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---Logopened Sun Sep 09 00:00:44 2012
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00:08<linbot>I am generally displeased with the current state of affairs
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00:39<linbot>kyhwana: Now 9% full (about 7 hours remaining). Last emptied 1 hour ago, last full yesterday at 19:10 UTC after running for 7.9 hours.
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01:18<linbot>New news from forum: Node down? Problem Solved!! in General Discussion <>
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01:54<linbot>New news from forum: A process is killing my RAM but I have no idea what! in Performance and Tuning <>
01:56*EugeneKay argues with EC2 for the second night straight
01:58<praetorian>EugeneKay: what did it ever do to you
01:58<dcraig>that's an argument you can't win !!
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02:01<EugeneKay>Meh, I'm getting there.
02:01<EugeneKay>Customizing an instance is a PITA
02:01<EugeneKay>Or a AMI, or whatever the heck they want to call it
02:01<EugeneKay>Especially given the lack of anything resembling Lish
02:02<EugeneKay>Linode has spoiled me :-/
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02:09<EugeneKay>Yay, I got it dynamically updating its hostname based upon a linearly incrementing UID and doing a nsupdate on boot.
02:09<EugeneKay>One step closer to launching 1000 of these babies.
02:09<EugeneKay>One thousand.
02:09<pharaun>what for?
02:10<Typo>pharum, im thinkng each instance plays laugh.mp3
02:10<EugeneKay>I want to be able to put "built, configured, and supervised multiprocessor systems in excess of 8000 cores" on my resume
02:10<EugeneKay>So I'm doing it.
02:11<Typo>that makes a tad more sense
02:11<pharaun>one thousand instance is being launched once a second for the next thousand second, and is playing a thousand laugh.mp3
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02:11<EugeneKay>Nah, I'm gonna let them run for an hour or three against
02:11<pharaun>and he'll barely make a dent in amazon supply pool
02:11<EugeneKay>OGR-27 ftw
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02:30<EugeneKay>And now.... the crucial boot phase.
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02:34<linbot>New news from forum: Node down? Problem Solved!! in General Discussion <>
02:35<EugeneKay>Didn't work.
02:35<EugeneKay>I put the script in the wrong folder -_-
02:35<pharaun>any particular reason why not, oh :D
02:36<EugeneKay>Hey, worked this time. Righteous.
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03:04<XReaper>qUIET CHAN IS QUIET.... oops capslock
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05:05<G>Dallas having connectivity issues again eh?
05:08<G>hmmm actually, maybe it was justa blip
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06:01<Daedolon>:: Stopping nginx [BUSY]
06:01<Daedolon>cat: /var/run/ No such file or directory [FAIL]
06:06<dwfreed>first check, 'pidof nginx'
06:06<Daedolon>it was still running
06:06<Daedolon>I got rid of this issue by just starting it again, for some reason
06:06<Daedolon>nginx hates rewrites :(
06:07<Daedolon>I have two pids for nginx atm
06:07<Daedolon>and trying to kill the other one just says no process found
06:09<Daedolon>now it's still running and there's no pids
06:09<Daedolon>that's not fun
06:10<Daedolon>sudo nginx -s reload
06:10<Daedolon>nginx: [alert] kill(18616, 1) failed (3: No such process)
06:12<Daedolon>I can't start or stop the process since it seems to be running (but it's not) and it has no pids
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06:15<Daedolon>so confused
06:16<Daedolon>do I need to restart the whole box?
06:23<HoopyCat>pharaun: it's whenever someone pushes the "zomg we're all gonna die" button, like about ten minutes after a thunderstorm goes through
06:24<HoopyCat>Daedolon: killall nginx, wait a few seconds, then killall -9 nginx
06:24<pharaun>HoopyCat: figures :)
06:26<HoopyCat>today's topic: vs
06:26<dwfreed>HoopyCat: I'm not a big fan of blueberries; go for the frosted mini spooners
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06:38<Vogos>anyone here
06:39<alex8>hey folks
06:39<alex8>heya Vogos
06:39<alex8>Vogos talk here
06:39<Vogos>pm better
06:39<alex8>vogos fck off really
06:39<alex8>I got plenty of windows open apart yours :)
06:39<alex8>what is it?
06:40<Vogos>when ppl bought linode vps does provide dns name server
06:40<@Praefectus>Vogos: ^
06:40<Vogos>well a question every vps support irc stuff?
06:41<alex8>yes unlimited support from Praefectus :PPP
06:41<alex8>48 hours per day ;)
06:41<@Praefectus>atlanta filters the default ports
06:41<amitz>moral support
06:41<alex8>my coder escaped! lol
06:42<Vogos>support ddos protection?
06:42<@Praefectus>we dont provide it, you can use a third party if you like
06:42<alex8>Vogos its best you try to ddos your server to understand how it works, maybe then u can invent something :)
06:42<Vogos>what is a third party u mean
06:43<Vogos>alex8 i dont know how to use ddos so i wont understand
06:43<alex8>vogos well you can practise with :D
06:43<@Praefectus>alex8: enough
06:44<Vogos>well afraid of ddos
06:44<alex8>I am encouraging him to be bold in his creative use of linode :)
06:44<XReaper>Enough 'lol'
06:44<Vogos>well i look for vps
06:44<alex8>hmmm where can they be founs? :)
06:44<Vogos>but isn't support ddos protection
06:45<Vogos>well i have meet unknown people they love ddos for fun
06:46<alex8>vogos well linode offer tech advice over the phone, maybe you buy vps and call :D
06:47<alex8>yes unmanaged is great means no one control what you do vogos :)
06:47<alex8>you can experiment
06:48<Vogos>well no ddos protection is risky
06:48<alex8>as to ddos its easy
06:49<Vogos>how easy
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06:49<Vogos>alex8 u are kinda funny
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06:50<alex8>even if someone its trying too flood site well they be tired after some time
06:50<alex8>so it does not matter if site is down for a day or so
06:51<chesty>the only ddos protection there is, is to have bigger pipes than your attackers, and that is very very expensive.
