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#linode IRC Logs for 2014-06-19

---Logopened Thu Jun 19 00:00:09 2014
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01:09<core>IDENTIFY
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01:11<Peng>PENG
01:11<lakridserne>PONG
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01:16<dcraig>NO
01:16<lakridserne>YES
01:17<dcraig>you're pushing your luck, young lakridserne
01:21<lakridserne>What's the worst that can happen?
01:21<lakridserne>That you get mad at me?
01:21<dcraig>fish tickling
01:22<lakridserne>oh, now I'm scared
01:22<dcraig>as you should be.
01:22<ghosticus>why can't we be friends
01:22<dcraig>tickle torture is right up there with waterboarding
01:23<lakridserne>ghosticus: Because I didn't select to be friendds with dcraig!
01:23<lakridserne>s/select/choose
01:23<dcraig>:(
01:26<lakridserne>I'll need to kill a Linode later today :(
01:28<Ikaros>*sadface*
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01:29<dcraig>why can't you just let it die of natural causes
01:29<ghosticus>is lakridserne danish for linode killer?
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01:30<bob2>if tv has taught me anything, it's that "the killing" is danish for "the killing"
01:30<bob2>also "tak" means "thanks" and everyone drinks a fuckton of coffee
01:34<lakridserne>haha
01:35*lakridserne doesn't drink coffee
01:37<lakridserne>Also, bob2, if you are thinking of "The killing" as in the TV series, that is "The crime" in Danish
01:38<bob2>i think you're mistaken
01:39<lakridserne>oh, so you know the Danish language?
01:39<bob2>ja!
01:39<lakridserne>Okay. Jeg tror ikke på dig
01:39<bob2>it's like how "borgen" is a little known english word for "elaborate drama about current politics featuring a series of gently renamed parties that closely parallel real parties"
01:42<bob2>jeg er skuffet over din tvivl
01:42<lakridserne>And in Danish they just mean something else ;) - or it is the name of a TV series, but the word also mean "The castle" - and there they are hinting to Christiansborg (Christians castle), where the Danish politicians are
01:43<bob2>yeah, the palace looked much nicer on tv than in real life, unfortunately
01:43<bob2>and i didn't run into birgitte at all :(
01:43<mikegrb_>lulz
01:43<lakridserne>Lol, that is an actor :P
01:43<bob2>you and your lies
01:44<bob2>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helle_Thorning-Schmidt
01:44<bob2>I think it's a pronounciation difference
01:45<lakridserne>hah
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01:59<lakridserne>bob2: If you tell me what this song is about I believe that you can Danish - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1hjwj67nU
01:59<bob2>it's about being depressed, cold and drinking lots of coffee
01:59<bob2>duh
01:59<bob2>(did not listen)
02:00<lakridserne>wrong
02:01<bob2>what is it about?
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02:01<lakridserne>It's about someone in a Danish TV series my cousin was an actor in, who fall in love, break up, and now she sing about whether or not they could fall in love again
02:02<rnowak>05:59:54 bob2: it's about being depressed, cold and drinking lots of coffee
02:02<rnowak>pretty accurate
02:03<lakridserne>no coffee involved in the lyrics
02:03<rnowak>there's always coffee involved
02:03<lakridserne>nope
02:04<lakridserne>I don't drink coffee, and I know lots of other people who don't drink coffee
02:05<ghosticus>the mowak has awaken
02:07<lakridserne>In what class did this boy talk about the building of the Internet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSU4EuNaOn0
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02:49<SirFunk>Hi i just upgraded docker on my linode ubuntu install and now all my images and containers are gone. I think it switched to devicemapper from aufs. what can i do?
02:51<bob2>read the instructions
02:51<bob2>then pass aufs to the docker daemon
02:51<SirFunk>i did it says invalid driver
02:51<SirFunk>I also upgraded my kernel, do the newer kernels not support aufs?
02:53<bob2>you'll need to make sure you have aufs in your kernel
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04:55<ayoups>hi
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04:56<Peng>hello
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05:26<AlexC_>howdy
05:26<fl0w>I soooo messed up a deploy yesterday ..
