyleXY>woo for guesswork
03:16<jed>there's easier ways, but sometimes I have to build a command in there and it's easier
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03:16<jed>for i in $(awk ... < stuff); do for example
03:17<jed>bash-fu makes life good.
03:18<gylt>if I'm understanding it right, ultimately, its usage in that construct is limited to filtering files?
03:18<jed>it's just redirecting stdin, and without a command it becomes a "slurp"
03:19<KyleXY>heh
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03:25<gylt>so, I guess I just changed IFS's value. should I change it back, or should I not worry about it?
03:25<jed>it's reset at shell startup, and weird things happen if you leave it something nonstandard
03:26<KyleXY>wee #bash, oh wait..
03:26<gylt>< See the discussion below (if possible avoid modifying IFS):
03:26<jed>there's also OFS
03:27<gylt>ok, I guess you addressed that, nvm
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03:37<bob2>haha
03:37<bob2>IFS is also part of why setuid shell scripts don't work
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03:44*linbot slaps SelfishMan
03:45*linbot slaps SelfishMan
03:45*jed slaps linbot
03:45*akerl slaps jed
03:46<Zr40>slap all the things!
03:48<gylt>wow, one should really use > with caution
03:48<@akerl>why?
03:48<gylt>(e.g., $ >somefile just erases somefile very conveniently)
03:49<jed>that's a pretty common admin tool
03:49<jed>erase a log? >bam
03:49<gylt>any examples of how a command may start with <?
03:49<Zr40>the log writers don't even need to get a new fd when you do that, right?
03:50<@akerl>Zr40: Why are you using > onto your log files?
03:51<Zr40>akerl: I'm not
03:52<gylt>I went to a meetup today, and I was just blown off my feet seeing a guy on the command line. I mean, with all of these nifty tricks and all.. besides the readline shortcuts, using simple things (like the < or > operators) very cleverly. I wish someone would compile a list of "things that sysadmins do often" somewhere so I don't have to quiz people "heyyy how'd you do that" so much :D
03:53<@akerl>gylt: Have you heard of the internet?
03:53<@akerl>It's full of useful tips and tricks
03:53<jed>I showed someone ^A and ^E
03:53<jed>and they were like :O
03:53<Zr40>hey, nice. Didn't know "< foo" would write that to stdout
03:53<Zr40>jed: what does that do?
03:53<jed>this was, of course, after watching him hold down -> to get to the end of the line
03:53<jed>^A, move cursor to the front, ^E, move it to the back
03:53<Zr40>like, home and end?
03:53<jed>(for most things readline, and others)
03:54<gylt>do you know of ^? to undo?
03:54<jed>yeah, but I tend not to use it
03:54<jed>I stick with ^A/^E/^W
03:54<KyleXY>jed: heh, quite honestly I almost forgot about those
03:55<KyleXY>jed: I hardly use them because of screen making me have to do ^A a
03:55<dwfreed>^U will clear the line
03:55<jed>I just do down for that
03:55<jed>or ^C to abort entirely
03:55<dwfreed>KyleXY: and because just hitting home is easy
03:55<@array>^R is worth a mention
03:55<KyleXY>dwfreed: no home on my keyboard :p
03:57<Zr40>KyleXY: what keyboard is that/
03:57<dwfreed>array: holy crap that's handy (and I'll forget it in 5 minutes :))
03:57<KyleXY>Zr40: macbook keyboard
03:57<Zr40>KyleXY: fn-left
03:57<@array>dwfreed: hah, yes :)
03:57<@array>dwfreed: it's a real time saver
03:57<KyleXY>Zr40: Yeah I know, too far to reach with fingers though
03:58<dwfreed>yeah, beats history | grep by a long shot
03:58<jed>^R is the best thing ever
03:58<Zr40>KyleXY: end: fn-right, and I think you can guess page up and down
03:58<jed>once you get ^R down, you are hot shit
03:58<KyleXY>Zr40: I just use irssi's built in stuff honestly
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03:58<Zr40>KyleXY: I fn-up/down in irssi. What stuff are you referring to?
03:59<KyleXY>Zr40: alt+p alt+n
03:59<KyleXY>meta*
03:59<Zr40>option*, since you're on osx
03:59<KyleXY>I left my option keys mapped to their respective things :p
03:59<KyleXY>ñ wee
03:59<gylt>to complete username, do esc~, to complete command (instead of file) do esc!, to complete hostname esc@, etc.
03:59<KyleXY>Just so I can do stuff like that
03:59<Zr40>though indeed I do have 'Use option as meta key' enabled
04:00<KyleXY>Zr40: I hardly use meta in irssi,
04:00<gylt>(of course, I don't use esc -- I use alt, more ergonomic. I've got a habit now of doing alt+shift+{`,1,2,3} now a lot for no reason)
04:00<Zr40>KyleXY: not even to switch between irssi windows?
04:00<KyleXY>Zr40: 260? pssh
04:00<KyleXY>Zr40: /w for the win
04:00<Zr40>260?
04:01<KyleXY>260 different windows.
04:01<Zr40>that's... a lot.
04:01<KyleXY>or somewhere around there, probably more now
04:01<jed>introducing: /wc
04:01<KyleXY>jed: I have a /qc for queries already heh
04:01<KyleXY>sad thing is a majority of them I actually talk in
04:01<gylt>oh, and use ^p and ^n to go up and down the history in the term (instead of up-arrow down-arrow)
04:01<Kyh_>aww, got some hits on the honeypot, but nothing interesting
04:02<EugeneKay>Which honeypot?
04:02<Kyh_>kippo
04:03<Kyh_>looks like scanning bots, they login and then just disconnect
04:03<EugeneKay>Ah.
04:03<EugeneKay>Yeah, botnet.
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04:05<Kyh_>Yeah
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04:12<XReaper>heh i watched an attack on kippo once
04:13<XReaper>kept trying usernames as passwords
04:13<jed>which, sadly, works
04:13<XReaper>Yup
04:14<XReaper>Kay... So if i want to hide the real ssh, should i run it on a port <1023?
04:14<EugeneKay>Yes.
04:14<jed>without question, and consider what you're gaining
04:14<XReaper>Ability to run kippo
04:14<EugeneKay>Use ratelimiting with a redirect
04:14<XReaper>nehow, i can make avail via a redirect
04:14<XReaper>:D
04:15<EugeneKay>If a source IP attempts >5 connections/min, forward them to kippo
04:15<XReaper>Haha!
04:15<gylt>why on a port above 1023? what's so special about that number?
04:15<jed>any user can bind to ports > 1023
04:15<jed>only root can bind to ports <= 1023
04:15<XReaper>nmap only searches up to 1023
04:15<jed>if you let it choose defaults
04:16<EugeneKay>There's a question - does PREROUTING support rate-limits?
04:16<jed>-m limit should be available everywhere, I would think
04:17<XReaper>my vps is obvs the firewall :/
04:17<EugeneKay>What about -m connlimit
04:17<EugeneKay>commlimit*
04:17<XReaper>had to write my own ip6tables rules on my dd-wrt
04:17<XReaper>that was fun...
04:17<EugeneKay>connlimit*
04:18<EugeneKay>I think I need booze.
04:18<XReaper>should make an automated vending machine that uses a linode :D
04:18<EugeneKay>Ah nvm that's only available by patch
04:18<XReaper>to control it
04:18<EugeneKay>XReaper - https://itvends.com
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04:19<Zr40>will it vend?
04:20<XReaper>'a can of Pepsi, filled with Coca-cola
04:22<gylt>I notice a lot of folks in this channel use dd-wrt
04:22<EugeneKay>I don't; I use an i3-540 with 5x2TB drives and two NICs. ;-)
04:23<gylt>well, actually 2, but stilll... anyway, I'm surprised dd-wrt is more used than openwrt, considering dd-wrt's interesting history
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04:29<gylt>this is quite a relevation -- knowing about figlet. I always thought that it was just some weird fetish of some people to meticulously craft ascii logos for their leet hacker groups and whatnot. Wow, this changes things quite a lot, heh
04:30<EugeneKay>No, but using them is a fetish.
04:30<EugeneKay>One which should be crushed with lemons. In a party.
04:30<Zr40>when life gives you lemons...
04:31<XReaper>gylt: dd-wrt has more support then open-wrt
04:31<XReaper>Plus, it is commercially backed
04:32<gylt>isn't tomato also commercially backed? some buffalo routers come with it iirc
04:32<XReaper>Yeah
04:32<XReaper>Tomato and DD-WRT are the good ones
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04:32<XReaper>Also, some people have made custom forks of dd-wrt
04:32<gylt>openwrt isn't? :P why did openwrt fal behind
04:33<XReaper>i have a CFE-rebranded WRT610Nv2
04:33<XReaper>nehow better go to work...
04:33<XReaper>::(
04:33<XReaper>and i wanted to 'play' around with my linode...
04:33<gylt>huh?
04:34<gylt>how does that tie into the situation. Your router and home.. and linode?
04:34<gylt>between putty and my linode, everything else is immaterial so long as I have a working internet connection. What fun stuff do you do that dd-wrt is of any important?
