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00:08<@sjacobs>Edgeman: is there a reason that the serial number can't be updated? that should be the quickest way to get it to update without waiting for TTL.
00:08<dwfreed>^ bump the serial number
00:10<Edgeman>the serial numbering has changed
00:10<Edgeman>and is now lower than the one on the slaves
00:10<dwfreed>there's a way to properly rotate serials, one sec, lemme find it
00:12<dwfreed>"The solution to this is to add 2147483647 (2ˆ31-1) to the number, reload the zone and make sure all slaves have updated to the new zone serial number, then reset the number to what you want it to be, and reload the zone again."
00:13<Edgeman>hmm
00:13<Edgeman>add to the number, "the number" being the serial I want?
00:14<dwfreed>I think the whole point of that procedure is to get the serial above 2^31, so the highest bit is set, so the temporary serial number just needs to be at least 2 above the number in the quote
00:14<dwfreed>but they're referring to the old serial
00:16*dcraig wraps around dwfreed
00:16<Edgeman>well let's test it on one and see. I'll just use 2147483649
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00:32<Edgeman>dwfreed: no luck
00:32<Edgeman>now Linode just has the even bigger number in the SOA record.
00:40<dcraig>are the rest of the records still wrong?
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00:46<dwfreed>Edgeman: try setting it to (desired serial) + (2147483647) + (1), then to the desired serial
00:46<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Just want to say Hello. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15324&p=74803#p74803>
00:47<dcraig>hi linbot
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00:48<Mavros>Hello
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00:49<Mavros>Does linode allow adult sites?
00:49<dwfreed>as long as it complies with US law
00:50<dwfreed>wrt adult content, that means complying with the records law
00:51<@sjacobs>Mavros: ^^ and the terms of service are here if you want to review. http://linode.com/tos
00:51<dcraig>wrt current president, no fatties! :D
00:53<Mavros>Thank you
00:55<FluffyFoxeh>dwfreed: records law?
00:55<dcraig>fluffy lawl
00:56<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: 18 USC 2257
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>ah
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>(found itl
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>)
00:57<dwfreed>(no, I didn't know that off the top of my head, I had to look it up)
00:57<Ikaros>Ya this - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2257
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>dwfreed: he I was about to ask :p
00:57<FluffyFoxeh>heh*
00:58<Edgeman>dwfreed: I did 2147483647 +2 and I also tried <new number>+2147483647
00:58<dwfreed>note I said + 1
00:59<dwfreed>the goal is that the difference between the temp serial number and the desired one is > 2147483647
00:59<dwfreed>(DNS is weird)
01:00<Edgeman>ahh
01:00<Edgeman>the problem is each of my updates will add a few hundred ot the next desired serial
01:00<Edgeman>as it uses unixtime I think
01:00<Edgeman>(basically setting it to "auto")
01:00<dcraig>for any videos featuring FluffyFoxeh and me, records pursuant to 18 USC 2257 are kept at 123 Fluffy St, Chatsworth, CA
01:01<dwfreed>Edgeman: so just pick a really high one
01:02<dwfreed>eg, 3755268121 should work
01:02<Mavros>I may have been mistaken, but do you guys offer web hosting with a cpanel and email?
01:02<dwfreed>Linode provides VPS hosting
01:02<Mavros>Oh okay, thanks. That clears it up
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01:03<Edgeman>dwfreed: I did 3655275597
01:03<Edgeman>there we go
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01:03<Edgeman>that seems to have done the trick. thanks!
01:04<dwfreed>yeah, that's about 2 hours ahead
01:04<Edgeman>time to do this on the rest of the domains :/
01:04<dwfreed>automation!
01:05<Edgeman>I could but it's only about 10
01:06<Edgeman>in this case it's a one-off and will be faster by hand
01:06<Edgeman>All to fix my certbot automation that wasn't working reliably due to non-updating zone serials
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01:41*Zimsky automates dwfreed
01:48<FluffyFoxeh>don't do that
01:50<Ikaros>What, we have a thing against /me or something?
01:51*Zimsky has a thing against FluffyFoxeh
01:51*FluffyFoxeh has a thing against Zimsky
01:51*Zimsky is literally Ikaros
01:53*FluffyFoxeh literally is
02:01*zifnab literally can't even
02:02<zifnab>I like the current definition of literally
02:02<zifnab>Literally: used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true
02:03<Zimsky>go to hell
02:07<FluffyFoxeh>zifnab: ah yes the contradictory definitions it has taken on
02:08<Ikaros>I literally like to be literal
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02:16<Robin_>hi
02:16<millisa>greetings
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02:17<Zimsky>zifnab: except it's a current definition of 'go to hell'
02:17<Zimsky>it means "hey chum how's it going"
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02:22<championchenpei>anyone there?
