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00:00<mdz>had you thought about how to handle saving the edits?
00:00<mdz>would you save the new file under a different name, or replace the existing file after processing the edits?
00:00<Chutt>if you committed it
00:01<Chutt>it'd schedule a re-encode
00:01<Chutt>which would reencode to a different name
00:01<Chutt>swap names after its done
00:01<Chutt>and remove the old file
00:01<mdz>but if you were cutting out a clip or such, you might want to keep the existing file the way it is, and just save this as something new
00:02<Chutt>hmmm
00:02<mdz>that kind of thing is obnoxious with a remote control type UI though
00:02<mdz>maybe best to leave that for a dedicated editor
00:02<Chutt>'enter new name
00:02<mdz>heh, do it arcade game style
00:02<Chutt>that'd suck
00:02<Chutt>heh
00:02<mdz>yes it would
00:02<Chutt>i should take new screenshots of things
00:03<Chutt>especially with the freetype2 update, the OSD looks a lot smoother
00:03<mdz>which freetype2 update?
00:03<mdz>the one in unstable that re-enables the bytecode interpreter?
00:03<Chutt>oh, no
00:04<Chutt>in mythtv
00:04<Chutt>from before 0.6
00:04<mdz>oh
00:04<Chutt>when i switched over to freetype2 instead of 1
00:04<mdz>ah
00:04<Chutt>made the fonts look a lot nicer than they do in the screenshots on the website
00:04<Chutt>ok
00:04<Chutt>i'm going to be using FreeSans.ttf
00:05<Chutt>even though it's 4 times as big as helr.ttf
00:05<mdz>it looks fine to me
00:05<mdz>there is that
00:05<mdz>hmm, does freetype use defoma I wonder?
00:05<Chutt>nope
00:05<mdz>doesn't look like it
00:05<mdz>crap
00:06<Chutt>that's 'beyond the scope of freetype' i'd say
00:06<Chutt>it's just a font rendering library
00:06<mdz>you have to give it a path for a font?
00:06<Chutt>no management, no nuthin
00:06<Chutt>yeah
00:06<mdz>it'd be nice to have a simple search path
00:06<Chutt>i search /usr/local/share/mythtv/
00:06<Chutt>~/.mythtv/
00:06<Chutt>the theme path
00:06<Chutt>and the cwd
00:07<Chutt>for it
00:07<Chutt>i can add anything else you want, really
00:08<mdz>the freefont stuff gets installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont
00:08<mdz>but that seems a bit specific
00:08<mdz>I would have thought they would all live under /usr/share/fonts/truetype
00:08<Chutt>that'd be too easy
00:08<mdz>can freefont get fonts from the X server? or only a file?
00:08<Chutt>only a file
00:11<mdz>I should teach mplayer about the seek table one of these days
00:12<Chutt>it's not difficult to do
00:12<Chutt>well, shouldn't be
00:13<mdz>it already does it for AVI
00:13<mdz>so maybe there's some common code there I can use
00:13<mdz>in fact, I'm sure there is, because it saves positions as it goes for seeking backward
00:13<Chutt>reused code in mplayer?
00:13<Chutt><gasp>
00:14<mdz>heh
00:14<Chutt>do they still have the 3,000 line main() function?
00:14<mdz>just wait till I have to split mythvideo from nuppelvideo
00:14<mdz>yeah, it's a mess
00:14<Chutt>that's the sole reason i won't have anything to do with it =)
00:14<mdz>what do you use?
00:14<Chutt>nothing, really
00:15<mdz>I find mplayer to be the least obnoxious, usability-wise
00:15<mdz>and it has mencoder, which is a big plus
00:15<mdz>speaking of mencoder, I need to find out what is causing this:
00:15<Chutt>what about transcode
00:15<mdz>DEMUXER: Too many (990 in 8388995 bytes) video packets in the buffer!
00:16<mdz>doesn't transcode only support a few formats and codecs?
