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#linode IRC Logs for 2014-02-20

---Logopened Thu Feb 20 00:00:00 2014
00:00<jed>why do we even HAVE that lever?
00:00<James_T>some dumb australian got himself arrested in north korea
00:01*James_T gives zero shits
00:01<jed>underrated disney movie, imo
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00:01<Nivex>I should watch it again. Haven't seen it in 12ish years.
00:02*James_T underrates jed
00:02<Nivex>Hence why I didn't get what Perihelion was on about. (I was referring to the original fairy tale.)
00:03<jed>THE PEASANT
00:03<jed>AT THE DINER
00:03<jed>he didn't pay his check...
00:03<James_T>THE SEX
00:04<Nivex>well, yes, the last time I watched it was at a gal's house just before we ...
00:04<linbot>New news from forum: mod_rpaf getting REMOTE_ADDR with load balancing in Web Servers and Web App Development <>
00:04<@Perihelion>llamas get you in the mood
00:04<@Perihelion>Got it
00:04*Nivex laughs
00:05<Nivex>"Winamp: It really whips the llama's ass."
00:08<Nivex>And now for something completely different:
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00:52<MR>Hello, do Linode offer money back guarantee?
00:54<m0unds>"No set up fees, pay month-to-month, 7 day money back guarantee. Free inbound data transfer."
00:54<MR>anybody there?
00:54<MR>oh great
00:54<buhman>MR: for cancellations within the first 7 days of signup, 100% of your expenditures will be reimbursed should you request it.
00:54<MR>so without any obligation right?
00:54<MR>thank you
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00:59<MR>It's showing extra charge
00:59<MR>which is prorated bill why?
01:00<Datalink>if I remember right, prorated bill means you're on an existing billing cycle and are changing services which means you would be paying for less than full billing cycle
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01:17<dcraig>something up in tokyo?
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01:17<Ikaros>They're always something up in Toyko!
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01:19<deathspawn>dcraig: i felt that too.
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01:20<buhman>dcraig: yes
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01:26<James_T>dropouts in tokyo on ipv
01:26<James_T>short ones tho
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02:05<linbot>New news from status: Tokyo Connectivity Issues <>
02:10<zifnab>suprised we didn't get any 'WHY IS TOKYO DOWN'
02:10<zifnab>also lobby-la is a spambot
02:10<zifnab>if any ops are around
02:10<zifnab>and want to murder it
02:11<James_T>zifnab: it was -very- quick
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02:26<ghosticus>get an ircop on it :/
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02:30*lakridserne waves morning
02:32<Peng>Good morning
02:32<Peng>No good morning for you, lobby-la.
02:40<praetorian>stolen, from jed
02:40<praetorian>hey ops
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02:40<praetorian>actually, tj
02:40<praetorian>or rnowak
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02:45<praetorian>dont worry.
02:45<James_T>every time i say something
02:45<James_T>i seem to be getting pm's
02:45<praetorian>an angel dies.
02:45<praetorian>akerl: wakey wakey
02:46<praetorian>actually, i like mdc
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02:47<praetorian>this is all dwfreed's fault.
02:47<dwfreed>praetorian: nou
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02:47<dwfreed>hmm, didn't PM me
02:47<James_T>it's all dwfreed's fault that ...
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02:47<praetorian>yeah im not getting it constantly
02:47<praetorian>probably certain things that trigger it or a letter of the alphabet
02:48<praetorian>the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
02:48<ghosticus>or it knows
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02:48<ghosticus>there it goes!
02:48<Peng>James_T: run!
02:50<praetorian>peng. muwahah.
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03:00<lakridserne>hah - just read that article praetorian
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03:10<lakridserne>The markings and percentages doesn't seem correct in longview.
03:10<lakridserne>The 12 % is much more than the 25 % apparently
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03:21<Peng>lakridserne: Maybe that's 25% out of 800%, and 12% out of 100%?
03:22<lakridserne>Peng: ah of course!
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03:25<James_T>lakridserne: you forgot that!
03:25<lakridserne>James_T: yes
03:26<James_T>making parmigiana
03:26*James_T puts the linode logo on it
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03:41<lakridserne>Hhow can I get CSF not to output into lish?
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04:12<newbegining>hello there
04:12<newbegining>any good penetration tools ?
04:12*James_T penetrates dcraig
04:13<James_T>newbegining: as long as you're only hitting your stuff... kali linux has some tools
04:13<newbegining>will he be able to test it for me? and give reports?
04:14<newbegining>Kali: ?
04:14<newbegining>thank you
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04:36<linbot>New news from forum: FreeBSD in General Discussion <>
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05:13<madbytes>I'm compiling ruby on my linode. It gives error : "array.c:5556: fatal error: error writing to /tmp/cc7XWMJq.s: No space left on device" I did df /tmp and its 0% used. What's wrong?
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05:15<fl0w>Does Linode have any plans for hosting a "archive storage"-service. As in, we currently have an application that stores allot of files that gets outdated each year. However, due to specific laws the data needs to be saved (and be accessed to) for X years - however in those cases I do not care about performance in that case.
05:16<pharaun>madbytes: df -i
05:16<James_T>fl0w: amazon has such a service...
05:16<madbytes>pharaun, overflow 128662 8 128654 1% /tmp
05:17<fl0w>James_T: Oh sweet. Why didn't I think of that! Thanks.
05:17<James_T>fl0w: it's expensive to get the data back out though :P
05:17<pharaun>madbytes: try #ruby they may have a better idea, i have never tried to compile ruby, it might be a compling issue
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05:17<James_T>fl0w: but only if you need all of it
05:17<madbytes>pharaun, Sure thing. Thanks ^^
05:18<fl0w>James_T: Then I'll have to start billing on retrieval on archived data ;) (and no, I can rarely foresee an event where I would need a full recover)
05:18<James_T>you'll need to read up on it
05:18<James_T>i have no idea how it works personally
05:19<fl0w>aye, many thanks for the tip either way!
05:19<James_T>your welcome
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05:42<Peng>From what I've heard, Amazon bills you for a month based on your peak download Mbps.
05:43<lakridserne>Peng: That's correct
05:43<Peng>So downloading a 10 MB file at 100 Mbps is a remarkably unwise and expensive proposition.