05:27<fl0w>I’m still shaky
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05:27<fl0w>shaking*
05:27<AlexC_>Take a seat fl0w, point to on the doll where the deploy touched you
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05:29<fl0w>:/
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05:41<James>poop
05:41<James>my 1G linode is awesome
05:42<Meyer^>all linodes are awesome! :)
05:52<@rfeliciano>Yes. Let's not have Linode discrimination :)
05:52<Peng>I agree. All plans should cost $10/month. No discrimination. :D
05:55<Meyer^>Peng: I disagree. If all plans were $10/month Linode would go out of business and no more Linode for us
05:55<Meyer^>Peng: would be a sad day
05:59<Rudy->there's almost no way you can brick a Linode
05:59<Rudy->unlike other VPS providers and their cheap Xen or KVM boxen
05:59<Rudy->and if you absolutely need to you can use Finnix to at least pull your data
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06:50<aoeu>Does Linode supports DNSSEC in the $10 plan ?
06:53<HoopyCat>linode's dns manager does not support dnssec for master zones, but will work just fine if slaving
06:54<@jfred>and the plan you're using doesn't make a difference for anything in the DNS manager
06:54<@jfred>you just have to have at least one active Linode
07:01<aoeu>So I understand that Linode doesn't support DNSSEC. Am I correct ?
07:02<trippeh>aoeu: linode supports dnssec if you feed it a signed zone via axfr/ixfr
07:02<trippeh>aka slaving
07:05<aoeu>okay, thanks. This is for a future requirement, not for now.
07:06<hawk>Indeed. The dns manager and api do not support it but the nameservers do.
07:07<@qmr>every time someone says "boxen" I kill a kitten
07:10<Nightmare>Why punish the poor kittens when you could punish the people themselves :(
07:11<HoopyCat>it's a quick death, they don't feel a thing
07:12<@qmr>aoeu: if you want DNSSEC you can run your own name server and use ours as secondary masters
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07:23<shams>hello
07:23<@jfred>qmr: boxen
07:24<shams>anyone from linode here?
07:25<@jfred>!ops
07:25<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/
07:25<shams>ok :) I just had a couple of questions really. Does anyone know whether you have to keep a credit card on file/account. Or can I just hit manual payments?
07:26<@jfred>You do have to have a credit card on file, yeah
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07:32<shams>thanks
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07:35<kjotte>OT: is anyone else having problems with their HE tunnel, specifically out of Ashburn?
07:36<kjotte>ah, it's confirmed to be down
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07:49<buhman>qmr: boxen
07:50<buhman>kjotte: sucks, doesn't it
07:51<kjotte>yeah, but now I'm curious what's up
07:51<buhman>kjotte: where did you get 'confirmed' from?
07:52<kjotte>07:36 < rm> tserv13.ash1 IAshburn, VA, US IDown
07:52<kjotte>07:36 < rm> https://tunnelbroker.net/status.php
07:52<@qmr>https://tunnelbroker.net/status.php
07:52<buhman>heh
07:52<buhman>because I'm evil, I bugged their support about it: http://ix.io/d2m
07:53<buhman>I doubt anything more specific could be obtained by an outsider.
07:53<kjotte>"most likely" means they didn't bother to tell support. that doesn't give me warm fuzzies
07:53<Peng>wow, 3 down
07:54<Peng>"unplanned maintenance" \o/
07:54<kjotte>oof. it was just Ashburn 20 minutes ago
07:54<Peng>Warsaw and tserv2.fmt now
07:54<Peng>too
07:54<buhman>it would be cool if they'd let us just hop over to tserv7 in a non-painful way.
07:54<Peng>Hey, there are two in Miami now. Neat.
07:55<Peng>buhman: They can do that.
07:55<buhman>is this automated?
07:55<Peng>I dunno.
07:55<buhman>I'd hate to be that guy that's like "everything is broken, fix me in particular"
07:56<kjotte>yes, things do seem to be on fire
07:56<Peng>A few years ago, the Dallas one went down. I bugged them on the tweeter, they said there was a hardware failure and they were sending new hardware out, and a while later my tunnels were working again, routing through California.
