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---Logopened Fri Oct 12 00:00:24 2012
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00:00<retro|blah>First
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00:43<darklrd>I want to do a cross-datacenter HA system, how should I start?
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00:46<@heckman>danblack: figuring out the best way to replicate your data between facilities
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00:48<danblack>heckman: see a problem? or are you meaning someone else?
00:48<@heckman>You asked how to start.
00:48<@Praefectus>no he didnt
00:48<@Praefectus>tabfail
00:48<@heckman>er....wtf
00:48<@heckman>darklrd: see above
00:49<@heckman>I guess r does come after n
00:49<@heckman>danblack: <3
00:49<danblack>probably in most alphabets :-)
00:50<danblack>though z isn't always last in ethiopian if you see funny grep [a-z] bits that expect to work. trivial fact of the day :-)
00:50<allan_>www.domain.com is working.but test.domain.com is not working.in my httpd.conf i even put ServerName www.test.domain.com...any thoughts?
00:51<@heckman>allan_: mind providing the real URLs and pastebinning your configuration files somewhere?
00:51<@heckman>(not redacting information will most likely be helpful to us)
00:51*Daevien redacts heckman
00:51<darklrd>:D
00:52<darklrd>heckman: yes?
00:53<danblack>on files I can recommend lsyncd
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00:53<danblack>(though I've no idea what was said earier)
00:53<@heckman>The starting point is to determine the best way to synchronize all of your data.
00:53<darklrd>Yes, correct
00:54<darklrd>I specifically want to sync redis
00:54<darklrd>I have a node.js app
00:54<@heckman>darklrd: so just run Redis in Master/Slave replication
00:54<darklrd>so I intend to keep redis in sync as well
00:54<@heckman>You'll probably want to implement some sort of SSH tunnel for it.
00:54<darklrd>Yes, but the problem is what is the master fails
00:54<darklrd>*if
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00:55<@heckman>Then you make the slave a master.
00:55<@heckman>You can easily promote a Redis instance
00:55<darklrd>yes, but then this has to be done manually?
00:55<darklrd>or can it be done automatically?
00:56<@heckman>You could write software to do it for you. But manual failover is probably better.
00:56<allan_>heckman: this is my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf http://pastebin.com/mC1txAET
00:56<darklrd>I found on github a project named redis-proxy which does this automatically
00:56<@heckman>allan_: also what distribution is this on?
00:56<darklrd>but it is still in early stage
00:56<@heckman>And...you redacted information...
00:57<darklrd>and they are not sure about whether pu-sub would still work
00:57<darklrd>*pub-su
00:57<@mikegrb>lulz
00:57<darklrd>*pub-sub lol
00:57<@heckman>hah
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00:57<darklrd>:D
00:58<@heckman>Yeah. I would just do an SSH tunnel that keeps itself connected and run master / slave
00:58<@heckman>When you need to failover, kick the DNS and promote the slave instance to a master.
00:59<darklrd>I see
00:59<darklrd>so it still needs to be done manually
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01:00<darklrd>and how much time DNS takes to reflect the change
01:00<@heckman>Depends how low you set your TTL.
01:00<@heckman>If you set a 300 second TTL at most 300 seconds.
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01:01<darklrd>still it would take time
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01:01<Hoggs>Still depends... some DNS servers choose to ignore TTL
01:02<Hoggs>bad DNS servers. :(
01:02<allan_>heckman: and this is my /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhost.conf -- http://pastebin.com/DSTNBRJu....this is my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf http://pastebin.com/mC1txAET...problem: when i browse test.domain.com its blank.i have no problem with domain.com and www.domain.com...centos 6.3 distro here
01:02<darklrd>then how to do this?
01:03<@heckman>darklrd: could run your own master NS, set up slaves in the Linode DNS Manager, and set the TTL lower.
01:03<@Praefectus>allan_: do you own domain.com?
01:04<Daevien>!redact
01:04<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs or logs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
01:04<allan_>Praefectus: yup
01:04<@heckman>allan_: I can't really be of much help if you're redacting information. Have you restarted your webserver after making changes, is there information in the DocumentRoot
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01:04<darklrd>hmm, won't it be better to have multiple linodes
01:04<darklrd>as NS
01:04<darklrd>in different regions
01:04<@Praefectus>allan_: then you need to update your dns, because nothing on domain.com points to anything linode
01:04<darklrd>and each particular NS would point to that linode itself
01:05<@heckman>darklrd: the NS running on your Linode wouldn't be authoritative. Our nameservers would pull the DNS records for your domain from it/them.
01:05<Daevien>allan_: paste your exact config, do not change anything. when you change it, you make it too hard to fix because you've changed stuff
01:05<@heckman>So yes, having one in each facility where you have stuff would probably be good. As it won't handle much traffic, it could probably coexist with other pieces of your stack.
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01:05<Daevien>so you need to either give the correct info, or sort it out yourself
01:06<darklrd>What do you mean when you say it won't be authorative?
01:06<@heckman>When people do a DNS query for your domain, it won't be handling *any* of those queries.
01:07<@heckman>It won't be one of the nameservers listed as authoritative for your domain.
01:07<allan_>heckman:Praefectus: this is the settings of my hostname in domain. http://pastebin.com/9VwPUjmf
01:07<@Praefectus>allan_: like everyone has been saying, we cant help you if you wont give us your REAL domain name
01:07<@heckman>allan_: I can't be of much help because you are redacting information. Sorry.
01:08<@heckman>Best of luck.
01:08<@Praefectus>you do not own domain.com, unless you own EIG, and if you DO own EIG, then you can call your support guys downstairs
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01:08<darklrd>Can't I configure my domain settings and include all of linodes as different nameservers?
01:08<Daevien>he did this kind of stuff the other day, really really hard to get him to do or explain anything
01:08<Kyh>!redact
01:08<allan_>Praefectus: in enom domain settings,i use default
01:08<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs or logs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
01:08<@Praefectus>allan_: again, regardless, we cant help you unless you tell us the domain name.
01:08<allan_>Praefectus: ohhh sorry.heckman.ok ill paste it now
01:09<allan_>sec
01:09<@heckman>darklrd: you would add a slave zone to the Linode DNS Manager and give it the IP address of your system(s) running the authoritative DNS software.
01:09<@heckman>You would then make the changes on those Linodes, for example, and notify our nameservers of the changes. They would then serve the new records almost immediately.
01:10<darklrd>so I can configure in this way
01:10<@heckman>You can mangle the zone files yourself within your Linode, and then have our nameservers serve those records yes.
01:11<darklrd>hmm
01:11<darklrd>anyother option?
01:11<@heckman>Realize five minutes isn't really that big of a deal. :)
01:11<darklrd>:)
01:11<darklrd>but my app has high number of concurrent users
01:12*Praefectus mangles Daevien's dns
01:12<@heckman>So does Reddit and other large profile sites. But sometimes, stuff breaks.
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01:13<darklrd>actually I have to give a demo to a client
01:13<darklrd>of the app
01:13<@heckman>I assume that includes showing a failover situation?
01:13<darklrd>1 hr long demo and I don't want it fail in b/w :P
01:13<@heckman>Ah.
01:13<darklrd>not at the moment
01:14<@heckman>Well, automated failover solutions can also wreak havoc if they start being smart for you.
01:14<Daevien>Praefectus: please don't my isp is busy mangling my internet tonight :p
01:14<darklrd>I just need to demonstrate it works :)
01:14<darklrd>heckman: exactly, sigh
01:14<@heckman>Was it Github who recent turned off their automated failovering stuff? I forget.
01:14<@heckman>s/recent/recently/
01:14<darklrd>did they? :O
01:15<Daevien>automated failover tends to cause it's own issues a lto of the time because you dont know exactly what it did or if everything worked :p
01:16<Daevien>so automated notification, manual failover IMO
01:16<@heckman>darklrd: https://github.com/blog/1261-github-availability-this-week
01:16<darklrd>correct
01:16<@heckman>"After careful consideration, we've determined that ensuring the availability of our primary production database is not one of these situations. To this end, we've made changes to our Pacemaker configuration to ensure failover of the 'active' database role will only occur when initiated by a member of our operations team."
01:17<darklrd>Ah
01:17<Daevien>tl;dr version? they caused high load, automated system took it as failure and fucked it all up :p
01:18<darklrd>I guess :)
01:18<@heckman>But that can also be caused by routing issues that may not really be affecting your app.
01:18<darklrd>to be honest, now I am scared
01:19<Daevien>HA is not something you just throw together, it's complicated :p
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01:20<darklrd>I didn't know it can be this complicated
01:20<@heckman>Yeah...
01:21<darklrd>The problem is my DB - redis - is constantly changing, otherwise I guess it could have been easier
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01:22<@heckman>darklrd: thankfully, Redis is easy to work with in your case.
01:22<praetorian>i love this shirt im wearing today
01:22<praetorian>a few people have actually understood it, which is grand.
01:22<darklrd>are you sure making a slave master in case of failover would keep pub-sub intact?
01:23<allan_>heckman, Praefectus whats the correct key to use again in nano?ive tried to ctrl+6 all the code in httpd but when i paste it in pastebon.com, nothing codes there to paste
01:23<darklrd>and what happens when previous master is back online
01:23<allan_>ctrl+6 and pasting ctrl+u in pastebin.com is not working
01:23<XReaper>praetorian: link?
01:23<praetorian>XReaper: http://www.threadless.com/submission/185373/Extra_Pulp_Fiction
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01:24<XReaper>oh, awesome :)
01:24<@heckman>darklrd: I've not played with doing it with pub-sub. But you could have the servers start as slaves, and be promoted somehow. Whether it's manual or not.
01:24<allan_>ok i got it
01:25<XReaper>read the manual
01:25<@heckman>darklrd: http://redis.io/commands/slaveof
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01:29<allan_>heckman, Praefectus this is my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf http://pastebin.com/qGUjrNEX...sorry sluggish unit took time to copy
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01:30<darklrd>heckman: thanks
01:30<darklrd>got disconnected
01:30<darklrd>I will research more
01:30<@heckman>** server can't find dummy-host.example.com: NXDOMAIN
01:30<@heckman>darklrd: np
01:31<allan_>heckman, Praefectus, this is my /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhost.conf ... http://pastebin.com/BxrTWFQQ
01:32<@heckman>I'm not too familiar with the way of configuring Apache2 on RHEL-like distros...but why do you have the same vhost twice? And which site are you having problems with?
01:32<auraka>I wonder what ever happened to that linode management/trouble shooting service
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01:33<@Praefectus>auraka: revolution is decent so far
01:33<auraka>Praefectus: agreed
01:33<allan_>heckman: i will edit httpd dummy-host.example.com i will change that to allan.captured.com?
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01:34<allan_>heckman: i cannot view allan.capturedact.com and www.allan.capturedact.com
01:34<@heckman>allan_: allan.captured.com doesn't point to an IP
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01:34<@heckman>(in your DNS settings)
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01:34<allan_>www.capturedact.com is fine. capturedact.com is pointing to 173.230.157.44 when i enter capturedact.com
01:35<XReaper>apache supports aliases
01:35<allan_>heckman: dns settings in my enom domain?
01:35<auraka>allan_: NameVirtualHost *:80 <-- that line twice will cause an issue as well I believe...have you run apache's check config against your setup?
01:35<@heckman>allan.capturedact.com -- sorry this doesn't point to an IP
01:35<allan_>in my dns settings in enom domain, i choose default coz if i use default and put all linode dns, the hostname will be gone
01:36<@heckman>Also: capturedact.com points to two different IPs...is that normal?
01:36<allan_>auraka: ok i will delete that one in /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhost.conf
01:39<auraka>Praefectus: also catch up on suits...love that show
01:39<allan_>in the ServerName option i have www.capturedact.com... i will add also ServerName www.allan.capturedact.com in httdp.conf?
01:39<allan_>re:auraka
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01:40<allan_>www.capturedact.com is blank again.and capturedact.com is showing 173.230.157.44 address in the bar
01:40<auraka>www.capturedact.com <-- is not blank for me
01:40<auraka>shows a wordpress site
01:41<allan_>thanks
01:41<allan_>how about capturedact.com?
01:41<@heckman>capturedact.com points to two IPs
01:41<auraka>redirects to the ip and then still shows the wordpress site
01:41<allan_>and allan.capturedact.com and www.allan.capturedact.com?
01:42<auraka>allan_: I'm guessing in your default server name you put the ip instead of your site?
01:42<allan_>auraka: in httpd.conf?
01:42<auraka>allan.capturedact.com <-- does not resolve
01:42<auraka>allan_: yes
01:42<allan_>ip of domain or ip of the box?
01:43<allan_>trying both now
01:43<auraka>www.allan.capturedact.com <-- does not resolve
01:43<XReaper>www.capturedact.com is a nice blank page for me
01:44<auraka>XReaper: he has two ips for it
01:44<auraka>allan_: why do you have two ips for www.capturedact.com
01:44<XReaper>Oh
01:45<allan_>its one only in my enom domain setting
01:45<XReaper>capturedact.com works though
01:45<@heckman>XReaper: also has two IPs
01:45<@heckman>You just got lucky
01:46<XReaper>Oh :)
01:46<allan_>my hostname in domain. http://pastebin.com/9VwPUjmf
01:47<auraka>umm
01:47<auraka>that shows nothing
01:47<allan_>i can see it here
01:48<XReaper>!redact
01:48<linbot>Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs or logs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are.
