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---Logopened Wed Aug 26 00:00:19 2015
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00:27<Eugene>Xel - got it going the first day!
00:28<Eugene>The guide doesn't take into account.... hell, I'll just make it a comment on the gist.
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00:37<dcraig>screen crashed :(
00:48<Ttech>Xel: I have a winnode
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01:23<funtoos>can u tell any managed wordpress host on linode?
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01:45<Xel>I'm thinking Linode will add a better way to spin up windows sometime soon
01:45<Xel>just make you provide the license or something
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01:54<Muthukumar>Hi linode team.. We're trying to host a solution which will have queries per second upto 50K.
01:55<Muthukumar>While checking the node balancer, it supports only 10,000 concurrent connections -- Is there any way to increase it or opt for special versions to have that support?
01:59<Xel>What exactly are you building, out of curiosity?
01:59<arlen>get more nodebalancers
02:00<Muthukumar>We're building real time bidding ad tech solution
02:00<pharaun>build a tree of nodebalancer? :P
02:00<Muthukumar>It will always hit only one domain name like bidder.test.com
02:00<Xel>And you are somehow expecting 50k/sec?
02:00<Xel>Won't that take years?
02:00<Muthukumar>Tree of nodebalancer --- please share more details.
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02:01<Muthukumar>Yes, we'll be expecting some thing in the range of 50K to start with
02:01<Xel>Wow
02:01<Naresh>hi is there anyone can assist me.
02:01<arlen>!ask
02:01<+linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient!
02:02<Muthukumar>One node balancer will be mapped to one domain name .. bidder.test.com. So to reach beyond 10K QPS / connections, how we can do that
02:02<arlen>use more nodebalancers
02:03<Muthukumar>can we use multiple node balancers pointed to same domain name?
02:03<arlen>yes you can point a domains dns to more than one nodebalancer
02:03<Muthukumar>ok sure, we'll give it a try and see.
02:04<Naresh>ok. i have platform for lead tracking same as we can say as http://www.salesforce.com currently i am runinng my lead tracking platform on Shared hosting. and it is too slow there. so i want to move here. How much ram and memory space i need.. ?.
02:04<arlen>we dont know
02:04<arlen>only you can answer that
02:07<Kyhwana>How long is a peice of string?
02:08<arlen>potato
02:08<Kyhwana>tomato
02:08<Xel>I feel like we're getting trolled
02:08<Muthukumar>@arlen, if we're setting up 5 node balancers and pointing all of them to bidder.test.com (Example). how the 50K queries/connections be distributed.
02:08<Muthukumar>Will it be sticky based on something or round robin or weighted average or DNS resolution?
02:08<arlen>with dns
02:09<Muthukumar>DNS will be cached at client end i suppose. Then all of them will be trying to hit the same node balancer again n again?
02:09<arlen>maybe
02:09<arlen>maybe not
02:11<Muthukumar>It will be great if you can give more details since we'll not be load balancing in case of DNS cache
02:11<pharaun>eh
02:11<pharaun>how many clients are there
02:13<Muthukumar>We can say 5000 clients making 50K concurrent connections
02:13<arlen>there's no secret option to increase the number of concurrent connections a nodebalancer will accept, so your only option is to have more than one and use dns, or find a different solution.
02:14<Muthukumar>ok, thanks
02:15<Kyhwana>hmm, when will the linode loadbalancers do http2?
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02:24<Naresh>How can i see future log for chat
02:24<Naresh>Sorry past..
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02:25<avenj>I
02:25<avenj>Well.
02:25<dcraig>I can mostly predict what the chat will be like in here
02:25<avenj>true
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02:41<praetorian>I went back to the future.
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03:34<asd>hi
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04:06<tr0gd0r>Oops
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04:52<jos>Hi does Linode provide Dedicated servers, or only VPS ?
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04:53<Kyhwana>Only VPS
04:53<jos>ok
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04:54<jos>I can see the plans here: https://www.linode.com/pricing
04:54<jos>What is the maximum transfer allowed per month ?
04:54<Kyhwana>It says it there
04:55<jos>oh I m sorry, I missed it.
04:59<+linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Problem with Crontab <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12208&p=68273#p68273>
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05:00<jos>Is Digital Ocean better than Linode in performance ? We are planning to install ond configure an Email Marketer software in it. Please suggest. Thanks.
05:01<Kyhwana>I've found CPU seems better on linoe than DO
05:02<jos>I have seen that for the same price (ex: $80), I will get more cores in Linode.
05:02<jos>And data transfer is also more.
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07:51<Leo_>Hey guys..
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07:59<jos>Hello, Will Linode detect my VPS and IP address as a spam generator, if I install Interspire Email Marketer in my linode VPS and sending out emails at the rate of 4000 per hour ? Is there any such spam checking policy for Linode ?
