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05:19<lofgren>hello
05:19<lofgren>does anyone here use lirc with the tekram irmate dongle?
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10:07<Chutt>blah
10:12<bline>sup Chutt
10:13<Chutt>hey
10:13<Chutt>going to modify mythtv to use your v4l2 settings stuff in the ivtv driver? =)
10:13<bline>heh, maybe
10:13<bline>I want to finish the audio stuff this weekend
10:17<bline>working on: http://www.beckfam.org/ivtv-screens/
10:18<bline>should be done in a day or so, but I think some of those options are not support in ivtv so we will see.
10:19<Chutt>ah, cool
10:19* blineis a glade whore
10:21<Chutt>i've never been a fan of such things
10:21<bline>I'm unopinionated as of yet, this is the first time I've done anything with glade.
10:22<bline>But I am a gtk fan..
10:25<Chutt>heh
10:25<Chutt>used to like gtk
10:25<bline>then you got bit by the QT bug?
10:26<Chutt>yeah
10:26<Chutt>good documentation, don't really have to look at the source to figure out what kind of crack the author was on when writing the api, etc
10:26<bline>If I knew c++ I might like Qt
10:27<hachi>bline: you could write the perl bindings for it
10:27<bline>I could jump off of a cliff also ;)
10:28<hachi>whatever you want
10:28<bline>Someone that doesn't know C++, doesn't know Qt sure shouldn't be writting bindings for it unless they are really into pain.
10:31<hachi>bah, I use reasons like that as an excuse to learn
10:31<hachi>:]
10:32<Chutt>so anyone with an nvidia card and a pvr-250 should update current cvs and make sure that jitter reduction's turned on
10:32<Chutt>playback should be _smooth_ =)
10:32<Chutt>doesn't work quite as well for software encoding, though
10:32<bline>will do!
10:32<Chutt>test with a news crawler or something
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11:32<thor_>Chutt, you sure you want a "no-tree" view option even with accelerators on?
11:38<mdz>Chutt: why only with the pvr-250?
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12:33<Chutt>mdz, less system usage, and more accurate timing in the video stream
12:33<Chutt>thor, it'd be nice to have just a plain playlist view is all
12:34<Chutt>mdz, new stuff isn't quite complete yet =)
12:34<Chutt>but it should be better than before, i think
12:34<mdz>the new EPG is very much slower on my system
12:34<mdz>I assume it's the alpha stuff?
12:34<Chutt>yeah
12:34<Chutt>you can turn that off
12:34<Chutt>or
12:34<Chutt>if you're using the latest nvidia drivers, you can turn on render accel
12:34<Chutt>and the whole ui will speed up a lot
12:35<mdz>I use the xfree86 driver
12:36<Chutt>the non-alpha epg modes for the category colors are pretty fast, though
12:36<Chutt>and while there's a difference on a monitor, there isn't on a tv
12:41<mdz>I still need to get my overscan settings right
12:41<mdz>I notice a lot more with the new UI stuff that the left edge is off the screen
12:42<mdz>and there's a gap on the right
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12:54<moegreen>http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/video4.png
12:57<Chutt>mdz, i'm planning on adding an x/y offset setting for the normal uis
13:00<mdz>Chutt: I really just want the X screen to map to the physical screen
13:00<mdz>the settings seem way overcomplicated
13:01<Chutt>moegreen, untzuntz.com doesn't resolve
13:02<mdz>it does here
13:02<Chutt>odd
13:02<mdz>untzuntz.com has address 216.68.21.122
13:02<mdz>www.untzuntz.com has address 216.68.21.122
13:02<Chutt>i'm not having problems with other places
13:03<Chutt>heh
13:04<Chutt>moegreen, lookin good =)
13:04<moegreen>thanks :)
13:04<Chutt>it may make sense to just dump the data into external xml files or whatnot instead of the database
13:04<Chutt>if you haven't gotten to that yet
13:06<Chutt>little more freeform, but harder to sort and stuff of course
13:06<moegreen>Chutt: It's in the database now, but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to write something to manage an xml file instead
13:06<Chutt>oh, no, keep it in the db then
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13:07<moegreen>it's in a videometadata table, if that sounds good
13:08<Chutt>yeah, that's fine
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14:16<thor_>moegreen, you got movie poster pulling sorted out?