01:48<allan_>so inorder fo allan.capturedact.com and www.allan.capturedact.com work, i will add another ServerName?
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01:48<XReaper>your ip and domain name aren't secret
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01:52<allan_>the settings of my domain http://s8.postimage.org/6b2v47mgl/Screenshot_5.png
01:53<XReaper>oooh, that's why there are two ip's
01:53<allan_>where?
01:53<allan_>i thought its right/correct
01:54<XReaper>capturedact.com and www.capturedact.com are listed twice
01:54<XReaper>you might want to have just URL Redirect
01:54<allan_>for allan.capturedact?
01:54<XReaper>hmm
01:55<XReaper>now i'm confused "
01:55<allan_>me too
01:55<@Praefectus>not too hard to do
01:55<allan_>ok ill remove all
01:55<XReaper>Praefectus: thanks for your insightful comment
01:56<@Praefectus>anytime
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01:56<allan_>ok i have two
01:57<XReaper>allan_: is allan. on different nameservers to capturedact.com?
01:58<allan_>XReaper: ill create ServerName for allan.capturedact.com now
01:58<allan_>in httpd.conf
02:00<XReaper>allan.capturedact.com doesn't resolve
02:00<XReaper>doesn't show up in dns
02:01<allan_>this is my two setup in domain setting..www 173.230.150.44 A and @ http://www.capturedact.com Url Redirect
02:01<allan_>connection timed out :( for www.capturedact.com
02:01<allan_>and capturedact.com
02:02<allan_>maybe the tech at enom is changing their database thats why my site is taking so long to respon
02:02<XReaper>you don't need url redirect if you have an A record
02:03<allan_>ok it works now www.capturedact.com thanks XReaper
02:04<allan_>and also capturedact.com
02:04<allan_>o/
02:04<XReaper>:)
02:04<allan_>next is allan.capturedact.com and www.capturedact.com
02:04<XReaper>yup
02:05<allan_>so i will add another ServerName 173.230.157.44
02:05<allan_>its redundant
02:05<allan_>in httpd.conf
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02:07<allan_>not working
02:07<allan_>hmm
02:07<@heckman>DNS for capturedact.com is gone
02:07<XReaper>allan_: you can do ServerName capturedact.com
02:07<XReaper>if you have NameVirtualHost defined somewhere
02:09<allan_>is it loading to you XReaper? www.capturedact.com and capturedact.com?
02:09<@heckman>Oct12 02:07:09 <@heckman> DNS for capturedact.com is gone
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02:10<allan_>heckman: i use default dns there in eno setting
02:10<XReaper>yeah, not resolving at all now
02:10<@heckman>Well that means capturedact.com isn't going to work
02:10<XReaper>allan_: to make your life easier you could switch to linodes dns
02:11<XReaper>just have to change it in your domain control panel
02:11<@heckman>Doesn't look like it would be much easier.
02:11<XReaper>hmm
02:11<allan_>if i switch to linode dns for the dns settings, i am not going to edit the hostname
02:12<allan_>my site is gone again argg
02:13<allan_>ServerName 173.230.150.44 only
02:13<dcraig>if you're using name-based virtual hosting, how can you have an IP address for a ServerName?
02:14<allan_>correct
02:15<dcraig>what are all these URL redirects in your DNS configuration?
02:15<allan_>HostName: www Address: 174.230.150.44 -- A
02:15<dcraig>if you want www.capturedact.com and capturedact.com to work, you need to get rid of them
02:16<allan_>just one input there ^
02:16<dcraig>URL redirects work by setting the A records for the domains you specify to a machine hosted by your DNS provider
02:16<dcraig>so you can't simultaneously have an A record and this url redirect bullshit for the same domain
02:16<dcraig>I'm looking at your enom.com screenshot
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02:17<Todd>I met a problem : Could not instantiate mail function.
02:18<Todd> I sent the email by PHP
02:18<Todd>Should I still install email software ?
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02:19<dcraig>http://www.php.net/manual/en/mail.requirements.php
02:22<allan_>http://s9.postimage.org/alnhzngbj/Screenshot_6.png my new setting now dcraig
02:23<dcraig>you need to add a second one just like the "www" one, but use an @ instead of www
02:23<dcraig>so you will have two host records, one for @ and one for www
02:23<dcraig>that both point to your linode IP
02:23<dcraig>and that both have the record type "A (Address)"
02:25<allan_>dcraig and my ServerName is 174.230.150.44 not the domain ? re: httpd.conf
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02:26<dcraig>if you're using name-based virtual hosts, then you should probably have "ServerName capturedact.com" and "ServerAlias www.capturedact.com" within the same <VirtualHost> block
02:26<dcraig>I do not see any reason why you would ever have "ServerName 174.230.150.44"
02:27<allan_>in httpd.conf /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf or in vhost /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhost.conf?
02:27<dcraig>it doesn't matter how you organize things
02:27<allan_>coz in my httpd.conf now is www.capturedact.com
02:27<Todd>How can I install sendmail ?
02:27<Todd>wget sendmail , not work
02:27<dcraig>if your virtual host configurations are going in vhost.conf, put them there
02:28<dcraig>wget usually takes a URL as an argument
02:29<dcraig>not that specifying a URL is the answer... :p
02:29<dcraig>todd, http://library.linode.com/email
02:29<dcraig>you might pick postfix or exim
02:30<allan_>dcraig: this is my domain setting now http://s17.postimage.org/7n5l6xjbz/Screenshot_7.png
02:30<dcraig>allan_, looks great
02:30<allan_>correct now?coz www.capturedact.com and capturedact.com os not working
02:31<dcraig>both names resolve to your linode IP
02:31<dcraig>if the names are not resolving for you, it's possible you've cached the old records
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02:31<dcraig>my guess is that your next problem is that apache isn't running (or isn't listening on port 80)
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02:33<Todd>When postfix : Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
02:33<allan_>dcraig: this is my /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhost.conf http://pastebin.com/rqUc41n2 ....
02:34<dcraig>if you want allan.capturedact.com and www.allan.capturedact.com to work, they'll need A records, too
02:34<dcraig>just like @ and www in the DNS manager
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02:35<allan_>but what ip to put there dcraig?
02:35<dcraig>I'd imagine you'd use the same one
02:36<dcraig>unless your linode has two IPs and you want to keep things interesting
02:36<fulcan>my ajax gets to * Starting local and then stops??
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02:37<allan_>so www is the hostname and address: allan.capturedact.com record:A?
02:37<fulcan>ajax console
02:37<Todd>Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
02:37<dcraig>allan, only the left column in the DNS manager will be different
02:37<dcraig>you should have host name entries for @, www, allan, and www.allan
02:38<dcraig>for all 4 of those records, the address and record type should be identical
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02:38<allan_>noted
02:39<allan_>so this is my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf http://codepad.org/oDyL5gAf
02:39<allan_>pastebin.com is not accepting.im almost 10 pastes
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02:40<Todd> Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
02:40<Todd>what should I do. Guys
02:40<Todd>Please help
02:40<dcraig>you have a <VirtualHost> entry in httpd.conf that looks like it sort of duplicates what you have in vhost.conf
02:40<dcraig>so you should probably eliminate it
02:41<dcraig>at the bottom
02:41<allan_>thanks im eliminating it now
02:41<dcraig>todd, try putting "sudo" in front of the command or running it as root
02:42<allan_>dcraig: ill just put # comment :)
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02:43<allan_>dcraig: ill reboot the box now
02:43<dcraig>upgrading the kernel? :p
02:43<allan_>maybe reboot will help the problem sove
02:44<dcraig>I'm pretty sure your apache configuration will not change as a result of a reboot
02:44<dcraig>maybe a reboot will cause apache to start (assuming there are no errors)
02:45<dcraig>but you could just try to start it yourself
02:45<Todd>sudo command not found, when I " apt-get install sudo " , it said: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
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02:45<dcraig>todd, what linux distribution are you using?
02:45<Todd>debian
02:45<dcraig>sudo is already installed
02:46<dcraig>what command generated the "lock" error message previously?
02:46<allan_>dcraig: if you can see http://codepad.org/oDyL5gAf .. 1003 to 1009 i put comment (#).correct?
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02:46<dcraig>allan_, sounds like a good plan
02:46<allan_>thanks
02:47<allan_>dcraig: box is up but www.capturedact.com and capturedact.com is not loading
02:47<allan_>connection timed out :(
02:47<dcraig>as far as I can tell, apache is not running
02:47<allan_>checking apache
02:47<dcraig>maybe you should see if it is running and start it if it isn't
02:47<dcraig>maybe when you try to start it, you'll see a big error message
02:48<dcraig>and then you could go fix that error
02:48<allan_>service httpd restart
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02:48<allan_>Stopping httpd: [ OK ]
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02:48<allan_>Starting httpd: [ OK ]
02:48<allan_>normale here dcraig
02:49<dcraig>does "ps aux | grep httpd" list several httpd processes?
02:49<dcraig>or whatever name the use on your system?
02:49<dcraig>they*
02:49<allan_>yeah lots of them
02:50<allan_>pasting it now
02:50<allan_>http://codepad.org/rmVGLGYJ
02:51<fulcan>my ajax recovery console gets to * Starting local and then stops??
02:51<fulcan>I cannot access node via ajax console?
02:51<@Praefectus>is your console set properly to hvc0?
02:52<fulcan>Praefectus where is that setting at?
02:52<@Praefectus>/etc/inittab
02:55<dcraig>allan_, any chance you've configured a firewall to block requests to port 80? :p
02:58<fulcan>http://bpaste.net/show/50671/
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03:03<allan_>dcraig: this is my iptablessetup.sh http://codepad.org/Zze7FqDx
03:04<fulcan>Praefectus which one do I set to hvc0?
03:04<@Praefectus>0:
03:05<dcraig>see if your site works after running "iptables -F" ;)
03:05<fulcan>Praefectus i don't see it
03:06<@Praefectus>sorry, didnt see your ss
03:06<@Praefectus>is there more after line 58?
03:06<allan_>www.capturedact.com is not running :(
03:06<@Praefectus>oi, nvm
03:06<@Praefectus>uncomment s0
03:07<dcraig>allan_, I suggested you temporarily disable all your firewall rules and see if the site works
03:07<fulcan>ty
03:07<@Praefectus>works now?
03:09<fulcan>nope, same. :(
03:11<dcraig>goodnite, linode!
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03:12<allan_>dcraig: yeah i did
03:12<allan_>but still :(
03:13<allan_>thanks dcraig! good afternoon
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03:29<fulcan>Praefectus any thoughts?
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03:40<lakridserne>Good morning Linodians
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03:42<allan_>good afternoon :)
03:42<allan_>i think i got it Praefectus. but the host domain is different
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03:57<swapnshukla>Hi Every one I am new to Linode and IRC chat
03:58<sirpengi>hi swapnshukla
03:58<sirpengi>welcome
03:58<swapnshukla>I am running with an issue for my custom compiled kernel with use of pv-grub
03:58<swapnshukla>Thanks sirpengi
03:58<swapnshukla>and now linode support asked me to reach here for help
03:59<Kyh>yeah, that's unsupported by linode
03:59<swapnshukla>as with my custom compiled kernel I am not able to boot my server
03:59<Kyh>anyway, whats the problem? what errors are you seeing? whats your custom kernel doing/for?
03:59<swapnshukla>and I can pate the messages I am getting
03:59<Kyh>!p
03:59<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at http://p.linode.com and not in the channel
04:00<swapnshukla>ok
04:00<Daedolon>can I somehow refresh nginx so I can add url rewrites without restarting everything
04:00<Daedolon>kind of like apache has .htaccess
04:01<Kyh>Daedolon: dont think so
04:01<Daedolon>shrug
04:01<swapnshukla>@linbot --- I dont know know how to paste there
04:01<swapnshukla>as that ask the authentication to login
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04:01<Kyh>swapnshukla: ...
04:01<Kyh>swapnshukla: try reading the dialog box
04:01<@Praefectus>read the popup
04:03<swapnshukla>Thanks
04:03<sirpengi>Daedolon: there's a reload option for nginx
04:03<swapnshukla>I got that
04:03<swapnshukla>http://p.linode.com/7113
04:03<Daedolon>sirpengi for the rc.d?
04:03<Daedolon>I think I tried it but got nothing
04:03<sirpengi>what distro you running
04:03<Daedolon>arch 32bit
04:03<swapnshukla>CentOS 6.2
04:03<swapnshukla>x86_64
04:04<swapnshukla>new kernel based on linux-3.6.1
04:04<sirpengi>Daedolon: if you just /etc/rc.d/nginx doesn't it spit out options
04:04<sirpengi>reload should be one of them
04:05<KyleXY>Daedolon: or, `rc.d reload nginx`
04:05<KyleXY>heh
04:05<Kyh>swapnshukla: that's all the output you get?