05:45<Woet>Peng: where did you read that?
05:45<Peng>Woet: Probably a comment on HN
05:46<Woet>last time I checked, they bill you based upon usage per GB, just like any other provider
05:46<Peng>Woet: Glacier
05:46<Woet>glacier is a low cost storage solution
05:46<Peng>Glacier is a high cost accessing-your-stored-data solution!
05:47<Woet>they only charge on GB/month stored
05:47<Woet>Glacier is designed with the expectation that retrievals are infrequent and unusual, and data will be stored for extended periods of time. You can retrieve up to 5% of your average monthly storage (pro-rated daily) for free each month. If you choose to retrieve more than this amount of data in a month, you are charged a retrieval fee starting at $0.01 per gigabyte. Learn more. In addition, there is a pro-rated charge of $0.03 per gigabyte for items deleted prior to
05:47<Woet> 90 days. Learn more.
05:47<Woet>not sure where you found the "peak download Mbps"
05:47<Woet>but that makes no sense, especially for glacier, and is not what they mention on their website
05:47<Peng>I know it makes no sense.
05:48<Woet>lakridserne: what information is your statement based on?
05:50<Peng>I'd forgotten about the 5% thing.
05:50<Woet>but even without the 5% thing
05:50<lakridserne>Hmm seems like I remembered wrong
05:50<Woet>every single AWS service charges per GB
05:50<Peng>But... how does "pro-rated daily" fit in?
05:50<Woet>not peak Mbps
05:50<lakridserne>They bill their transfer based on GB. Their storage is based on GB-month.
05:50<Woet>not sure
05:51<Woet>the only thing I know is that AWS doesn't have anything that bills you on peak download Mbps
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06:02<lakridserne>hah from Amazon S3 wiki
06:02<lakridserne>Amazon S3’s bandwidth rates are inexpensive,
06:02<Yaakov>Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
06:02<Yaakov>Serial Number: 148
06:02<Yaakov>Issue Time: 2014 Feb 20 0317 UTC
06:02<Yaakov>WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
06:02<Yaakov>Valid From: 2014 Feb 20 0320 UTC
06:02<Yaakov>Valid To: 2014 Feb 20 0350 UTC
06:02<Yaakov>IP Shock Passage Observed: 2014 Feb 20 0255 UTC
06:03<Yaakov>Irssi's "press control K to paste or control C to abort" needs to do what I *mean*, not what I *do*.
06:03<lakridserne>Yaakov: hah
06:03<lakridserne>But anyway Amazon allow you to use torrents
06:04<Yaakov>It's morning, surely it can figure out my intention.
06:04<lakridserne>with public data
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06:08<lakridserne>Yaakov: No it's lunchtime :)
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06:08<Yaakov>I am lagging you. I am only at breakfast.
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06:09<lakridserne>Other news - can't ping back and forth between 2 machines on LAN :(
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06:10<Yaakov>I am lagging about 60°.
06:10<Yaakov>And now, shower, and go to the office...
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06:15<lakridserne>Whenever I need some love, I enter dig -t TXT +short
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06:31<James_T> this is where DO stole their script from
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07:36<Colin[pi]>hi all, in the linode DNS manager I've added a new A record about 2 hours ago that's not yet showing up in the zone dump.. any ideas?
07:37<Colin[pi]>usually they appear pretty fast
07:37<pronto>someone forgot to give the DNS servers coffee this morning
07:37<Colin[pi]>so just an expected delay?
07:38<pronto>*shrugs* i have no clue
07:38<Colin[pi]>lol k
07:38<pronto>sorry :(
07:38<Colin[pi]>no problem :)
07:39<Colin[pi]>the IP it's pointing to is for a new linode.. perhaps that's an issue because it's so fresh and shiny?
07:40<pronto>*shrugs* last night it took one of my new entries into dns manager about ~2 hours to populate across main dns things
07:40<pronto>though; it took OVH like 4 hours to accept it for rdns xD ; darn slackers
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07:41<@akerl>Colin[pi]: What's the record?
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07:47<Colin[pi]>ahhh there we go, it's just appeared in the zone dump
07:47<pronto>yay :D
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11:10<yeahh>Hi, I am setting up a VPN server using OpenVPN. I am able to connect to the server successfully on Windows, but the IP address isn't changing. Does it have anything to do with the fact that I am using SSH key based authentication on the server? (i.e. root & password logins disabled)
11:11<yeahh>hmm, weird
11:12<gparent>What do you mean "my IP isn't changing"
11:12<grawity>I'll guess " still shows the ISP-assigned one"
11:12<yeahh>gparent: I am seeing my actual IP address instead of the server's when I search "my IP address" on google
11:13<yeahh>grawity: Yes, kinda
11:13<gparent>Assuming your tunnel is working, that's probably related to your routing more than SSH which is an unrelated service.
11:14<gparent>You need to use your tunnel as a default route if you wish all of your traffic to be redirected through it
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11:34<linbot>New news from forum: Stack Scripts: LAMP + WordPress in General Discussion <>
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11:41<randomuser456>issues in Fremont?
11:41<gparent>is there
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12:11<ghosticus>seems fine to me
12:11<ghosticus>oh he left
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12:21<Yaakov>I didn't leave. I am right here.
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12:24<dwfreed>Yaakov: no you're not
12:24*dwfreed waves hands
12:24<Yaakov>I'm not?
12:24<Yaakov>Uh oh.
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12:36<Q3Man>So is it possible to transfer a linode server from one account to another? Or would I have to spin up a new instance on the new account and copy the data over?
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12:39<dwfreed>Q3Man: yes, open a ticket from both accounts confirming the transfer
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12:40<dwfreed>Q3Man: if you open both tickets at the same time (if possible), you can save a round trip
12:40<Q3Man>nice.. thx!
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13:00<linbot>New news from forum: How much CPU can we really use? in General Discussion <>
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13:09<davidwebb>I know this is a strange place to ask, but I currently have a RAID5 mdadm array with four 2TB WD Reds.
13:09<gparent>Who drank the water
13:09<davidwebb>If I want to upgrade to 3 or 4TB drives, do I just replace them one by one, and wait for the RAID array to rebuild each time I put a new drive in?