14:16<thor_>looks like that from the sshot
14:19<mdz_>wasn't someone talking about a hang with the preview window?
14:19<mdz_>happened to me here a couple of times now
14:28<moegreen>thor_: yep
14:29<thor_>have to look at your code for album cover art
14:29<thor_>everything else here is almost done
14:29<Chutt>current cvs is slightly broken with the preview window
14:31<moegreen>thor_: I just need to steal mythmusic's setting section :)
14:32<thor_>not sure how you're doing file navigation in mvideo, but you might want to have a look at my UIManagedTreeList
14:38<thor_>bingo!
14:40<lofgren>anyone using irmate with lirc?
14:40<thor_>yup
14:41<lofgren>really?
14:41<thor_>yup
14:41<lofgren>i cant get mine to work :/
14:41<lofgren>it doesnt respond or anything
14:41<thor_>set it up so long ago I don't even remember what I did. Want a config file?
14:41<lofgren>thor_: what exactly have you done ?
14:41<lofgren>yes please
14:42<thor_>locate irman
14:42<thor_>...
14:42<thor_>ah
14:43<thor_>you have a /usr/local/etc/irman.conf ?
14:43<lofgren>irman?
14:43<lofgren>irman != irmate
14:43<thor_>hang on
14:43<thor_>never mind
14:44<lofgren>:/
14:48* bigguyis [back -={ Rejoice and sing for the return of the King }=- ]
15:43<Chutt>captain_murdoch, hey
15:44<Captain_Murdoch_>hey
15:44<Captain_Murdoch_>what did I break this time?
15:44<Captain_Murdoch_>:)
15:44<Chutt>do you have a remote frontend testable?
15:44<Captain_Murdoch_>not here (I'm at work). I do 99% of my testing at home with a remote frontend though.
15:44<Chutt>regarding the 'mythtv freezes when changing channels'
15:45<Chutt>i think the fix would be to change line 551 of osdtypes.cpp to be:
15:45<Chutt>QImage *cached = gContext->CacheRemotePixmap(url, false);
15:45<Captain_Murdoch_>I was just looking over that guy's backtrace on -users. I think someone else submitted one the other day that looked similar.
15:45<Chutt>ie, adding the false
15:45<Chutt>i don't have a remote frontend setup to test at the moment, though
15:49<Captain_Murdoch_>don't know much about that code, never touched it. how can I test it? I can fire up a copy using Xvnc.
15:49<Chutt>just change channels a bunch, really
15:49<Chutt>on a remote box that doesn't have the channel icons available
15:50<Chutt>actually, i can just test it fairly easily
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15:52<Captain_Murdoch_>I need to figure out a way to get a frontend running on my laptop to be able to connect to my backend and mysql db at home tunneling through ssh.
15:53<Captain_Murdoch_>would be kinda slow for video but nice for testing/scheduling/etc. sometimes.
16:00<moegreen>Chutt: Do you know who originally wrote MythVideo? (not that there is much leftover from that now :)
16:00<Chutt>mark someone
16:01<rkulagow_>i think it was mark musone.
16:01<rkulagow_>(shatterit.com)?
16:01<rkulagow_>something like that.
16:35<Chutt>moegreen, committing the video stuff? =)
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16:47<moegreen>Chutt: I'm about to, I'm doing some screenshots and updating my page
16:47<moegreen>Chutt: It's not *completely finished*, but it works :), just need to finish up some random stuff
16:48<Chutt>cool
16:49<Chutt>saw the empty commit message is all =)
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17:07<rkulagow_>chutt: i've seen like two empty commit messages come across today... basically just an envelope and that's it.