07:56*qmr demands a refund
07:56<Peng>I don't remember what "a while" was. Could've been a few hours.
07:57<kjotte>qmr: :)
07:57<Peng>Fremot is back up.
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08:34<AlexC_>Peng: I hope Linode sort that out soon, people aren't used to it being up
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08:36<madgoya>AlexC_: :) nice one
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08:59<@qmr>-_-
08:59<Falcon>How does the preload amount work when signing up for the free trial? I want to run some benchmarks but it won't let me sign up without charging my card?
09:01<bob2>charging or taking an auth
09:01<@qmr>We no longer offer free trials.
09:02<Falcon>Oh ok. You should probably change the confirmation link and or register process to reflect that.
09:02<bob2>isn't there a $10 coupon though?
09:02<Falcon>Upon clicking "Confirm my email and create my account! »"
09:02<Falcon>I saw a sentence about a 7 day trial of service when
09:02<@qmr>Falcon: where, specifically? You can create an account for free. You cannot add a Linode for free.
09:02<@qmr>Right, that still exists. If you are not happy for any reason just let us know in the first 7 days and we will refund all charges.
09:02<Falcon>https://manager.linode.com/account/welcome
09:02<Falcon>That page
09:02<Falcon>Try Linode risk free! Try our services for one week, risk free, using our 7-day money-back guarantee. We'd be delighted if you did.
09:03<Peng>Yes, money-back guarantee.
09:03<Peng>You pay money, and then you get it back.
09:03<Falcon>Ah, yes I just read it wrong then.
09:03<Falcon>Thanks guys.
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09:04<Lerouse>you wont want your money back though Falcon ;)
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09:04<dzho>the twist: if you get your money back, you have to stop using linode
09:05<bob2>Let's port linode to kvm.
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09:10<dzho>"us"
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09:11<dzho>I figure, I'm already doing my part. I'm paying Linode for services.
09:11<dzho>If and when they want to divert a R&D portion of that to kvm I figure that's where they take over.
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09:22<dwfreed>bob2: can't tell if trolling or serious O.o
09:23<bob2>Life's a rich tapestry.
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09:27<linbot>New news from forum: Load Balancing with Floated IP in Linux Networking <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11117&p=63942#p63942>
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10:00<br4n>If I wanted to spin up a new slice, take a month to migrate everything over slowly, then cancel my old linode once its setup
10:00<br4n>it would just cost me 2x for the one month they are both running, correct?
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10:01<trippeh>or rather, days, or hours if you are on hourly billing
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10:02<br4n>right, perfect. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything :D
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10:10<dzho>"slice"
10:10<dzho>oh.
10:11<dzho>you're talking about where you are now. are they still using the slicehost brand?
10:11*dzho goes to look
10:11<jaskal>just got an email from linode offering me $50 credit to come back. good offer - except i'm already an active paying customer...
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10:18<Karrde>can I have the credit and apply it to my existing account? :D
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10:19<jaskal>i was thinking the same...
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10:56<Toye>Hi :)
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10:57<Peng>hi
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10:59<Toye>I was searching for a VPS to handle the backend of chat app i'm working on for a client. I would like to know if linode can handle this
10:59<Toye>I mean if it supports mysql database and hosting some files as well
10:59<Peng>Sure, why not?
10:59<lakridserne>sure
11:00<lakridserne>Just set a Linode up and install MySQL or MariaDB or what you want
11:00<lakridserne>as long as it can run on Linux, you can run it on Linode
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11:00<warewolf>Toye: the answer you're looking for is most likely "yes". Unless you're facebook, which the answer is "yes, but you will need a lot of Linodes"
11:01<warewolf>Toye: get a Linode, so some performance testing, and see how well your code runs. In general, a Linode is equal performance with a similarly spec'd dedicated server.
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11:03<@qmr>Toye: it "supports" it the same as any other physical or virtual server does
11:03<Toye>Okay. Thanks. Does linode have an admin control to handle something related to database installation as i'm not really good with server administration.