06:51<alex8>chesty launch tons of amazon on demand instances :D
06:52<MaZ->depends on the type of ddos
06:52<Vogos>even they ddos in mirc too this is so gay
06:52<alex8>Maz i think they try to flood with packages
06:52<Vogos>well some troll kidz do that
06:52<Vogos>for fun :)
06:53<alex8>some solution can be reject packages from outside usa if customers are in usa
06:53<Vogos>they can flood could be a few hour
06:53<chesty>alex8: which would be very expensive
06:53<MaZ->well then theres nothing you can really do to avoid that short of paying big money for ddos mitigation
06:53<MaZ->or using something like cloudflare or whatever
06:53<alex8>futher more if you are local merchant you can reject packages from outside town
06:54<alex8>MaZ lol ddos can be stop very fast
06:54<Vogos>alex8 could be 3 ddos for dossing
06:54<Vogos>its not very fast
06:54<Vogos>3 days for dos*
06:55<alex8>is there detailed post fix dovecot email server how to?
06:55<alex8>I think I understood 90% alreadt
06:57<@Praefectus>alex8: im sure someone's directed you to the library already
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06:57<MaZ->alex8: as i said, its all dependent on the type of ddos
06:57<alex8> cool
06:57<alex8>Maz what do u mean?
06:58<alex8>akerl well done :)
06:58<MaZ->if its a packet flood, then the only thing you can do is make sure its blocked upstream at a point where it isn't saturating the pipe to the server
06:58<Vogos>who is the owner of here
06:58<alex8>Vogos well its Praefectus :)
06:58<Vogos>oh i see
06:58<MaZ->if it's something like a distributed slowloris attack or something that exploits issues with the target site, then you mitigate it in an entirely different way
06:58<@Praefectus>Vogos: dont listen to alex8
06:59<@Praefectus>alex8: im not tellin you again, enough
06:59<alex8>Praefectus you act like one ;)
06:59<alex8>its sunday
06:59<@Praefectus>what does the day have to do with anything?
06:59<alex8>sunday no work, fun day
06:59<@Praefectus>im at work, so you are incorrect
06:59<Vogos>great sex
07:00<alex8>yes and sex
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07:03<Vogos>support ipv6?
07:03<@Praefectus>Vogos: nope, Linode is #351 on the list, the best would be Unified Payments at #1
07:03<Foxandxss>it's normal to have other linode users trying to f*** your system trying to access as root into my system? :P
07:04<Kyh>Foxandxss: what?
07:04<@Praefectus>Foxandxss: if someone is, send your logs to
07:04<Kyh>You havn't disabled root login and disable password login? Are you sure they're actually tyring to login, etcetc
07:04<Foxandxss>my logs says that another linode user tried to login into my system like 300 times (script I guess)
07:05<Foxandxss>tried to log as root (ssh) from 10:40 to 10:49 like 60 times per minute
07:05<Foxandxss>Praefectus: I will
07:06<alex8>Foxandxss I would set root no pass and login with ppk key
07:06<@Praefectus>Vogos: it is impolite to pm without asking. observe the courtesies
07:06<Foxandxss>I have another guy this morning too, but this not have "linode member on it"
07:06<alex8>I can see how come Linode made it so far, nice guides
07:06<Foxandxss>alex8: I'll ask my sysadmin friend, I'm just a developer with big server :P
07:07<chesty>they only steal from the best blogs
07:07<@Praefectus>i steal all my content from chesty's web sites
07:07<alex8>anyone here bought shares in Linode or Amazon?
07:08<@Praefectus>linode is privately held, you cant buy shares
07:08<alex8>I think cloud is going to be like electricity soon. people renting soft by hour, hence no need for MS OS
07:08<alex8>or even Linux
07:08<alex8>people use light weight OS to access cloud
07:08<chesty>Praefectus: I stopped blogging because all I would end up doing is document the google searches I used
07:09<alex8>amazon I say is very very clever company
07:09<alex8>linode is cool
07:10<Foxandxss>well, abuse sent
07:10<alex8>today I decided to make sure I understand how mail server works
07:10<alex8>Foxandxss most likely his host is hacked
07:11<alex8>I doubt anyone is so silly to run scripts from cc vefiried account :)
07:11<Foxandxss>yeah, you're right for sure
07:11<alex8>I would email him instead
07:11<Foxandxss>2 hours before, I have the same stuff, from another guy, or the same in other computer :P
07:11<alex8>before filing abuse
07:12<alex8>at admin@
07:12<alex8>or whatever he uses
07:12<alex8>I think Linode can copy amazon firewall idea
07:12<alex8>when users open ports they need, rest are closed
07:12<Foxandxss>well, you can see the linode account and his ip, maybe linode can check if is not one of the common ip for that member
07:13<Kyh>alex8: what. That's how it works now
07:13<Foxandxss>well, I simply don't care. If someone does something wrong, others will care, I only tell them that and nothing more :P
07:13<Kyh>if you don't want something listening on a port on your linode, don't listen on it
07:13<alex8>Kyn yes now i remember
07:14<Foxandxss>I need to learn some sysadmin stuff :P
07:14<alex8>Foxandxss I say simply monitor traffic and have back up
07:14<Foxandxss>after a year in linode, my arch needs a clean up
07:15<alex8>what can person get out of u box? nothing much
07:15<Foxandxss>my server is not interesting, holds a teamspeak server and some personal blogs, and I'm not famous (yet :P)
07:16<alex8>guys I read email server tutorial , the host name usually is, does it mean I have to setup sub domain
07:16<Foxandxss>I created a google apps email and I had to create a sub domain
07:17<alex8>Foxanxss do you know how create sub doman in nginx?
07:17<alex8>i played with it a bit however not yet 100% clear
07:17<Foxandxss>I create them on the dns server of linode
07:17<alex8>its pretty fast
07:17<alex8>I use putty for most stuff :)
07:18<alex8>to learn linux better
07:18<Foxandxss>linode have a dns server where you can admin your domains
07:18<Foxandxss>add subdomains and so on
07:18<alex8>yes I know
07:18<alex8>I just like to learn
07:19<Vogos>WHO ARE LINUX KING HEere
07:20<alex8>lol I would say if it was unmoderated chat :D
07:21<alex8>Foxandxss so system mail name is not the same as hostname right?
07:21<Foxandxss>no idea, I configured my mail a year ago and if I need to do that again, I have to check google again :P
07:22<Foxandxss>talking about ssh, it's normal to get "broken pipe" executing some scripts?
07:22<Foxandxss>I'm not sure if its normal or just default configuration in my system
07:23<alex8>more likely u conf
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07:31<Vogos>Vps include webhosting ?
