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00:53<lichen_>i have the recordings menu in mythweb totally functional now
00:55<moegreen>lichen_: What functions does it have currently? The version I have says it doesn't do anything yet
00:57<lichen_>yeah, ive been doing a bunch of stuff with mythweb since the person that did al lthe original code of it seems to have ignored it for a couple months :)
00:57<lichen_>now you can view everything thats lined up to be recorded for either single record, time slot record, or always record and you can delete it from the recording schedule all from the recordings menu
00:58<moegreen>excellent - it has great potential
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05:24<hcp>Anyone here?
05:25<nevertheless>kinda, yes
05:27<hcp>Has anyone looke dinto getting mythtv to output menu ands such via the dxr3? I can't find anything about it in the mailinglist
05:28<nevertheless>i don't know, sorry
05:37<hcp>That would be really nice, sorta like what freevo is doing, but with recording.,...
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12:59<Chutt>mdz, around?
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13:17<mdz>Chutt: yep
13:17<Chutt>answer to your mailing list question -- because my remote has a separate button for menu and select =)
13:18<mdz>hmm...I have a menu button, but I use it for escape
13:19<mdz>because I have no cancel button
13:19<Chutt>ah
13:19<Chutt>also have an escape button
13:19<mdz>menu logically maps to escape in most situations
13:19<Chutt>mostly
13:19<mdz>I have A, B, C and D buttons that I haven't entirely decided what to do with yet
13:20<mdz>oh, E and F too
13:20<mdz>it's a pain that they don't have more useful labels
13:20<Chutt>heh
13:20<Chutt>yeah, i've got a set of L1 - L6 or something
13:20<mdz>A and B are way at the top, CDEF are arranged in a square around the arrows like where some remotes have menu/info/guide type buttons
13:21<mdz>I used to use A and B as window selection buttons, when I was experimenting with running multiple applications at once
13:21<mdz>I have a button that has a box with a checkmark on it which I am using for space
13:21<mdz>which is appropriate pretty much everywhere except the program guide
13:21<Chutt>that should be appropriate in the program guide now
13:22<mdz>now as in when?
13:22<Chutt>it selects the entry to bring up the record selection screen
13:22<Chutt>in cvs for a few weeks
13:22<mdz>yeah, I have that
13:22<mdz>I would expect OK to select the program though
13:23<mdz>which last I checked did nothing in the program guide from the main menu
13:23<Chutt>right, doesn't do anything there
13:23<mdz>I think I saw somewhere that it would change the channel if used while watching live
13:23<Chutt>yup
13:26<Chutt>so when are you going to check stuff in?
13:27<Chutt>i figure i've got some merging work ahead of me
13:29<mdz>probably not yet, you don't...I have hardly touched existing code except tv.cpp
13:30<Chutt>no changes to the programinfo structure?
13:30<Chutt>that'll affect some stuff
13:34<mdz>I added one field to programinfo
13:35<mdz>yeah, I suppose the db stuff for programinfo will probably conflict
13:35<mdz>I sat down to take a stab at migrating the config file stuff last night and decided it was too much work
13:35<Chutt>heh
13:35<mdz>so I rearranged it to use both for now
13:36<Chutt>well, i'm just about ready to start doing some initial checkins of my stuff
13:36<Chutt>maybe tomorrow
13:37<mdz>I had to rework the stuff for loading the profile settings into nuppelvideorecorder; it's completely different from what I did before
13:37<mdz>so that part has not been tested at all yet
13:37<Chutt>everything should work for the one box case then, at least
13:37<Chutt>i'd just like to have your stuff in before i start breaking things =)
13:38<mdz>I could commit it now, it compiles but is more than likely broken
13:38<mdz>the editor widget is working well, though, just have to figure out where to integrate it
13:38<mdz>I guess make a button in the setup xml that just starts the editor
13:38<Chutt>well, i think i'd prefer if its tested =)
13:38<Chutt>at least a little
13:39<Chutt>and yeah, that's a good place for it
13:39<Chutt>should already be a button for 'recordings'
13:39<Chutt>just would have to hook that up
13:39<mdz>also it looks like crap
13:39<mdz>but that's minor
13:40<Chutt>heh
13:40<mdz>needs a lot of tweaking to look more mythlike
13:40<mdz>it's just qt-like now
13:40<Chutt>ah
13:40<Chutt>i should take some new screengrabs one of these days
13:40<Chutt>since everything's all colored now
13:41<mdz>I haven't really looked at it yet, but I assume I can reuse the viewscheduled/conflict resolution list
13:41<mdz>for selecting a profile
13:41<Chutt>kinda
13:41<Chutt>i want to have a separate list
13:41<mdz>ah
13:41<Chutt>but still from that window
13:41<Chutt>since that one just slaps everything together
13:41<Chutt>and only shows stuff being recorded in the next week
13:41<mdz>all I need is a big listview which fills the screen really
13:42<mdz>and has the nice colors
13:42<Chutt>i'd like to have a listview with one entry for an allrecord, one entry for a timeslot, etc
13:42<mdz>each row would just have the name of the profile
13:42<Chutt>instead of each individual program
13:43<mdz>hmm...I'm having trouble picturing that
13:43<Chutt>heh
13:43<Chutt>well, i dunno
13:43<mdz>a list which shows allrecord/timeslot/etc. in separate sections?