11:04-!-trippeh [~atomt@t-1000.tomt.net] has quit [Quit: Boot to the head.]
11:04<@qmr>Negative
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11:05<AlexC_>Toye: You just get a barebones Linux system. It's up to you to install the software you require on it. There are helpful guides on the Linode Library though (http://library.linode.com)
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11:18<Toye>Okay. Thank you for your time
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12:11<zifnab>i think i'll name my next server 'butts'
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12:17<Peng>#linode looks forward to your rDNS.
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12:21<zifnab>butts.aroundm.ypen.is
12:21<zifnab>could do
12:21<Peng>I'm not sure how butts and sexypenguins.at could be combined.
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12:30<buhman>"butts.and.sexypenguins.at"
12:30<buhman>like that?
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12:35<zifnab>hehe
12:35<zifnab>where.are.the.butts.and.sexypenguins.at
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12:41<dwfreed>drop the are
12:42<Peng>:X
12:51<zifnab>oO i approve
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12:56<corser>Hi.
12:57<corser>Does someone has seen today the centos.org page?
12:59<Meyer^>corser: You mean the Redhat related announcment?
12:59<corser>only expect that isn't an April fools joke.
12:59<Meyer^>corser: It was announced to the public 7'th of January 2014
13:00<Meyer^>corser: so it is not really anything new really
13:00<Meyer^>corser: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html
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13:11<TecnoBrat>wow, this bonsai stuff is nuts
13:15<dzho>TecnoBrat: git bonsai?
13:15<dzho>or something else?
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13:16<Agentmarine>Hey Linode, do your servers have a maximumtcpsocket limit?
13:16<Peng>whatever Linux's normal limits are
13:17<Agentmarine>well wasnt sure if they were customised to be restricted with linode as my current providers do have a cap on it to prevent over use -.-
13:17<Peng>no
13:18<Agentmarine>ok good :)
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13:23<corser>anyone with experience on a t*rd named WordPress?
13:24<corser>Rather than using the W3 cache could be wise to start thinking on page speed, OPCache and such other dirty tricks?
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13:25<corser>anymore ideas?
13:26<m0unds>yes, opcode caching works pretty well, wordpress caching via plugin works pretty well, nginx + php-fpm works pretty well
13:26<corser>actually is running over nginx, PHP-FPM, but lurers complain sometimes about slowness.....
13:26<corser>lusers. :p
13:27<corser>and in gtmetrix scores 97% in pagespeed and 95% in YSlow.
13:28<m0unds>haha
13:29<corser>Seriously thinking on sending to hell lurers and do nothing.
13:29<corser>Other than putting cloud flare between them and WP
13:31<corser>did a pass thru imageoptim to the graphic files, minified css and .js files.... Speed recipes are going low after those.
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13:37<steveElsewhere>hey team, will a nodebalancer only route to linode or could I route to a url or set of ips?
13:37<@caker>it routes to backend Linodes within the same DC.
13:37<Peng>Only Linodes in that data center.
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13:46<Meyer^>corser: It might be that the lusers triggers wp's cron
13:47<corser>ugh! Moving machines to different plans surely causes an added overhead
13:47<corser>moving from a 4096 to a 8192 for some testing.
13:48*lakridserne uses an 8192 for his clients
13:48<Meyer^>corser: You could (if you already haven't) use cron to trigger wp-cron instead
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13:50<corser>Well... Counting that are my personal machines for doing development and holding a pair of app servers is enough.
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13:53<learner>hey guys, in bash what's the difference between & and && when combining two commands?
13:54<@akerl>The main difference is that "&" doesn't combine commands
13:54<@qmr>man bash
13:54<@akerl>#yesallshells?
13:54<@rohara>#maybesomeshells
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13:55<learner>in zsh & combines?
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13:56<Peng>"combines"?
13:56<@akerl>No
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13:57<learner> ok so it's the same as bash, just says go to background?
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13:57<Peng>Why'd you ask if you know the answer?