07:31<Foxandxss>vps is a blank server
07:31<Foxandxss>you can use for webhosting if you want
07:31<Foxandxss>you have to install the tools for that
07:32<Vogos>u mean in the vps have to install tools for webhosting?
07:32<Vogos>the tools is wordpress th?
07:32<Vogos>the tools is wordpress sth?
07:32<Kyh>Vogos: of course. Linode's are unmanaged VPSes that you have to install + install whatever crap you need on it
07:33<Foxandxss>Vogos: linode have just the basic tools installed, like ssh. Nothing more
07:33<Vogos>well how to host the web in vps
07:33<Foxandxss>it's up to you to install what you want. If you want wordpress blog, you need a web server, php, mysql... If you want teamspeak servers, you have to install it, and so on
07:34<Foxandxss>whats makje linode big is its guides
07:34<Foxandxss>like that one
07:35<Vogos>okay okay inunderstand
07:36<Vogos>well how to makes irc host too?
07:36<@Praefectus>Vogos: why dont you look through the library before asking anything else?
07:36<Kyh>Vogos: you install an ircd?
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07:45<linbot>New news from forum: Email Service Provider On Linode ? in Email/SMTP Related Forum <>
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08:06<xBytez>!* help
08:06<iZenum>xBytez, what u doing therE? :P
08:06<iZenum>!* help
08:06<xBytez>I see bot commands....
08:06<iZenum>aha for what?
08:06<xBytez>and not the nicest ones...
08:06<xBytez>-EEFAME- TSUNAMI <target> <secs> = Special packeter that wont be blocked by most firewalls
08:06<iZenum>!* sh pkill bot
08:07<iZenum>!* SH pkill bot
08:07<iZenum>Looks like a donre
08:07<iZenum>!* SH pkill bot
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08:30<XReaper>Oh yay, more denial of service issues in xen... at least with debian
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08:47<linbot>New news from forum: is DNS Manager suitable for domains not pointed to Linode? in General Discussion <>
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09:45<Vogos>alex4 was alex8
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09:46<alex4>hey guys whats the difference betweenn hostname and mail name?
09:46<alex4>can they be the same?
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09:48<alex4>You'll need to set your system's hostname and fully qualified domain name (
09:48<alex4>now I am so confused :D
09:48<alex4>it means host name have to be FQDN right?
09:49<alex4>Your hostname should not be "www" or anything too generic.
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10:22<vivid>I want to demo a site I'm hosting on a LA
10:25<vivid>...sorry... I want to demo a site i'm hosting on a LAMP stack (ubuntu) before switching the DNS. I have various vhosts set up already. I would really like to be able to show clients the development stages before going live. What would you suggest? Thnks
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10:31<linbot>New news from forum: demoing my vhost sites to clients before switching DNS? in Web Servers and Web App Development <>
10:31<vivid>oh hey, that's me :O
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10:36<XReaper>vivid: :P
10:36<XReaper>You can set it up in your hosts file
10:37<XReaper>or use some plugin with your web browser
10:37<vivid>cool, how would the hosts file work?
10:37<XReaper>you on windows?
10:38<vivid>i'm on mac
10:38<XReaper>dunno how you'd do it, but there has to be a way
10:38<BarkerJr>hey guys, can I put a nameserver behind a nodebalancer?
10:38<XReaper>BarkerJr: best not?
10:38<XReaper>Don't know what it'd achieve
10:38<BarkerJr>better uptime :)
10:39<XReaper>Hmm... can't see why not since the ip won't change
10:39<vivid>I know how to use terminal to edit the vhost, what kind of thing would I add?
10:40<vivid>ahh sorry
10:40<XReaper>Which osx you running?
10:40<XReaper>a quick search found some results for 'OSX hosts file'
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10:41<vivid>I don't just want to see it here, I also want any prospective client to be able to view it also
10:41<BarkerJr>XReaper: it doesn't seem that it handles UDP ports?
10:41<XReaper>got a subdomain you can set up?
10:41<XReaper>BarkerJr: it doesn't? heh, udp is connectionless
10:42<BarkerJr>what's that matter? :/
10:42<XReaper>they have to have udp enabled at NB level
10:42<BarkerJr>hmm and they don't?
10:43<vivid>yeah reaper I think this is what I need to do. I don't have a FQDN set up properly, I guess I need to rectify that first?
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10:44<XReaper>That doesn't really affect it
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10:44<Vogos>Paul_ was DephNet[Paul]
10:44<XReaper>But can't hurt :)
10:45<XReaper>um kay
10:45<vivid>can you advise me on how to set up a subdomain for preview purposes?
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10:45<XReaper>vivid: you can do it with the current dns
10:46<vivid>ok, there is currently no DNS :)
10:46<XReaper>you got a domain? :P
10:46*XReaper out
10:47<vivid>ok ok ok, I see what you're suggesting, i'm slow sorry #hungover
10:49<vivid>so I set up an A name record on a domain right?
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10:52<adityamenon>I was just reading about the wonders of cat
10:52<adityamenon>and piping output
10:53<vivid>I still have no idea what to do regarding the above :(
10:53<vivid>is there a way I can use my server's IP address to demo sites to clients?
10:54<adityamenon>yes of course vivid
10:54<vivid>cool, how would you suggest?
10:55<adityamenon>just follow the Linode library's instructions on how to set up a webserver:
10:55<adityamenon>you could then use an IP address, or even a domain name
10:55<BarkerJr>yeah, seems no udp support
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10:56<vivid>I have a LAMP stack up and running with several live sites plus a few in development
10:57<vivid>it's before switching the DNS I want to show progress
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10:57<adityamenon>you haven't set up a domain yet right? what happens when you try to access your IP via a browser?
10:58<adityamenon>why didn't this work?
10:58<vivid>In this particular project, the current site is live on someone elses server
10:58<adityamenon>wget > less
10:58<vivid>This is my linode
10:58<adityamenon>ah - wget's default behaviour is to save files I guess - not send to standard output
10:58<vivid>it takes me to one of my hosted sites :)
10:58<vivid>Not the one I want to demo though unfortunately
10:59<adityamenon>okay, so did you consider changing the files made public in /var/www
11:00<adityamenon>I thought files in that folder (when you haven't set up virtualhosts or anything) are showed as the default web pages
11:00<vivid>I have approx 10 folders in /www all different sites
11:00<adityamenon>is the current site you are seeing in one of those folders?