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07:59<frankatdino>Hi Chaps. We're using linode for most of our hosting, but one of our clients has popped up and said that before we can use linode for their website, you chaps would have to complete an IT security due diligence process. Can you point me at who would answer that (I've assumed that you'd be willing to do so: this may not be the case).
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08:01<akerl>jos: If you're sending spam, Linode will stop you from sending spam
08:02<akerl>frankatdino: linode.com/contact
08:03<jos>We won't send spams, but we will send legitimate (authenticate with SMTP) Advertisement emails of Events, Meetings etc. So please suggest based on that.
08:04<frankatdino>akerl: are you directing me to email support?
08:06<akerl>frankatdino: That or open a ticket
08:06<akerl>We're the user community
08:06<frankatdino>ok, no worries, cheers for assist.
08:07<akerl>jos: Uh huh
08:08<akerl>jos: My suggestion is as previously given: If you send spam, Linode is going to stop you from sending spam, and since from their end, they aren't DPIing your emails, that usually means at the minimum blocking SMTP traffic by shutting off the valve on port 25. If you're not sending spam, you've got nothing to worry about
08:08<akerl>Amusingly, Linode is only one of a whole collection of entities who apply similar policies, the rest of them just do it on the receiving end by blacklisting your IP as a spam source
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08:11<jos>akerl, I am worried about the volume of the emails: 4000 per hour. Is this will cause the DPIing (spam source) ? What about if it is reduced to 1000 per hour ?
08:12<jos>Sorry for the above message
08:12<akerl>The issue is not quantity, it is quality
08:13<akerl>It doesn't matter if you send 10 or 10,000, whether or not Linode steps in depends on if they're spam
08:14<jos>ok, so the quantity doesn't matter. But the quality - depends on SMTP authentication , proper DNS records etc, Correct ?
08:15<akerl>ffs
08:15<hawk>jos: I would interpret the quality to have more to do with how the recipient addresses ended up in the system. Ie, will they be complaining that you are sending them unsolicited stuff or not?
08:15<akerl>^-
08:17<jos>We have a subscribing/ unsubscribing system to collect valid recepient email ids.
08:18<Nivex>I used to work for a "permission-based email marketing firm". It was amazing how the rules on what constituted permission got warped once the money started flowing. I lasted a year.
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10:30<+linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Problem with Logrotate <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12208&p=68273#p68273>
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10:40<+linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Problem with Logrotate <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12208&p=68274#p68274>
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11:20<Ttech>Is it possible currently to share ipv6 range between two linodes in the same datacenter?
11:22<akerl>Depends what type of range it is and what you mean by "share"
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11:31<+linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Multi Domain Website On Two Linode VPS Nginx Server <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=12197&p=68275#p68275>
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12:43<Lockedout>I need to private chat with someone about my account...
12:44<psandin>you need a support ticket
12:44<Peng>Or you need to call them on the phone or email support@linode.com.
12:46<Ttech>Ended up trying that new network auto configuration thingy, it creates a config file with all my ipv4 addresses including the internal dc address. But... it doesn't come up.
12:46<Ttech>Seems like a systemd problem. :( But its systemd so debugging is a bit difficult
12:46<akerl>What?
12:47<akerl>journalctl bro
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12:53<Ttech>Well, huh, its still using dhcpd
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12:54<oktaydegerli>hello there
12:54<+linbot>hello
12:54<oktaydegerli>i've 4 servers running and each of them have 2tb xfer
12:55<oktaydegerli>but i see my total quota is 4000gb.. why is that?
12:55<oktaydegerli>it says "1GB Used, 3422GB Remaining, 3423GB Quota"
12:55<akerl>It's prorated
12:55<@caker>transfer is pooled together; and it's also pro-rated. So, you don't get 2TB if you add a Linode with only 3 days remaining in the month...
12:55<@caker>(but you will the next full month)
12:56<oktaydegerli>so i'll have 8tb bandwidth if i use them full month?
12:57<oktaydegerli>ok i understood what u mean i think
12:57<oktaydegerli>i've 60gb around bandwidth each day then?
12:57<akerl>Transfer, and sure, if you want to use it evenly
12:58<akerl>Or you have 8TB on day one and then you've hit your quota
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12:59<oktaydegerli>ok thanks
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14:50<kcaj>resolver03.london isn't responding to queries over IPv6
14:55<@jfred>kcaj: Could you dig against its v6 address and pastebin the output? Looks like it's working for me - https://gist.github.com/jfrederickson/8c709c4c64a956298088
14:55<kcaj>Yeh it's back now
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15:24<ruban>hi.
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16:27<Eugene>tr0gd0r - no PMs, please.
