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02:01<saikat>Hey guys -- I'm getting a strange issue where I am able to build my docker images fine on my Vagrant VM but as soon as I try to build my image on my Linode machine, apt-get update from inside the docker container (during the build) is failing with https://gist.github.com/mockingbird/0d356b49d924796ab1cf. I can ping all those ips and the hostnames. Anyone have any idea what may be going on?
02:01<saikat>(it also hangs on "Waiting for headers" for a long time before showing that error)
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02:21<saikat>ok i think part of the problem was i needed to change apt sources to use mirrors.linode.com, which at least downloaded Release.gpg, but now it's hanging on Waiting for headers after that
02:22<Peng>Well, you don't "need" to do that unless you don't have a connection to the Internet.
02:22<saikat>i should have a connection to the internet
02:23<saikat>unless the linode datacenter is not providing one, but it seems to be up
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02:23<saikat>also pinging all the servers is working
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02:32<retro|blah>Huh. I can't say I have much insight into docker-specific things to check for, but I'm tempted to say break out the tcpdump and see if the tcp connections are leaving your Linode and the responses are getting back
02:32<saikat>retro|blah: so that's been one of the issues is
02:32<saikat>how do i use tcpdump
02:32<saikat>if apt won't work
02:33<saikat>maybe i can find a docker image with it preinstalled
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02:33<retro|blah>Yeah, I was thinking do it on the Linode where the docker images are running on, not necessarily within the docker image
02:33<saikat>ah i see
02:34<saikat>yeah that makse sense, thanks
02:34<Peng>Also -- IPv4/IPv6 issue?
02:35<saikat>i did manage to get curl on there and i can see that curl google.com fails from within the image, so that's something (though ping google.com works)
02:35<saikat>hm maybe
02:46<retro|blah>Ah. Looks like when docker installs it puts some rules into the iptables FORWARD chain (in the filter table) as well as PREROUTING/OUTPUT/POSTROUTING (in the nat table)
02:49<saikat>yeah
02:49<saikat>i'll mess around with that
02:49<retro|blah>It also sets net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 (sysctl)
02:49<saikat>what does that do?
02:50<saikat>sorry i can look it up :) thanks a lot for helping me out here
02:50<retro|blah>Enables ip forwarding, which is probably required in order for the NAT stuff to work
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03:07<makito>sup
03:09<saikat>@retro|blah seems like rebuilding my linode from scratch magically fixed it
03:09<saikat>thanks for all your help
03:10<saikat>oh sorry i lied, it didn't :)
03:10<makito>sucks to suck
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04:30<Eugene>All your Nodes are belong to us.
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05:15<+linbot>New news from forum: are there any way to make limit of total connections by IP? in Linux Networking <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11753&p=66703#p66703>
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05:19<Ruwan>hello
05:19<Ruwan>I want to know any configeration have to work codeigniter in linode server
05:20<Ruwan>my script work in localy
05:20<Ruwan>but not work in server
05:21<Ruwan>hello anybody here
05:21<Ruwan>??
05:21<Ruwan>??
05:21<Ruwan>??
05:22<kyhwana>?
05:23<kyhwana>What's the exact error you're getting?
05:23<Ruwan>404
05:23<Ruwan>error occured every time
05:23<Ruwan>I try most of hourse to fix it
05:24<Ruwan>I try to change .htaccess file
05:24<Ruwan>but I dont know is that correct
05:24<Ruwan>can u give help
05:24<Ruwan>for fix it
05:26<kyhwana>uh, what do your logs say?
05:27<Ruwan>it can not be understand
05:28<Ruwan>have to do some genaral thing to work codeigniter script
05:28<kyhwana>Well, you need to provide more details just saying "it doesn't work, fix it" isn't going to get it fixed
05:29<Ruwan>http://45.33.92.123/
05:30<Ruwan># # Apache/PHP/Drupal settings: # # Protect files and directories from prying eyes. <FilesMatch "\.(engine|inc|info|install|make|module|profile|test|po|sh|.*sql|theme|tpl(\.php)?|xtmpl)$|^(\..*|Entries.*|Repository|Root|Tag|Template)$"> Order allow,deny </FilesMatch> # Don't show directory listings for URLs which map to a directory. Options -Indexes # Follow symbolic links in this directory. Options +FollowSymLinks # Multiviews creates problems with
05:30<kyhwana>Yes, it says 404. What do your logs say? What does codeigniter say in it's logs?
