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00:02<inman>ah, and now the selection bar works. booyah.
00:05-!-bigguy is now known as gezick1
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00:08<Chutt>anyone know if there's ever 2 big selection boxes on the OSD at once?
00:09<inman>you mean like the program-manager hiearchy?
00:09<Chutt>no, in the video
00:09<inman>i know, but i can't think of two in video
00:10<inman>a tree like that could exist in video in the future, but i don't remember seeing it in nathan's stuff, eg.
00:10<Chutt>i should just allow multiple ones
00:10<Chutt>ah well
00:10<Chutt>more work
00:11<inman>the bug in moegreen's stuff is now only that 0MB is displayed when the list is empty.
00:22<PeteCool>moegreen: after deleting a show, the focused show is out of bounds, on the upper overlay line (the list isn't scrollable when it does that - didn't try with a scrollable list)
00:23<inman>i have a patch; just going to email it to him directly.
00:26-!-Toxic-Byebye-OPN is now known as NonToxic
00:39<gimpy>couldn't open db
00:39<gimpy>what..does that mean
00:39<gimpy>when i load mythtv
00:39<inman>how are you loading mythtv?
00:40<Chutt>it means that the data in mysql.txt doesn't allow it to log into the mysql server
00:40<gimpy>in bash i just type mythtv
00:40<inman>there's been a spate of users who are typing `mythtv` versus mythbackend+mythfrontend.
00:40* inmanwinks.
00:40<Chutt>it tries to open the database before it connects to the backend
00:41<Chutt>so not running mythbackend won't give you that error
00:41<inman>ah, you're right.
00:41<gimpy>i just type mythtv but i tried mythfrontend and backend and got the same error
00:41<Chutt>gimpy, read what i wrote.
00:42<gimpy>im reading the mysql.txt file
00:42<gimpy>..dont know what the hell to do, because i never used mysql but i did install it
00:43<Chutt>you need to figure out how mysql's setup, then
00:45<inman>is there a semantic reason for having ChannelOrdering as well as ChannelSorting settings?
00:45<Chutt>someone in the .uk wanted em separate
00:45<Chutt>i don't really know why
00:45<gimpy>hmm i dont get this mysql deal.. i type mysql and get some.. socket header error in /var/blah blah
00:45<gimpy>ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
00:45<inman>that's what i thought
00:46<inman>gimpy: is mysqld running?
00:46<gimpy>nope
00:47<inman>gimpy: it should.
00:47<gimpy>it isnt =/ i cant get it to load
00:47<gimpy>ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
00:47<inman>no
00:47<inman>that's a client error.
00:47<inman>you should have an /etc/init.d/mysql* or a /some/where/safe_mysqld script which will launch the server.
00:47<inman>what distro and where did the mysql package come from?
00:48<Chutt>this is why people shouldn't be compiling stuff from source :p
00:48<Chutt>inman, slack, iirc
00:48* inmannods.
00:48<gimpy>slackware and from slackware packages
00:50<inman>Chutt: any reason the EPG shouldn't list the complete (5 versus 3) character channum in the EPG? space worries?
00:50<gimpy>Okay i loaded mysql
00:50<gimpy>still get the same.. couldn't open db =/
00:50<Chutt>gimpy, really, use a real distro
00:51<inman>are you sure mysqld is running?
00:51<Chutt>you wouldn't have had to waste hours recompiling qt
00:51<Chutt>mysql would work out of the box
00:51<Chutt>etc
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00:51<Captain_Murdoch>would it make sense for the record table to have a "day of the week" field? sometimes there are shows that normally come on on X day at Y time but occasionally a rerun on Z day at same Y time. seems like there's should be a "Record every week on this channel, day, and time option."
00:51<inman>Chutt: sometimes we're tied to distros we don't like. :-(
00:51<Captain_Murdoch>or I guess a new type indicating to look at the day of the week on the startdate
00:52<inman>Captain_Murdoch: you mean like reruns on mon-thurs and a new episode on fri?
00:52<Captain_Murdoch>inman: exactly
00:52<inman>Captain_Murdoch: this is one of those things that TiVo does so well. :-/
00:52<Captain_Murdoch>dont' want to waste space on the reruns even if I haven't recorded them already.
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00:53<Chutt>record stuff with episode information
00:53<inman>i can't find episode information
00:53<Chutt>i don't really want to add yet another record type
00:53<Chutt>4s enough
00:54<inman>it's too bad the xmltv grabbers vary so greatly between regions.
00:54<inman>Chutt: see my query re: channum->EPG/
00:54<Chutt>inman, what channums are > 3 chars?
00:55<inman>Chutt: someone in eu complained about needing 4
00:55<Chutt>there's no reason, other than i figured most things just needed 3
00:55<Captain_Murdoch>seems like "always record this program on this channel" and "always record this program anywhere" are the same thing except that the chanid would be filled in for the former
00:55<inman>is the char(5) a limit we should extend and then only retrieve 4?
00:56<inman>mythweb, for example, could use the extra definition, if it comes to us from XMLTV.
00:56<inman>Captain_Murdoch: right.
00:56<inman>there are >5char channums in XMLTV.
00:57<Chutt>channum is the remote-enterable id
00:57<inman>looks like 6 is the max
00:57<Chutt>at least, that's what it's meant to be
00:57<Chutt>the tuneable id
00:57<inman>okay
00:57<inman>oh, i was confusing callsign with channum
00:57<inman>anyway, this is a purely euro problem and 4 seems to be enough.
00:58<Chutt>longest channel in frequencies.c is 4 characters
00:58<inman>yeah i was being dumb.
00:58<inman>but the poster was in .de, so...
00:59<inman>want a patch?
00:59<Chutt>sure, long as it still retains the functionality of entering 3 digits on the keypad and instantly switching channels
00:59<Chutt>err, nm, i took that out
01:00<Chutt>didn't it
01:00<Chutt>i
01:00<inman>dunno, no way to test atm.
01:01<Chutt>heh
01:01<inman>obviously, that'd introduce ambiguities.
01:01<Chutt>big long email 'is this bug fixed?'
01:06<gimpy>Now that i am recompiling mysql from source.. does that mean i have to recompile qt from source??
01:06<gimpy>again*
01:06<inman>pretty much, yeah.
01:06<Chutt>why are you recompiling mysql?
01:06* gimpygoes insane
01:06<gimpy>because.. it wont work.. it wont load
01:07<inman>your mysql problem is solvable.
