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00:00<poptix>well, don't try hitting it with anything
00:01<poptix>they have sensors to detect how many G's the drive has been subjected to =)
00:01<Chutt>yup
00:01<poptix>got a grill?
00:02<poptix>those electronic igniters will kill anything
00:02<Chutt>heh
00:02<poptix>killed the time clock at work once
00:02<poptix>along with the computer it was connected to
00:30<yebyen>blum
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00:53<orangey>hey guys!
00:53<orangey>what exactly is this whole transcode dealie all about?
00:53<orangey>will it allow for the much sought after automagic conversion of nupel to divx, say?
01:04<orangey>ugh. sleep. nightie : )
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01:32<Morph>hmm what determins the epg's font size?
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02:35<hfb>Anyone here have any experience with home built Serial Port IR Receivers?
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04:49<Gulliver>hi all
04:50<Gulliver>I just tried to checkout mythtv cvs-sources, but I get a timeout. Is the server not available? (I followed the instructions form the mythtv-page)
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05:25<Gulliver>someone awake?
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07:01<Gulliver>someone awake?
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08:15<Gulliver>someone awake?
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08:41<Gulliver>someone awake?
08:57<Gulliver>hello?
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09:26<Gulliver>someone awake?
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10:13<Gulliver>someone awake?
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10:39<Chutt>hrmph
10:39<Chutt>lost my spiffy cvs mail script
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10:55<Captain_Murdoch>I've had 2 different people email me the past day giving ideas for better commercial detection using the vbi data.
10:55<Chutt>cool
10:55<Captain_Murdoch>I need to delve into the existing vbi source in Myth to see what I could use/reuse.
10:55<Chutt>i'm going to have to recreate your cvs account and stuff
10:56<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, I heard. I got back in town late last night and went through and read like 2 days worth of irc logs. :)
10:56<Chutt>heh
10:56<Captain_Murdoch>course that was after I tried to do a "cvs update" when I first sat at the computer.
10:57<Chutt>i'm installing debian on an old drive
10:57<Chutt>right now =)
10:59<Captain_Murdoch>was someone having problems with a smp box running Myth?
11:02<Captain_Murdoch>I got a Dell Poweredge 2300 from work with a bad hard drive and only 1 cpu. I ordered a second cpu to put in it and found out the hard drive is still under warranty (still has 3 more anyway). Ultra2/lvd SCSI, doesn't even have IDE onboard. Going to see how well it will be for a desktop/dev machine. :)
11:05<poptix>i've changed my mind about the whole bootable-myth-frontend thing
11:05<poptix>i'm going to make a netboot setup
11:05<poptix>then it can get the backend info
11:10<Captain_Murdoch>poptix, should be easy to get a bootable image that will do that. I've created boot floppys before to do things like that. Boot off the image, mount /usr off of nfs, have video storage dir mounted over nfs also so you can read directly from nfs server rather than going through backend. would work nice, no hard drive in the frontend, just a floppy or solid-state boot drive.
11:10<Chutt>heh
11:10<Chutt>and now snowman.net's down
11:10<Chutt>funny
11:11<Captain_Murdoch>it's all a MPAA conspiracy
11:12* Captain_Murdochgoes to answer a loud knock at his door and mysteriously never returns
11:13<Captain_Murdoch>I also had one other guy email me a couple days ago asking about converting the commercial skip stuff to work in mplayer or a generic implemtation somehow for divx files.
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11:33<Chutt>heh
11:33<Chutt>it's always fun guessing what nic is in a machine
11:36<Captain_Murdoch>just boot off tomsrtbt or some other distro's net install floppy. :)
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12:00<Chutt>hell, the website's down, too
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12:02<Captain_Murdoch>see, conspiracy....
12:02<Chutt>naw
12:02<Captain_Murdoch>:)
12:03<Chutt>dns is at snowman.net
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12:07<Chutt>heh
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12:12<Gulliver>hi all
12:12<Gulliver>someone here who gets his program-info over nxtvepg?
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12:57<poptix>gah
12:58<poptix>segfaults amoung us
13:02<moegreen>he
13:02<moegreen>h
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13:16<poptix>beware the segfaults!