05:30<kyhwana>also, use pastebin for pasting stuff
05:30<kyhwana>also run "apache2ctl -s" and see what errors it spits out
05:31<Ruwan>how I run command
05:31<Ruwan>linode
05:32<kyhwana>what? you type it into your shell (as root, or use sudo)
05:32<Ruwan>ok
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05:37<Ruwan>apache2: illegal option -- s Usage: /usr/sbin/apache2 [-D name] [-d directory] [-f file] [-C "directive"] [-c "directive"] [-k start|restart|graceful|graceful-stop|stop] [-v] [-V] [-h] [-l] [-L] [-t] [-T] [-S] [-X] Options: -D name : define a name for use in <IfDefine name> directives -d directory : specify an alternate initial ServerRoot -f file : specify an alternate ServerConfigFile -C "directive" : process directive before reading config files -c "dire
05:38<Ruwan>it says illigale option
05:39<kyhwana>uh
05:39<Ruwan>can I delete .htaccessfile
05:39<kyhwana>no, read what I said
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06:08<rebelx>hi, any question - servers on Linode - this VPS working on SSD HDD drive?
06:11<kyhwana>rebelx: it's SSD storage, yes
06:13<rails>"SSD HDD drive" is an oxymoron
06:13<rebelx>kyhwana: well, many thanks:) and second question - this VPS or dedicated server(s)? administration this VPS/Dedicated is root/password - really root? - full privilegies?
06:14<kyhwana>.. it's a unmanaged VPS that you have full control over
06:16<rebelx>kyhwana: well, this good! yes ouki douki:-)) another package (debian) example - apt-get install debian_package.deb is possible? and add cron job (crontab -e etc etc...)?
06:21<kyhwana>22:14 < kyhwana> .. it's a unmanaged VPS that you have full control over
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06:35<rebelx>kyhwana: many thanks!! this really GOOD!!!
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06:35<Madhy>hi
06:35<@drussell>Hello
06:35<Madhy>your servers have cpanel?
06:36<@drussell>No. But you are free to install it.
06:36<Madhy>you dont halep to install?
06:36<Madhy>help
06:36<@drussell>Not unless you purchase the Managed Service.
06:36<@drussell>!managed
06:36<+linbot>https://www.linode.com/managed
06:37<Madhy>how much is that
06:37<kyhwana>It says on the page
06:38<Madhy>found
06:38<Madhy>bit expansive
06:38<Madhy>how about installing other aplcations
06:38<Madhy>we need a good webmail
06:39<Madhy>OX Appsuite or Zimbra, do you have other suggestion
06:39<@drussell>You're welcome to do so yourself, but as we are an unmanaged service provider, you'd have to install it yourself or hire our Professional services team.
06:40<kyhwana>Madhy: linode also offer professional services
06:40<@drussell>!professional
06:40<+linbot>https://www.linode.com/professional-services
06:40<kyhwana>otherwise you install it yourself
06:41<rebelx>kyhwana: thnx:) nice day:) (or night?:)) are you from?:)
06:41<kyhwana>night, bedtime soon
06:41<Madhy>Maldives
06:42<Madhy>no 24/7 support?
06:42<kyhwana>Madhy: there's 24/7 support for stuff on linodes side, that is, stuff not related to what's going on inside your linode
06:42<Madhy>ok
06:42<kyhwana>If you want that, pay for the managed service
06:42<Madhy>ok thank
06:42<Madhy>s
06:43<Madhy>good night!
