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00:37<rkulagow_>Chris Pinkham completed the "FindCommercial" stub I'd left behind in the NuppleVideoPlayer code. If it works, he deserves 99% of the credit, since I think the only thing I actually contributed was the variance function.
00:46<mdz>hmm
00:46<mdz>QTime::setHMS Invalid time 28:20:00.000
00:46<mdz>QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 2935/93/02
00:46<mdz>wonder where those are coming from
00:50<Justin_>I use use edit mode to skip commercials
00:50<Justin_>using binary search with the keyboard :)
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15:07<PeteCool>was Synthaesia just converted to SDL or something? I'm getting more than 5fps!
15:07* PeteCooldidn't think a gf2mx 400 sdr was so slow
15:07<PeteCool>still, much better :)
15:08<Chutt>did you enable sdl with configure?
15:08<PeteCool>and gears magically started working
15:08<PeteCool>Chutt: yep
15:08<Chutt>i fixed gears
15:09<Chutt>and yeah, using sdl w/ synaethesia makes it use a lot less cpu
15:09<PeteCool>but now I can see the mouse pointer... seems like I'll be removing the mouse from my XF86Config :)
15:09<Chutt>where can you see the pointer?
15:10<PeteCool>In sdl synthaesia
15:10<PeteCool>it doesn't disappear like everywhere else
15:10<Chutt>it doesn't show up for me..
15:10<Chutt>hmm
15:12<PeteCool>setting MonoScope as the viz shows up as Synthaesia
15:13<rkulagow_>chutt: remember that issue where help text wasn't disappearing on the setup screen with GUI width? looks like it's a qt3.1 vs 3.0 issue. test box is running Mandrake 9.1/QT 3.1.1 and the help text is updated correctly.
15:13<PeteCool>Chutt: is it possible to put my streaming .pls files into mythmusic ?
15:14<Chutt>petecool, nope
15:14<Chutt>and, setting it to monoscope works fine for me..
15:14<Chutt>did you make distclean?
15:14<PeteCool>a few times
15:14<Chutt>and, are you running it from something other than the mythmusic/mythmusic/ dir?
15:14<PeteCool>more than once
15:15<PeteCool>it's running from /etc/init.d/local starts it (wherever that is
15:17<PeteCool>Chutt: what video card are you using? nforce1 ?
15:17<Chutt>a gf4
15:18<PeteCool>Chutt: did you have time to work on the re-encoding lately?
15:18<Chutt>nope
15:20<PeteCool>seems like the vis needs to be restarted twice for the settings change to apply
15:21<PeteCool>monoscope and stereoscope are fine now... user error
15:22<Chutt>it doesn't reread the config file ever =)
15:23<PeteCool>random changed to exactly what I set the config file to, at least 5 times !! =)
15:24<PeteCool>That's what made me think it re-read the file
15:27<PeteCool>great work on the viz's, mythmusic-coders :)
15:28<PeteCool>and, Chutt, thanks a lot for MythTV :)
15:43<PeteCool>another thing which might be cool in mythmusic is optionally writing to the screen the song's title/name/etc when switching
15:45<Chutt>right
15:45<Chutt>want to do that eventually
15:49<Chutt>there's just 3 different ways the plugins are drawing right now, so i don't think a generic way to do it will work =)
15:56<Chutt>if anyone wants to suggest any existing open source vis plugins, i'm open to porting one or two..
15:57<Chutt>well, as long as it's really doing vis stuff, and reactive to the music =)
16:12<hurdel>is there an easier way to ensure RH8 users get the themes rather than manually removing the "strip" commands from the theme makefile?
16:13<hurdel>or is that just a symptom of code in cvs?
16:14<Chutt>it's a bug in qmake that redhat hasn't patched like everyone else
16:32<hurdel>figures, RH has so many caveats when you install mythtv it's unbelievable
16:40<mdz>Chutt: isn't the hostname field in the settings table matched against gethostname()?