01:07<gimpy>it loads.. then kills itself
01:07<inman>you can specify the socket yourself, if necessary (it shouldn't be).
01:07<gimpy>because like.. it isnt running under the right user or something.. i tried chown -R mysql on the /var/lib/mysql
01:07<inman>gimpy: debug the problem. it's cheaper than going insane.
01:07<inman>check your logs. read the startup scripts to see where the logs are.
01:08<gimpy>okay
01:08<gimpy>ill do that
01:09<gimpy>dont feel like recompiling qt again heh
01:09<Chutt>so would be installing mandrake or redha
01:09<Chutt>redhat
01:10<bigguy>gimpy: what distro are you using anyway?
01:10<gimpy>slack but.. a mix between 8.1 and 9
01:10<gimpy>updating my deps manually doesnt bother me.. i find shit like this fun i guess
01:10<bigguy>yeah sure
01:11<inman>give it a few years. gets old pretty quick.
01:11<Chutt>but you can't do it =)
01:11<gimpy>usually its fun.. this has taken me 2 days (2 hrs total) basiclly hehe
01:11<bigguy>That's why I stopped using slackware and developing biglinux
01:11<gimpy>ill do it.
01:11<Chutt>if you can do it without asking anymore questions in here, i'll be surprised
01:12<bigguy>but I didn't use redhat much
01:12<gimpy>hey.. atleast i finally got mythtv to compile.. after redoing parts of every makefile
01:12<bigguy>been with debian for a long time
01:12<Chutt>the makefiles are generated on your machine
01:12<Chutt>you shouldn't have to modify them at all, unless your install of qt is broken.
01:12<bigguy>but for a few problems with some maintainers debian was perfect for me
01:12<gimpy>ya i just cant get with why it isnt including my X11R6 include dir
01:13<gimpy>naw qt is fine.. thats been fixed
01:13<Chutt>qt is what's generating the makefiles.
01:14<gimpy>..even the includes for everything like.. X11R6?
01:15<Chutt>yup
01:24<gimpy>k.. i got sql to load
01:24<gimpy>=O
01:24<gimpy>except when i do mythtv.. get couldnt open db still
01:25<inman>check the credentials in mysql.txt match.
01:26<inman>use the mysql monitor (`mysql`) to verify credentials, or `mysqlaccess`.
01:32<gimpy>like.. mysql mysql.txt?
01:32<gimpy>or mysqlaccess mysql.txt
01:32<inman>no, edit the mysql.txt
01:32<Chutt>you did create the mythtv database like it says to in the docs, right?
01:32<inman>make sure the options there are viable.
01:33<gimpy>is there like a readme.. so i can just shut up
01:33* inmancackles.
01:33<inman>you haven't been following the docs on mythtv.org?
01:33<gimpy>;/
01:35<inman>those will help.
01:38<gimpy>/usr/share/mythtv/database
01:38<gimpy>..why dont i even have that directory
01:38<Chutt>because you're looking in the wrong directory for it?
01:39<gimpy>cd /usr/local/share/mythtv/
01:39<gimpy>doesnt have database.
01:39<gimpy>and thats where mysql.txt is
01:39<Chutt>where does it say to look in there for the database/ subdir?
01:39<gimpy>mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql
01:39<gimpy>says copy it
01:40<Chutt>that's for gentoo.
01:40<gimpy>maybe i should sleep.
01:44<gimpy>[root:/usr/local/share/mythtv]: mythbackend
01:44<gimpy>No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
01:44<gimpy>Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page
01:44<gimpy>of the general settings.
01:44<gimpy>atleast.. im getting somewhere
01:44<gimpy>..sorta
01:45<Chutt>what do you mean, sorta?
01:45<inman>if your db is happy, setup should proceed more smoothly.
01:45<inman>heh
01:46<inman>is chris derossi going to do the manual-recording-on-arbitrary-inputs stuff or should i finish that?
01:46<Chutt>he said he was going to finish it
01:47<inman>i saw that. wondering if you know anything more about it.
01:49<Chutt>inman, the guy you responded to just now is the same one that said moving to 4 characters fixed the problem
01:49<gimpy>[gimpy:~]$ mythbackend
01:49<gimpy>No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
01:49<gimpy>Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page
01:49<gimpy>of the general settings.
01:50<Chutt>did you run setup?
01:50<gimpy>..setup?
01:50<Chutt>like, why should i bother writing error messages if you're just going to ignore them?
01:50<gimpy>im reading the doc
01:50<gimpy>it said setup
01:50<gimpy>but i dont know. what setup is
01:51<inman>Chutt: that explain alot -- i couldn't find his original email.
01:51<Chutt>different list
01:51<inman>Chutt: did you want a one-line patch for that?
01:51<Chutt>well, it's more than one line
01:52<Chutt>since it only allows 3 character channels when you're typing them in
01:52<Chutt>gimpy, perhaps you missed the big section where it says:
01:52<Chutt>'Switch to the setup directory and run the setup program:
01:52<Chutt> $ cd setup
01:52<Chutt> $ ./setup
01:52<Chutt>like, it can't get any more obvious than that
01:52<inman>heh
01:52<Chutt>it even tells you what to type in
01:53<inman>man, i thought /i/ was a nuisance. :-P
01:53* inmanpats gimpy on his head.
01:53<gimpy>well.. it loaded
01:53<inman>you da man
01:53<gimpy>then i exited it
01:53<inman>good thinking.
01:53<gimpy>now when i type mythtv.. gives same error
01:53<inman>wouldn't want to make any progress or anything...
01:54<inman>Chutt: i don't know offhand where the problem is i'd be fixing, but i will do it if you don't want to.
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01:54<Chutt>inman, should be obvious, i believe it's there's a 3 or 4 character static array in tv_play
01:54<inman>gimpy: read the docs and complete the setup.
01:54<inman>i saw that
01:55<Chutt>just have to increase the size by one and change where it's limiting it to 3 characters
01:55<inman>oh, i thought you had some magic stuff going on elsewhere.
01:55<Chutt>not that i know of
01:55<inman>i thought his original post complained about the epg.
01:55<inman>maybe i was just subconciously merging the two.
01:55<Chutt>there's a place where it comes back from the epg (still in tv_play) where it limits it to 3 chars
01:56<inman>"comes back from the epg"? you mean when someone 'm's a program?
01:56<Chutt>yup
01:56<inman>the epg isn't retrieving the channel data, is it? it just uses the tvrec obj?
01:57<Chutt>it retrievs the channel data itself
01:57<Chutt>erk, i can spell
01:57<inman>ah, i figured that was a problem.
