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---Logopened Wed Oct 11 00:00:34 2017
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01:05<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel
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01:09*dcraig tickles guest6483 around a bit with a large torpedo
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01:11<dwfreed>...that shouldn't have happened
01:12<Zimsky>but it did :D
01:13<dcraig>bro got heptaguested
01:13<dwfreed>my guess would be he spammed the release command too fast
01:14*dwfreed looks at the SVSNICK implementation
01:16<dwfreed>yep, that's what I thought, no requirement of TS knowledge
01:18<dcraig>gadzooks!
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01:19<Zimsky> /* XXX */
01:19<Zimsky> uplink = uplink;
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01:19<Zimsky>okaythen
01:19<rsdehart>rip
01:20<dwfreed>Zimsky: where is that?
01:20<Zimsky>dwfreed: https://github.com/oftc/oftc-ircservices/blob/7e6d31cdf13e1bac5c97a2c1d2dbcee3778a4352/modules/oftc.c#L622
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01:21<moblabs>I'm sure you're flooded with requests - but any ETA on the restoration of the freemont hosts? linode manager is suffering under the traffic too I think
01:22<dcraig>something's up in fremont?
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01:23<moblabs>I have several hosts involuntarily "stopped" - now shoing this message on linode manager "An issue affecting the physical host this Linode resides on has been detected."
01:23<Peng_>:(
01:23<dcraig>uh oh
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01:24<gnarbarian>problems?
01:24<dwfreed>yes
01:24<gnarbarian>my buddy sent me here to ask because his linode irc client is down xD
01:25<Peng_>Is it in Fremont?
01:25<dwfreed>presumably, given he is
01:25<gnarbarian>jersey
01:25<dwfreed>oh
01:25<Peng_>:O
01:25<dwfreed>what's the IP?
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01:26<gnarbarian>173.255.245.79
01:26<dwfreed>(also, fwiw, there's a webchat: https://webchat.oftc.net/)
01:26<Peng_>You're the first to mention a Newark issue. Anything's possible, i guess.
01:26<gnarbarian>system went down. no email. won't get back up
01:26<dwfreed>that's in fremont
01:26<dwfreed>also is up
01:26<dwfreed>(up in that it responds to ping)
01:27<gnarbarian>bastard may just have not waited long enough
01:27<dwfreed>hehe
01:27<gnarbarian>before he blew me up on hangouts
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01:28<gnarbarian>thanks for the webchat link
01:28<gnarbarian>I tried to send him to mibbit already.
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01:29<gnarbarian>he's back. thanks dwfreed Peng_
01:29<dwfreed>OFTC and freenode both ban mibbit
01:30<gnarbarian>that's why I run thelounge on my linode
01:30<gnarbarian>it's like my personal IRCcloud
01:30<gnarbarian>lol I actually have a login for him I forgot about
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01:30<gnarbarian>should have sent him to me
01:30<Zimsky>irccloud is terrible
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01:31<Zimsky>you have chosen well
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01:31<gnarbarian>I used to use irssi but this is much much nicer
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01:34<dcraig>mirc4lyfe
01:35<Peng_>Get out
01:35<gnarbarian>I used to use microsoftscript get off my lawn
01:35<gnarbarian>had built in ddos macros. was awesome
01:35<gnarbarian>we
01:35<gnarbarian>well
01:35<gnarbarian>just dos
01:35<Zimsky>who doesn't love ddos macros
01:35<gnarbarian>not ddos since it only came from you
01:36<gnarbarian>hey it was the bomb for blasting dialup users off the channel with my 512k cable modem in 98
01:36*Peng_ shakes head
01:36<Zimsky>lol
01:37<gnarbarian>don't even get me started about sub7
01:37<Zimsky>wasn't planning to
01:38<dcraig>I can usually make people sign off irc just by talking to them
01:38<gnarbarian>good. I'm going to continue drinking and reading. why am I still here?
01:38*gnarbarian scurries off
01:38<Peng_>Good night :)
01:38<Zimsky>dcraig: same
01:42<dcraig>the ol' verbal ddos :D
01:45<moblabs>bak now thank you
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01:50<petem>I have a linode stuck on reboot for > 40m after a resize and support hasn't really been helpful
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01:50<Peng_>Dallas?
