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#linode IRC Logs for 2018-07-11

---Logopened Wed Jul 11 00:00:30 2018
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01:54<grawity>it's also kinda pointless IMHO
01:55<grawity>the only advantage is that you don't get charged for the traffic... and you already get the same with IPv6 anyway
01:58<Peng_>:D
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02:06<Woet>:D
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03:27<Ashfaq>Does it include Cpanel in VPS
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03:28<millisa>!cpanel
03:28<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
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07:06<devstdio>Hi. can anyone assist me with a pricing query please?
07:06<devstdio> - How are disk volumes billed?
07:07<@bmartin>.10 a gb per month
07:07<devstdio>so 10GB @ $1/month
07:07<@bmartin>correct
07:07<devstdio>lovely - thank you :)
07:07<@bmartin>no problem!
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08:46<shoffer_>I have regular Linode accounts...but also interested in what Linode has for non-profits? I work with a member run non-profit art gallery...basically threadbare budget.
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09:30<Woet>too bad they left
09:30<Woet>was about to say "the non-profit plans can be found on https://www.linode.com/pricing"
09:32<ericoc>haha, i think if you open a ticket, you may or may not get some kind of credit or something, but who knows
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12:05<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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12:36<Woet>Eugene: still?
12:56<Eugene>So far
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13:51<linbot>New news from community: Grub updated its configuration and now there are issues <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17018>
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15:51<linbot>New news from community: Ubuntu APT repositories not found when updating <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17019>
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16:05<amit>Hello
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16:25<mytech>hi
16:25<csnxs>hi
16:25<mytech>anybody here, can helps me about linode payment with debit card
16:25<mytech>?
16:26<csnxs>perhaps if you state your problem
16:27<mytech>can add payment method debit card for active my linode account and upload fund?
16:28<@scrane>Hey there! You can use a debit card and add funds with that.
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16:28<@scrane>You can read a bit more about how our billing works here https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-payments
16:36<mytech>I'm trying mastercard debit card and
16:36<mytech>it's reply: Your credit card was declined. Please contact your bank for additional information.
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16:39<linbot>New news from status: Emergency Network Maintenance - Tokyo 1 <https://status.linode.com/incidents/5nqt74xbkcds>
16:41<tdavidson>mytech: if your debit card was declined, the only recommendation we can make is to contact your financial institution, as they are the ones who determine whether or not a transaction will go through
16:43<tdavidson>in the meantime, you may be able to add funds with an alternate payment method, such as another credit/debit card
16:43<mytech>i'm not sure
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16:48<bob>hello all :)
16:48<bob>anybody familiar with certbot?
16:49<millisa>lots of people
16:49<rsdehart>probably. Just ask your question
16:49<bob>is there a reason why a domain wouldn't be showing up when i type certbot?
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16:49<rsdehart>are any showing up?
16:49<bob>yes, all but 1
16:49<rsdehart>is it enabled?
16:49<bob>my other question would be, where does it grab all those domains from?
16:50<rsdehart>for me it grabs it from my loaded Apache config
16:50<bob>is it enabled meanign did i create a .conf file and add a symbolic link?
16:50<bob>yes
16:50<bob>meaning**
16:50<rsdehart>so if the domain loads a site, theoretically certbot should be able to pick it up
16:51<bob>it does load
16:51<bob>http://matrix.teamchart.io/
16:54<bob>any other ideas?
16:57<bob>i deleted the virtual host
16:57<bob>and re-added it
16:57<bob>restarted httpd
16:57<bob>still wont show
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17:11<bob>fixed it xD
17:16<rsdehart>what was it?
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17:24<bob>wrong servername in my vhost lol
17:24<rsdehart>>.>
17:24<rsdehart>so if someone else reports a similar issue, I can advise them to make sure they didn't stuff up the vhost. Good one
17:25<gparent>I didn't know certbot could read those configs
17:25<gparent>I just fed it the names
17:26<rsdehart>if you don't specify the name (and maybe provide apache flag? seems like it defaults to it on my install, but eh) it gives a list of configured vhosts
17:30<bob>mind taking a crack at my next issue?
17:31<rsdehart>if you tell us, yeah
17:32<rsdehart>we can't know if we can help if you don't tell us the problem
17:32<bob>i need to move my phpmyadmin from one subdomain to a new one
17:33<rsdehart>should just be a matter of pointing the new subdomain at where phpmyadmin lives, which would be the locatgion pointed to by the old subdomain eh
17:33<bob>i did that, my new vhost points to the directory
17:33<bob>but its just a blank page when i load it, doesnt give anything
17:33<rsdehart>check your webserver error logs
17:34<bob>which ones
17:34<bob>the one for that domain
17:34<bob>or httpd
17:35<rsdehart>probably that domain. It's going to be a php error
17:35<bob>no errors in the log
17:39<bob>its not even going to the proper document root
17:39<bob>when i update my vhost
17:39<bob>can two domains point to the same document oot
17:39<millisa>yes
17:40<bob>okay so is there a setting in the phpmyadmin files that points to the domain its gonna be hosted on
17:40<bob>or a special symlink somewhere?
17:40<bob>i havent touched it in over a year
17:40<bob>trying to remember
17:43<rsdehart>that's what I was just looking for, but I didn't immediately find it and sadly don't have the time right now to do more than a cursory search
17:49<bob>how do i find all symlinks on my server?