02:22<millisa>just me and 346 of my closest friends
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02:24<linbot>championchenpei: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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02:25<ActiveFitness>Hi we are facing an issue with the iPv6 ip
02:25<millisa>What kind of issue?
02:26<ActiveFitness>One of Our website hosted in this account is not accessible from INDIA
02:26<championchenpei>no one deals with my tickets
02:27<ActiveFitness>We are having SSL certification for the domain
02:27<ActiveFitness>is there anyway we can disable iPv6 in linode
02:28<millisa>championchenpei: I've had pretty good luck with response time on tickets; if they get a heavier queue, it takes longer. You can always call them if it's an emergency issue.
02:29<millisa>ActiveFitness: you don't have to use ipv6 if you don't want to... it shouldn't get in the way of doing things with ssl certs though?
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02:30<ActiveFitness>millisa: can you tell me then why my website activefitnessstore.com is not accessible from INDIA
02:31<@sjacobs>ActiveFitness: you don't have cpanel configured for IPv6. one sec.
02:32<ActiveFitness>I have configured IPv6 in our cpanel
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02:34<@sjacobs>ActiveFitness: http://termbin.com/9d3a i'm used to seeing this when it has not been configured.
02:35<@sjacobs>http://termbin.com/rqxm this is what you would expect when configured (this is ipv4)
02:36<ActiveFitness>after assigning ipv6 do i need to restart anything from cpanel ?
02:37<Zimsky>sea panelle
02:38<@sjacobs>https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/ALD/Guide+to+IPv6 haven't done it myself, but that and the "getting started with ipv6" guide on the page should be all you need.
02:42<@sjacobs>ActiveFitness: you could also remove the AAAA records for your domain.
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02:45<millisa>this may also be useful: https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/66Docs/Assign+IPv6+Address
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02:45<ActiveFitness>Okay thanks.. i think i fixed it now
02:46<millisa>looks like it
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02:48<f2zubac>hello, is it possible to have 2 or more Linode instances that will share a dedicated vlan ?
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02:49<dwfreed>there's the shared private network
02:49<dwfreed>but it's not a dedicated private vlan
02:49<dwfreed>(but there's really no need for one)
02:52<f2zubac>right, shared private network covers whole DataCentre or only particular Host ?
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02:53<f2zubac>so by using a shared private network for example between www and db host and not using encryption strange thing can happen
02:53<millisa>what strange thing would that be?
02:53<f2zubac>by a dedicated vlan there would be no need for additional crypto/cpu cycles
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02:54<f2zubac>@millisa - arp poisoning ?
02:54<f2zubac>might sound a little bit paranodi, but better ask then assume I guess
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02:55<Guest6558>hi~
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02:55<Guest6558>I want to buy a linode vps
02:55<Zimsky>go for it
02:55<millisa>Great! Buy several!
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02:55<Zimsky>buy all of them
02:56<Guest6558>40Gbps mean 40G Network flow?
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02:57<Zimsky>well it sure ain't 39
02:57<Guest6558>or network bandwidth
02:57<millisa>f2zubac: There's a a couple relevant lines here: https://www.linode.com/security
02:57<dwfreed>f2zubac: Linode has rules applied to each Linode that prevents them from sending traffic from addresses not assigned to them or receiving traffic not destined for them
02:57<dwfreed>this includes ARP
02:58<dwfreed>the private network is datacenter-wide (otherwise it wouldn't be useful, because generally speaking, the Linodes of a particular customer never end up on the same host)
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03:01<f2zubac>@millisa, @dwfreed thank you for informations
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03:51<Cromulent>hmm looks like certbot automatically renews SSL certificates without manually setting a cron job
03:54<@sjacobs>Cromulent: where'd ya find that?
03:55<@sjacobs>i am still seeing the recommendation to run `certbot renew` in a cron job or timer.
03:58<Cromulent>sjacobs: I didn't see it anywhere I just went to renew my certs and before I did I just checked what the expiry date was and it had pushed it back to 2nd of Jan
03:59<Cromulent>I can't remember setting up a cron job for it - I'll have a check in a little bit
03:59<Cromulent>I might have done it when I first started using Let's Encrypt
04:00<@sjacobs>cool. i still rely on the emails... which i ignore until the last minute. :/
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04:57<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • simply replace my current Linode with my backup? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11801&p=74805#p74805> || General Discussion • Just want to say Hello. <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15325&p=74804#p74804>
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06:03<dwfreed>Cromulent: there's probably a package-installed cronjob in /etc/cron.d
06:03<Cromulent>ah OK thanks
06:03<Cromulent>I'll check it out
06:04<dwfreed>and then as long as your previous challenge method was automatic, it can just repeat that
06:05<dwfreed>note that you typically need to reload your webserver to trigger retrieving the updated cert, though if you have regular log rotation, that'll probably happen on its own too
06:05<Cromulent>cool cheers - well that is one less thing to worry about
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06:31<Peng_>Cromulent: If your OS uses systemd, you might have a systemd timer for Certbot too
06:31<Cromulent>oh OK
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06:51<fholm>Hello
06:51<fholm>Are you at linode.com?