04:34<gylt>importance*
04:35<gylt>s/and/at your/. sorry :(
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05:00<tusk>Hi
05:01<SnakeO>hi
05:02<SnakeO>how are ya tusk
05:02<SnakeO>tuskamanutsk
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05:08<Kyh_>hmm
05:08<Kyh_>oop, nvm, fail ISP
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06:33<Patel>Hello Greetings!!!
06:33<Patel>Is anybody can help me?
06:33<Kyh_>!to Patel ask
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06:33<Kyh_>wat
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06:33<Kyh_>!ask
06:33<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
06:33<Patel>How to access Mysql without SSH?
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06:35<Kyh_>What do you mean?
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06:35<Patel>I mean i want to operate MySql from server...
06:35<@akerl>?
06:35<chesty>i think Patel means from their desktop, not through ssh command line
06:36<Kyh_>operate? there's mysqladmin which you run locally..
06:36<LiquidAtom>Patel: Do you mean access the mysql server externally.
06:36<Kyh_>ah
06:36<Kyh_>Isn't there that gui thing people use?
06:36<LiquidAtom>MySQL Admin or something like that (I think).
06:36<Patel>yes
06:37<LiquidAtom>MySQL Workbench
06:37<Kyh_>nah, there's some windows gui client thing that you can use, though it's recommended you use it over a ssh tunnel
06:37<LiquidAtom>http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html
06:38<Kyh_>yeah, that was it
06:38<LiquidAtom>It's got an EOL announcement as well :o
06:38<Patel>Currently I am logged in my Linode server....but I can't see any link or tab for Mysql...
06:39<Kyh_>uh, logged into your linode how?
06:39<LiquidAtom>Patel: I would seriously recommend heading over to the Linode Library.
06:40<Patel>Sorry?
06:40<Patel>Not getting
06:40<Kyh_>Patel: how are you logged in? via ssh?
06:40<Patel>no
06:41<Patel>I am logged in from browser
06:42<chesty>logged into what from browser?
06:42<Kyh_>OK, logged into what using your browser? Do you mean the linode dashboard? (That isn't logging into your linode, it's the dashboard that controls it, overall, not whats running on it)
06:42<chesty>~first
06:42<Patel>yes
06:42<Patel>I am on my linode DashBoard
06:42<Kyh_>Patel: you can't control stuff running on your linode from there, that's just for doing things like rebooting it, etc.
06:42<Patel>ohh
06:43<Kyh_>It's not a control panel for your VPS, in the usual sense you're thinking of. If you want a control panel, you have to install one on your linode.
06:43<Patel>ok
06:43<Patel>got it..
06:44<Patel>How to install control panel?
06:45<Kyh_>Someone else can answer this one :P
06:45<@akerl>apt-get install gui-all-the-things ?
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06:57<Patel>Thank you very much
06:57<Patel>For you help
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07:32<prime>hey
07:33<prime>what networks is linode's datacenter connected to?
07:35<chesty>there are 6 DCs
07:36<hawk>prime: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Network has some links and stuff
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07:40<hawk>(While no official list it should be correct in terms of linking to the appropriate parties.)
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07:52<linbot>New news from forums: Configure Name-based Virtual Hosts in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8653>
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08:34<BenOvermyer>Morning folks
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08:34<BenOvermyer>Anyone from Linode itself here?
08:35<SpaceHobo><redacted>
08:35<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/
08:36<BenOvermyer>Keen.
08:37<BenOvermyer>Maybe I don't need a Linode staffer for this, though. If I import a 2GB .sql file into my Linode server, does that count against my traffic limit?
08:38<DrJ>BenOvermyer: no
08:38<BenOvermyer>Also keen.
08:38<DrJ>a few months ago all incoming traffic was made free
08:38<BenOvermyer>That's slick.
08:38<BenOvermyer>How do you guys use Linode?
08:38<DrJ>only outgoing traffic counts against quota
08:38<DrJ>you what what do we use it for?
08:38<DrJ>*you mean
08:39<BenOvermyer>Yeah.
08:39<DrJ>that would be a different answer from just about anyone
08:39<BenOvermyer>Haha, fair enough. I'm just curious, since we're a very new customer.
08:40<DrJ>I use mine to run websites, but mainly a police scanner stream site
08:40<BenOvermyer>Oh? Isn't streaming bandwidth-intensive?
08:41<DrJ>I have 400GB/month for my quota
08:41<DrJ>I usually use 300GB of it
08:41<DrJ>its just a 32Kbit audio stream
08:41<DrJ>one user listening 24/7 all month only uses 10GB (roughly)
08:42<BenOvermyer>hmm
08:42<BenOvermyer>We're using it to move our company's database and web servers into the cloud instead of our server room.
08:42<DrJ>cool
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08:46<Kunda>can i mod_redirect a url pointing to a .pdf file ?
08:46<dwfreed>Kunda: why wouldn't you be able to?
08:47<Kunda>just inquiring first
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08:50<tusk>Kunda: sure. easy
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08:51<Kunda>when migrating to Nginx from Apache is there a automagical way Nginx will honor pre-existing mod_redirects ?
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09:02<purrdeta>Kunda: not that I know of.
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09:21<Gshock>no, you have to configure nginx appropriately
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09:36<linbot>New news from forums: How to host my website on my linode in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8654>
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09:53<squircle>how would I go about getting the OS X terminal to communicate with a device over a usb -> serial adaptor? (or is there some third-party terminal emulator?)
09:53<squircle>also, good morning/afternoon/evening/night wonderful people of #linode <3
09:54<@heckman>I think it assigns it to some device
09:54<squircle>it's /dev/ttyUSB0, but I don't know how to use it
09:54<squircle>how to "connect" per se
09:54<@heckman>Use screen?
09:54<@heckman>screen /dev/XXXX
09:54<@heckman>I think that works
09:56<squircle>it... seems like it should work. maybe i've got the wrong baud rate.
09:57<staticsafe>http://bugtracker.ispconfig.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=2157#comments - heh
09:57<squircle>ZyXel's english documentation is severely lacking, and my french isn't amazing
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10:03<tank100>can anybody recomend a CRM solution licensed GPL or BSD
10:04<squircle>tank100: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/foss-linux-crm-roundup, there's 14 there
10:05<tank100>thanx
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10:06<CornishPasty>squircle: that's amazing... Did you like... use Google or something?
10:06<tank100>personal experiences? often its hard to judge a book by its cover
10:06<squircle>CornishPasty: I know, right! It was so easy!
10:06<CornishPasty>s/easy/hard/
10:07<CornishPasty>I've used SugarCRM before tank100
10:07<squircle>damn, sarcasm fail. my bad.
10:07<CornishPasty>:D
10:08<tank100>what was your conclusion?
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10:08<CornishPasty>tank100: It was the only one I used, and it fit the purpose we needed it for
10:09<CornishPasty>Importing the data from their old system was an absolute bitch though
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10:11<tank100>:(
10:11<praetorian>evening
10:11<CornishPasty>tank100: Well, the import was fine, exporting was the problem...
10:12<praetorian>squircle: did you get the serial device working?
10:12<squircle>praetorian: kinda... (no, not at all). I think I have the wrong baud rate, or maybe I'm using a null modem when I shouldn't...
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10:13<praetorian>squircle: ahh ok. i think i used zterm last time i wanted to talk serial (console mode to a server). http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6888/zterm-x
10:14<squircle>praetorian: yeah, it's just crazy old and I should be able to make screen work somehow. thanks, though. (I think I'm just misusing a null modem cable)
10:14<praetorian>ok
10:14<squircle>:)
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10:32<XReaper>Mmm....
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10:42<Narasimha>dear team, few minutes back I got a severity ticker....
10:42<Narasimha>where my site got spam files init
10:43<Narasimha>automatically some directories are getting created
10:43<Narasimha>can someone help me to resolve it
10:43<Narasimha>ticket number: 889772
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10:49<Narasimha>where my site got spam files in it, automatically some directories are getting created. can someone help me to resolve it?
10:50<LiquidAtom>Narasimha: If you've submitted a ticket, a member of staff will respond (by ticket) shorly.
10:50<LiquidAtom>s/shorly/shortly/
10:51<Narasimha>ok
10:51<Gshock>Id be kind of surprised if they went as far as to fix whatever is insecure about your setup though.
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10:52<LiquidAtom>It may be likely that your installation has been compromised in some way/shape/form, so they'll simply tell you to re-image your Linode.
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11:17<linbot>New news from forums: Missing apxs2 / http pseudo steraming in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8645>
11:20<auraka>morning
11:20<Zr40>hey auraka
11:20<XReaper>Need something fun to do on my linode
11:20<Zr40>XReaper: nethack
11:20<XReaper>Quick! Need suggestions! :P
11:20<XReaper>Zr40: Playing nethack on my linode would not be my idea of fun
11:21<XReaper>I do <3 the game
11:21<XReaper>but still
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11:23<auraka>XReaper: re-build it
11:23<auraka>hello Zr40
11:23<XReaper>auraka: not my idea of fun
11:24<XReaper>its only been up for 2 weeks since my last rebuild
11:24<XReaper>:D
11:24<Zr40>XReaper: what _are_ your ideas of fun?
11:24<XReaper>Uhm...