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13:19<bigguy>arg
13:19<bigguy>wtf
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13:20<bigguy>oh well afk
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13:27<poptix>yes
13:27<poptix>everyone pour unnecessary chemicals on your lawn!
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14:37<PeteCool>Chutt: think you'll have cvs.mythtv.org up soon?
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16:00<poptix>ah hah
16:00<poptix>Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
16:00<poptix>[Switching to Thread 884791 (LWP 8281)]
16:00<poptix>0x406a57a2 in QString::operator=(QString const&) () from /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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17:08<poptix>the commercial skipping sounds rather scary
17:08<poptix>blip blip blip
17:08<poptix>ch ch chirp
17:09<poptix>ch ch
17:09<poptix>whop whop
17:09<poptix>works pretty well though
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17:59<cbetan>Has anyone experienced connectivity problems with mythtv.org? I can't reach the webpage
18:05<poptix>it's down.
18:05<poptix>hard drive died
18:06<poptix>move along now
18:07<cbetan>Ok. Thanks
18:10<Chutt>actually, the website's up, you just can't get to it
18:10<Chutt>the dns servers for it are down
18:11<poptix>ah.
18:11<poptix>need backup DNS?
18:11<Chutt>maybe later
18:11<poptix>mmkay.
18:11<Chutt>speakeasy's have problems, it looks like
18:11<Chutt>in the DC area
18:11<poptix>besides being on the same lan ..
18:12<Chutt>yup
18:12<poptix>i can do slave/tertiary dns if you need to, just let me know
18:12<Chutt>i wonder if i should change the cvsroot entirely
18:13<Chutt>since versions are going to be different
18:13<Chutt>i wonder how that works
18:19<poptix>"Bills larger than $20 will not be accepted for online cash transactions."
18:19<poptix>wtf is this
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19:16<Tack>Has anyone here used mencoder on mythtv files?
19:17<Tack>I'm trying the patch. Even with -oac copy -ovc copy, it will do about 40 seconds of the video and then fail with "Too many audio packets in the buffer: 1024 in 8388608 bytes)." Any ideas?
19:18<poptix>mplayer sucks, use something else
19:18<orangey>poptix; you gotta suggest an alternative if you're gonna be like that
19:18<Tack>Like?
19:18<poptix>xine
19:18<poptix>windows media player
19:18<poptix>=)
19:18<Tack>I see. And xine will let me convert mythtv nuv files to avi?
19:19<orangey>windows media player?
19:19<orangey>how did you get windows media player to play mythtv files?
19:19<orangey>Tack: hehehe : )
19:20<poptix>Tack: use edit.com in binary mode to convert from nuv to avi
19:20<Tack>poptix: Oh, it's so simple. Thanks, you've been a big help.
19:20<orangey>hahahahaha
19:21<orangey>Tack: I understand your frustration.
19:21<orangey>just look up the buffer audio dealie.
19:21<orangey>and see if there's any way to increase the buffers..
19:21<orangey>maybe even at the driver level?
19:21<poptix>looking things up is much too hard
19:21<poptix>just keep asking people here
19:21<orangey>poptix: With expertise like yours, I'm not sure how he couldn't have figured it out already
19:22<poptix>orangey: thanks
19:22<Chutt>there
19:22<Chutt>MC cvs is current
19:22<Chutt>now on to the modules
19:22<orangey>Chutt: woohoo!
19:22<Tack>orangey: It's not a driver issue because it's just conversion. I think instead it's a bug in the patch that was written to make mplayer work with mythtv's nuv files.
19:22<poptix>Chutt: yes, but does cvs.mythtv.org resolve =p
19:22<Chutt>heh, nope
19:22<poptix>=P
19:23<Tack>And besides, I've looked things up already. :)
19:23<poptix>commercial skipping is chirping at me
19:23<orangey>Chutt: I have experienced a significantly larger amount of seg faults as of late.. has anybody else reported this? or should I start generating bug reports?
19:23<orangey>Tack: People are doing it, though.. you should perhaps try to match the mplayer version
19:23<poptix>orangey: no, chutt is only interested in old bug reports
19:23<poptix>like, from 6 months ago
19:23<poptix>new bugs are 'features'
19:24<Chutt>send in backtraces
19:24<orangey>dear god, man..