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06:52<fholm>can you help me about linode.com
06:52<fholm>I need to find my username and password
06:52<fholm>for linude.com account
06:53<@sjacobs>you can go to https://manager.linode.com/ and click "Forgot username"
06:53<fholm>i know but i dont know wich email i use
06:53<@sjacobs>do you receive emails about payments and invoices? that would be a good place to start.
06:54<fholm>i have only the li35-225.members.linode.com
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07:18<carlosmoutinho>Hi all. Is there a way to find out what triggered my linode to reboot?
07:20<ponas>carlosmoutinho: you could take a look at the dmesg log: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/181067/how-to-read-dmesg-from-previous-session-dmesg-0
07:23<dwfreed>the best way, which works regardless of reason for reboot, is to use LISH to look at the previous console log
07:24<dwfreed>(a kernel panic would not get logged to disk, only to the console)
07:26<@jackley>carlosmoutinho: if you provide me (PM or drop it in here) with your Linode's IP address, I can see if it's anything on our end.
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07:48<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • whey protein powder price in india <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15326&p=74806#p74806>
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07:52<@jackley>carlosmoutinho: got it, looking now
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08:12<SNy>Cromulent, Peng_: as a matter of fact, chances are you have BOTH a cronjob AND a systemd timer for it. :/
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08:13<SNy>That at least was what the debian package came with.
08:13<SNy>Both used different configurations, naturally.
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08:19<Peng_>Yup
08:19<Peng_>The cron job checks if systemd is running and exits without doing anything
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09:53<sdff>hello
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09:53<sdff>anyone here?
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09:56<@bmartin>Man I'm too slow
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10:16<sjk>I'm attached to my servers console through lish. I'm booting from a raw device and need to interrupt the boot process (as soon as the boot> prompt appears) by pressing a key
10:16<sjk>But I just have a few seconds before it tries to do a default boot
10:16<sjk>is there a way of automating that keypress? :)
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10:34<smallclone>sjk: what are you trying to do this for? anyway, are you talking about the grub prompt? so it doesn't have a grub menu and you're going right to a boot prompt?
10:35<smallclone>because if it's the menu you could just adjust your timeout window
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10:49<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • Malware monitoring / on-line scanner <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=13779&p=74807#p74807>
10:55<smallclone>lol, people can't seem to resist necroing that thread
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10:59<linbot>New news from forum: Performance and Tuning • Web, Mail, Erp <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=10669&p=74808#p74808>
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11:04<badvpn>emmmmmmm
11:04<badvpn>hellp
11:04<badvpn>can help me
11:05<smallclone>with what?
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11:05<badvpn>ip by GFW kill
11:05<smallclone>open a support ticket
11:05<badvpn>没有人回复
11:06<badvpn>No one replies
11:06<smallclone>keep waiting
11:07<badvpn>3hours ago
11:09<smallclone>there are probably a lot of tickets for them to get through
11:09<smallclone>keep waiting
11:09<smallclone>they will get to you eventually
11:15<@bmartin>badvpn what is your ticket number?
11:15<badvpn>8955825+
11:15<badvpn>8955825
11:16<@bmartin>You should have a response now. I apologize for the wait. We do try to get to tickets as quickly as possible.
11:17<badvpn>Nothing
11:17<@bmartin>I just sent the response in your support ticket
11:17<@bmartin>It should show up shortly
11:17<badvpn>I will wait for a reply
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11:42<badvpn>emmmmmm
11:42<badvpn>8955825
11:42<badvpn>need help
11:43<@bmartin>Hello
11:43<badvpn>hello
11:44<@bmartin>taking a look now. Is this IP also blocked
11:44<badvpn>yes
11:45<@bmartin>It has been updated. I apologize for what you are experiencing. Sadly we have no control over the GFW.
11:45<badvpn>GFW more and more ferocious
11:45<@bmartin>yes definitely
11:46<badvpn>emmmm
11:46<badvpn>it no ok
11:46<@bmartin>ok
11:46<badvpn>GFW kill new ip too
11:47<@bmartin>Did you restart your Linode?