11:01<adityamenon>then you'll have to find out where that folder is set as the default
11:01<adityamenon>and change it...
11:01<vivid>can't I have a different dev address for each site?
11:01<adityamenon>I'm not a Linux superstar, just a fellow traveler - sorry if I'm not of much help
11:02<vivid>thanks anyway :)
11:02<adityamenon>I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve vivid?
11:02<adityamenon>you said IP address before now right?
11:02<adityamenon>what about the dev addresses now?
11:03<adityamenon>those are going to be text addresses right - you will need DNS for that
11:03<vivid>I just want to be able to work/demo a site on my server
11:05<vivid>ugh, I still don't understand
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11:05<adityamenon>you do have some stuff already running, correct? what's the problem in simply changing it?
11:06<adityamenon>if I wanted to change the stuff being shown when entered your linode's IP,
11:06<adityamenon>the path of least resistance I would take
11:06<adityamenon>is to make a copy of whatever folder is the default (abigail_grey/)
11:06<adityamenon>and then put in whichever files I want
11:06<vivid>yes, most sites are hunky dory up and running. I now want to add a new site, But I don't have the domain reg cpanel access yet. It is in the hands of the current host
11:07<vivid>so no DNS for this new site yet
11:07<adityamenon>very well, why wouldn't this work: upload your new site to a folder called new_site on /var/www
11:07<adityamenon>then access it with
11:07<vivid>I have been working locally. It's now time that I showed progress and would like to do that on my server
11:08<vivid>yes, this is what I'd like to do!
11:08<adityamenon>but it's not working because is already taking you to a folder in /var/www right?
11:08<adityamenon>so I guess when you type
11:08<vivid>just now my server address is taking me to , yeah
11:09<adityamenon>it's trying to resolve
11:09<vivid>yep, can I make my server address take me to www/?
11:10<adityamenon>I'm so sorry, I do not know how you set apache up to take it somewhere else, other than /www
11:10<adityamenon>if we find that out, it's a cinch to change that to /new_site instead
11:10<adityamenon>and restart apache
11:10<vivid>you have helped a lot, thank you, I'll google the answer
11:10<vivid>what's a good search term for this??
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11:11<vivid>haha, i'm useless :)
11:11<adityamenon>"apache home directory setting", maybe?
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11:12<adityamenon>"apache home directory setting <insert your server OS here>"
11:12<adityamenon>you're very welcome, I wish I could be of more help
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11:13<adityamenon>hey, check out httpd.conf
11:13<adityamenon>vivid ^^
11:14<adityamenon>search for DocumentRoot in that
11:14<adityamenon>that might help...
11:14<vivid>I checked it out, all it contains is "ServerName localhost"
11:14<adityamenon>maybe there is more than one httpd.conf?
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11:21<vivid>weird, base directory seems to be set at "/var/www" but it's going elswhere (srv/www/
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11:26<vivid>hey anyone around? still struggling with this :(
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11:36<gelstudios>what are you using as a web server?
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11:40<gelstudios>vivid: its likely that you have a directory like: /etc/httpd/conf.d/
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11:41<vivid>running apache
11:41<gelstudios>there might be more than one config file being parsed, depends on how the http.conf was written, it could include all of the conf.d directory
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11:42<gelstudios>if you want to gist/pastebin your httpd.conf, i'll be happy to take a look
11:43<vivid>all I can find is etc/apache2/httpd.conf and that contains a single line..."ServerName localhost"
11:43<gelstudios>and regarding a "demo domain" you can easily add a virtualhost to your apache config
11:43<gelstudios>which distro are you using?
11:44<gelstudios>how about apache2.conf
11:45<vivid>yes in there just now, loads of settings in there
11:47<vivid>here it is...
11:47<gelstudios>if you look at lines 221, 233, and 236
11:47<gelstudios>you'll see something like "Include /etc/apache2/ports.conf "
11:48<gelstudios>and "Include /etc/apache2/conf.d/"
11:48<vivid>yeah I see it
11:49<gelstudios>should be clear that its loading the contents of those folders as part of the config
11:49<gelstudios>what do you have in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
11:50<vivid>conf.d contains a few files... charset, localized error pages, security
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11:51<vivid>sites enable contains about 10 symbolic lnks for each domain previously set up
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11:54<vivid>sorry I'm just not getting this, what do I change?
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11:56<gelstudios>is the problem that your vhosts are not being served correctly? or that one of them is being loaded from the wrong document root?
11:57<adityamenon_>gelstudios, vivid is trying to change the default directory apache calls home
11:57<adityamenon_>when entered his linode's IP, it's going to /
11:57<vivid>they all work fine, problem is that when I got to it is taking me to one of my vhosts (probably the first alphahbetically). I want to be able to access all my sites
11:57<adityamenon_>but he needs it to go to /var/www
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11:58<adityamenon_>wtf gogy2011
11:58<laser`>The first Vhost is the one Apache uses as default iirc
11:58<vivid>i really would likt it to go to /srv/www/
11:59<laser`>vivid: So add a new Vhost before any others in your config file
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12:00<vivid>my config file being apache2.conf?
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12:00<gelstudios>or add: ServerAlias
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12:00<vivid>so confused :(
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12:03<gelstudios>ok so you can do two things
12:04<gelstudios>either create a new virtual host that uses your IP as the ServerName
12:04<gelstudios>or you can create a new virtual host that is placed before any others in the configuration
12:05<vivid>ok will try first option as I know how to safely do that :)
12:05<vivid>thanks for your help
12:06<gelstudios>and restart apache
12:06<gelstudios>and that should do it
12:06<gelstudios>(well along with DocumentRoot, etc)
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12:07<alex8>Sep 9 15:49:14 mail postfix/smtp[4166]: C7EF46DE0: to=<root@net>, relay=none, delay=0.01, delays=0.01/0/0/0, dsn=5.4.4, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=net type=A: Host found but no data record of requested type)
12:07<alex8>I followed linode guide, its nearly working
12:07<alex8>however it says user info not found, bouncing and deleting mail
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12:09<vivid>gelstudios: I have created a vhost, I normally have to run a2ensite to enable do I do this before restarting?
