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#linode IRC Logs for 2015-04-02

---Logopened Thu Apr 02 00:00:16 2015
00:00<MajObviousman>dcraig: API
00:00<Nivex>a little arduino magic and the API and you're in business
00:00<Nivex>or raspi
00:01<dcraig>:D
00:01<dcraig>ty
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00:25<JamesTKirk>on the right site of a 14 hour migration
00:25<JamesTKirk>so slow
00:25<Ikaros>Oh stop complaining.
00:25<Ikaros>lol
00:25<JamesTKirk>lol
00:26<JamesTKirk>make it 13 hours
00:26<JamesTKirk>30 min to go
00:26<JamesTKirk>so far taken 12:30
00:37<+linbot>New news from forum: Postfix/Dovecot/MySQL guide in Email/SMTP Related Forum <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11705&p=66515#p66515>
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02:12<JamesTKirk>flags : fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic sep cmov pat clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm ida arat epb pln pts dtherm fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 bmi2 erms xsaveopt
02:12<JamesTKirk>:O
02:12<JamesTKirk>model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz
02:12<JamesTKirk>:( )
02:14<Peng>That's so many flags I'm not sure if your IRC line was truncated
02:14<JamesTKirk>lol
02:14<JamesTKirk>xsaveopt is the last one
02:14<JamesTKirk>hmm... sysrccd is missing some modules in its kernel. ghey
02:15<Peng>:|
02:16<JamesTKirk>missing something for my luks container
02:16<JamesTKirk>(need to change some stuff so it will boot up)
02:27<zifnab>i have this odd feeling that china is goign to get dropped from the internet
02:28<zifnab>http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/massive-denial-of-service-attack-on-github-tied-to-chinese-government/
02:28<zifnab>or at least github
02:28<zifnab>(its possible, assuming they have their own ASN, to tell their upstreams to not advertise their routes to china, if supported)
02:28<JamesTKirk>...i kept my ipv4 address?
02:29<zifnab>i'm probably a few days behind, something about surgery and spending two days pretty much comatose
02:36<nate>kinda ironic the schooling I tried to help give that guy yesterday about making sure his DB server never uses swap, and here I am trying to figure out why this mariadb keeps allocating all of swap
02:36*nate rubs head
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03:37<sanjeev>hi
03:37<sanjeev>any one here who can help me with linode setup
03:37<sanjeev>i used ubuntu to install
03:37<sanjeev>iw as able to install everything
03:37<virtual>I can try.
03:37<sanjeev>and now i can access my the site via ip address
03:37<virtual>great.
03:38<sanjeev>but i dont know what is that folder
03:38<sanjeev>so that i can upload my site in that folder and view it via IP
03:38<sanjeev>until the DNS propogates
03:38<virtual>Ah, I see. So the folder is /var/www/html on ubunutu by default. But it depends on if you've setup a virtual host (which you should).
03:38<virtual>Until DNS propogates, you can add a 'hosts' file entry on your local computer.
03:39<virtual>What is your local computer. Windows, Mac, Linux, something else?
03:39<sanjeev>mac
03:39<sanjeev>i setup everything as suggested my linode tutorial
03:39<sanjeev>for ubuntu 14
03:39<virtual>I've never added a hosts entry, but you should be able to add just this: <ip address> yourhostname
03:39<virtual>in /etc/hosts
03:41<virtual>follow the conventio of the existing (4) entries in that file.
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03:41<virtual>And once DNS is fine and fully propogated, be sure to remove the entry from there, else it might cause confusion in the future. :)
03:42<sanjeev>i got it
03:42<sanjeev>but i am still confused
03:42<sanjeev>is this the folder
03:43<sanjeev>folder /var/www/html that my ip is connecting to
03:43<sanjeev>when i open my ip i see no files there
03:43<sanjeev>i want to upload some of my files so i can access now
03:45<virtual>Did you setup a virtual host?
03:45<sanjeev>yes
03:45<sanjeev>i did
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03:45<virtual>So the DocumentRoot is where you set it to.
03:45<virtual>Where did you set it to? That's where you upload the files.
03:46<sanjeev>its setup for my domain which is still propagating
03:46<sanjeev>so i cant access the site via domain
03:46<virtual>That's not answering the question. :)
03:47<virtual>Perhaps it's easier if you bpaste.net your virtualhost config
03:48<sanjeev>1 min
03:48<sanjeev>https://bpaste.net/show/6230ed19b2bc
03:50<sanjeev>ths domain is not propagated yet
03:52<virtual>ok, looking.
03:53<virtual>So this is where you upload your content: /var/www/attimei.com/public_html
03:53<virtual>fyi, it's propogated for me.
03:54<virtual>If you see the DocumentRoot in your config, that's where you set that path.
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04:16<arlen>just add another ServerAlias for the ip and it'll show
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04:17<arlen>oh he left x|
04:17<virtual>oh yeah, that would work too. :)
04:17<virtual>and I noticed he left also. Still no content last time I checked on his site.
04:18<virtual>I find it weird that people experiment online, rather than at home first.
04:19<arlen>eh I do that
04:19<virtual>There's a difference when you know how to setup a vhost. :)
04:19<arlen>:)
04:19<virtual>I should've said 'learn', rather than 'experiment' perhaps.
04:19<arlen>mostly cause I hate installing extra stuff on my system
04:19<virtual>I would worry about security if I played with stuff and I didn't know what I was doing, directly on a server.
04:20<virtual>I imagine, by default, this guy doesn't have a firewall on his server either.
04:20<virtual>(but I don't know that, of course)
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05:02*nate guesses he should really get his other linode rebuilt finally
05:02<nate>more or less paid $10 for it not even running at all the past month
05:02<James_T>nate: just got mine back online
05:02<James_T>after like... 16 hours of downtime
05:02<nate>Mine's an old Fedora 17
05:02<nate>been meaning to upgrade
05:02<James_T>lol
05:02<nate>shut it down after uh
05:02<James_T>13 hours to move my linode from fremont to newark
05:02<nate>the hell was it
05:03<nate>one of the whatever number of exploits that popped up the past couple months
05:03<nate>ghost I Think
05:04<James_T>https://ptpb.pw/w9db
05:04<James_T>look at that nate
05:04<nate>not sure what I'm looking at, looks like a linode
05:05<nate>same CPU they're currently rocking I think?