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06:55<+linbot>New news from forum: Docker network problem with Linode in General Discussion <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11755&p=66704#p66704>
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07:05<+linbot>New news from forum: Docker network problem with Linode in General Discussion <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11755&p=66705#p66705>
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08:03<HoopyCat>it's time for BRAK FEST! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Brak_%28character%29.png
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08:25<+linbot>New news from forum: Docker network problem with Linode in General Discussion <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11755&p=66706#p66706>
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10:44<ckosloff>can somebody recommend a portable usb scanner that works on linux?
10:48<+linbot>New news from forum: High CPU Usage Even when Upgraded in Performance and Tuning <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11757&p=66707#p66707>
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10:55<Bambo>I have some question regarding what the Linode Managed Add-on include, can anyone explain is it includes firewall setting on our server?
10:55<Bambo>*setting up a firewall in our server
10:56<@caker>typically no. Managed provides help with the operation of your services - not setting things up for you (except site migrations are included)
10:57<@caker>If you need ad-hoc sysadmin help, check out https://www.linode.com/professional-services
10:58<+linbot>New news from forum: High CPU Usage Even when Upgraded in Performance and Tuning <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11757&p=66708#p66708>
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11:18<+linbot>New news from forum: High CPU Usage Even when Upgraded in Performance and Tuning <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11757&p=66709#p66709>
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11:30<Bambo>@caker: For example to handle chinese brute force attacks, and if I need help setting up mod_security or fail2ban or any other firewall, would the managed plan include that help?
11:31<Bambo>@caker: Or proximately what would that cost from professional-services? Not the exact value bust just to have a sense of the costs..
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11:35<Bambo>For example to handle chinese brute force attacks, and if I need help setting up mod_security or fail2ban or any other firewall, would the managed plan include that help?
11:35<Bambo>Or proximately what would that cost from professional-services? Not the exact value bust just to have a sense of the costs..
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11:42<Nightmare>You can handle the chinese brute force attacks just fine if you have a good password/ssh keys
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11:44<hello>hello
11:44<hello>can i help me
11:44<arlen>yes you can
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11:44<Guest2502>korea torrent server
11:44<Guest2502>Want to build
11:45<Guest2502>can?
11:45<arlen>fun
11:45<Guest2502>no?
11:45<Guest2502>yes?
11:45<arlen>I don't know, can you?
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11:45<Guest2502>nono
11:45<Guest2502>https://webchat.oftc.net
11:45<Guest2502>hosting
11:46<mop>:)
11:46<Guest2502>torrent site can be built?
11:46<arlen>on the webchat? no
11:46<arlen>you'd have to get. your own server
11:47<Guest2502>fun
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11:47<Guest2502>good bye
11:47<Guest2502>see you next time
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11:47<arlen>bye
11:48<mop>when the linode's sg node will be set up
11:49<arlen>when they're ready
11:49<Nivex>mop: The last I heard was they were targeting end of April. https://blog.linode.com/2015/01/16/linode-datacenter-expansion/
11:49<Nivex>but as arlen suggests, that target may or may not be hit
11:52<mop>Nivex i saw the page just
11:52<Bambo>Nightmare: I want to stop seeing the requests on my Rails log, too much noise from chinese random requests, and some requests already use correct internal URLS from my app.. Scary, can you guys help with these with the Manage Add.on ?
11:53<Bambo>I'm wanting too much time looking for Sys-admin stuff I need to focus on my app, can Linode help? What would be the cost of that help?
11:53<Bambo>*wasting
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11:58<Bambo>Anyone?
11:58<arlen>?
11:59<Nightmare>Bambo: try opening a ticket maybe?
11:59<Nightmare>it's hard for us to say since we're community
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12:00<Bambo>I tought this was only guys from Linode… My bad. Thanks
12:00<Bambo>Nightmare: Thanks
12:00<arlen>the ops are. linode
12:00<arlen>the rest of us are nerds nerding
12:01<Bambo>arlen: Got it. Thanks
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15:30<voxelcarrot>ok, I suspect I'm just being dense
15:31<voxelcarrot>is there a way for me to automatically add some IPs from an allocated pool, such that the "auto networking helper" picks them up and configures for me?