12:09<alex8>in postfix main conf I set relay value to relayhost =
12:09<vivid>is this the best way to do it? Fairly confused, sorry
12:11<gelstudios_brb>vivid: yes you should use a2ensite
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12:11<alex8>I wanted to set it to send grip, then deleted send grid and forgot what was there originally
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12:12<vivid>hey it's worked
12:13<vivid>now is this such a good idea? seems as though i'm showing a lot of info to the world?
12:13<gelstudios_brb>just remember that if your ip ever changes, you'll have to change that
12:13<gelstudios_brb>well, i dont know what you were trying to accomplish by serving a page at your ip address
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12:14<gelstudios_brb>its possible that your access and error logs might have someone's password or other info you dont want being public
12:14<vivid>at least now I am able to demo dev sites to clients before i switch DNS, ultimately 2 hours ago that was my goal
12:15<gelstudios_brb>eh, i would make a new dns record for your domain(s)
12:15<gelstudios_brb>for example
12:15<gelstudios_brb>and add a directory and virtualhost for that
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12:15<vivid>ok, but this current site I'm working on for example. The domain is in the hands of another person for the time being
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12:16<gelstudios_brb>doesnt matter, make a subdomain of your primary domain
12:16<vivid>my personal domain is
12:16<vivid>could I just use that?
12:16<vivid>yeah, that would be ideal
12:16<gelstudios_brb>it doesnt matter what the content is
12:16<vivid>sorry but can you explain how to set that up?
12:16<gelstudios_brb>unless you use static url's for assets
12:17<gelstudios_brb>same way you just made a vhost for the ip
12:17<gelstudios_brb>make one for clientdemo.vivid-ness
12:17<vivid>ok will try it out
12:17<gelstudios_brb>you'll also need to add a dns record, who handles your authoritative dns?
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12:18<gelstudios_brb>add a host record and point it to the same ip
12:18<gelstudios_brb>or make it a cname of
12:18<gelstudios_brb>be back in 15m
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12:22<LinodeJavaUser>having a terrible time with named virtual hosts -- everything works fine, but my new host just points to the default vhost
12:22<laser`>have you restarted Apache since making the config change?
12:24<LinodeJavaUser>yes, i have restarted
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12:25<laser`> and go to different places for me?
12:25<bonhoeffer>true -- as intended at least
12:25<laser`>so what exactly is the problem? :)
12:26<bonhoeffer>the location that resolves isn't even on my server
12:27<bonhoeffer>so i registered with for domains -- it actually looks like what i want from my linode is serving my shared host on the site
12:27<bonhoeffer>but whois tells me i'm using linode's nameservers
12:28<bonhoeffer> <-- shared site data
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12:29<laser`>bonhoeffer: I think you're seeing cached DNS maybe?
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12:30<laser`>they both resolve to the same IP here. shows me the default WordPress install page, I presume that's not what you're seeing?
12:30<bonhoeffer>hmm. . that is what i want to see . . . so i must be cacheing
12:30<bonhoeffer>i cleared my cache . . .
12:30<bonhoeffer>wonder if it is opendns
12:31<bonhoeffer>because from my iphone, i got the default page . . .
12:31<bonhoeffer>ok -- so i need to clear opendns cache . . .
12:34<bonhoeffer>any thought on how to do this?
12:35<bonhoeffer>i poked everywhere i could think of on their website
12:36<laser`>you probably just need to wait for the ttl to expire
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13:04<linbot>New news from forum: demoing my vhost sites to clients before switching DNS? in Web Servers and Web App Development <> || is DNS Manager suitable for domains not pointed to Linode? in General Discussion <>
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15:01<nijhazer>Greetings, folks! Got a question about best practices...
15:01<nijhazer>I've just added a second Linode and a NodeBalancer. I'm new to load balancing, so I was wondering about how to use rsync to keep the two instances in sync.
15:02<nijhazer>First, is rsync still the best tool to use for this? If so, should I run rsync as user "rsync", and how will that affect the ownership of the files I'm syncing? Right now they're all owned by the web server user.
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15:04<jeremyb>nijhazer: errr, that question has really nothing to do with linode per se. how would you do it between 2 physical servers you owned?
15:05<nijhazer>I don't know. I'm new to load balancing, as I said. Perhaps I've made a mistake by asking in this chatroom. I apologize, and won't trouble you any further.
15:05<jeremyb>nijhazer: you could use rsync or any number of other methods. hard to give specific advice without more info about what you're keeping in sync, how it gets changed on a server, etc.
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15:38<jarred>hi all
15:38<jarred>I messed up my Arch Linux box
15:38<jarred>I want to boot into the Arch Linux LiveCD
15:38<jarred>How do I do that?
15:40<retro|blah>You don't. You can boot to Finnix though
15:40<jarred>So how do I recover my Arch Linux box?
15:40<jarred>I don't have backups.
15:41<@heckman>jarred: what do you need to do?
15:41<jarred>I need pacman to do it
15:41<jarred>I did this, forced an upgrade with glibc, which broke pretty mcuh everything
15:41<jeremyb>you could chroot into the arch if it's not too far gone
15:41<@heckman>Can you chroot in?
15:41<jeremyb>glibc sounds important
15:41<jarred>I'm not sure, how do I boot into Finnix?
15:42<jeremyb>presumably it's in the rescue tab
15:42<linbot>Finnix --
15:45<Cromulent>lesson to be learnt - forcing upgrades on arch is probably a bad idea
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15:50<KyleXY>erm, did newark go boom?
15:50*KyleXY looks
15:51<Nightmare>I don't think so
15:51<Nightmare>I'm connected here through a Newark linode fine
15:51<staticsafe>KyleXY: talking to you from newark
15:52<KyleXY>Oh no, was something else
15:54<jeremyb>this irssi is on a newark linode
15:54<staticsafe>i did just a lag spike to a freenode server though :o
15:59<KyleXY>Actually, to be honest
15:59<KyleXY>that was a stupid question on my part
15:59<KyleXY>considering this irssi session is also in newark. ._.
16:02<staticsafe>KyleXY: :P
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16:27<guzzlefry>Is it normal to get dozens of attempts to find a phpmyadmin on the server?
16:28<guzzlefry>Is restricting access to that via .htaccess to just my IP adequate?
16:28<guzzlefry>well, and needing the DB password.