13:43<mdz>or just indicates which is which and lists them together?
13:43<Chutt>no, all together
13:43<Chutt>but just indicating which is which
13:43<mdz>ah, ok
13:43<mdz>an extra column then
13:43<Chutt>yup
13:43<mdz>I added a column for the profile name
13:44<mdz>but that part needs to be redone
13:44<Chutt>probably remove the channel and the date in the list
13:44<Chutt>since that's mirrored below
13:44<mdz>space would be pretty tight with both a profile column and recording type or whatever
13:44<Chutt>and have the type and record profile in the list
13:44<mdz>ah, right
13:44<mdz>good idea
13:44<mdz>I was thinking about making the profile editor a little like those screens, showing the settings at the bottom
13:44<Chutt>i'm thinking a radio button list across the top, like in the cd ripper screen
13:45<mdz>currently it just presents the names and when one is selected, it launches the wizard
13:45<mdz>populated with that profile
13:45<Chutt>to select between 'fix conflicts' and 'change profiles'
13:45<mdz>with a magic entry for creating a new one
13:45<mdz>I haven't seen the CD ripper screen, is there a screenshot?
13:45<Chutt>yeah, should be
13:45<mdz>yeah, there is
13:46<mdz>so left/right would change the radio button always, or it would have to be focused?
13:46<Chutt>l/r would change it always
13:46<Chutt>would have to do some extensions of the qt widgets, but that's easy
13:47<Chutt>to change keybindings
13:49<lichen>oh hey you're around, how do you want me to get the mythweb changes to you?
13:49<Chutt>send a diff to the mailing list
13:49<lichen>i also added support for the "always record this program on this channel"
13:49<lichen>to dev?
13:49<Chutt>cool
13:49<Chutt>yeah
13:49<lichen>okay, you got it
13:49<Chutt>thanks
13:50<lichen>time to go do some of these work orders i guess :-/
13:54<mdz>Chutt: who created this settings table with the 'value' column holding the name of the settings, and the value of the setting in a different column?
13:55<Chutt>bah
13:55<Chutt>value, data :p
13:55<mdz>name, value :p
13:55<Chutt>whatever, heh
13:58<Chutt>yeah, i should've just called it key/value
13:58<Chutt>but oh well :p
13:58<Chutt>if you really want to change it, go ahead
13:58<Chutt>i won't mind at all =)
14:04<Chutt>hrm
14:04<Chutt>i should make mythmusic save the current position in the playlist
14:04<Universe>that would be good Chutt...
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14:15<Chutt>http://www.mythtv.org/mc/musicplayback.png
14:15<Chutt>btw =)
14:18<Universe>very nice
14:23<Chutt>aside from the little bits of background color around the buttons
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15:07<lichen>hah awesome, the new functionality of mythweb is sweet
15:08<lichen>im just trying to do everythign i can think of before i make a patch
15:17<lichen>any preferences on how to display whether a program is set to record in the listings page? do you like the red border? should i give everything thats going to be recorded by any of the three tables a red border? or should i differentiate the three(4) recording types in a way that the actual mythtv guide does?
15:22<lichen>the existing code seems to put a red border around everything except for timeslot record,doesn't seem to do that properly
15:28<mdz>what's the point of archiving the mailing list?
15:28<mdz>it's not as if anyone looks there
15:29<Universe>mdz... the people you don't hear from look there...
