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---Logopened Wed Aug 12 00:00:00 2015
00:00<tonyyarusso>ah, nice
00:00<dcraig>*badum tish*
00:00<tonyyarusso>I used to, but have gradually stopped caring, mostly.
00:02<tonyyarusso>I was watching Parenthood, but that ended, I would be watching the last few episodes of The Daily Show if the Flash plugin wouldn't crash so much, and I usually watch Big Bang Theory and Last Week Tonight, but in all four cases I watch them online for free and if I miss something because I don't want to pay for it, meh.
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00:03<tonyyarusso>Broadcast TV reception at my new house is terrible, and I can't justify paying for any sort of TVish thing, so I mostly just don't watch stuff anymore.
00:03<Peng>you can watch Last Week Tonight for free?
00:03<tonyyarusso>Peng: A lot of it (not all) is posted to YouTube.
00:04<tonyyarusso>They post all of the feature segments, but not all of the little bits.
00:04<Peng>Ah.
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00:46<Cromulent>openssh 7.0 release notes: http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.0
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06:43<stevesmename>just fried a database server during a resize. f*!
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08:02<+linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Daily my DB is crashing <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12114&p=68085#p68085>
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09:22<+linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Rsync Permission denied (publickey). <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12141&p=68086#p68086>
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09:31<sp_>heprobably needs to escape the ` in his ssh command
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10:40<gmaciolek>Heya, folks! I'm just checking to make sure I understand correctly; the "private IP" space at any given site is shared amongst all clients, right?
10:40<gmaciolek>(in other words, do a solid job firewalling)
10:41<@caker>yup
10:41<jasonm>Well that should ALWAYS be the case to firewall
10:41<jasonm>regardless of how well a company says they protect you
10:42-!-You're now known as mikegrb
10:42<+linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Can not Reverse DNS <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12138&p=68087#p68087>
10:43<gmaciolek>Just checking. I'm fairly used to managing my own set of ~30 private VLANs, so it's a bit of a shift.
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10:44<gmaciolek>Woah, I appear to have just broken my IRC client
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11:42<+linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Rsync Permission denied (publickey). <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12141&p=68088#p68088>
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11:53<+linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Rsync Permission denied (publickey). <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12141&p=68089#p68089>
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12:23<+linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Rsync Permission denied (publickey). <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12141&p=68090#p68090>
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12:35<ericoc>so what linodians are going to the philly meetup at headhouse square/shambles tonight??? i'll be there!
12:35<kuzetsa>do {ns2,ns3,ns4,ns5}.linode.com all get their slave sync transfer update thingies more than a few seconds aprat?
12:36<kuzetsa>*aprart? -- I just noticed some of them have my updated zone but not others O_O
12:36<kuzetsa>ns5 is still lagging
12:36<@caker>from your notifies?
12:36<kuzetsa>but a few minutes ago ns4 hadn't updated (before that, ns3 hadn't
12:36<@caker>Is this a slave zone?
12:36<kuzetsa>nah, I used the linode DNS manager to manage this domain / never slaved it to a server
12:36<Eugene>Your'e obsessing a bit over DNS speed. Go get a coffee.
12:36<@caker>Yes, the updates happen a few minutes apart.
12:36<kuzetsa>neat
12:37<kuzetsa>probably less peak load on the infrastructure that way :)
12:37<kuzetsa>Eugene: hmm? I was mostly just curious. I didn't think their was a problem
12:37<Eugene>they're*
12:38<ericoc>caker: slave zones are basically instant though amirite?
12:38<kuzetsa>didn't think *their speed was a problem
12:38<kuzetsa>>:)
12:38<kuzetsa>I let a word out
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12:51<RyanKnack>Is there an ipv6 outage in Tokyo?
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13:03<+linbot>New news from status: Emergency Network Maintenance - Tokyo <http://status.linode.com/incidents/c0jw9bvwdtqp>
13:05<squidly>Does Linode have a Looking Glass I can peak at?
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13:08<Eugene>Nope, all of their IP blocks are announced under carrier's AS#s. I recommend bgp.he.net and do a search for "Linode"
13:09<Eugene>They're slowly moving to their own AS#, though
13:10<Eugene>Or fastly, as it turns out looking at that now
13:10<squidly>No I was looking to see if I could get a look to my companies AS path from what LIndoe looks like.
13:10<Eugene>http://bgp.he.net/AS63949#_graph4
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13:12<squidly>Eugene: that's one thing I was looking at
13:13<Eugene>That's about the best I can recommend, short of a MTR
13:13<squidly>I was looking at the AS path
13:14<deathspawn><3 those speedtest hosts
13:14<dwfreed>Eugene: except Frankfurt and Singapore IPs
13:14<deathspawn>makes it easy to see if it's your node or the datacenter if the status page didn't get updated yet.