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13:58<corser>maybe he's checking if people knows the answers. Hehehehehe
13:58<learner>i was just checking, cause i was watching this training vid on bdd, and this guy was using zsh, and he used & running spork, and i tried runinng spork on two separate command lines and i didn't need to go to background, so i thought maybe zsh is different
13:59<@qmr>define "combines". && in bash is logical AND. || is logical OR. "foo && bar" bar is only run if foo returns 0.
13:59<learner>as in he writes bundle exec spork cucumber & bundle exec spork rspec
14:00<learner>i call that combining, maybe it's the wrong lingo, i donno
14:00<@akerl>learner: It sounds like he has a typo
14:00<learner>ok, so it is supposed to be &&
14:00<learner>logical and
14:00<@qmr>"foo || bar" bar is run if foo returns non-zero. "foo ; bar" foo is executed, then bar
14:01<learner>i would run like this if i were "combining" bundle exec spork cucumber; bundle exec spork rspec, meaning run first one then run second one
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14:02<learner>i think he might be sending the first command to background so that the second one is executed along side the other one at the same time?
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14:03<Peng>You could do that, yes.
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14:03<Peng>I don't know what spork is or if it makes sense in this case.
14:03<learner>spork is like a miniserver that keeps loading cucumber, rspec etc tests upon change
14:03<learner>makes loading faster
14:04<learner>i don't use that, i use spring, which is the currently supported gem by rails 4.1
14:04<learner>but they're similar
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14:04<tests>!mtr
14:04<linbot>mtr combines traceroute and ping into one easy tool, good for finding the source of network problems. Get it from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.net/ for Windows. Make a report by running mtr -rn HOSTNAME. mtr can be run in-channel using !mtr-CITY HOSTNAME where CITY is atlanta, dallas, fremont, tokyo or newark, e.g. !mtr-newark www.linode.com.
14:05<tests>!mtr-fremont 173.230.157.82
14:05<linbot>tests: [mtr] 173.230.157.82: 2 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 0.4ms (urmom)
14:06<NickA>think that needs to be updated..
14:06<NickA>no london?
14:06<NickA>akerl: get your act together.
14:07<Peng>why akerl?
14:07<NickA>works at linode
14:07-!-csdafsd [~oftc-webi@31.219.175.91] has joined #linode
14:07<Peng>and?
14:07<Peng>Linode doesn't run the mtr things.
14:08<Peng>And I think akerl hates them.
14:08<NickA>they do run linbot and linbot doesnt mention london.
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14:10<Peng>The mtrs are user-operated.
14:10<Guest11938>On a brand new node, I have 12 network interfaces. Why so many?
14:10<Peng>community*
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14:10<Peng>Guest11938: The kernel has everything enable.d It doesn't matter.
14:10<Peng>NickA: Feel free to load up an mtr CGI script on a London node and add it to the bot.
14:10<NickA>Peng: no shit. the help dialog does not mention london. that is what i was saying should be updated.
14:12<Guest11938>Peng: so a different kernel with less stuff enabled and I'd see that gone?
14:12<Peng>Guest11938: Sure, but what's the point/
14:12<Peng>?
14:12<Guest11938>curious
14:12<Peng>NickA: I don't get what you're complaining about or who you're complaining to.
14:12<Guest11938>I'll probably end up running my own kernel anyway, not for this reason
14:13<Guest11938>investigating a return to the linode, potentially
14:13<muka>i cant connect to my server anymore but other sites/people can reach it, how do i tell if i was blocked on linodes side or if my university wlan blacklisted my linode? or can there be an other reason why i cant reach it anymore?
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14:13<Guest11938>I'm excited that they finally have a $10/mo plan; just wish there were a linode 512 plan for $5/mo
14:13<NickA>Peng: thats ok. wasnt talking to you anyway.
14:14<learner>muka, try lish, see if you can log in
14:14<warewolf>Guest11938: my first Linode was 64mb linode.
14:14<muka>http://pastebin.com/r83z0Sm2 thats my mtr, cant do the server -> my computer tr. cant login my lish, says server not found for me
14:14<@qmr>$10 is extremely cheap for what we are offering
14:14<learner>then see if restaring your iptables frees up your connection, if not, look in /var/log/syslog and grep for your ip
14:14<Peng>Can I get a 64 MB node for $0.62?