05:05<James_T>no
05:05<James_T>that was the 2680v2
05:05<James_T>afaik there are only 3? 2680v3 configs
05:05<James_T>in newark
05:06<nate>ah
05:06<James_T>http://ark.intel.com/products/81908/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2680-v3-30M-Cache-2_50-GHz
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05:06<nate>thought they rolled out v3's a bit ago
05:07<James_T>v2's pretty sure
05:07<James_T>which were the ssd node spec or something
05:08<nate>well I know all my current ones are v2 simply because they were built a good while back
05:10<James_T>yeah
05:10<James_T>was on v2's when they first came out too
05:10<James_T>AVX!
05:10<James_T>v2's with a new xen
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05:19<saurabh_>hii
05:19<saurabh_>i have a query
05:20<nate>query away
05:20<saurabh_>how much mails per hour is the limit ?
05:21<James_T>there isn't as long as they're solicited
05:21<James_T>otherwise 0
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05:32<kartheek>hello
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05:39<arlen>hi
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05:52<nate>you know the only real downside to rebuilding a linode after it being up for a long time is making sure you don't miss anything before you do the actual rebuild :P
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06:19<Amr_Alaa>Hi
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06:22<MarkQtty>hi, i have a vps with centos 6.0 and kernel 3.18.5-x86_64-linode52...
06:23<MarkQtty>it's look like that this kernel does not have ipt_owner module enabled
06:23<MarkQtty>it's there a way to add that module without change kernel?
06:29<MarkQtty>no one in chat?
06:29<AlexC_>MarkQtty: You'd need to run your own kernel if you wanted to change things like that
06:30<AlexC_>https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/
06:31<MarkQtty>ok understandable. thank you AlexC_
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07:22<Peng>MarkQtty: Are you saying that the feature isn't built into Linode's kernel, or that CentOS is upset that it's built in and not a module?
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07:23<MarkQtty>no it's fine to me
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07:23<MarkQtty>i have understand that i need to create a custom kernel
07:23<MarkQtty>and probably i will do something like that in the next days
07:23<Peng>Maybe.
07:24<MarkQtty>surely if that module was installed by default was great, but will be not a problem for me creating something custom in order to archive that
07:24<Peng>But are we sure that the kernel doesn't support it?
07:25<MarkQtty>i have tried to use an iptables rules like that:
07:26<MarkQtty>iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -m owner --gid-owner mailman -j ACCEPT
07:26<MarkQtty>but that fails because doens't find the module ipt_owner
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08:15<Ptishyn>hi there
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08:15<Peng>Hello
08:15<Ptishyn>I have a question about two linodes traffic
08:16<Ptishyn>if I purchase 2 linodes - 1 for webserver, 1 for MySQL db
08:16<Ptishyn>in which category the traffic between those 2 will be ?
08:17<Ptishyn>in other words, is the traffic between two linodes is counted as In/Out , or is it something separate?
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08:18<Peng>Ptishyn: It's free if the two nodes are in the same data center and you use IPv6 or private IPv4 addresses
08:18<Peng>Ptishyn: Over public IPv4 addresses it counts against your quota.
08:19<Ptishyn>I see, thank you. One more question - is there an option to add more disk space to a Linode?
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08:20<Peng>no
08:20<Peng>You would have to upgrade to a larger plan
08:20<Ptishyn>gotcha. Thank you!
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08:37<praetorian>use the code Peng at checkout for 10% additional on your bill
08:38<Ptishyn>10% _additional_ ? :)
08:38<praetorian>:-)
08:38<Ptishyn>10% of additional disk space or 10% of linode price ? :)
08:39<Peng>10% higher page load times!
08:40<praetorian>and price!
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08:46<akerl>10% more sarcasm
08:47<Peng>I didn't think that was possible
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08:50<praetorian>10% more creepy
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09:15<+linbot>New news from status: Scheduled Network Maintenance - Fremont <http://status.linode.com/incidents/8vh7bbr95vyl>
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09:37<+linbot>New news from docs: PocketMine Server on Debian 7 <https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/game-servers/pocketmine-server-on-debian-7>
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09:59<vpsgood>wow many people
10:01<MajObviousman>and nobody's listening
10:01<MajObviousman>it's glorious
10:01<MajObviousman>go ahead and fart. We won't hear or smell it.
10:01<akerl>That feeling when you're setting up your dotfiles and you loop a command somehow
10:01<akerl>"fork: Cannot allocate memory" whooooopsie
10:01<+linbot>New news from forum: error from repquota in General Discussion <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11710&p=66516#p66516>
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10:03<Cromulent>ooo django 1.8 has been released :)
10:03<Cromulent>only just noticed
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10:20<leo2007>how to add a node based on japan?
10:20<leo2007>all other locations are unreliable for me.
10:21<Nivex>last I heard the Tokyo datacenter is full. I do not know if that is still the case.
10:21<leo2007>I only see US&UK here.
10:22<Cromulent>probably best to send a ticket and ask for the status of tokyo
10:22<Nivex>You may be able to put in a ticket and see if they have some reserved, but you will most likely have to wait for Singapore to come online and see who moves.
10:23<leo2007>thanks, I'll do that.
10:23<@rohara>leo2007: You cannot.
10:23<leo2007>rohara: what?
10:23<Cromulent>oh well no ticket needed in that case :)
10:23<@rohara>leo2007: You cannot move to Tokyo at this time. You need to wait for Singapore if the others won't suffice.
10:23<leo2007>when is SG available?
10:23<akerl>In the future
10:24<leo2007>how helpful!