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00:16<Chutt>believe it has a libavcodec plugin
00:16<mdz>ah
00:17<mdz>I had the worst time getting transcoder to do what I wanted
00:17<mdz>its command line syntax is silly
00:17<mdz>and pass-through works only in certain weird cases, while mencoder can always copy
00:20<mdz>mencoder almost works for mythtv video; it seems to lose some packets
00:20<mdz>which I think is related to that message
00:20<Chutt>heh
00:31<Chutt>hrm
00:32<Chutt>my phone just reset itself when i tried to go to my web bookmarks on it
00:34<mdz>it looks like I should be able to use the onboard IrDA on my motherboard to control my tuner
00:35<mdz>I just need to find the dongle for it
00:35<Chutt>that'd be cool
00:35<mdz>which turns out to be really hard
00:35<mdz>the manufacturer says it is available from "third parties" and doesn't say who
00:35<mdz>and nobody seems to carry anything of the kind
00:35<Chutt>heh
00:36<mdz>I may play with it on the laptop this weekend if I get the chance
00:36<mdz>I have a feeling though, that if I get it working the laptop will end up on the coffee table forever
00:36<Chutt>what the hell
00:36<Chutt>my phone keeps resetting :(
00:36<mdz>because then I will have no motivation to get it working on the other box
00:36<mdz>what kind is it?
00:36<Chutt>new samsung
00:36<mdz>one of those fancy 3rd gen?
00:36<Chutt>yeah
00:37<Chutt>worked fine yesterday
00:45<Chutt>heh, i think sprints having problems with their servers or something
00:45<Chutt>everytime i try to go to a url directly, it just takes me to google
00:45<mdz>good lord
00:45<mdz> ds->pts_bytes+=p->len; // !!!
00:46<mdz>what a useless comment
00:46<mdz>I hate sprint
00:46<mdz>they can't even send me a bill on time
00:48<mdz>ah, I think the audio is getting out of sync
00:57<Chutt>probably not taking into account the effdsp stuff
01:02<mdz>effdsp?
01:02<mdz>it looks like maybe it's expecting a certain bitrate and pulling the video out at that rate, but there is more video than audio
01:03<mdz>or something
01:03<mdz>the code is not entirely clear
01:09<mdz>this sucks
01:09<mdz>I'm going to bed
01:09<Chutt>heh
01:09<Chutt>g'nite
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07:01<theqman>Can someone tell me if is saa7134 + v4l2 is known to work or not?
07:03<theqman>I have it working in xawtv but get VIDIOCSYNC errors... want to know if it's just me.
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07:54<polygon_w>hi there people.
07:55<polygon_w>does anyone know if there is going to be any work of mythtv to allow for digital camera intergration ? eg : plugin and browse capablilties?
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12:41<mdz>hmm, mythtv seems to have missed a scheduled recording this morning
12:41<mdz>it shows up in the conflict resolution screen (no conflicts of course)
12:41<mdz>which itself is odd because the timeslot has already passed...doesn't it usually start from the current time?
12:44<mdz>it's an allrecord
12:48<mdz>never mind, I'm an idiot
12:48<mdz>with the larger fonts I'm using, the AM/PM indicator is no longer visible in the column :-)
12:48* mdzhangs his head in shame
12:59<mdz>I should have it show the time in 24-hour format
12:59<mdz>there's plenty of room for it to fit on-screen and still show the longest title, though
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13:38<Chutt>mdz, i think the time formats are all customizeable
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13:57<mdz>Chutt: ever use fulltext search in mysql?
13:58<Chutt>nope
14:01<mdz>ah, now it's working
14:01<mdz>for some reason it wasn't happy when there was only one record in the table
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15:50<Chutt>hm
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15:50<Chutt>qt doesn't have a priority queue container
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15:53<davehunn>hi i am having some problems with mythusic
15:53<davehunn>its start checks then exits
15:53<davehunn>Checking: /mp3/Zero_7/Simple_Things/09.mp3
15:53<davehunn>Checking: /mp3/Zero_7/Simple_Things/10.mp3
15:53<davehunn>Checking: /mp3/Zero_7/Simple_Things/11.mp3
15:53<davehunn>Checking: /mp3/Zero_7/Simple_Things/12.mp3
15:54<davehunn>after finishing the check it flicks up then exits
15:54<davehunn>i a not sure why
15:55<davehunn>i have 3718 rows in the mythmetadata
15:55<Chutt>i don't know why either.
15:56<davehunn>the fist tie it took a long time as it read all the metadata but now the check is very quik
15:56<davehunn>but is that rite it checks the files each tie it starts?
15:57<Chutt>yes.