17:07<Chutt>right
17:08<Chutt>those are directory additions
17:08<rkulagow_>ah
17:08<mdz_>a long-standing bug in the script :-)
17:08<thor_>I think Chutt is building caches of pre-scaled graphics ??
17:08<mdz_>Chutt: what's the bug with the preview window? something i could fix?
17:09<Chutt>eventually
17:09<Chutt>mdz, i don't know yet, haven't looked at it
17:09<Chutt>thor, the 'eventually' was to you, sorry =)
17:09<Chutt>but, yeah
17:09<Chutt>i'm going to do that next
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17:17<thor_>moegreen, YEEEAAHHHH!!!!
17:19<moegreen>heh
17:24<bline>nice moegreen
17:24<Chutt>thor, mind if i apply leandro's mythmusic i18n patch?
17:24<Chutt>you'll have a tiny bit of work merging it, but i'd like to get that in
17:25<thor_>Chutt, yup, great
17:32<thor_>hrm
17:34<thor_>... setting a shuffle mode is a little complicated when you have a tree with 5 gigs of music in it ...
17:34<Chutt>heh
17:35<Chutt>the non-intelligent stuff should be relatively fast
17:36<thor_>yeah, it's the intelligent stuff that's a wee bit nasty ... have to do it on demand
17:46<thor_>did list_as_shuffled ever work with intelligent shuffle?
17:47<Chutt>probably not
17:47<thor_>should it?
17:47<Chutt>probably
17:47<Chutt>i don't know, i don't use it =)
17:48<thor_>problem is you can change the score, which means the tree (and therefore the GUI) is jumping around while you're adjusting the tracks properties
17:48<thor_>hmmm
17:49<Chutt>moegreen, 'video list' does nothing yet, right?
17:49<Chutt>all looks nice, too bad i don't have any movies to use it on =)
17:50<moegreen>Chutt: right
17:50<Chutt>hey, want to make some new arrows kind of like those big left/right ones you have for the main menu?
17:50<Chutt>=)
17:51<moegreen>heh, I can do that - you need each direction or just up and down?
17:51<Chutt>just up/down
17:52<Chutt>used when there's more than 6 items on the menu
17:53<moegreen>a little bigger than the ones in the browser?
17:53<Chutt>yeah
17:53<Chutt>or something
17:53<Chutt>i dunno
17:56<Chutt>moegreen, now you just need to add built-in dvd playback, and it's all set =)
17:57<moegreen>heh, I guess I need a dvd-rom first then :)
17:57<thor_>and make it change my mobo settings to make spdif work
17:57<thor_>=)
17:57<moegreen>I had an extra one, but it kept randomly ejecting the disc even when not used :(
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17:58<moegreen>Chutt: did you try adding a few 'fake' videos to a directory to test the imdb lookup?
18:04<thor_>Chutt, would we be happy if list_as_shuffled worked for all shuffling modes, but reordering based in "intelligent" weights didn't happen until the next instantiation of the player?
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19:49<thor_>so much for gratitude
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20:05<mdz_>"Don't answer me that I can do it myself, it is way better to have them mantained by you :)"
20:05<mdz_>mythtv-dev: the feel-good list of the year
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20:06<moegreen>mdz_: Indeed
20:13<Chutt>thor, i don't use the intelligent playlist stuff, so whatever's easier for you =)
20:27<Chutt>heh
20:27<Chutt>moegreen, aye, that's what i did
20:29<Chutt>hmm
20:29<Chutt>it might be wise to treat .'s as spaces in the filenames
20:30<Chutt>moegreen, the 'plot' section on the video browser doesn't line wrap for me
20:32<moegreen>Chutt: is it just doing the ...?
20:32<Chutt>yeah
20:33<moegreen>Chutt: I have that problem on two of my videos, now that this is mostly done, I'm going to go back to the uitypes.cpp and do the ... as it should be done
20:33<Chutt>ah, heh
20:35<moegreen>Not sure what the mailing list guy was talking about with launch mozilla from mythvideo, but hey - why not :)
20:36<moegreen>I guess maybe he has a directory with a list of 'bookmarks' and can start mozilla straight off of them, heh
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21:02<Captain_Murdoch>mdz: I put the delete oldrecorded in programinfo because it's not really a scheduled recording you're deleting. kinda weird to have to pass a programinfo to another class just to delete a record in a table using all the info from the programinfo object.