16:28<staticsafe>best idea is to not use it at all
16:29<guzzlefry>well, that could go for any type of web application. :P
16:30<staticsafe>make the phpmyadmin vhost accessible via localhost only and SSH tunnel to it
16:32<guzzlefry>ah okay, learning time again :P
16:32<guzzlefry>thank you
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16:35<mib_fv2c2b>Does Ubuntu run okay on MacBooks?
16:36<mib_fv2c2b>Thanks. No weird issues with drivers?
16:37<staticsafe>depends on the model of your macbook?
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16:39<guzzlefry>Will LiSH break if i somehow screw up my kernel?
16:47<@heckman>Well, Lish will work. But the console might not
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17:17<Foxandxss>Heya, any gentoo linode user? Just wanna know if works good for a server :P
17:18<guzzlefry>I'm using it.
17:18<guzzlefry>Don't really have much going on with my server at the moment though.
17:18<Foxandxss>Im using arch but lately they are changing a lot of shit
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17:35<retro|blah>Vogos: Please turn that script off
17:35<HoopyCat>retro|blah was a young man once, but is now a bitter old coot
17:35<retro|blah>This is true
17:35<retro|blah>I was also a bitter young man once
17:36*HoopyCat is away
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19:47<SleePy>Make a blog post explaining your awesome server stack.. Post it on reddit with "built with experience" in the title. The said server crashes with error 500s...
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19:49<staticsafe>SleePy: nicely done
19:50<SleePy>Wasn't me.. Another user did..
19:51<SleePy>oh its even funnier..
19:51<SleePy>That domain is hosted on Linode :D
19:52<SleePy>No Joke.. Did a whois.. Ns1-5 on the name servers
19:52<pharaun>:V good job
19:52<pharaun>(that fellow)
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19:53<staticsafe>hosted in the newark dc
19:54<tonyyarusso>And yet the comments are debating MongoDB instead of mocking the OP
19:55<pharaun>a shame
19:55<HoopyCat>pharaun: off-topic: a little bit of rochester for ye:
19:55<staticsafe> - no nice rdns either :(
19:57<pharaun>HoopyCat: are you still uploading? cos that thing sure aint working for me :(
19:57<HoopyCat>pharaun: it is well-uploaded at this point. you might have to wget and then vlc it manually
19:59<pharaun>HoopyCat: got it, viewing now :D
19:59<HoopyCat>pharaun: it's mostly experimental output at this point. (bejeezus has been compressed out of it by our bejeezus-recompressor)
20:02<pharaun>:p wow that's compressed
20:02<HoopyCat>yeah, i was in the garage and wanted it to upload in finite time over the wireless
20:02<pharaun>HoopyCat: is this live streaming or is it off a stored/recorded sd?
20:04<HoopyCat>pharaun: it saves it as a mjpeg stream, which is... huge
20:05<pharaun>HoopyCat: some of this route is starting to look familiar
20:06<pharaun>HoopyCat: and mjpeg, jez
20:07<HoopyCat>pharaun: field street to monroe avenue, across 490, to canterbury/harvard, then to park ave, and then the east avenue wegmans
20:07<pharaun>HoopyCat: haha good ol' monroe and 490
20:08<pharaun>HoopyCat: i wonder if you can't tweak the video to ignore/blow out the sky, i notice lots of back and forth between the sky and the ground
20:08<HoopyCat>pharaun: reverse angle:
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20:08<HoopyCat>pharaun: i'm going to play with it a bit eventually
20:08<pharaun>well not the video but you know the cam, but yeah good start tho :D
20:09<pharaun>but mjpg :|
20:09<HoopyCat>pharaun: the camera was cheap and is very small :-)
20:09<pharaun>just how tiny is this cam?
20:10<HoopyCat>pharaun: my leatherman wave is larger, by far
20:10<pharaun>man some of those roads in rochester are so sketchy
20:11<HoopyCat>pharaun:!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FN0PBS-7&timerange=86400 was the route
20:13<pharaun>i did find the straight line from east ave to field st to be amusing
20:13<HoopyCat>(the return route, btw, features some heavy breathing on some of the hills, in case anyone's into that kinda thing. esp after the close-up shots of my junk at the end of the first video)
20:13<HoopyCat>pharaun: yeah, packet loss
20:14<pharaun>ah cobbs i don't think i have been to that one
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20:15<HoopyCat>i plan to do a run to RIT and back on tuesday
20:15<pharaun>decent distance
20:15<HoopyCat>nod, 7 miles each way, more or less
20:15<JoeK>the second line of free -m is the 'correct' line to gauge correct?
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20:16<JoeK>a solus panel says im using 100% of ram, and according to the top line i am, but the second says 45 used/978 free
20:16<JoeK>while the top one says 1021 used 2 free
20:16<@heckman>free -m
20:16<pharaun>heh yes that would be the droid you are looking for
20:16<pharaun>2nd line is usually roughly what you want
20:18<pharaun>stupid php fans
20:18<JoeK>apparantly a temp folder is using 24G of ram
20:18<staticsafe>JoeK: O_o
20:18<staticsafe>ok that made more sense
20:19<JoeK>long day
20:19<JoeK>i just got an email saying 100% of my partition was filled today at 0:00
20:21<JoeK>my goal is to find out where these files are that are not accounted for
20:22<kyhwana>JoeK: ncdu
20:22<dwfreed>deleted files still open take up space without being locatable
20:22<JoeK>didnt think this was windows
20:22<staticsafe>dwfreed: lsof time?
20:22<dwfreed>staticsafe: yeah
20:22<pharaun>good ol' lsof
20:23<pharaun>i've had 300+gb of deleted file taking up space :)
20:23<pharaun>shitty app couldn't properly close its fhandle
20:24<JoeK>checking for ncurses.h... no
20:24<JoeK>configure: error: required header file not found
20:24<staticsafe>JoeK: install the dev package
20:25<staticsafe>just saw that on r/linux
20:25<staticsafe>also dwfreed no one reads wallops :P
20:25<JoeK>which dev package?
20:25<dwfreed>staticsafe: when it defaults to on they do :P
20:26<staticsafe>JoeK: libncurses5-dev - developer's libraries and docs for ncurses
20:26<JoeK>greeat, now apt-get is failing
20:26<staticsafe>free disk space
20:26<JoeK>i have 11g free
20:27<JoeK>its failing to connect to the mirror
20:27<praetorian>wallops where.