14:14<warewolf>heh
14:15<avelardi>Looks like hop after telia muka
14:15<Peng>NickA: Do you have a London node?
14:15<Guest11938>qmr: I didn't mean a discount, just comparable. I don't need 1GB, 512MB is overkill for the plan I have now.
14:15<Guest11938>I don't expect it, just wishful thinking.
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14:17<muka>@avelardi i really have no clue about traceroutes, how would one interpret that hop?
14:17<Guest11938>warewolf: what was that... like 4yr ago? how old are you man?
14:18<Guest11938>30? like... grave time man
14:18<warewolf>Guest11938: I've been a linode customer for almost 10 years.
14:18<learner>muka, can you ping any of your linode's ips?
14:18<Guest11938>warewolf: looong time. If I didn't leave ~2yr ago, I'd be at ~6yr
14:19<Guest11938>I'm excited to see how much technology will keep progressing. It seems crazy how far we've come.
14:19<warewolf>I'
14:19<warewolf>m waiting for my neural interface.
14:19<learner>warewolf, you're not related to pinocchio are you
14:19<corser>yep. Noticed the 1Gb linode.
14:20<Guest11938>http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/joke/crash.htm
14:20<avelardi>muka: get a reverse mtr from lish and post it
14:20<warewolf>learner: wat
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14:20<warewolf>learner: are you asking if I'm lieing?
14:20<muka>@learner cant ping my linodes ip, @avelardi cant log in lish
14:20<learner>so you've been with linode since 2004?
14:21<corser>what about a 8Gb linode with 2 scores less?
14:21<warewolf>learner: 2005.
14:21<corser>sometimes there's no need for 6 cores :D
14:22<corser>anyway... seems that I'll be sticking to 8Gb node
14:22<corser>have 2 cores free. what can i do with those? Bitcoin mining? J/K
14:22<warewolf>http://web.archive.org/web/20050525005515/http://www.linode.com/
14:23<learner>corser, wormhole is better than bitcoin
14:23<learner>muka, you can use lish online too, have you tried that?
14:23<learner>from your linode's dash
14:23<muka>tried it, doesnt work for me
14:24<learner>define "doesn't work"
14:24<muka>it says "website not found" when i click the ajax lish console link
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14:25<muka>okay must have been temporary issue, now it works again <.<
14:25<learner>probably routing problems on your provider's side
14:26<learner>guys who has the longest running linode here?
14:26<muka>i guess. thanks for your help anyway
14:26<learner>how long since you last rebooted your linode
14:28<Peng>Hopefully nobody's uptime is more than a week or two, given the recent CVEs.
14:29<Peng>OTOH, someone recently got migrated after like 1590 days. :D
14:29<corser>serious question. Images can be cloned across Datacenters?
14:30<corser>Let's say. I have an image in London and wanting to clone it on somewhere in USA
14:31<Peng>Yeah.
14:31<learner>CVE?
14:31<Peng>Not very fast, though. :P
14:31<jparsons>What's "fast"?
14:31<learner>what cve are we talking about Pen
14:32<learner>Peng*
14:32<corser>each day I Iike it more and more Linode!
14:32<Peng>learner: the kernel ones
14:33<learner>well i restarted last week
14:33<learner>do i need to restart again?
14:33<Peng>I don't recall. Check.
14:33<learner>where?
14:45<zifnab>wtb ksplice support
14:46<@akerl>wtb legit ksplice alternative
14:48<Eugene>ksplice isn't needed in the Butt Scale era. Just reboot everything!
14:48<ghosticus>oracle'll buy that
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14:51<toothe>pwd
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14:56<figgycity>Hi.
14:56<Peng>hi
14:56<figgycity>Do linode sell their servers in the UK as well as the US?
14:56<Peng>Yes.
14:56<figgycity>Woo! thanks!
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14:57<ghosticus>well done
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14:58<Peng>:D
14:59<Karrde>Fedora 22 will use Duke Nukem Forever instead of yum
15:00<ghosticus>i was under the impression DNF was not done yet
15:00<corser>hahahaha.