16:40<Chutt>no
16:40<mdz>that guy on the list is claiming that something changed when he added a row with hostname='localhost'
16:41<Chutt>mdz, that would override backend_settings.txt
16:41<Chutt>is all
16:42<Chutt>oh, wait
16:42<Chutt>yeah
16:42<Chutt>that's true
16:42<mdz>so unless his host is named localhost, that shouldn't have had any effect
16:42<Chutt>well
16:43<Chutt>unless he was using older code before the per-host stuff went in
16:43<mdz>unless he's running code that ignores it
16:43<mdz>I'm surprised nobody whined about how all their settings went away when the per-host code went in
16:43<mdz>or maybe they whined on -users
16:43<Chutt>nobody has
16:44<Chutt>all these xmms vis plugins aren't reactive to music
16:44<mdz>the synaesthesia one is
16:44<Chutt>which is why i like it =)
16:44<Chutt>but i've downloaded half a dozen, and most of them just suck
16:45<mdz>yep
16:45<Chutt>the ones that look nice aren't reactive at _all_
16:45<mdz>yeah, like the GOOM one
16:45<mdz>nice looking, but seems like basically an animation
16:45<Chutt>nebulus, nice open-gl
16:45<Chutt>but basically just displays stuff
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16:56<shad_>hmm
16:57<shad_>I hate computers
16:57<shad_>:)
16:59<shad_> 16:59:24 up 89 days, 16:25, 9 users, load average: 4.00, 4.00, 4.00
16:59<shad_>My nice idle system :(
17:00<bigguy>whats running?
17:01<bigguy>and what kernel?
17:06<PeteCool>Chutt: there are some plugins that draw nice stuff and is reactive to the music (less than the scopes, more like what I see of synesthaesia)
17:10<PeteCool>Chutt: would it add too much "crap" to use/port xmms-winamp (I think you'd only need to change where/how it sends the output), it would open the place for many great winamp plugins
17:10<PeteCool>would be slower though
17:11<PeteCool>Chutt: what about G-Force viz plugin, it's already ported, IIRC it was cool AND reactive
17:11<Chutt>url to the source?
17:13<PeteCool>Chutt: the link on xmms.org is outdated (404), hang on
17:14<shad_>bigguy: Well, my brother decided to drag and drop /var out of the way, and once I moved it back, my system isn't too happy :)
17:15<PeteCool>I got a src.rpm: http://packman.links2linux.de/index.php4?action=133 if you want a real .tgz you'll have to wait some more... seems the plugin was abandoned a while ago
17:18<PeteCool>Chutt: I'm running it now in winamp, and it is reactive and nice-looking... trying to switch configs is ugly though
17:19<PeteCool>Chutt: there you go: http://diddl.firehead.org/software/unix/media/xmms/visualization/
17:20<PeteCool>you'll find gforce 1.1.6 + patches, I didn't look at what they do though
17:20<Chutt>ok
17:26<PeteCool>Chutt: seems like not all configs are very reactive... we'll just have to dump them, I could take care of that (not for a week though)
17:31<PeteCool>whoa, I overclocked mem and gpu by 10mhz each, very noticeable improvement
17:34<PeteCool>very weird how such a small difference can turn a slideshow into a real viz =)
17:35<bigguy>some vidcard overclocking tool for linux?
17:37<PeteCool>nvclock
17:37<PeteCool>'nvclock -m 185 -n 220' for my gf2mx400
17:39<bigguy>ah
17:39<bigguy>don't own any nv cards except for an old tnt2
17:40<bigguy>don't like proprietary drivers on my linux boxen
17:41<PeteCool>bigguy: what card are you using? matrox g200/400 ?