01:57<Chutt>why would that be a problem?
01:58<inman>i thought it was only retrieving the leftmost 3 chars.
01:58<inman>then channel changes would be ambiguous...
01:58* inmanhasn't read the code; going only on the bug report.
01:58<Chutt>ah
01:58<Chutt>right
01:59<Chutt>it's just the tv_play object cutting back the return to 3 chars to fit that static array
01:59<inman>i thought that's what the user said they patched to fix the problem...?
01:59<Chutt>right
02:00<inman>what's the key to deselect search strings in vim?
02:00<inman>eg. after a successful search.
02:00<Chutt>dunno
02:01<inman>thanks anyway. i always /asdfasdjfjasg
02:01* inmangiggles.
02:05<Chutt>ah well
02:05<Chutt>got the dialog box working properly
02:06<Chutt>time for bed
02:06<inman>cool, g'nite
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07:21<poptix>Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 4119810048/4119810048 (2011626 sectors).
07:21<poptix>Writing time: 1552.602s
07:21<poptix>Average write speed 1.9x.
07:21<poptix>fun
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07:34<uli>hi
07:34<uli>i have the impression that mythtv does not handle spaces in channel names in xmltv correctly
08:18<poptix>sounds about right
08:18<poptix>unless someone fixed it
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11:11<uli>is anyone here who knows about filldata.cpp of mythfilldatabase?
11:13<mdz>as opposed to the other source files that make up mythfilldatabase?
11:15<TheAsp>heh
11:15<uli>i am just wondering about something in the function parseProgram
11:16<uli>the channelname is read from the xmltv-file, and then only the part in front of the first space is taken
11:16<uli>but in german xmltv-files there are channelnames with spaces
11:16<uli>so this seems to be broken
11:17<Chutt>use that nxtvepg or whatnot
11:17<Chutt>apparently the tv_grab_de grabbed produces bad program data, too
11:17<uli>bad in which way?
11:18<Chutt>wrong programs
11:18<Chutt>incorrect times
11:18<Chutt>check the mailing lists
11:19<Chutt>mdz, heh, so attempting to upgrade oz via the package manager just messed the _entire_ thing up
11:19<Chutt>i've got dangling symlinks in /etc/init.d now
11:20<TheAsp>mdz, your init script doesn't kill off the backend
11:21<Soopaman>Chutt, mdz, is there any reason why backend and front end are completely seperated?
11:22<Soopaman>aren't there any functions that are shared between them?
11:23<TheAsp>uh
11:27<Soopaman>or am i still drunk from last nite...
11:27<TheAsp>you are.
11:27<TheAsp>:P
11:27* Soopamanstarts drinking, rather than sippoing, on his water..
11:27<Soopaman>i was worried about that ;)
11:27<TheAsp>:)
11:28<TheAsp>they do share a library or two
11:33<Soopaman>hmm... i wish there were context diagrams or something for the myth system
11:33<TheAsp>Buy rose, it'll make a nice picture for you
11:33<Soopaman>rose?
11:34<Soopaman>url
11:34<Soopaman>?
11:34<TheAsp>rational rose...
11:34<TheAsp>www.rational.com?
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11:35<Soopaman>is it an ibm app?
11:35<TheAsp>is now aparently
11:36<Soopaman>heh
11:36<TheAsp>personally i hate it
11:36<TheAsp>i think the ui is crap
11:36<TheAsp>but i love uml diagrams
11:36<Soopaman>heh
11:36<TheAsp>the udp sucks though
11:36<Soopaman>i use visio
11:36* Soopamanis actually using it as we speak
11:37<Soopaman>uml diagrams rule
11:37<TheAsp>dia is good, and there are scripts to make c++/java/perl from it's diagrams
11:38<TheAsp>autodia can make diagrams of existing code, but doesnt work very well
11:38<Soopaman>scripts to do wha?
11:38<Soopaman>oh
11:38<TheAsp>reverse/forward enginering...
11:39<Soopaman>ahhh, solid
11:39<Soopaman>we should try to run that on myth
11:39<TheAsp>like i said, it doesn't do a good job
11:39<Soopaman>and see what it spits out
11:39<TheAsp>atleast on perl
11:39<Soopaman>heheh
11:45<inman>it's no wonder it pukes on perl.
11:45<TheAsp>it doesn't puke on perl, just creates too many relationships
11:46<inman>that's what i meant.
11:46<inman>it's too easy to write ugly perl.
11:46<TheAsp>uhh
11:46<TheAsp>that has nothing to do with perl
11:46<inman>doesn't the program have to parse it?
11:46<TheAsp>yes . . .
11:47<inman>well...
11:47<TheAsp>well its not perl's fault it creates too many relationships
11:47<inman>you think it's trivial to write a perl parser?
11:47<inman>sure it is.
11:47<inman>they shouldn't have laden so much syntactic sugar into the damn language.
11:47<inman>it's a mess.
11:47<TheAsp>do you know what a UML diagram is?
11:47* inmangroans.
11:48<inman>this conversation is a waste of time.
11:48<TheAsp>heh
11:48<TheAsp>whatever
11:49<TheAsp>ANYWAY... autodia doesn't try to layout the diagram at all so you have to do some work to get it to look pretty
11:49<TheAsp>which is of course, perls fault, right andy?
11:52<inman>this post by dbakker is a trip
11:57<Soopaman>eheheheh
11:59<TheAsp>hah, didnt he post a few days ago complaining that myth was 2 seconds behind live tv?
12:02<inman>you mean in addition to his post today?
12:03<inman>or did that message just get delayed enroute to me?
12:16<TheAsp>a few days ago
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12:20<inman>someone should really fix that 2sec bug. :-)
12:20<Chutt>heh
12:25<moegreen>Chutt
12:26<moegreen>err, the seg fault error people are seeing is at this line: QString filename = pginfo->pathname;
12:26<Chutt>pginfo is invalid
12:26<Chutt>looks to be that the update thing isn't testing to see if there's a valid selection yet
12:26<Ndiin>null pointers are fun.
12:26<moegreen>ok, i'll add a check for that
12:27<Chutt>curitem is invalid, rather
12:27<moegreen>i can just do a, if (!pginfo), right?
12:28<Chutt>well, i'd move the check up further
12:28<Chutt>to test for curitem
12:28<Chutt>not pginfo
12:28<Chutt>and initialize curitem to null in the constructor
12:29<moegreen>i've added the curitem = NULL;
12:30<moegreen>Chutt: So this seg fault is probably happening right when they enter the Watch Recroings screen?