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13:12<@qmr>davidwebb: sw or hw? if hw, what vendor?
13:13<davidwebb>sw with ubuntu 12.04
13:13<@qmr>I trust you already have working backups
13:13<davidwebb>should I just remove them all, and then restore from backup? I guess that woudl be quicker, over USB3
13:13<gparent>building a new raid is gonna be quicker than resyncing 4 times.
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13:14<Yaakov>Having working backups is way better than having barking hiccups.
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13:14<@qmr>who knows without testing, but my guess would be on restoring being way faster than calculating parity and rebuilding 4x
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13:14<davidwebb>That makes sense.
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13:14<bunnywabbit_>hallo folks
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13:15<davidwebb>well, i'm in no rush to do it right now, but when I'm ready to upgrade, I'll just restore from backups.
13:16<@qmr>is your nick a Bourne reference?
13:16<ghosticus>:o he's jason bourne?
13:16<davidwebb>@qmr absolutely
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13:16<gparent>I don't remember david webb :(
13:16<gparent>then again I don't remember the names of most of that movie's characters
13:16<linbot>New news from forum: will the WordPress StackScript rebuild my linode? in Web Servers and Web App Development <>
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13:17<lakridserne>pronto: Seems like it's easy to figure out what cable is for what there
13:17<@akerl>gparent: Can't tell if subtle joke or...
13:17<bunnywabbit_>back on a proper irc client :-)
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13:17<pronto>bunnywabbit_: i tested out that vim-irc client today
13:17<davidwebb>the movies have been my favorite trilogy (until the dark knight trilogy recently tied for first place), but I also recently discovered the books, and am halfway through the second book.
13:17<lakridserne>bunnywabbit_: Hello
13:17<gparent>akerl: I don't think if it was a joke I would've found it funny!
13:17<bunnywabbit_>irssi here :-)
13:17<davidwebb>The books are far and away better than the movies, which are already fantastic.
13:17<pronto>irssi \o/
13:17<bunnywabbit_>about to rebuild my server and looking at stackscripts
13:17<Yaakov>I thought it was a Mitchell and Webb mashup.
13:18<bunnywabbit_>trying to figure out which one to use and how and what it does
13:18<@akerl>bunnywabbit_: Read the source?
13:18*bunnywabbit_ wants a wordpress multi-user install
13:18<gparent>akerl: way ahead of you.
13:18<pronto>so does linode have their own datacenters?
13:18<bunnywabbit_>akerl: trying but not very fluent ;-) (e.g. can't really figure if it will rebuild the linode or if I need to rebuild it first)
13:18<bunnywabbit_> <-- this one :-)
13:19<@akerl>bunnywabbit_: You pick a stackscript when you rebuild the Linode
13:19<bunnywabbit_>right, and if I want to compare between the various wordpress stackscripts I look at the source to get an idea
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13:20<bunnywabbit_>funny, some of them I can access now and I was getting "access forbidden" before
13:21<bunnywabbit_>does anybody here have a pet wordpress install stackscript?
13:21<gparent>recent budget unlocks
13:21<gparent>they literally just released one I think, might've beena tutorial though
13:21<gparent>let me see
13:22<gparent>twitter says:
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13:22<gparent>Nots ure if that could be useful to you
13:23<bunnywabbit_>gparent: thanks, saw that one, there are a few others too but I think I'm not fluent enough in whatever they're written in to understand the differences (or fluent enough in sysadmin stuff)
13:24<gparent>perfect opportunity to learn \o/
13:24<bunnywabbit_>(last revision 4 years ago? that sounds scary)
13:24<bunnywabbit_>always up for learning, which is why I have a linode
13:24<gparent>Hm well they just tweeted it, I didn't check the date as I don't use Wordpress :P
13:24<bunnywabbit_>see look at this for example:
13:25<bunnywabbit_>seems to do a whole lot of other stuff but I fail to grasp the significance (except the wp-super-cache bit, that's my territory ;-))
13:25<bunnywabbit_>gparent: no problem, maybe it's still good, but 4 years is an eternity
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13:42<ghosticus>pronto: vim anything is a terrible idead ;)
13:42<pronto>ghosticus: D:
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14:05<m0unds>vim irc?
14:07<ghosticus>better switch to irc mode
14:07<gparent>ip over irc
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14:09<trippeh>Could we sell IRC to Facebook I wonder
14:09<gparent>only if your auth system is bad enough
14:13<ghosticus>i bet we could
14:14<ghosticus>how much do you think we'd get?
14:14<m0unds>dunno, how much hype can you generate?
14:15<gparent>if your target market is teens that do not understand software quality or usability, you can make millions.
14:15<gparent>if it's making good software, then you have to actualy work
14:15<gparent>and that's hard
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14:18<avenj>I tried work once, it was horrible
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14:55*mdc is done in scrollback land
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15:43<linbot>New news from forum: FreeBSD in General Discussion <> || How much CPU can we really use? in General Discussion <>
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16:02<EugeneKay>Well that's a new development.
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16:33<squidly> has the wrong serial for my DNS information. ns2-4 have the correct DNS info. Is there a way I can get ns1 refreshed for my domain?
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16:36<dwfreed>squidly: what is your domain name?
16:37<dwfreed>and when did you last change your DNS settings?
16:38<squidly> and ns1 is set as a slave to my dns host.
16:39<dwfreed>try sending it a NOTIFY
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16:40<dwfreed>also make sure you have your server set to notify the soa master
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16:40<dwfreed>may want to check your logs to make sure that your nameserver is sending notifies to ns1 when you make changes
16:42<squidly>dwfreed: thanks
16:43<squidly>got it transfered
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16:48<gparent>that bit me for months. I felt like such an idiot when I discovered the cause.
16:49<gparent>was sitting in front of me this whole time :(
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16:50<squidly> gparent lol. DNS is a pain at times.
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16:50<squidly>I cant use longview on a non-linode host correct?
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16:51<Nivex>You can use longview whereever you want
16:51<squidly>oh cool
16:51<+caker>squidly: incorrect. It works on any supported Linux system
16:51<@psandin>not strictly, pretty sure it won't run on a BSD toaster
16:51<squidly>Cool that's an awesome little tool.