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04:05<KyleXY>Daedolon: usage: /etc/rc.d/nginx {start|stop|restart|reload|check|careless_start}
04:06<Daedolon>ahh
04:06<swapnshukla>Kyh: these are terminal messages which I got at the Lish
04:06<Daedolon>it seems to work, thanks
04:06<Daedolon>I guess I didn't try it after all
04:06<swapnshukla>I didnt copy all from there
04:06<Daedolon>:: Checking nginx configuration [DONE]
04:06<Daedolon>:: Reloading nginx configuration [DONE]
04:06<Daedolon>very good
04:06<Daedolon>I don't want to shut down all my services just to fiddle with one site
04:06<Kyh>swapnshukla: copy all of them?
04:06<swapnshukla>ok plz give me a minute
04:07<swapnshukla>I rebooted my server with linode kernel now
04:07<sirpengi>Daedolon: most webservers have that option
04:07<sirpengi>because that is a very common concern
04:07<Kyh>swapnshukla: why do you want to run your own kernel?
04:07<Daedolon>sirpengi yeah, I just swapped to nginx when I started using linode
04:08<swapnshukla>Actually YES
04:08<swapnshukla>I want to compile Dahdi
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04:08<Kyh>swapnshukla: why do you need a custom kernel for that?
04:09<swapnshukla>and I have done complete Vicidial setup and just for dahdi or zaptel I am running out of meetme functionalityy
04:09<swapnshukla>Because the steps advised by the port from pathdenny did not work for me
04:09<swapnshukla>and for the working kernel of the linode I dont find a kernel surce
04:10<swapnshukla>though I could managed to compilde dahdi modules with manual kernel i.e. linu-3.6.1 but that is not working
04:10<swapnshukla>*post from pathdenny
04:12<swapnshukla>http://p.linode.com/7114
04:12<Kyh>uh,huh, I could've sworn the kernel source was up somewhere
04:12<swapnshukla>Apologies I am first timer at linode
04:13<swapnshukla>and could not find the right source even with the help of Support guys
04:14<swapnshukla>I am using Latest 3.5 (3.5.2-x86_64-linode26
04:14<Kyh>hmm, never used PVgrub myself
04:16<swapnshukla>oh ... but any guidance... I am look around ?
04:16<Kyh>swapnshukla: did you try one of the howtos?
04:16<ehg>swapnshukla: have you read http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/PV-GRUB ?
04:17<ehg>following that worked for me for ubuntu precise. mostly worked for me.
04:17<swapnshukla>oh... but any guidance to give me right direction ?
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04:18<ehg>if you're actually compiling a custom kernel, you may need to enable xen support or something (for paravirt)
04:19<swapnshukla>Kyh: any guidance to give me some direction
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04:19<Kyh>swapnshukla: nope, read the howtos. i've not used pv-grub, as I said
04:19<@Praefectus>swapnshukla: did you read the guide?
04:19<swapnshukla>Yes I did complete steps as per guide
04:19<swapnshukla>and I am 100% sure that I did not miss even a , from that
04:20<swapnshukla>and I did compilation 3 times
04:22<swapnshukla>any guidance from any one would help me.... as right now I am not left with any idea as where to go and what to do
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04:25<swapnshukla>Sorry I got logged out from here
04:25<ehg>swapnshukla: hmm, i think i needed to add barrier=0 to my fstab for xvda, otherwise it wouldn't boot
04:25<swapnshukla>egh: thanks for your tip... can you please give me little more idea about that entry
04:26<swapnshukla>i.e. is this some specific way that need to be done in linode instances or would be common format
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04:27<ehg>i think it is/was a bug in kernel 3.2, perhaps it's been fixed
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04:27<swapnshukla>I am using 3.6.1 though
04:28<swapnshukla>where can I verify if that is resolved with your said bug
04:28<ehg>no idea
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04:29<ehg>3.6.1 is pretty new, you have more luck with a 3.5
04:29<ehg>*may
04:30<swapnshukla>Ok let me try your barrier=0 first if that works
04:30<swapnshukla>then will try with compiling 3.5
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04:33<XReaper>Oh you're doing a pv-grub kernel
04:34<XReaper>not all hosts support barriers so it's a bit of trial-and-error
04:34<swapnshukla>:) yes
04:34<swapnshukla>Yeap that still didnt work
04:34<swapnshukla>barrier=0 .... I am using centos6.2 though
04:35<XReaper>using the config from /proc/config.gz?
04:35<swapnshukla>yes
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04:35<swapnshukla>and then first make of oldconfig
04:35<XReaper>i think it's barriers=0 i'll check
04:35<swapnshukla>but there it did ask for so many new features
04:35<swapnshukla>which I said no to all
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04:38<swapnshukla>I did this -- /dev/xvda / ext3 noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=0 0 1
04:39<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54172#p54172>
04:40<XReaper>swapnshukla: anyhow, not even arch linux is shipping with 3.6.1... so i don't reccomend trying that
04:40<XReaper>it might be barriers (plural)
04:40<swapnshukla>Ok
04:40<swapnshukla>so what a suggestion is like ?
04:40<XReaper>start with latest stable linode kernel as a base and work from there
04:41<swapnshukla>I whoudl first try with barriers=0 and if that doesnt work I wshould try compiling 3.5
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04:41<XReaper>mmm
04:41<swapnshukla>ok I have 3.5.1 also present at my server
04:41<swapnshukla>just would need to be compiled
04:41<swapnshukla>I am going to do that
04:42<swapnshukla>may we will come back with resutls in some time :)
04:45<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54173#p54173>
04:45<XReaper>oh nvm it is barrier=0...
04:46<swapnshukla>Ok no problem... as I have decided to first come to a stable kernel release
04:46<swapnshukla>is 3.5.1 is alright or should I move little more earlier ?
04:46<swapnshukla>what you advice
04:48<XReaper>you could use 3.5.2 with the config grabbed from the linode kernel
04:48<XReaper>if you can get that working, perhaps something changed in 3.6.1
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04:49<swapnshukla>yes I have started exactly the way you suggest
04:49<swapnshukla>will post results in some time
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04:49<XReaper>:)
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04:58<rizaa>hello any one can help me
05:01<XReaper>rizaa: hi
05:01<XReaper>i can't help you ask your question :)
05:02<rizaa>i loging to linode account
05:02<allan_>XReaper: its now ok :)
05:02<allan_>thanks too XReaper :)
05:02<XReaper>allan_: awesome :)
05:02<rizaa>then i want to check cpanel detl
05:02<allan_>thanks dcraig :)
05:02<XReaper>rizaa: you have to buy/install cpanel yourself
05:02<rizaa> how can that ?
05:03<@Praefectus>rizaa: you were told last week no one here can help you with your cpanel details, you need to contact your project manager
05:03<XReaper>not supplied
05:03<@mikegrb>lulz
05:03<XReaper>oh lol
05:03<allan_>heckman Praefectus thanks :)
05:03<rizaa>yes your correct
05:03<rizaa>i have another loging
05:03<rizaa> i can see dash baord also
05:03*KyleXY doesn't understand the question
05:03<rizaa>using atht login
05:04<XReaper>cpanel and linode manager are completely different things
05:04<allan_>now im going to install wikipedia :) i will save there my past errors and solutions :)
05:04<XReaper>:P
05:04<XReaper>allan_: you mean mediawiki?
05:04<@Praefectus>XReaper: he was told that last week too
05:04<XReaper>Praefectus: i remember
05:04<KyleXY>I vaguely remember as well
05:04<rizaa>??
05:05<XReaper>we've had this conversation before
05:05<KyleXY>rizaa: Linode *isn't* a cPanel host
05:05<KyleXY>rizaa: if you want that shit, go to hostgator or something.
05:05<rizaa>then ?
05:05<KyleXY>Linode *isn't* for you at this rate,
05:05<XReaper>do you already have cpanel installed?
05:05<XReaper>if you do then get support from cpanel
05:06<allan_>XReaper : oh yeah. sorry
05:06<@Praefectus>KyleXY: linode doesnt provide cpanel licenses, it doesnt mean you cant use it, so stop with the misinformation
05:06<rizaa>how can acces my hosted site Database also
05:06<allan_>KyleXY thanks too :)
05:06<KyleXY>Praefectus: Misinformation? Sorry, I don't believe he'll be able to install and maintain a cPanel installation :p
05:07<rizaa>?
05:07<XReaper>allan_: just make sure you lock it down or you'll get hit with a lot of spam and run out of disk space
05:07<@Praefectus>then specify rather than making broad general statements
05:07<KyleXY>Praefectus: Especially since, at this rate, this is a dejavu moment
05:08<rizaa>how to insall cpanle
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05:08<swapnshukla>XReaper: I am back and checking if that boots
05:08<@mikegrb>lulz
05:08<XReaper>lol
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05:08<allan_>XReaper : yeah. this is my iptables iptablessetup.sh http://codepad.org/Zze7FqDx ... kindly check if it is correct?
05:09<XReaper>looks fine to me
05:09<allan_>i want 443,80 for apache and 8080 for nginx, and ssh
05:09<XReaper>mmm
05:09<XReaper>hmm
05:09<XReaper>apache proxying to nginx/
05:09<XReaper>?
05:09<swapnshukla>no luck
05:09<XReaper>that's a little odd
05:09<XReaper>swapnshukla: no? Hmm...
05:10<allan_>just for testing if i can do it nginx to listen to 8080
05:10<XReaper>kk, makes sense to me :)
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05:10<allan_>like test.domain.com:8080 for nginx
05:10<XReaper><3 nginx
05:10<XReaper>yup
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05:10<allan_>XReaper: any other ports that i will close down?
05:10<rizaa>??
05:10<XReaper>allan_: should be fine
05:10<swapnshukla>http://p.linode.com/7115
05:11<XReaper>just make sure nothing is listening that you don't want
05:11<Kyh>rizaa: there's a guide on how to install cpanel somewhere
05:11<allan_>XReaper: i just follow the linode iptables samples
05:11<XReaper>mmm
05:11<allan_>got it
05:11<Kyh>rizaa: https://library.linode.com/web-applications/control-panels/cpanel
05:12<allan_>wget http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.2.tar.gz
05:12<allan_>opssss
05:12<allan_>sorry
05:12<allan_>too excited
05:13<swapnshukla>I can at least say that not saying unknown partition table for xvda :
05:14<allan_>do i need to follow the exact version of mediawiki in tutorial?or i will get the latest from the site? http://library.linode.com/web-applications/wikis/mediawiki its 1.17.0...mediawiki site's new is 1.19.2
05:15<swapnshukla>any guess, idea, help
05:16<allan_>nvm.ill get the latest
05:18<rizaa>after loged linode acount can i get ftp deatils
05:18<@Praefectus>rizaa: im not telling you again, you were told last week you need to contact your project manager
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05:19<rizaa>yes now new login detail this
05:19<rizaa>not old one
05:20<rizaa>he gave new userlogin
05:21<Kyh>rizaa: new user login to what?
05:21<rizaa>linode
05:21<KyleXY>who gave new login details?
05:21<KyleXY>:/
05:22<rizaa>project manager
05:22<Kyh>rizaa: .. the linode dashboard, lish or the actual linode itself?
05:22<rizaa> yeh i can see dachboard also
05:22<rizaa>this login
05:22<XReaper>allan_: latest can be best :)
05:23<Kyh>rizaa: the linode dashboard? Do you have an installed and running linode then?
05:24<rizaa>i dont no how to install
05:24<KyleXY>rizaa: first, go buy a cPanel license, second, go read a guide online, third, bug us with errors.
05:25<Kyh>rizaa: read https://library.linode.com/getting-started
05:25<KyleXY>http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/InstallationGuide/WebHome might be relevant too
05:27<rizaa>we have alredy host saoem website
05:27<KyleXY>then, seriously, what is your dang question?
05:28<KyleXY>If you must, ask it in your language. Google translate will be easier to decrypt this riddle
05:28<rizaa>nop typing misatkes
05:29<KyleXY>rizaa: no, really really really hard to understand english, I really can't figure out what you're asking/where you are
05:29<KyleXY>if you installed cPanel yet, or if you haven't.
05:29<rizaa>extraemly sorry
05:29<KyleXY>rizaa: So, if you must, take it to a PM in your native language
05:29<rizaa>nop yet
05:30<rizaa>please tell me this..
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05:31<allan_>XReaper: im almost done :)
05:32<rizaa>our company host thire site in linode then now i need to log it.. so do i nee to buy Cpanle License
05:32<rizaa>?
05:32<KyleXY>Wait
05:32<@Praefectus>rizaa: no, you need to contact whoever set up the linode and talk to them about access
05:32<KyleXY>you're not even the linode customer?
05:32<KyleXY>Really?
05:33<rizaa>then?
05:33<Kyh>rizaa: if you don't know how to access the linode itself, go talk to whoever set it up
05:34<KyleXY>Then, why are you asking us the questions?
05:34<KyleXY>Hell if we know!