15:30<Chutt>heh
15:30<Chutt>no they don't
15:30<Chutt>noone that posts to the list checks to see if the same thing was answered even the day before
15:31<mdz>do you allow posts from non-subscribers?
15:31<mdz>I'm guessing from the lack of spam that you don't
15:31<Chutt>nope
15:32<Chutt>and i tend not to approve on-topic posts by non-subscribers, too
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15:42<mdz>vektor: I see there's an ITP in for tvtime now
15:45<mdz>so in addition to not reading the archive, I guess they don't read the posts they receive either
15:46<Chutt>right
15:46<Chutt>heh
15:46<Chutt>you'd need dedicated power lines for each amp
15:47<Chutt>that's insane
15:48<lichen>wrong channel? :)
15:48<Chutt>erk, yeah
15:48<Chutt>heh
15:50<moegreen>Anyone know if this has been merged into CVS? http://www.snowman.net/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2002-November/000889.html
15:51<Chutt>quite a long time ago
15:51<lichen>hah yeah, nov 1st
15:53<moegreen>sorry, haven't been subscribed to the commits list until now
15:57<vektor>mdz: yeah, my friend simon ITP'ed it
16:34<lichen>i posted the mythweb diff to the dev mailing list
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16:37<Chutt>lichen, thanks
16:39<lichen_>when you get a chance to take a look at it lemme know what you think of it
16:40<Chutt>heh
16:40<Chutt>i will
16:40lichenlichen_ Dec 03 16:40:51 lichen lichen_ Dec 03 16:40:56 <mdz> lichen_: how come it requires a fuzz factor?
16:41<Chutt>i always apply patches by hand, anyway
16:41<lichen>because i dont think it has enough lines to determine where to put the hunk in the recordings.php file due to the fact there was barely anything in there before and i ended up removing all that anyhow
16:41lichenlichen_ Dec 03 16:42:13 <mdz> lichen: if the patch is applied to the same source that the diff was made from, it will always apply cleanly
16:42<lichen>well thats exactly what i tried.. and it didn't, the recordings.php part got rejected, but it seemed to fix it when i upped the fuzz factor to 3
16:43<lichen>then i checked the resulting file and it looked correct
16:43<mdz>the easiest thing to do would be to run "cvs diff -u" rather than diffing two trees
16:44<lichen>oh... okay... im not super familiar with cvs and generating patches and such and working with people, so you have to forgive me :)
16:44<lichen>i assume you can make do with that patch until the next one though?
16:44<Chutt>yeah
16:45<Chutt>like i said, i apply stuff by hand
16:45<lichen>okay cool, in the meantime, ill try to get better.. i promise ;)
16:46<Universe>sure, sure...
16:47<Chutt>lichen, i'll hold off applying it for a few days
16:47<Chutt>see if thor shows up =)
16:48<lichen>hahah okay, maybe he will pique some interest again once he sees someone else muddling up his stuff :)
16:48<Chutt>yup
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17:52<mnkboy>has anyone seen this before? I've upgraded to xfree 4.2.1 (apt-get), and now xawtv/mythtv don't work - running v4l-conf yields: "ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument" any ideas?
17:57<lichen_>i might i might make an option to switch between an online guide similar to zap2it and one similar to tvguide.com (just the program title)
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21:13<lichen_>myth just started doing something really weird, while watching a recording, i hit forward andi t actually rewinds like 5 seconds until i hit it a couple more times
21:34<mdz_>rewinds?
21:36<lichen_>yeah, i hit forward andi t goes back like 5 seconds, until i hit it again then it skips forward like its supposed to
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21:59<mirk_dt>mdz_ or Chutt: either of you guys around to help me with a debugging question?
22:02<mdz_>mirk_dt: shoot
22:03<mirk_dt>I'm debugging mythgame
22:03<mirk_dt>just a sec...
22:04<mirk_dt>when I look at *context in GameHandler::GetHandler
22:04<mirk_dt>I get:
22:05<mirk_dt>(gdb) print *context
22:05<mirk_dt>$7 = {qtfontbig = 25, qtfontmed = 16, qtfontsmall = 12, m_settings = 0x80b6bd8, m_installprefix = {static null = Cannot access memory at address 0x0
22:05<mirk_dt>I don't think that m_installprefix is right?
22:05<mirk_dt>would you agree?