10:24<akerl>leo2007: There isn't a date
10:24<Cromulent>having been to singapore I have a hard time understanding where they actually put all their datacentres - it is tiny
10:24<@rohara>leo2007: Did you read the blog post?
10:24<@rohara>https://blog.linode.com/2015/01/16/linode-datacenter-expansion/
10:24<leo2007>no, I just signed up.
10:25<@rohara>"our team hopes to have Singapore ready for customer Linodes by the end of April."
10:25*Nivex makes mental note
10:25<Nivex>I saw y'all shipped the big honkin' router out this week. :)
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10:29<TheOfflineBay>As I underatnd linode follows US law for there services I'm curious of wetaher or not running a website such as a proxy to a torrent website or running a torrent tracker are forbidden compleatly
10:30<gparent>neither of those are against US law.
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10:30<akerl>TheOfflineBay: Probably want to talk to a lawyer
10:30<gparent>^
10:30<gparent>because the content is what's gonna cause you trouble
10:30<gparent>if it doesn't folow US law
10:30<TheOfflineBay>aha so it would be possibly allowed?
10:30<gparent>well you just said it, anything legal is allowed
10:31<akerl>Last I looked, if you're making money and it can be shown that you're complicit in contributing to commission of crimes, you're in a tricky spot
10:31<TheOfflineBay>its all grey areas :/ theres laws against linking to copyright content
10:31<TheOfflineBay>so a torrent tracker is technically linking but its not at the same time :/
10:31<TheOfflineBay>also there is no way to know if the content is copyright or not
10:32<gparent>if it's technically linking then it is linking isn't it.
10:32<akerl>It turns out that judges care more about intent than about the technical intricacies / hand waving about hashes
10:32<TheOfflineBay>well a tracker gives a info hash and sends back some ip addresses
10:32<TheOfflineBay>(put simply)
10:32<TheOfflineBay>so in theory.... there should be no issues using linode?
10:33<gparent>If you follow US law, which you don't know because you don't have a lawyer.
10:33<akerl>The fact that you're having this conversation suggests that you realize it will be used primarily for infringing content
10:33<gparent>If you do, ask him!
10:33<akerl>And this channel is publicly logged
10:33<TheOfflineBay>akerl not quite
10:33<akerl>Yes
10:33<TheOfflineBay>i run a proxy to thepiratebay which houses alot of opensource content
10:33<akerl>hahahahahaahahahahaa
10:33<akerl>hahaha
10:33<akerl>hah
10:34<@rarlan>lulz
10:34<TheOfflineBay>xD
10:34<akerl>have a great day
10:34<virtual>akerl: breathe
10:34<TheOfflineBay>well that awnsers my question xD
10:34<gparent>the people who do this and do not land in federal prison do not need to ask in #linode about it
10:34<gparent>if that gives you a hint
10:34<Nivex>most of my screen says: < akerl> [shitlisted] Must be my cue to walk away from console for awhile.
10:34<akerl>o/
10:35<virtual>gparent: :)
10:35<TheOfflineBay>but anyways.... is the node likley to be suspended for running a tracker
10:35<gparent>The question is always around US law.
10:35<gparent>So you're asking a lot of lawyer questions to non-lawyers right now.
10:35<TheOfflineBay>technically its not breaking the law
10:35<TheOfflineBay>just isps hate it
10:35<gparent>if that's what your lawyer said..
10:36<Nivex>US law depends upon whom you piss off. Just ask Aaron Swartz. Oh wait, you can't. He's dead.
10:36<TheOfflineBay>aha xD well im not going to pay out for a lawyer in anouther contry
10:36<akerl>TheOfflineBay: If you get a pile of DMCAs, Linode will probably ask you to knock it off
10:36<TheOfflineBay>ok that sounds fair enough
10:36<TheOfflineBay>thanks :)
10:36<gparent>good luck
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10:37<TheOfflineBay>thanks xD now i just need a way to hide the fact i profit from it
10:37<akerl>:|
10:37<TheOfflineBay>i think a laywer would come in handy
10:37<HypnoToad>Admin online?
10:37<Nivex>posting that fact in a publicly logged channel might not have been the best strategy
10:37<akerl>This is the user community. If you have a question, you're welcome to ask it
10:37<HypnoToad>support*
10:38<TheOfflineBay>Nivex not nessiserly xD
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10:40<HypnoToad> Support online to help me please :) ?
10:40<HypnoToad>nope?
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10:41<akerl>HypnoToad: This is the user community
10:41*HypnoToad slaps aforster around a bit with a large fishbot
10:41*HypnoToad slaps aforster around a bit with a large fishbot
10:41<akerl>If you want to talk to Linode Support, put in a ticket. If you have a question, you're welcome to ask us
10:41*HypnoToad slaps alexf around a bit with a large fishbot
10:41<akerl>Or you can just be a giant dick
10:41<HypnoToad>lol how?
10:41*virtual sighs
10:41<HypnoToad>my account
10:41<HypnoToad>is pending
10:41<HypnoToad>...
10:41<@alexf>!return
10:41<Peng>HypnoToad: What part of slapping strangers seems appropriate?
10:41<akerl>Cool. Go get a drink or something and wait for it to be reviewed
10:42<@alexf>akerl: what's the newline linbot response I'm looking for here?
10:42<akerl>!enter
10:42<+linbot>IRC supports complete sentences. Less <CR> more content, please.
10:42<HypnoToad> Thank you for completing your signup! Your account is currently being reviewed. You'll receive an email from us in just a few minutes, so hang tight!
10:42<HypnoToad>days..
10:42<HypnoToad>i just recharged with 50$
10:42<HypnoToad>or € idc
10:42<@sheuer>HypnoToad: You'll definitely want to open a ticket.
10:42<akerl>HypnoToad: When you try to sign in to the Linode Manager now, you see that message?
10:42<Karrde>but what if I can't fit a sentence in 512 characters minus my entire source address, destination, and CRLF at the end of the line?