16:27<tr0gd0r>Oh Im sorry
16:27<Eugene>BSOD on boot is indicative of missing drivers; I had a lot of issues getting it going initially because of the specific need for virtio-scsi
16:28<tr0gd0r>as oopsed to viostor?
16:28<tr0gd0r>opposed*
16:28<Eugene>Yeah
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16:28<Eugene>Hence the specific virt-install command
16:28<tr0gd0r>I was able to get it to boot using full virtualization
16:29<Eugene>Yup, because that uses the legacy IDE/PIIX driver set
16:29<tr0gd0r>Im trying again once more with the newer virtio drivers just for fun
16:29<Eugene>You lose a bit of I/O performance(theoretically...) over virtio, but I don't care enough
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16:31<tr0gd0r>so Linode is using virtio-scsi instead of viostor, thats interesting
16:31<Eugene>Yeah, a bit annoying.
16:31<tr0gd0r>I am just hoping we get the ability to upload our own ISOs soon
16:31<Eugene>I've suggested/requested it as well. There is a rumour that Gish is coming, but no sign of it yet
16:32<Eugene>FWIW, `dmidecode` should show the same drivers on your source KVM guest and the destination Linode.
16:32<Eugene>The disk+network ones being the most important
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16:34<tr0gd0r>I have gish on my linode
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16:34<tr0gd0r>I can see windows booting up
16:34<tr0gd0r>then see the BSOD
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16:35<tr0gd0r>So you have a working Windows using Virtio running right now? or only using full virtualization?
16:35<Eugene>Oh, wow, when did Glish happen
16:35<Eugene>That makes it a /lot/ easier
16:36<Eugene>I have a full virtio going, yeah.
16:36<Eugene>With Glish, you don't need to do any farting about with a source KVM guest
16:36<Eugene>All you have to do is convert the ISO into a disk.img, then upload that
16:38<Eugene>Today, apparently. Neat.
16:38<tr0gd0r>where do I upload the img?
16:38<Eugene>You would create a Raw disk image and dd it up
16:38<tr0gd0r>I tried that
16:38<tr0gd0r>Wouldnt boot because it said the disk didnt have an MBR
16:39<Eugene>You can't dd the ISO directly; you need to convert it to a bootable HD img
16:39<tr0gd0r>oh okay
16:39<Eugene>Like if you were making a bootable USB stick
16:39<Eugene>I don't have a one-liner handy for that, sorry
16:39<tr0gd0r>I was reading an article that said you could do dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb
16:39<tr0gd0r>for an ubuntu iso
16:39<tr0gd0r>figured it would work for a windows ISO as well
16:39<Eugene>Nope, syslinux uses a magic dual-mode header for that trick. MS hasn't learned that yet
16:40<tr0gd0r>So I have made bootable usb drives in Windows using the ISO, but never from linux
16:40<tr0gd0r>I will have to research that
16:40<Eugene>You ought to be able to do it by making a loopback device, formatting+mounting as NTFS with the bootable flag set, and then extracting the ISO into it
16:40<Eugene>But that's not one I've done either
16:41<tr0gd0r>NTFS on Linux isnt great
16:41<Eugene>I know.
16:41<tr0gd0r>But you should be able to do a FAT32 partition
16:41<tr0gd0r>thats what I do on Windows at least
16:41<Eugene>Probably. Loopback devices are fiddly with being partitioned is the bigger issue
16:41<Eugene>If nothing else, make a USB stick on a Windows box, plug it into a linux machine, and then dd that
16:41<tr0gd0r>exactly what I was thinking
16:42*Celti has never successfully made a Windows USB on a Linux box
16:42<Celti>always have to borrow someone's Windows box and use that
16:42<tr0gd0r>I will start doing that now and will report back with results
16:42<Eugene>Wow, Glish is nifty. http://i.imgur.com/Dxk6WcD.png
16:42<Celti>(borrow because one of my own is NEVER handy when I need one)
16:42<tr0gd0r>I will post the img file too
16:42<Eugene>Remember to copy the virtio drives into the Fat32 fs
16:42<tr0gd0r>server 2016?
16:43<Eugene>That's probably technically illegal ;-)
16:43<tr0gd0r>I wont include any license keys with it
16:43<Eugene>That is a Server 2012 R2 Core machine
16:43<tr0gd0r>So with EMS can you do anything you could do on the command line?
16:43<tr0gd0r>I have never used EMS before
16:43<Eugene>It's been a while since I've read the license agreement, but AFAIK distribution of modified media is a no-go
16:44<Eugene>EMS is a kernel interface. You can have it generate a cmd shell and then login to cmd.exe
16:44<Eugene>And from there, powershell or whatever
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17:00<hercules>hello
17:00<kcaj>hello hercules
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17:09<hercules>hello
17:10<Peng>Hi
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17:25<Eugene>tr0gd0r - it looks like you should be able to create+partition a disk directly from Rescue Mode, mkfs.ntfs it, then rsync the ISO contents into it.