12:31<Chutt>or come back to it after watching something, apparently
12:31<TheAsp>yeah
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12:32<moegreen>TheAsp: alright, it's in cvs, try it out and let me know
12:32<TheAsp> ok
12:32<Ndiin>moegreen: Oh, I wanted to mention: If you delete a show (at least using 'D' from Play type, but probably the same in both) the selected item gets moved down one, but the list gets adjusted up one, so the selection jumps by 2
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12:33<TheAsp>i had a show i didnt want to delete get deleted last night, dont know if i did it or not
12:33<moegreen>TheAsp: it will always ask and you have to select 'Yes I want to get rid of it' button
12:36<moegreen>Ndiin: I'll look into that, i make a call to the cursorDown() function after the delete, but I also decrease the listitems variable, so that could be causing the problem ... but at least you're close to where you were :)
12:36<Ndiin>hehe
12:37<inman>moegreen: that quickie i sent you look right?
12:37<moegreen>inman: i just saw it, I'm a little confused what it is doing ...
12:38<inman>it just puts the tail of the function into the if/else re: whether there are items or not.
12:38<inman>fixes a printing of "0 MB" in the top-right corner in the "no recordings" case.
12:39<moegreen>oh, ok, so if there are no recordings it is still printing the 0 MB?
12:39<Chutt>moegreen, you still use your osd?
12:39<inman>the patch moves a } and indents some code, that's it.
12:39<moegreen>Chutt: yeah
12:39<inman>moegreen: right.
12:39<Chutt>i'm going to be breaking it soonish =)
12:39<moegreen>Chutt: sounds good :)
12:39<Chutt>but, i'll see if i can fix it
12:39<Chutt>you can define as many fonts as you want, any text field can be assigned to any font, etc
12:40<Chutt>as many images as you want in each of the 'screens'
12:40<moegreen>Chutt: I assume you're adding osd functionality - which will be good
12:40<Chutt>the positioning is actually correct now
12:40<Chutt>instead of the weird was it was scaling before
12:41<Chutt>i just want to add multiple ttf support
12:41<Chutt>as it's just using one now, with different styles applied to it
12:41<Chutt>then i'll get stuff checked in
12:43<moegreen>Chutt: yeah, it was a bit strange defining the positions on the screen
12:43<Chutt>heh
12:43<Chutt>now, it's all abolulte on a 640x480 virtual screen
12:43<Chutt>and that gets scaled to whatever you're actually viewing, depending on the overscan settings and stuff
12:43<moegreen>Chutt: another nice addition to the osd would be a field for the length of time the show is (like a '4:30 pm - 5:30 pm' text)
12:44<Chutt>yeah
12:44<Chutt>stuff like that can be added pretty easily
12:44<moegreen>or even a '23 minutes remaining'
12:44<Chutt>i'm just going to get the framework in place, then work with nziarek to make it purdy
12:44<moegreen>heh, that's my philosophy :)
12:45<Chutt>i'm _probably_ going to make iulius the default theme
12:45<Chutt>and just put blue/liquid in separate downloads
12:45<inman>why a .9 release soon, Chutt? what's in the ChangeLog?
12:45<Chutt>new ui stuff, bugfixes, playlists in mythmusic
12:46<inman>Chutt: that scaling improvement is going to be sweet, thanks
12:46<moegreen>Someone (nziarek) should make a osd theme for iulius
12:46<Chutt>i just want to get back to faster releases
12:46<Chutt>more incremental, than totally changed
12:46<inman>what release comes after .9? 1.0?
12:46<Chutt>0.10
12:46<inman>okay
12:47<Chutt>just going by the number of releases
12:47<Chutt>until i deem it good enough for 1.0 =)
12:48<inman>that's what i'd expect...
12:48<inman>think i should post cvs snapshots?
12:48<Chutt>rather not
12:48<inman>glad i asked, heh.
12:48<Chutt>i can always turn the automatic .tar.gz stuff back on
12:48<Chutt>if people _really_ want that
12:49<inman>i couldn't believe the last post in the roadmap thread
12:49<inman>er, "we're too lazy even to use a snapshot"
12:49<Chutt>yup
12:50<inman>myth-cvs users are spoiled by stable code.
12:50<moegreen>if you're going to use a snapshot you might as well use cvs, most things are only broken for a day or so
12:50<Chutt>i do try
12:50<inman>moegreen: exactly the point i was trying to make in the thread.
12:50<inman>it's psychosomatic.
12:56<inman>mythmusic crashes after the "checking" meter with this:
12:56<inman>0x404ff470 in QWidget::setBackgroundColorDirect(QColor const&) ()
12:56<inman> from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
12:56<inman>(gdb) bt
12:56<inman>#0 0x404ff470 in QWidget::setBackgroundColorDirect(QColor const&) ()
12:56<inman> from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
12:56<inman>#1 0x405ba5b2 in QWidget::setBackgroundFromMode() ()
12:56<inman> from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
12:56<inman>#2 0x405bac64 in QWidget::setPalette(QPalette const&) ()
12:56<inman> from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
12:56<inman>#3 0x402e5b42 in ThemedMenu (this=0x81b2b30,
12:56<inman> cdir=0x81f5138 "/var/local/myth/share/mythtv/themes/blue",
12:56<inman> menufile=0x80a869d "musicmenu.xml", parent=0x0, name=0x0)
12:56<inman> at themedmenu.cpp:26
12:56<inman>probably something in my config?
12:57<Chutt>hmm
12:57<Chutt>could be
12:57<Chutt>i don't see why that should crash
12:57<TheAsp>oh, shit forgot to build
12:59<inman>i think that's the wrong thread
13:00<TheAsp>moegreen: yeah, i know it will ask, just dont know how i deleted it
13:00<Chutt>inman, well, if it's before it's displayed anything, that's the right thread
13:00<Chutt>that's the only thread =)
13:01<inman>there are multiple threads, and it has displayed the progress meter.
13:01<moegreen>TheAsp: In the delete screen I could see how, lirc registering two enters, but I don't see how in the Watch Recordings
13:01<Chutt>what other threads?
13:01* inmanis just finishing a debugging build.
13:01<Chutt>there should be that and the pthread manager thread
13:01<moegreen>I guess I should make the default to 'No, I changed my mind'
13:01<inman>moegreen: i think you should.