11:24<XReaper>ssh on 443?
11:24<XReaper>lame...
11:24<auraka>XReaper: use your extra traffic to send large pings to rnowak's nodes....thats what I do
11:24<XReaper>Ha
11:25<XReaper>auraka: thats mean :P
11:25<staticsafe>XReaper: IRC server
11:25<auraka>no....means would be sending spoofer udp packets out as his node ip for dns amplification attacks
11:26<XReaper>staticsafe: there are enough irc server
11:26<XReaper>s
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11:27<XReaper>Actually... might link it into a small network i'm in
11:27<@mikegrb>lulz
11:27<staticsafe>lol i was about to ask you to link to mine :3
11:28<staticsafe>we could use a tokyo node :D
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11:32<purrdeta>meh, I have a useless IRC network. Its just for fun :P
11:32<imMute>tasaro: hey, got the message! (you sent me an email about overdue balance 4 times in a few minutes) it's all sorted out now :)
11:32<XReaper>staticsafe: i am in tokyo
11:32<XReaper>(my node)
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11:33<@tasaro>imMute: awesome, thanks.
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11:34<XReaper>time to write myself a PKGBUILD :D
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11:37<purrdeta>XReaper: good luck :P
11:38<XReaper>Would take me all of a minute
11:38<XReaper>once i find the templates...
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11:49<Narasimha>dear team, by mistake I deleted a folder with root. Is there any way to get it back?
11:50<Narasimha>based on drvies info?
11:50<@caker>restore it from your backups
11:51<Narasimha>I could not have any backups of it
11:51<@caker>:(
11:51<Narasimha>does it stores anywehere?
11:51<Narasimha>only one folder
11:51<@caker>Have you migrated or resized your Linode lately?
11:51<Narasimha>No...
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11:52<Narasimha>Can you please give me somehelp as that is the core of my system
11:54<Narasimha>Please help mw
11:54<hawk>Narasimha: With _luck_: pulling the plug, booting finnix and trying something like http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ could help
11:54<@caker>Narasimha: if you don't have backups, then you lost the filesystem structure. You may be able to find the data still using a tool such as ext3grep - http://code.google.com/p/ext3grep/
11:55<MaZ->note: dont shut down
11:55<MaZ->or write anything to the disk :V
11:55<hawk>Would shutting down actually make any difference?
11:55<hawk>Writing to the disk clearly is a huge no-no...
11:55<MaZ->depends if the shutdown process ends up writing stuff to disk
11:56<@caker>I'd pull the plug (issue a shut down job or disable Lassie, and immediately issue a Lish destroy)
11:56<Narasimha>IN fact, I came to know about that through reboot only..after reboot...I could not find it :(
11:56<Narasimha>does it help?
11:57<EugeneKay>In a nutshell, you're boned.
11:57<hawk>Did you store all your mission critical files in /tmp ? :P
11:57<EugeneKay>"If your data isn't backed up off-site, you didn't really want it."
11:57<Narasimha>I am sorry, not :(
11:58<EugeneKay>Sorry, but a reboot means that your chances are essentially nil.
11:58<EugeneKay>(lots of disk I/O over the journal)
11:59<MaZ->btw hawk im guessing even the act of flushing logs to disk on shutdown could be enough to screw up recovery chances
12:00<EugeneKay>Yup.
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12:00<hawk>MaZ-: Quite possibly. I wasn't strict enough about my interpretation of "shutting down".
12:01<Narasimha>If I try with above tools, will it help?
12:01<MaZ->Narasimha: after rebooting? the chances are pretty much zero
12:01<hawk>Narasimha: Probably not, I suppose you could try anyway
12:01<MaZ->but i mean... no harm trying
12:01<MaZ->did you like... delete /boot or something
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12:02<Narasimha>OK, thanks a lot
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12:05<hawk>MaZ-: Well, I sort of hope that interpretation is correct. Sounds like something that would most likely be easily replacable.
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12:06<BP{k}>( Vliegendehu) Who do I need to e-mail to tell them they broke the slackware usbboot.img?
12:06<BP{k}>bah
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12:15<linbot>New news from forums: Ubuntu upgrade strategy in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8656>
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12:19<nicinabox>apache seems to become unresponsive to new requests about once a day on our servers. any reasons for this?
12:19<EugeneKay>What day is 12.04 releasing "finaL" isos?
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12:21<MaZ->nicinabox: could be hitting maxclients, or your machine could be spawning too many apache processes to serve requests, running out of ram and starts paging until the machine catches up
12:21<MaZ->2 of many many reasons it could become unresponsive :V
12:21<EugeneKay>DOn't forget gardwn gnomes.
12:21<EugeneKay>They're always an issue.
12:22<MaZ->(or the OOM killer is nuking your apache processes ¬_¬)
12:23<nicinabox>MaZ-: thanks, I'll check there
12:23<MaZ->nicinabox: are you running mod_php or something?
12:23<MaZ->because that will spawn a ~30mb min usage process for each concurrent request
12:24<MaZ->with apache default settings of 150? iirc maxclients, thats a possible ram usage of 4.5GB
12:24<MaZ->so unless you have a large linode... :>
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12:25<nicinabox>MaZ-: yikes! yes, using mod_php
12:26<MaZ->right so mod_php runs the PHP interpreter inside each apache process
12:26<MaZ->which boosts their memory usage pretty massively
12:27<linbot>New news from forums: I need help with the configuration of my magento in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8657>
12:28<nicinabox>MaZ-: is overall memory usage a useful indicator? (it seems normal)
12:30<MaZ->it'll be normal right up until the point you get a load of requests at once, then the machine will crap itself :p
12:30<MaZ->but bear in mind this is only 1 reason it might happen
12:31<MaZ->the other "way" of running php is to do it via fastcgi, so you use something like php-fpm to control PHP processes (so you can set a min / max and php-fpm will control the number of processes which are spawned) and then set apache to use it via fastcgi
12:31<MaZ->but it's a bit of a ballache to setup with apache at least
12:31<MaZ->benefit is it gives you more control over apache and php memory usage
12:31<XReaper>on nginx its awesome
12:31<MaZ->^
12:32<XReaper>(php-fpm)
12:32<MaZ->its like a 5 line setup on nginx
12:32<MaZ->but then you lose .htaccess and have to rewrite your httpd config :)
12:32<nicinabox>i wish we were using nginx, but alas
12:33<MaZ->yeah
12:34<MaZ->well if that IS whats causing your responsiveness issues, you should have a look at http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking the apache section
12:34<nicinabox>Ahh, i am hitting max clients. should I bump it up?
12:34<@caker>nooooo
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12:35<@caker>nicinabox: Turn down MaxClients, and disable KeepAlives
12:35<nicinabox>explain it like i'm 5
12:35<@caker>I'd go for like 15-20, but turn OFF KeepAlives
12:36<nicinabox>MaxClients currently at 19. Should I go lower?
12:36<@caker>is 19 between 15 and 20?
12:36<nicinabox>it is
12:37<@caker>did you disable keepalives yet? :)
12:37<nicinabox>i did
12:37<@caker>ok - you'll be fine!
12:37<@caker>if that doesn't solve the problem, then it's something else
12:37<nicinabox>okay! I'll keep an eye on it
12:38<nicinabox>you guys are the best
12:39<MaZ->cakif you hit maxclients but the server still has enough memory that it doesn't fall over, do you get a 503 or somesuch?
12:39<MaZ->er
12:39<@caker>requests beyond MaxClients queue
12:41<MaZ->nicinabox: its basically a balancing act - you want to have your maxclients high enough so that everyone coming to your site can load the page without being queued, but you want it low enough to never spawn enough apache processes to cause an OOM on the linode
12:41<nicinabox>ahh okay
12:42<MaZ->and if you're unable to get your maxclients high enough with the amount of memory you have on the linode, you either need a larger linode or do some magic with load balancers and multiple linodes
12:42<MaZ->by turning off keepalives you basically state that each http request closes as soon as it's complete, which leaves more apache processes free to handle new requests
12:42<MaZ->(can you tell im bored at work and waiting for 6pm?)
12:43<nicinabox>i'm glad you're bored at work :P
12:43<@caker>KeepAlives off on low memory rigs is good stuff
12:43<nicinabox>TIL
12:43<nicinabox>should i tweak the mpm bits?
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12:44<nicinabox>they're default
12:44<@caker>if you did those two things (maxclients / keepalives off), you're good. move on.
12:44<nicinabox>wonderful
12:44<Evocore>With openssl, how do I find the fully qualified domain name on linode?
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12:56<hawk>Evocore: What exactly are you trying to find?
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13:11<dzho>just a random guess, but it looks like he's trying to find the FQDN
13:11<linbot>New news from blog: api_spec() <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/api_spec/>
13:14<hawk>dzho: Really?
13:15<dzho>of what, I don't know
13:16<dzho>Evocore: what are you trying to do?
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13:21<wrg>hi
13:21<wrg>admim here ?
13:21<wrg>linode admin here ?
13:21<squircle>!ops
13:21<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/
13:21<wrg>admin
13:21<wrg>no 1 ?