17:41<PeteCool>bigguy: I don't like it either, but it's the only way I could afford it and still be practical
17:41<bigguy>ATI 9000Pro in my workstation
17:42<bigguy>but I don't use linux on it so
17:42<bigguy>had problems with linux and it
17:42<PeteCool>bigguy: ohh... yeah, you don't use myth yet... I've got a radeon8500 on my desktop too, the latest dri drivers run Quake3 just as fast as on Windows :)
17:42<PeteCool>bigguy: in gentoo it's even easy to do ;)
17:42<bigguy>some of my cards wouldn't work in linux that are supported by linux on that board
17:43<bigguy>heh I'm a debian man myself
17:43<PeteCool>uh? please rephrase that, it's weird
17:43<PeteCool>bigguy: debian on my p100 router/mail server (>240 days uptime !)
17:43<bigguy>If I want ports I've got my openbsd box
17:43<bigguy>PeteCool: rephrase what?
17:44<PeteCool>this: "some of my cards wouldn't work in linux that are supported by linux on that board"
17:44<bigguy>also I am not a gamer
17:44<bigguy>I have a Abit Nf7-133r like what chutt has
17:44<PeteCool>Radeon 9000 under linux works great for my friend
17:45<bigguy>I have some cards that I've used before on other boards while in linux
17:45<bigguy>but they don't show up or they do show up but don't work with what settings the kernel gets
17:46<bigguy>and I'm not talking about my radeon
17:46<bigguy>but I'm not a gamer
17:46<PeteCool>Chutt: so does G-Force code make sense?
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17:46<bigguy>I get very sick if I try to play some games FPS being one of those
17:48<bigguy>I think I suffer from petty mal ceisures if I play them
17:49<PeteCool>weird
17:49<bigguy>anyway the cards that I tried using under linux on this nforce board kept changeing configs every boot
17:49<bigguy>and the pci hardware modem wouldn't work at all
17:50<bigguy>and I've used it undel linux before so ;)
17:51<bigguy>so I'm just using XP pro on it right now
17:51<bigguy>the dvd ripping tools and cad tools are better anyway ;)
17:54<bigguy>anyway I'm afk till after 10pm CST. Got EMT class tonight
17:56<PeteCool>should I increase core clock or mem clock to improve the viz?
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19:56<hurdel>is mc.sql always the complete database when using cvs?
19:58<Chutt>if starting from scratch, yes
20:00<hurdel>thanks Chutt
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20:21<hurdel>i'm getting this error trying to compile mythvideo "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llirc_client", do i have to have lirc enabled?
20:24<Chutt>just edit mythvideo.pro
20:24<Chutt>and remove the bit that says -llirc_client
20:25<Chutt>or update to current cvs
20:25<Chutt>as i just fixed that =)
20:50<Chutt>petecool, the license for the gforce plugin is very, very iffy =)
21:51<hurdel>thanks for fixing the mythvideo chutt
21:57<rkulagow_>chutt, i've reworked the mythbackend duplex check. i think it does what you want.
22:02<Chutt>cool
22:02<Chutt>send it, i'll check it out tomorrow morning
22:02<rkulagow_>already mailed it.
22:06<PeteCool>Chutt: what about JESS ?
22:08<PeteCool>Chutt: or any of those in the url I sent you... most of the good one I know are there, so the others can't be too bad
22:16<PeteCool>Chutt: I'll boot my main box into linux in a few minutes and try those plugins, see which are good and which are not
22:25<PeteCool>Chutt: do you know if Java and C++/Qt are close in terms of how you code them?
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22:44<PeteCool>Chutt: blursk is nice
22:57<moegreen>PeteCool: java and c++/qt are similar in some ways. The GUI building code is very similar (in the fact that there are layout managers, etc).
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23:38<PeteCool>anybody knows of and xdm-like program (X login manager) that can do auto-login (kdm could do it, but it has BIG dependencies)
23:39<bigguy>hmmnope
23:39<bigguy>umm nope
23:39<bigguy>couldn't you do something like that with shell scripts?
23:40<PeteCool>it worked earlier, now for no reason it doesn't want to work anymore
23:40<bigguy>I only see xdm once in a blue moon so I don't really care about autologin
23:40<bigguy>but there are others that live here so I doubt I'd want it
23:41<bigguy>I don't even have X on some of my boxen ;)