13:01<Chutt>unless thor's modified stuff more than i thought =)
13:01<inman>heh
13:02<inman>wow, now it works
13:02<TheAsp>not using lirc (and not saying i didn't do it myself :P)
13:02<inman>weird
13:02<Chutt>might just have been that the themedmenu class size changed
13:02<TheAsp>oh, should enter trigger those? didnt seem to work last night, had to use space
13:02<Chutt>and you didn't recompile mythmusic fully
13:03<inman>yeah
13:04<Chutt>once i get the osd stuff straightened out, i'm adding versioning to the lib/db
13:04<inman>switching from random to normal shuffle modes doesn't let the selector move downwards by one, it jumps (i guess) to the next random track before moving normally.
13:04<inman>i can't believe we still have those QTime::fromString warnings
13:04* inmangrins.
13:05<moegreen>those buttons are just MythPushButtons, so whatever keys it reacts to - I assume Enter or Space would work
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13:06<moegreen>TheAsp: nonetheless i've commited the change to make the default be a no delete action
13:06<moegreen>TheAsp: I deeply regret your loss :)
13:07<TheAsp>hehe, im sure fox will be pissed i miss john doe
13:07<TheAsp>:)
13:07<TheAsp>im not too hurt though
13:07<inman>think of all the commercials you missed... :-(
13:08<Chutt>last night's episode wasn't all that great
13:08<TheAsp>were any of them?
13:08<TheAsp>:)
13:08<Chutt>except for a 'whaddya know, i know ju-jitsu. huh.' line
13:08<TheAsp>i'm waiting for the matrix tie in
13:09<moegreen>the driver for the wintv-pvr-250 prints a *lot* of debugging info :) It filled up my /var partition after about 30 minutes of use :(
13:09<Chutt>heh
13:12<inman>you can turn that down
13:13<Soopaman>anyone have any chapelle's show recordings?
13:13<Soopaman>:)
13:13<inman>i have tickets for 4/13 :-)
13:13<Soopaman>really
13:13<Soopaman>sweet
13:13<inman>not the taping, just chappelle
13:13<Soopaman>want to take me?
13:13<Soopaman>that's my birthday
13:13<inman>saw him last year, too.
13:13<inman>heh
13:13<Soopaman>how is he live/
13:13<moegreen>inman: yeah, i didn't realize it was doing it until myth couldn't schedule recordings
13:13<inman>where do you live?
13:13<inman>man he was so stoned
13:13<Soopaman>canada
13:13<Soopaman>heheheh
13:13<inman>did a 2.5hr show
13:14<Soopaman>sweet
13:14<inman>saw him on letterman the other night. only caught a couple minutes, but he was trashed.
13:14<inman>hilarious
13:15<inman>what could cause a cd-import in mythmusic to import a bunch of 165-185 byte FLAC tracks?
13:15<inman>Soopaman: would you consider seeing a show in boston?
13:18<moegreen>Soopaman: I have all the episodes, but i'm also on a cable modem with a 128 kbit upstream :)
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13:19<ChuttZ>heh, the zaurus lives
13:19<TheAsp>haha
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13:24<moegreen>heh, the zaurus is dead :)
13:24<Chutt>naw, just closed the irc program
13:25<Chutt>that wasn't much fun, cleaning up after the crappy package manager
13:25<TheAsp>the font for the selected program name (or "all programs") should be bigger in the view/delete screens
13:26<TheAsp>can that be done with themes?
13:27<moegreen>TheAsp: it uses the 'medium' font size
13:27<TheAsp>hmm
13:27<moegreen>TheAsp: if it gets too much bigger a lot of the titles will get cut off
13:28<TheAsp>make the others smaller then? :)
13:29<moegreen>the others use the medium font size - 2
13:29<TheAsp>it doesnt stand out very well is all
13:29<moegreen>aside from it being enclosed in a box :)
13:29<TheAsp>yeah, aside from that :P
13:30<TheAsp>i guess its just not how i am used to things being hilighted :)
13:30<TheAsp>maybe not change color when you go into the other list?
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13:30<inman>moegreen: i wish everything focused as well as your popupbox.
13:31<TheAsp>hmm, works better in blue then ilius
13:32<TheAsp>(oh, that seg seems to be fixed)
13:33<moegreen>inman: what do you mean?
13:35<moegreen>Chutt: do you think I should add a setup option to let the user determine which shading method they want (the quick version that looks fine on a TV, or the slow png version that looks good on a monitor)?
13:35<inman>moegreen: the selection indicator is very clean and effective; lacks the complexity of stuff, eg. in the setup dialogs.
13:38<moegreen>inman: well there is a lot more going on in the setup dialogs, having a yes or no dialog for each option might be overkill there :)
13:38<inman>moegreen: i'm only speaking of aesthetics...
13:39<moegreen>inman: i agree, the light outline indicating focus in the setup dialogs is hard to see
13:40<inman>the case insensitivity of the playlist editor, eg. for artist names, seems to've vanished.
14:02<Timon>I just upgraded my qt from 3.0.5 to 3.1.2 and I get this error when trying to compile: "This file was generated using the moc from 3.0.5. blah blah blah" Any ideas on what I got to do to fix it?
14:03<moegreen>Timon: you need to do a make distclean to delete all the moc_ files
14:03<Timon>did that
14:03<Timon>nadda
14:06<moegreen>well if you did that then the moc_ files have been deleted, so they can't really be made with v 3.0.5 unless you have that version lying around somewhere
14:06<Timon>I overwrote my old version of qt with the new one so all should be well. . .
14:07<moegreen>*should* being the keyword there, this is qt we are talking about :)
14:07<Timon>hahaha
14:11<inman>Timon: what is the error message, exactly?
14:15<Timon>moc_playbackbox.cpp:17:2: #error "This file was generated using the moc from 3.0.5. It"
14:15<Timon>moc_playbackbox.cpp:18:2: #error "cannot be used with the include files from this version of Qt."
14:15<Timon>moc_playbackbox.cpp:19:2: #error "(The moc has changed too much.)"
14:15<inman>remove that file.
14:15<Timon>I just thought of something, maybe I need to run ldconfig :-)
14:15<inman>no
14:15<Timon>inman, I've done that
14:16<Timon>make distclean removes the moc files
14:16<inman>how could it be generating a new version with 3.0.5 if you overwrote 3.0.5?
14:16<Timon>I dunno, whats why I'm askin :-)
14:16<inman>check that you've really overwritten 3.0.5. ldconfig sounds like a good idea, regardless.