13:21<retro|blah>!to wrg ask
13:21<retro|blah>heh
13:21<retro|blah>!ask
13:21<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
13:21<squircle>!justask
13:22<squircle>who deleted my factoid :(
13:22<wrg>how much for vps ?
13:22<@caker>https://manager.linode.com/signup/#plans
13:22<wrg>where ip plan ?
13:22<wrg>no ip ?
13:23<@caker>!ips
13:23<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1/month, and require technical justification. With IPv6 enabled each Linode is assigned one IPv6 address, and pools of 4,096 shareable IPv6 addresses can be requested at no charge.
13:23<wrg>got discount if 1 block 255 ?
13:23<@caker>nope
13:23<wrg>is expansive
13:23<wrg>:(
13:23<@caker>welcome to reality
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13:27<wrg>!uptime
13:27<linbot>wrg: I have been running for 31 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 16 minutes, and 20 seconds.
13:27<wrg>!price
13:27<hawk>that's a lot of running
13:27<Daevien>caker: are you being mean again and not giving spammers hundreds of IPs so they can make link farms that dont' really help them?
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13:27<Daevien>caker: if so, keep up the good work :)
13:28<squircle>linbot o/
13:28<linbot>\o squircle
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13:29<wrg>!offer
13:30<wrg>!promo
13:30<@heckman>wrg: what are you looking for?
13:30<wrg>any promotion package
13:30<@heckman>There are no active promotions right now. Unless you had caught us at a conference.
13:30<wrg>got any nice package intro ?
13:30<wrg>i`m newbie
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13:42<squircle>if I receive one more bounce from a provider about a full abuse mailbox...
13:42<squircle>why don't ISPs check these things?!
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13:44<Consdale>wrg: in that price is excellent service, servers and everything else! 300 days + uptime, not had a single failure because of Linode.
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13:51<squircle>linbot: ipinfo 188.138.40.166
13:51<linbot>squircle: IP: 188.138.40.166; rDNS: loft4826.serverloft.eu; ASN adv net: 188.138.0.0/17; ASN: AS8972; ASN owner: intergenia AG; Abuse contact(s): abuse@plusserver.de; Country: Germany; Domains: 5; http://revip.info/ipinfo/188.138.40.166
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13:58<squircle>hah... "sshd[4243]: Invalid user harrypotter from 31.31.203.164"
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13:59<forcelfow>hello!
13:59<forcelfow>i'm doing ajax request against my django app deployed with mod_wsgi behind nginx serving assets
13:59<forcelfow>it's a fairly large request (1000s of characters), but it takes about 3 minutes to hit the server
13:59<forcelfow>it seems to scale with the amount of data (i.e., a smaller request takes less time)
13:59<forcelfow>this still seems like an incredible amount of time for a request to take
13:59<forcelfow>any ideas about how i should debug this?
14:00<forcelfow>i'm on a linode 1536
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14:01<rnowak>user firebug, nginx's access logs, apache's access logs, and any logs that your application (server) is emitting
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14:04<linbot>New news from forums: Postfix: I would like to duplicate all incoming emails in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8610>
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14:09<linbot>New news from forums: Configure Name-based Virtual Hosts in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8653>
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14:26<NewbieNewb>I don't suppose there's any way to do hourly billing with Linode? I hate adding a node for $xx a month and then deleting, getting credited $yy when I need to just test something on a fresh node.
14:26<mwalling>NewbieNewb: daily billing
14:29<NewbieNewb>Hmm, I can't find anything about that
14:30<Zr40>NewbieNewb: you'll be charged for the entire month (or remainder for it if you created a Linode after the first day of the month), but when you delete a Linode you get refunded for the remaining time
14:31<NewbieNewb>I hate adding a node for $xx a month and then deleting, getting credited $yy when I need to just test something on a fresh node.
14:31<npmr>use vagrant instead?
14:31<Zr40>oh, I missed that. I should pay more attention. :)
14:33<linbot>New news from blog: DNS AXFR ACLs and IPv6 masters <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-slaves/>
14:33<NewbieNewb>Oh well
14:33<@caker>make that http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-masters/
14:33<NewbieNewb>Linode can add it to the "would be nice to have wishlist" :)
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14:34<NewbieNewb>most things I can do on ec2 - this one thing though...
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14:38<linbot>New news from blog: DNS AXFR ACLs and IPv6 masters <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-masters/>
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14:40<Nivex>YESSSSS!!!!
14:40<mwalling>NewbieNewb: $xx - $yy == 1/(days in month) * (monthly plan cost)
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14:43<mwalling>also, $yy/$xx == (days in month - 1)/(days in month) (i think)
14:43<@heckman>Nivex: you're welcome. :)
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14:43<Zr40>caker: could you explain the bit about api_spec() where you wrote about dynamically implementing the API? It doesn't seem useful at all for that purpose; you still need to be able to identify the methods you need -- unless you suggest randomly calling methods
14:45<Nivex>heckman: $BEVERAGE to you sir!
14:47<@caker>Zr40: a human still needs to know what method it wants to call --- but the tool or binding or whatever doesn't need to have all the methods and params hardcoded. Not sure what you're asking me
14:47<@caker>Zr40: have you implemented a binding or tool against the API? It's painful because you need to dupe all the methods and stuff in the binding/tool
14:48<vodka>is there any way to automate setting the PTR for a linode's ipv4 adress?
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14:48<@heckman>vodka: find a cheap human :P
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14:49<vodka>hah ;p
14:49<@caker>now it can be like: onStartupping() { load spec from URL }, onHumanTellingMeToRunSomething() { does the method they want exist in the spec? OK - lemme now check the params they gave me against the spec .. OK, now lemme actually make the API call and make sure it doesn't error with one of the errors in the spec} .. etc
14:49<JoeSa>My website [hosted via Linode] is displaying an old page to users who viewed the website before I switched it to Linode. Anyone know how I can resolve this weird caching issue for the users? [It's causing mass confusion amongst them]
14:49<rnowak>startupping all the things
14:50<rnowak>JoeSa: mass confusion?
14:50<@caker>JoeSa: they or their ISP still have the old DNS entry pointing to old hosting, perhaps? if that's the case - gotta wait out the TTL. Get them to do a dns lookup and provide you with the result to check
14:50<rnowak>like, screaming, running around ripping hair out?
14:50<JoeSa>mowak: Exactly like that :L
14:50<Nivex>ruh roh: "• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address."
14:50<Zr40>caker: Right. I see it's useful for that purpose. I was thinking it was directed at the direct user of the API
14:50<rnowak>!to JoeSa mowak
14:50<rnowak>someone removed !to? oh well, it was quite useful
14:50<@caker>Nivex: looking
14:51<JoeSa>caker:I've waited several hours now - I assume the TTL would have passed by now. I'm one of the users it's screwing up for, I can do a DNS lookup if you want
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14:51<@caker>don't assume - do you know what the TTL was *before* you switched it to Linode?
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14:52<NewbieNewb>Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think about this
14:52<vodka>heckman: so setting up a nameserver and such won't work the way it does for ipv6?
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14:52<JoeSa>caker: It was hosted by GoDaddy's one-page-hosting *shudders*
14:52<@heckman>Nivex: PM?
14:52<@caker>JoeSa: I'm would suspect their TTL was at least 24 hours ...
14:52<@caker>s/I'm/I/
14:52<@heckman>vodka: not sue what you mean
14:52<vodka>as in this post: http://forum.linode.com/archive/o_t/t_4273/dns_manager_ptr_record_support.html
14:52<JoeSa>caker: Ok, so pretty much after that people should stop seeing the wrong version? Would you mind explaining TTL to me? I always seem to run into weird caching things like this
14:52<NewbieNewb>I set up a VPS at another host, installed Apache, and was getting 23-25 ms time per requests. On Linode I'm getting 79-92 ms
14:53<NewbieNewb>same setup, clean centos 6.x apache only install, load an html file that says "Hello!"
14:53<@caker>NewbieNewb: making a single request, or using ab or what?
14:53<@caker>NewbieNewb: this is total time - including network? We don't control the Internets :(
14:53<NewbieNewb>using ab, 10,000 requests, 10 concurrent
14:54<@heckman>vodka: still not sure I follow
14:54<@caker>NewbieNewb: ping difference between the two?
14:54<NewbieNewb>that's what i'm trying to figure out. Their network was New York, I'm using Dallas linode
14:54<NewbieNewb>ok
14:54<@caker>well there you go
14:54<@caker>that's 40-50ms right there
14:54<@caker>depending on where you are, of course
14:55<vodka>heckman, might be me misunderstanding stuff… the way I understand that forum post is that they set up nsd to serve <myipv6address>.ip6.arpa
14:55<@heckman>vodka: this allows our name servers to AXFR from yours *over* IPv4
14:55<@heckman>er...IPv6
14:55<@heckman>You could only do it via IPv4 before
14:56<NewbieNewb>OK, I'll try differnt center
14:56<NewbieNewb>data center
14:56<rnowak>!speedtest NewbieNewb
14:56<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
14:56<@caker>NewbieNewb: if you're comparing against something in New York, then use our Newark DC to reduce geographic difference as much as possible
14:56<NewbieNewb>OK
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14:57<Ecksley>My php.ini file allows for 'upload_max_filesize = 10M' and 'post_max_size = 20M', my folder permissions are 777, but I can't seem to upload a small PDF on my Drupal site. The progress wheel spins endlessly. I set up the server myself so I am wondering if I did something wrong. I should say I'm running nginx. Can you think of anything obvious I could investigate? Thanks for any help.