11:47<badvpn>i can t ping ok
11:47<badvpn>sorry
11:47<badvpn>i forget
11:50<@bmartin>Is it working now
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11:51<@bmartin>Guess so
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12:09<SNy>Ah "thanks" would've been nice, eh? :/
12:09<@bmartin>Hahaha it's ok I don't do it for the thanks
12:09<SNy>Right, but still.
12:09<SNy>Demands, and *poof*.
12:15*jhaas wishes he had said "poof" before leaving
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12:19<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • simply replace my current Linode with my backup? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=11801&p=74809#p74809>
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12:48<hkmedia>Hi all
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12:48<synfinatic>good morning world
12:49<hkmedia>I would like to discuss with a linode administrator
12:49<synfinatic>your best bet is to call/email support this is more of a community support channel
12:50<synfinatic>that said
12:50<synfinatic>!ops
12:50<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact
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12:53<hkmedia>thank you
12:55<Zimsky>you're welcome
12:55<Zimsky>I'm Zimsky
12:55<Zimsky>This is the late show with Woet the Poet
12:55<@scrane>Wait, it's late for you?
12:56<@scrane>hkmedia: Out of curiosity, what would you like to discuss?
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12:59<Zimsky>scrane: it's never late for me
13:00<Zimsky>I'm always on time™
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13:16<poky>~fart?
13:17<poky>Is it good to use Google pagespeed_module in 2017?
13:18<poky>On NGINX?
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13:26<lagato17>hi
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13:30<fenyl>Hi
13:31<fenyl>If I purchase a linode
13:31<fenyl>Am I gonna stop getting your ads?
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13:32<@scrane>Hahaha I'm going to give it a 75% chance of those ads increasing just because of how Google AdWords works.
13:33<hawk>Something something relevant advertising
13:33<@scrane>I bought a dresser once. Got advertisements for dressers for the month following.
13:34<@scrane>BUT if you do buy a LInode, I an say there will be a high probability of increased personal satisfaction when you see those ads knowing you made a great purchase!
13:34*scrane winks
13:34<relidy>!point scrane
13:35<linbot>relidy: Point given to scrane. (1)
13:35<fenyl>HAHAHAHAHA +point
13:36<fenyl>!point scrane
13:36<linbot>fenyl: Point given to scrane. (2)
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13:37<poky>Since I've purachased Linode, I've been getting more Linode ads.
13:37<poky>Linode is losing $$ showing it again and again.
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13:47<poky>What is IIS (Microsoft)?
13:48<hawk>The web server, you mean?
13:48<poky>Web server like Apache/nginx?
13:48<poky>Yeah I guess
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13:48<relidy>poky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Information_Services
13:49<poky>So it is same thing like Apache or NGINX right?
13:49<hkmedia>my linode account has just been closed
13:49<hawk>poky: Yeah, same sort of thing
13:49<poky>If I have good knowledge of Apache and NGINX, i partly know how IIS works, right?
13:50<hkmedia>due to a complaint of spam
13:50<poky>hkmedia: were you running email server?
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13:51<hawk>poky: I guess. You'd be lost but know some concepts that can still be applied at least.
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13:52<poky>Hmm... Somebody needs help on their web application. EVerything is on ASP and IIS. I think if I browse around the help they need, I can figure out something
13:52<hkmedia>normal use with web applications, one of our employees sent spam, it cost us our account
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13:56<poky>Did you fire him/her?
13:56<poky>in1t3r_: hey
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13:57<relidy>hkmedia: Is there a question, then? It sounds like you know why the account was closed. Linode (in my experience) typically opens a support ticket with you before taking such drastic action. If they still closed it after that, it sounds like either you took too long to respond, or didn't respond in a way that Linode felt was sufficient.
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13:57<poky>Linode is very helpful. I was warned for SPAM and DoS attack. They helped for 11 days to solve my problem
13:58<hawk>poky: As with most things like that which are in widespread use, there's plenty of information online, both actual documentation and people posting questions and answers, so sure. Actual experience would obviously be a great help.
13:58<poky>Yeah, reading online. hawk thanks
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13:58<poky>Just curious to know before I start.
14:00<poky>How can I find how quick MySQL is responding to requests?
14:00<poky>My pages are loading a but slower. Want to know the reason.