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21:12<Captain_Murdoch>mdz: also it doesn't make sense to only delete oldrecorded if the chanid's match. what if the same show is coming on a different channel?
21:13<thor_>Chutt, this is working ... list_as_shuffled but the shuffle ordering is only done on startup. I think I'll call it a feature =)
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21:17<rkulagow>hrmm. "uitypes.o: Going to be hard to request an update without a parent." this is mythfrontend, current cvs when going into the watch recordings screen.
21:18<thor_>that's me ... will be gone soon
21:18<thor_>just a cout
21:22<rkulagow_>ok, thanks.
21:23<rkulagow_>going to take the Win2K Professional MCSE test on < 24 hours. wonder if i can pass?
21:23<rkulagow_>(< 24 hours notice)
21:41<yebyen>hm, anyone else experiencing a crash in the delete dialog?
21:41<yebyen>reproduceable too
21:42<yebyen>delete all of the shows in a single show category, then after it goes back to "All Programs" try scrolling down a few categories
21:51<yebyen>hm, only if you delete them from the left side
22:07<Captain_Murdoch>moegreen: do I need to submit a 1-line patch request to have the new mythvideo treat underscores as spaces in filenames? :)
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22:14<Captain_Murdoch>moegreen: actually another question also. can we do the moviePlot.replace(QRegExp("""), "\"") statement(s) inside of parseData? I just had a & in a title that didn't get translated.
22:18<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: it's scheduledrecording which puts the record there in the first place
22:18<mdz_>and so it makes sense for it to delete it as well
22:18<mdz_>though I suppose programinfo could just as easily do both
22:19<mdz_>feel free to move it if you like; it just didn't make sense to have the same code in both places
22:20<Captain_Murdoch>does it require a scheduled recording in order to delete the oldrecorded entry?
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22:21<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: I assume you mean when it converts the filename to a title?
22:21<Captain_Murdoch>what do you think about the chanid also? I record Law & Order and it's on several channels. If I want to unsuppress it will only work for one channel right?
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22:22<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: yes, I agree about the chanid
22:23<mdz_>it should not matter
22:23<Captain_Murdoch>I mean I see programinfo::getprogramrecordingstatus creating a new ScheduledRecording object. I just wanted to verity if it will work even if I have to have a recording scheduled for the show I'm trying to delete.
22:23<Captain_Murdoch>sorry, typoed that. even if I _don't_ have a recording scheduled. :)
22:23<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: that function isn't static, no, but it could be. it could also go in programinfo.
22:23<mdz_>it doesn't rely on anything in scheduledrecording
22:24<mdz_>I'm not entirely happy with the way this works though
22:24<mdz_>I'd like to have a more flexible override mechanism
22:24<mdz_>extending the program table a bit seems like the right idea
22:25<Captain_Murdoch>isn't the whole purpose of oldrecorded just to keep track of what I've recorded so I don't record it again? is it actually used for anything else?
22:25<mdz_>right, it is currently used for nothing else
22:25<mdz_>which is why it's OK to just delete things from it for now
22:26<Captain_Murdoch>so the Unsuppress Recording could eventually be extended to use a better method but since oldrecorded is the only thing controlling it now it works.
22:26<mdz_>yep
22:27<mdz_>I've been thinking about how to merge per-program conflict settings and duplicate suppression into a simpler override mechanism
22:27<Captain_Murdoch>I'd rather have a more flexible way, but this gets it functional now. I can record that episode of junkyard wars that I missed half of the other day without having to hand-edit the table. :)
22:27<mdz_>maybe just a numeric priority for a program
22:30<Captain_Murdoch>I think that idea was tossed around a while back. does tivo do it that way? I remember someone mentioning having a list and just moving things up/down the list to prioritize.