14:19<Timon>everything says 3.1.2
14:19<Timon>I checked the symlinks, they are good. Check the version of qmake
14:19<inman>not everything. :-)
14:19<Timon>checked the header files
14:19<Timon>inman, funny :-)
14:22<Timon>I can run the qt example progs
14:22<inman>what is the path to moc?
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14:23<inman>moc doesn't link against qt libs, so if you have a stale moc binary, you've found the problem.
14:23<Timon>. /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc
14:23<Timon>thats it
14:23<Timon>[dan@pvr bin]$ /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc -v
14:23<Timon>Qt Meta Object Compiler version 19 (Qt 3.0.5)
14:24<inman>bingo.
14:24<Timon>Thanks man!
14:24<inman>yep.
14:24<Timon>err wait
14:24<Timon>I ran the moc thats on the path, and I get 3.1.2
14:24<inman>yeah, it doesn't use your env's path.
14:24<inman>look at the Makefile.
14:25<Timon>ohh, that would do it :-)
14:25<Timon>I'll fix this :-)
14:25<Timon>Thanks a mil!
14:25<inman>might want to see what else wasn't replaced.
14:25* inmanshivers.
14:25<inman>how did you get into this state, anyway? what distro?
14:27<Timon>mandrake, I set the wrong bin path for the qt bin files
14:27<Timon>I told it to put them in /usr/bin instead of /usr/lib/qt3/bin
14:28<inman>mandrake doesn't have qt-3.1 bins?
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14:28<Timon>not that I could find
14:30<inman>i'd remove the existing binary packages and then install qt by hand.
14:30<inman>why are you upgrading it, anyway?
14:35<inman>why didn't mark use #ifdex OSX or something on this patch?
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14:43<Timon>I'm upgrading it because I'm having problems with it
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15:29<PhracturedBlue>looking through the source, it appears that there is support for deinterlacing while recording, but I don't see any way to enable it (seems to only be enabled for playback). Is this right?
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15:32<Chutt>yup
15:33<PhracturedBlue>any reason not to enable it for recording?
15:33<PhracturedBlue>besides CPU usage?
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15:34<Chutt>that's the major reason, yes
15:35<Chutt>i get enough people bitching that they can't record at 640x480 & high quality on their 486s as is
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15:49<PhracturedBlue>heh.
15:52<Timon>Chutt: Are you going to apply my MythMusic visualization switch patch on song change?
15:53<Chutt>haven't looked at it yet
15:53<Timon>Or do I need to make some changes to it before you'll apply it?
15:53<Timon>Ok, that works :-)
15:54<Timon>I made the patch based on another patch I submitted on thursday. Do you want me to make the visualization change patch without being based on my previous one?
15:54<PhracturedBlue>btw: are there any coding style guidelines for submitting patches? i noticed that mythweb uses tabs for indentation, and mytthtv uses spaces, but I was wondering if patches need to be in a certain form.
15:55<Chutt>follow the style of what file you're modifying
15:55<PhracturedBlue>easy enough I guess :)
15:59<PhracturedBlue>last dumb question: Is there ary documentation for how to use libmythtv? I wantto write a standalone app to prototype my transcoding idea, but I'm not familiar enough with the code yet to know which functions need to be called.
16:00<Chutt>not really
16:00<Chutt>check stuff like mythmusic to see how to use it
16:00<Chutt>err, that'd be libmyth, not the libmythtv
16:00<Chutt>no docs at all for that =)
16:01<PhracturedBlue>'k. I was just trying to dig through mythbackend, but not had much luck yet.
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16:10<PhracturedBlue>Okay, I guess it wasn't the last dumb question: what is the purpose ofthe remote-encoding stuff? from what I've seen the encoder lives as a seperate thread on the same machine as mythbackend, so what is 'remote' about it?
16:10<Chutt>you can have multiple backends
16:11<Chutt>and it's remote from the frontend.
16:12<PhracturedBlue>so the backends can talk to each-other? or is it the frontend's job to determine which backend to use?
16:15<Chutt>there's one backend in control
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16:54<inman>Chutt: is defaultosd (after your recent code) supposed to look "normal"?
16:56<inman>moegreen: still seeing a "0 MB" in top-right corner after deleting a program.
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17:00<jdanner>inman: yeah I haven't applied your patch yet ... i'm dragging my feet today :)
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17:01<inman>moegreen: i'm seeing this /with/ my patch. my patch is only for the no-programs corner case.
17:02<inman>shouldn't be a tough one to fix, though.
17:10<moegreen>inman: update cvs, i've changed the mythcheckbox to make the setup screens show the focus better
17:10<inman>sweet
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17:12<Chutt>inman, yeah, it looks fine here
17:12<inman>Chutt: my fonts are too large and i'm missing a lot of the bottom half of the sd
17:12<inman>osd
17:13<inman>want a screenshot or something?
17:13<Chutt>what recording res, and overscan settings?
17:13<moegreen>inman: could you get a screenshot of the 0 MB?
17:13<inman>overscan is horiz 4%
17:13<inman>moegreen: sure
17:13<moegreen>in both contexts
17:13<Chutt>displacement as well
17:14<Bonkers>anyone have an idea what could be the problem with I myth box I'm trying to steup? it's got jerky video that's slighlty jerky but enough to be annoying, I copied a recording from another computer and it played fine, ti's a 1.8GHz box and the CPU is at like 50% when it's getting jerky video, and I've tried swapping harddrives and I installed gentoo with gcc 3.2 instead of deibna with gcc 2.95.4, anyone have any ideas?
17:15<inman>moegreen: http://zebar.net/~dert/snap
17:15<moegreen>Bonkers: are you displaying on a TV
17:16<moegreen>inman: where are your images?
17:16<inman>moegreen: hmm?
17:17<inman>Chutt: i think reducing the font may have helped; which font size are you using?
17:17<moegreen>the outlines and container images that should be drawn behind the text?
17:17<Chutt>the stuff in the .xml file
17:17<inman>Chutt: i thought it looked worse than it does now.
17:17<inman>moegreen: missing, apparently.
17:17<moegreen>do you have a MC/themes/default directory?
17:18<inman>nope
17:18<Chutt>update -d
17:18<moegreen>you need to do a 'cvs update -d MC'
17:18<inman>yeah doing that now
17:18<inman>when was it added?
17:18<moegreen>about 3 days ago, I think
17:19<Chutt>when the new playback box stuff went in
17:19<inman>oh, no wonder
17:19<moegreen>http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/playback is what it should look like
17:19<Chutt>heh
17:19<inman>man that explain alot
17:20<Chutt>heh, damn phpnuke
17:21<moegreen>hehe
17:22<moegreen>'I got Pizowned by Chromed'
17:22<inman>realtv is great for generating deletion fodder.