19:24<poptix>'Error, you've been watching too much TV' *SEGFAULT*
19:24<orangey>Chutt: OK.
19:24<Chutt>otherwise, don't bother
19:24<Chutt>=)
19:24<Tack>orangey: Yeah, although I get the impression everyone else is using mp3, whereas I'm using raw pcm. :) (The patch is for 0.90rc5 which is what I'm using.)
19:24<orangey>Chutt: hehehe. understood.. I was just wondering if others had already had this trouble.
19:25* poptixsighs
19:25<orangey>Tack: Have you tried matching known-good settings?
19:25<orangey>Tack: I'm actually interested in doing this, so maybe I'll try it shortly and let you know my experiences..
19:26<Tack>orangey: I haven't, since I want to convert a specific nuv and that's what I'm working on. :)
19:26<Tack>I could try transcode.
19:26<orangey>oh! I was wondering what exactly transcode was..
19:26<Chutt>transcode doesn't grok the file format
19:26<orangey>grok?
19:26<Chutt>it could be made to easily, though
19:26<Tack>Oh well.
19:27<orangey>Chutt: Is there a frontend for transcode?
19:27<orangey>or any documentation on it?
19:27<Chutt>i wouldn't know
19:27<orangey>Chutt: So, what's its main purpose?
19:27<orangey>i searched in the dev archives, but didn't find anything related (that I could tell, anyway)
19:27<poptix>orangey: 'dict' is your friend
19:27<poptix> 2. Used of programs, may connote merely sufficient
19:28<poptix> understanding. "Almost all C compilers grok the "void" type
19:28<poptix> these days."
19:28<poptix>(grok)
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19:31<orangey>so, what does transcode do? i.e., main function?
19:32<poptix>it transcodes
19:32<orangey>oh gem of wisdom!
19:32<orangey>and also, what's the cvs IP?
19:32<poptix>"transcode is a text console video-stream processing tool. It supports elementary video and audio frame transformations. Some example modules are included to enable import of MPEG-1/2, Digital Video, and other formats. It also includes export modules for writing to AVI files with DivX, OpenDivX, XviD, Digital Video or other codecs. Direct DVD transcoding is also supported. A set of tools is available to extract and decode the sources into raw video/audio stream
19:33<poptix>orangey: have you ever heard of a web browser, google, or a dictionary?
19:33<Chutt>mythgame and mythgallery done
19:33<Chutt>rkulagow, hi
19:33<orangey>woah! mythtranscode does all that?
19:33<Chutt>um, no
19:33<Chutt>you asked about transcode
19:34<cbetan>When running "mysql < mc.sql" I get the following error: ERROR 1046 at line 1: No Database Selected
19:34<orangey>OK, well, what does mythtranscode do at present?
19:34<cbetan>Any hints?
19:34<Chutt>cbetan, what's the first line of your mc.sql?
19:35<rkulagow_>hey chutt
19:35<Chutt>i'm going to need to recreate your cvs account
19:36<poptix>orangey: MC/programs/mythtranscode/main.cpp
19:37<Chutt>cbetan, don't msg me.
19:37<Chutt>where did you get that mc.sql from?
19:38<orangey>cbetan: When you msg, the rest of us can't benefit from the advice, or contribute some of our own
19:38<cbetan>From the source package 0.8 (from Debian unstable)
19:38<Chutt>if you're using the debs, you don't run mysql < mc.sql
19:38<orangey>cbetan: forget the /msg : )
19:39<cbetan>No, I want to try without using the debs because I have a problem when installing mythtv-database package, so I wanted to find out what was going on by manually interacting with mysql
19:39<Chutt>then un-apply the patches to that file to get the original one
19:40<cbetan>Ok, orangey, I'll forget about /msg. Question: why when you or Chutt are replying to my questions, your names are highlighted? I'm using X-Chat
19:40<orangey>cbetan: Because we say your nick at the leading edge of our response, so xchat knows that we're talking to you
19:41<cbetan>Ok, got it. I thought you were msg'ing me ;)
19:42<orangey>cbetan: nope.
19:44<cbetan>Ok! I see that the diff file includes the mc.sql, so the debian package modifies it. Now, how do I unpatch it?