15:00<corser>WTB BFG9000 for taking care of nagging users. :p
15:01<Karrde>they just decided to release DNF 1.0.0 as the package manager for F22
15:01<Karrde>yum still available, but now called legacy
15:01<Karrde>https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/200149.html
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15:55<triptiks>is there any way to pull down a backup file for me to store locally
15:56<Eugene>Looks like dnf is a yum fork?
15:56<Eugene>And mostly maintains backwards compatibility
15:57<Eugene>And should have just been called yum4?
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16:07<Karrde>seems that way
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16:17<MotoHoss>Historical reference: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/06/19/1317227/x-window-system-turns-30-years-old
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16:36<m0unds>dnf = did not finish
16:37<dwfreed>somebody else mentioned Duke Nukem Forever
16:37<m0unds>yea, i saw that
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16:48<sirpengi>Eugene: dnf isn't a fork, i think it started with new codebase
16:48<sirpengi>but i mean, it's meant for the same purpose
16:49<Eugene>Except for the part where it isn't, according to the Fedora wiki. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF
16:49<Eugene>"DNF was forked from Yum in January 2012"
16:49<Eugene>"Make NDF/Yum4 the new default"
16:49<Eugene>DNF*
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16:53<sirpengi>Eugene: i guess you're right. looking at the dnf repo history, it does indeed come from yum
16:53<sirpengi>weird though, because when I used dnf, it was missing a lot of key yum things (like managing kernel back-versions)
16:54<sirpengi>maybe that was one of the bits they ripped out and replaced
16:54<Eugene>Likely.
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17:30<@jfred>I keep thinking Disjunctive Normal Form, heh.
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17:50<otters_>what's the default DNS TTL
17:50<@akerl>1 day
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17:56<ghosticus>24 hours
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18:08<HoopyCat>1440 minutes
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18:42<Geo111>hello I want to ask, your servers technology is OpenVz, Xen or VMware?
18:43<@qmr>Xen
18:44<James>should be anywhere from xen 4.1 to 4.4 :P
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18:45<Geo111>aha ok
18:49<Liber>will my resolv.conf reset itself everytime i reboot?
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18:49<James>dunno, depends if you've got resolv_conf installed or not
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18:50<James>usually it is a static file
18:52<bob2>yes since you're using dhcp unless you know you're not
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18:56<Liber>v4 uses dhcp, yeah. :(
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19:05<James>you can configure it to not override the file if you want
19:10<Liber>how would i do that?
19:10<bob2>what are you trying to accomplish?
19:10<Liber>well, im running a dns server locally, i want it to use itself to resolve domains.
19:11<bob2>are you sure
19:11<Liber>hm?
19:12<Liber>i have backups, too, but yes
19:14<bob2>i mean, have oyu secured your recursor already?
19:14<Liber>yes.
19:15<bob2>what os?
19:15<Liber>ubuntu
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19:18<bob2>add "dns-nameservers 127.0.01" to the eth0 block in /etc/network/interfaces
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19:18<Liber>oh right, i could do that
19:18<Liber>what about... dns-search? is that a thing, too?
19:19<bob2>yes
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19:19<Liber>will that override whatever dns stuff linode sends to its dhcp clients?
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19:20<bob2>yes
19:20<Liber>okay, great, thanks :)
19:20<bob2>i mean, i believe so, i don't use it
19:20<Liber>well, i'll find out next time i have to restart it
19:21<bob2>note: don't need to do that
19:21<Liber>oh dhclient would do it too
19:21<Liber>yeah
19:22<bob2>eh
19:22<bob2>login via lish
19:22<bob2>sudo service networking restart
19:22<Liber>is service networking restart expected not to work via non lish ssh?
19:22<bob2>?
19:23*praetorian lix bob2
19:23<Liber>is http://pastebin.com/U37k5WND expected?
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19:23<bob2>oh, upstart
19:23<bob2>nfi then
19:23<Liber>:/
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19:52<ldlework>bob2: do you work for linode?
19:53<bob2>nope
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19:54<praetorian>he works for slicehost
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19:56<bob2>pft.