15:31<voxelcarrot>or do I have to disable that and add manually
15:31<dwfreed>latter
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15:45<Joey_>anyone here in admin of your systems?
15:45<Joey_>any living human thing here at all?
15:46<akerl>This is the user community. If you have a question, you're welcome to ask it
15:46<Joey_>awesome... traced a phishing scam from an email i got to some indonesian website...
15:47<Joey_>opened their site resources and found their atacking IP in their log
15:47<akerl>!abuse
15:47<+linbot>Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. http://www.iana.org/abuse/faq.html shows how to look this up yourself.
15:47<Joey_>traced it to one of the servers here
15:47<Joey_>contacted their abuse team...
15:48<Joey_>unfortunately this is quite a big issue... and no response yet
15:48<akerl>Wha makes it a big issue
15:48<laser`>how long ago did you contact?
15:48<Joey_>http://togel2015.com/cnef/
15:49<Joey_>if you check this URL out and brouse the unprotected directories, you'll find a large number of banks, incometax and other online financial sites are being targetted by these guys.
15:49<akerl>Yup
15:50<akerl>That's about par for the course on the internet. Linode will handle it shortly
15:50<laser`>out of curiosity, how did you trace it to Linode? The IP for that looks like Cloudflare to me
15:51<Joey_>do a traceroute on the cloudflare IP... they are bouncing it off several VPN, VPS and mirrors
15:51<akerl>lol
15:53<Joey_>67.18.7.161 this seems to be the second IP they have here...
15:54<Joey_>Seems like they are running different OS services from different IPs
15:54<Joey_>this one was from their Mac api
15:54<akerl>I feel like you've been watching too much CSI
15:55<dwfreed>161.7.18.67.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN PTR router1-dal.linode.com.
15:55<dwfreed>I highly doubt Linode's router is doing anything malicious
15:55<avenj>linode's router kicked my dog
15:55*dwfreed kicks avenj's dog
15:55<avenj>:(
15:55<laser`>Hmm, whois says it's a "The Planet" IP
15:55<Joey_>nope... haha supposed to be studying for electronics midterm tomorrow and got email
15:56<laser`>not heard them mentioned for a while
15:56<dwfreed>laser`: softlayer probably never got around to updating the ARIN contacts
15:56<Ikaros>Pretty safe to assume that if it says "The Planet", it's actually SoftLayer.
15:56<Joey_>there was another whois placing them in netherlands...
15:57<Ikaros>Wouldn't they be compelled to by anything though?
15:57<dwfreed>Ikaros: ARIN likes up to date WHOIS contacts
15:57<laser`>Joey_: Because the website is hosted behind Cloudflare, doing a traceroute/whois/whatever won't show where the server is really hosted
15:57<dwfreed>Ikaros: they have flagged contacts before for not validating themselves
15:58<akerl>Joey_: If you have actual logs linking a Linode IP to this, that's what you'd want to ship to abuse@linode.com, and once you've done that, they'll sort it out
15:58<laser`>https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/ is what you want
15:58<Joey_>http://togel2015.com/cnef/log.txt
15:58<Joey_>log that i got the IP from.
15:58<Ikaros>dwfreed: Much how like ICANN requires valid and updated contact info on domain registrations?
15:59<akerl>Joey_: Wut
15:59<Joey_>http://www.infobyip.com/traceroute-141.101.99.153-ipv4.html
15:59<Joey_>traceroute stating the various bounces...
15:59<akerl>That log shows some poor Linode *hitting* that site
15:59<akerl>Potentially related, but not a sign they're hosting anything malicious
16:00<akerl>and that's not even a Linode IP......
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16:00<Joey_>i know... the linode IP is where the service originates.