13:14<Eugene>Linode's? I find them useless, because they only have a 100MB test file. My home connection does that in under a second.
13:14<Eugene>dwfreed - there's one block of Telecity UK ones
13:15<squidly>No going to my own ASN at work
13:15<deathspawn>you can ping and mtr them on both ipv4 and ipv6
13:15<Eugene>squidly - these things are a lot easier when you mention WHAT your ASN is ;-)
13:15<squidly>Eugene: 11550
13:15<squidly>I looked at He's Looking glas
13:17<Eugene>That'll end up depending upon peering points. It looks like you have Cogent & TW as upstreams, which will quickly enter the generic "blend" that is backbone internet.
13:17<Eugene>MTR, and see who owns the routers in the middle ;-)
13:19<squidly>THat is something I was looking at and seeing where my ASN goes and I'm trying to redirect some from TW to Cogent
13:19<squidly>but that's what I needed thansk
13:19<squidly>thanks*
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13:23<+linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Private network additional routing <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12142&p=68091#p68091>
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13:43<+linbot>New news from forum: Linux Networking • Private network additional routing <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12142&p=68092#p68092>
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14:13<+linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Daily my DB is crashing <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12114&p=68093#p68093>
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14:23<+linbot>New news from docs: Monitor System Logs with Logwatch <https://www.linode.com/docs/uptime/monitoring/monitor-systems-logwatch>
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15:07<mark>Hi guys, I am just setting up longview but when I click on the nginx tab I get The Nginx status page doesn't look right. Check http://127.0.0.4/nginx_status and any redirects for misconfiguration. but when I use "curl -l http://127.0.0.4/nginx_status" it retuns Active connections: 1 server accepts handled requests 7 7 45 Reading: 0 Writing: 1 Waiting: 0
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15:13<+linbot>New news from status: Scheduled Network Maintenance - London <http://status.linode.com/incidents/c2j8pg3s6f9c>
15:18*mark is struggling to understand why longview is not working with nginx
15:20<mark>LOL wtf it just started to work on it’s own
15:20<mark>linode internal network maybe
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15:24<kcaj>Oo new additional transit uplinks for London
15:24<amelia>ooh
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15:40<kishanio>Hi
15:40<kishanio>I'm in serious trouble.
15:40<kishanio>I can't ssh to my server anymore
15:41<kishanio>it drops me to a blue terminal screen that says ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS <host> hvc0 and keeps asking me to login
15:42<kishanio>am i not already sshed? beside i can't use my login id and password to login here.
15:42<retro|blah>What are you SSHing into exactly?
15:42<@caker>hvc0 implies the console, not the server's sshd
15:42<kishanio>my linode box
15:42<kishanio>here lish-london.linode.com
15:43<kishanio>so i ssh by ssh <uname>@lish-london.linode.com
15:43<sirpengi>that's lish console
15:43<kishanio>i get dropped in to console
15:43<kishanio>that is all blue
15:43<kishanio>no this again asks me for username and password
15:43<kishanio>i can't seem to use the same i did for ssh'ing
15:43<sirpengi>because it's the lish console
15:44<sirpengi>you use your linode manager credentials
15:44<kishanio>oh so how do i ssh?
15:44<sirpengi>https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
15:44<kishanio>you mean <uname>@ip?
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15:45<kishanio>so i do SSH at lish it asks me choose my box then again asks me to login again.
15:45<@caker>lish-london.linode.com <-- you use your Linode Manager creds. Then, at the getty login prompt you use a user configured inside your Linode itself.
15:45<@caker>ssh <username>@<ip> <-- you would use a user inside your Linode itself
15:46<kishanio>how was i able to use it few hours back?
15:46<@caker>use what?
15:46<kishanio>ssh -t <uname>@lish-london.linode.com <linodboxid>
15:47<@caker>what is your actual question?
15:47<kishanio>i got inside my box directly
15:47<kishanio>now i can't
15:47<sirpengi>maybe you had a public key set up
15:47<@caker>Because someone left your console logged in.
15:47<sirpengi>oh that
15:47<@caker>If you log into Lish, connect to a Linode's console, log into its getty, and then detatch from the console screen session or disconnect, the next time you reconnect to the console screen session you'll be back where you left off.
15:48<kishanio>oh make sense. so it was another developer who was working now. I have access to my user account is there anyway i can get access to box?
15:48<@caker>...
15:49<kcaj>Only with the root password.