17:22<moegreen>inman: Paid Programming is my favorite
17:23<moegreen>it's on a lot more
17:23<inman>oh yeah that's a good one
17:23<inman>perhaps not as much action though
17:23<inman>heh
17:24<Chutt>anyone have a copy of the old text?
17:29<Bonkers>moegreen: I've tried it on a TV and on a monitor, seems the same
17:30<Bonkers>moegreen: but the display isn't the problem, mplayer works fine and if I copy a recording from anotehr computer and add it to the database it plays fine through myth
17:31<Chutt>the phpnuke bug was the 'rate this article' stuff
17:32<inman>hah, another sendmail bug.
17:42<Chutt>someone just emailed me off list saying that the alt-epg doesn't look right at 1280x1024
17:44<vektor>do you compensate for non-square-pixel ?
17:44<Chutt>not in the ui, no
17:44<vektor>in the xvideo scaled stuff you do?
17:44<Chutt>yup
17:45<Chutt>i think so, at least
17:45<vektor>yeah, we do too. doing it for like qt would suck ass
17:45<Chutt>167.1.124.100
17:45<vektor>i'd think anyway
17:45<Chutt>my l33t h4x0r
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18:06<inman>Chutt: epg looks fine for me at 1600x1200. maybe it's a 4:3 issue again?
18:06<Chutt>inman, yup
18:07<Chutt>stuff looks mostly fine at 16:9, too
18:07<inman>hmm.
18:07<Chutt>it's just at resolutions where the height is larger in proportion to the width that stuff gets messed up
18:08<inman>moegreen: it'd be cool if hitting the down arrow at the bottom of a list in playbackbox would move the program-pointer to the next program in the list.
18:09<inman>moegreen: so you could scroll through all programs in the right-hand pane.
18:09<inman>Chutt: i thought you fixed that a few weeks ago.
18:11<Chutt>it's not really fixed
18:11<Chutt>i just made it look not so bad
18:12<Captain_Murdoch>PhracturedBlue: you're wanting to make a standalone program to read a .nuv and transcode it?
18:12<inman>that's what i thought. so there's no explicit arbitrary-ratio handling, right?
18:13<Chutt>not really
18:13<Chutt>it mainly assumes that things are 4:3
18:14<inman>yeah, just checking.
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18:22<Chutt>http://24.161.20.47/php/php.exe/pc/pizhp/poo.php
18:22<Chutt>is what the l33t h4x0r used :p
18:22<Chutt>that exact webpage, etc
18:29<PhracturedBlue>Captain_Murdoch: yes. well actually I want it to be a thread, but I'll start with a standalone program (easier to debug)
18:30<PhracturedBlue>I need to use myth tho, since myth needs to be able to play it back.
18:35<inman>moegreen: updated 0mb snapshot at zebar.net/~dert/snap
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18:37<inman>Chutt: are you sure the osd is honoring the font settings in the xml for recording playback?
18:37<inman>Chutt: looks good for livetv but not for recordings...
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18:41<Chutt>pretty sure
18:41<inman>weird
18:41<Chutt>it looks like it's not centering the time indicator
18:41<Chutt>but other than that..
18:42<inman>any suggestions on where i should look?
18:42<Chutt>can you take a screenshot?
18:42<inman>sure
18:42<inman>zebar.net/~dert/snap/bigosd.jpg
18:43<Chutt>you looked at that, right? :p
18:43<inman>oh, duh
18:43<inman>heh
18:43<inman>told ya it didn't look right :-)
18:43<Bonkers>I like htat one, nice and simple ;)
18:43<inman>hmm
18:44<inman>this is the problem the lister was having.
18:44<Chutt>are you using an nvidia card?
18:45<inman>yep
18:45<Chutt>go into XJ.cpp
18:45<Chutt>comment out line 197
18:46<Chutt>(the break)
18:46<Chutt>then you should be able to get a grab of it
18:46<inman>cool
18:46<Chutt>but, remember to uncomment it when you want to use stuff
18:46<inman>uh huh
18:46<inman>sometimes you're scary.
18:46<Chutt>that's basically making it use the image blitter instead of the hardware stuff
18:46<Chutt>so, you'll get image tearing and stuff
18:46<inman>ah
18:46<Chutt>doesn't vsync
18:48<inman>okay, snap is up
18:48<Chutt>weird
18:48<Chutt>hrm
18:48<Chutt>actually
18:49<Chutt>i bet it's not scaling the fonts at all
18:49<inman>i checked and livetv does scale (i was able to change the sizes)
18:49<inman>you fixed the osd scaling issue vektor was talking about?
18:50<Chutt>in osd.cpp
18:50<Chutt>line 268
18:50<Chutt>before the LoadFont() call
18:50<Chutt>add:
18:50<Chutt>size = (int)(size * hmult);
18:50<Chutt>and see if that fixes it
18:52<inman>looks good
18:52<inman>what was the problem?
18:52<Chutt>wasn't scaling the fonts to the height
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19:18<Justin_>hmm
19:19<Justin_>cd libs && make -f Makefile
19:19<Justin_>/bin/sh: line 1: cd: libs: No such file or directory
19:19<Justin_>somethings broked:)
19:19<inman>got any more context?
19:20<Chutt>nothing's broken
19:20<Chutt>except your checkout
19:20<Justin_>nope, fresh checkout
19:20<inman>Justin_: did you run out of disk?
19:20<Justin_>its bash
19:20<Justin_>make SHELL=zsh works
19:21<inman>my sh is bash and i don't have this problem. which distro?
19:21<Justin_>debian sid
19:21<Chutt>there's absolutely nothing illegal about that line
19:21<Justin_>i know, and if i paste it, it gives the same errror for libavcodec
19:23<Justin_>very strange indeed
19:23<Justin_>/bin/sh is bash, make SHELL=sh fails, make SHELL=bash works
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19:29* Justin_wonders why its using g++ -O6
20:14<inman>my god the backend is going crazy. paid programming is the devil.
20:14<inman>it's out of control!
20:15<inman>call the fire department!
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21:15<SarahEmm>okay, i'm trying to get audio working with mythtv using btaudio, i have my sblive on /dev/dsp, btaudio on /dev/dsp2 (digital audio channel), and the test of playing /dev/dsp2 while xawtv is running works fine (i hear the tv out the sblive), but when watching live tv w/ mythtv i get no audio at all.. where do i start looking? i've checked mythtv setup, and the capture card audio channel is set to /dev/dsp2...