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10:43<virtual>then you use bpaste.net
10:43<Peng>Karrde: You must really suck at Twitter
10:43<virtual>DAMMIT. That was my next line.
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10:44<@alexf>HypnoToad: unless you want to discuss your account details with all the non-staff in this chat (and I stronly advise you not to), your best course of action is open a ticket. When you do, you'll need to verify that you control the account in question
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10:44<@alexf>ok, ttyl
10:47<akerl>heh
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10:58<MajObviousman>OH KNOW ALL MY SHEET IS DOWN
10:58<MajObviousman>QUICK BLAME LINODE
10:59<MajObviousman>Linode come fix my AWS sheet
10:59<Peng>Shouldn't like your comforter be down instead?
11:01<MajObviousman>not in the spring, you philistine
11:01<@alexf>heh, rhyming burns
11:01*MajObviousman aims for extra credit
11:09<anti-neutrino>Hi Guys .. I was wondering what can I do to get more disk space on a linode
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11:09<Peng>Upgrade to a larger plan.
11:09<anti-neutrino>from what I understand maximum storage I can get on linode is 1TB
11:10<anti-neutrino>so if I go to a larger machine .. would they attach more SSDs?
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11:11<Peng>What?
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11:12<anti-neutrino>I am trying to get another TB space on my existing linode . I am on 49152 size node
11:13<Peng>Have you noticed the price?
11:13<AlexC_>anti-neutrino: A Linode 96GB offers near 2TB of storage
11:13<anti-neutrino>Ahh .. ok that's what I was looking for .. thanks AlexC_
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11:14<AlexC_>anti-neutrino: Though it may be cheaper to use a different storage solution
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11:14<Peng>or the 48GB or 64GB plans also have more than 1 TB...
11:15*MajObviousman can start reading news sites again
11:15<anti-neutrino>48GB one says maximum is 1TB
11:15<anti-neutrino>let me check 64GB instnace
11:16<Peng>The 48GB plan has 1.1 TB of space. :P
11:16<anti-neutrino>AlexC_: What are other commonly used solutions .. to be honest I dont even need SSDs as I am running Hadoop stack
11:16<anti-neutrino>Peng: ahaha .. true
11:17<TwoWholeWorms>Don't suppose any of you lot have a clue what could be causing this to happen? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29416419/mysql-error-1148-on-load-data-local-infile-with-local-infile-1
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11:19*MajObviousman has also wondered what linode customers with big storage needs do
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11:20<MajObviousman>I mean, you can do bulk up/down to S3 or a swift/object storage something
11:22<MajObviousman>argh @ openstack for all their clever names! Cinder is the block storage service
11:22<virtual>argh @ all 'modern' technologies using a name that has no meaning to the technology.
11:22<anti-neutrino>ours is a map-reduce workload so not sure if object storage would be much useful
11:23<MajObviousman>right
11:23<anti-neutrino>virtual: cannot agree more
11:23<MajObviousman>virtual: name? Or label?
11:23<virtual>any relation at all. Openstack is a great example with all its modules.
11:24<virtual>They make me think 'oh, crap, what's this new technology that has whizzed by me'. Then many web pages later "oh. Is *that* what it is. Why didn't they just bloody say so on the first page".
11:24<MajObviousman>I'm ok with needing to label things for reference purposes
11:24<MajObviousman>but the clever stings. Cinder block storage?
11:24<MajObviousman>virtual: and yes. YES. This happens to me all the time.
11:24<virtual>must be burnt.
11:25<virtual>after that mini rant, I go sleep. :)
11:25<MajObviousman>I show people code and somebody goes, "Oh you're using a xyz algorithm here?"
11:25<virtual>haha
11:25<MajObviousman>I never know, it was just what was needed to do the job
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11:25<MajObviousman>if I knew it was meaningful, I would have put my own name on it
11:27<MajObviousman>those who can't code write about it instead and come up with names for things so they can still be important
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12:10<Guest854>Your account has been active since April 27, 2014 [NOW I FORGET HOW TO INSTALL AND SETUP A SERVER ] [I NEED TO GOOGLE FOR EACH STEP BUT STLL MY SERVER GOING STRONG ] You guys actually managing my server? When i was in DO and TransIP i need a reinstall or FIX every time, On Linode I Forget about SERVER !! :)
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12:18<Kerubin>Night
12:18<Kerubin>Do you offer windows 2012 r2 as systen?
12:20<@rarlan>Kerubin: We are Linux only
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12:20<Kerubin>Ok thanks
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12:39<rene>Hello
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12:45<rene>hello - i'm new here. can you show me around
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12:46<gparent>o_O
12:51-!-mode/#linode [+b rene!*@*] by rohara
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13:18<ajay>Anyone out there/
13:19<Nivex>!to ajay ask
13:19<+linbot>ajay: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
13:19<ajay>I could not get the link for applying the job in your careers page..
13:20<ajay>Is that a walk in?
13:20<@ccravens>Maybe it's a technical competency test.
13:21<ajay>Do you have a open position for a market research analyst?
13:21<@ccravens>https://www.linode.com/careers
13:22<akerl>"market research analyst" sounds like "I read hackernews a lot"
13:22<@ccravens>I expect that all our openings are listed there.
13:22<ajay>I can view this page but couldn't apply ..!!
13:23<akerl>ajay: You can't click buttons?
13:23<ajay>NO
13:23<akerl>Why not?
13:23<ajay>I could not see any buttons over there
13:24<akerl>Are you disabling javascript or other page resources?
13:24<@ccravens>You saw that the form is a scrolling box, and the buttons are hidden further down?
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13:24<gparent>to be honest, even if there were no buttons for applying, why would someone care
13:25<ajay>Guys I cant get you!!
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13:28<@ccravens>I wasn't kidding when I said it was a technical competency test.