22:06* mirk_dtis not a programmer
22:06<mirk_dt>;-)
22:08<mdz_>m_installprefix is probably a QString
22:08<mdz_>in which case, yes, that is correct
22:08<mirk_dt>context is passed to GameHandler::GetHandler from GameHandler::Launchgame
22:08<mirk_dt>by correct, do you mean my assessment is correct?
22:10<mirk_dt>in GameHandler::Launchgame the variable is called m_context
22:10<Chutt>no, by correct, he means that that what you pasted is completely normal.
22:10<mirk_dt>ahh.
22:11<_shad>I guess it would be hard to implement a little ram drive in which it writes to the ramdisk and to the hard drive, but it just reads from the ramdisk for less hard drive chatter? :)
22:12<Chutt>shad, impossible, really.
22:12<_shad>heh. nice in theory though :)
22:12<Chutt>it's been brought up several times
22:12<_shad>I belive it
22:12<Chutt>mostly by people who don't really know what's going on
22:12<Chutt>:p
22:12* _shadagrees with Chutt that he doesn't know what's going on
22:13<_shad>I'm only smart enough to know how to modify the code and make a 1/2 gig ramdrive :)
22:13<Chutt>yeah
22:13<_shad>That will have to do until I get a better system
22:13<Chutt>well, it'd work fine if you wanted to limit yourself to the amount of ram you have
22:13<_shad>ya
22:13<Chutt>but i kinda like having a 5 hour pause buffer =)
22:13<_shad>It's just that I have 2 computers in my room where I sleep
22:13<_shad>hehe
22:14<_shad>and even the 60gig in this other computer chatters a lot
22:14<_shad>:(
22:14<_shad>Kinda hard to sleep at night
22:14<_shad>A couple of times now it looks like there was an audio overrun or something, and all I get was static. Kinda scared me when I first turned on the monitor/speakers in the morning
22:17<_shad>I love the epg, now my GF doesn't get pissed at me constantly changing the channel to find stuff. hehe
22:18<mdz_>_shad: if all you want is to store things in ram, use tmpfs or a kernel ramdisk
22:18<mdz_>no need to do anything to mythtv
22:18<Chutt>he already did that
22:18<Chutt>mythtv needed to be modified to allow a < 1 GB buffer, is all
22:19<_shad>I had to modify tv.cpp to allow megs instead of gigs
22:19<_shad>ya
22:19<mdz_>heh
22:19<_shad>Hmm
22:19<_shad>it may be possible to have a diskless mythtv box now
22:19<_shad>nfsroot baby!
22:19<_shad>hehe
22:19<mdz_>umm
22:19<mdz_>:-)
22:19<_shad>Actually
22:19<_shad>I may just do that
22:20<mdz_>it's been possible to have a diskless mythtv box for as long as I've used it
22:20<_shad>mdz: you store stuff on a server?
22:21<_shad>I don't want any network congestion affecting my tv viewing :)
22:21<mdz_>Chutt: what's the range on the new decimation parameter?
22:21<mdz_>_shad: my mythtv box is diskless, has been from the very start
22:21<Chutt>1 2 or 4
22:21<mdz_>carp
22:21<mdz_>crap
22:22<mdz_>I don't have an integer select widget
22:22<Chutt>only 1 and 2 are useful, though
22:22<Chutt>heh
22:22<mdz_>I'll give it a range of 1-2 then
22:22<Chutt>yeah
22:22<Chutt>with a slider
22:22<_shad>mdz: How do you have it setup?
22:22<mdz_>_shad: NFS
22:22<Chutt>4 is like 178x120
22:22<Chutt>kinda pointless to record at anything that low
22:23<mdz_>agreed
22:23<Chutt>mdz, the decimation sets the resolution in the recorder code
22:23<_shad>mdz: do you do anything else with that box, or is it strictly mythtv?
22:23<mdz_>Chutt: separately from the normal width/height parameters?
22:23<Chutt>it overrides those
22:23<mdz_>_shad: it is almost dedicated, I play music and things on it sometimes outside of mythtv
22:23<mdz_>hmm
22:24<Chutt>blasphemer
22:24<Chutt>you must use mythmusic
22:24<_shad>haha
22:24<mdz_>so they are never used when hardware mjpeg is selected?