21:19<inman>what are you doing to play audio when in xawtv?
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21:20<SarahEmm>mute everything but PCM on the sblive, start xawtv, then use a cmdline tool to play audio from /dev/dsp2
21:20<inman>yeah, what's the tool invocation look like?
21:21<SarahEmm>sox -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp
21:22<inman>when you going into setup to setup your card, do the settings match what you set them to previously?
21:22<SarahEmm>yep
21:22<inman>you might also check the output settings
21:22<SarahEmm>just checked the DB, that looks okay
21:23<inman>if you have recordings which you recorded without btaudio, you should check that you can still hear them.
21:23<SarahEmm>output settings set to let mythtv control mixer, /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp output
21:23<SarahEmm>which s/b the sblive
21:23<SarahEmm>i'm just setting this up for the first time now inman
21:23<SarahEmm>i've never had it working at all
21:23<inman>okay.
21:23<SarahEmm>(tnx for the help btw :)
21:23<inman>did you load btaudio after bttv?
21:23<SarahEmm>yep
21:23<inman>alsa or oss?
21:24<SarahEmm>and after msp3400
21:24<SarahEmm>oss
21:24<SarahEmm>try alsa?
21:24<inman>you compile the kernel/modules yourself or is it from your distro? and which distro is it?
21:24<SarahEmm>compiled myself
21:24<SarahEmm>slack
21:24<SarahEmm>2.4.19 kernel
21:24<inman>ugh. slack.
21:24<SarahEmm>i know.
21:24<SarahEmm>it's an older box and i haven't bothered to reload it with debian yet
21:24<inman>i had btaudio working under oss, too, so i don't think you need alsa.
21:25<SarahEmm>well the driver itself seems to work, as i can hear audio from it using sox
21:25<inman>yeah. curious
21:25<SarahEmm>i also couldn't get it working w/o using btaudio, so that's why i figured i'd try using btaudio
21:25<SarahEmm>tv wonder (not ve) btw
21:26<inman>hmmm.
21:26<inman>is the rate you set in myth the same rate you load the module with?
21:26<inman>eg. try loading the module with rate=32000 (or whatever)
21:27<SarahEmm>hmm, i didn'tl oad the module with any rate
21:27<SarahEmm>i set myth to 32000, let me unload/reload the module
21:27<inman>presumably you've already exhausted the docs at mythtv.org...
21:27<inman>myth doesn't give you any warnings about sound when you launch it, does it?
21:27<SarahEmm>nope still no audio
21:27<SarahEmm>nope, no warnings
21:28<inman>and your xawtv test was run by the same user that runs myth?
21:28<SarahEmm>yeah, i exhausted all the docs i could find and the mailing list
21:28<SarahEmm>(mailing list archive i mean)
21:28<SarahEmm>inman: yep
21:28<inman>can you past the dmesg output from when you load btaudio?
21:28<inman>s/past/paste
21:29<SarahEmm>hmm, when i run the sox line while mythtv is running i get audio (straight from bttv obviously, so not synced and doesn't pause)
21:29<SarahEmm>one sec
21:29<SarahEmm>here or #flood?
21:29<inman>have you checked the mixer assigned to btaudio as well?
21:29<inman>here is fine.
21:30<inman>SarahEmm: that suggests that myth isn't opening the device.
21:30<inman>are you using devfs?
21:30<SarahEmm>afaik the mixer for btaudio is only for the analog channel, not digital
21:30<SarahEmm>as even when it's all the way down, /dev/dsp2 has listenable audio on it
21:30<SarahEmm>nope, no devfs
21:30<inman>okay
21:31<SarahEmm>mythbackend has /dev/dsp open
21:31<inman>and you're sure the card supports btaudio?
21:31<SarahEmm>as does mythfrontend
21:31<SarahEmm>inman: i'm listening to it via sox
21:31<SarahEmm>so i assume it's supporting it
21:31<inman>oh yeah
21:31<inman>heh
21:31<SarahEmm>and the mailing list says tv wonder does, tv wonder ve doesn't
21:31<SarahEmm>this is a tv wonder non-ve...
21:31<SarahEmm>inman: heh ;) it must support it 'cuz i can listen to it
21:32<SarahEmm>hmmmm./;
21:32<SarahEmm>nothing has /dev/dsp2 open
21:32<SarahEmm>even when mythtv is up.
21:32<inman>it seems to me that myth isn't opening the device for whatever reason
21:32<SarahEmm>waaaait a second.
21:32<SarahEmm>hold on, one sec.
21:32<inman>can you check the db to make sure the settign is right?
21:32<SarahEmm>duuuuuuh.
21:32<SarahEmm>okay, i'm an idiot
21:32<SarahEmm>;)
21:32<inman>eg. `select audiodevice from capturecard`
21:32<inman>?
21:32<SarahEmm>it works fine now.
21:32<inman>sweet.
21:33<SarahEmm>i changed setup but mythbackend was still running, forgot to kill/restart it
21:33<inman>cool.
21:33<SarahEmm>killed/restarted the backend and now it's great
21:33* SarahEmmtries pausing
21:33<inman>i was thinking that i must be missing something big.
21:33<inman>heh
21:33<SarahEmm>heh
21:33<SarahEmm>it's always the most obvious things you never think of
21:33<SarahEmm>thanks for the help :)
21:33<inman>np, ejoy.
21:34<inman>er, enjoy.
21:34<SarahEmm>now, if there was only something on to watch.. lol
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22:29<PeteCool>Will it work ok if I uncomment a channel in my xmltv file and run mythfilldatabase, or do I have to drop the channels tale before doing that?
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22:41<SarahEmm>clear
22:41<SarahEmm>oops
22:42<SarahEmm>is there a way to make mythmusic *not* delete everything in mythmusic_metadata if it can't find the music?
22:42<SarahEmm>if i forget to mount that path before i go into mythmusic, it deletes everything and i have to spend 15m letting it regenerate it all
22:45<Bonkers>I'm sure a little code editting can do wonders for that ;)
22:45<PeteCool>SarahEmm: you could make the mount in your fstab, so it's ready on bootup
22:46<TheAsp>use autofs . . . :P
22:48<SarahEmm>hrm.
22:48<SarahEmm>yeah, there was a reason i didn't do that.. *thinks*
22:50<SarahEmm>hmm, can't remember why.
22:50<SarahEmm>i guess i'll just make it mount at boot
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