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14:01<hkmedia>yes we discussed, I explained to them, that one of my employee committed the error of running 3k recipients of spam, he was excluded from work, but they persisted in stopping my account
14:01<synfinatic>poky: you can use EXPLAIN or the slow log (google can explain how to use both)
14:01<poky>!p
14:01<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel
14:02<poky>Thanks synfinatic , Need help with this https://bpaste.net/show/d1a07441ca61 . Make me understand what to do where
14:03<synfinatic>you're out of memory
14:03<synfinatic>or rather tried to allocate 137428992 bytes and it failed
14:04<poky>hmm... wait
14:04<synfinatic>need to tune innodb to either use less memory, free some memory or upgrade your linode to have more memory. i wouldn't recommend using swap space as the performance hit is brutal
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14:04<hawk>poky: If you want to figure out what is taking time on a more general level, look into some profiler tools for whatever language the application is written in. Other than that, either the mysql slow log could be useful (if there are specific unidentified queries which are really slow) or adding some stopwatch-style data gathering to any kind of data access layer in the application could be
14:04<hawk>useful.
14:05<poky>GREAT!
14:05<poky>Thanks hawk
14:05<poky>tuning innodb will be under mysqld?
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14:06<synfinatic>yeah, innodb is part of mysql
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14:08<poky>innodb_buffer_pool_size = 1000M (is this the line i need to fix?) I dont see any other line that says innodb
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14:09<hawk>poky: I would suggest you read up on the innodb settings in general rather than only looking at the ones that are already specified in your my.cnf
14:09<poky>tired of reading. Havent read this much in school!
14:09<hawk>Better get used to it ;)
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14:11<backos>hi felas
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14:12<backos>any OPs are online at the moment ?
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14:14<hkmedia>pls, someone can help me, i need to get back my servers and my account,
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14:15<@bmartin>hkmedia I believe the support person you discussed this with advised you to email our support department correct?
14:15<hawk>hkmedia: I suggest you talk to Linode directly, other customers (most of the people here in the community chat) can't help you.
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14:17<hkmedia>I talk to them, they do not want to get me either the account or the servers on a new account
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14:20<Sesuraj>hi
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14:20<Sesuraj>Is windows server available in linoed?
14:21<Sesuraj>What is the price of windows server?
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14:22<synfinatic>linode specializes in linux boxes. i hear some people have launched windows, but you'll need to bring your own license. price Linode charges is the same either way
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14:23<hawk>Windows can run under KVM virtualization, so it can be done. But it's not a supported configuration, you get to do all the work of getting it on there and you get to bring the license.
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14:23<synfinatic>toolate
14:24<hawk>I would say, it's not the best idea for production use, but could be an interesting excercise anyway
14:24<hawk>synfinatic: I don't particularly care, tbh
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14:36<backos>bmartin: is this possible to get hosted on a spcefic ip ?
14:36<@bmartin>We cannot guarantee a specific IP
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14:38<backos>bmartin: a specific ip is already owned by u guys. but there is a domain on there already
14:38<synfinatic>so you want them to kick someone else off it?
14:38<@scrane>If that's the IP address is already in use, we wouldn't be able to provide that IP address to you.
14:39<backos>xD
14:39<backos>to bad ;o
14:39<Peng_>IP addresses aren't shared
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15:33<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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17:12<Emprende>hola
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17:13<ericoc>hai
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17:14<ericoc>well ok then
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18:04<@scrane>Hey ericoc How's it going?
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18:08<ericoc>pretty good, waiting for linode to invade phila so you guys can buy me lunch one day ;D
18:08<@scrane>Hahaha soon, man. Soon.
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18:25<tafa2>Any chance Linode will ever launch a micro-node? :P Something for $2.50/month perhaps?
18:26<Peng_>Back in the day the smallest plan was $19.95
18:29<@bmartin>Just think of our $5 Linode as a double micro-node
18:33<tafa2>bmartin hehe fair enough
18:34<@bmartin><3
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18:40<gene>hi, can someone point me to info about the kinds of processors and clock rate available when the plans say "6 CPU cores" I can't seem to find it on the site
18:42<@scrane>Hello,
18:42<@scrane>Derp. Stupid enter key. anyway.
18:43<AlexMax>I think you're better off running some sort of benchmark application
18:43<@scrane>The exact processor you see on your Linode will depend on the host the Linode is on. In general, they are all equivalent to 2.5Ghz intel chips.
18:43<gene>I don't have an account. I wanted to compare pricing vs AWS Can I assume I'll have the full use of the core? if I wanted to run transcoding?
18:44<AlexMax>your machine is virtualized and its resources are split X ways, so that means that whatever actual performance you see has little to do with the underlying hardware
18:44<dwfreed>you may not get all 6 cores if there is contention on the host
18:44<gene>so they're over provisioned?
18:44<dwfreed>all VPS is overprovisioned
18:44<dwfreed>otherwise you don't make money
18:44<gene>are there dedicated plans?
18:44<AlexMax>i'm pretty sure any VPS seller does overprovisioning
18:44<dwfreed>no
18:45<AlexMax>otherwise.....yeah what he said
18:45<Peng_>Sometimes you'll be able to max out the CPU. Sometimes you won't.