13:29<Nivex>no/spam :)
13:30<gparent>keepass fails the comprehension test for sure
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14:00<Nathanael>anything special to get mail() to work on PHP in a fresh linode?
14:03<vexn>atlantic.net has a full KVM VPS for $1/month
14:03<gparent>a shamanic chant
14:03<vexn>does linode have anything like that?
14:03<gparent>I don't think Linode has lower quality offerings no
14:03<vexn>? no it's the same quality as Linode's $10
14:04<vexn>same specs
14:04<gparent>heh
14:04<vexn>you can only have one. limit one per customer
14:04<vexn>but if that's all you want, hey
14:04<vexn>it's their way of getting you in the system so if you decide to buy more it's easier and there is a lower barrier to entry
14:05<vexn>it's just business in the 21st century gparentbro
14:05<gparent>I'm not your bro.
14:06<gparent>but sure, good luck. i would expect 1/10th linode's quality and service
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14:08<Nathanael>how do i get mail() to work?
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14:12<akerl>Why isn't it working now?
14:12<+linbot>New news from forum: Sudden PHP ERROR & Slow Application in Web Servers and Web App Development <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11711&p=66517#p66517>
14:13<Nathanael>not sure. Default install of Ubuntu as per Linode istructions. Do i need to install exim mail or something? I'm trying an SMTP plugin for wordpress now to see if that will wokr
14:13<akerl>Yes, you'd need to install an SMTP
14:13<akerl>An actual SMTP, not some wordpress plugin
14:13<Nathanael>ok. thanks. akerl
14:13<akerl>exim is popularish, postfix likewise
14:15<@ccravens>exim++
14:19<Nathanael>Thanks guys. Also, I'm experiencing lag on my linode now. Just rebooted and still lagging in wordpress. Was perfectly fine 30 minutes ago. :(
14:20<akerl>what's lagging
14:20<Nathanael>hangs up and eventually displays "This webpage is not available"
14:21<Nathanael>seems to be rocking now :) was lagging for the past 15 minutes though
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14:35<Cromulent>heh I didn't know that RHEL 7 used XFS as the default filesystem
14:39<Nathanael>as usual; thank you linode community. I'm out to make some server changes now. :)
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14:44<vexn>I think linode is just way over-priced. They have really bad support and charge twice as much as everybody else. digitalocean, ramnode, and atlantic.net are far superior.
14:45<rnowak>k
14:45<Cromulent>vexn: cool
14:46<Cromulent>vexn: if you ask nicely they might give you a discount
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14:49<elton>hi
14:49<Cromulent>hi
14:49<elton>please, i need some help
14:50<Cromulent>!ask
14:50<+linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
14:50<vexn>I think linode is just way over-priced. They have really bad support and charge twice as much as everybody else. digitalocean, ramnode, and atlantic.net are far superior.
14:50<Cromulent>vexn: cool story bro
14:51<Cromulent>the only thing digital ocean is far superior too is a turd
14:51<Cromulent>and even then an argument could be made for the turd
14:51<elton>first of all, sorry for my english... i have completed my sign up yesterday... send my credit card photo but couldnt access my account
14:52<Cromulent>elton: are you waiting for your account to be activated? If so you might want to send a ticket to support to see what is happening
14:53<+linbot>New news from forum: Setting up fail2ban for WordPress abuse in Linux Networking <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11712&p=66518#p66518>
14:53<elton>yes. but after send my credit card photo, i could login anymore... i received a "wrong user/password" message... today i did a new signup
14:54<elton>with the same login name and email
14:54<elton>and linode has accepted
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14:54<@alexf>elton: rather than make a whole new account I would have suggested using the Recover Password option to regain access to your existing account.
14:55<Cromulent>elton: hmm so you have 2 accounts now?
14:55<elton>i did it... i try to recover password but doesnt receive any email
14:56<vexn>I think linode is just way over-priced. They have really bad support and charge twice as much as everybody else. digitalocean, ramnode, and atlantic.net are far superior.
14:56<elton>diddnt receive**
14:56<Cromulent>someone kick this clown
14:56<Cromulent>vexn: ^
14:57<elton>i have already received 2 credit cards authorization... but still cant access my account
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15:01<vexn>I think linode is just way over-priced. They have really bad support and charge twice as much as everybody else. digitalocean, ramnode, and atlantic.net are far superior.
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15:02<@rarlan>\o/
15:03<@alexf>they see me trolling... they hatin`
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15:29-!-mode/#linode [+b ekrout!*@*] by alexf
15:29-!-mode/#linode [-b ekrout!*@*] by alexf
15:29<MJCS>well make up your mind :P
15:30<@alexf>whoops
15:30<@ekrout>damnit, alexf this is not the test area
15:30<@alexf>not with that attitude it's now
15:30<MJCS>ekrout: tell that to GLADOS
15:30<@alexf>s/now/not
15:30<@ekrout>alexf is not GLADOS
15:30<@ekrout>unless he is?
15:31<MJCS>GLADoS is a she
15:31<MJCS>like any god. it is female
15:31<staticsafe>should I be concerned about that fact that I haven't received the month's invoice/payment email yet?
15:31<@alexf>staticsafe: have you logged in to your account to see your current payment status?
15:32<staticsafe>yes, it has an outstanding balance
15:33<auraka>pay your bills bum
15:33<MJCS>lulz
15:33<rnowak>outstanding means it is excellent, right? you're good to go!
15:34<staticsafe>D:
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15:37<auraka>rnowak: ahhthat explain your FICO credit score from Experian.com ™
15:38<auraka>didn't linode announce Germany and Singapore like two months ago and still nada
15:39<Nivex>auraka: blog has been updated, SG should be online end of April
15:40<avenj>staticsafe: mine didn't happen automagically either
15:40<avenj>staticsafe: I happened to notice a bit ago and clicked the 'take my money!' button
15:40<avenj>I assumed just slow
15:41<auraka>ahh the good ole take my money button
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15:57<Ubik>I had once proposed (at a previous job) adding a "Go out of Business" button to our ecommerce product...which would drop your databases, delete your site files, and remove it frmo DNS. Never did seem to gain traction from management.