22:30<Captain_Murdoch>do you want to change the chanid thing since it's your code?
22:31<mdz_>I don't have a tivo
22:31<mdz_>dunno much about it
22:31<Captain_Murdoch>me neither.
22:31<mdz_>sure, I'll change it
22:31<thor_>me either
22:31<Captain_Murdoch>debated getting one about a year ago then found myth and never thought about tivo again.
22:33<Captain_Murdoch>mdz, have you looked at Joseph A. Caputo's program table patch he mentioned on the list for unsuppressing recordings?
22:33<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: I noticed it, but didn't read it
22:33<mdz_>yet
22:33<mdz_>it sounds similar to what I was thinking of
22:33<mdz_>but I don't know whether it was implemented with additional uses in mind
22:33<Captain_Murdoch>I don't htink he posted a current version of the patch yet, said he needed to resync with cvs.
22:33<mdz_>or just duplicate suppression
22:34<mdz_>oh, right
22:34<mdz_>he posted one a while back though
22:34<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, I don't remember the previous patch.
22:34<mdz_>oh, about removing from oldrecorded, does it do the right thing if subtitle and/or description is null?
22:34<Captain_Murdoch>you mean your code?
22:34<mdz_>you did it the same way i did, I believe, and I never got around to checking that
22:35<mdz_>(it's the same)
22:35<mdz_>I think they come through as empty qstrings at that point
22:35<mdz_>but I'm not sure whether they're empty or NULL in the db
22:36<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, I don't think the oldrecorded table should have nulls in it. I don't have any rows in mine with null title, subtitle or description.
22:36<mdz_>ok
22:36<Captain_Murdoch>they are empty string.
22:42<Captain_Murdoch>moegreen: what about my files with _ in them? :) j/k
22:50<yebyen>hm
22:50<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: yeah, as soon as I committed I remembered that :)
22:51<Captain_Murdoch>:) just kidding you. wasn't sure if you were going to put in the period substitution like Chutt mentioned either.
22:52<Captain_Murdoch>for some reason I can't control mplayer once it was fired off. had to kill it from another window. great work by the way....
22:52<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: thanks. I'm going to do the . after I remove the extension, testing it now
22:54<Captain_Murdoch>weird. it worked 1 time but all other times (tried 5 different videos) I can't use any keys.
22:54<Captain_Murdoch>probably my windoe manager hosing things up.
22:54<Captain_Murdoch>window manager even.
22:56<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, focus issue.
23:00<Captain_Murdoch>so once they are in the videometadata table all frontends can access the info right?
23:01<Captain_Murdoch>or all instances of mythvideo no matter what server i guess I should say.
23:01<Captain_Murdoch>as long as they have local access to the file.
23:01<yebyen>anyone else want to test for a reproduceable crash?
23:02<Captain_Murdoch>yebyen: your delete crash?
23:02<yebyen>yeah
23:02<yebyen>it's in cvs from a few hours ago
23:02<Captain_Murdoch>that's moe's code. he may know what's going on.
23:02<yebyen>oh, k
23:02<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: yeah
23:02<yebyen>moegreen: you do know?
23:03<Captain_Murdoch>yebyen: he's not psychic though. :) you might want to describe the problem.
23:03<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: Though right now the coverart/poster is stored in the user's individual directory - you might need to replicate that across frontends (~/.mythtv/MythVideo)
23:03<Captain_Murdoch>need to share my mythtv user's home dir across nfs. :)
23:03<yebyen>moegreen: when I delete every episode of a show from the delete dialog...
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23:03<MysticOne>good evening :)
23:03<moegreen>yebyen: let's see you delete while in the left hand menu and once you've deleted them all - it segfaults or what?
23:04<yebyen>moegreen: once I deleted them all, it segfaults after I move down a few menu items
23:04<MysticOne>I had a quick question ... where does MythTV happen to get the EPG listings?
23:04<yebyen>well, it crashes... I don't recall any error message
23:04<Captain_Murdoch>MysticOne: xmltv.