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01:51<poky>Somebody please help me with this - https://bpaste.net/show/77e47e77def8
01:51<poky>Tried so many forums online, no help.
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01:52<linbot>New news from status: Service Issues - Linode Manager Jobs in Dallas <https://status.linode.com/incidents/vg3yxz8dsvvd>
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01:52<dwfreed>Zimsky: so having looked at the disassembly of that code, in theory it is completely meaningless
01:52<Zimsky>in theory.
01:53<Toba_>poky, you should try actually saying what problem you are facing
01:53<Toba_>just pasting logs is like posting half a crappy riddle
01:53<poky>This is WordPress. All my wordpress sites are producing that error.
01:53<poky>While my MySQL is up and running.
01:54<dwfreed>Zimsky: I mean, gdb shows no code associated with the statement itself
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01:55<poky>How can I find if my Mysql is runnning out of memory?
01:55<Zimsky>are there footprints?
01:56<Zimsky>play it safe and build a wall around memory
01:56<Zimsky>mysql can't run out of it then
01:56<poky>Everything is default installation.
01:56<poky>Where can I share screenshots? Any link?
01:56<Zimsky>I guess you can just look at the memory usage of the mysql process(es)
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01:57<Zimsky>imgur?
01:57<poky>https://snag.gy/LMem3t.jpg
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01:57<boyhowdy>New Dallas data center having .a few issues today, eh?
01:58<poky>Zimsky: how can I look into memory usage?
01:58<poky>Whats the command?
01:58<Zimsky>dwfreed: it seems like something I'd do if I was really tired and refactoring some function
01:59<dwfreed>Zimsky: it's usually done as a makeshift way of preventing elision of the variable
02:00<Zimsky>poky: htop is one thing
02:00<dwfreed>but it was added 10 years ago, back when compilers' optimization routines weren't as intelligent
02:00<poky>That's pretty much normal
02:00<Zimsky>dwfreed: figured
02:01<poky>There's a guide at Linode - How to Optimize MySQL Performance Using MySQLTuner. Will this help?
02:01<Zimsky>try it and see
02:02<poky>I'll be back
02:02<Zimsky>word
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02:07<robert301>anybody there ?
02:07<Woet>nope
02:07<Woet>just 341 bots
02:07<Woet>beep boop
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02:08<robert301>there is a problem about my linode
02:08<robert301>anyone who can help me
02:08<Peng_>Maybe. What's the problem?
02:09<robert301>thks
02:09<robert301>i just built a VM
02:09<robert301>but it doesn`t work
02:11<Zimsky>care to share more details?
02:13<petem>is it Dallas?
02:14<poky>LOL petem
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02:15<robert301>anyway , thanks , i will try to fix it by myself and google
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02:16<dcraig>new linode should work
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02:18<Peng_>...
02:18<dcraig>new peng also work good
02:19<dcraig>old peng not so much
02:22<poky>Hello all and Daniel Craig!
02:23<dcraig>don't even
02:23<poky>Well, Zimsky look at this https://bpaste.net/show/b1a98ec2a618. Result of mysqltuner
02:23<Zimsky>my knowledge in mysql is lacking
02:24<poky>Lacking what. Edited mysqld.cnf file with key_buffer_size = 64M (16MB previously)
02:25<dcraig>Zimsky, the "My" in MySQL is actually the name of a person!
02:26<poky>Its name is a combination of "My", the name of co-founder Michael Widenius's daughter
02:26<dcraig>and the Maria in MariaDB is My's sister!
02:27<dcraig>true story.
02:29<Zimsky>dcraig: so who is postgre?
02:29<Zimsky>and mongo?
02:31<FluffyFoxeh>mongoloid db
02:33<dcraig>FluffyFoxeh is a flat file
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02:44<poky>test
02:44<dcraig>didn't work
02:45<Zimsky>failed
02:45<poky>Yeah, today is my FAIL day. Nothing is working
02:46<FluffyFoxeh>rip
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02:57<poky>Zimsky: Now what error is this? - https://bpaste.net/show/4bc94212044b
03:00<Woet>poky: what part of "No such file or directory" is unclear"
03:00<Woet>? *
03:01<poky>What error is that? There is nothing wrong with the script. As it is default wp installation
03:01<poky>That same error is in all other WP sites.