15:49<kcaj>Or a password for a user on the OS>
15:49<@caker>Log in via SSH into your Linode's sshd, NOT the console
15:49<xar>pffft you'll have to pry my console workflow from my cold dead hands
15:49<kishanio>yeah i'm not sure he passed that details.
15:49<xar>>:)
15:50<kishanio>caker: linode sshd?
15:50<@caker>kishanio: ssh into the Linode's IP address itself.
15:50<kishanio>ugh yeah. i gotta get hold of the other dev.
15:51<kishanio>why would people not pass all the info at once.
15:51<kishanio>lol
15:51<xar>if you have console access, in theory, you can reset it yourself
15:51<kishanio>but anyways thanks
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15:51<kishanio>caker: ^
15:51<kcaj>xar Please don't.
15:51<kcaj>Lets not go there.
15:52<xar>hey im just sayin'.... :D
15:52<@jfred>It's not too hard... but you'll lock anyone else out of the machine :P
15:52<kishanio>so i don't have console access do i? as soon as i ssh i'm dumped into blue screen asking for cred again.
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15:53<kishanio>this time cred i used for ssh doesn;t work here.
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15:56<kishanio> if i change root pass using linode manager
15:57<@caker>If I change the root password, will it change the root password?
15:57<@caker>Answer: yes
15:57<kishanio>yeah it says linode would shutdown so that's catastrophic
15:57<kishanio>right?
15:57<@caker>No?
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15:58<@caker>Will lives be lost if the Linode is shut down momentarily?
15:58<@caker>(am I being trolled?)
15:58<xar>Absolutely yes you are. /dwight schrute
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15:59<kishanio>caker: Eh! i'm just trying to figure out implications.
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16:01<@jfred>Your Linode is a virtual computer. Shutting it down is like shutting down a computer.
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16:01<@jfred>If there are things running on it, they won't be running when it's shut down :P
16:02<@jfred>and they will be when it's powered back on... if it's set to do so
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16:03<kishanio>exactly right.
16:03<kishanio>it won't be wise to shutdown a live machine.
16:04<xar>yolo.
16:04<Nivex>Can I deploy a distro to a new disk image on an existing linode and keep the other images around?
16:04<@jfred>Yes, as long as you have enough unallocated space to do so
16:05<Nivex>ahh ok, I found it "Deploy Image". I only saw Rebuild at first and didn't want to wipe anything
16:05<Nivex>I have plenty of room. I haven't expanded into my various upgrades over the years.
16:05<xar>linode has images? hmm where are they stored?
16:06<Nivex>I'm planning to deploy a new 64-bit Debian 8.1 and copy configs over from the old image.
16:06<user___>images?
16:06<kcaj>I've stumbled across the image thing previously, each user gets 10GB of space IIRC>
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16:07<user___>hot dang they really upgraded
16:08<xar>yea this must been in the last year or so, I need to pay attention more, I still don't know where they "live" though and their utility fee, must gewgle
16:10<@jfred>xar: They're on separate hardware from the host your Linode's on, and stick around even if you delete the Linode. Also they're free :)
16:10<xar>ooo fancy :)
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16:17<BartoszKuzmicki>Hi, I have a question about Linode
16:17<@jfred>!ask
16:17<+linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
16:17<BartoszKuzmicki>Does Linode have ISO 27001 certification?
16:18<xar>I have a question, what's the favorite beer amongst Linode personnel
16:18<xar>this is obviously more important >:)
16:18<BartoszKuzmicki>I know that in Europe it's using TelecityGroup which does have SIO 27001 cert, but I'm not sure how it's for other locations
16:18<amelia>Beat me to it, BartoszKuzmicki
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16:28<Peng>BartoszKuzmicki: Which locations are you curious about?
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16:29<BartoszKuzmicki>i think mostly the us locations
16:30<Peng>there are a lot of them ^_^'
16:37<Peng>Dallas, "The SoftLayer platform is audited by a third-party security firm and meet all requirements for ISO 27001 in every assessed data center ..."
16:38<kcaj>"meet all requirements for ISO 27001 in every assessed data center"
16:38<kcaj>But is it certified? in which data centers?
16:38<BartoszKuzmicki>yes :), we have currently servers in Newark, Atlanta, Dallas and Fremont. do you know if any of them have any iso certs?
16:40<BartoszKuzmicki>that's great that dallas has an iso cert! do you know of any other ones?
16:40<Peng>kcaj: Yes, that's some careful language, eh?