16:00<davehunn>it doesnt print anything to the console to say why it exits
16:00<davehunn>and the screen shows up then it quits
16:01<davehunn>but it exits norally no segfault or anything
16:01<davehunn>it showed up before i changed the location of my mp3's without exiting
16:04<davehunn>ok thats very odd no longer pointing the p3 store to the correct place has made it work
16:04<davehunn>hmm it didnt check the new directory either
16:17<davehunn>hmm htat is odd oh well it works now
16:17<davehunn>but it takes a long tie and thrases mysql a bit
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17:20<whatsit>anyone have experience with the nvidia debian packages?
17:25<whatsit>what am I suppose to do once I apt-get them?
17:26<whatsit>I can't figure out how to compile them
17:30<whatsit>hello?
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17:40<sfire||mouse>perhaps he should read the docs :)
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19:51<yebyen>how long has this been here? :)
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19:54<theqman>anyone using an saa7130/4 based card?
19:55<yebyen>eek
19:57<theqman>it works in xawtv but not in myth.. I haven't debugged it yet.. but will if it doesn't work for anyone else either.
20:12<yebyen>Chutt: for some reason, the conflict resolution dialog seems to be misreporting the channels of stuff
20:18<yebyen>conflict resolution works fine though
20:18<yebyen>heh
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20:24<sefudier>heya
20:27<sefudier>will mythtv work with the tvin of usual video boards?
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20:38<sefudier>and at which resolution will it record with wintv cards?
20:49<mdz>sefudier: it will record at whatever resolution you specify, assuming your card is capable of it
20:50<sefudier>yeah, thats what i was wondering.. are wintv capable of 640x480 ?
20:51<vektor>yes they are.
20:51<vektor>for NTSC the wintv cards can sample up to 768x480.
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21:48<Chutt>yebyen, yo
21:48<Chutt>sounds like your database isn't setup properly
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21:59<yebyen>Chutt: hmmm
21:59<yebyen>Chutt: i did mysql -uroot -p < mythtv.my or whatever the command was
21:59<yebyen>heh
22:02<Chutt>i dunno
22:02<Chutt>are the recordings on the right channel?
22:03<yebyen>the recordings work fine
22:03<yebyen>heh
22:05<Chutt>tee-hee
22:05<Chutt>'At the current rate of development mythtv <URL> will be a better Tivo soon.'
22:05<yebyen>watching The O'Reilly Factor now
22:05<yebyen>Chutt: i hear that
22:05<Chutt>as seen on /.!
22:05<yebyen>Chutt: it is working perfectly right now
22:05<Chutt>so it must be true
22:06<yebyen>Chutt: and i'm not entirely sure this looks any worse than it would at 640x480
22:06<Chutt>it does
22:06<yebyen>heh it looks really good
22:07<yebyen>how much bigger is it at 640x480 than 320x240
22:07<yebyen>less than 4x bigger?
22:07<yebyen>heh
22:09<yebyen>because it's like .95GB/half hour
22:25<yebyen>i need to find a remote that does work with this
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22:58<yebyen>mmm simpsons
23:22<yebyen>Chutt: how much effort do you think it would be for me to write support for tvguide.com instead of xmltv
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23:23<yebyen>i found an app that converts tvguide.com to xml, iirc...
23:23<yebyen>so
23:23<Chutt>shouldn't be _that_ hard
23:23<Chutt>you'd just need to supply data in the same format as what xmltv does
23:24<yebyen>i have some experience with xslt
23:24<yebyen>so if it's at all different, i could probably fix it
23:24<yebyen>would be work to get it automated though
23:24<yebyen>heh
23:24<yebyen>or a very small shell script
23:50<Chutt>blah
23:50<Chutt>_almost_ done with the osd crap
23:51<Chutt>yebyen, so, would you think some editing features would be nice? =)
23:55<yebyen>Chutt: yeah, but I don't know how much I'd use them
23:55<Chutt>mainly for archiving stuff
23:55<Chutt>is what i'd use it for
23:56<yebyen>Chutt: yeah, I've never had enough space to archive stuff, with the amount of shit I record
23:56<yebyen>my 20gb drive had always filled up in a day
23:56<Chutt>vcd
23:56<yebyen>oooh
23:56<Chutt>etc
23:57<yebyen>will you have that automated?
23:57<Chutt>perhaps
23:57<Chutt>we'll see
23:58<yebyen>that would be very nice :)