15:58<jrhunt>would that come with a confirmation dialog?
15:59<Ubik>that was debatable... could add it in 2.0 I guess?
15:59<jrhunt>may I suggest "Are you unsure?"
16:00<Ubik>exactly
16:00<Ubik>cyberanger might be able to facilitate the creation of such a dialog
16:01*cyberanger scratches head
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16:03<jrhunt>followed by help text: "Not going out of business will keep your database intact and your site operational"
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16:07<jijojohn>hello guys ...
16:07<jijojohn>any one here
16:07<akerl>Just us bots
16:07<jijojohn>:qw
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16:08*gparent sighs
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16:08<agreene>Hi - I was wondering if I could install a specific .iso in a VM in your cloud?
16:09<akerl>!custom
16:09<+linbot>https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/running-a-custom-linux-distro-on-a-linode-vps
16:09<Ubik>cyberanger: :)
16:11<agreene>thank you!
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16:23<iamgay>cure me
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16:33<+linbot>New news from forum: Can't send/receive messages with postfix in Email/SMTP Related Forum <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11713&p=66521#p66521>
16:53<+linbot>New news from forum: Can't send/receive messages with postfix in Email/SMTP Related Forum <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11713&p=66522#p66522>
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17:05<MJCS>WTF HP. They want $42.95 to purchase a USB stick to recover my $200 tablet instead of just offering an ISO
17:06<@jstewart>MJCS: Ensure that they have a good return policy. Buy, DD to your own drive, return.
17:07<@alexf>jstewart++
17:07<Ubik>wow
17:07<@jstewart>They used to charge insane prices for optical media back in the day too. No one informed tHP that we've moved on from 56k internet.
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17:08<Ubik>Friend of mine had a couple of those el cheapo Kurio tablets for her kids, somehow they got all wonky, and I was able to go on the Kurio site and download the necessary stuff to restore them. And we're talking cheap Kurio tablets here.
17:08<MJCS>my bootloader got corrupted and I cant get to a command prompt to fix it
17:09<@alexf>MJCS: I'm guessing this is Win8?
17:09<MJCS>yeah
17:10<MJCS>I'm going to try a Linux ISO here in a few
17:10<@jstewart>You can make your own Win8 media, as long as your tablet is an x86 version.
17:10<@alexf>MJCS: My thinkpad came with Win8. I used this to resolve * issues with it: https://manjaro.github.io/
17:10<MJCS>Its X86 and I have a boot disk but it isnt reading any of them
17:10<MJCS>alexf: thanks
17:11<MJCS>I'll try it
17:11<MJCS>I was using the tablet to test Win 10
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17:13<MJCS>Trying a x86 version instead of x64. $1 says that was the issue
17:14<MJCS>not a bad little tablet to use as a diagnostics tool when in the field. Comes with 400MB of free 4G
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17:15<new>Does Linnode support multiple Ips
17:15<MJCS>new: yup
17:15<MJCS>IPV4 costs $1 a month I think and you also get a big 'ol block of IPV6
17:15<new>I just have to request it?
17:15<@alexf>new: additional IPv4 addresses cost $1 per month and need technical justification
17:16<MJCS>yeah through the manager
17:16<new>ok great let me try
17:16<new>Thanks
17:16<@alexf>I will let you
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17:17<Santos>Anyone can help with a mod_security issue?
17:18<akerl>not if you don't tell us about the issue :P
17:18<@alexf>that would be a security risk
17:18<@alexf>Santos: We kid. Don'tbother asking to ask, just ask
17:18<MJCS>Well I feel like a dumb ass. I was trying to install x64 when it wanted x86
17:18<akerl>MJCS: That would do it :P
17:18<akerl>atom?
17:19<Ikaros>I will withhold the remark I was just about to make
17:19<MJCS>yeah
17:19<akerl>mhm
17:19<@alexf>I will withhold my remarks on those who say they are withholding remarks instead of just withholding.
17:19<@jstewart>MJCS: Some of the new Atom tablet chips don't make it very clear that they aren't x64 capable. Easy mistake to make.
17:20<MJCS>Yeah
17:20<Santos>I have mod_security installed and activated with a blank mod-security.conf file, everything works but if I replace the blank file for the content in this link https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SpiderLabs/ModSecurity/master/modsecurity.conf-recommended
17:20<Santos>apache will not restart
17:21<akerl>why not?
17:21<@alexf>what is the error apache gives on restart?>
17:21<Santos>The error is this one
17:21<Santos>Invalid command 'SecRequestBodyLimitAction', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
17:21<MJCS>jstewart: it took me 3 days to figure that out
17:21<Santos>Probably is something related with the mod_security version. Any clue on how to solve this ?
17:22<@alexf>Santos: my first inclination, knowing nothing about this conf file, would be to comment out that line and see what happens.
17:22<Santos>Other lines appear
17:22<@alexf>When one falls, three more rise up to take its place...
17:22<akerl>Santos: Are you sure you've enabled mod-security?
17:23<@alexf>a2enmod that jawn
17:23<gparent>might be worth using the reference file from the tag of the version of mod_security you're using, assuming it's enabled.
17:23<Santos>I get this "Module mod-security already enabled" after running sudo a2enmod mod-security
17:23<akerl>And you're sure the config you're using matches your version of mod-security?
17:23<Santos>Where can I get that reference file?
17:25<@alexf>probably from whereever you got that config file
17:28<Santos>@akerl no I'm not, how can I get that ?
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17:28<Santos>akerl: no I'm not, how can I get the version of mod_security that I'm using or find the default config file for my version ?
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17:28<akerl>Santos: Well, as gparent said, try using a config provided by your mod-security package
17:28<akerl>rather than the pre-baked one
17:28<gparent>Santos: the way I checked was on github, you can select which tag you're viewing
17:28<akerl>Look at whatever the package dropped down
17:28<Santos>How can I do that?