16:00<retro|blah>If by service you mean the infobyip.com service, sure
16:00<akerl>You see Linode IPs in the traceroute because http://www.infobyip.com/ is hosted on a Linode
16:01<arlen>lmao
16:01<akerl>http://www.infobyip.com/traceroute-google.com-ipv4.html
16:01<Ikaros>(and this wasn't obvious before)
16:01<Toba_>lollllll
16:01<akerl>http://www.infobyip.com/traceroute-facebook.com-ipv4.html
16:01<Toba_>ok this is really funny
16:01<Toba_>just email abuse@
16:01<Toba_>but don't because it's nothing t odo with linode
16:01<akerl>Toba_: Or not, given Linode isn't related at all
16:01<Toba_>haha
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16:01<laser`>get in touch with Cloudflare... that's all you need to do, not investigate it yourself
16:01<akerl>clearly
16:01<Ikaros>Indeed, you need to be contacting CloudFlare, not Linode
16:01*akerl calls CSI: Miami
16:01<arlen>csi cyber
16:01<Toba_>the traceroute is coming from
16:01<Toba_>inside the house
16:01<dwfreed>akerl: you mean CSI: Cyber
16:02<laser`>Simply whois the IP in question and get in touch with the abuse contact listed in that whois, no more digging needed
16:02<akerl>dwfreed: All CSI is cyber
16:02<Toba_>cyber seance investigation
16:02<dwfreed>akerl: CSI: Cyber is actually a thing now
16:02<Toba_>https://threatpost.com/csi-cyber-we-watched-so-you-didnt-have-to/111440
16:02<Joey_>see i knew if i screwed up bad enough the people on here would be inclined to help me solve the problem.
16:02<Toba_>^ read that
16:02<arlen>starring bow wow
16:02<Toba_>haha
16:03<Joey_>Thanks guys... like i said before... i'm no boff... i just googled and followed steps to try and get a malicious phishing site removed.
16:04<Ikaros>Joey_: All you really did is jump the gun, now all you have to do is go to the correct place to report it, easy enough.
16:08<Joey_>Thanks ... is this the correct method? :http://www.infobyip.com/ipwhois-141.101.99.153.html
16:11<Joey_>the worst part is... i know people who would watch the HECK out of CSI: Cyber... *slowly facepalms*
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16:16<Joey_>and thanks again people of linode. i have actually learnt something here tonight... godspeed
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17:01<Edward_>Hi everyone, getting the message "The plan you selected is not available. Please choose a different plan and try again" when I'm starting a 1G from Tokyo, should I do a javascript loop for sending the request or if there is a proper queue for me? thanks
17:01<nate>Edward_: Doing a JS loop is probably a good way to get your account in trouble, but there is no specific queue yet as far as I'm aware no
17:02<nate>tokyo has been rather frequently full for a while, which is why they're opening a second one up I belive
17:02<dwfreed>Edward_: tokyo is basically sold out; if you open a ticket, staff can put you on the waiting list
17:02<dwfreed>Edward_: see https://blog.linode.com/2015/01/16/linode-datacenter-expansion/
17:03<Edward_>thanks for the info, regretting that I removed 2 nodes from tokyo... didn't know it is so demanded
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17:26<dcraig>I like the javascript loop method :D
17:26<dcraig>if you loop enough, they will make the facility bigger
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17:32<Ttech>lol
17:32<Ttech>Welcome to Linode Manager, you have 6,000 hosts queued
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20:09<pussygladiator>yo will the $10 plan be enough to run a cs:go server?
20:09<SlosHeD>lmfao
20:09<pussygladiator>i mean a small server
20:10<pussygladiator>like 10 slots, just for messing around.
20:10<SlosHeD>did you check the server's system requirements?
20:10<pussygladiator>thats a good start
20:11<pussygladiator>what type of virtualization does linodeu use?
20:11<SlosHeD>whats that mean in n00b?
20:11<SlosHeD>like what distribution?
20:11<pussygladiator>xen, kvm, openvz
20:12<SlosHeD>hrm
20:12<retro|blah>Xen
20:12<SlosHeD>i dunno what that means
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20:13<pussygladiator>okay word
20:13<pussygladiator>yo i also saw that you can upload your own linux image
20:13<Peng>yes
20:13<pussygladiator>but what are the default options for os, does it have freebsd?