14:57<NewbieNewb>I'll have to remove the linode and create a brand new one, right?
14:57<vodka>heckman: I am not talking about the blog post, but the forum post I linked - they mention PTR records and reverse dns for ipv6. Am I just misreading that post completely?
14:57<@caker>that's fastest -- or you can open a ticket, we stage a migration, you press the button, and your existing Linode and its bits are moved - but that may take some time to transfer across the tubes
14:58<@heckman>They are talking about their HE IPv6 tunnel I think
14:58<JoeSa>caker: Is there any way to reset the TTL my browser uses without clearing the whole cache? [Google Chrome]
14:58<@heckman>We aren't delegating IPv6 RDNS.
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14:59<@caker>JoeSa: it's not your TTL, it's the DNS servers your computer is using (your ISPs?). You have two options: Switch your computer to use resolvers that don't have the stale cached version -- or edit your computer's /etc/hosts file and hardcode an entry
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14:59<@caker>or wait.
14:59<vodka>heckman: ok :) thank you for the explanation :)
15:00<@caker>but, I'd make sure this is actually what's going on. Ask someone who is getting the old page to do a dns lookupping and give you the result. If the result is the old IP then it's confirmed.
15:00<JoeSa>caker: Oh right, that's the way it works. I always wondered why my other computer never has the cache problems - so can't I reset the TTL on this computer without manually adding a TTL entry?
15:00<JoeSa>caker: hosts entry*
15:00<@caker>heh
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15:00<@caker>your local computer might be caching it too ..
15:00<@caker>what OS?
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15:00<JoeSa>Mac OS X Lion
15:01<@caker>sudo dscacheutil -flushcache <-- I think?
15:01<@caker>maybe sudo isn't required
15:01<JoeSa>sudo can't hurt :P
15:01<Evocore>I tried generating a csr with openssl for an ssl cert, and I specified the -out and -key locations, but each of those files starts with Begin Certificate and Begin RSA Private Key. The SSL company just told me that the file should have Begin Certificate Signing Request. Did I do something wrong?
15:01<Evocore>I used sudo openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.pem -keyout /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.key
15:02<JoeSa>caker: After using that, Chrome is still displaying the old version. Is this Chrome's cachine, or the ISP cachine or something else? I hate caching sometimes :L
15:03<@caker>could be the browser to. reboot all things
15:03<@caker>+o
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15:03<NewbieNewb>Woot!
15:03<NewbieNewb>18-21 ms!
15:05<JoeSa>caker: It's still doing it after a reboot. I guess waiting 24 hours should fix it up fine though, I have no real problem with that for the time being. Can assets also have TTLs then? because I've had multiple caching issues with resources which are kinda similar to this in the past
15:06<NewbieNewb>I neevr realized how much location matters. But I guess it makes sense :)
15:08<@caker>15:00 <@caker> but, I'd make sure this is actually what's going on. Ask someone who is getting the old page to do a dns lookupping and give you the result. If the result is the old IP then it's confirmed.
15:08*Katana flips rnowak's table
15:08<rnowak>rude
15:08<staticsafe>!flip
15:08<linbot>(╯°□°)╯彡/(.□ . \)
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15:08<Katana>ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(; ̄◇ ̄)┘
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15:09<JoeSa>caker: How can I do the lookup? [I'm affected by the problem myself]
15:10<hawk>dig is nice
15:10<JoeSa>dig gets the correct IP address though
15:10<Evocore>Does anyone know is that the wrong way to generate a ssl cert, I followed the linode library?
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15:12*squircle fixes rnowak's table
15:12<rnowak>Evocore: change the extension to .csr and see what happens
15:12<squircle>!fixtable
15:12<linbot>┳━┳ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
15:12<rnowak>squircle: thanks!
15:12<squircle>anytime!
15:12<Evocore>cp apache.pem apache.csr?
15:12<rnowak>Evocore: generate a new one, specifying .csr as the extension for the csr
15:13<Evocore>sure thing
15:13<rnowak>(not sure if that's all there's to your issue, but openssl does change how it works depending on specified endings)
15:13<JoeSa>caker: So what do I do if 'dig' gets the correct IP, but even with using a browser I haven't used before, the wrong page is displayed?
15:14<Ecksley>Should I be mindful of anything other than 'upload_max_filesize' and 'post_max_size' if my site if having trouble upload a 3mb file?
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15:14<@heckman>JoeSa: /etc/hosts ?
15:14<@heckman>Also, are you digging on the same box you are viewing the page from?
15:14<Katana>JoeSa: you are doing both dig and chrome views from the same system,
15:14<Katana>close chrome, reopen it.
15:14<Katana>it maintains a local dns cache.
15:15<JoeSa>heckman: Katana: Doing everything from the same system. Didn't restart Chrome, but I opened and closed and re-opened Firefox and got the same results.
15:15<JoeSa>Katana: Oh, so I need to restart _every_ web browser?
15:15<Evocore>rnowak: still says Begin Certificate at the top
15:15<Katana>no, just chrome
15:15<Katana>or try opening up: chrome://net-internals/#dns
15:15<rnowak>Evocore: paste the command you run again
15:15<Katana>make sure you're on the dns tab, then click "clear host cache" button
15:16<Evocore>sudo openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.csr -keyout /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.key
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15:17<Katana>JoeSa: if dig is giving you the right ip though, that should mean that it's a dns caching issue with something system level or application level, anyways
15:17<rnowak>Evocore: remove -x509
15:17<JoeSa>Katana: Pressed the button - Chrome has the same result.
15:17<Katana>windows or *nix system btw
15:17<JoeSa>Katana: Right. So it's a problem somewhere on my system. BLEH, I have TTL. I guess restarting everything should fix it up fine?
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15:18<@heckman>Have you checked the network tab of Chrome to see where it's connecting to?
15:18<JoeSa>Katana: hate*
15:18<Katana>JoeSa: ...windows or *nix system?
15:18<Evocore>rnowak: it now says begin certificate request, looks like it might work
15:18<JoeSa>Katana: I'm on OS X
15:18<rnowak>Evocore: that's what it is supposed to say
15:18<Evocore>its strange the differences between the 2 docs
15:18<JoeSa>heckman: It does that? I'll take a look
15:18<rnowak>Evocore: huh?
15:18<Evocore>i originally followed the subjectaltname docs
15:18<Evocore>which had the -x509
15:18<@heckman>JoeSa: there's some network extra info tab somewhere, yeah. I forget where it hides.
15:18<rnowak>Evocore: `man req`
15:19<Katana>heckman: settings button on the lower left maybe
15:19<rnowak>Evocore: adding -x509 signs the certificate, so you create a self-signed cert instead of a request
15:19<JoeSa>heckman: It's the same IP that 'dig' gets me - I think that's the right IP, lemme just double check
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15:19<Evocore>ahhh
15:19<Evocore>well thank you very much for your time, i appreciate it
15:19<rnowak>Evocore: man pages are there for a reason
15:20<Evocore>first time working with certs and running man
15:20<JoeSa>heckman: caker: My bad, 'dig' gets me the WRONG IP [and hence Chrome is using the wrong IP]
15:20<@heckman>And now you know. :)
15:21<JoeSa>So it's an ISP thing?
15:21<@heckman>ISP resolver or cache on local PC
15:21<JoeSa>heckman: Methinks cache, because my PC [sitting right next to this Mac] displays the page perfeclt.y
15:21<JoeSa>perfectly*
15:21<hawk>JoeSa: The dig output will include which server you got that answer from
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15:22<JoeSa>hawk: It says 192.168.0.1, which methinks is the main router [which both are using]
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16:01<squircle>AXFR ACLs?! yay!
16:01<squircle>(I know I'm late)
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16:03<hugo>Hi. I just signup for a vps, and I'm in the step of choosing a datacenter. Is there any addresses I could ping to check latency, from my place?
16:03<hugo>I mean one per datacenter
16:04<retro|blah>!speedtest
16:04<linbot>http://www.linode.com/speedtest
16:04<retro|blah>Use that
16:05<hugo>Great. Thanks!
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16:06<quist>Can I pay for just an increase in storage space? How much is it per gb? I looked on the website, but couldn't find anything.
16:06<squircle>!extras
16:06<linbot>Available extras: Disk: $ 1 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IPv4 addresses: $ 1 per address/month. To add extras, visit the Extras tab on a Linode.
16:06<quist>thanks dude
16:06<squircle>it's generally worth just upgrading the linode, though
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16:14<Ecksley>Can anyone help me with a file upload issue I am having - possible related to Nginx config, and Drupal?
16:14<Consdale>!ask
16:14<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
16:14<Ecksley>Is that a Don't ask or and ASK!