03:02<poky>What does this mean "FastCGI sent in stderr"?
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03:24<Samuel>hi
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03:24<cooldude>hi, someone on my IRC network is interested in getting a VPS from you guys, and he is asking me this question:
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03:24<cooldude>[03:22:16] <&cowboy36> ok cool let me ask you this what is the network in and out for
03:25<kyhwana>it's on the pricing page
03:25<cooldude>kyhwana, hm ok
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03:27<samuel_>hello
03:27<cooldude>kyhwana, basically he might be getting 50 Gbps of incoming traffic and 1000 Mbps of outgoing traffic..?
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03:27<cooldude>kyhwana, he also says this:
03:27<cooldude>[03:26:58] <&cowboy36> i am on there pricing page and it dont explain what it is for
03:28<samuel_>linode accept debit card ?
03:28<kyhwana>it's fairly simple in is download, out is upload.
03:28<cooldude>kyhwana, hm ok
03:29<Peng_>!billing
03:29<linbot>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments
03:30<cooldude>kyhwana, he says this:
03:30<cooldude>[03:29:29] <&cowboy36> that isnt much upload then 1gb
03:30<cooldude>[03:29:32] <&cowboy36> per month
03:31<Peng_>:|
03:31<cooldude>he says this:
03:31<cooldude>[03:31:17] <&cowboy36> i just want something to learn on lol
03:31<Peng_>Running a link at 1 Gbps for a month is 300 TiB
03:32<Peng_>(You would be charged overage fees for the last 295 or so TiB.)
03:32<kyhwana>well if you need more than 1gbit out, either buy multiple linodes or get one that does 2-8gbit up
03:33<Peng_>cooldude: 1 gigabit per second and 1 gigabyte per month are very different numbers.
03:33<cooldude>Peng_, hm..
03:33<Peng_>About 299,000 times different, in fact.
03:33<Peng_>cooldude: Has your friend looked at Linode's website
03:33<cooldude>Peng_, yes he is on their as we speak
03:33<Peng_>Oh. Right.
03:35<cooldude>i'm getting him on here so he can talk direct
03:35<Peng_>I converted that the wrong way.
03:35<Peng_>About 306,000 times different.
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03:36<cooldude>here he is
03:36<cowboy36>ok i am cooldude's friend
03:36<cooldude>:)
03:37<cowboy36>sry for the questions but i am new to this server stuff
03:37<cooldude>Peng_, kyhwana, ^
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03:39<cowboy36>ok my question is this the limites on network in and out what does it stand for
03:39<kyhwana>The max speed download/up from/to your linode
03:39<cowboy36>like the 5 dollar plain says 40gbps network in and 1000mbps out
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03:40<cooldude>kyhwana, you mean "The max speed download/up from/to your future linode" ;)
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03:41<Peng_>speed
03:41<Peng_>bandwidth
03:41<Peng_>upstream
03:41<Peng_>downstream
03:41<cowboy36>oh ok so it is just a limit on the upload and down load speeds
03:41<Peng_>yes
03:41<cowboy36>ok i got it now
03:45<cowboy36>ok one more question is this month to month or do i have to get for a full yr to get it for 5 per month
03:46<Peng_>It's month to month.
03:46<Cromulent>month to month
03:46<cowboy36>ok cool
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05:15<elavarasi>ha
05:15<elavarasi>hai
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05:16<elavarasi>any body there
05:16<elavarasi>Good Afternoon
05:16<elavarasi>I need few information about Vps Server
05:16<Peng_>Ho
05:16<elavarasi>could you able to provide that details
05:17<Peng_>What kind of details?
05:17<elavarasi>In My account It seems price as$ 20 or (0.3/hr)
05:18<elavarasi>what is meaning of(0.3/hr)
05:18<Peng_>$20 per month is equivalent to $0.03 (3 cents) per hour.
05:19<Peng_>It's just explaining the fee in two different ways
05:19<hawk>Well, $20 is the slightest of discounts, iirc.