17:26<Eugene>Select that as your boot device and go
17:26<Eugene>After windows install you'll need to change install devices to the actual C:\ disk image
17:32<tr0gd0r>once I rsync the files, do I need to add an MBR?
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17:34<tr0gd0r>I am in the process of dd'ing from my USB bootable windows drive to rescue mode
17:34<tr0gd0r>If that doesnt work Ill try your method above
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18:06<Eugene>I'll also get drunk and try it myself later tonight
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18:08<tr0gd0r>Eugene: I was able to get the Installer to boot
18:09<Eugene>Nice
18:09<tr0gd0r>however I cannot load the drivers since the installer doesnt have the drivers built in
18:09<tr0gd0r>clicking the button to browse to a driver doesnt list the install drive
18:09<Eugene>D'oh
18:09<Eugene>That ought to have been obvious, heh
18:09<tr0gd0r>I need to slipstream the drivers into the actual installer
18:09<Eugene>Try it in Full-virt mode?
18:09<tr0gd0r>I could try that.
18:10<tr0gd0r>Could I then switch to para-virt after installing?
18:10<tr0gd0r>And not get a bsod
18:10<Eugene>I fiddled around with doing an autounattend install, so it could be all-text. I got nowhere with WIM repacking and gave up
18:10<Eugene>Maybe. I haven't tried it
18:10<tr0gd0r>I just need to slipstream the drivers into the wim
18:10<tr0gd0r>then I would have no problems
18:10<Eugene>Yeah. I couldn't get that to work with linux tools
18:10<Eugene>And I don't have enough liquor to use the windows tools
18:11<tr0gd0r>Im a Windows sysadmin by trade so I have the tools
18:11<Eugene>Makes sense.
18:11<Eugene>I wouldn't worry about para- vs full-virt, anyway. The I/O hit will be minimal compared to the baseline performance level(from SSDs)
18:11<tr0gd0r>it would all be so much easier once they allow iso uploads
18:11<Eugene>maybe when proper ISO support is added ;-)
18:11<Eugene>Jinx
18:12<Cromulent>since you guys are talking about Windows do you know if there is a Windows Server developer edition for making server side software on Windows like the developer edition of SQL Server?
18:12<Cromulent>I don't mind spending some money on a Windows Server license but I don't need a full license since its just for testing really
18:15<Eugene>Not a clue.
18:15<Eugene>I get all my keys from MSDN :-p
18:16<Cromulent>my boss did mention the possibility of me getting an MSDN subscription a few months ago - might be worth pushing for it a bit harder :)
18:16<Cromulent>but I'm mainly a Linux guy so Windows is totally foreign to me
18:17<Eugene>If somebody else at your company has one, just get them to give you some keys
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18:20<Eugene>Interesting. glish doesn't work in Rescue mode, but it /does/ work when you set up Finnix in a Configuration Profile.
18:20<Eugene>Not sure if bug
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18:39<ctpdump>umm, wait, what?
18:39<ctpdump>glish?
18:39<Eugene>Yeah, it's live but not announced
18:39<Eugene>Should make Winoding much easier
18:40<ctpdump>hmm.. I get a lot of squares
18:41<ctpdump>ah, took a few attempts to start
18:41<Eugene>I've noticed its a bit touchy
18:41<ctpdump>seems to work for a linode but the winode hangs at 'starting vnc handshake'
18:42<Eugene>Mine worked fine first try
18:42<Eugene>I don't have any KVM Linux nodes....
18:42<ctpdump>and now it says your linode is powered off :) (it's not!)
18:42<Eugene>http://i.imgur.com/Dxk6WcD.png
18:42<Eugene>It may also take a reboot for the VGA device to be attached properly
18:43<ctpdump>ah, that may be right
18:43<ctpdump>cool
18:44<Peng>If you'll forgive brief off-topic-ness: my up, down and backslash keys just stopped working. o_o Linux being weird, or old laptop dying oddly?
18:44<Eugene>Sounds like you've got a dead column in the PCB
18:44<Scub>Sounds like you've got an apple product
18:45<Peng>Eugene: PCB? As in the keyboard hradware?
18:45<Eugene>Keyboards are wired in rows/columns; they detect keypresses based on simple algebra of the resistance across these
18:45<Eugene>Yup.
18:45<Eugene>If you have a cut trace, a line of keys will stop working(or REALLY work, depending)
18:46<Eugene>Buy a new keyboard module on eBay for $8
18:48<Peng>Any chance it's some sort of 'potato chip crumb fell somewhere' thhing?