20:13<SlosHeD>hi Peng :)
20:13<Peng>!distros
20:13<+linbot>https://www.linode.com/distributions
20:13<pussygladiator>word thanks
20:13<Peng>No FreeBSD, as it's not a Linux distribution, and BSD's Xen support has taken a lot longer to progress than Linux's.
20:14<SlosHeD>I was gonna shut down some of my spigot servers to launch a RTCW server
20:15<pussygladiator>could I still upload FreeBSD
20:15<pussygladiator>Is the gentoo image already precompiled? Or will I need to setup the kernel and everything myself
20:17<pussygladiator>yo also, my last question is what is the cpu's preformance. 1 core at how much ghz?
20:17<retro|blah>The Gentoo image is pre-setup and uses Linode's own kernel. You could boot to a recovery disk and do your own chroot install instead if you wanted
20:18<retro|blah>CPU specs may vary but I have this: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
20:18<pussygladiator>great. that is good to know, takes the headache of installing it right out
20:18<SlosHeD>thats actually a good question i never asked
20:18<SlosHeD>is there a way to find out my linode's specs via prompt?
20:20<nate>SlosHeD: `cat /proc/meminfo`
20:20<nate>whatever total memory you got is roughly your linode package
20:20<nate>oh wait why am I suggesting an overly complicated way
20:20<nate>`free -m` would prob be far simpler
20:21<Peng>pussygladiator: Yes, you *can* upload BSD with some work (check Google), but it may not be totally stable.
20:21<Peng>Also apparently some of the servers have E5-2680 v3 CPUs now :D
20:21<nate>or `free -mh` if you want more friendly-readable 'sizes'
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20:30<SlosHeD>So that got me 8210mb
20:32<nate>Under "Total" in the "Mem" row? Then you're on an 8G linode
20:32<nate>at least I'd think an 8G
20:32<nate>seems a weird memory count for 8G
20:32<SlosHeD>well i knew that already...was more inquiring about CPU specs
20:32<nate>oh
20:32<nate>lol
20:33<@caker>cat /proc/cpuinfo
20:33<nate>^ that, it should be either an E5 v3 or v2 unless you haven't upgrading in a really long time
20:34<SlosHeD>Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
20:34<nate>The v3's are like very new
20:34<nate>I just rebuilt a linode like two weeks ago and still ended up back on a v2
20:35<SlosHeD>whats the difference?
20:35<trippeh_>not much
20:35<trippeh_>haswell vs ivy bridge generation
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20:39<Peng>AVX-512 is a difference, I b'lieve?
20:39<SlosHeD>i likes my linode...always really fast
20:39<SlosHeD>i hit reload on a server and it takes like 1-2 seconds
20:40<trippeh_>Peng: and a little faster memory, more or less
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21:31<SlosHeD>TTL is a pain
21:32<Peng>It is?
21:33<Peng>Using the wrong TTL and not planning ahead is a pain.
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21:34<SlosHeD>just waiting for the web to update is a pain
21:35<nate>then plan ahead
21:35<nate>:P
21:36<SlosHeD>i did
21:36<SlosHeD>i planned on doing this awhile ago
21:36<SlosHeD>:P
21:36<nate>Then you shouldn't have been waiting long >.>
21:36<arlen>:P
21:37<SlosHeD>
21:39<SlosHeD>the internet must be clogged up today
21:42<HoopyCat>give CMOS a try
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21:44*SlosHeD looks at Hobbits|away
21:45<SlosHeD>afk...i need to make a kid do her homework :/
21:45<Peng>SlosHeD: In future, when you have a chance to plan ahead, you should lower your TTL a TTL before you need to make the change.