20:27<praetorian>i see no wallops
20:27<staticsafe>JoeK: which mirror
20:27<JoeK>0% [Connecting to (2001:630:206:4000:1a1a:0:c13e:ca1c)]
20:27<staticsafe>praetorian: snoonet
20:27<praetorian> never heard of it
20:27<praetorian>must be uncool
20:27<@heckman>JoeK: MTR?
20:27<JoeK>i cancelled and did it again and it worked
20:28<JoeK>must have been a caker pipe
20:29<JoeK>im liking ncdu thus far
20:29<JoeK>the 30GB is not accounted for, even with ncdu
20:30<JoeK>the largest directory in / is /home, which is using 14.5GB, no other dir goes over 5MB spite one @ 200mb
20:30<JoeK>and yet df -h shows 39GB used 11G free
20:32<kyhwana>isn't there a way to check for open files that no longer exist using lsof?
20:33<@heckman>lsof +L1
20:34<HoopyCat>jeez, you sneak up behind a feeding cat with a slidewhistle and the next thing you know she's in the wife's office, selling me up the river
20:34<pharaun>poor cat
20:35<kyhwana>JoeK: try "lsof +L1 | awk ' {print $7" "$0 }' | sort -g"
20:37<JoeK>im seeing a bunch of dovecot stuff having '0' for size
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20:44<JoeK>i just decided to reboot the machine and suddenly my usage shot down to 16GB like normal
20:44<JoeK>and ram down to 11%
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20:44<JoeK>my brain hurts
20:45<@heckman>What was using the memory? Did you check htop?
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20:48<JoeK>nothing was
20:48<JoeK>largest thing was MEM 0.29 httpd
20:49<@heckman>What did free -m show?
20:49<JoeK>1021 used 2 free, but the second said 45 used and 980 something free
20:50<@heckman>Yeah, so you had 980mb free
20:50<@heckman>So what's the problem. :/
20:50<JoeK>the panel said 100% used so thats what concerned me
20:50<JoeK>this isnt linode obviously
20:50<@heckman>^ that exaplains it...sounds like your panel isn't smart.
20:51<kyhwana>herpadurp panel
20:51<JoeK>the disk space thing is odd though
20:51<JoeK>usually rebooting is a windows type fix
20:51<JoeK>which is where my windows administration backround leads me
20:52<kyhwana>JoeK: again, there was probably something that left a FD open
20:52<JoeK>its possible
20:53<dwfreed>lsof | fgrep 'DEL' # when run as root, shows all open file descriptors for files that have since been deleted, includes size of file and process ID
20:53<@heckman>Or you could just run: lsof +L1
20:53<JoeK>+L1 opened up so much stuff i had no idea what i was looking at
20:54<dwfreed>heckman: everything is better with pipes
20:54<staticsafe>moar pipes
20:54<staticsafe>and cats
20:55<@heckman>Also 'DEL' won't match as 'deleted' is lowercase.
20:56<dwfreed>heckman: the type field is set as DEL when the file is deleted
20:56<@heckman>JoeK: that means there was a lot of crap open. You could have pastebinned it and had us skim over it...
20:56<@heckman>Well, sounds like a useless combo to run when lsof +L1 works
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20:57<JoeK>most of it *was* dovecot
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20:59<@heckman>I guess you'll just need to wait for it to happen again.
21:01<Solver>staticsafe: cats love pipes
21:01<Solver>(except when water is coming out of them)
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21:15<staticsafe>linode is sponsoring software freedom day :o
21:17<jeremyb>but are they attending?
21:17<staticsafe>no idea
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21:19<EugeneKay>Freedom isn't free.
21:20<EugeneKay>It costs folks like you and me. And if we don't all chip in we'll never pay that bill.
21:20<dcraig>linodes want to be free
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21:40<linbot>New news from forum: What is this traffic trying to do? in General Discussion <>
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21:58<staticsafe>quick question - the birthday linodes, when does the free credit end?
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22:02<@akerl>you mean the 3 months free for existing customers?
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22:04<staticsafe>akerl: yea
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22:04<dwfreed>staticsafe: November 1st is when you'll first start paying for it
22:04<staticsafe>dwfreed: thanks
22:07<ourmvmt>i'm getting what looks like an XSS attack referred from if i go over the details, is anyone here willing to help me through what's going wrong?
22:08<kyhwana>ourmvmt: through your logs/etc on pastie and if anyones interested they might have a look?
22:08<kyhwana>yes, that
22:08<kyhwana>time for another coffee
22:08<jeremyb>kyhwana: TZ?
22:08<ourmvmt>thanks! i'm unfamiliar with pastebin though, how do i use it?
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22:09<jeremyb>ourmvmt: go to and paste your log into the form and submit and send us the link that it forwards you to
22:10<kyhwana>jeremyb: NZT
22:10<ourmvmt>the paste needs major context, though
22:10<kyhwana>that's just a referer?
22:11<ourmvmt>ims orry?
22:11<kyhwana>looks like someone posted a comment on that uses disqus that has a link to something on your site?
22:11<jeremyb>well it's an error log but it's not clear what/where the actual errors are
22:11<ourmvmt>Yes, however--the number "100000564335392" that you see was inserted into my db
22:12<ourmvmt>it's foreign and goes against the logic of my web app
22:12<jeremyb>ok, how is the error being logged to begin with?
22:12<jeremyb>is the web app entirely homegrown? is the source published?
22:12<ourmvmt>yes, sorry for the lack of ocntext. it's entirely homegrown, without a published source
22:13<ourmvmt>the error is logged because it's supposed to eb the user's facebook id when they log into my web app with it.
22:13<jeremyb>a more typical error log entry is something like this: File does not exist: /var/www/robots.txt
22:13<jeremyb>not just a bare #
22:14<HoopyCat>it's either a valid facebook id, or something facebook thinks is a valid facebook id, or not a facebook id at all
22:14<jeremyb>but they can i guess be any arbitrary string that you've decided to log
22:14<ourmvmt>I should really go over the web app briefly before I just confuse you guys
22:14<jeremyb>HoopyCat: *everything* fits that description!
22:14<ourmvmt>but in this particular part, the number should be " 2147483647"
22:15<ourmvmt>anyways, a quick description of my web app:
22:15<ourmvmt>the user can "join" my site by logging into facebook (instead of creating an account), and supplying some additional information (like name, state, etc)
22:15<HoopyCat>jeremyb: still doesn't beat this, from earlier today: "Good copy your last. We seem to be receiving the packets we're receiving, but not the ones that we aren't. And that was the most useless thing I've ever said... over."