18:48<Eugene>Can't hurt much to blow it out
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18:51<ctpdump>if it's affecting those particular keys I'd also confirm Eugene's suspicion regarding the dead column
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18:52<tr0gd0r>Eugene: Glish works for me in rescue mode
18:52<Peng>Interesting -- and, obviously, annoying as heck -- to have a column just drop dead in front of me.
18:53<Eugene>May just have been a glistch
18:54<tr0gd0r>Eugene: I was succesful in getting the drivers loaded into the wim and the install is progressing now
18:54<Eugene>Shiny
18:54<tr0gd0r>We will see if it BSODs on first boot
18:54<tr0gd0r>I loaded both the viostor and scsi driver
18:55<Eugene>You'll probably need to edit the Profile after the "Rebooting..." step to exclude the installer image
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19:14<tr0gd0r>Well it was not successful. I am getting an error that says no bootable device found when it reboots
19:15<tr0gd0r>I changed the boot drive in the profile
19:15<Eugene>Sounds like it installed the bootloader wrong
19:15<Eugene>What did you have as the first drive before?
19:16<Eugene>Maybe try adding the installer drive back in
19:18<tr0gd0r>I installed with the hard disk as sda and the installer disk as sdb
19:18<tr0gd0r>then I remove sdb and set it to boot from sda
19:18<Eugene>Hmm.
19:18<tr0gd0r>and it says no bootable drive found. :(
19:18<Eugene>For a laugh, try `dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=446` from Rescue mode, then boot with only sda
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19:25<ctpdump>haha, that made me chuckle indeed ;)
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19:25<ctpdump>it wouldn't surprise me for windows to always expect the bootdrive to be the "first" drive (sda) and the optical drive to be somewhere afterwards
19:26<ctpdump>wait, nevermind, I read it backwards
19:27<ctpdump>I'll go sit in a corner now
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19:32<tr0gd0r>success. I manually ran the dism and diskpart commands to install windows rather than using the installer
19:33<tr0gd0r>I think you are right about it installing the bootloader on the wrong drive, your command would have worked too, I bet
19:33<Eugene>Weird
19:33<tr0gd0r>Because the install drive was a hard drive and not a cd rom
19:33<Eugene>Yeah.
19:34<tr0gd0r>sure enough they are using the scsi pass through controller
19:35<tr0gd0r>When I was building the image on my machine before dd'ing it, I was used the other controller
19:35<tr0gd0r>thats what caused the bsod
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19:44<tr0gd0r>http://i.imgur.com/VcxWG6U.png
19:44<tr0gd0r>Not bad
19:45<Eugene>Shiny.
19:45<Eugene>What did you do to slipstream the drivers?
19:47<tr0gd0r>I used DISM gui on a windows box
19:47<tr0gd0r>You mount the wim file then add the drivers, then unmount it
19:47<Eugene>Shiny.
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20:08<zadr>hello! i’m running into a bit of a problem. i can’t seem to ssh into my linode vps, whether it be via ip or lish. i _can_ log in with the ajax console without any problems though.
20:09<zadr>wait. i can’t ssh into anything else. doubt the problem’s anything to do with linode now. sorry for the useless drop-in!
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20:12<tr0gd0r>eugene: Its a shame that Linode limits images to 2GB since Id like to save this image to deploy to a bunch of linodes :(
20:12<Eugene>The base system image? Or the installer?
20:13<Eugene>In either case, just Clone it.
20:13<Eugene>It'll cost you a bit of disk space
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20:14<Peng>if it was only 1 bit, Images could handle it :O
20:14<Eugene>Shush
20:21<tr0gd0r>Can I save the clone with no linodes running?
20:21<tr0gd0r>Like if I want to fire up a windows linode for a day then shut it down, then bring it up again a week later
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20:26<Peng>No, Eugene meant having it as en existing secondary image on some VPS.
20:26<Peng>as an exis*
20:26<Eugene>As a disk image that isn't assigned to the Profile
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21:25<Sage905>Hello. Are there any linode staffers in here, or just users?
21:30<arlen>this is the user community but there are staff that idle
21:30<arlen>if you need official support you should open a ticket, email, or call
21:30<Sage905>I opened a ticket, and was extremely underwhelmed.
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21:31<Sage905>I just migrated to kvm, and now I can no longer make outbound connections.
21:31<arlen>weird
21:32<Sage905>Indeed.
21:32<arlen>time to boot into rescue mode :D
21:32<Sage905>The tech responded that: Thank you for contacting us at Linode! It seems your web server is off, either that or you have a firewall rule blocking connections
21:32<Sage905>I did boot into rescue mode.
21:33<Sage905>Still can't make outbound connections.