16:53<squidly>I'm going to be checking out then. At home I run funtoo and want to check it out on a couple of my systems at home.
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17:26<xxiao>some complaints, i normally have 1GB incoming then 1GB outgoing probably once a quarter, each time I did some 'heavy' operations, my outgoing speed drops dramatically
17:27<xxiao>first time i saw that i was told it's pipe thing somewhere unrelated to linode
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17:27<ausjke>how is that so repeatable each time?
17:28<ausjke>i never saw such thing with D.O frankly, come on I only do this(git kernel clone) once a while
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17:33<linbot>New news from forum: 8192 server performs much worse than a 4096? in Performance and Tuning <>
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17:47<ghosticus>oh man!
17:47<lakridserne>sometimes the page load sometimes it doesn't
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17:48<Gika>...okay, so london was down for everybody?
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17:48<potatao>Gika: was for me
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17:48<TecnoBrat>"We do not expect any downtime during this maintenance, however a brief period of packet loss and/or increased latency may be observed."
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17:49<TecnoBrat>maintenance :P
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17:49<Gika>oh right
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17:49<Nivex>shift happens
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17:49<TecnoBrat>don't panic, picnic!
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17:49<Nivex>it's above 20C here for the first time in months. I may do just that.
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17:50<TecnoBrat>Oh, interesting. Even my nodes inside London are losing packets with eachother.
17:50<trippeh>Still not getting through on v6 tho.
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17:50<TecnoBrat>So sounds like its an internal router / switch maintenance
17:50<dwfreed>go have a bite to eat or watch a movie or something; the maintenance will be over soon enough
17:50<TecnoBrat>wasn't complaining, was just mentioning / noticing :)
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17:51<dwfreed>TecnoBrat: any traffic crossing /24s goes to /the/ routers; so if one of your Linodes is in one /24, and the other is in a different /24, you have to go through the routers
17:51<Gika>so that's the reason i was typing into screen and nothing happened...
17:51<Colonel-Rosa>London data centre just have a few minutes of downtime?
17:51-!-Irssi: Join to #linode was synced in 237 secs
17:51<dwfreed>Colonel-Rosa: scheduled maintenance
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17:51<TecnoBrat>dwfreed: ahhhhh good to know!
17:51<dwfreed>Colonel-Rosa: see
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17:52<TecnoBrat>The more you know, and all of that.
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17:52<Colonel-Rosa>dwfreed, ah, cheers. Should be keeping up to date :P
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17:53<dwfreed>TecnoBrat: provides a pretty good picture of the network topology
17:53*dwfreed unplugs rnowak one more time and plugs him back in
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17:54<JediMaster>I know there's London network maintenance, and there would be some dropped packets, but I'm getting nothing for 10+ minutes now =/
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17:54<Gika>maybe something to do with these? :)
17:54<dwfreed>JediMaster: I'm sure it's being worked on
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17:55<trippeh>Its back up for me for some minutes.
17:55<JediMaster>I'm sure it is
17:55<JediMaster>not for me
17:55<JediMaster>but we've got 30 something VMs in London
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17:57<dwfreed>JediMaster: from where to where isn't working?
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17:58<JediMaster>Sky fibre ADSL in the UK
17:58<digitalice>Are anyone else having issues with london nodes? I lost connection to mine all of a sudden. I got back in for about 5 seconds before timing out again.
17:58<JediMaster>and from our linode in the US
17:58<JediMaster>got 6 hosts down =/
17:58-!-Tea [~joe@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:385f] has joined #linode
17:58<dwfreed>JediMaster: Linode has 4 US datacenters; that's real specific :P
17:58<JediMaster>doesn't matter really
17:59<JediMaster>they're down from everywhere effectively
17:59<dwfreed>newark <-> london looks fine from here, unless you want to give me an IP of one of your London Linodes
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17:59<Jonis>there's currently issues in amsterdam
17:59<JediMaster>I'm only about 60 miles away
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18:00<JediMaster>so won't be going through amsterdam, and there's network maintenance from 1 hour ago for another hour
18:00<digitalice>Can't ping from either Norway nor Spain
18:00<dwfreed>where it's dropping suggests missing a route on Linode's end
18:00<+caker>It looks like the guys are working through some hosts that were affected by the maintenance, which, due to a bug in the network driver in the stack they're running, can be susceptible to high pps rate causing a kernel panic in dom0. We believe this is fixed in the stack they're about to get, fwiw.
18:01<+caker>If that's the case, you'll be getting a ticket momentarily.
18:01<+caker>sorry for the trouble!
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18:01<JediMaster>goes to then then stops
18:02<dwfreed>JediMaster: neither of the IPs you gave respond to arping from another Linode in London
18:02<dwfreed>caker's very likely right
18:02<dwfreed>so, wait for the emergency maintenance ticket
18:02<Yaakov>Hello, caker!
18:02<JediMaster>hey caker
18:02<gparent>caker is always right, we're just trying to determine the level of how right he is.
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18:03<JediMaster>still seeing 99% packets losses on the hop before our 'node
18:03<JediMaster>one node back now, 5 left down
18:03<dwfreed>JediMaster: that's semi-normal; most routers will ratelimit ICMP indiscriminately
18:04<JediMaster>this isn't just ICMP
18:04<JediMaster>no http, ssh, https etc
18:04<m0unds>haha, also it's usually configurable..not random :)
18:04<dwfreed>JediMaster: which IP?
18:04<dwfreed>JediMaster: that first one is still not responding to arping
18:05<dwfreed>likewise for the second
18:05<digitalice> not responding to anything
18:05<dwfreed>and the third
18:05<dwfreed>digitalice: that one is more weird; it works for me from dallas, but not newark
18:05<JediMaster>no wait, that's just come back
18:05<JediMaster>last one:
18:05<digitalice>Weird, again, doesn't work from Norway or Spain
18:06<dwfreed>JediMaster: looks fine
18:06<TecnoBrat>caker: when you say "stack" you mean software stack?
18:06<JediMaster>yeah came back
18:06<dwfreed>JediMaster: .198 no arp replies
18:06<dwfreed>TecnoBrat: yes
18:06<digitalice>Alright, it's back up now!