05:34<rizaa>yeh that guy resign
05:34<KyleXY>...
05:34<Kyh>rizaa: then talk to whoever he gave the login details to
05:34<linbot>New news from forum: Help with setting up Citadel (Debian 6 Squeeze) in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9447&p=54174#p54174>
05:34<rizaa>i am newly come to here
05:35<rizaa>that given lohinng deatils
05:35<KyleXY>rizaa: We honestly don't know man
05:35<KyleXY>we don't know whatever the crap your login details are
05:35<KyleXY>if we knew, that wouldn't be secure now would it?
05:35<Kyh>rizaa: you can't even tell us what you're even wanting to/trying to do
05:36<rizaa>ok
05:36<rizaa>now iwill try maximum\
05:36<rizaa>thnak for copertaopn
05:37<rizaa>please if i have any doubt i wil aske agin
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05:49<CaveJohnson>...u wot m8
05:53<fulcan>my ajax recovery console gets to * Starting local and then stops??
05:54<Kyh>fulcan: gentoo?
05:54<fulcan>yes
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05:55<Kyh>fulcan: do you get anything after "starting local"?
05:56<fulcan>[ok]
05:56<fulcan>thats it
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05:58<Kyh>fulcan: hmm, is this a new deployment?
05:59<fulcan>yes. this is happening on many servers
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06:01<Kyh>sounds like an inittab or similar issue. uh, is this a new version of gentoo?
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06:05<XReaper>fulcan: if it doesn't work with a clean image then i'd submit a ticket saying it's broken
06:06<XReaper>Kyh: gentoo doesn't do releases does it
06:07<Kyh>I thought it did, I dunno
06:07<XReaper>p. sure it's rolling
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06:19<Anomie>Hey having some issues, I changed the name servers for manhattanminx.co.uk over to ns1-4.linode.com last week, and set up the name-based virtual host, reset apache, etc
06:20<Anomie>but the site is unaccessible, can't ping it, can't test the DNS - and I can't get back into the admin cp as I used to access it from the sites URL
06:20<@Praefectus>did you add the domain in your dns manager?
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06:21<Kyh>and you've only got ns1 and ns2.linode.com.
06:21<praetorian>https://twitter.com/pwae/status/256699299902156800/photo/1/large
06:23<Kyh>yeah, linode's DNS servers don't seem to have a zone for that domain.
06:23<@Praefectus>Kyh: that wouldnt matter, but he doesnt have the domain in our dns manager
06:23<Kyh>Praefectus: hmm, ok
06:23<@Praefectus>lot of people seem to only use 2 ns
06:24<XReaper>a lot of shitty providers only allow 2
06:24<Anomie>Praefectus: yep
06:25<@Praefectus>Anomie: yep what?
06:25<Anomie>I'll double check but I'm sure I added it into the DNS Manager last week
06:25<@Praefectus>no you didnt
06:25<Anomie>Ah, I've spelled it wrong :/
06:25<Kyh>Or you added it wrong
06:25<Kyh>yeah
06:25<XReaper>that helps :)
06:25<Anomie>manhattenminx.co.uk vs manhattanminx.co.uk
06:26<rizaa>hello
06:27<rizaa>can you expalin Putty settup
06:27<@Praefectus>rizaa: http://library.linode.com/networking/using-putty
06:27<Kyh>https://library.linode.com/networking/using-putty
06:27<Kyh>bah, snaped
06:27<@Praefectus>try searching the library first as there is a wealth of information there
06:28<XReaper>I personally use KiTTY
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06:38<swapnshukla>Hi I am back
06:39<swapnshukla>As suggested by "Les" or "Akerl" from the support team that many people here are using custom kernel including himself ... My question -- is there any other method available too then the pv-grub ?
06:39<@Praefectus>if you want to use a custom kernel, you have to use pvgrub
06:40<swapnshukla>I have checked that kernel as well initrd while downloading and merging at a CentOS VM at my local setup
06:40<swapnshukla>that is working alright
06:41<swapnshukla>means my compiled kernel is good .... Now the doubt is either on two things #1- pv-grub, #2- Linode environment --- Unfortunately I am newbie to both of these areas
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06:43<swapnshukla>Any thought GURUs ?
06:43<swapnshukla>please help
06:43<@Praefectus>you are obviously doing something wrong as a ton of people follow the guide without issue
06:45<swapnshukla>I totally agree ..!!! is there a ways to know what is that "something" which I must be doing wrong ?
06:45<@Praefectus>are you following the guide step-by-step? you probably skipped over something
06:46<XReaper>you also don't need an initrd
06:46<XReaper>unless that is the real reason for compiling the kernel in the first place...
06:47<swapnshukla>yeah with pv-grub I dont need that, but I explained that I ran the same kernel at my local VM there I used GRUB...... and Yes I am now almost 5 times done with that guide and I am sure that I even not miss a single "," from that
06:47<XReaper>mmm
06:47<XReaper>do you get -any- output from lish?
06:48<swapnshukla>7115 post has that
06:48<rizaa>hello
06:48<swapnshukla>the last update from lish screen
06:48<swapnshukla>http://p.linode.com/7115
06:48<swapnshukla>again for reference
06:48<swapnshukla>this is with kernel 3.5.2
06:48<rizaa>any one can join with me
06:49<Anomie>root@server1:~# a2dissite manhattanminx.co.uk Site manhattanminx.co.uk disabled. To activate the new configuration, you need to run: service apache2 reload root@server1:~# service apache2 reload * Reloading web server config apache2
06:49<Kyh>rizaa: o.o This isn't that kind of channel
06:49<Anomie>The site should be inaccessible after that, or is there some sort of wait?
06:49<rizaa>ok
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06:50<XReaper>swapnshukla: also remove alsa... why that's installed...
06:50<rizaa>some time our password or usernam forget have it forgot password option???
06:50<XReaper>and that looks like it booted fine
06:51<Kyh>rizaa: if you've forgotten the root password to your linode, you can reset it from the dashboard
06:51<XReaper>swapnshukla: also remove mdadm
06:51<XReaper>you don't need raid :)
06:51<swapnshukla>XR: alsa I did remove in my last attempt though but yes mdadm I didnt
06:51<XReaper>kay
06:52<swapnshukla>thought if some way or other Linode old config had that
06:52<rizaa>i set up putty
06:52<rizaa>given password is wrong in CMD promet
06:52<rizaa>prompt
06:52<Kyh>rizaa: no idea what you're talking about
06:53<XReaper>swapnshukla: so it just stopped there? never started init?
06:53<XReaper>swapnshukla: you can do Ctrrl+a Esc to get scrollback in screen
06:54<swapnshukla>Yes nothing further coming up at least for last 4 attempts
06:54<swapnshukla>thatnks for hint on scrollback
06:56<rizaa>ok
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06:57<swapnshukla>XR: may be I have not understood the scrollback part
06:57<swapnshukla>can you please explain
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06:57<rizaa>you told me linode is not Cpanel then how can check my site is in which hosting site hosted
06:57<rizaa>?
06:58<Kyh>What? you ssh into your linode and do stuff from the CLI.
06:58<Kyh>(or install cpanel)
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07:00<rizaa>i ddint understand what you said
07:00<Kyh>That's OK, I didn't understand what you said, really
07:00<rizaa>please explain
07:01<rizaa>finaly i am asking you
07:01<rizaa>this is my problem
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07:02<rizaa> i have only linode login detail so i want to get ftp deatils of my site http://byondalert.com
07:02<rizaa>how can do this
07:03<Kyh>rizaa: you get the ftp details from the person that set it up.
07:03<Kyh>Or you ssh in and change/setup your ftp server. (Don't use FTP)
07:03<rizaa>ok he is not in our comapny.. so some time we forget ftp deail so how can get again
07:04<Kyh>So then you need to ssh in and change your ftp server accounts
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07:08<swapnshukla>XR: can you please re explain me about the scroll back thing
07:09<rizaa>ok i have given detail SSH -> Tunnel port 3306 and Destination 127.0.0.1:3306
07:09<rizaa>then clik open but not working
07:09<Kyh>rizaa: what
07:09<Kyh>rizaa: what are you trying to do?
07:10<Kyh>(port 3306 is usually mysqld)
07:10<rizaa>i am triying like this http://library.linode.com/networking/using-putty#sph_using-ssh-tunnels
07:11<Kyh>rizaa: why are you doing SSH tunnelling?
07:11<rizaa>you told me chnage ssh
07:11<rizaa>??
07:11<rizaa>waht is that?
07:11<Kyh>what?
07:12<rizaa>ssh in and change your ftp server accounts
07:12<Kyh>yes
07:12<Kyh>if you don't know how to do that, well.
07:12<rizaa>yes
07:12<Kyh>I think you need to find someone at your company that can do that for you
07:12<rizaa>i am only develoer here
07:13<Kyh>You need a sysadmin
07:13<rizaa>no one cant do that
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07:13<rizaa>ok finaly can tel ssh in and change your ftp server accounts?
07:13<Kyh>well, you're pretty boned then. Find a coworker who has kids that know linux, get them to do it
07:14<rizaa>finaly can you tel me ssh in and change my ftp server accounts
07:14<BP{k}>I think the "no one can/cant do it" is a bit of weird claim frankly.
07:14<Kyh>rizaa: you ssh into your linode with either your root login details or the user account you have, then change your ftp server accounts. (But seriously, you don't want to use ftp)
07:15<Kyh>and with that, it's bedtime
07:16<praetorian>hi
07:18<jarr0dsz>hi everyone
07:18<jarr0dsz>are there known issues with linode and gmail when sending mail from server?
07:18<jarr0dsz>im getting this NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from lixxx-xxx.members.linode.com[xxx.xx.xxx.xxx]: 554 5.7.1 <mymailbox@gmail.com>: Relay access denied; from=<noreply@appthatsendingthemail.com> to=<mymailbox@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mymailserver.com>
07:18<jarr0dsz>and no idea why other mail functionality works fine
07:20<praetorian>'relay access denied' means your server is trying to send mail as whatever domain to someone else and is being denied
07:21<praetorian>..wait for some reason i feel i just gave you wrong information
07:21<praetorian>can you like, just list the correct domains?
07:21<swapnshukla>I guess I am left alone here :)... nvm... will knock myhead more and see if I can find some thing interesting out of it
07:21<praetorian>Spitfire: what was your q?
07:21<praetorian>i mean swapnshukla
07:22<swapnshukla>I am using pv-grub
07:22<swapnshukla>and my results are in http://p.linode.com/7115
07:23<swapnshukla>and this was the 5 th attempt I did and tried with linux-3.5.2 kernel
07:23<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54176#p54176> || Naming Servers - Best Practices in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9446&p=54175#p54175>
07:23<swapnshukla>and I followed all the ste-bystep instructions from the guide
07:24<swapnshukla>and I also tested the comiled kernel to my local setup available VM and that works alright
07:24<swapnshukla>means my compiled kernel is good and even good for virtual hypervisor of Virtual box even
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07:24<praetorian>mm
07:25<swapnshukla>but I am with no clue now what is wrong I am doing so not able to boot that in linode
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07:26<praetorian>2 ecs, ill brb
07:26<praetorian>i havent done pv-grub before btw - but did you read the library doc?
07:26<swapnshukla>Yes I did throught he library doc itself
07:27<swapnshukla>I believe that itself is also referred as guide
07:27<swapnshukla>or if the guide is some thing else ?
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07:35<praetorian>guide/doc .. same diff
07:37<swapnshukla>Ok
07:37<swapnshukla>but any guidance on my issue
07:37<swapnshukla>or any direction you might give for proceeding
07:38<praetorian>so, your kernel exists in right place on your xvda disk?
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07:41<XReaper>swapnshukla: is your inittab console device specified correctly
07:41<XReaper>you also need to disable the xenify distro checkbox in your profile (it messes things up)
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07:42<sbyrne>If ns[12].linode.com suddenly stop working as axfr masters for my domains, is there some log I can check? Everything looks fine on the axfr master.
07:43<XReaper>can't you use all 5?
07:43<swapnshukla>praetorian: I beleive yes as that keeps the source under /usr/src/kernels/linux-3.5.2 and vmlinuz is inside /boot
07:43<sbyrne>I did not realize there were 5. None are working.
07:44<XReaper>sbyrne: did you add a slave zone in the dns manager?
07:44<sbyrne>XReaper: yes. This has been working for years. All of a sudden it is not.
07:44<swapnshukla>XR: inittab console device ? I am not sure of can you please put more light, send part I am going to do now
07:44<XReaper>hmm
07:44<XReaper>swapnshukla: first make sure the xenify distro checkbox is unchecked in the profile
07:45<XReaper>swapnshukla: pastebin your /etc/inittab
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07:46<praetorian>sbyrne: wanna tell us the domain? then we can have a query and see if we are seein what you are
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07:47<sbyrne>praetorian: sbyrne.net
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07:48<praetorian>well it resolved when you connected here.
07:48<rizaa>hello
07:48<sbyrne>praetorian: I have ns1.sbyrne.net as NS too. That one is working.