05:19<Peng_>...There aren't two fees.
05:19<Peng_>Yeah
05:19<elavarasi>Oh..ok
05:19<hawk>Essentially, if you buy a whole month of service you only need to worry about the $20. If you buy less time, the other price is what is used
05:20<elavarasi>If I need three months means what is cost?
05:20<ponas>$60
05:20<elavarasi>Ok thank you
05:26<elavarasi>Include tax
05:26<elavarasi>or?
05:32<elavarasi>Now I want to buy vps server
05:33<elavarasi>I need your help
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05:33<elavarasi>Hai
05:33<ponas>tax depends on your local laws
05:33<elavarasi>ok Now I want to buys server
05:34<elavarasi>what are the procedure I have to follow
05:34<ponas>click the buttons on the website
05:34<elavarasi>ok
05:34<ponas>i.e. create an account, add a server
05:35<elavarasi>actually am in https://manager.linode.com/account/welcome page
05:36<ponas>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started
05:41<elavarasi>No I cant Understand
05:41<elavarasi>Sorry
05:44<elavarasi>If I buy VPS server means intially I have to Pay what amout?
05:44<elavarasi>I saw 7 day for trial
05:45<@sjacobs>elavarasi: you are billed at the end of the month for what you use.
05:45<@sjacobs>you can cancel any time in the first 7 days for a full refund.
05:45<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments
05:48<elavarasi>Ok.if my plan is Linode 4096 it have 48GB Storage I have more space means it able to use but exact storage you apply charges correct?
05:51<@sjacobs>i don't understand your question. that plan includes 48GB of storage and is $20 per month. you can use the storage however you like.
05:52<elavarasi>ok
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05:55<elavarasi>ya
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06:11<elavarasi>actually I signup
06:11<elavarasi>Know I want to know what is my Ip
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06:13<Peng_>It says in the manager.
06:13<@sjacobs>elavarasi: have you created a linode, yet?
06:14<elavarasi>ya
06:14<elavarasi>https://manager.linode.com/linodes/settings/linode3984823
06:14<@sjacobs>click "Remote Access". the getting started guide will walk you through almost everything you need to know.
06:15<Peng_>https://manager.linode.com/linodes should also display the IPv4 IP
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06:22<Peng_>Hello?
06:22<ardipithecus>howdy
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06:52<cowboy36>what do i do to cancle my linode server just cancel my account??
06:54<Peng_>You don't have to cancel your account
06:54<@sjacobs>cowboy36: you can also click "Remove" next to the linode from the Manager.
06:54<cowboy36>crap i removed account
06:55<Peng_>Well, that works too
06:56<cowboy36>will i still get refund
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07:13<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new one <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15322&p=74801#p74801>
07:14<Zimsky>Woet: crusty jugglers.
07:15<cowboy36>Psg_ did you see my last question
07:16<cowboy36>peng_
07:16<cowboy36>sry
07:16<Peng_>I'd email support@linode.com to make sure
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07:17<cowboy36>ok thanks Peng_
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10:56<poky>I'm back! Is Zimsky here?
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10:57<poky>Hmm.. Well, who can help me with MySQL conf?
10:58<poky>When I ran mysqltuner, I got this warning. *** MySQL's maximum memory usage is dangerously high ***. From which file can I check this?
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11:07<sergio>hi
11:08<sergio>i need an information
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11:08<Guest6513>anybody help me?
11:08<relidy>!to Guest6513 ask
11:08<linbot>Guest6513: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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11:09<poky>Ask Guest6513
11:10<Guest6513>thanks
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11:11<Guest6513>exist a procedure to change server property?
11:11<Guest6513>i have 2 servers but i have to change the property
11:12<Guest6513>billing data, etc
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11:23<poky>Zimsky: he can help
11:23<poky>Guest6513: Ask Zimsky
11:23<Zimsky>no
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11:42<poky>lol
11:43<poky>I want to search for folder 'cache/db' on my server and delete them. How can I do that?
11:43<poky>find . -name "cache" -exec rm -r {} \;
11:52<poky>bye
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11:58<Peng_>-delete!