18:45<AlexMax>grab some benchmarking software and compare numbers
18:45<AlexMax>that's probably the closest you can get
18:45<AlexMax>for what it's worth, I've compared Linode with several other hosts and Linode consistently comes up near the top for what you pay
18:45<AlexMax>but it's been years, so maybe there are better hosts out there
18:46<@scrane>I think there are a few sites out there that have done direct benchmark comparisons.
18:46<AlexMax>i know that digitalocean used to be significantly behind
18:46<AlexMax>apologies if i'm not allowed to mention specific compeditors in this channel
18:46<@scrane>But if you start to experience a significant amount of contention, you can open a ticket and we can look for people abusing their resources or migrate your Linode to a less busy host.
18:46<gene>How does it work with 1 core vs 6? especially if at any time I can have equivilnat of one due to contention? The plan would allocate more for me?
18:46<@scrane>AlexMax It's fine. You aren't outright bashing them or being particularly mean about i.t
18:47<AlexMax>scrane: well, my comparison could have gone either way ;)
18:47<dwfreed>gene: you see 6 cores of the host; you can use up to 6 cores worth of CPU when it's available; when there's contention, you get a proportion of available CPU based on your plan
18:47<AlexMax>but yeah, linode overall has great performance
18:48<AlexMax>great most everything else too
18:48<@scrane>I hear our customer support is pretty awesome, if I do say so myself. ;-)
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18:48<dwfreed>(scrane is a little biased)
18:48<@scrane>Just a little.
18:49<gene>Is it acceptable to run high CPU intensive/real-time process such as transcoding? Or should I stick with dedicated hosts?
18:49<dwfreed>if you have a legitimate use for it, it's generally fine
18:49<AlexMax>gene: run benchmarks to be sure
18:49<gene>or would that be considered abuse?
18:49<AlexMax>oh, good question
18:50<@scrane>gene: It depends on what that looks like. If your usage starts to impact other Linodes on the host, we may ask you to impose rate limiting or make some changes so you aren't impacting the other guests.
18:51<@scrane>We really don't limit what you can do with your Linode, but our concerns generally are going to be whether or not you are following the ToS, and whether or not your use of resources is having a negative impact on the other Linodes on the host. Beyond that, there shouldn't be any real issues.
18:53<AlexMax>i read that as "if we get somebody complaining to us via a trouble ticket"
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19:01<tafa2>AlexMax: great most everything else too <--- I agree! Only thing missing is the ability to load your own ISO's
19:01<millisa>what's stopping you? https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-a-custom-distribution-on-a-linode
19:01<@scrane>tafa2: Wait... I think we have a guide for that.
19:01<@scrane>And yeah, millisa beat me to it, haha
19:01<tafa2>Yeah I know I can do that
19:02<tafa2>But it's not as simple as just booting off an ISO :)
19:02<millisa>i uploaded the redhat 7.4 install media a few weeks ago; worked fine
19:02<AlexMax>Out of curiosity, what do you want from an ISO?
19:02<tafa2>FreePBX
19:02<millisa>you can do that
19:02<AlexMax>oh interesting
19:02<dwfreed>you can just boot an iso
19:02<AlexMax>usually the people who want to install arbitrary ISO's want BSD
19:03<dwfreed>dd it to a disk image, then use the direct disk boot option
19:03*tafa2 reads the guide again
19:03<dwfreed>then do the install from glish
19:03<millisa>what dwfreed just said. it definitely works.
19:03<gene>thanks for your answers all. I'm still a bit confused if linode is appropriate for CPU heavy use-cases but I got the gist
19:04<@scrane>gene: We do have a 7-day moneyback guarantee.
19:04<dwfreed>gene: "it depends; it's probably fine, they'll let you know if you're causing problems"
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19:06<tafa2>pffo
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19:06<tafa2>read the guide
19:07<tafa2>I remember it not being straightforward
19:07<tafa2>that's still the case
19:08<millisa>boot rescue mode, get iso, dd iso to boot image, boot from install image using glish, install, get tacos, reboot into your new os?
19:09<tafa2>greub fstab?
19:09<tafa2>*grub
19:09<tafa2>not as experienced as id like to be with those...
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19:44<Zimsky>millisa: tacOS
19:44<millisa>Fully Tactical OS
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19:47<Mendy>Hi
19:48<millisa>Greetings
19:48<Mendy>May I ask an question about Linode plans
19:48<millisa>!ask
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19:48<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
19:49<Mendy>!ask
19:49<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
19:50<millisa>(heh, just ask your question)
19:50<Mendy>lol sorry but I am there for the 1st time :)
19:51<Mendy>I am looking to buy the plan: Linode 8192 but I want to know if the linode offer cpanel WHM for this plan
19:51<millisa>!cpanel
19:51<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
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19:52<tafa2>wcor VestaCP
19:52<tafa2>*or VestaCP
19:52<ardipithecus>?