21:34<Sage905>I think the host I got migrated to is hosed. Going to try to upgrade the package, to see if it moves my vm to a different host.
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21:36<akerl>lol
21:36<akerl>Sage905: How did you determine you can't make outbound connections?
21:36<Sage905>ping 8.8.8.8
21:37<Sage905>Works fine.
21:37<Sage905>dig google.com @8.8.8.8
21:37<Sage905>times out
21:37<Sage905>wget to an IP times out
21:37<akerl>So... you can make outbound connections, just not that particular outbound connection
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21:37<Sage905>dig to any of the Linode DNS servers fails
21:37<akerl>pastebin `ip addr` and `ip route` and `iptables-save`
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21:37<Sage905>Can't at the moment. Migrating
21:38<akerl>Ah, yes, the time honored way to waste time in between troubleshooting
21:38<Sage905>But here's some output I pasted in my ticket: http://pastebin.com/DD9iPgTz
21:38<akerl>"Maybe if I take my config that doesn't work and move it 3 feet to the left, it'll be better"
21:38<retro|blah>iptables: Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: security raw nat mangle filter [FAILED]
21:38<Sage905>akerl: Sometimes, when you've tried everything you know, you have to try waving the dead chicken.
21:39<retro|blah>So iptables wasn't actually stopped. Did you investigate that?
21:39<akerl>retro|blah: That's the security table
21:39<Sage905>I completely removed the iptables config and rebooted. Still nothing.
21:39<akerl>the centos initscripts were written by somebody who never imagined somebody would run a custom kernel
21:40<arlen>does that paste not show a successful ping to 8.8.8.8?
21:40<Sage905>I should point out that this was working without issue before the migration.
21:41<akerl>If I had a nickel for every time somebody claimed the migration caused an issue and it was really something on their system that was exposed when it rebooted, I would no longer need to make nickel-based analogies
21:41<akerl>because I would be rich
21:41<akerl>Because that's what pretty much always turns out to be the case
21:41<Sage905>Agreed.
21:41<Sage905>And yet, I can't find the cause.
21:41<arlen>pebkac
21:41<akerl>You don't appear to have even looked at the full netfilter
21:41<akerl>Just that one table
21:41<Sage905>What would cause ping 8.8.8.8 to work, and dig google.com @8.8.8.8 to not work.
21:42<Sage905>As I stated, I deleted the iptables config in /etc/sysconfig/iptables and rebooted
21:42<akerl>And nothing else on your system talks to netfilter?
21:42<akerl>and you checked everything else on your system to confirm that?
21:42<Sage905>Not that I am aware of.
21:43<Sage905>I don't rule it out, but if it does, it was not because I asked it to.
21:43<Sage905>Hm... wait... fail2ban.
21:43<akerl>Oh, fail2ban. Making systems shittier without improving security since 1990
21:43<akerl>or whenever fail2ban was released.
21:43<akerl>It's not super relevant to the point
21:44<Sage905>fail2ban limits brute-force attacks. And I'm not here to argue it's relevance to your use-cases.
21:44<akerl>(:
21:45<Sage905>Booting after the upgrade... Let's see...
21:45<Sage905>I fear you will be correct, but it still leaves me puzzled.
21:46<Sage905>Even the Rescue boot didn't give me network connectivity.
21:46<akerl>...
21:46<akerl>So ping -c5 8.8.8.8 fails?
21:46<Sage905>ping works fine
21:46<akerl>so you have network connectivity
21:47<Sage905>Yes.
21:47<Sage905>I'm just unable to initiate outbound connections.
21:47<akerl>what do you think "ping" is doing?
21:47<Sage905>I can ssh inbound to the server just fine.
21:47<Sage905>Specifically?
21:48<akerl>If ping 8.8.8.8 works, then you have made an outbound connection
21:48<Sage905>Ping is sending a packet with the type set to ICMP to my destination and reporting the receipt of an ICMP packet from that host.
21:48<Sage905>It is NOT making a connection
21:48<akerl>:|
21:48<akerl>It's making just as much of a "connection" as your dig
21:49<Sage905>Perhaps.
21:49<Sage905>Since DNS is UDP and stateless.
21:49<akerl>No way
21:49<Kyhwana>So where's the pastebin of iptables -n -L -v ?
21:49<akerl>Kyhwana: Shhhhh
21:50<retro|blah>What do "ip addr", "ip route" show?
21:50<akerl>though -save would be better, since there's all those other fun tables
21:50<Sage905>This is weird...
21:50<Sage905>I have disabled iptables, yet I still get this:
21:50<Sage905> nf_conntrack: automatic helper assignment is deprecated and it will be removed soon. Use the iptables CT target to attach helpers instead.