07:48<XReaper>sbyrne: add the other three linode nses
07:48<rizaa>i have no VPS details
07:48<praetorian>however isee linoe is providing a servfail for your domain
07:48<praetorian>i see linode*
07:49<XReaper>Oh, and so it is
07:49<rizaa> now can i get it?
07:49<praetorian>sbyrne: are linodes slave or master?
07:51<sbyrne>The linode is set up to allow axfr transfers from wxfr.linode.com. Is that correct?
07:51<praetorian>so linode dns is a slave to ns1.sbyrne.net?
07:51<XReaper>they may have changed this since you last set it up :)
07:51<praetorian>and indeed.
07:51<XReaper>wxfr.linode.com. still exists
07:51<sbyrne>praetorian: yes, the master is ns1.sbyrne.net
07:52<praetorian>sbyrne: if you consult your logs.. do you have an issue with failed xfrs?
07:52<swapnshukla>XR: no luck with xenify off
07:52<XReaper>sbyrne: check if the ip of your linode is correct in the whitelist
07:52<swapnshukla>now rebooting with linode kernel and will pastbin that
07:52<XReaper>swapnshukla: boot into finnix, mount xvda on /mnt and pastebin the contents of /mnt/etc/inittab
07:52<XReaper>it kinda sorta won't work now with the linode kernels if the inittab is wrong
07:53<praetorian>also make sure sbyrne, that the ip listed in https://manager.linode.com/dns/domain_slave/sbyrne.net is correct for the master still.
07:53<sbyrne>XReaper: whitelist? my IP is listed in "Masters"
07:53<praetorian>Ok.
07:53<XReaper>kay
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07:53<praetorian>can you consult your named log on your ns1.sbyrne.net then
07:54<sbyrne>If it fails to do the axfr once, how long will it wait before trying again?
07:54<swapnshukla>XR: Ok though I rebooted
07:54<praetorian>you can force it sbyrne
07:54<swapnshukla>but will change that back again and then do the way you said
07:54<praetorian>from the master: rndc notify sbyrne.net
07:55<praetorian>(as a su)
07:55<XReaper>sbyrne: also there are 5 nameservers now :)
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07:56<praetorian>sorry its rndc notify zone sbyrne.net
07:56<XReaper>never heard of the wxfr till now
07:58<praetorian>alternatively, update your serial for the domain, and reload the zone
07:59<sbyrne>praetorian: Do you know an easy way to do the notify if I'm not using bind?
07:59<praetorian>what are you using?
08:00<sbyrne>powerdns
08:00<praetorian>the 'easier' way would be to just update a record in your domain to cause a refresh
08:00<praetorian>okay.. um
08:00<sbyrne>I can do that.
08:00<praetorian>ok
08:00<XReaper>sbyrne: i generally do a reload using the service manager
08:00<rizaa>heelo
08:01<praetorian>sbyrne: once you do that.. check logs.
08:02<sbyrne>Time for work. I'll look at it later.
08:02<XReaper>:)
08:02<praetorian>ok
08:03<praetorian>i should do some coding
08:03<praetorian>i've alway thought about moving to powerdns.. but i dunno
08:03<praetorian>a sql powered dns system seems wrong
08:03<XReaper>he.net uses it i think
08:03<XReaper>praetorian: works for some who need the flexibility :)
08:04<praetorian>yeah i agree
08:04<praetorian>its a great idea
08:05<praetorian>XReaper: did you see my story about driving?
08:06<XReaper>praetorian: no, i think i might have missed it :)
08:06<praetorian>XReaper: https://twitter.com/pwae/status/256699299902156800/photo/1/large
08:06<praetorian>chesty: saw it.
08:06<praetorian><3 chesty
08:09<swapnshukla>Friends I am done for the day on this issue XR: Thank you very much for you all co-operation.... I will touch back again may be tomorrow or some time and will come back here... Right now have other deadlines to achieve :)
08:09<praetorian>ok. just rethink if you really need pv-grub too btw
08:09<praetorian>;)
08:09<swapnshukla>actually I dont i only need either ztdummy or dahdi_dummy to have my meetme work at vicidial :)
08:10<swapnshukla>doing all of what... even I dont know why ;)
08:10<praetorian>heh
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08:11<XReaper>ha, that
08:11<XReaper>that's crazy
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08:13<chesty>he was on news24 just then
08:14<swapnshukla>give me the source for 3.5.2_linode26.. I wont behave crazy then :)
08:14<praetorian>chesty: lollers.
08:14<chesty>praetorian: were there any choppers ?
08:14<praetorian>nah
08:14<XReaper>swapnshukla: kernel.org
08:15<swapnshukla>there is only linux-3.5.2 which is supposed to be the same
08:15<XReaper>swapnshukla: linode kernels are mainline, unpatched
08:15<swapnshukla>but the compiled module dont work with that source in present kernel
08:15<chesty>why does linode have 26 revisions on 3.5.2 if it was mainline
08:16<XReaper>...
08:16<XReaper>swapnshukla: are you meant to be using a 64-bit kernel?
08:17<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54177#p54177>
08:23<marius>This is a bit of a longshot, but does anyone here speak Chinese ?
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08:31<praetorian>marius: google does chinese not too badly. how well do you need it ?
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08:35<swapnshukla>Yes I am with a 64 bit kernel
08:35<marius>Praefectus, better tha ngoogle managed it :<
08:36<praetorian>i'm praetorian
08:36<rohara>close~
08:36<praetorian>marius: try bings as well maybe ..http://www.bing.com/translator/
08:36<praetorian>i find it does things differently
08:36<swapnshukla>XR: I am using 64 bit linode kernel as well compiling the linux-3.5.2 also in 64 bit
08:36<praetorian>but yeah, not well enough for anything you want to send to people
08:37<marius>oooh
08:37<marius>that is better :o
08:37<marius>it's coherent there, never thought I'd like their result better
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08:37<praetorian>yeah. i was surprised too
08:37<praetorian>note: in google translate tho, you can click the translated words and get 'alternatives'
08:38<marius>yeah but when it does words and not phrases I dont' know what I'm supposed ot make it out to be xD
08:38*praetorian nods
08:38<praetorian>another thing i found is en.wiktionary.org/wiki/<character>
08:38<praetorian>can be useful
08:38<praetorian>eg en.wiktionary.org/wiki/左
08:38<marius>Interesting
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08:41<marius>Cheers =)
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08:43<XReaper>akerl: hi there
08:43<praetorian>np marius
08:44<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54178#p54178>
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08:47<adityamenon>Hi
08:48<adityamenon>I'm trying to add newlines to the end of a file: I expected `echo "/n/n/n" >> file.txt ` would interpret the /n as a newline\
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08:49<adityamenon>but it adds /n/n/n on a new line
08:49<adityamenon>what i's the easiest way to add three newlines to the end of a file?
08:49<adityamenon>... from within a shell command
08:50<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54179#p54179>
08:50<adityamenon>do I have to dive off the deep end and get into sed/AWK?
08:52<dzho>adityamenon: might want to use the HERE document approach
08:52<adityamenon>this worked: echo "" >> file.txt; echo "" >> file.txt; echo "" >> file.txt
08:52<XReaper>asedeno: echo -i
08:53<XReaper>*echo -e
08:53<XReaper>i think
08:53<XReaper>adityamenon: backslash n silly :P
08:53<XReaper>\n
08:53<adityamenon>oh? let me check that out XReaper :)
08:54<XReaper>echo "\n\n" >> file.txt
08:54<XReaper>owait, the echo -e is important. causes it to literally evaluate escapes
08:55<adityamenon>:( no, it adds the literal \n
08:55<adityamenon>pass -e argument? okay will do
08:55<adityamenon>worked!
08:55<XReaper>there you go
08:55<adityamenon>echo -e "\n\n\n" >> file.txt
08:55<adityamenon>many thanks
08:55<adityamenon>good day! :)
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09:06<sbyrne>Ah. You have to allow AXFR from ns?.linode.com, not just from wxfr.linode.com
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09:06<sbyrne>That's new apparently?
09:08<XReaper>sbyrne: yup
09:08<XReaper>sbyrne: wxfr is only used when importing a zone
09:08<XReaper>sbyrne: can you add all 5 nses?
09:08<hawk>Not sure if it's new, though?
09:09<XReaper>would be a good idea to add all 5 nses :D
09:09<sbyrne>Either AXFR used to come from wxfr or I had my iptables wrong. The latter is not at all unlikely.
09:09<XReaper>they come direct
09:09<XReaper>you do the notifies, then the nses afxr directly
09:11<sbyrne>I guess I had my iptables set up wrong.
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09:17<sbyrne>praetorian: XReaper: Thank you for the help.
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09:23<XReaper>:)
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09:36<ericoc>amazon is down D:
09:37<XReaper>:D
09:37<XReaper>ericoc: it's a good thing
09:37<ericoc>they need a nodebalancer
09:38<XReaper>ha
09:38<XReaper>tis back now
09:39<XReaper>i get an occasional Http/1.1 Service Unavailable :D
09:39<ericoc>$ curl www.amazon.com
09:39<ericoc><html><body><b>Http/1.1 Service Unavailable</b></body> </html>
09:39<ericoc>yeah, it's up and down
09:39<XReaper>ericoc: keep smashing f5
09:39<XReaper>yeah, some of their servers are down
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09:40<XReaper>talk about fail failover
09:40<squircle>amazon.ca is up, just sayin'
09:40<squircle>also, never noticed the last line of their homepage is <!-- MEOW -->
09:40<XReaper>ericoc: and when it does work, it's REALLY slow
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09:41<squircle>at least AWS isn't down
09:42<hays>What kind of resources can linode bring to bear if a user's system is hacked? Understand the local console helps you get in for log review/cleanup. But are there any logs or other information that linode can provide to help?
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09:42<XReaper>squircle: for once it isn't!
09:43<@caker>hays: we don't log network connections to your Linode, so nothing really
09:43<Albert>what's the port for sftp ?
09:43<XReaper>Albert: 22
09:43<@caker>grep sftp /etc/services
09:43<XReaper>Albert: it uses ssh for the connection :)
09:43*XReaper grumbles at his minecraft server
09:43<Albert>I want to use Editplus to open the file remotely
09:44<Albert>As if I use SSH. I can't use UTF-8 to edit the non ascii charactors
09:44<@akerl>o.O
09:44<@akerl>That sounds like a local terminal issue
09:45<Albert>It seems. I use putty for SSH.
09:45<Albert>any other software better ?
09:45<@akerl>Linux?
09:45<@akerl>(:
09:45<Albert>no , windows
09:45<ericoc>/usr/bin/ssh
09:45<@akerl>^^
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09:46<hays>caker: good to know
09:47<Yaakov>caker!
09:47<hays>i was having a problem with putty copy/paste working weird today. meh. putty is annoying
09:47<Yaakov>I LOVE YOU MAN
09:47<hays>why can't windows provide a freaking decent shell and utilities
09:47<hays>would it be that damn hard
09:47<squircle><3 powershell
09:47*squircle hides
09:48<hays>and i will punch the next person that says cygwin
09:48<@heckman>Cygwin
09:48*heckman stares at his @
09:48<hays>squircle: does powershell have ssh?
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09:48<Yaakov>hays: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
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09:48<squircle>hays: as in "can you just type ssh'", no
09:49<XReaper>heckman: was gonna say :P
09:49<Yaakov>And http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/
09:49<XReaper>good man
09:49<squircle>hays: but you can just install openssh for windows and use ssh at a cmd prompt
09:49<hays>Yaakov: i will definitely check those out when i am in win7 jail
09:50<squircle>serious question: is it possible to make Win98SE start in DOS mode, or do you need Win95 for that?
09:50<Yaakov>Also: http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/
09:50<@akerl>o.O
09:50<XReaper>squircle: heh..., might be time to hide in that hole of yours
09:50<squircle>##windows laughed at me for asking, i figured you guys would too but it's easier to ask than trial-and-error
09:51<squircle>XReaper: yeah... it's a long story.
09:51<XReaper>winme was when you lost realmode
09:51<hays>i bet its entertaining though
09:51<XReaper>WinME sucked so much people deny it's existence
09:51<XReaper>worse than vista
09:51<Albert>what else I can use, except putty ? I use windows
09:51<XReaper>Albert: KiTTY
09:51<XReaper>It's a PuTTY fork
09:51<XReaper>:P
09:52*XReaper looks @ time
09:54<squircle>if googling "windows 7 key" yielded the same results that "windows 98se key" did, Microsoft would have a big problem on their hands
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09:55<XReaper>squircle: two words: OEM activation
09:56<squircle>yep
09:56<XReaper>i believe win8 fixed that hole
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10:08<hays>is namecheap a decent registrar? does it even matter?
10:08<squircle>i use namecheap, haven't had any problems
10:09<@akerl>I heard godady is cool
10:10<Nivex>akerl's been brainwashed!
10:10<hays>girlfriend uses godaddy and actually hasn't had any problems so far
10:10<squircle>just give it time
10:11<hawk>Personally I have no idea if their actual services are good or bad, I just can't take them seriously
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10:25<XReaper>akerl: follow the lead of the heckman and dissapear into the masses!
