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00:26<Soopaman>evening
00:44<bigguy>hmm
00:44<bigguy>lo
00:44<bigguy>I've been having some real fun ;)
00:55<Soopaman>heheh
00:55<Soopaman>like what
01:02<bigguy>installing and tweaking winxp on a friends machine
01:03<bigguy>I also quieted my main machine a little
01:24<Soopaman>heh
01:50<OrangeSun>how did you quiet your main machine?
01:50<OrangeSun>Did you tell it that it had better shut up or you'd shut it up?
01:50<OrangeSun>usually works for me..
01:51<Soopaman>i usually threaten to pee on the machine
01:51<Soopaman>and it goes eerily silent
01:52<OrangeSun>hahahahaha! : )
02:05<bigguy>sorry had to do some things afk back now
02:06<Soopaman>this gcc is killing me
02:06<bigguy>I rerouted some cables to cut down on the air flow resistence in the case I put inline resisters on all the fans, and I made a fan duct to force air coming off the hsf out the back exhaust
02:07<bigguy>also put some gromets on the hdd rack to kinda quiet the drives
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04:41<mirk_dt_>Chutt: well, apologies. I meant to send a myth purge script to a buddy, but sent it to the list by accident. You can moderate it up if you feel like. Maybe someone else will find it useful. (Guess I should pay more attention before just hitting the "reply" button). sigh.
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09:23<rkulagow>morning. mdz, are you here?
09:24<rkulagow>chutt, are you here?
09:34<rkulagow>chutt, mdz: mdz's commit to settings.pro that removed the finline also changed prefix /usr/local to /usr. was that intentional?
09:36<nevertheless>as I said in the ML, i think it was a mistake by mdz
09:36<nevertheless>rkulagow: you better change that back
09:38<rkulagow>nevertheless: hadn't seen your message yet. i'm leary of straying "out of bounds"; my baliwick is doco. (even though by all appearances it seems like it _should_ be changed) if i don't see a commit in a little while i'll go ahead and reverse it.
09:39<nevertheless>I know, but this is a real problem, since many people now get bad linking errors or stuff when installing it ;)
09:40<nevertheless>and I don't remember them talking about the prefix yesterday, when they talked about the optimization stuff
09:40<rkulagow>right; i scrolled back and saw the same thing.
09:40<rkulagow>(about the finline discussion and gcc 2.95)
09:41<nevertheless>Its a good idea to keep out of others stuff, but I'm sure this was a mistake
09:41<nevertheless>right
09:43<rkulagow>well, i don't know what TZ MDZ is in - his DNS says "ne.client2.attbi", so i don't know if NE is "nebraska" or "north east". like i said, if i don't see a commit shortly i'll reverse that portion.
09:43<nevertheless>ok
10:20<nevertheless>ok, done, when this was no mistake, he can change it back
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12:18<mdz>rkulagow: yes, that was a mistake
12:19<rkulagow>ok, glad that i didn't reverse something that shouldn't have been.
12:20<ntl|afk>like I said ;-)
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13:14* paperclipis back (gone 01:40:29)
13:14* paperclipis away: watching my son play
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20:49<Justin_>are the allrecord, timeslotrecord tables used anymore?
20:51<Justin_>looks like 0-7-to-0.8 forgot to delete em
21:32<mdz>it didn't forget
21:38<Justin_>oh, are they needed for anything?
21:42<mdz>they are not
21:42<mdz>but there is no hurry to delete them
21:43<mdz>especially when that code is unreleased and the migration script hasn't been thoroughly tested
21:45<Justin_>ah:)
21:45<Justin_>i have nothing in em anyway
21:45<mdz>anyone who set up recordings using 0.7 or earlier will have entries there
21:46<mdz>and if for some reason they don't get migrated, or they try CVS and then go back to 0.7, they'll want them
21:46<mdz>there's no need to break forward compatibility
21:47<Justin_>ah, i see now:)
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22:22<rcaskey>hey all, does anyone know if mysql on debian has remote access disabled by defautl?
22:22<mdz>yes, it does
22:23<rcaskey>mdz: how can I enable ti?
22:23<mdz>it has skip-networking in /etc/mysql/my.cnf by default, comment it out to enable
22:23<rcaskey>do I need to add something to the cnf file?