19:52<Mendy>I want an panel or plan to install the wordpress from panel not via commands in putty !
19:53<tafa2>Mendy
19:53<tafa2>have a look at VestaCP
19:53<Mendy>no
19:53<tafa2>then you can just upload WordPress with FTP...
19:53<tafa2>no? ok
19:53<tafa2>lol
19:53<ardipithecus>sftp or scp
19:53<tafa2>Even if you get cPanel
19:53<tafa2>you need to purchase an additional module to install wordpress automatically like softaculous
19:54<Mendy>is it paid or free license
19:54<millisa>wordpress isn't too much of a pain to install without a panel; https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-16-04
19:54<tafa2>Ah I hate doing this...
19:54<tafa2>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Vesta+CP
19:55<tafa2>Also are you planning on getting an 8GB Linode for one WordPress site?
19:57<Mendy>millisa the tutorial to install wordpress on ubuntu is difficult to install for me and it takes long time, so I need to install an panel and to manage sites with GUI
19:57<tafa2>Mendy installing a panel comes with a lot of maintenance
19:57<tafa2>and regular security tasks
19:57<tafa2>might be better to get a managed server or go with a reputable WordPress host?
19:58<Mendy>aha got it, thank you for informations
19:59<Mendy>may I know if Linode offer managed plan cloud or server
19:59<tafa2>they offer management services
19:59<tafa2>https://www.linode.com/managed
19:59<millisa>(the managed level *does* come with cpanel)
20:00<Zimsky>it does
20:00<Mendy>what is the fees for this plan
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20:01<millisa>It's down at the bottom of the page
20:01<tafa2>lol
20:01<tafa2>its $100/linode
20:01<tafa2>dude - read the page? :)
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20:02<Zimsky>dude.
20:02<Mendy>I see
20:03<Mendy>so in this plan is included also some space and resources
20:03<Mendy>because I am unable to see the disk space and traffic
20:04<tafa2>Step 1 - Pick a linode
20:04<tafa2>Step 2 - Apply managed services to that linode
20:04<millisa>all plans have disk and network allocations: https://www.linode.com/pricing#all
20:04<tafa2>Step 3 - Pay for price of linode + $100/month for management
20:05<Mendy>thanks a lot for instructions
20:05<Mendy>that is all
20:05<Mendy>good bye
20:05<Zimsky>boodgye
20:06*tafa2 waves
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20:06<tafa2>lol
20:06<tafa2>funny chap
20:06<Zimsky>indeed you are
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20:07<millisa>(just for future reference - managed is applied to the account, not the linode)
20:08<Woet>hi Zimsky
20:08<Woet>happy to be on your show
20:09<Zimsky>I'm glad you're here Woet
20:09<Zimsky>I wanted to talk to you about the lettuce lately.
20:09<Zimsky>Is it true you make your own dressing?
20:10<@scrane>Making your own dressing is awesome.
20:13<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I am the new girl <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15327&p=74810#p74810>
20:17<Zimsky>same
20:34<@scrane>The new girl is spam. I dislike this new girl.
20:34<@scrane>New girl is getting banned.
20:35<Zimsky>new girl will just come back
20:35<@scrane>Your crazy eyes won't trap me anymore, Zoey Deschenel!!
20:35<Zimsky>and remain new
20:35<Zimsky>Zoey Deschenel's eyes trap you?
20:36<@scrane>Dude, she has crazy eyes and I just can't look away. She's like a human muppet.
20:37<@scrane>Just watch her expressions in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. You'll see what I mean.
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21:06<Woet>Zimsky: i dont eat rabbit food
21:07<Zimsky>so eat cow food
21:07<Zimsky>ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ
21:07<Zimsky>do I have to explain everything
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21:22<Eugene>Yes. Where do baby Linodes come from?
21:23<Woet>cow food doesnt need dressing Zimsky
21:23<Woet>its delicious as is
21:24<dzho>"when linode manager and a credit card love each other very much ..."
21:24<Zimsky>Eugene: towels.
21:24<Eugene>Itll have to wait an hour then
21:24<Zimsky>what happens at 2:30 am?
21:30<Eugene>I have to go pick up my wife
21:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Anyone tried Redis Flash on Linode? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15328&p=74812#p74812> || Performance and Tuning • Global performance tuning <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15290&p=74811#p74811>
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21:35<ardipithecus>if I change the ip of example.com on linode's dns control panel. and only adjusting the IP, how long does it take a/effect?