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20:09<theBill>hi! I'm checking out Linode... looking for a place to run 'sendy'. Anyone know anything about that?
20:10<pronto>http://sendy.co/ ?
20:11<pronto>'via amazon ses'...wouldnt you need to use amazons' SES for that?
20:11<A-KO>sup pronto
20:11*A-KO leet
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20:11<pronto>A-KO: you should take tomorrow off work; and we shoudl go to that rum bar
20:12<theBill>Yeah. I have SES set up and running. Right now I have a couple server spots with HostGator, but they're shared servers and Sendy is worthless on there.
20:12<linbot>New news from forum: standalone postgresql in Web Servers and Web App Development <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11118&p=63943#p63943>
20:19<HoopyCat>theBill: no particular reason why it wouldn't work
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20:37<bob2>do you really want to do that yourself
20:38<bob2>instead of paying mailchimp etc
20:38<HoopyCat>a penny saved is a penny earned, bob2
20:38<HoopyCat>says so right there
20:39*James set portage to nice, now doesn't oom his 1G linode
20:39<bob2>a coffee costs 750g of pennies
20:39<@akerl>A penny saved is one more penny I can launch out of my railgun
20:40<bob2>1kg of pennies if I go to the nice place
20:40<Peng>For which you get, what, like half that mass in coffee?
20:40<James>don't railguns wreck pennies
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20:41<@akerl>Not as much as the wreck the thing the penny hits
20:41<bob2>now linode is publically listed as LINODE LEISURE GROUP LLC, akerl can afford disposable ammunition
20:43<James>heh
20:43<praetorian>LLGLLC
20:43<James>:D
20:44<James>akerl: why aren't the 1G linodes in the topic
20:44<@akerl>Because we're busy putting them on hosts
20:45<@akerl>the topic supports containers, but I'd not want to run Xen inside it
20:45<bob2>i guess the trick with taking advantage of the new $10 linode is actually migrating things off the three used-to-be-512mb linodes i'm still paying for
20:45<bob2>man, totally going to call my paas startup 'tupperware'
20:46<praetorian>will you hold parties?
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20:56<HoopyCat>James: they are. if you click on that funny http://www.linode.com/ thing there it says "$10/mo" right there
20:56<mikegrb>lulz
20:56<James>lol
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20:56<James>akerl: had many 1G linode orders?
20:57<HoopyCat>a couple people expressed interest, but seemed non-committal.
20:57<HoopyCat>qmr's next-door neighbor bought one just to be nice tho
20:57<@akerl>HoopyCat: To be fair, we should have expected that: people have been saying for years that our prices were getting dangerously low
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20:57<@akerl>We clearly went too far with the $10 plan
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20:58<zifnab>question: http://sexypenguins.at
20:58<zifnab>good or bad
20:58<@akerl>Is that a lamp?
20:58<linbot>New news from forum: Load Balancing with Floated IP in Linux Networking <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11117&p=63944#p63944>
20:58<phrozen>scrap the $10 plans and start on the next project, winode :D
20:58<zifnab>haha
20:58<HoopyCat>zifnab: somewhat lumpy
20:58<zifnab>does it fit the url though?
20:58<zifnab>or should i just photoshop a bikini onto a penguin
20:59<HoopyCat>zifnab: i think a subtle but unmistakable erec--- errrr, uhh
20:59<zifnab>haha
20:59<HoopyCat>egret! yes, a subtle but unmistakable egret would be nice
20:59<HoopyCat>for one or both, i'm not picky.
21:02<zifnab>hint: don't google image search 'sexy penguin'
21:02<zifnab>you get lots of costumes
21:03<HoopyCat>so you're saying i should google image search "sexy penguin"
21:07<James>yes
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21:11<wblew>SNAP
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21:22<zifnab>yup
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23:07<Peng>zifnab: oh god
23:07<Peng>The non-image search results are even worse.
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23:24<zifnab>Peng: yeah, i'll pass
23:24<zifnab>i guess i'll stick with my ascii penguins
23:25<zifnab>you don't realize how hard that was to create, i ended up doing it in python
23:27<m0unds>the snake
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