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12:02<Zimsky>-exec shred -fuz {}
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12:11<Darxus>I just rebooted my linode for the first time in a while. Can't ssh into it now. I'm logged in via lish. Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS (xenial). "route -n" has nothing.
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12:14<Darxus>Ugh, I disabled network helper.
12:18<@scrane>Hey Darxus, that might be part of it. Does enabling it help?
12:19<Darxus>I shut down, set "Auto-configure Networking" to yes, booted, and "route -n" still has nothing.
12:22<Darxus>Looks like this should be the best thing to read through? https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration
12:24<@scrane>could be.
12:24<@scrane>!p
12:24<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
12:24<@scrane>Can you share the results of ip a and ip r?
12:24<@scrane>Also cat /etc/network/interfaces
12:24<@scrane>I might be able to point out what's going on
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12:26<smallclone>Darxus: I'd add "journalctl -b | grep network" to that
12:26<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/ee433a455e50
12:27<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/8f9409123a60
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12:28<@scrane>Hrm... can you also give me "cat /etc/network/interfaces"?
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12:29<smallclone>you should add | grep network to that command..
12:30<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/ad9ac8fc4ebd
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12:30<Darxus>smallclone: To which command?
12:31<smallclone>the journalctl one
12:31<smallclone>journalctl -b | grep network
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12:33<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/e188ab97d3c1
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12:33<smallclone>also, did you ip swap recently? probably couldn't hurt to do a quick arping -c 2 64.71.152.1
12:33<Darxus>named and freshclam were just spewing lots of unreachable stuff.
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12:35<Darxus>smallclone: Nah, IP is what it has always done.
12:35<Darxus>been
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12:35<smallclone>i mean, that stuff could be important, if one of those services has something in if-up.d that is failing
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12:36<@scrane>Hrm... can you give the output of systemctl -l status uptrack-prefetch.service
12:37<Darxus>smallclone: I checked, it's just lots of: Oct 11 12:19:03 panic named[3720]: network unreachable resolving 'ns1.linode.com/AAAA/IN': 192.36.148.17#53
12:38<Darxus>scrane: It's just saying it has no network connection to fetch updates: https://bpaste.net/show/40b81b446a26
12:39<@scrane>Ah, darn. Hrm.
12:41<Darxus>"ip r" is similar to "route -n", right? So I have an /etc/network/interfaces, written by the linode networking helper, specifying an default route, and yet I have no default route?
12:43<@jackley>Darxus: systemctl -l status networking.service?
12:43<@jackley>...exclude the question mark at the end :)
12:45<Darxus>jackley: No errors: https://bpaste.net/show/1da6f7902f7e
12:46<smallclone>Darxus: did you try that arping command?
12:46<Darxus>smallclone: Yes.
12:46<relidy>ip a showed the link was down. I wouldn't expect anything to work that required that link.
12:47<relidy>Have you tried manually upping the interface?
12:47<Darxus>relidy: No, I was trying to figure out how to do that, used to know off the top of my head. I mean I did an ifup...
12:48<relidy>Darxus: I don't use Ubuntu normally, but ifup should at least tell you if that's going to "fix" the problem. Then you can figure out how to permanently solve it if so.
12:48<Darxus>ifup: interface eth0 already configured
12:48<relidy>Oh, misread that. Sounds like you have tried ifup
12:49<Darxus>That was just "ifup eth0"
12:49<relidy>NetworkManager installed/running? May need to poke that.
12:49<smallclone>shouldn't be by default on ubuntu
12:49<Darxus>Which is weird because eth0 is listed as DOWN.
12:50<smallclone>Darxus: maybe try ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
12:50<relidy>Darxus: Try ifdown, then ifup? Just a WAG
12:50<relidy>Heh
12:51<Darxus>Well, that brought the interface up. WTF.
12:51<smallclone>hooray
12:51<Darxus>And I have a default route.
12:52<@jackley>\o/
12:52<Darxus>And remote access. Thank you all very much. Now, wtf, how do I get the thing to come up on its own when rebooted? :/
12:52<@jackley>!point relidy
12:52<linbot>jackley: Point given to relidy. (8)
12:53*relidy does a little dance.
12:53<@jackley>Darxus: maybe reboot it again now, see if it happens again?