21:50<akerl>"disabling iptables" is not a thing
21:50<akerl>Well, it is, but you didn't do it
21:50<Sage905>Sorry... I have: chkconfig iptables off
21:51<Sage905>:P
21:51<akerl>Yes
21:51<akerl>This would be much more expedient if rather than try to fathom the nature of kernel-land network rules you pastebined iptables-save as well as ip addr and ip route
21:51<Sage905>http://pastebin.com/g8LdnVTj
21:52<Sage905>http://pastebin.com/vCV7rq4B
21:52<Sage905>http://pastebin.com/sckXKFPX
21:52<Sage905>http://pastebin.com/eG6bvdPz
21:53*Sage905 waits for enlightenment
21:54<retro|blah>Break out tcpdump and then do your dig test. See if the reply is coming back to you over the wire
21:55<Kyhwana>Sage905: so "lynx http://google.com" doesn't work?
21:55<akerl>You haven't had any tickets opened on your account recently, have you
21:55<akerl>Anything like "You're doing a DNS ampification attack against some grandma's cat blog" or similar?
21:55<Sage905>No
21:55<akerl>You're really really sure?
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21:56<Sage905>https://www.dropbox.com/s/269vtkfp6ujt11e/Screenshot%202015-08-26%2021.56.12.png?dl=0
21:56<Sage905>Next question?
21:57<Kyhwana>Sage905: well, time to break out tcpdump and lynx again
21:58<Sage905>Seriously?
21:59<arlen>yup
21:59<retro|blah>What part are you saying "seriously" to?
21:59<akerl>You're asking if we seriously are suggesting you investigate why your system can't make the requests you want to make?
22:02<Sage905>So, for fun, I ran tcpdump.
22:02<Sage905>I see lots of outbound requests to udp port 53
22:02<akerl>mhm
22:02<Sage905>I see absolutely 0 inbound packets on that port
22:02<akerl>yes
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22:03<Kyhwana>You're not running ufw or anything like that are you?
22:03<Sage905>On CentOS 6.5? No
22:03<Sage905>Hm. Interesting.
22:03<Sage905>In one of my previous tests, I was unable to wget from an address.
22:03<Sage905>Now, wget works.
22:03<Sage905>So it looks like it's just DNS that isn't responding.
22:04<akerl>Well yes
22:04<akerl>I figured that was obvious from the fact that SSHing to it works but takes forever to get a prompt
22:04<akerl>because sshd is frantically trying to make the reverse lookup
22:04<Sage905>Well, inbound ssh worked.
22:04<Sage905>I never tried outbound ssh.
22:05<Sage905>I was presuming a firewall related issue.
22:05<HoopyCat>what IP address(es) is/are the packets seemingly going to?
22:05<akerl>My money is still on dns amplification
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22:06<retro|blah>It would've been blindingly obvious if an abuse ticket had been opened though
22:06<akerl>retro|blah: You might be surprised how many people don't notice abuse tickets
22:06<akerl>the red box is so easy to miss :P
22:06<akerl>And some folks have restricted accounts and don't get the privilege
22:08<Sage905>I have had abuse tickets opened on me before.
22:08<Sage905>I had an SNMP one on another account.
22:08<HoopyCat>i had my first one this weekend
22:08<Sage905>I dealt with it in less than half an hour.
22:08<Sage905>This is not my first rodeo.
22:09<Sage905>And DNS was working perfectly before the KVM upgrade.
22:09<akerl>Oh
22:09<akerl>Well in that case lets stop the investigation
22:09<akerl>culprit identifid
22:09<Sage905>Perhaps the MAC address of my host changed to one that was tagged for abuse prior?
22:10<akerl>No
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22:31<Sage905>The plot thickens: http://pastebin.com/9f3ArTzH
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22:48<zifnab>oO glish
22:56<Eugene>glish!
22:57<Eugene>Praying for ISO support next.
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23:01<Sage905>Grr... Something is eating all my outbound UDP packets.
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23:03<stuff>hi
23:03<stuff>I just created my server and I was able to login with the root password I set
23:03<stuff>now I try ssh'ing in and it says incorrect password
23:03<stuff>I've tried resetting the root password twice using the Linode dashboard
23:03<stuff>still unable to gain access to my machine... what's going on?
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23:04<retro|blah>What are you SSHing into specifically?
23:04<stuff>my Linode server
23:04<stuff>into the IP
23:04<stuff>that I was just in
23:04<stuff>and I exitted out, and now when I try to SSH I get incorrect password...
23:05<stuff>I'm copy pasting the password, the same as I did the first time I was in my server
23:05<retro|blah>Try logging into your server's console via LISH and see if (1) you're able to log into console with that password, (2) your auth logs show anything.
23:05<retro|blah>!lish
23:05<+linbot>LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-shell-lish
23:05<stuff>I tried LISH, same thing... incorrect password
23:06<retro|blah>Also, what user are you SSHing in as?