19:45<orangey>cbetan: why not download the .tar.gz and start over?
19:47<cbetan>Because the website is down ;)
19:47<orangey>why is it "down", as an aside?
19:49<orangey>oh, just read the email
19:49<orangey>rough.
19:50<cbetan>orangey: well, I can't reach it. My machine fails to resolve the name. It doesn't necessarily mean it's down. Got the IP?
19:50<orangey>cbetan: no. it's down.
19:50<orangey>the whole server crashed
19:50<orangey>err. HD
19:51<cbetan>Well, poptix wrote, earlier on, that the disk had crashed
19:51<orangey>wow. I really want a quick chop pro chef's edition (double capacity!) with easy pasta maker..
19:51<cbetan>So, were can I get the original .tar.gz?
19:52<orangey>cbetan: Not sure, other than the site.. but I gather now that this is what chutt is talkign about.. he's likely restoring everything.
19:54<cbetan>Oops! Debian package includes original .tar.gz - Certainly the mc.sql is different - It works!
19:54<cbetan>So, why when I try to install the debian package mythtv-database it keeps complaining that it can't connect to the database? When I do it manually it works
19:55<orangey>cbetan: perhaps your mysql permissions are messed up.
19:55<orangey>man. I can't believe kissinger is still freaking alive.
19:56<orangey>and still not facing justice. freakin' eh
19:57<orangey>"one of the greatest moments of my life was when the vietnamese in effect accepted our terms for ending the vietnam war"
19:57<orangey>what planet is this guy from!?
19:59<cbetan>orangey: [off-topic] I just finished reading "Stupid White Men", by M. Moore. I guess there are a lot of guys like that unpunished out there.
19:59<orangey>hehehe. have you read the trials of henry kissinger?
19:59<orangey>by hitchens?
20:00<orangey>It's not nearly as easy a read as stupid white men, but it's fascinating..
20:02<cbetan>orangey: No, I really didn't know about it. Gotta check it on Amazon
20:03<orangey>if you're more of a movie sort of guy, you can watch the documentary by the same name
20:03<cbetan>I'm from Venezuela, and last year there was a coup orchestrated by the US, so I'm currently very concerned about international politics
20:03<orangey>cbetan: I've been following venezuela as closely as possible (it's hard to cut through our media).
20:04<orangey>do you read Z? (www.zmag.org)
20:04<poptix>cbetan: it's your fault i was paying $1.80 a gallon for gasoline
20:04<poptix>bastard.
20:04<poptix>=)
20:04<cbetan>orangey: Yep, I read Z!
20:04<orangey>$1.80 / gallon = ~ $0.60 / Litre
20:04<cbetan>poptix: ;^D
20:05<cbetan>Quite cheap, I would say. Don't complain, here in Brussels you'd pay 1$ per litter, namely $4 per gallon. I think you're in heaven! ;)
20:06<cbetan>(I'm Venezuelan, however I'm living in Belgium)
20:06<orangey>parlez-vous francais?
20:06<poptix>cbetan: closer to $.47
20:07<poptix>as for brussels, that's your own problem =P
20:07<orangey>poptix: maybe if gas cost a little more, then people wouldn't be so free drive huge-ass SUVs
20:08<orangey>actually, I don't mind.
20:08<orangey>I can't wait for the gas to run out.
20:08<orangey>because we obviously don't have the discipline to use it wisely
20:08<cbetan>orangey: Oui, Je parle francais, mais je ne peut pas le ecrire
20:09<orangey>cbetan: that's OK. I don'to parle or ecrire
20:09<orangey>hables espanol?
20:09<orangey>usted? : )
20:09<cbetan>orangey: Claro que si, hombre! :)
20:10<orangey>estoy loco comme el gringos
20:11<cbetan>orangey: what do you mean?
20:11<orangey>I'm CRAZY like an american : )
20:11<orangey>I don't actually know any spanish, though : )
20:12<cbetan>"estoy loco como un gringo"
20:12<cbetan>Why do you say so?