16:15<squircle>well, read the bot's factoid! ;)
16:15<Consdale>Feel free to ask. :)
16:17<Ecksley>Basically, when I attempt to upload a file of say 3MB the wheel spins endlessly. My PHP ini appear to be okay? upload_max_filesize = 10M, post_max_size = 20M. File permission are 777 on destination folder. I'm wondering if there is something Nginx related I should do differently? And thank you. I really do appreciate you time and help.
16:19<Ecksley>I should say that I'm sort of lightweight when it comes to the server stuff.
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16:20<rnowak>do smaller uploads go through fine?
16:21<Ecksley>rnowalk: Yes
16:22<rnowak>are you giving it enough time to upload the file? what's your upload like?
16:22<Ecksley>After letting the wheel spin for a ver long time and trying to save the node I received the following nginx promt: 413 Request Entity Too Large. The file is a 3.3MB PDF.
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16:23<rnowak>ok, so change client_max_body_size in nginx to something a bit larger than 20MB
16:24<Ecksley>Max_execution_time was 30. I changes it to 0 which I understand is unlimited?
16:24<rnowak>nginx buffers the upload, your script isn't hit until it is done
16:24<rnowak>ok, so change client_max_body_size in nginx to something a bit larger than 20MB
16:24<rnowak>^doeet
16:25<Ecksley>Where is this? nginx.conf?
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16:25<rnowak>http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpCoreModule#client_max_body_size
16:25<Evocore>I ran the basic security stack script and it setup the sudoers and wheel user groups. It also placed my user account into sshusers and wheel. Im trying to sftp now and do not have permissions to do anything because of this. What is a standard secure setup for your main user account. Should I edit /etc/sudoers and give it all permissions, or should I create a new user group that has permissions?
16:25<rnowak>Ecksley: http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpCoreModule#client_max_body_size
16:26<io_>hi i need to create an sftp user with access to his own home directory
16:26<rnowak>!library sftp jail io_
16:26<linbot>rnowak: 1. Limiting Access with SFTP Jails on Debian and Ubuntu - http://library.linode.com/security/sftp-jails | 2. Transfer Files with Filezilla on Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-filezilla-ubuntu-9.10 | 3. Transfer Files with Cyberduck on Mac OS X - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-cyberduck
16:26<io_>actually i did it once but i forgot where the doco is
16:27<io_>rnowak: i ve already setuo sfto jails
16:27<rnowak>ok?
16:27<io_>so i just add a user and that s it?
16:28<io_>do i need it to be part of a specific group?
16:28<rnowak>eh? read the above article
16:28<io_>ok add to the filetrasnfer group
16:28<io_>let s try
16:30<Evocore>rnowak: It looks like this could be useful for my needs aswell. Should it work similar but instead of jailing them I change the public_html folders to be owned by my user and the group?
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16:31<rnowak>Evocore: If the account is for yourself, just add it to sudoers and be done with it
16:32<Evocore>should the www/... be owned by root:root? or patrick:(some group that apache can write with)?
16:33<rnowak>apache should not be able to write to your document root
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16:33<Evocore>ah right, so just the logs/ and cache/ folder
16:34<rnowak>as long as you're not hoping to be able to use those logs for auditing purposes
16:34<rnowak>and depending on what is in the cache directory, you might open up for an attack as well
16:35<Evocore>is root:root typically the standard setup for the /srv/www folders?
16:36<rnowak>it can be
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16:37<Ecksley>rnowak: You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for your help. That did it. Much appreciated!!!
16:38<@heckman>pretty sure he's a mohawk
16:38<mwalling>heckman: thats a river
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16:39<rnowak>heckman: saw rnowalk? pretty new one
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17:17<Consdale>Graphics temperature - 106C ouch
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17:42<io_>hallo i am getting this error 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 any idea?
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17:46<Kyhwana>io_: need more context
17:56<Katana>rnowalc
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18:09<tharkun>Who can i bug to see if my CC billing was accepted?
18:12<@caker>tharkun: Account tab
18:12<io_>Kyhwana: thanks i ve found out, it was bind-address in my.cnf
18:13<tharkun>caker: where do i get that?
18:15<@caker>tharkun: https://manager.linode.com/account
18:16<tharkun>caker: ok login in thanks and sorry for the inconviniences
18:16<@caker>no worries - glad I could help
18:19<tharkun>Is there a way to set up a secondary email address to recieve billing information?
18:19<@caker>tharkun: Account tab -> Edit Contact Information .. the email address there gets invoices and payments
18:19<@caker>or you could add another user (Users & Permissions) and they'll get invoices and such if they're an unrestricted user.
18:19<@caker>(or have that grant, I think)
18:20<tharkun>caker: ok. I'll explore the aditional user part
18:20<@caker>really it's easiest to just add it to the contact info .. but do as you wish! :)
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18:22<Eman_>caker do you have any plans to do any more server selloffs?
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18:23<@caker>Eman: who knows. it's a lot of effort. can't really say
18:24<Eman>ok
18:24<Eman>thanks
18:25<tharkun>caker: Isue totally fixed. Next drink on the beach is to your health. Cheers
18:26<@caker>cheers!
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18:31<bdfoster>heyoh
18:31<linbot>hello
18:33<bdfoster>is the private network supposed to be slower than the connection to the internet?
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18:34<bdfoster>i.e. i grabbed a test file on linode one, at 7mbps, and then grabbed the same file from linode 2 off of linode 1 and it's about 50 percent slower
18:34<@caker>We rate limit outbound to 50Mbps at the NIC level - inbound is not limited. If you need higher bps file a ticket
18:34<bdfoster>ah
18:35<@caker>you grabbed that file from a remote server to a Linode = inbound traffic which isn't limited
18:35<bdfoster>not really a limiting factor, just curious
18:35<squircle>!bandwidth
18:35<linbot>Outbound bandwidth from your Linode is capped at 50mbps to keep you from eating your entire transfer quota in an hour. You can have this limit raised by submitting a support ticket with appropriate justification.
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18:36<bdfoster>gotcha. that's fine with me just wondering is all
18:36<bdfoster>i guess another question, does outbound traffic on the private net count towards your transfer allotment?
18:36<@caker>negative
18:37<@mikegrb>lulz
18:37<bdfoster>alrighty sounds good lol
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19:17<bob2>caker, has anything changed that could make the two-nics approach to the public/private network thing work better?
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19:19<StevenK>bob2: Two NICs? ip a a on eth0 and move on?
19:20<bob2>StevenK, sure, but the bandwidth limiting is at the nic level
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19:25<GLaDOSDan>http://i.imgur.com/hTdPv.jpg - Thank you /r/sysadmin
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21:05<griz>Hello all.
21:05<griz>Anyone know if it's possible to disable ipv6? Think I've jumped in over my head...
21:06<purrdeta>it isnt, why disable it though?
21:06<retro|blah>Disable in what sense?
21:06<purrdeta>well that too
21:06<Kyhwana>griz: why?
21:07<griz>I was trying to set up an additional ip address and static networking, thought I'd enable ipv6 while I was at it, then found out there's a lot more to it than just pressing that button. Now I'm facing problems and I don't know what the cause is. I'm trying to isolate it.
21:08<griz>Should have done my reasearch :/
21:08<Kyhwana>They're seperate. But whats your problem, to start
21:08<MTecknology>uhm.... wow 20:06:56 up 41 min, 1 user, load average: 1251.61, 1173.71, 1068.48
21:09<@caker>heh
21:09<MTecknology>it's a web crawler server
21:09<@caker>griz: IPv6 autoconfigures. You don't do anything special for it.
21:09<@caker>so if you're having problems, look elsewhere
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21:09<griz>MTech, is that me? and why is that wow?
21:10<MTecknology>griz: hm?
21:10<griz>Well, it was either DNS or something to do with aegir, which all my sites are running on.
21:10<@akerl>If someone in #linode can pull uptime stats on your server, there is a problem...
21:10<bob2>tl;dr explain what problem you are experiencing
21:10<griz>yeah, I was slightly curious / afraid for a sec there!
21:10<bob2>as always in every channel on every network
21:11<@caker>griz: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ? maybe we can help --- p.linode.com
21:11<griz>thought it might be staff, griz is my username
21:12<griz>thanks caker. Not sure anyone can help right now... I've also been having trouble with backups recently and I can't even restore anything atm. I have nothing to work with and I'm waiting for post processing to finish on the last snapshot before trying again.
21:14<griz>It's wierd because if I enter the FQDN of my server I get the single html page that's hosted there, but nothing on aegir works after I've gone through the static IP guide.
21:14<griz>No doubt I'll be back here shortly when I've got the damn thing booted again.
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21:20<griz>In the meantime can anyone tell me what "Unable to get backup lock for restore. " actually means?
21:21<@akerl>Is one of your backups in post processing?
21:21<griz>yerp.
21:21<@akerl>It means that.
21:21<griz>Yeah, thought as much.
21:27<griz>I can't believe comic sans is an option.
21:27<griz>Though it might make it hard to get into arguments.
21:33<staticsafe>:o
21:34<griz>o_0
21:35<griz>needsPostProcessing
21:36<bob2>is aegir some php web app
21:36<griz>yeah. It's good if you don't break it.
21:37<griz>it's for deploying drupal in many flavours.