21:45<SlosHeD>i did
21:45<SlosHeD>its at 600 seconds
21:45<SlosHeD>the webs just being slow
21:46<SlosHeD>i took the zone file and changed it from my linode back to remote hosting on a different provider
21:46<SlosHeD>just waiting for the changes to take affect
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21:49<SlosHeD>I can just spend the time learning how to install a RTCW server
21:50<nate>SlosHeD: There's a consideration to be made when setting that low, a lot of ISP's do not like drastically short-term TTL's and will override it normally back to an hour at minimum
21:50<nate>worst I've ever seen is an override TTL of 24 hours
21:50<SlosHeD>interesting
21:51<SlosHeD>what does linode like?
21:51<SlosHeD>heh
21:51<nate>I doubt linode cares at all (they're not really an ISP in the sense of giving you internet access to your house), though you can easily check by doing a dig on your linode against the resolver and seeing what the TTL is showing as
21:52<zifnab>or, you could be the school i went to
21:52<zifnab>and override all of them to 35 years
21:52<nate>that would definitely be a bit of an override
21:52<zifnab>(then do an ipconfig /flushdns in a gpo at login - but it seriously fucks up mobile clients)
21:53<zifnab>idr how many 9s it was
21:53<SlosHeD>lol
21:53<zifnab>but it worked out to 34 years
21:53<nate>The highest I ever -heard- others talk about was like a week override
21:53<zifnab>lol
21:53<nate>but 35 years?
21:53<nate>lol
21:53<Peng>I think Linode's resolvers override the minimum to something reasonable like ten seconds.
21:53<zifnab>i think it was the max value iwndows would allow in the overide field for their resolvers
21:53*Peng checks
21:53<SlosHeD>basically i just re-branded my linode is all
21:53<Peng>Nope, 0 TTL comes through now.
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21:53<SlosHeD>i put the ex-domain back onto godaddys web hosting
21:54<zifnab>meh
21:54<nate>ew godaddy
21:54<zifnab>ew
21:54<nate>'nuff said
21:54<zifnab>ew shitty shared hosting
21:54<zifnab>ew openvz
21:54<zifnab>ew hyper-v
21:54<zifnab>any others i missed
21:54<nate>godaddy does hyper-v and openvz?
21:54<zifnab>(disclaimer: i like hyper-v for failover)
21:54<zifnab>nah
21:54<zifnab>i'm gu essing they do openvz
21:54*nate wouldn't know
21:54<zifnab>yup, they do openvz
21:54<nate>The 'most' I piss with them on are domains with one of my current clients
21:54<zifnab>tl;dr: while(1) {malloc(1);}
21:54<nate>I won't put a damned thing there personally though
21:54<nate>lol
21:54<SlosHeD>i got it for like 5 bucks... *shrugs*
21:55<zifnab>i remember testing that on them at one point
21:55<zifnab>older openvz it'd crash the host kernel
21:55<zifnab>assuming your non-burst ram wasn't available
21:55<zifnab>(so, over sold non-burst ram)
21:55<nate>SlosHeD: Yeah and they'll probably steal it back from you for free
21:55<nate>:P:
21:55<nate>*:P
21:55<zifnab>zif.net :(
21:55<SlosHeD>someone did some testing on them and said after 100 unique simultanious visitors it wouldn't load any more
21:55<zifnab>RIP
21:56<nate>SlosHeD: Shared hosting? They imply an amusing amount of limits on shared hosting as far as I'm still aware
21:56<zifnab>the tl;dr there is 'i owned that, godaddy sold it from under me, then stated it was registered in 95 to the new owner'
21:56<SlosHeD>yeah...back when we started we tried to keep the website there
21:56<zifnab>probably in 2007 or 2008 :/
21:56<nate>zifnab: And thus my comment about stealing it back for free
21:56<SlosHeD>i havent had any issues with domains being tampered with
21:56<zifnab>nate: pretty much!
21:57<zifnab>it redirects to hostfile now? weird
21:57<SlosHeD>If anything they've given me a lot of free stuff over the years
21:57<nate>For the amount of people I've known that had their domains "mysteriously hijacked" From godaddy I don't even understand why they're still an authorized registrar
21:57<nate>the complaints have got to be exceeding 9000 by now
21:57<nate>:P
21:57<SlosHeD>wow
21:57<zifnab>i need tea
21:57<Peng>Maybe Go Daddy sends their sexy spokesmodels to ICANN meetings.