18:06<@caker>TecnoBrat: sorry - yes, the build on our end for things like hypervisor, dom0 kernel and drivers, etc
18:06<JediMaster>nagios gone from 400+ critical problems down to 42 =)
18:07<JediMaster>4 hosts down now
18:07<TecnoBrat>dwfreed: you guys use chef or anything to push that up? I assume you have a fairly automated procedure there
18:07<JediMaster>slowly but surely =)
18:07<rnowak>JediMaster: does it have itself on the list?
18:07<dwfreed>TecnoBrat: I no longer work at Linode, but I don't think that's something they'd share
18:07<JediMaster>rnowak, nagios? yes it does monitor itself too
18:08<@caker>it is beautifully automated, fwiw :)
18:08<TecnoBrat>oh, I thought you were still there.
18:08<rnowak>JediMaster: I meant mostly about being a problem :>
18:08<Nivex>dwfreed: you going to SCaLE since you live on that end of the world now?
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18:08<gparent>the monkeys provide great automation
18:08<TecnoBrat>caker: assumed, meaning you are pushing up new software and booting dom0's so .. waiting = working, right? :P
18:08<dwfreed>Nivex: yep, plane leaves in 4ish hours
18:08<Nivex>dwfreed: enjoy!
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18:08<dwfreed>Nivex: any messages you want me to give GTswagger while I'm there?
18:09<Nivex>nothing specific. the usual level of grief will suffice :)
18:09<@mikegrb>mmm cake
18:09<gparent>tell him that cake's a lie man
18:09<digitalice> works again from Norway, Spain. Thanks a lot for fixing things so quickly.
18:09<JediMaster>3 down =)
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18:10<Nivex>I'm told there will be IPv6 across the con network. I don't imagine they'll be as brave as FOSDEM and go v6-only, but it will be good to know how things work out.
18:10<JediMaster>caker, looks like those host/nodes were rebooted then?
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18:11<@caker>JediMaster: if your nodes are rebooting, it's safe to assume it was because the host kpanicked and has since received an update...
18:12<JediMaster>caker, I can see 4 open tickets about emergency maintenance from 15 min ago, so I geuss that's why
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18:14<JediMaster>caker, however, two of them say running and haven't been rebooted today
18:15<dwfreed>they might still be in the process of rebooting
18:15<dwfreed>the state in the Linode Manager is not changed when the host dies
18:15<JediMaster>ah right
18:15<JediMaster>seems to only be 2 left now
18:16<array>s/dies/becomes unresponsive/
18:16<Alan_>well that was fun
18:16<array>death would imply it won't be coming back
18:16<dwfreed>array: :P
18:17<array>unless it's hindu, then it'll possibly come back as a juniper switch.
18:17<TecnoBrat>hes not wrong!
18:17<dwfreed>array: hehe
18:17<array>TecnoBrat: juniper is the new cisco. haven't you heard? get with the times!
18:17<JediMaster>what's wrong with juniper then?
18:18<Alan_>I shouldn't really complain
18:18<Alan_>in fact, I won't
18:18<Alan_>this is literally the only Linode downtime I've had since December 2008
18:19<JediMaster>we've had about... 10 minutes maybe for the last 4 years or so
18:19<dwfreed>array: juniper is pretty awesome; their whole way of handling configuration is so nice
18:19<Navi>Man, you guys are getting super slow.
18:19<m0unds>yep, contextual configs ftw
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18:19<raistlinthewiz>is there a problem with london421?
18:19<m0unds>good hardware too
18:19<raistlinthewiz>i can't access my vps on it
18:19<Navi>My server stopped responding like, half an hour ago, only got a ticket about ten minutes ago.
18:19<raistlinthewiz>and can't shutdown it too
18:20<Navi>I want my sub-minute tickets.
18:20<m0unds>qfx is quirky, but they'll sort it out
18:20<dwfreed>raistlinthewiz: check for a support ticket
18:20<Navi>I want days to get back to when my IPv6 pool took 47 seconds.
18:20<dwfreed>Navi: :P
18:20<JediMaster>bloody zabbix & nagios going ape on my phone, then just got over 400 emails from zabbix lol
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18:20<Navi>You SUCK. So badly.
18:20<TecnoBrat>Navi: you are the slow one. The first part was network maintenance (planned) .. and the 2nd part was an dom0 host problem :P <3
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18:21<JediMaster>caker, is the maintenance side of things over now?
18:21<Navi>TecnoBrat: I never had notification about the maintenance.
18:21<Navi>Is this a real dom0 host problem?
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18:21<JediMaster>navi: we did, see:
18:22<Navi>Do I need to jab my Citrix kernel dev friend and yell at him?
18:22<silverblade>Kinda strange timing if its net maintenance, my Ventrilo server (different provider) is lagging like crazy for me, then my Linode stopped responding for me and several others, thought it was just my ISP at first xD
18:22<Peng>Navi: Apparently it's fixed in a newer software.
18:22<Navi>I bet he patched it.
18:22<TecnoBrat>Navi: kernel panic thing
18:22<Navi>He told me he didn't have time to mark my Uni work last week specifically fixing kernel panic and security flaws.
18:22<Navi>In Xen dom 0.
18:22<trippeh>xennet was a little wonky for a while.
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18:23<dwfreed>trippeh: xennet is still a little wonky, just better
18:23<trippeh>Lots of fallout from that security fix a while ago.
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18:26<JediMaster>ugh, here comes the floods of client complaints as they were told no downtime =/
18:26<JediMaster>last machine rebooting now
18:28<Navi>Uh, if the manager is going to say to check the status blog, shouldn't there at least be a new article that says "Don't panic" if nothing else?
18:28<JediMaster>all our linodes are back now
18:29<JediMaster>45 min for the last one though
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18:29<dwfreed>never say "no downtime"
18:29<Navi>Sure, 's just weird to specifically have a [check our status blog] message and to never reference it on the aforementioned blog.
18:29<JediMaster>didn't, we copied/pasted what you guys had on your maintenance notice
18:29<dwfreed>better: "we don't expect any downtime, but shit happens"
18:29<JediMaster>yeah, but clients still whine
18:30<dwfreed>Navi: see the scheduled maintenace post a 1 or 2 posts down, likely
18:30<gparent>"We always expect downtime, but usually shit doesn't happen?"