21:37<Kyh_>fix it so you can't break it
21:37<bob2>yeah, ipv6 is not the problem
21:38<griz>Yeah, I can see that now. I was just bricking it because I changed too much at once and in this case there's no undo button.
21:38<Kyh_>griz: there's these cool things called version control systems these days
21:39<griz>Kyh, for controlling versions of what?
21:39<purrdeta>your edits
21:39<griz>to
21:39<Kyh_>whatever you broke
21:39<purrdeta>I dunno, whatever you broke
21:40<griz>hmm. I've used git but I don't think that'll help me set up static networking.
21:40<rnowak>etckeeper, it will enable you to unfuck stuff
21:41<purrdeta>we are referring to your comment "I changed to much at once... no undo button"
21:41<Kyh_>+1 to etckeeper
21:41<griz>now that sounds more like it.
21:41<griz>thanks, i'd not heard of that.
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21:44<griz>what do you guys do for a living?
21:45<rnowak>baws around
21:45<purrdeta>I am a student. I part time work at my university with IT support.
21:45<griz>nice.
21:46<griz><- student. Not IT. Who'd have guessed.
21:46<purrdeta>I'm actually not an IT student either. I just work there :)
21:46<@heckman>I'm a Linode employee
21:46<@heckman>>_>
21:47<@heckman>I guess there was real no surprise there
21:47<rnowak>YOU DON'T SAY
21:47<purrdeta>I am surprised!
21:47<purrdeta>rnowak is a pastry eater yes?
21:47<purrdeta>or should I say mowak.
21:47<rnowak>part time pastry eater, part time chemical engineer, part time awesome, but only part time
21:48<purrdeta>connoisseur is a better word I imagine for your pastry festivities.
21:48<rnowak>mhm that does sound better indeed
21:48<rnowak>aficionado, so to say
21:48<purrdeta>ah yes
21:49<rnowak>though that applies more to coffee than pastry
21:49<rnowak>I just love stuffing my face with pastry (:
21:49<griz>chemical engineering + pastry expertise -> serious baking
21:49<rnowak>I take my coffee vrysrs
21:49<purrdeta>I am so hungry.
21:51<griz>purrdeta, you have the internet... so many ways to fix that problem.
21:51<griz>the horror...
21:51<@Perihelion>papa johns has a 25% coupon today :3
21:52<purrdeta>hah. I am in class, however. So it must wait
21:52<rnowak>I more than once left a class because I wanted to nom, fuck class, give me my noms.
21:52<purrdeta>I agree. But he hasnt taken attendance yet and I've put in this much time, I will get recognized for it. :P
21:53<rnowak>haha
21:53<purrdeta>I just want to graduate. Soon enough, I suppose.
21:53<griz>Ah, I hate that. All our lecturers take the register at the start except ONE. And everyone knows why.
21:53<purrdeta>griz: what are you studying?
21:54<griz>Because he's so boring that if he didn't take it at the end everybody would leave.
21:54<griz>Sound engineering.
21:54<rnowak>lulz attendance, like kindergarten
21:54<purrdeta>griz: this is a 3 hour class. People leave in the middle otherwise. So I dont blame him. He took attendance at the beginning for a bit and now at the end :)
21:54<rnowak>don't wanna be there -> your problem
21:54<griz>This man makes the most fascinating subjects mind-numbing.
21:54<purrdeta>This is the USA, we must be babysat :)
21:54<purrdeta>griz: interesting
21:54<purrdeta>at least for me, it is the USA
21:55<rnowak>how are you in class right now in the US?
21:55<rnowak>night skewl?
21:55<purrdeta>It's almost 9PM :)
21:55<@Perihelion>None of my professors took attendance
21:55<purrdeta>sorta. 6:30-9:30PM :/
21:55<@Perihelion>they were just like "youre an adult, make your own decisions"
21:55<purrdeta>Once a week, yay
21:55<rnowak>Perihelion: that's how it goes here
21:55<purrdeta>Perihelion: most of mine are. some arent. Some give extra credit of sorts if you come
21:55<rnowak>except for classes which do not have a written exam; those require attendance to pass, which is pretty obvious
21:56<Nivex>my profs were all "You paid to be here. I don't care if you don't show up."
21:56<@Perihelion>yeah exactly
21:56<@Perihelion>Where is mein pizza? :<
21:56<rnowak>nommed it
21:56<purrdeta>I get annoyed at people who pay for a class and then never show up and also complain about how poor they are and how tuition is so high and shit :/
21:57<griz>I wish the magic Linode monkeys would hurry up Process my Post.
21:57<rnowak>well, it depends on lecturer -- some you're better off without
21:57<purrdeta>hehe
21:57<Gshock>Make people take a bunch of bullshit classes they dont want for a bullshit degree and its easy to see how things get that way though
21:58<Nivex>http://www.nivex.net/emerson.txt
21:59<@Perihelion>Si
21:59<purrdeta>yup
21:59<griz>nice
22:00<Nivex>only one of you got that over IPv6.
22:00<praetorian>Perihelion: Si
22:00<purrdeta>Everyone always told me... "When you get to your major classes you get to take ones you want!" Partially false. I still have to take several classes I dont want as it is required. :)
22:00<@heckman>Nivex: what's the IP?
22:01<Nivex>2001:470:1f07:1251:6aa8:6dff:fe0b:448a
22:01<rnowak>IPv6 is a fad
22:01<Nivex>rnowak: just like the Internet
22:01<@heckman>hrm, my PTR record for that IP looks messed.
22:01<purrdeta>and computers actually
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22:01<griz>right... massive noobshine imminent...
22:02<@heckman>Oh, apparently I forgot to add it
22:02<griz>when I paste that IP I just get search results.
22:02<Nivex>2600:3c00::1b:a001
22:02<@heckman>griz: which IP?
22:02<Nivex>that's a Dallas pool
22:03<retro|blah>Enclose them in []s if you're pasting into a browser
22:03<@heckman>Also, there's no web server running on my MacBook Air...so..
22:03<rnowak>heckman: there should be!
22:03<griz>thankyou retro|blah
22:03<purrdeta>it should host cats
22:03<retro|blah>Well
22:04<griz>not sure how many cats you could fit in a macbook.
22:05<purrdeta>many many a cat.
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22:05<griz>I think you could get a few in a 2u case.
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22:06<@heckman>Okay, PTR record added
22:06<Kyhwana>hrm
22:06<Nivex>nice
22:07<Kyhwana>Oh, I havn't added a ptr for that IP
22:08<griz>how long does post processing usually take? I know it'll be dependent on the amount of stuff backed up. This one only took 7 mins... been waiting for pp for about an hour now.
22:10<griz>Ah, n/m. I know that's not an answerable question.
22:10<griz>but... is it queued up with other ppls?
22:10<purrdeta>probably
22:11<griz>yeah, must be. doesn't use the server's cpu so...
22:12<griz>frack. I can't go to bed with my server not even booted. I suck at this almost as much as I suck at telehack.
22:12<@akerl>Why isn't your Linode booted?
22:13<griz>I lasted about half an hour and started reading an essay on star wars vs star trek.
22:13<griz>Because I can't restore any backups.
22:14<griz>and I deleted my other filesystem before restoring. So many lessons in such a short time.
22:14<@akerl>Oh
22:14<griz>yeah.
22:15<griz>spsoe I could restore to another linode
22:15<griz>or... not?
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22:17<griz>http://xkcd.com/963/
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22:18<purrdeta>hah
22:18<Kyhwana>?
22:18<griz>but replace "open xorg.conf" with "reboot linode"
22:18<purrdeta>class is finally over. bbl.
22:18<griz>bye purrdeta
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22:25<griz>03:25... time to snore.
22:25<griz>thanks and bye all.
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22:36<MTecknology>so... capsaicin crystals in my nose
22:36<MTecknology>wow
22:36<@heckman>Sell em on eBay
22:37<MTecknology>no thanks, makes food awesome
22:37<rnowak>...
22:38<MTecknology>?
22:39<rnowak>because it is totally sane to add pure capsaicin crystals to cooking, what a stupid thing to do
22:39<MTecknology>it's not pure cap...
22:39<rnowak>then it isn't capsaicin crystals
22:40<MTecknology>only 15,200,000 SHU, pure is 16,000,000
22:40<rnowak>still retarded
22:40<MTecknology>why?
22:41<rnowak>are you seriously asking why it is stupid to be cooking with near-to-pure capsaicin? nevermind, continue, I guess darwin needs his game to play out
22:41<MTecknology>The dumb part is rubbing your nose and sniffling. The amazing part is adding it to food.
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22:46<MTecknology>rnowak: also... if you actually eat pure cap crystals you wouldn't notice it, it has to be mixed, What I use is about 50% so it's really only ~7,600,000 SHU. http://www.texascreekproducts.com/products.html first one
22:47<rnowak>I work as an organic chemist, I know what capsaicin is, thanks
22:48<rnowak>and if you don't notice pure capsaicine, why don't you try inhaling some
22:48<rnowak>-e
22:48<mbreslin>i'm familiar with grain and hops
22:48<mbreslin>not sure if that helps
22:48<mbreslin>just putting it out there
22:49<MTecknology>I didn't say I don't notice it. I enjoy the heat.