23:04<bigguy>MysticOne: depends on the country
23:04<yebyen>i'm also getting this uitypes.o: Going to be hard to request an update without a parent
23:04<yebyen>all the time
23:04<MysticOne>would be in the US
23:04<bigguy>but it uses xmltv for most
23:04<MysticOne>hmm...
23:04<yebyen>assuming it's one of those random debugging messages
23:04<yebyen>and unrelated
23:05<MysticOne>where does xmltv get them? :) Or does it not matter because it has them for pretty much everything and just works? :)
23:05<bigguy>MysticOne: zap2it
23:05<Captain_Murdoch>yebyen: those are unrelated and not a problem. thor should be fixing those soon I think he said.
23:05<yebyen>alright
23:05<MysticOne>ahh, I see
23:05<MysticOne>sweet
23:05<yebyen>moegreen: able to reproduce?
23:06<MysticOne>I'm about to embark on building a MythTV box, so ... wanted to make sure I could get listings :)
23:06<moegreen>yebyen: I'll have to record something first, hold on
23:06<yebyen>k
23:06<yebyen>you might need multiple entries in the list
23:06<bigguy>MysticOne: most of the developers are in the us
23:06<yebyen>i think the lowest number I tried it with was 6
23:06<bigguy>bo all but most
23:06<bigguy>not all even
23:06<moegreen>yebyen: though I can probably just look at it and see what's wrong - either way, hold on :)
23:07<MysticOne>thank you for the information
23:07<yebyen>moegreen: for future reference, should I give you a backtrace, or just tell you how to reproduce it?
23:07<MysticOne>I'm probably going to try with one of the little shuttle PCs (the tiny cute ones) and a hardware encoder card like the WinPVR 250/350
23:07<bigguy>MysticOne: no problem
23:07<yebyen>(obviously a backtrace would be helpful if you can't reproduce it)
23:07<MysticOne>hopefully that'll work out pretty good ... it'll be encoding box + anime fansub watching box :)
23:08<yebyen>i'm thinking of building a mini-itx box
23:08<bigguy>MysticOne: might want to check the mythtv email archives
23:08<yebyen>debating whether I should get a tiny one that doesn't do a pci card, and just use it to play...
23:08<MysticOne>bigguy: recalling some stuff regarding those boxen in there?
23:08<bigguy>MysticOne: some have had problems with those boxen I've heard
23:08<Captain_Murdoch>moegreen: that dell works pretty good as a frontend. have it all painted black and it's smaller than my VCR. only problem I have with it is that I can't use the pvr250 as the same time as the network card or it hoses the 250's dma somehow. it's using the 3c59x driver for network. so I'll just put the 250 in another machine.
23:08<MysticOne>hmmm
23:08<yebyen>or one that can do a pci card, and have it encode as well as record
23:08<MysticOne>I'll check that out
23:08<yebyen>err, yeah
23:08<MysticOne>thanks for the headsup
23:08<MysticOne>anyway, heading out
23:08* MysticOnewaves
23:08<MysticOne>you guys have been helpful :) thanks again :)
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23:09<bigguy>later
23:09<yebyen>bigguy: pen0r!
23:09<bigguy>yebyen: hotsexwithchicks
23:09* bigguylags
23:10<bigguy>ugh
23:10<bigguy>25% 8======D {0} 32,523,256 3.89K/s ETA 6:35:53
23:10<bigguy>I hate dialup
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23:10<Timon>Anyone seen Andy (inman) lately?
23:10<bigguy>I hope they offer cable in Searcy
23:11<bigguy>and hope I can get it in the apartment
23:11<moegreen>Timon: he was moving - so he may be without internet access, I haven't seen him around
23:11<Timon>Ahh, thanks moegreen
23:12<Timon>Got to be painful to be w/o internet access.
23:12<Captain_Murdoch>moegreen: has the commercial skip stuff been doing OK on those episodes of CSI you've been recording? It's been having problems sometimes here because of too many dark frames/scenes I think.