18:30<JediMaster>"we lost thousands in lost revenue at a key shopping time" etc. =/
18:30<Navi>Yeah, well, there's no SLA.
18:30<Navi>Linode offers you five zeroes of SLA.
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18:31<Navi>In fact, for an extra $1/mo, they'll give you seven zeroes.
18:31<dwfreed>Navi: SLA is 42 minutes in a 30 day month
18:32<Navi>Actually, could I get a proper explanation for the weird Xen thing? My friend that works on it is genuinely interested in what went wrong there.
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18:32<EugeneKay>SLAs are usually "who will pay when shit goes south", rather than an actual prediction from a gypsy seer
18:33<EugeneKay>See also cloudflare's "2500% guarantee"
18:33<dwfreed>Navi: basically, the network drivers didn't like it when they got a crapload of packets, likely due to a small broadcast storm
18:33<Nivex>and this is why if your shit is critical, you have diversity
18:34<dwfreed>yeah, don't be racist
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18:34<Navi>Hah, fair enough.
18:36<@akerl>support: l542 is booting Linodes
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18:36<buhman>akerl: lulz
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19:03<@qmr>oh dear.
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19:04<ausjke>outgoing network is 100Kbps from CA ?
19:04<m0unds>yea, bank of modems
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19:06<ausjke>seriously, what's going on? I cloned linux twice(first time stuck at 80%, hang there), now it's the same slow speed, 100Kbps, at 31%, though not yet 'hang'
19:06<ausjke>had to kill the first clone
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19:11<James_T>100kbps sounds normal (not)
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19:15<@qmr>ausjke: from CA to where? more details please
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19:28<ausjke>qmr: to TX, now it's 400kbps
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19:31<linbot>New news from status: COMPLETE - Network Maintenance in London: February 20, 2014 <>
19:32<@akerl>ausjke: You're git cloning?
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19:34<ausjke>akerl: yes
19:34<ausjke>now it's finally done, but was really slow
19:34<ausjke>cloning a small(100M) git is fairly fast though
19:35<@akerl>I wouldn't exactly recommend git clone as an accurate measure of network bandwidth. there's quite a bit of overhead involved
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19:39*Peng gets about 100 Mbps from Fremont to Dallas
19:42*James_T gets about 10gbit from Peng's bum to mars
19:42<m0unds>James_T: how dare you
19:43<m0unds>that's vulgar, even for irc
19:43<ghosticus>shitlist him!
19:43<m0unds>it's a good thing you're on ipv6 or i would
19:43*m0unds coughs
19:43<ghosticus>m0unds has a special respect for ipv6 users
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19:44<m0unds>i sure do. saving the internet, one irc user at a time.
19:45<m0unds>ugh, that hurt my head. i'm sorry.
19:46<James_T>london speedtest is dead
19:46<James_T>getting 2-3MB/s from dallas
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19:54<linbot>New news from forum: 8192 server performs much worse than a 4096? in Performance and Tuning <>
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20:03<kyhwana>wonder what the steal % is on both of those
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20:04<Peng>I didn't do it
20:05<Woet>> using a VPS
20:05<Woet>> expecting solid CPU performance
20:06<Q3Man>I've got a 4k with worse disk io than a 1k
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20:17<buhman>that should definitely be a support ticket
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20:29<Nivex> Launch in 3 minutes
20:30<Nivex>GPS satellite on a Delta IV
20:30<Nivex>oh, 10 minutes. Must be a hold in there somewhere.
20:31<HoopyCat>i like the little flare
20:32<Nivex>off to the left?
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20:33<HoopyCat>Nivex: yeah... the ol' "Misc. Stuff We Don't Want Hanging Around Here" flare
20:34<Nivex>I think that's burning off excess gases.
20:34<Nivex>Extended hold due to solar radiation.
20:34<HoopyCat>as an engineer, i believe venting prevents explosion
20:35<ghosticus>figuratively and literally?
20:36<HoopyCat>Nivex: according to my other monitor, the 19-minute launch window opens at 01:40 Z
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20:44<Nivex>new T0 01:59:00z
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20:45<HoopyCat>that's within the launch window :-)
20:47<Nivex>barely :)
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20:55<Nivex>GO for launch! \o/
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21:02<@qmr>go for lunch?
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21:04<Nivex>only in the eastern hemisphere
21:05<James_T>DO for lunch! \o/
21:07<Nivex>HoopyCat: *twitch*
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21:19<newbegining>thank you for the email :)
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21:32<TecnoBrat>17 mins on my ticket ... thats the longest I have ever had
21:34*dcraig "feeds the" HoopyCat
21:35<James_T>TecnoBrat: i've had an hour once during... i don't remember
21:35<James_T>a busy period
21:35<James_T>was only a minor ticket tho
21:36<ghosticus>"ugh another James_T ticket"
21:36<James_T>ghosticus: it's "ugh, another XReaper ticket"
21:37<James_T>That xreaper is an asshole
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21:37<ghosticus>i'm glad he's not here anymore
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21:38<m0unds>cool - wearing my coffee is a suitable alternative to drinking it
21:38<TecnoBrat>BTW, that wasn't a complaint ... actually .. in all honesty .. its a praise.
21:38<TecnoBrat>I've opened a LOT of tickets over the years.
21:38<TecnoBrat>Most places you are lucky if you get a reply in 24 hours.
21:38<jefffffffff>anybody else not able to connect to their linode?
21:38<kyhwana>jefffffffff: nope
21:38<kyhwana>(Be more specific)
21:38<+buhman>jefffffffff: surely *someone*; but I don't think that's really waht you meant.
21:39<m0unds>i've been trying to connect telepathically all day, but it's not working
21:39<dcraig>I can't connect to my linode, but I can connect to jeffffs
21:39<jefffffffff>mmm...okay, well I've filed the ticket, and no response, so I just though I check here
21:39<staticsafe>try a traceroute/mtr?