22:49<@heckman>I set some stuff on fire once.
22:49<avenj>I killed a man in Reno.
22:49<MTecknology>I ate a brownie once.
22:49<mbreslin>that was dumb, probably be caught
22:49<mbreslin>should have killed him in vegas
22:50<avenj>I'm not sure that "stays in vegas" applies to warrant extradition for first degree murder, mbreslin
22:50<avenj>but I'll keep it in mind
22:50<rnowak>MTecknology: you said you wouldn't notice it if you ate it pure
22:50<rnowak>MTecknology: why don't you try (:
22:50-!-klono_ is now known as zz_klono_
22:50<mbreslin>everyone knows the saying
22:50<mbreslin>what happens in reno, gets forwarded to the fbi
22:51<mbreslin>don't mind me i'm still pissy from not winning the lottery
22:51<rnowak>mbreslin: better luck next time huh
22:51<avenj>I think probably you just didn't buy enough tickets
22:51<mbreslin>i wish!
22:51<mbreslin>it'll be the same exact luck, stupid statistics!
22:51<MTecknology>rnowak: It has to be disolved.
22:52<pharaun>then dissolve it on your tongue
22:52<MTecknology>it won't
22:52<rnowak>ha ha
22:52<pharaun>lemme guess, you need to dissolve it with the heats of a thousands SHU >:3
22:52<MTecknology>needs to be disolved in things like butane, alcohol, or some oil
22:52<MTecknology>pharaun: ha!
22:52<pharaun>olive oil it is then, drink that and take some
22:52<rnowak>I'll dare you, crush it up into a powder, and inhale it. Disclaimer: I will have no liability. Also, you may want to call for an ambulance.
22:53<pharaun>double dare
22:53<mbreslin>do you think if i was the single winner and won the 346 million or whatever i would have any pull in getting diablo3 before the may 15th release date?
22:53<MTecknology>rnowak: I get the feeling you really don't know much about it and I'm going to end the discussion here.
22:53<pharaun>mbreslin: probably not
22:53<mbreslin>(serious (hypothetical) question)
22:53<pharaun>mbreslin: tho if you encouraged someone to ahem leak for payment, i suppose
22:54<mbreslin>pharaun: not worth it then!
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22:54<rnowak>MTecknology: hahahahahahahahaha
22:55<@Perihelion>Soda just came out of mein nose.
22:55<MTecknology>ouchy
22:55<pharaun>Perihelion: enjoy the burning
22:58<XReaper>heh
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23:10*Katana looks in, sees rnowak infuriated
23:10<Katana>I guess my job is already done here
23:10<Katana>ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(
23:11<Katana>erm.
23:11<Katana>ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(; ̄◇ ̄)┘
23:11<rnowak>Katana: more like lulzermaoing
23:11*Katana smacks borked alias
23:12<auraka>when is rnowak not infuriated....he drink hatorade all day
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23:13<auraka>drinks*
23:14<XReaper>ha
23:14<MTecknology>I bought a 21yr old scotch today, second bestest booze i ever drank
23:16<MTecknology>amazing tequila costs only 1/2 as much as amazing scotch :) no hatorade, but still good
23:16<XReaper>Heh
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23:38<linbot>New news from forums: Monitor Outgoing Traffic in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8651>
23:40<Peng>>.>
23:40<XReaper>Its STILL GOING?
23:40<XReaper>turned into a troll-fest
23:40<@heckman>It is?
23:40<@heckman>Yes It is
23:41<@mikegrb>lulz
23:41<rnowak>I lol'd
23:41<rnowak>a lot of lulzing today
23:41<XReaper>yup
23:42<rnowak>Peng keeps it going, like the energizer bunny
23:44<Peng>If I'd noticed the date I probably wouldn't have posted.
23:45<XReaper>Ha!
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23:45<Peng>On a more pleasant subject, IPv6 DNS masters! \o/
23:45<Peng>s/more pleasant/less embarrassing
23:45<Peng>/
23:46<XReaper>AFXR ACL's!
23:46<rnowak>less is more
23:46<XReaper>The ACL's... i saw a mention from a post a few YEARS ago talking about adding those
23:46<Peng>"• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address." What.
23:46<@mikegrb>lulz
23:46<XReaper>Lol...
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23:47<auraka>Peng: out of curiosity try 0.0.0.0
23:47<auraka>or 0.0.0.0/0
23:47<daftspunk>hey guys need some help with vsftpd , i installed and set up successfully, when i log in via a client and do "ls" it just sits there
23:47<Kyhwana>hmmm
23:47<auraka>daftspunk: first question...did you google?
23:48<rnowak>zeroth question: why ftp?
23:48<daftspunk>auraka: ofc
23:48<Kyhwana>daftspunk: you want passive mode. Also, don't use FTP
23:48<daftspunk>SFTP too slow
23:48*rnowak blink
23:48<auraka>daftspunk: do you have a firewall?
23:48<daftspunk>nope
23:48<daftspunk>PASV invalid cmd
23:49<Peng>auraka: Wilco
23:49<Peng>auraka: It accepted 0.0.0.0/0 and ::/0
23:50<auraka>Peng: there ya go
23:50<Peng>auraka: We can see in 10 minutes if it *works*...
23:50<auraka>:-)
23:50*SleePy is a ram newb.
23:50<SleePy>Should I go with 667MHz or a "800MHz CL6"?
23:50<Peng>auraka: I also tried leaving it blank in another zone.
23:51<rnowak>SleePy: depends on the latencies, but tbh, you won't notice a difference
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23:51<Peng>auraka: Wait, now it just accepted "any".
23:52<@heckman>Peng: what's your question?
23:52<SleePy>rnowak: I will with a 800mhz. My current ram it appears is only 400mhz. I need to get an upgrade on this system :D
23:52<Peng>heckman: 03:46:36 < Peng> "• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address." What.
23:52<auraka>daftspunk: maybe I'm stupid but for some reason I thought ftp servers used the dir command instead of ls? Probably my stupidity
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23:52<@heckman>Peng: that should be fixed...
23:52<Peng>heckman: Within the last 5 minutes?
23:52<rnowak>SleePy: there's more to it than just frequency, CL and other latencies among other things
23:53<@heckman>Few hours ago.
23:53<Peng>heckman: Oh, huh. Maybe it didn't deploy to all of the servers?
23:53<@heckman>Might not be totally patched until the A.M. Sorry bout that.
23:53<rnowak>SleePy: and those frequencies are for single channel operation mode, you'll likely have a dual channel memory controller, so double that frequency
23:53<Peng>heckman: I did it again in a different zone and it worked...
23:53*heckman submitted the fix
23:53<@heckman>Peng: has to do with whitespace.
23:53<auraka>heckman: make them do it right....0.0.0.0/0
23:53<Peng>heckman: I shall survive. Thanks for fixing it. :)
23:53<Peng>heckman: Ah. I probably did the whitespace differently.
23:54<SleePy>rnowak: True. I'm not good at this thing. Just looking to get some more ram into my desktop. Its swapping a lot when I try to run too many apps or some games
23:54<Peng>auraka: Shush
23:54<daftspunk>auraka: both work
23:54<@heckman>Peng: no worries. Was definitely fun devving that feature. :p
23:54<daftspunk>so why is FTP bad? security risk, 3rd party ppl sniffing my data?
23:54<auraka>daftspunk: did you try the dir command
23:54<Kyhwana>!ftp
23:54<linbot>Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp
23:54<@heckman>daftspunk: plain text
23:54<SleePy>Will just go with the 800mhz. If I won't notice much of a difference and they are the same price why now
23:54<rnowak>SleePy: well, unless you will be doing computationally heavy stuff, that has to move around a lot of data in RAM, you won't notice the difference -- just add more RAM and be happy :p
23:55<Kyhwana>SleePy: moar ram is moar better
23:55<daftspunk>auraka: ya
23:55<Kyhwana>SleePy: Is this for a P4 or something?
23:55<SleePy>I will be happy when my system doesn't slow down while it swaps
23:55<SleePy>md
23:55<SleePy>*amd
23:56<rnowak>and you're sure your computer can take that RAM?
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23:56<daftspunk>im on a closed network and i doubt anyone at my ISP is sniffing out my transmissions, well maybe
23:56<daftspunk>decent SFTP client then?
23:56<SleePy>I verified it. The mobo can support up to 8 gb of ram. I've got 4 (4x1gb sticks)
23:56<Peng>daftspunk: Decent FTP clients also support SFTP.
23:56<rnowak>daftspunk: windows? winscp, osx? that duck -- or filezilla for any if you're out of option
23:57<rnowak>s
23:57<rnowak>SleePy: ah
23:57<daftspunk>win7
23:57<auraka>daftspunk: cyberduck
23:58<auraka>www.cyberduck.ch
23:58<Kyhwana>daftspunk: except anyone between your ISP and your linode can sniff it
23:58<daftspunk>sold! ty
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23:59<daftspunk>Kyhwana: i like to think people have better things to do
23:59<linbot>Point (0.99712188, 0.28333019) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 110544 of 140326 (π ≈ 3.151062525832704 - 0.009469872242911). http://π.hoopycat.com/
23:59<auraka>or....you know heckman can sniff it
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