12:53<relidy>Yeah. Scientific method and all.
12:53<Darxus>Might as well.
12:54<relidy>Darxus: https://www.xkcd.com/242/
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12:57<Darxus>Nope, I had to manually do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 again: https://bpaste.net/show/f617535b427c (started over with the pasting)
12:57<Darxus>At least it's repeatable??
12:58<@scrane>If it's up and running now, I'm not certain what's going on but you could try just enabling networking to just make sure that's set up correctly. Run "systemctl enable networking" and then reboot and see if that helps.
13:00<smallclone>hm, i don't really like that you're getting postfix errors when doing that. if you have a postfix directory under /etc/network/if-up.d/, i'd suggest temporarily moving it to ~/ or something, and then rebooting. or at least trying the ifup && ifdown again
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13:01<@jackley>scrane: I think networking is enabled, if I'm understanding his 'systemctl status networking.service' output correctly -> https://bpaste.net/show/1da6f7902f7e
13:01<@jackley>"loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)"
13:01<@scrane>Aah, okay. Yeah, I missed that line.
13:01<@jackley>smallclone: I was thinking the same thing, actually
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13:02<Darxus>smallclone: The postfix stuff is just warning that I have lines in my config file that are nolonger used. Which I should remove.
13:02<@jackley>ah. we've recently seen a few instances of sendmail errors preventing eth0 from starting
13:04<Peng_>O_O
13:10<dwfreed>it's an if-up.d file that breaks shit
13:10<dwfreed>because you once had real sendmail installed
13:11<dwfreed>it's dumb as hell
13:11<Zimsky>same
13:11<Darxus>I moved the postfix files to a temporary directory, rebooting.
13:12<Darxus>Nope, that didn't help, same, no routes.
13:13<Darxus>Without postfix if-up.d etc. files: https://bpaste.net/show/27b41540358a
13:13<smallclone>ok, what's in your /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/udev/rules.d directories...could we get an ls -la of each of them?
13:15<Darxus>smallclone: https://bpaste.net/show/4c82a739ea44
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13:21<smallclone>and the other directory?
13:21<Darxus>Ah, sorry.
13:22<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/4e30b45f3269
13:30<smallclone>hm, well...you've got a lot more in there than i'm used to seeing on ubuntu 16.04. what's in 70-persistent-net.rules and 85-ifupdown.rules ?
13:31<Darxus>This server was originally ubuntu 6.06, upgraded over time :)
13:32<Darxus>70-persistent-net.rules is all commented out.
13:32<Darxus>https://bpaste.net/show/9407e0b12cdb
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13:37<smallclone>i mean, the meaningful parts of it aren't commented out as far as i can tell
13:37<Darxus>smallclone: That's the other file.
13:38<Darxus>https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1001511&page=2 suggests putting ifdown/ifup in rc.local, which I imagine would work :/
13:38<smallclone>your representation is a bit confusing
13:39<smallclone>so lines 51-61 are 70-persistent and the ones below are from 85-ifupdown
13:40<smallclone>tbh i think you can probably do away with all fo this stuff anyway, at least the networking related bits..a default 16.04 images just has a 80-net-setup-link.rules files that's symlinked to /dev/null
13:41<Darxus>I only included 70-persistent-net.rules, because 85-ifupdown.rules is entirely lines starting with #.
13:41<Darxus>it's bounded by:
13:41<Darxus>panic:/etc/udev/rules.d# cat 70-persistent-net.rules
13:41<Darxus>and
13:41<Darxus>panic:/etc/udev/rules.d#
13:41*react what have I walked into here... xD
13:42<Darxus>react: I rebooted my ubuntu server for the first time in a while, eth0 didn't come up, "ifup eth0" doesn't work, "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" gets it to work. Rebooting again doesn't get it to work. Trying to figure out how to get it to work on bootup.
13:43<react>that's... interesting :)
13:44<Darxus>Yes.
13:50<dzho>sorry, I missed what version of Ubuntu this is.
13:52<smallclone>Darxus: i'm grasping a bit here, but perhaps try disabling auto-configure networking, editing /etc/network/interfaces to add "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" beneath the address and gateway lines, and then reboot
13:54<Darxus>dzho: Description: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
13:56<Darxus>smallclone: Rebooting.