16:40<kcaj>Peng Certainly, sounds like a lawyer wrote it :P
16:41<Peng>https://www.softlayer.com/SoftLayer4/pdfs/SoftLayer_ISO_Certificate.pdf might say which data centers were assessed
16:42<@rarlan>BartoszKuzmicki: We have security documentation (not necessarily the ISO certificate, some have a SOC2 and not the ISO). We can provide you any and all documentation we have for each DC you're interested in by opening a support ticket.
16:42<BartoszKuzmicki>yes, that would be great, i will open a ticket
16:42<@rarlan>BartoszKuzmicki: Great!
16:43<kcaj>Linode appear to be located in SoftLayer's Dallas 2 DC, which SoftLayer say is certified.
16:43<Peng>Zayo (Atlanta) goes on about SOC on their website, implying they don't do ISO. http://www.zayo.com/services/colocation/certifications
16:44<Peng>Same with Newark: http://www.nac.net/data-centers/compliance/
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16:51<user___>Why are people saying irc is dead it seems to be working just fine to me??
16:52<sirpengi>no, irc is dead
16:53<staticsafe>yeah we are all zombies
16:54<trippeh>braaaaaaainz
16:54<Eugene>Linode: We're certifiable!
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16:59<user___>We eat brainzzz now? Come to california we are lacking:D
16:59<miranda>hiya, does anyone here f' with HAproxy/
16:59<miranda>err ?
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17:12<Ikaros>IRC is retro, man
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17:18<amelia>Nonsense :P
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17:30*jfred <3's IRC
17:30<@jfred>though Matrix is pretty cool too :P
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17:33<SNy>user___: "People" are saying it because they fail to understand how it works.
17:34<Ikaros>More like they don't want to take the time to understand how it works.
17:34<Ikaros>As simple as it is.
17:34<SNy>What was that dude saying a few days ago? "This is the worst chatroom" or something? After 1 minute, no less?
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17:35<Ikaros>Indeed.
17:35<Peng> /ll worst
17:35<Peng>oops :D
17:35<Eugene>Wurst
17:35<Ikaros>Which is why I said it's more like they just don't want to take the time to understand how it works.
17:36<@jfred>"There aren't always people here to help me immediately? This is the worst!"
17:37<rsdehart>crowbar 'em
17:37<rsdehart>I've been reinforcing my sentiment lately that violence really is the answer
17:39<SNy>You... 'd like that device? That allows you to stab people remotely?
17:39<SNy>http://bash.org/?4281
17:39<Ikaros>Apparently they missed the part that this is a community support channel. People here volunteer their valuable time to answer questions. But they don't realize that if they really need urgent support, they are much better off filing a ticket/calling/sending email.
17:39<@jfred>SNy: I think you just need a slight modification to this: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html
17:39<Ikaros>They figure, ok, I'll just use IRC only and hope for the best
17:40<Ikaros>Not realizing that IRC isn't always the best way to get help on everything
17:42<SNy>jfred: I suppose that the "probe" stanza wasn't exactly what rsdehart had in mind.
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17:43<@jfred><crowbar xmlns=...
17:43<SNy>Ah, re-reading your statement makes it clear that you meant that. Sorry.
17:43<@jfred>:P
17:44<Ikaros>I am totally resisting the joke I was thinking of when he said 'crowbar'
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17:55<user___>hola
17:57<user___>Hey I just met you and this is crazy but Im ted bundy *crowbar* lol
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19:10<Mahjongg>hi, my linode's mysql seems to be shut down. How can I find out why that might be? I am the single user
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19:21<retro|blah>SSH in and check logs.
19:22<retro|blah>/var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog is a good place to start. Look for any indications of mysql crashing, or getting killed, or similar
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20:22<psc>hi guys just want to ask why is that when I upload png files on my server using wordpress the spike of my cpu is above the threshold
20:23<psc>its more than 100% and it tends to get an error when upload comparing to jpg which doesnt have any issues when uploading
20:24<sirpengi>probably whatever wordpress (and/or wordpress plugin) is doing to post-process the file
20:24<psc>is there a way to know ?
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20:25<sirpengi>yeah, look at the code, see what plugins you have installed, see how your wordpress is set up
20:26<Peng>and read documentation
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21:49<koko>hi
21:49<+linbot>hello
21:49<koko>how to test or trial cloud
21:49<koko>for game hosting?
21:50<Kyhwana>hmm, do they still do the trial thing?
21:50<koko>y
21:51<koko>-_-
21:52<Peng>trial no, but 7 day money back guarantee yes
21:52<synapt>Pseudoly, it's a 7... that yeah
21:56<rweir>CLOUD
21:57*Peng guarantees rweir's cloud
22:00<Nivex>http://yaycloud.ytmnd.com/
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