23:06<stuff>root, since I just built this server
23:08<Kyhwana>stuff: Sure you were entering the password correctly into lish? (is deny root logins via ssh set?)
23:08<stuff>no it is not set, and yes
23:08<retro|blah>I would suggest you reboot to rescue mode, mount your disks and then see what your logs say. You can also chroot into the installation and change the password that way, and/or check any other configs necessary
23:09<stuff>I'll go ahead and do that. I'm just confused as to why a fresh install just rejects my root password
23:10<stuff>after accepting it
23:10<stuff>and nothing changing
23:10<stuff>except hostname, but that's not relevant
23:16<zifnab>Eugene: is it enough to just dd the iso to a drive?
23:16<zifnab>er, disk image
23:16<Eugene>No.
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23:16<Eugene>I wasn't able to get it to work, even with my tricks.
23:17<zifnab>strange
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23:17<Eugene>I'm mostly just being lazy.
23:17<zifnab>i'm assuming you tried the flash drive approach
23:17<Eugene>Previously, yes.
23:17<zifnab>and i'm also assuming you did that correctly and had the bootsect /nt60 thingy
23:18<Eugene>Nope, I used the windows tool that does it
23:18<zifnab>ah
23:18<zifnab>then dd'd it?
23:18<Eugene>Yup.
23:18<zifnab>should have been ok then
23:18<zifnab>unless mbr is fucked up somehow, or windows made it a gpt drive?
23:18<Eugene>Didn't do that today; was trying to do it 90% in Finnix
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23:25<Sage905>DNS just started magically working.
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23:39<Peng>Congratulations. That's disturbing.
23:39<Peng>When things Start Magically Working, it doesn't mean the gremlins are gone, just that the gremlins are teasing you.
23:44<Sage905>s/teasing/taunting/
23:46<Sage905>Ah... Not so much gremlins, as a PEBCAK. But not between my keyboard and chair...
23:46<Sage905>" It's strange that this issue came up after the upgrade, but after poking around I was able to see that there was a filtering rule in place - I was able to remove it and restart your networking and you should see things working soon."
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23:46<Peng>yeah, filtering rules grow all over my network all the time
23:46<Peng>I have to get weed killer all the time
23:46<dwfreed>probably left over from an abuse ticket
23:48<Sage905>Yes.
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23:48<Sage905>The tech thinks that the person cleared the filter, and didn't clear the saved version
23:49<Sage905>So, akerl, you'll have to put this in the rare list of times that the crazy dead-chicken-waving guy was right. It did happen as a result of my upgrade to kvm, and it wasn't my fault. ;)
23:49<arlen>so hours ago when someone mentioned about old abuse tickets
23:50<Sage905>Yes... But there were no old abuse tickets that were open.
23:50<Sage905>That ticket was months ago.
23:50<Sage905>And it was closed.
23:50<arlen>so
23:50<Sage905>But not properly handled by Linode.
23:50<arlen>the question was still valid, and you said no
23:51<arlen>could've had this fixed hours ago
23:51<Sage905>lol
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23:51<Sage905>You're one of those people that doesn't like to admit any mistakes, aren't you? ;)
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23:52<arlen>nope
23:52<arlen>but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything
23:53<Sage905>It wouldn't have "fixed" anything hours ago. I still needed to work through the ticket with Linode until they found the problem.
23:53<Sage905>I asked them if it was a filter shortly after opening the ticket.
23:54<Sage905>At any rate, you were right that it was related to an abuse ticket.
23:54<arlen>I'm not the one that suggested it
23:54<Sage905>Oh, sorry.
23:54<Sage905>arlen and akerl are very similar named.
23:54<Peng>the ghost of abuse ticket past :O
23:54<arlen>I have an L in my nick
23:55<arlen>aker1 doesn't
23:55<Sage905>Anywho... I do appreciate the efforts of folks here.
23:55<Sage905>I even understand the condescending approach. I find myself falling into that, too, with tiresome people.
23:55<Peng>It sucks that it's hard to believe zebras when they actually happen.
23:56<Sage905>And... my biggest failing is that I enjoy a good argument more than the average person. :)
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23:56<arlen>I don't like arguments
23:56<Sage905>So, when someone comes at me swinging their intellectual organ, I tend to swing back. :)
23:56<arlen>better things to do with my time
23:56<Sage905>I'm better now, than when I was younger.
23:57<Sage905>Though I still really enjoy a good debate.
23:57<Sage905>Anyway. Thanks again. :)
23:57<arlen>I enjoy debates too
23:58<arlen>but I don't consider that arguing.
23:58<Sage905>I appreciate the fact that there are people here, hanging out, willing to answer questions.
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