17:28<Santos>akerl: How can I do that?
17:28<akerl>By looking on your system
17:28<gparent>10/10 would akerl again.
17:28<akerl>/usr/share/somethingorother seems like a decent bet
17:28<Santos>akerl: I don't know where to look for this
17:28<akerl>/etc/apache2/somesuch
17:28<akerl>find / -name '*security*' would be cool too
17:29<MJCS>Oooo NAB starts next weekend
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17:31<Santos>akerl: inside /etc/apache2 I have "apache2.conf" "conf.d" "enviers" "httpd.conf" "magic" "mods-available" "mods-enabled" "ports.conf" "sites-available" "sites-enabled"
17:32<gparent>alexf: he got the config file from the master branch of the github, so that doesn't really him unfortunately.
17:32<gparent>o_O
17:32<gparent>there was a sentence in there: that doesn't really tell him*
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17:34<Santos>How do I find the version of mod_security I'm using?
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17:45<Santos>akerl: I found a file on /usr/share/doc/mod-security-common/examples/modsecurity.conf-minimal I will try that one
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17:55<Eugene>Wow, just wow. Linode support is really slacking today.
17:55<Eugene>I opened a ticket for an inter-account transfer, and then a confirmation ticket on the other account.
17:55<Eugene>BOTH tickets got the canned response of "Please open a confirmation ticket"..... including my confirmation ticket, which included the other's ID#.
17:55<Eugene>Like, wtf guys?
17:56<shinji257>O_O
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18:39<MajObviousman>Eugene: reading is hard. N stuff.
18:39<Eugene>Apparently.
18:40<Ikaros>...wow. That was some shaking.
18:40<Ikaros>Earthquake just hit and it was a doozy
18:41<MajObviousman>Ikaros: we felt nothing over here
18:42<Ikaros>Friend of mine said over by him it almost felt like at LEAST a 4.0 or better
18:42<MajObviousman>that's a bit shocking
18:42<MajObviousman>I don't think Dallas is ready for earthquakes that are actually Big
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18:43<MajObviousman>global incident map reports a 2.7 happened this AM 'round 5:45 AM
18:43<MajObviousman>in Irving
18:43<Ikaros>Yeah and another just hit
18:44<Cromulent>is there a way to test in a virtual machine whether the host machine is running ECC RAM? And if it is not do you think it is safe to assume that the host CPU is not a Xeon?
18:44<Cromulent>(or Opteron)
18:45<Ikaros>3.3 centered right where all the other ones earlier this year hit
18:45<Ikaros>I blame fracking for stirring up that fault line.
18:46<MajObviousman>yeah me too
18:46<MajObviousman>where'd you find the info on the msot recent?
18:46<MajObviousman>DMN has nothing
18:46<Ikaros>1080 AM KRLD broke in breaking news mode.
18:47<Ikaros>http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10001tg3#general_summary
18:47<MajObviousman>nice
18:48<Ikaros>About 3 and a half miles deep
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18:53<Ikaros>LOL
18:54<Ikaros>My stepmom texted me. "I felt the earth move under my feet. I felt the world come tumbling down."
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18:54*MajObviousman golfclaps
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19:09<LFAIT>Hello
19:10<LFAIT>can a client request smaller package than what is listed on the website.
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19:12<akerl>Nope
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19:16<Eugene>Typo in: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments#canceling-your-account
19:16<Eugene>"2. Click the Accounts tab."
19:16<Eugene>The tab actually says "Account"
19:16<akerl>:|
19:17*akerl awards Eugene today's Pedant of the Week award
19:17<Eugene>I'll accept nothing less than a monthly title
19:17<akerl>the only monthly title I have available at the moment is "Gentoo Expert of the Month"
19:17<akerl>will that work?
19:18<Eugene>I know how to run `make`, so I think that qualifies me.
19:18<MajObviousman>time for some funrollloops!
19:18<akerl>haha
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19:55<asdf>IDENTIFY
19:55<asdf>hello?
19:55<akerl>No
19:55<asdf>ok...
19:55<asdf>well i say yes
19:56<asdf>!
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19:57<staticsafe>o_o
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19:59<Zigara>staticsafe: O_o
20:00<staticsafe>hi
20:00<Zigara>linode very premium
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20:34<James_T>...why the fuck did I get an inbound DoS on newly acquired IP's
20:35<virtual>Previous owner is upset he couldn't keep them?
20:36<James_T>Didn't notice since I connect to my znc over ipv6
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20:44<devilspgd>James_T: I had that happen shortly after I moved to Linode. Turned out to be aimed at one of my clients, they started getting extortion emails a couple weeks later.
20:44<James_T>45.33.66.54 is on a tor exit DNSBL
20:44<devilspgd>IPv6 saved the day, put up some frontend load balancers that routed everything over IPv6 and life was good.
20:45<James_T>I have two public IPv4 addresses
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21:19<MJCS>this has been bugging me for a bit. What is it called when you have an XML Element (which happens to be null or empty) written like this <MyAttribute></MyAttribute> vs <MyAttribute/>
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21:22<MJCS>its called empty element right?
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21:26<virtual>MJCS: As far as I'm aware, yes.
21:27<MJCS>ok. I'm just not finding what I want. oh well
21:27<virtual>yup, wikipedia seems to agree.
21:27<MJCS>thanks
21:28<MJCS>what wiki page did you find that in
21:28<virtual>oh, maybe I've gotten confused. I call <MyAttribute/> an empty element.
21:28<virtual>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML#Key_terminology
21:28<virtual>I'm not sure what you call it when you write it out 'fully'.
21:29<virtual>oh, still called an empty element according to my ancient XML Pocket ref.
21:31<James_T>Woo! turns out it's a false positive
21:31<James_T>...and some efnet servers are using a dead DNSBL
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21:31<mitc0185>is it cool to ask support questions in here?