21:57<SlosHeD>I'm gonna get rid of two of mine...
21:57<Tea>sorry zifnab i'm busy
21:57<SlosHeD>lol
21:57<nate>More so when godaddy just happens to frequently be chosen as the 'medium to sell back the domain'
21:57<zifnab>Tea: oh hi! awesome nick, didn't mean you
21:57<nate>because that doesn't seem shady at all
21:58<nate>Peng: Indeed, though reality of it I imagine is the fact that despite all the bullshit godaddy does, ICANN makes a fuckton of money from them on fees and what not
21:58<nate>and godaddy knows this so they do just enough they can get away with
21:58<SlosHeD>where does all the money go?
21:58<nate>SlosHeD: Mainly to godaddy
21:59<SlosHeD>well...money tends to flow upward
21:59<SlosHeD>who is on top?
21:59<Peng>nate: ICANN doesn't need Go Daddy, though. It's not like domains wouldn't sell without them.
21:59<virtual>Heh, indeed.
21:59<nate>Peng: Sure but there's a reason they've been selling custom TLD's at obscene prices, they like money, they like a lot of money and godaddy probably provides it
22:00<nate>SlosHeD: ICANN only gets like around 40 cents per-domain for most of the main gTLD's, and godaddy technically charges you the ICANN fee separately where as most domain registrars include the ICANN fee in their price
22:01<nate>er 20 cents
22:01<nate>I think 40 cents are the ccTLD's or some shit, I forget
22:01<nate>but anyways
22:01<SlosHeD>dangit I can't find a installer for RTCW
22:01<nate>When you get a domain from godaddy you're basically paying $15 to godaddy and another 20~ some cents for them to relay to ICANN
22:02<nate>as for where the money goes inside godaddy, to the silly execs who make the company shitty :P
22:02<nate>and realize that now matter how much shit they do bad, advertising to idiots will always keep them rich
22:02<nate>lol
22:02<Peng>Has Go Daddy improved since the acquisition?
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22:03<nate>which one?
22:03<nate>mailchimp? I highly doubt it
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22:03<Peng>Since that private equity company bought GD a couple years back.
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22:03<Peng>or w/e
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22:05<nate>I'm not actually seeing anything about that, I vaguely remember hearing the possibility of it but nothing about it ever happening
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22:06<nate>Ah looks like three companies actually made a purchase, for a split 65% control
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22:08<zifnab>tea- acquired
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22:08<zifnab>Peng: i can sell someone poop, its still poop
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22:11<SlosHeD>thats a lot of joinparts
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23:18<Peng>!wx ksfb
23:18<+linbot>Peng: [metar] OBS at KSFB: 73.4F/23C, visibility 10 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 75.25F (altimeter: 29.91) [KSFB 200253Z 17007KT 10SM CLR 23/19 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP126 T02330189 50009]
23:18<Peng>"23/19" :X
23:19<dwfreed>KSFB has been contaminated by a foreign object from a human child
23:25<zifnab>!wx kbtm
23:25<+linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KBTM: 46.4F/08C, visibility 10 miles, wind 6.90 mph, chill 42.90F (altimeter: 30.05) [KBTM 200253Z AUTO 14006KT 10SM BKN070 OVC090 08/M05 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP175 T00781050 53002]
23:25<zifnab>!wx ksea
23:25<+linbot>zifnab: [metar] OBS at KSEA: 60.8F/16C, visibility 10 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 59.90F (altimeter: 30.01) [KSEA 200253Z 35007KT 10SM BKN250 16/06 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP170 T01560056 56014 $]
23:25<zifnab>gah can't wait
23:25<dwfreed>!wx KSJC!
23:25<+linbot>dwfreed: [metar] KSJC 200253Z 29010KT 10SM FEW015 SCT200 14/11 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP121 T01440106 53007
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