22:24<Chutt>basically
22:24<mdz_>I don't like to get up and go to the other room to use the remote to use mythmusic
22:24<Chutt>heh
22:24<mdz_>I just ssh over and run ogg123
22:24<mdz_>much faster to find the stuff I want too :-)
22:24<Chutt>i need to make it remote controllable
22:24<Chutt>so i can select stuff from mythweb
22:25<Chutt>steal some playlist editing junk from some other web music jukebox
22:25<mdz_>so I'm all ready to test the profile stuff, as soon as mythtv is idle
22:25<Chutt>excellent
22:26<mdz_>my mythtv system is a victim of its own success
22:26<mdz_>it is hard to do development because it is used a lot :-)
22:26<Chutt>heh
22:26<mdz_>I also synched up to latest CVS; no conflicts
22:26<Chutt>cool
22:27<Chutt>i need to get stuff stable and start checking it in sometime
22:27<Chutt>too bad real work keeps getting in the way
22:29<_shad>:)
22:35<mdz_>hmm, there's really no good reason why I can't test this without loading it onto my mythtv box
22:35<mdz_>except that I'm too lazy to write the code
22:35<Chutt>heh
22:41<mdz_>that Jack Valenti quote cracks me up
22:43<mirk_dt>I think I know why my mythgame is crashing.
22:43<mirk_dt>I have no entries in the gamemetadata table
22:44<_shad>gah. my ferret is licking me
22:44<Chutt>mirk_dt, quite possibly be the answer =)
22:44<_shad>I wanna play some snes games with mythgame
22:44<mirk_dt>how do I get the info for my roms (3000+) in the table?
22:45<Chutt>well, if you have the paths and everything setup, it should scan on startup if nothing's in the db
22:45<Chutt>i think
22:45<mirk_dt>checking paths...
22:46<_shad>mirk_dt: once you get it working, send me your roms. :)
22:46<mirk_dt>dang! I think I know what's going on!
22:46<mirk_dt>my roms are on my server mounted via nfs.
22:46<mirk_dt>by my normal user.
22:47<mdz_>and?
22:47<mirk_dt>but my normal user doesn't have access to the database.
22:47<_shad>heh
22:47<mirk_dt>so I run mythgame as root...
22:47<mirk_dt>but root doesn't have access to the nfs share!
22:47<mirk_dt>ack!
22:47<mirk_dt>anyone know how to set the database so it can be used by normal users?
22:48<Chutt>it's useable by normal users
22:48<lichen_>you dont have to, it just dpeends on the username used to login to the database
22:48<lichen_>i would say you could no_root_squash on the nfs export, but its better to just run it as the mythtv user anyhow
22:49<mirk_dt>hmm.
22:50<mirk_dt>well, ok. I was wrong. my normal user can access the db.
22:50<mirk_dt>sigh.
22:56<mdz_>Chutt: sent you a diff of my tree
22:56<mdz_>it came out a bit more complex than I anticipated, but it works ok
22:57<_shad>mdz: It's written in assembler?
22:57<_shad>:)
22:58<Chutt>heh
22:58<Chutt>going to leave out some of your debian changes when you check it in? =)
23:01<mdz_>yep
23:02<Chutt>why're you leaving some of the settings in the settings file?
23:02<Chutt>the commented out ones
23:04<mdz_>ignore the changes to settings.txt; those aren't going in
23:04<Chutt>why not?
23:04<mdz_>well, I guess they could
23:04<Chutt>no reason to have them there anymore
23:04<mdz_>yeah, they're not used
23:04<Chutt>just cause confusion
23:04<Chutt>might want to prefix the converter program with a myth
23:04<Chutt>just to make it obvious where it comes from
23:04<Chutt>since you're installing it
23:04<mdz_>I thought I had started removing other stuff (non-recording settings) as I was making classes for them
23:05<mdz_>which I wouldn't want to commit
23:05<mdz_>but it looks like I didn't
23:05<mdz_>all the debian changes are in there anyway
23:05<Chutt>the mc.sql stuff
23:05<Chutt>other than that, looks good
23:06<Chutt>and that's all minor minor stuff
23:06<mdz_>odd, I just ran it to test and got a segfault in playbackbox
23:06<mdz_>doesn't look related to my changes
23:07<Chutt>might be the different sized programinfo if stuff didn't clean out properly
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23:07<mdz_>yeah, I had to rip that out anyway, I should just revert it all
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23:11<mdz_>odd, I put all the viewscheduled stuff back and it still segfaults there
23:11<mdz_>#0 0x405bea22 in QWidget::width () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
23:11<mdz_>#1 0x0806c229 in PlaybackBox::PlaybackBox (this=0xbffff59c,
23:11<mdz_> context=0x8223390, ltv=0x8231298, ldb=0x8226000, ltype=<incomplete type>,
23:11<mdz_> parent=0x0, name=0x0) at playbackbox.cpp:252
23:11<mdz_>pixlabel is null for some reason
23:12<mdz_>oh, it's unrelated
23:12<mdz_>somehow I ended up with this in my settings: int GeneratePreviewPixmaps=1
23:12<mdz_>should be GeneratePreviewPixmap
23:12<mdz_>though I don't think it should segfault in this case :-)
23:13<Chutt>nope
23:13<Chutt>i thought that was fixed, though
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23:13<mirk_dt>woohoo! mythgame now working (sort of).