21:31<MJCS>virtual: thanks. I couldnt find my XML Pocket ref book...just saw it in the garage the other day too
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21:43<phrozen>anyone else get a receipt email but no invoice email?
21:44<Ikaros>I got both as usual.
21:44<Ikaros>Though invoice mail came on the 1st and the receipt late today
21:46<purrdeta>They haven't charged me yet *shrug*
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21:59<Ikaros>They will.
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22:09<purrdeta>of course they will
22:09<purrdeta>I'm not expecting free service.
22:10<virtual>heh
22:11<HoopyCat>phrozen: i have received neither an invoice nor a payment receipt
22:11<virtual>Last invoice I got was about a year ago. I expect the next one will come next year ;)
22:11*HoopyCat buys Linode a jar of Netamucil
22:16<auraka> or just pay yo bills yo
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22:48<James_T>yo
22:48<James_T>purrdeta: lol
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22:55<+linbot>New news from forum: Failed remote web connections in Linux Networking <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11596&p=66530#p66530> || Spamhaus IPv6 blocking issues impacting Linodes in Email/SMTP Related Forum <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11698&p=66529#p66529> || Fairly self explanatory, I assume. Very little taking in Web Servers and Web App Development <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11715&p=66528#p66528> || Stuf
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23:31<Trinity>hi guys, so I have a data server doing stuff
23:32<Trinity>and my development devices uses an SSD, im writing around 250GB of data onto it
23:32<Trinity>and going to be reading from it constantly
23:32<akerl>k
23:32<Trinity>my development system's ssd just burned out
23:32<Peng>uh
23:32<akerl>what does "burned out" mean
23:33<Trinity>its fried
23:33<akerl>...
23:33<Trinity>im assuming its because of SSD's limited write calls compared to HHDs
23:33<akerl>lol
23:33<akerl>Why do you assume that?
23:33<Trinity>will I have the same issue with linode or will their software be more robust?
23:33<Peng>SSDs don't die after writing 250 GB.
23:33<Trinity>Peng, it was consistent read/write/overwrite
23:33<akerl>So?
23:34<akerl>SSDs don't die after 250GB of writes, unless it was a 3MB SSD drive
23:34<Peng>Trinity: Linode uses RAID and enterprise SSDs. It's really hard to kill them, and they'll replace them when they do.
23:34<Peng>Trinity: Also, this is why you have backups.
23:34<Trinity>Peng, alright thanks thats the answer I was looking for
23:34<rnowak>ENTERPRISE SSD
23:34<Peng>:D :D
23:35<akerl>ENTERPRISE CLOUD
23:35<Peng>Trinity: It's always possible for a server to go up in flames in an unrecoverable way. Or for the Air Force to accidentally drop a nuke on the data center.
23:35<Trinity>akerl, im not sure but the SSD is gone so thats the remaining assumption I have, I ever tried reformatting and Dbanning
23:35<Trinity>even*
23:36<akerl>how did you determine that it's "gone"
23:37<Trinity>akerl, drives not being recognized thus the "tried" to dban
23:38<Trinity>i plugged in a separate harddrive and it worked like a charm
23:38<akerl>that sounds like a bad drive
23:39<Trinity>I tried to fdisk but it wasn't detected
23:39<Trinity>well I haven't thrown out the drive yet so if you have any suggestions i'd love to try em
23:39<akerl>step 1: RMA it
23:39<Peng>step 1: send your data through the mail to a mega corp!
23:40<kyhwana>trinity: what SSD model? Probably a firmware failure. You can write petabytes of data with the worst kind of writes (<4k random writes)
23:40<kyhwana>But yeah, i'm pretty sure linode RAID their SSDs too, so a single failure wont lose your data, however, you should still have offsite backups
23:42<Trinity>lyhwana, Samsung SSD 120GB DXT07B0Q i've had it for around 2 years now
23:42<Peng>Why is this conversation in #linode anyway?
23:42<Peng>Oh, right.
23:43<Trinity>kyhwana, any suggestions for a data backup service? I don't want to use Linode's it would be way too expensive. On the otherhand all of my data is aggregated online so would there be any difference between backup's vs reaggregating (takes 48 hours)
23:43<Peng>Linode's backup service is not expensive.
23:43<Peng>Still, it's worth nothing that it's not off-site, and it's obviously not off-company, so you should use something else. (Perhaps in combination with Linode's for convenience.)
23:44<Peng>worth noting* !
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23:45<kyhwana>Trinity: something like tarsnap, or run duplicity yourself plus S3/glacier
23:45<kyhwana>(or crashplan, I guess)
23:46<Peng>or Google Cloud's thing.
23:46<Peng>Glacier-ish but without the billing minefield
23:47<Trinity>? it's 8 GB backup for 20 dollars a month
23:47<Trinity>or am i getting the wrong data?
23:48<Trinity>Peng*
23:48<Trinity>Peng,
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23:49<shankardevy>i am evaluating various cloup providers for one of my large projects.
23:49<shankardevy>Gandi.net says "When you pause a server, then you are only charged credits for the disk and network interface. You are not charged credits for the CPU or RAM while the server is paused."
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23:50<shankardevy>does linode pricing work the same?
23:50<kyhwana>shankardevy: you still pay full price for a linode that is turned off
23:50<shankardevy>kyhwana: thanks.
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23:51<Peng>Trinity: The Linode backup service backs up all the data on your node for 25% of the price of the node.
23:52<Trinity>Peng, ahh would you mind linking me? this is the only page google gives me
23:52<Trinity>https://www.linode.com/backups
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23:56<RumpledElf>that's the right page
23:56<RumpledElf>so the 8G linode is $20 a month to backup
23:57<James_T>cheep cheep
23:57<Trinity>AHH!! it means for an 8GB linode
23:57<Trinity>not 8GB of backup haha
23:57<Trinity>thanks guys
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23:59<arlen>hence the Plans are priced according to the Linode plan you'd like the Backup Service added to.
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