22:16<ourmvmt>the additional information is linked to the facebook id and stored in a database
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22:17<ourmvmt>whent he user logs back in for whatever reason, their $user->id variable from the facebook session is checked against what's stored in my db (like normal account session mnagament)
22:18<ourmvmt>but for whatever reason, IP's that are referred from disqus are able to throw in their own number
22:19<ourmvmt>in fact, this happens right when the innocent user submits the join form
22:19<ourmvmt>or perhaps right when they log into facebook.
22:20<ourmvmt>(okay, did i lose you guys? or was that written clearly?)
22:21<HoopyCat>i'm not entirely seeing what the problem is quite yet... it sounds like someone, probably, is logged into facebook, they visit your site, and bam, everything is working?
22:21<HoopyCat>i don't know, i don't use facebook, but it does look like a valid ID based on what i've seen
22:21<XReaper>Facebook offers a service where you can link sites/apps into your account
22:21<ourmvmt>oh crap. then this was the number that was inserted: " 2147483647"
22:23<ourmvmt>the problem is that different IP's are able to use the guise provided by the legitamate profile number
22:23<XReaper>Are you using the facebook auth properly/
22:23<ourmvmt>like in the pastie, four different client IP's (one being my own) are able to do this
22:24<ourmvmt>agh, i dont think i am.
22:24<ourmvmt>fortunately, this is test time, but the error logs also show the following:
22:24<ourmvmt> PHP Warning: session_start(): Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent
22:25<ourmvmt>and also one for "Cannot send session cooke -- headers laready sent"
22:25<HoopyCat>it appears you're doing session_start() as something other than the very first thing going out
22:25<HoopyCat>(PHP being rather stupid about such things)
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22:26<XReaper>(PHP lets you do stupid things :) )
22:26<ourmvmt>I think you're right, but i'm going to sound really dumb explaining why
22:26<ourmvmt>there are two areas where I use session_start.
22:26<ourmvmt>for background, i'm using wordpress and a plugin
22:26<HoopyCat>ourmvmt: for your facebook uid storage in the database, are you storing it as a signed integer or something?
22:27<HoopyCat>the thing i usually use when i need to use something like this stores it as a varchar; see
22:27<ourmvmt>HoopyCat: there's no specification. actually, hang on.
22:28<ourmvmt>it's in longtext
22:29<HoopyCat>hmm. PHP isn't fudging it up somehow, is it?
22:29<ourmvmt>i think it's my design logic. one sec, gotta type in the explanation for what i mean
22:29<HoopyCat>i note that 2147483647 is exactly 2^31-1, which is not a particularly unusual number
22:29<ourmvmt>how did you...anyways, hang on
22:30<ourmvmt>there's a plugin that stores the form submissions. this is one area where a session_start for facebook is performed
22:30<ourmvmt>another area is in one of the wordpress .php pages
22:30<ourmvmt>they call them templates.
22:31<ourmvmt>when the user submits,
22:31<ourmvmt>the plugin's session is started
22:31<HoopyCat>i deal with bases 2 and 16 every day, i know my powers of two :-)
22:32<ourmvmt>however, when a user visits any page whatsoever, php's include_once('fb_init.php') also starts a facebook session
22:32<jeremyb>ourmvmt: try removing anything extra text/whitespace above <? in each file and don't use at the end ?> of any file
22:32<ourmvmt>and I note that this is how the plugin calls a session.
22:32*XReaper takes HoopyCat to the people with white coats
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22:33<HoopyCat>i'm going to file this one squarely in the "i could never get the hang of PHP" category, and will therefore go to bed
22:33<ourmvmt>so basically, two sessions have been started.
22:34<ourmvmt>and so i'm assuming htat this is where the error comes into play.
22:34<XReaper>they might be overlapping
22:35<ourmvmt>can this happen in a way that allows my own IP to take on another fb session's id?
22:35<ourmvmt>i feel like it's persisted over the server for some reason--due to the overlap
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22:39<EugeneKay>PHP is a hell of a drug.
22:40*kyhwana whips out the PHP hammer
22:41<EugeneKay>I might actually make one of those, for a laugh
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22:44<ourmvmt>ah, turns out the error is logged every time a person visits a certain page
22:44<ourmvmt>this one is separate from the join form, so it probably has nothing to do with user submission et al
22:46<ourmvmt>and yet, it still thinks my fb ID is someone else's....
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22:47<XReaper>ourmvmt: the plugin might not be using the spec properly
22:48<XReaper>on a site where it works properly I just need to go in and boom everything works :)
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22:49<ourmvmt>i'm editing the plugin code personally. also, how do i determine what hte spec is?
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22:51<XReaper>I personally would support multiple methods
22:51<XReaper>Some people may not like facebook :)
22:51<ourmvmt>ah. i'll give that another run through, their documents have been changing ever since i started working with them
22:51<ourmvmt>ha, the demographic is very much geared towards facebook. but I'd like to at least get htis method down before implementing more
22:55<ourmvmt>agh, i've been way off base on waht this problem could be..
22:55<ourmvmt>dear god. i threw the error every time I looked through the users on my database.
22:56<ourmvmt>which was every time someone accessed that specific page.
22:56<ourmvmt>so basically, i'm just finding out that i'm getting multiple requests for this page from different IP's at a really suspicious time.
22:57<ourmvmt>actually, the user is redirected to that specific page upon submitting the form...
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23:57<Dokujisan>I have a 512 linode. I need to find a way to access a snapshot of my server to make changes and test before deployment to production. Is there a way to set that up with linode? Do I need a second 512 linode instance? Can I send snapshots between them? How do you guys usually handle this?
23:58<@heckman>Dokujisan: Linode Backup Service would probably be the easiest way to do it
23:58<Dokujisan>can I backup from one linode instance/server and restore that to a different linode instance/server?
23:58<@heckman>Within the same datacenter, yes.
23:58<Dokujisan>I see
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23:59<linbot>Point (0.66541194, 0.89422245) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 703 of 882 (π ≈ 3.188208616780045 - 0.046615963190252). http://π
23:59<XReaper>restoring cross datacentre would be expensive and... first?
23:59<@heckman>If you're not backing up your Linode you're taking care of two birds with one stone.
23:59<XReaper>too early
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