23:14<mirk_dt>I have a permissions problem with my database directory.
23:14<mirk_dt>sigh.
23:14<mirk_dt>currently set up only for mysql user
23:15<mdz_>ah, the default theme.txt is wrong
23:15<mdz_>that's how I ended up with the wrong setting name
23:15<mdz_>it has GeneratePreviewPixmaps in it
23:17<mdz_>Chutt: how do I tie an action to the SETTINGS RECORDING button?
23:17<mdz_>loading the profile for a scheduled recording seems to work
23:17<Chutt>main.cpp in the frontend
23:17<mdz_>haven't tested loading every setting or anything, but it gets the width and height and codec
23:17<Chutt>check out how the theme setting stuff works
23:19<mdz_>yep, doing it now
23:19<mdz_>just needed to know where to look
23:20<mdz_>I guess I need to make the editor a QDialog
23:20<Chutt>yup
23:20<mdz_>where does ThemeSetup get exec()
23:20<mdz_>?
23:20<mdz_>oh, it is qdialog
23:21<Chutt>yup
23:31<Chutt>actually, i should make a dialog class of my own
23:31<mdz_>do I really need to inherit from qlistview just to set up a binding for enter?
23:31<Chutt>put all the common code in it
23:31<mdz_>yeah, I was looking at that, there is stuff I could have used, but it would need to be split out
23:31<Chutt>spacePressed() enterPressed()
23:31<Chutt>i think?
23:32<Chutt>returnPressed()
23:32<Chutt>not enterPressed()
23:32<mdz_>hah, qdialog does not size itself well at all
23:32<Chutt>heh
23:32<Chutt>not a problem in mythtv =)
23:33<Chutt>at least, not in the rest of it
23:33<mdz_>I set it up to run the editor from the setup button, and it comes up just large enough for the column header and the scroll bar
23:33<mdz_>you can't see any of the listitems
23:33<Chutt>heh
23:33<Chutt>well, should set it to be the same size as everything else
23:34<mdz_>yep
23:34<mdz_>I'll just make it like themesetup and pass in the mythcontext and use that
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23:43<mdz_>hmm, there is no returnPressed
23:43<mdz_>at least not in QListView
23:44<Chutt>i'm pretty sure there is
23:44<Chutt>as i'm attaching to it several places
23:44<mdz_>QObject::connect: No such signal QListView::returnPressed()
23:44<Chutt>takes an arg
23:44<mdz_>ah, yep
23:45<mdz_>what are hmult/wmult ratios of?
23:46<mdz_>800x600? 640x480?
23:47<Chutt>800x600
23:48<mdz_>hmm, the wizard is very much not navigable without tab
23:48<mdz_>when focus moves to, say, a spinbox, you can't get out
23:48<Chutt>i'll fix all that
23:48<Chutt>at least, i'll try to =)
23:49<mdz_>and I can't get the listview to size itself properly
23:50<mdz_>I did what I thought was necessary from looking at viewscheduled
23:50<mdz_>it only has one column, I set it to be manual width mode and set the width explicitly
23:50<mdz_>but it is still microscopic
23:50<mdz_>I can nav it blind and select something and it brings up the wizard
23:50<mdz_>I should probably just put it in a box in the dialog, huh
23:51<Chutt>setting a height for it?
23:51<mdz_>hmm, nope :-)
23:51<mdz_>can I put a layout widget inside the dialog?
23:51<Chutt>of course
23:51<mdz_>that's what I do for the other stuff, and just let it fill the box
23:52<mdz_>just set it with the dialog as parent?
23:52<Chutt>yup
23:54<mdz_>ok, looks good
23:55<mdz_>for some reason, the first page of the wizard doesn't show up
23:57<mdz_>it used to