22:23<rcaskey>ahh thx
22:23<mdz>there are directions in the file
22:59<Chutt>heh
22:59<Chutt>ok, so it's essentially impossible to embed a sdl display into a qt widget
23:00<mdz>maybe you should ask that SDL zealot who posted to the mailing list
23:00<mdz>I bet he knows how to do it :-P
23:01<mdz>cuz it rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
23:01<Chutt>i could fix sdl
23:01<Chutt>but, that'd be lame
23:01<Chutt>ah well
23:01<Chutt>i was trying to speed up the synaesthesia vis stuff
23:01<Chutt>since the original code had optional sdl output
23:01<mdz>can you have a qt widget with a fixed size that doesn't draw anything, and use its coordinates to make an SDL drawing area?
23:01<Chutt>and that'd be loads faster than displaying it how it is now
23:02<Chutt>i'd have to create an entirely new window
23:02<Chutt>and do the event processing through sdl
23:02<Chutt>which i can't really do with the current vis architecture in there
23:06<Chutt>hmm
23:06<Chutt>i wonder how hard it'd be to just use xv for it
23:07<Chutt>mdz, d'ya know if your radeon does a rgb32 xv mode?
23:08<mdz>not offhand, but I can find out easily enough
23:09<mdz> id: 0x41424752 (RGBA)
23:09<mdz> guid: 52474241-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
23:09<mdz> bits per pixel: 32
23:09<mdz> number of planes: 1
23:09<mdz> type: RGB (packed)
23:09<mdz> depth: 0
23:09<mdz>does that look about right?
23:09<Chutt>yeah
23:09<Chutt>hmm
23:09<Chutt>though
23:09<Chutt>this is palettized
23:09<Chutt>already
23:09<Chutt>i could just convert it to yuv
23:10<Chutt>ah well, something for later
23:10<Chutt>i was just idly playing around with it =)
23:19<poptix>Chutt: a little freevo bird told me that mythtv sucks due to it requiring X =p
23:19<Chutt>yeah, some people are stupid.
23:19<Chutt>but, that's ok
23:19<poptix>=)
23:20<bigguy>well I dunno if there is a directfb patch for qt but that could be cool ;)
23:20<Chutt>qt/e
23:20<bigguy>qt embedded?
23:20<poptix>well
23:20<Chutt>probably wouldn't be _that_ difficult to get things running
23:20<Chutt>except for the video display, of course
23:21<poptix>i'm happy with having X running, as compared to using freevo which has no PVR functions
23:21<bigguy>I've played with directfb it's nice esp if you have one of the hardware eccelerated cards
23:21<Chutt>if you've got a good enough box to encode video in real time
23:21<bigguy>got gimp running on it
23:21<Chutt>you've got a good enough box to run x
23:22<Chutt>the additional overhead is minimal
23:22<bigguy>it's just alot more stuff to get if you are doing a net install ;)
23:23<bigguy>wsp if you are on dial up
23:23<bigguy>esp
23:23<bigguy>but I don't care
23:23<bigguy>for some reason I had problems with linux on my nforce board
23:23<bigguy>with 2.4.20
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23:24<Chutt>i'm using 2.4.20-pre10-ac1
23:24<Chutt>on mine
23:24<Chutt>haven't had a reason to upgrade since mid october :)
23:24<bigguy>the well 2.4.19 and the 2.4.18bf2.4 did the same thing so ;)
23:24<poptix>Chutt: i installed the preempt patch
23:25<poptix>mythtv runs a lot better
23:25<bigguy>Linux craziness 2.4.20-ck2 #1 Sat Feb 15 15:14:08 CST 2003 i686 GenuineIntel Celeron GNU/Linux
23:25<poptix>i've got a problem with something else causing a kernel oops though
23:25<bigguy>thats my gateway tho
23:26<bigguy>got my firewall stuff setup early this morning
23:26<bigguy>that was fun
23:35<poptix>i suppose i should take a look at this LCD stuff in mythtv
23:37<bigguy>poptix: I might try it when I get sat. I have a VFD 20x4 lines
23:37<bigguy>course I dunno if there is support for my vfd in linux
23:37<bigguy>might have to try and write something for it
23:38<Chutt>i need to go through and fix all of thor's indenting crap
23:38<bigguy>heh
23:38<bigguy>Chutt: is it that bad?
23:39<Chutt>no, it just looks bad when he uses tabs and i don't
23:41<bigguy>set up some guidelines for developers code
23:51<Chutt>and he doesn't need a 3 line comment for every single place he touched the code =)
23:51<bigguy>heh