20:14* poptixpoints at #chat
20:14<orangey>cbetan: I was just trying to assemble all the spanish that I knew
20:14<cbetan>orangey: nice pictures. In fact, before coming to Europe I new nothing about the Israely genocide against Palestine. Now I know a lot more and I'm very concerned and interested about the subject. Here we have good information about it, however in America we all have a blindfold on our eyes. As long as McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hot, et al, come to town we are all happy. What a shame...
20:15<cbetan>poptix: sure poptix. Sorry for the off topic.
20:15<orangey>cbetan: hehe. I know what you mean. When I grow up, I want to live in Europe
20:15<cbetan>Now, coming back to my issues with mythtv - debian packages are installed without complaints! Great
20:15<orangey>cbetan: good stuff!
20:16<orangey>cbetan: Belgium is quite aware.. They're currently trying sharon, if I'm not mistaken.
20:16<cbetan>However when running mythtv-setup as mythtv user I get the following error: Unable to open database:
20:16<cbetan>Driver error was:
20:16<cbetan>QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
20:16<cbetan>Database error was:
20:16<cbetan>Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)
20:16<cbetan>Any hints?
20:16<orangey>cbetan: two things:
20:16<orangey>One, check your permissions.
20:16<orangey>actually, just that.. the other (export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3) isn't applicable here..
20:16<cbetan>Permissions on the mysql database? How?
20:17<orangey>phpMyAdmin is a good way to play with your MySQL stuff..
20:20<poptix>not really.
20:20<poptix> /usr/bin/mysql is a good way to play with your MySQL stuff.
20:23<cbetan>In which table should I set the permissions?
20:23<orangey>mythconverg or something
20:28<cbetan>Same error: permission denied
20:28<orangey>oh, and change the mysql.txt to 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost..
20:28<orangey>that fixed it for me.
20:28<cbetan>I'm using webmin's mysql admin interface and granted permissions to the user
20:29<orangey>the mysql.txt is in /usr/local/share/mythtv
20:29<cbetan>Changed from localhost to 127.0.0.1 just now but still it doesn't work
20:29<orangey>anything in /var/log about it?
20:32<cbetan>No, no trace on /var/log - extrange...
20:33<orangey>hmm. what permissions do you have for your mythtv user?
20:33<orangey>oh, did you restart mysql after setting the permissions?
20:33<cbetan>Yes
20:34<poptix>what?
20:34<poptix>why would you restart mysql?
20:34<orangey>who knows?
20:34<orangey>it might help
20:34<poptix>uh, no?
20:35<cbetan>Yes, I restarted.
20:35<poptix>flush privileges;
20:35<cbetan>Ok, working now
20:35<orangey>cbetan: What fixed it?
20:35<cbetan>I reseted the password of mythtv user to what it was in mysql.txt
20:35<orangey>cbetan: oh yeah.. the debian thing does the random password..
20:36<cbetan>Yep
20:37<cbetan>It's working! Great, finally I have the mythical mythtv on my screen...see you in a couple of minute ;)
20:37<orangey>hehehe.
20:37<orangey>later
20:38<cbetan>(of course, I have lots of other problems, but we'll come to them later)
20:39<cbetan>(of course, I have lots of other problems, but we'll come to them later)
20:54<cbetan>Could you give me a postalcode to test, please (UK)
21:01<justin_>whats mythtv.org's ip address?
21:06<justin_>mdz: heh, my friend finally got mythtv installed from the debs, but all it did was have the backend segfault when he started mythtv
21:08<cbetan>Ok, guys, mythtv is running. Now I have to fix my TV card problems. But for that I'll be back tomorrow. Thanks a lot for your help!
21:08* cbetanis away: I'm busy
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22:21<Chutt>rkulagow, cvs changes: the directory is now /var/lib/mythcvs and MC has become mythtv
22:21<Chutt>and you should have access now
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22:24<crickert>has anyone used Thac's myth rpm's
22:24<Chutt>are those the mandrake ones?
22:25<orangey>Chutt: is mythtv.org resolving now?
22:25<Chutt>orangey, nope
22:26<crickert>yes, those are the mandrake rpms
22:26<Chutt>guy that runs the dns servers isn't going to be back for a few more hours
22:26<Chutt>crickert, i've not had any reports of anyone using them
22:26<orangey>Chutt: Another silly question: I wrote a tiny patch that puts stars (equivalent to ratings in the database) by the names of movies.. it is a super-shitty hack of a patch.. How would you recommend I field it for perusal / suggestion? diff / email the list?