17:49<bob>is there a command
17:52<millisa>ls -lr |grep ^l
17:58<bob>okay that worked but its not a sym link
18:04<bob>my document root isnt being followed for some odd reason?
18:04<bob>any ideas
18:04<millisa>not without seeing the config
18:06<Zimsky>I wonder if phpmyadmin creates more problems than it solves
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18:14<bob>for some reason my vhost wont point to the phpmyadmin files
18:14<bob>my other vhost i tested with redirects fines
18:14<bob>dont make sense
18:20<bob>millisa
18:20<bob>would it help if u saw my vhosts?
18:22<csnxs>at least ask her out to dinner first
18:22<rsdehart>I showed you my vhost, pls respond
18:23<Zimsky>I wanna see bobs
18:23<Zimsky>wow nice double joke there
18:24<bob>omg
18:24<bob>i figured it out
18:25<Zimsky>I told you rsdehart was good
18:26<rsdehart>my shitposting is miraculous
18:27<bob>turns out
18:27<bob>since I had installed a cert on that subdomain, it created a secondary .conf file
18:27<Zimsky>rsdehart: hold my ribena
18:27<bob>and even though I only had a sym link to my original .conf file, I needed to edit both .conf's to reflect the same documentRoot
18:28<bob>makes sense, but i dont understand the point of the symlink at that point since it did nothing
18:28<bob>anyhow i appreciate all the help folks
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19:05<Eugene>bobsmods?
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19:09<Anderson>hi
19:09<millisa>Hello. Mr. Anderson.
19:10<Anderson>Does the VPS plan contain the cpanel?
19:10<millisa>!cpanel
19:10<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/
19:10<Anderson>tks
19:12<Anderson>Will there be an increase in the monthly fee?
19:12<Zimsky>yes
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19:16<Anderson>the technical problems are solved here?
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19:18<rsdehart>Anderson: this is community chat. For official support you should submit a ticket or email linode. we attempt to help with non-account-related issues when we can, though
19:19<Anderson>ok
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19:19<Zimsky>the technical problems are solved?
19:21<Mazzzzy>Hello! I set up my nameserver and I would also like to use Linode's nameservers as slaves. Following the guide at https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/dns/dns-manager-overview/#add-a-domain-zone I configured everything, but I noticed that actual nameservers (nsN.linode.com) IPv4 and IPv6 do not match. I wonder if this is intentional? Am I supposed to notify IPs in the guide, or is the guide dated and I'm supposed to notify the IPs nsN.linode.com resolv
19:21<Mazzzzy>Thanks in advance!
19:28<gparent>im always curious what's the up to date info on that as well
19:28<gparent>I haven't checked in a while if my stuff was set up right
19:29<gparent>I think guide is correct and they're separate servers
19:29<gparent>there's no reason to assume the IPs should match nsN.linode.com entries.
19:36<Zimsky>sometimes there's a particular AXFR server different from the actual nameservers
19:37<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/set-up-dns-services-on-cpanel/#using-linode-s-dns-manager-as-a-slave
19:38<millisa>(think it's the same list there)
19:42<Mazzzzy>I guess the info should be up to date then and I should use the separate AXFR list. Thanks. The reason I wasn't sure which to use is because I tried both but "rndc notify" didn't seem to do the trick for either options, but I think I just figured why. Must be of my restrictive firewall that is only allowed to connect specific servers by UDP port 53 :)
19:48<@mcintosh>the nsN.linode.com hostnames point towards CloudFlare IPs
19:48<@mcintosh>because Linode DNS is fronted by CloudFlare, for DDOS protection
19:48<gparent>Mazzzzy: don't forget TCP
19:48<@mcintosh>for a slave domain, you want the IPs in that guide, yes
19:53<Mazzzzy>gparent: yeah, I have that allowed as well
19:53<gparent>good!
19:56<Mazzzzy>After changing firewall settings, it looks like NOTIFY works well! Thanks for the help :D Zonemaster shows all OKs, DNSSEC works well, so I guess I'm good for now.
19:57<@mcintosh>!point gparent
19:57<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to gparent. (4)
19:59<Mazzzzy>Talking about DNSSEC, anyone happens to know what would be the correct way to refresh the zone once I changed it if I use inline signing? Right now I do "rndc reload zone. && rndc sign zone. && rndc notify zone." but I wonder if any of these are unneccesary/bad
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21:10<Paul_John_>HI
21:11<Paul_John_>Just want to ask for a quotation for a Windows Server
21:11<Zimsky>linode doesn't provide windows
21:11<Zimsky>you just pay for the server
21:12<Zimsky>windows also isn't supported on linode anyway
21:12<linbot>New news from community: Postfix not receiving for ONE of many domains after separating web/mail hosting <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/17020>
21:12<Zimsky>you can technically run it, but it's a pain in the arse
21:15<Eugene>!urmom
21:15<linbot>Yo mommas so fat, she couldnt fit into a TB of RAM. (38:0/0) [mmrou]
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21:17<Zimsky>what?
22:01<@mcintosh>!downvote 38
22:01<linbot>mcintosh: Downvote added.
22:02<@mcintosh>almost feel like maybe that sucked less ~10 years ago
22:02<@mcintosh>definitely still sucked, though
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