21:39<linbot>mtr combines traceroute and ping into one easy tool, good for finding the source of network problems. Get it from or for Windows. Make a report by running mtr -rn HOSTNAME. mtr can be run in-channel using !mtr-CITY HOSTNAME where CITY is atlanta, dallas, fremont, tokyo or newark, e.g. !mtr-newark
21:39<staticsafe>Peng: 2slow
21:39<jefffffffff>1.-- 0.0% 10 19.5 18.0 16.8 20.5 1.0 2.|-- tp-s2-c6r11.router.hinet. 0.0% 10 18.2 22.2 16.4 44.0 9.0 3.|-- 0.0% 10 22.8 24.1 17.0 36.6 6.6 4.|-- 0.0% 10 16.7 16.9 16.6 17.2 0.0 5.|-- 0.0% 10 16.7 25.8 16.7 54.0 13.3 6.|-- 0.0% 10 151.0
21:39<Peng>oops :X
21:39<+buhman>jefffffffff: did you try to connect via LISH?
21:39<kyhwana>jefffffffff: well, what did you try so far? tried ping/mtr/connecting to it via other services/tried LISH?
21:39<jefffffffff>mmm...hard to paste here
21:39<kyhwana>jefffffffff: use a pastebin
21:39<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
21:40<TecnoBrat>jefffffffff: I am having massive packetloss to Atlanta from Fremont (so probably others too) ... but yea.
21:40<jefffffffff>lish/ssh/web console all not connecting
21:40<jefffffffff>my linode in Atlanta
21:40<TecnoBrat>jefffffffff: I opened a ticket and they are looking into the packetloss, my mtr looks like yours.... but if I was you, I'd open a ticket as well.
21:40<dcraig>I only see packet loss to atlanta over ipv4.... ipv6 works great! :D
21:40<kyhwana>jefffffffff: try lish ssh from another lish server in a different DC?
21:41<TecnoBrat>dcraig: indeed!
21:41<jefffffffff>yes, I've opened a ticket
21:41<Peng>SSH to Atlanta over IPv6 is a bit laggy for me.
21:41<Peng>So presumably there is loss.
21:41<Peng>Though mtr ish appy.
21:41<m0unds>i'm at a loss
21:41<dcraig>the problem for me is deep within an nlayer
21:42<TecnoBrat>I used IPv6 to ssh into it :P
21:42<TecnoBrat>So I could get a reverse
21:42<Peng>or use !mtr-atlanta! :D
21:42<Peng>hint hint
21:42<staticsafe>coincidentally having nlayer route issues between two hosts (one newark linode, one arpnetworks in LA)
21:42<staticsafe>v4 only
21:42<dcraig>does it go through houston?
21:42<m0unds>houston is eating packets
21:43<Peng>Newark to LA could go through Atlanta.
21:43<staticsafe>dcraig: yes
21:43<Peng>or Houston!
21:43*buhman om nom
21:43<dcraig>texas always messes things up
21:43<m0unds>houston is one of the US' fattest cities
21:43<m0unds>nlayer's gear is eating pakkits
21:43<m0unds>it's just trying to fit in
21:43<TecnoBrat>everything is bigger in texas ... even packetloss!
21:44<Nivex>♫ Let the packets hit the floor... ♫
21:44<staticsafe> &
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21:44<TecnoBrat>those are mine .. llook the same
21:44<dcraig>is it just me, or is there a surprising amount of "network problems" lately?
21:44<staticsafe>DDoS seem to be trendier than usual
21:45<Nivex>The Internet is a very complex system. It has its moments.
21:45<TecnoBrat>the NTP thing doesn't help.
21:45<jefffffffff>I thought it's because most of our traffic is from outside US
21:45<Nivex>TecnoBrat: I was just about to say.
21:45<+buhman>staticsafe: running vulnerable ntpd doesn't help
21:45<staticsafe>not doing BCP38 doesn't help either
21:45<staticsafe>but yeah
21:45<jefffffffff>but yes, I feel that there has been quite a bit of network problem recently and I've been with linode for a few years
21:45<TecnoBrat>jefffffffff: lately its been ddos's
21:45<staticsafe>jefffffffff: are you taking a nlayer route by any chance?
21:46<TecnoBrat>and a LOT of them
21:46<Peng>buhman: Is anyone on Linode doing so?
21:46<TecnoBrat>not linode specific
21:46<jefffffffff>yes, nlayer route
21:46<+buhman>Peng: doing what
21:46<dcraig>if I'm on ubuntu 12.04 and have updated ntpd, is that a non-vulnerable version?
21:46<+buhman>dcraig: you could always monlist yourself to check
21:46<+buhman>dcraig: the so-called 'vulnerable' version merely has this enabled by default
21:46<@akerl>"vulnerable" NTP isn't the issue; if networks properly validated that they weren't letting spoofed sources out, it wouldn't be an issue
21:47<staticsafe>NTP is just another vector
21:47<dcraig>how do I monlist myself
21:47<staticsafe>like amplified DNS
21:47<+buhman>dcraig: ntpdc -c monlist your_ip
21:47<TecnoBrat>akerl: does linode?
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21:48<HoopyCat>see also
21:48<m0unds>was just gonna link that
21:48<dcraig>I suppose "timed out, nothing received" is the desired response?
21:48<@akerl>TecnoBrat: No Linode can send traffic onto our own network that doesn't match the IPs it owns
21:48<+buhman>dcraig: sounds good
21:48<m0unds>urpf ftw
21:48<+buhman>dcraig: implies your ntpd just ignored it, which is ok
21:48<@akerl>Which is even more strict than dropping bad sources at the edge, since you can't even spoof within the same network
21:48<Peng>akerl: But a Linode can certainly respond to spoofed traffic, and be used as an amplifier.
21:48<@akerl>Of course
21:49<@akerl>That's true of pretty much every internet-connected UDP service, though, given that the system being used to "amplify" has no way to (directly) tell if the sources it sees are spoofed
21:49<dcraig>is the atlanta connectivity problem fixed?
21:49<dcraig>things appear better...
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21:49<staticsafe>NTP, DNS, chargen, ain't anything new
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21:50<HoopyCat>my friendly neighborhood /24 has three results. (i'm not one of them)
21:51<staticsafe>probably their CPE
21:51<HoopyCat>linode is my friendly neighborhood
21:51<squidly>Does anyone have an openRC script to startup longview on gentoo?
21:52<@akerl>I thought gentoo was switching to systemd?