13:58<Darxus>smallclone: No change. Verified the dns line was intact.
14:03<Darxus>I tried adding "pre-up sleep 40" to eth0, as recommended in an old similar discussion. Didn't help.
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14:11<Darxus>Well, adding ifdown/ifup to /etc/rc.local at least works. But it's really gross, and I'd love to figure out what the actual problem is.
14:17<dwfreed>the problem is ifupdown is a steaming pile of shit
14:20<Darxus>It should also be completely unnecessary to put it in /etc/rc.local.
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15:03<sheru>Hi. If I start new linode for a day and delete it, will I be charged for the whole month?
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15:04<Peng_>No
15:04<sheru>THANKS.
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20:28<sesser>Have a bit of a quandary. I reset my phone recently and didn't back up my Authenticator for 2-factor auth... now I can't get into Linode manager. Anyone have any tips/hints on this?
20:29<millisa>Use your scratch code?
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20:31<millisa>and if you don't know your one time scratch code, or you've lost it, or didn't generate it: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/linode-manager-security-controls#recovery-procedure (and after you get back in, generate a scratch code and store it somewhere for next time this happens)
20:31<sesser>er, I must have missed that part of the lecture :-\
20:31<millisa>scratch code gen steps are a little higher in the same doc (after you get back in)
20:32<sesser>would it be a rather lengthy, hyphenated bit of strings?
20:33<sesser>brilliant, thanks for the help @millisa
20:33<millisa>sure thing
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22:26<Andreb>hi.. i got a few questions
22:26<Andreb>on the additional backup service... do i need to leave free space on my node for it or is it a total separate disk space it uses ?
22:27<@sjacobs>Andreb: the backups are not stored on the Linode. you can use the whole disk amount for your plan.
22:27<Andreb>great
22:27<Andreb>my second question is :
22:28<Andreb>if my node because full over time (for example i setup a zimbra serveR
22:28<Andreb>)
22:28<Andreb>can i increase the node disk space ? or migrate the setup to a large node ?
22:29<@sjacobs>you can resize to a larger plan, and then increase your disk size.
22:29<@sjacobs>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/resizing-a-linode
22:29<Andreb>ok great
22:29<@sjacobs>we are also working on block storage (currently in beta in Newark, soon Fremont), which will allow you to add only storage.
22:30<@sjacobs>https://forums.linode.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14906
22:30<Andreb>great...
22:30<Andreb>my last question for now
22:30<Andreb>Is linode service reliable enough to host/run production services ?
22:31<@sjacobs>we like to think so, and many others already do. it would be your call, though, as to how much redundancy you need.
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22:32<Andreb>hrm.. just loo0king to start off running a node with zimbra NE on for my company and 2 others.. with about 100 mailboxes total...
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22:37*FluffyFoxeh linodes
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22:41<@mcintosh>Andreb: yes it is reliable enough for that
22:42<@mcintosh>more than reliable enough, I would say :)
22:43<Andreb>ok
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22:44<Mayur>Hii....
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22:45<millisa>greetings.
22:45<cowboy36>@mcintosh is your first name Jason
22:46<Mayur>Is linode servers are kvm based or openvz based?
22:46<millisa>KVM
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22:47<Mayur>That's great....
22:47<Mayur>Thank you.... :)
22:47<millisa>Sure thing
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22:52<AlexMax>millisa: kvm
22:52<AlexMax>wow
22:53<AlexMax>should've looked further down
22:53<AlexMax>xen too
22:53<AlexMax>but that's old
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23:17<@mcintosh>cowboy36: my first name is on the website :p
23:19<rsdehart>it's actually M. Cintosh
23:19<rsdehart>of the clan Cintosh
23:21<@mcintosh>!point rsdehart
23:21<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to rsdehart. (3)
23:28<rsdehart>whoa
23:28<rsdehart>I had 2 points. This is great
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23:30<Eugene>Every night I'm a towel
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23:57<Edgeman>Is there a way to force the Linode DNS servers (in slave mode) to re-transfer the zone files from the master, ignoring serial number?
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