22:26<Chutt>yeah
22:27<orangey>Chutt: is there any instruction on the prefered format? I couldn't find any in the documentation upon a quick search
22:27<Chutt>diff -u
22:27<Chutt>once you have a cvs checkout, it's cvs -z3 diff -u > diff.diff
22:28<orangey>so, I check out the CVS, then I do that command?
22:28<orangey>and I end up with a file, diff.diff, that can be submitted?
22:28<crickert>i got a question that isn't quite address on the maillist
22:28<Chutt>check out cvs, make your mods, then do that from the working directory
22:29<orangey>Chutt: OK.. cool. Could we put something like this in the mythdocs? Maybe a small section for that, and another small section for the proper way to submit bug reports?
22:29<crickert>here's the scenerio..sound works..check...live tv...check - error in Konsole...check
22:29<crickert>Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
22:29<crickert>audio volume set to '32768'
22:29<crickert>strange error flushing buffer ..
22:29<crickert>anyone familiar with that one
22:29<Chutt>it's in the faq, actually
22:30<Chutt>but you can't get to that since the webpage isn't reachable =)
22:30<Chutt>just ignore it
22:30<crickert>is the site down?
22:30<orangey>Chutt: the bug reports stuff / cvs? or this audio problem?
22:30<Chutt>orangey, that was to crickert
22:30<Chutt>write up a section and send it to rkulagow
22:30<crickert>in the frontend Konsole I get this : Delaying to next trigger: 23205924 for several lines
22:30<orangey>Chutt: Will do..
22:31<Chutt>crickert, what's your cpu usage like?
22:31<orangey>crickert: (you can use "top" to find out)
22:31<Chutt>generally only get that when you're running low on cpu
22:31<crickert>when myth is running or without?
22:31<Chutt>when it's running, of course
22:32<crickert>let me check
22:32<orangey>Chutt: last question.. is there an option nowadays to enable debugging on mythbackend?
22:33<orangey>or do we still have to compile it in?
22:33<crickert>which number am i looking for when i do the : top command
22:33<Chutt>you have to compile it in
22:33<crickert>backend is at 50%
22:33<orangey>any compelling reason for it to not be compiled in always?
22:33<Chutt>because it kills performance?
22:34<orangey>Chutt: You are tough but fair
22:36<crickert>what %cpu should the backend be taking
22:37<Chutt>depends on what your recording settings are, of course
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22:50<crickert>chutt: my CPU usage was out of the sky...60%
22:50<crickert>my system took a puke and i had to reboot
22:50<crickert>i suppose an AMD athlon 900 isn't fast enought huh?
22:51<Chutt>lower the capture resolution
22:51<Chutt>don't compress the audio
22:51<Chutt>etc
22:52<crickert>how do i tell it not to compress audio
22:52<Chutt>you go into the recording setup screen and tell it not to compress audio
22:52<crickert>well, is there a way to disable the recording all together
22:53<crickert>or is that an integral part of the system?
22:53<Chutt>why would you want to do that?
22:53<crickert>heck i don't think my machine is up to the challenge
22:53<Chutt>it's fine for it
22:53<Chutt>the default settings are just too high for you
22:53<crickert>ok
22:55<crickert>is it under Audio settings?
22:57<Chutt>tried reading the docs?
22:57<crickert>got em in a binder three hole punched
22:58<crickert>section 10.5?
22:58<Chutt>yup
22:58<Chutt>it is sparse, but the recording setup should be easy to understand
22:58<crickert>i have it at RTJPeg already
22:58<Chutt>lower the res
22:59<crickert>from 480 down to ?
22:59<crickert>300 something?
22:59<Chutt>try 352x240
22:59<crickert>ty
22:59<Chutt>won't look as nice, but it's good to start with something easy and then work up
23:01<crickert>also, is it normal to have two profiles for recording ...one Defaul and one LiveTV?
23:01<Chutt>yup
23:01<Chutt>default's for scheduled recordings
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23:35<Timon>hey inman
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23:38<devnu11>anyone alive here?