21:52<staticsafe>akerl the troll
21:52<+buhman>dcraig: if you were curious, you could deploy a opensuse 13.1 linode which has a monlisting-ntpd enabled by default
21:52<squidly>akerl: idk. My systems are not in systemd and I like openRC It works well
21:52<Nivex>gentoo is special
21:52<@akerl>But a helpful troll: in theory, saying gentoo and systemd is one of the better ways to summon dwfreed
21:52<@akerl>who, last I heard, was running Longview on Gentoo
21:53<dwfreed>akerl: why hello there
21:53<dwfreed>I actually just attached to IRC
21:53<squidly>akerl so you are a trouble maker and poke people for fun. :)
21:53<m0unds>feeling a tingle?
21:53<HoopyCat>dwfreed's ears are a-fire
21:53<@akerl>dwfreed: Hah
21:53<squidly>or are your ears ringing?
21:54<squidly>openRC longview and gentoo/funtoo. Do you have a start up script?
21:54<dwfreed>squidly: see
21:54<James_T>dwfreed: is the overlay version still broken?
21:54<dwfreed>the packages themselves are out of date, but the runscript will still work
21:55<HoopyCat>James_T: i overlaid urmom last night
21:55<James_T>HoopyCat: i overlaid your wife
21:55<squidly>dwfreed: cool thanks
21:55*Nivex moves out beyond the minimum safe distance
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21:55<Nivex>HoopyCat: Fire when ready.
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21:55<ghosticus>how boorish
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21:57<squidly>dwfreed: thanks
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21:59<staticsafe>a friend just mentioned nlayer is messed up in atl as well
21:59<James_T>HoopyCat: ouch man, it burns
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22:01<m0unds>might wanna get that checked by a doctor
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22:20<James_T>m0unds: hi, i'll be your doctor for today.
22:20<m0unds>James_T: NO
22:21<James_T>you're suffering from noitis
22:21<m0unds>am not
22:21<James_T>denial is one of the symptoms
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22:30<squidly>dwfreed: thanks a lot for the startup script
22:30<ghosticus>how long does he have to live?
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22:31<James_T>ghosticus: you decide.
22:32<squidly>HIS POWER IS OVER 9000!!
22:32<squidly>ok sorry that was bad
22:34<m0unds>you better be sorry
22:38<James_T>what is joe
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22:38<James_T>and why is it the default editor in debian
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22:44<linbot>New news from forum: 8192 server performs much worse than a 4096? in Performance and Tuning <>
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22:58<newbegining>hello there is there any guide on how to resize the filesystems? like i have plenty space on my /home/ but my / doesnt
23:00<Peng>!library resize disk
23:00<linbot>Peng: 1. Resizing a Linode - | 2. Full Disk Encryption - | 3. Disk Images and Configuration Profiles -
23:00<Peng>One of those might explain, but it's really simple.
23:00<Peng>Shut down your node, go to the manager, click on one of your disk images, enter the new size, wait.
23:01<linbot>New news from forum: 4096 server performs much worse than a 2048? in Performance and Tuning <>
23:08<linbot>New news from forum: 4096 server performs much worse than a 2048? in Performance and Tuning <>
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23:16<m0unds>woo, almost time to go home
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23:22<dcraig>got an ubuntu 9.10 system I'd like to upgrade to 12.04... are the library guides for upgrading to 10.04 and 12.04 still accurate?
23:23<dcraig>especially regarding the devtmpfs change in /etc/fstab
23:23<+buhman>heh, good luck by the way
23:24<dcraig>if it becomes too much of a pain, we'll just start fresh with a new linode
23:24<James_T>dcraig: switch to metered billing and make a new 12.04 linode
23:25<dcraig>but then the server will lose some of its charm
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23:25<m0unds>metered billing ftw
23:25<dcraig>I upgraded a personal system from 5.10 all the way up to 12.04, and I always found it to be a good learning experience
23:26<m0unds>do it up then
23:27<Peng>Heh, learning.
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23:27<m0unds>for suckers
23:27<Peng>I'm glad you learned things other than "how to bang your head on your desk"
23:27<James_T>nah he learned how to bang the desk against his head
23:27<m0unds>yeah, it's all in the grip on the desk
23:27<James_T>he needed new monitors tho
23:27<m0unds>without good grip, you'll just hurt yourself
23:28<James_T>m0unds: XD
23:28<Peng>Get an Ikea desk, and assemble it with the top part removable.
23:28<m0unds>install some convenient handles
23:28<James_T>Peng: with the screens on a wall mount!
23:28<m0unds>my desk at work weighs like 300lbs
23:29<m0unds>so i just hit my head on the desk so i don't hurt my back
23:29<James_T>Peng: the only ikea here is... 3 hours drive
23:30<m0unds>i'd have to drive to phoenix
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23:32<+buhman>dcraig: also, devtmpfs wouldn't have appeared until after ~2.6.31 or so, and the package freeze for 9.10 happened before then
23:33<+buhman>dcraig: it would make sense that you'd want to add devtmpfs later as suggested by the library when upgrading to a 10.04 kernel that would have it.
23:35<dcraig>co-admin wants to switch to debian gnu/kfreebsd for fun... thoughts?
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23:35<+buhman>find a new co-admin
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23:37<Peng>I read that as ".co domain" :(
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23:39<bocaneri>If I give out a referral code, nothing of *my* info is available to that person?
23:39<dcraig>they'll know your referral code
23:40<bocaneri>They'll be able to obtain nothing else?
23:40<+buhman>bocaneri: correct; you just quietly get account credit after their account conversion.
23:41<dcraig>maybe the referral code is the md5sum of your account number or something
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23:41<bocaneri>Which would be a massive job to extract.
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23:42<Peng>No it wouldn't.
23:43<bocaneri>If that account number is compromised, how big a deal is it to change?
23:43<Peng>bocaneri: You realize dcraig was just speculating randomly?
23:44<bocaneri>One can hope.
23:44<bocaneri>He said "or something".
23:44<Peng>Anyway, brute-forcing an MD5ed simple, sequential integer would take...milliseconds?
23:46<Nivex>or just google search it. one of the hits is likely to be something on the order of
23:48<bocaneri>This presumes account numbers are strictly numeric.
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