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21:35<millisa>they push the changes about every quarter hour. there could be a little more delay before it actually shows up with the whole cloudflare dns in the mix
21:36<millisa>Last time I looked at their docs they said something about 30 mins.
21:36<ardipithecus>what's this cloudflare that I keep hearing about?
21:37<millisa>The 30 mins estimate was near the bottom of this section https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-manager-overview#add-records
21:38<ardipithecus>thanks melissa. now what's this cloudflare that I keep hearing about? is it the same thing I keep hearing in the news lately?
21:40<millisa>I don't think I track what you hear about in the news. But maybe? They do ddos and cdn type services (well, other stuff, too)
21:48<ardipithecus>how do you force vindoze to reload a dns record?
21:49<millisa>stop the dns cache service?
21:49<ardipithecus>like in linux I run dig example.com @ns1.linode.com
21:49<ardipithecus>well, sort of
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21:50<ardipithecus>good idea, I'll see if I can find out what that is...
21:50<millisa>net stop dnscache
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21:50<millisa>it's a terrible service anyways.
21:51<millisa>if you just wanted to do an A record lookup though, you could 'nslookup linode.com ns1.linode.com'
21:52<ardipithecus>no, like I said, that was a bad example I gave. sorry.
21:52<ardipithecus>btw the net stop dnscache didn't seem to work. it sounded good though.
21:52<millisa>what didn't work?
21:53<ardipithecus>net stop dnscache didnt work
21:53<millisa>what about it didnt work?
21:53<ardipithecus>it stopped the service, though
21:54<ardipithecus>seems like there's no such thing as 'dig' in vindoze command line
21:55<millisa>you could go get dig for windows, but I'm not sure what you are trying to do; nslookup can do lots of the things dig does
21:56<ardipithecus>oh cool nslookup exists on vindoze
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22:31<Eugene>Every night Im a towel
22:33<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Custom kernel module? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15329&p=74813#p74813>
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22:43<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • HELP: "This site can't be reached" from cellular networks <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15330&p=74814#p74814>
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22:51<mg0314a>hi there
22:51<mg0314a>I have a question about setting up streisand
22:51<mg0314a>is there someone that might be able to answer a few quick questions
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22:52<Eugene>Baaabaruuuuuu Streiiiiisanduuuuu
22:52<mg0314a>relating to https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/vpn/set-up-a-streisand-gateway
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22:56<millisa>(we won't know until you ask the actual questions)
22:58<Zimsky>I witnessed a terrible thing
22:59<Zimsky>someone trying to connect a USB micro b plug into an iphone's lightning port for an entire minute
23:01<mg0314a>hi sorry I'm back
23:01<mg0314a>so @millisa streisand is supposed to run a script to create a new linode instance
23:01<mg0314a>so I have three servers one of which i don't need
23:01<mg0314a>do I delete the instance I don't need
23:02<mg0314a>and then the streisand script will use the API to automatically recreate it?
23:02<mg0314a>does that make sense?
23:02<@sjacobs>mg0314a: yes.
23:02<@sjacobs>> Streisand will create a new Linode under your account early in the configuration process.
23:02<mg0314a>ok so quick follow up
23:03<mg0314a>ok ok i got it
23:03<millisa>(it's in the red box)
23:03<mg0314a>if I don't delete one of my existing 3 instances then it will create a 4th correct
23:03<@sjacobs>yup
23:03<mg0314a>this didn't work for some reason
23:04<mg0314a>but I will try again and get exact error message
23:04<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • HELP: "This site can't be reached" from cellular networks <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15330&p=74815#p74815>
23:04<millisa>very next sentencein the redbox "If the script fails for any reason, or if you cancel it, check your Linode Manager and remove the new Linode if necessary."
23:04<mg0314a>yes but that's not what happened
23:04<mg0314a>i will get the exact error message
23:04<mg0314a>thank you
23:05<@sjacobs>mg0314a: if you get an error message, you may find some info in the streisand project's issue tracker
23:05<@sjacobs>https://github.com/StreisandEffect/streisand/issues
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23:24<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Custom kernel module? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15329&p=74816#p74816>
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23:32<cooldude>Hi, I have a question, can Linode provide custom vps requests?
23:33<millisa>what do you mean by 'custom vps requests'?
23:33<cooldude>Like if I email and request a 512 MB ram vps?
23:34<millisa>what's on the pricing page is what there is https://www.linode.com/pricing
23:34<cooldude>Hm ok
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23:44<linbot>New news from forum: Web Servers and Web App Development • HELP: "This site can't be reached" from cellular networks <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15330&p=74817#p74817>
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