23:38* devnu11pokes moegreen
23:38<Timon>barely
23:39<devnu11>dunno if this is new news or not, but i havent been able to get to the mythtv website for a week or so now (fails dns lookups)
23:40<devnu11>and i had a mythweather q, which i guess i am supposed to direct at moegreen there
23:41<moegreen>devnu11: what's your question?
23:41<Chutt>devnu11, the dns servers have been down for 12 hours
23:41<Chutt>not a week.
23:41<Timon>Chutt: You need someone to host dns for you?
23:41<Chutt>no
23:41<Chutt>i don't
23:42<Timon>k
23:42<devnu11>followed instructions in readme, and in the setup there are no cities listed, and says "Missing ACCID Data File!" at the bottom of hte screen
23:42<devnu11>oh, sorry, i coulda sworn i tried loading it the past several days and got nothing...
23:43<moegreen>devnu11: is there a file /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythweather/accid.dat?
23:44<devnu11>perhaps the mythweather distro was incomplete however, since with the website down and no mirrors, all i could find was a noarch rpm that i ran rpm2cpio on
23:44<devnu11>no moegreen
23:44<devnu11>that dir does exist, and there is other stuff in it, but not that file
23:45<moegreen>ok...hold on a sec
23:46* devnu11works on mythmusic for hte time being
23:46<moegreen>http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/weather/accid.dat
23:48<Chutt>moegreen, jdanner was your username, right?
23:48<moegreen>Chutt: yeah
23:49<devnu11>btw, anyone here using mythtv with a voodoo3 3500tv?
23:49<Timon>devnull - check the mailing list archives
23:49<Chutt>that won't work as a tuner card
23:49<devnu11>moegreen, that did the trick, thanks
23:50<devnu11>Chutt, oh, damn, but i do have a couple other tuner cards so its not a biggie, tv-out is what i was really after
23:50<devnu11>heh
23:50<Chutt>i'm not sure on the tv out
23:51<devnu11>ive been trying to get the v3tv package to work, its pretty complicated, but i do think i can get it going
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23:52<Chutt>moegreen, i don't think i had the latest cvs of mythweather
23:52<Chutt>when i restored everything
23:52<moegreen>Chutt: you mean the weathertypes or even later (pre-map)
23:52<Chutt>weathertypes
23:53<moegreen>ok, I'll commit it when I can connect to it
23:53<Chutt>right
23:53<Chutt>and
23:53<Chutt>i may not have the latest ui.xml for liquid and blue
23:53<Chutt>so, mind checking? =)
23:53<moegreen>np
23:53<Chutt>i've changed the cvsroot slightly
23:53<Chutt>since everyone needs to do a clean checkout again
23:54<Chutt>going to be in /var/lib/mythcvs now
23:54<moegreen>heh, that should be fun for your DSL line in the coming days
23:54<Chutt>and MC has become mythtv
23:54<Chutt>everything else should be the same
23:54<Chutt>and you can access through that hostname you just connected to
23:54<Chutt>until dns comes back, at least =)
23:55<Chutt>so it should be pretty easy to see what's missing from your last couple checkins, if anything
23:56<Chutt>i did lose all change history on mythweather since mid march, though
23:56<Chutt>so, sorry 'bout that :(
23:56<devnu11>have a server crash?
23:56<moegreen>heh, not a problem - I've got it all here
23:56<Chutt>the cvs server's drive went away
23:57<devnu11>ahh, that sucks
23:57<Chutt>and i've been being bad about backups
23:57<Chutt>didn't lose anything important, though, so it's all good
23:57<devnu11>umm, i think i backed up all my websites to cd about, ohh, a year ago?
23:57<devnu11>hehe
23:58* devnu11emerges the 3 billion prereqs for mythmusic
23:59<Chutt>heh
23:59<Chutt>it's not that bad
23:59<devnu11>hehe
23:59<Chutt>lame, vorbis, mad
23:59<Chutt>sdl if you want some nice lookin vis stuff
23:59<FryGuy>is there an ETA on the website in the topic to be unborkified? :p
23:59<Timon>Speaking of backups. . . I need to do the same
23:59<Chutt>libcdaudio and libcdparanoia
23:59<moegreen>there it is
23:59<Chutt>fryguy, dunno