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10:25<XReaper>:P
10:25<XReaper>well
10:26*XReaper slaps XReaper around a bit with the IE9 binary
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10:32*hawk slaps XReaper around a lot with the IE10 binary
10:33<XReaper>It's super ineffective!
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10:35<hawk>I wonder why that is
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10:36<XReaper>it's all square
10:36<XReaper>and light
10:37<hawk>But it has "metro" support... it ought to hit like a train!
10:39<allan_>wow XReaper you're still alive
10:39<allan_>evening all
10:39<XReaper>allan_: ofc... why wouldn't i be :)
10:39<XReaper>only 01:39
10:40<hawk>XReaper: You were just hit by a train :P
10:40<allan_>seems like you're online 24/7 alive and kickin talkin :)
10:40<XReaper>hawk: you forgot that it consumes 0 resources whilst in the background
10:40<XReaper>allan_: almost...
10:40<allan_>10:43 evening here
10:40<XReaper>:P
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10:53<Daedolon>413 Request Entity Too Large
10:53<Daedolon>is this nginx specific?
10:54<@caker>meaning will other web servers throw that? Most certainly
10:54<Daedolon>no I mean I'm trying to upload a file with a form (yes ugh)
10:54<XReaper>Daedolon: you will need to change some settings around seems like something is too large for it to be senginh
10:54<XReaper>i've had problems like that before
10:54<@caker>you need to investigate client_max_body_size and client_body_buffer_size, iirc
10:55<XReaper>that's the ones
10:55<Daedolon>nginx conf, right
10:55<Daedolon>what does it actually affcet
10:55<Daedolon>max body size?
10:55<Daedolon>affect even
10:56<XReaper>max body size of the request
10:56<Daedolon>the actual variable name makes it sound like it affects other stuff than uploads
10:56<Daedolon>so request from clients to the server, not vice versa?
10:56<XReaper>yeah, stuff client sends :)
10:56<Daedolon>now I'm thinking it might not be a good idea to raise these
10:57<Daedolon>basically if someone wants to hang my site up with requests, changing this to a higher limit would make their jobs easier?
10:58<XReaper>you could always use a push cdn for user uploads...
10:58<XReaper>but that costs $$
10:58<Daedolon>you can put it separately to server/http/location?
10:58<Daedolon>that's good
10:59<Daedolon>yeah I don't have so much data I'd need a real cdn
10:59<XReaper>yeah, push cdns can integrate into your app so they end up pushing directly
10:59<XReaper>to the cdn servers rather than your own
10:59<Daedolon>yeah
10:59<XReaper>big sites work like that
10:59<XReaper>facebook is an example
11:00<Daedolon>they have their own cdn apparently
11:00<Daedolon>no clue what's wrong with amazon
11:00<XReaper>yup
11:00<Daedolon>or the other big one, which I forget now
11:00<Daedolon>it had "a" in it, heh
11:00<XReaper>it's actually akamai
11:00<Daedolon>yeah
11:00<XReaper>facebook use akamai
11:00<Daedolon>oh
11:01<XReaper>lots of stuff uses it :)
11:01<Daedolon>yeah
11:01<Daedolon>pico command not found
11:01<Daedolon>uhh
11:01<Daedolon>I'm sure I did an alias from pico to nano
11:01<XReaper>use vim
11:02<Daedolon>wondering about the syntax
11:02<Daedolon>client_max_body_size=2m; should do I guess
11:02<Daedolon>unknown directive, eh
11:02<Daedolon>oh yeah nginx doesn't take =
11:02<XReaper>heh
11:02<XReaper>yeah
11:02<XReaper>silly :P
11:03<Daedolon>yeah
11:03<XReaper><3 nginx config spec
11:03<Daedolon>I dig
11:03<Daedolon>not used to it yet
11:03<Daedolon>still complains, though
11:03<Daedolon>hmm
11:03<Daedolon>maybe I need something else too
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11:05<Daedolon>I put client_max_body_size 4m; inside my location / for the domain
11:05<Daedolon>but it doesn't accept even a 1MB upload
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11:06<Daedolon>not sure what's up with that
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11:07<Daedolon>open to any ideas
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11:15<Daedolon>I guess it can get overwritten if it's somewhere else?
11:16<Daedolon>I don't have it anywhere else though
11:17<purrdeta>it might be a php issues?
11:17<@caker>!enter
11:17<linbot>IRC supports complete sentences. Less <CR> more content, please.
11:17<Daedolon>oh it's nginx
11:17<Daedolon>/ is not enough
11:17<Daedolon>it needs to be for the php script too
11:17<@caker>!enter
11:17<linbot>IRC supports complete sentences. Less <CR> more content, please.
11:17<Daedolon>http://serverfault.com/questions/304449/nginx-client-max-body-size-directive-does-not-work-inside-location-block
11:18<Daedolon>the answer here seems to think so
11:18<Daedolon>/ doesn't cover subdirectories apparently
11:19<Daedolon>can't seem to figure out the correct nginx syntax though
11:20<Daedolon>I guess I'll just move it to server and forget about location later
11:20<Daedolon>yeah, that works
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12:20<fulcan>my ajax recovery console gets to * Starting local and then stops??
12:22<XReaper>fulcan: you doing anything wacky?
12:22<XReaper>also which distro
12:23<fulcan>I'm suspicious it is pv-grub thing.
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12:23<XReaper>aaah, sounds about right
12:23<XReaper>fulcan: is xenify distro unchecked?
12:23<Peng>It's possible it's not configured properly to work with pv-grub, yes.
12:23<XReaper>(in the profile)
12:23<@akerl>By the time you see that message, pv-grub is done, but it could totally be a "your kernel" thing
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12:24*heckman just had the strangest case of deja vu
12:24<XReaper>heckman: oh yes :)
12:24<Surz>How can I make my default apache site point to the default folder (/var/www) for all connecting IP addresses except for my own, which should point to /home/surz/public ?
12:25<XReaper>1. setting default root to /var/www is silly 2. what do you expect to gain?
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12:26<Daevien>Surz: why not just make a surz.domain.com host that serves the directory you want?
12:26<fulcan>Xenify Distro is checked with 'yes'. and all the xen modules are loaded in the kernel (the best to my knowledge based on minimal documentation).
12:26<@akerl>fulcan: It sounds like a getty issue
12:27<fulcan>Someone mentioned that before but I am no getty expert.
12:27<@akerl>New plan: become getty expert?
12:27<Surz>Daevien, i could do that... and your idea is then to deny all ip address except my own on that surz subdomain, right?
12:27<Surz>is that the only possibility?
12:27<XReaper>fulcan: disable xenify distro and maintain the inittab entry manually
12:27<Surz>i'd rather not create an extraneous subdomain if it's unnecesasry
12:27<XReaper>fulcan: pv-grub does weird things and can muck up with it checked
12:28<XReaper>you will want to boot into finnix to fix that of course
12:28<@akerl>XReaper: Wat
12:28<XReaper>akerl: i've had xenify distro undo stuff when running a pv-grub kernel before
12:29<XReaper>most annoying
12:29<@akerl>"pv-grub does weird things" <-- pv-grub just loads your kernel. If weird things are happening, your kernel is doing them
12:29<fulcan>XReaper "maintain the inittab"? my options are 'no' and 'finnix'.
12:29<XReaper>you can change the inittab line to start the getty on the right terminal
12:30<@akerl>o.O that's what xenify distro *does*
12:30<XReaper>another thing i like about systemd :/ ah wells, let everyone play catch up
12:30<Surz>noone?
12:30<XReaper>Surz: it's the best solution
12:31<XReaper>Surz: and if you are especially paranoid, put it behind ssh or ovpn
12:32<Surz>ok thx, i'll just do this subdomain
12:32<XReaper>akerl: yeah, i just remember having issues with it reverting back to tty0 for some stupid reason
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12:45<Daevien>suryour ip probably changes, i'd recommend locking it down to a ragne but also using .htaccess to put a password on it
12:46<pingUone>XReaper here is my inittab. line 39 was already set, is that what you are refering too? http://bpaste.net/show/50747/
12:47<+heckman>Are you passing the right kernel stuffs to your kernel at the command-line?
12:47<XReaper>pingUone: aah, there is no hvc0 entry
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12:50<pingUone>hvc0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 hvc0
12:50<pingUone>xvc0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 xvc0
12:50<pingUone>?
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12:51<XReaper>that hvc0 sounds about right
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12:52<pingUone>and set Xenify Distro to no and viola?
12:52<XReaper>should work :)
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12:54<pingUone>drum roll in the background
12:54<pingUone>crowd is screaming
12:54<pingUone>man down on the field... :( INIT: Id "hvc0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
12:54<XReaper>hmm
12:56<XReaper>h0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 hvc0 linux <-- taken from one of my systems
12:57<XReaper>are you passing console=hvc0 as an option to the kernel in the grub config?
12:58<pingUone>XReaper grub isn't even installed. This is a slacker pv-grub configuration.
12:58<@akerl>-.-
12:58<XReaper>pingUone: yeah, in the grub config
12:58<XReaper>your /boot/menu.lst
12:59<XReaper>you can pass arguemts to the kernel
13:00<pingUone>XReaper no sir, no console=hvc0 in menu.lst. put it on a new line or inline with the kernel config?
13:00<XReaper>inline should be ok
13:00<pingUone>but it works now without menu.lst. your inittab entry did the trific
13:00<pingUone>trick
13:01<XReaper>oh cool :)
13:01<XReaper>the new h0 one?
13:02<pingUone>secret ingredient -> h0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 hvc0 linux
13:03<XReaper>which is what xenify distro does when it's working
13:03<XReaper>:)
13:03<XReaper>I just let systemd handle everything
13:04<pingUone>I sure am glad I got this figured out. Thank you. this has been a ongoing pain, not being able to hop into ajax remote.
13:07<pingUone>I have a second issue I have been going nuts with you may know something about. OpenVPN. Server works, a client Linux box can log in just fine and get a LAN ip. But I cannot get a windows client to work to save my life. It has it's own key and everything. Error -> server actively refused connection.
13:07<XReaper>:)
13:08<XReaper>yeah... windows is fun to get working
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13:09<pingUone>is there another client easier to work with? Will Cisco ANYConnect work on openvpn?
13:10<Daevien>i doubt it pingUone. sounds like you configured the client wrong, look at your linux config and compare
13:11<XReaper>mismatched crypto is the main killer
13:14<pingUone>I know its configured wrong but all the documentation refers to adding your config files to c:\progrm~\OpenVPN\config directory and in the new client release, the directory structure looks 'nothing' like this. so you can forget throwing the files into a default directory to just make the thing work. creating the directory does nothing. Importing the files doesn't work either (double checking crypto match now).
13:16<Daevien>server actively refuse connection sounds like you have the wrong ip / hostname and or the wrong port and or the wrong protocol (tcp or udp) in your client
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13:17<XReaper>generally i get errors cos of wrong ssl implementation
13:17<retro|blah>irccloud fail~
13:17<XReaper>irccloud is fail
13:23<purrdeta>I've never had issues with Windows OpenVPN
13:24<XReaper>use the community client and a custom con fig file
13:24<purrdeta>and my config files most certainly are in c:\Program Files\OpenVPN\config
13:25<Peng>retro|blah & XReaper: I hope you don't repeat "fail" once for every user who disconnects next time there's a major netsplit. :>
13:26<retro|blah>That seems like a lot of effort
13:26<Peng>Script it.
13:26<XReaper>Peng: irccloud is fail
13:26<retro|blah>Though yes one could ask why did we bother in the first place ;p
13:27<mwalling>Peng: i do. then i get to watch floodserv ban their asses
13:27<Peng>\o/
13:27<XReaper>i know FloodServ very well :)
13:27<XReaper>FloodServ: hi there old friend
13:28<XReaper>last i checked it was a quiet
13:28<pingUone>windows config -> http://pastie.org/5045481 server config -> http://bpaste.net/show/50754/ working linux config -> http://bpaste.net/show/50753/ error -> OpenVPNClient start client_p1203: process started and then immediatly exited: ??
13:29<pingUone>purrdeta c:\Program Files\OpenVPN\config does not exist
13:29<Daevien>Program Files (x86) maybe?
13:29<pingUone>Daevien nope
13:29<imMute>Windows Vista or Windows 7 ??
13:30<pingUone>win7
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13:30<imMute>then programs running as a non-administrator will think they have access to C:\Program Files\, but they'll silently be redirected somewhere else
13:30<pingUone>-> /config in ANY of the directory structure does not exist in any folder.
13:31<pingUone>download the latest and greatest and see for yourself. Some genius developer decided to change everything.
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13:32<pingUone>and not document anything.
13:33<Daevien>pingUone: run it as admin
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13:34<pingUone>same error running as admin
13:35<imMute>pingUone: which OpenVPN version?
13:36<pingUone>everything downloaded this week can't tell on the client
13:38<imMute>I can download 2.0 2.1 2.2 and 2.3 this week, which one did you download?
13:38<pingUone>what ever they shell out here -> http://openvpn.net/index.php?option=com_content&id=357
13:40<imMute>huh, whoever runs openvpn these days finally got around to writing a windows GUI client?
13:40<imMute>pingUone: the tutorials you're reading are assuming you're using this openvpn client: http://swupdate.openvpn.org/community/releases/openvpn-2.2.2-install.exe
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13:45<linbot>New news from forum: Postfix problem in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9453&p=54181#p54181>
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13:45<mwalling>XReaper: try it. it just might /kill/ you
13:45<XReaper>mwalling: too lazy
13:46*XReaper goes to sleep
13:46<Daevien>mwalling: i think he's scared of you
13:46<XReaper>pingUone: good luck with stuff, and awesome you fixed your kernel too
13:46<XReaper>Daevien: scared? hardly
13:46<pingUone>XReaper thank you sir!
13:47<pingUone>That one was a biggie. This openvpn is just a thorn. :/
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13:48<pingUone>imMute thanks. this version of openvpn client looks normal. They totally screwed up the new one.
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13:48<pingUone>windows is barking for a reboot
13:49<pingUone>hopefully this work and I don't have to bother you anymore. Thank you all!
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13:51<@mikegrb>lulz
13:51<purrdeta>lol I'm USING the latest and greatest... but good luck to him...
13:51<linbot>New news from forum: Deploying updates to a website in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9454&p=54182#p54182>
13:51<purrdeta>unless 2.3 is stable I guess.
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13:53<EugeneKay>imMute - the windows GUI client has been written + stable for years
13:54<EugeneKay>purrdeta - 2.3 is currently in pre-release testing, still not officially "out".
13:54<purrdeta>ahh
13:55<purrdeta>what does 2.3 add anyway
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13:55<EugeneKay>IPv6 payload & transport is the big one
13:55<purrdeta>ahh
13:55<EugeneKay>What I recommend for Windows is to create $HOME/openvpn and drop your configs in there, then use the --cd directive when invoking via Shortcut
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13:58<imMute>EugeneKay: well I'm still using the OpenVPN GUI using OpenVPN 2.0.9, so I'm a little dated.
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14:00<EugeneKay>It's the same GUI, but it's now part of the official project
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14:17<push>hey, is there an admin around i can ask a password question to? a friend of mine is having problems with his email
14:18<@qmr>what is your question?
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14:19<@qmr>(now that you are about half way through typing it out, I should probably let you know that we do not have access to any of your passwords, neither for the Linode Manager and definitely not for anything internal to your Linode)
14:19<push>well we share a server and hes paying for it, but he seems to have lost the pass and i told him to do reset password, but he says hes not receiving the email, and hes being confrontational saying i have it, so im not sure what can be done
14:19<push>i see
14:19<push>heh
14:20<@akerl>push: The usual reasons for that are either A) He's checking the wrong email or B) His filters put it in spam
14:20<push>can you check if he has logged in in the past say, 24 hours
14:20<push>or i guess thats not info im privvyd to
14:20<@qmr>password for Linode Manager or for the node? has he checked spam filters?
14:20<push>for linode manager
14:20<push>yeah i told him to check spam
14:20<@qmr>we would not release any account specific information to a third party. I would have him call or email us
14:20<@akerl>IRC isn't an official support channel, but if he sends an email to support@linode.com with full name / address / last 6 of CC we can help him out
14:21<push>ok thanks, ill tell him
14:21<Yaakov>LINODE HAS THE PASSWORD TO MY HEART
14:21<@akerl>hunter2
14:21<+heckman>Yaakov: <3
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15:31<Cromulent>so PCI DSS compliance is a PITA - most of it is pretty straightforward and standard for a hardened server except for two restrictions - restricted physical access and network isolation, both of which are impossible with a VPS or even a rented dedicated server - the only way I can see of conforming to those is to have a colo server and private quarter rack
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15:31<Cromulent>and I'm positive that most small ecommerce sites that take credit card details directly on their web pages do not colo their own equipment
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15:32<@heckman>Cromulent: uh, what? How are they not possible in an environment like ours?
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15:32<@heckman>Physical access is restricted.
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15:33<Cromulent>heckman: Linode employees have physical access so not restricted on a business need basis and the network is shared so you can't isolate the server (since their are other nodes on the hardware and I doubt Xen is considered good enough in terms of isolation as security issues in it could concievably lead to the possibility of other customers gaining access to your instance)
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15:34<seanh-ansca>Cromulent: which section are you worried about?
15:34<squircle>Cromulent: this may be relevant: http://serverfault.com/q/349843/33709
15:35<seanh-ansca>saq d would be hard on a vps, but a and c are a bit easier
15:35<seanh-ansca>assuming you're in the lower levels of it anyway
15:36<Cromulent>seanh-ansca: as far as I can tell from the documents you need to comply with SAQ D if you use PayPal website payments pro as you directly handle and transmit credit card details yourself - or am I misunderstanding something?
15:37<seanh-ansca>Cromulent: c should be enough iirc
15:37<brennannovak>Can anyone steer me towards docs or a util that I can use to debug why my LAMP site won't connect / resolve from cURL or browser, but the A Record is properly pointing to my Linode, and all host files seem to be in order?
15:38<@akerl>brennannovak: What site?
15:38<Cromulent>seanh-ansca: but SAQ D is the only one which mentions custom coded applications which mine is
15:38<brennannovak>akerl: url is http://artisans.trackersearth.com
15:38<@akerl>brennannovak: Is your web server running?
15:39<brennannovak>akerl: heh, yes. I rechecked all the apache things sites-available a2ensite and restarted, yes it's running
15:39<@akerl>brennannovak: Pastebin 'netstat -lpn' and 'apache2ctl -S' ??
15:41<brennannovak>akerl: wait what does that mean- with the Pastebin at the start?
15:41<@akerl>"Put the output of those commands on a pastebin"?
15:41<brennannovak>ok
15:43<brennannovak>akerl: http://pastebin.com/pND9SxcM and https://gist.github.com/1be56044c1c1f6914d00
15:43<linbot>New news from forum: Deploying updates to a website in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9454&p=54184#p54184>
15:44<@akerl>brennannovak: See the problem?
15:45<seanh-ansca>Cromulent: imho you'd still be in c unless you're storing way more stuff than you should. https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/pci_dss_SAQ_Instr_Guide_v2.1.pdf
15:45<brennannovak>akerl: no, not quite, sorry- learning :/
15:45<@akerl>A) your web server isn't running, B) your VirtualHost line for that site should be *:80
15:49<brennannovak>What the?! When I restarted Apache it says [fail] in the far right- didn't see that. But it doesn't say any error about what's wrong. How do I debug that failure to start?
15:50<@akerl>Check your logs?
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15:50<brennannovak>K
15:50<Cromulent>seanh-ansca: hmm - yeah that was the document I used
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15:51<brennannovak>akerl: nadda, only a few favicons not found in error.log
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16:02<storrgie>I've never used mongodb, I have a friend who is hosting a site and he asked me to help out. While I was waiting I did a quick portscan to see what kind of stuff he had running and I noticed mongodb and mongodb console... does anyone have any experience hosting a mongodb server here?
16:02<storrgie>I'm used to locking mysql up behind my firewall and only allowing local access.... not access from anywhere
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16:16<brennannovak>akerl: ack, got it. thanks for helping me through that crucial step :)
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17:41<@akerl>3.6.2_1 \o/
17:46<staticsafe>:o
17:47<auraka>staticsafe: your words inspire me
17:47*staticsafe bows
17:48<ghosticus>:o
17:49<auraka>ghosticus: geezus...quit talking
17:49<ghosticus>you got it
17:51<staticsafe>man, lkml.org is being slow
17:52<@akerl>staticsafe: What's in the new kernel is irrelevant. What matters is that your version number is higher than your friends'
17:52<staticsafe>heh
17:54<staticsafe>http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1210.1/03202.html
17:54<mwalling>Linux youtoo 3.5.2-linode45 #1 SMP Wed Aug 15 14:10:55 EDT 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
17:54<mwalling>old kernel is old?
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19:01<allan_>good morning.im locking down my box.how to set ssh to ListenAddress if my ip is dynamic?when i restart my pc, my ip change again..
19:03<Kyh_>allan_: your linode IP doesn't change (unless you move datacentres)
19:04<allan_>Kyh_ hi. i mean, i want my linode to listen to my other isp
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19:05<Kyh_>What?
19:05<allan_>Kyh_ i want linodeto listen to my ip e.g 12.34.3.3
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19:05<Kyh_>You mean your other IP?
19:05<Kyh_>By default, sshd will listen on all interfaces
19:06<HoopyCat>ListenAddress tells it to listen *on* an IP, not *for* an IP
19:06<allan_>my linode ssh ip is this xxx.xxx.xxx.xx and i want linode to just accept my dynamic ips at work
19:06<Kyh_>allan_: oh, that has nothing to do with the sshd listenaddress
19:06<allan_>but the problem is my work ip change when i reboot the pc
19:06<allan_>ahhh ok thanks
19:07<Kyh_>unless you firewall off ssh on your linode, you'll be able to connect to from anywhere
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19:07<HoopyCat>look at the Match configuration directive... as long as you can nail the source IP address down to some CIDR block or another, you're good
19:09*HoopyCat senses an unopened beer
19:10<allan_>this is my iptablessetup.sh now http://codepad.org/4YuUoV93 .. question, how to disable my other iptables in /etc/sysconfig/iptables?because for me, i think there's redundancy here if i run sh iptablessetup.sh
19:11<allan_>if i run sh iptablessetup.sh, does the /etc/sysconfig/iptables rules will run also after i reboot the box?
19:11<allan_>because there's rules also there in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but i dont want to use it.i like to use whats in my iptablessetup.sh
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19:23<Kyh_>allan_: add "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" to your rules
19:23<Kyh_>allan_: I don't know how sysconfig/iptables is set, you'll probably need to check the centos docs for that
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19:25<allan_>Kyh_: i dont want to use port 22
19:25<Kyh_>allan_: why not?
19:25<allan_>i have my own port
19:25<Kyh_>...
19:25<Kyh_>why?
19:25<allan_>10022
19:25<Kyh_>!sshport
19:25<Kyh_>linbot needs that alias :P
19:25<allan_>im locking down my box
19:26<squircle>...
19:26<staticsafe>"Katana: Groping people at airports = changing SSH port"
19:26<staticsafe>^ relevant
19:26<Kyh_>allan_: ... you do realise if someone gets in as a user, they can kill sshd and restart a trojan one on that port and capture everything you do via it.
19:26<allan_>to listen ssh 10022, 443,53,80 and 8080 only.not sure if wordpress and mediawiki has its own ports outbound or incoming
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19:27*rnowak deaths
19:27*staticsafe revives rnowak as a zombie
19:27<Kyh_>allan_: and anyone doing a port scan on your box can find your sshd port.
19:27<allan_>Kyh_:i dont want to add user.this is my final setup.root and me only.
19:27<Kyh_>and it makes you less secure
19:27<allan_>so port 22 is better?
19:27<rnowak>yes
19:27<allan_>ok then
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19:27<allan_>let the port 22 begin
19:27<Kyh_>If you want to go all hardcore, setup SPA
19:28<rnowak>if you do not understand why you're doing something yourself, don't do it
19:28<Kyh_>http://www.cipherdyne.org/fwknop/
19:28<rnowak>fwknop++
19:28<Kyh_>you drop all port 22 traffic unless you've done the port knock, which will work from any IP where you have the port knocking client
19:28<allan_>thanks for the advice guys :) i should not listen to google tutorials
19:28<rnowak>akerl: we've lots of people using it now, time to use that backdoor we added
19:28<rnowak>wrong window
19:28<Kyh_>rnowak: lulz
19:28<allan_>hehe rnowak
19:34<allan_>Kyh_ how about higher than this ports 49124
19:35<Kyh_>allan_: no, you obviously don't understand why moving the default is a bad idea.
19:35<allan_>this is my testing machine php+mysql+apache+nginx to listen to 8080,mediawiki,my blog,Cakephp 2.0 running in nginx and etc
19:35<allan_>Kyh_: ok ill stay in port 22
19:36<allan_>ill just use certificate i guess with 4096mb certificate
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19:41<rnowak>4096 millibit certificates are probably not that secure
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19:55<HoopyCat>listening on port > 1024 also means that *anything* can listen on that port, not just stuff running as root. e.g. some random php script
19:56<HoopyCat>also, you end up battling with stupid firewalls that don't comprehend long-lived TCP connections on ports other than 22
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20:07<allan_>when i edit my iptablessetup.sh http://codepad.org/B8UPYntL then i service iptables restart, i get this error "iptables: Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: security raw nat[FAILED]filter" ..this is my /etc/ssh/sshd_config http://codepad.org/F0reB0RW i just copy the area that i edit "22" port. thanks
20:08<allan_>now when i test ssh to port 22, i cannot cannot connect.good thing i didnt logout my 1st ssh putty.
20:09<allan_>noted HoopyCat, thanks
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20:09<rnowak>uhm did you copy your configuration file into init.d or what?
20:10<HoopyCat>are you running centos?
20:10<allan_>i didnt copy
20:10<allan_>Centos 6.3
20:10<HoopyCat>yeah, centos is broken and they won't fix it. ignore the error
20:10<allan_>i just touch/edit iptablessetup.sh and /etc/ssh/sshd_config to port 22
20:10<rnowak>!debian
20:10<linbot>Today is Debian Appreciation Day! \o/
20:11<allan_>HoopyCat: for real? :(
20:12<allan_>rnowak: i didnt copy. i just touch/edit iptablessetup.sh and /etc/ssh/sshd_config to port 22
20:12<HoopyCat>try pastebinning the output of "iptables -L -n -v" and "netstat -ntl"
20:13<allan_>HoopyCat: http://codepad.org/4xPmRF1i3
20:13<allan_>HoopyCat: http://codepad.org/4xPmRF1i corrected
20:13<allan_>for netstat http://codepad.org/o99l2mXS
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20:14<HoopyCat>allan_: service sshd restart; you're still listening on port 10022
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20:14<allan_>yeah
20:14<allan_>hmmm
20:14<allan_>reboot the box? but im afraid i cannot connect now to 10022 even 22.but i change 100 to 22
20:15<HoopyCat>allan_: your firewall is blocking stuff to port 10022, your sshd is not listening on port 22. service sshd restart
20:15<allan_>ah perfect
20:15<allan_>hehehe it works now
20:15<allan_>thank you :)
20:15<gazay_>Hello, I trying to boot my rails rumble server with ubuntu 12.04 x64, but there always error: '• Unable to boot 64-bit on this host. Please open a support ticket.'
20:15<HoopyCat>allan_: see also lish, should things have gone bad :-)
20:15<HoopyCat>!lish
20:15<linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/using-lish-the-linode-shell
20:16<gazay_>is there some constraints?
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20:16<HoopyCat>gazay_: oi. did you open a support ticket?
20:16<allan_>HoopyCat: thats cool thanks :) but need to focus first in locking down my firewall before going to that.need to finish first mediawiki
20:17<HoopyCat>gazay_: most folks run 32-bit and don't run into it, but there seem to be a few hosts out there that don't behave with 64-bit kernels. should be an easy fix.
20:17<HoopyCat>allan_: lish will let you save your butt when you lock down your firewall too far
20:18<allan_>HoopyCat: im going to upload my piece of gazillion pictures taken from different beaches and places here in davao.upload some videos perhaps.so that i can have copies whenever my usb fail.this is my 2nd usb.my 1st usb fail before
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20:18<allan_>ok checking lish
20:20<HoopyCat>allan_: rule 1 of data: any data worth keeping is worth storing in two geographically-distinct and independent places. :-) rsync will probably be useful for you, both with the initial upload and keeping stuff uploaded going forward, if you haven't used it lately
20:20<gazay_>thank you, I left ticket
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20:22<allan_>im loving centos :) HoopyCat
20:23<allan_>ill try debian next week too .ill setup php+apache+nginx to listen 8080, wordpress, mediawiki
20:23<retro|blah>>:O >:O >:O
20:24<HoopyCat><--- not the world's biggest centos fan :-)
20:24<ghosticus>^ not the biggest centos fan
20:25<HoopyCat>not the biggest php fan either, but that's getting off-topic again, haha
20:25<allan_>HoopyCat do you have wordpress or anything in your site?i use wordpress
20:25<allan_>ill appreciate it if we could link our blogs or site
20:27<allan_>i will post also my errors and solutions in centos
20:27<HoopyCat>allan_: i have a few wordpress installs out there... People Who Write Content seem to like the interface, so i'm not one to argue too heavily with 'em :-)
20:27<allan_>i use facebook when i encounter problem then i post also the solution
20:28<HoopyCat>alas, i'm not the content/front-end/linking-to-stuff guy :-)
20:28<Peng>HoopyCat: Why bother arguing before MURDER?
20:28<HoopyCat>Peng: you know how hard it is to find people who will write stuff for money?
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20:29<allan_>HoopyCat: you need a writer?i know some people here
20:29<Peng>HoopyCat: You know how hard it is to find organs for sale?
20:29<allan_>heh
20:30<HoopyCat>i actually don't know... again, i am merely humble bit-pusher
20:30<HoopyCat>it's not even my real job any more
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20:32<allan_>HoopyCat whats your website dude?
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20:34<HoopyCat>allan_: my own personal one? hoopycat.com.
20:34<linbot>New news from forum: Help with setting up Citadel (Debian 6 Squeeze) in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9447&p=54190#p54190>
20:35<Peng>What the hell? Blinky cursor?
20:35<crankharder>what happens when i click the 'select' buttons on the clone tab?
20:36<Peng><script type="text/javascript" src="/sauce/starcursor.js"></script>
20:36<Peng>Also, "<HTML>"! MURDER
20:36<ghosticus>BURN HIm
20:37<Peng>I was hoping HoopyCat's website would be, you know, AngelFirey. Then I saw it was plain white and was disappointed that it wasn't. Then...starcursor.js!
20:37<allan_>HoopyCat: nice site ryan
20:37<allan_>bbl breakfast.wow its kinda late
20:38<HoopyCat>Peng: i coded the HTML by hand some years ago. i'm not a designer
20:38<Peng>HoopyCat: <3
20:40<HoopyCat>allan_: nod, it links to a few others; rocwiki.org is probably the "best known" site i am publicly known for operating
20:40<EugeneKay>It's a cat, in a hoop.
20:40<Peng>HoopyCat also operates nsa.gov, but isn't allowed to tell you that.
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21:08<orudie>so can I get a free linode ?
21:08<allan_>new logo of starbucks. i really like it http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/10/lkkvl.jpg
21:09<orudie>caker, hello again friend. Free linode for me? yes / no / maybe ?
21:09<Peng>orudie: Refer someone
21:09<orudie>caker, hook-a-nigghaaa-up yo :)
21:09<orudie>Peng, I have in the past
21:10<@mikegrb>lulz
21:10<orudie>I got a business to run off a linode at my previous job lol
21:10<orudie>I should deffinetly get a free linode for such a referral
21:11<@mikegrb>lulz
21:11<orudie>but no one cares lol
21:11<rnowak>are you drunk?
21:11<orudie>are you ?
21:12<EugeneKay>I'm not. It sucks.
21:13<orudie>EugeneKay, rnowak thinks its weired to be drunk on a Friday night :)
21:13<rnowak>no, what I think though, is that it is rather pathetic being a drunkard on irc
21:14<EugeneKay>Being on IRC while drunk is OK though
21:14<orudie>rnowak, go get yourself a drink and relax. No need to be so negative.
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21:26<monotreme>fremont down
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21:26<archon810>Fremont down?
21:26<monotreme>two hosts there, neither pings back
21:26<archon810>I got 4
21:26<monotreme>back now
21:27<archon810>yeah same
21:27<archon810>I hope this doesn't turn into a full outage
21:27<archon810>not on a Friday night
21:27<EugeneKay>That's not down
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21:28<EugeneKay>Down is when this room swells to 500 users, half of them screaming "WHY CANT I GET MY NODES"
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21:28<monotreme>btw any connection between Linode and node.JS?
21:29-!-shachaf_ is now known as slbkbs
21:29<EugeneKay>Nope.
21:30<amitz>there may be a conection between linode and pastry
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21:30<amitz>or viking
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21:43<HoopyCat>rocwiki.org is hosted on a linode, and the business template we use to this day was originally created by the same guy who created node.js: https://rocwiki.org/Business_Template?action=diff&version2=1&version1=0
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21:43<HoopyCat>is that a tenacious-enough connection, or should i dig further?
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21:50<Farhan>Are there any promotional codes currently available?
21:50<Farhan>Thinking about jumping in.
21:50<EugeneKay>No.
21:50<@akerl>42
21:50<Farhan>:-(
21:51<HoopyCat>Farhan: probably not; they're rare, and when they exist, they're usually single-use codes
21:54<Farhan>ahh, makes sense
21:54<@Praefectus>you can get codes from us at conferences we go to
21:57<Farhan>Why is choosing a 32-bit OS better than a 64-bit?
21:57<EugeneKay>!32or64
21:57<HoopyCat>Praefectus: often attached to a t-shirt, if i recall correctly :-)
21:57<linbot>32-bit uses less memory; use it unless you have a specific need for x86_64 extensions or to scale past 3GB per-process
21:57<Farhan>and, if I get a node somewhere, can I destroy it and re-create it?
21:57<@Praefectus>HoopyCat: yessuh
21:57<EugeneKay>You can Rebuild your Lindoe at any time
21:57<HoopyCat>Farhan: all other things being equal, fat addresses use more RAM
21:58<Farhan>fair enough
21:58<Farhan>well, i finally cracked and am getting it
21:58<Farhan>first time buying a server
21:59<EugeneKay>Good choice.
22:00<Farhan>ya'll are jerks...offering such a great service and all...
22:00<Farhan>(jerk reference is sarcastic :-)
22:00<HoopyCat>stubbing your toe on a table leg: bad choice
22:00<HoopyCat>getting a linode: good choice
22:00<Farhan>I believe it was good idea, bad idea
22:02<Farhan>so, I just created a node, Ubuntu 12.04
22:02<Farhan>How do I power it on?
22:02<Farhan>and log in?
22:02<EugeneKay>There's a "Boot" button
22:02<@Praefectus>Farhan: http://library.linode.com/getting-started
22:02<Farhan>oh, its a button, not text
22:02<Farhan>my bad
22:05<Farhan>oh, IPv6 is a /64? didn't realize
22:05<EugeneKay>By default you get one IP in a /64 subnet
22:05<Farhan>just one? why not the entire /64?
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22:05<EugeneKay>You can request a 4,096 address pool that is "on link" as well as up to a /56 of addresses which are routed to an on-link IP
22:05<EugeneKay>Via ticket
22:06<Farhan>ahh, okay. DO you work for them?
22:06<@Praefectus>you can get a /64 as well
22:06<EugeneKay>Nope.
22:06<EugeneKay>!ops
22:06<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/
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22:06<@akerl>EugeneKay: Default is /64
22:07<EugeneKay>akerl - for the ticket allocation? I said "up to"....
22:07<@akerl>Yea, I mean that the default isn't /116
22:07<HoopyCat>you could already be a winner
22:07<EugeneKay>But you will probably still want the /116 of "onlink" addresses for doing HA magic
22:08<EugeneKay>Because that's shared among all your Linodes in a Datacenter
22:08<Farhan>i have little experience with IPv6
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22:11<Peng>Now you have the opportunity to get more :D
22:12<Farhan>true dat
22:16<Farhan>so, this might be a silly question, but how do I get xterm to send a terminal via x11 forarding?
22:16<Farhan>forwarding* ?
22:18<@mikegrb>lulz
22:18<CaveJohnson>silly? no lol
22:18<CaveJohnson>a friend of mine x11forwards gnome-terminal
22:18<CaveJohnson>so he can open new tabs
22:19<rnowak>...
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22:21<Farhan>yes, its saying the DISPLAY variable is not set
22:21<Farhan>isn't that supposed to be automatically set?
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22:24<Farhan>hm...not sure what's going on here, never experienced this problem.
22:28<chesty>maybe install the xauth package and re log in
22:28<Farhan>there it goes, thank you
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22:53<linbot>New news from forum: caught SIGTERM, shutting down? in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9456&p=54191#p54191>
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23:05<linbot>New news from forum: How to chroot a user to a particular folder of another user in Linux Networking <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9455&p=54192#p54192>
23:10<EugeneKay>Farhan - sending xterm via X11 over SSH is a bit daft. `man screen` or `man tmux` ;-)
23:12<Farhan>daft?
23:13<EugeneKay>!google daft
23:13<linbot>EugeneKay: Daft.ie : Property for Sale in Ireland, Overseas Property, Property to ...: <http://www.daft.ie/>; Daft | Define Daft at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/daft>; daft - definition of daft by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/daft>; Daft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft>; Daft - Definition (1 more message)
23:13<@akerl>Daft, punk?
23:14<rnowak>punk, why so daft?
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23:47<Byond>Hello Evry One
23:47<Byond>I need some help
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23:49<Byond>??
23:49<bdube>Byond: there is an error in the config file, around line 17
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23:50<@Praefectus>no one can help you if you dont ask your question
23:50<Byond>ok\
23:50<Byond>Ny developer chat some one
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23:51<Byond>yesterday
23:51<Byond>about liond
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23:51<Byond>Linode ftp
23:51<retro|blah>I've found that Linode and ftp don't mix.
23:51<retro|blah>!ftp
23:51<linbot>Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp
23:53<Byond>what is %43F?
23:56<allan_>good morning. centos distro 6.3..i can view www.capturedact.com but https://capturedact.com, the txt or the view of the site is dirty.the txt are on the left side and the picture of wordpress is gone...any thoughts?
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23:59<retro|blah>I notice there are a bunch of hrefs to https://173.230.157.44/ instead of say https://capturedact.com - why is this?
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