23:13<moegreen>yebyen: so, you delete a bunch of episodes, then it removes the episode name from the left-hand list, and when you scroll down it dies - does it die when wrapping around?
23:13<moegreen>Captain_Murdoch: I think Chutt watches CSI, it seems to work fine for Chapelle's Show and Seinfeld though :)
23:14<yebyen>moegreen: dies after moving down just one or two series names.
23:15<Captain_Murdoch>sorry, I thought you were recording it also. :) works here great for most things, just noticed a few times lately it's been bad.
23:15<FryGuy>is there "keep at most" code to automagically delete stuff when you get more than n of them?
23:15<Captain_Murdoch>FryGuy: not yet.
23:16<yebyen>moegreen: hmm, I can't reproduce it again..
23:16<Captain_Murdoch>theasp is working on auto-deletion code I think.
23:16<yebyen>Captain_Murdoch: i can't wait
23:16<yebyen>that going in the next release?
23:16<yebyen>:)
23:16<Captain_Murdoch>dunno, haven't seen a patch. not sure anybody has yet.
23:16<bigguy>ugh who's jeff c
23:17<yebyen>well, just re-reading this comment from Chutt over a month ago... "My current TODO list is really tiny, so I'm thinking of putting out the next release, 0.9, fairly soon."
23:17* yebyenruns
23:17<bigguy>damn his email beating mine
23:18<bigguy>yeb "The Troublemaker" yen
23:18<moegreen>yebyen: If you could get a backtrace that would be better. I looked at the code, it looks to be resetting all the variables that need to be
23:19<yebyen>moegreen: if I can get it to crash again, heh.
23:19<Timon>moegreen: I get this in mythweather: "uitypes.o: Going to be hard to request an update without a parent"
23:19<yebyen>moegreen: it seemed reproduceable before
23:20<Timon>Get a bunch of those
23:20<moegreen>Timon: blame thor :)
23:20<yebyen>moegreen: i don't really want to recompile with debug mode, it takes ages to compile
23:20<moegreen>Timon: he's got an extra cout statement in there I think
23:20<thor_>all right all right I'll do a commit
23:20<Timon>thor, read the above message :-)
23:20<Timon>Ahh, ok
23:20<thor_>Timon, it's just a cout
23:20<thor_>nothing to worry about
23:21<Timon>Oh, I didn't know if it was a cerr or something reporting a problem
23:21<thor_>moegreen, you in the middle of some libmyth/uitype stuff
23:21<moegreen>thor_: No, when you're finished I'm going to fix the ... thing
23:21<yebyen>thing!
23:21<thor_>is that the "dots" as filename spaces thing, or the cutDown thing?
23:22<moegreen>thor_: cutdown
23:22<thor_>can you put it in base UIType object?
23:22<thor_>I keep cutting and pasting it to other classes (that inherit from UIType)
23:22<Timon>Does anyone have a copy of the latest mplayer? The site is down
23:23<moegreen>thor_: yeah
23:23<thor_>gracias
23:23<yebyen>Timon: i was just trying to get there
23:23<yebyen>like, right now
23:23<thor_>so, I will commit in a few minutes
23:23<Timon>yebyen: You make it in?
23:23<yebyen>no
23:23<yebyen>it just sits there
23:23<Timon>Same
23:26<thor_>moegreen, also ... I'm in the middle of trying to get every UIType class know it's dimensions on the actual screen (after wmult/hmult, and factoring in the relative place of their container). If I/we can get every type to set QRect screen_area, then things like cutDown are a lot simpler
23:27<Timon>moegreen: Just an astetisc (sp?) issue, I can submit a patch if you want, but since your in there :-) Anyways, on to the issue: Mythvideo :: BrowseVideos I don't have any videos in there and it says "1 of 0"
23:27<moegreen>Timon: try changing your default parental level
23:28<Timon>I have it set to 4
23:28<Timon>Same when I set it to 1
23:28<moegreen>Timon: Did you go into the Video Manager first?
23:29<Timon>Nothing found in video manager :-)
23:29<moegreen>Timon: And your startup dir is set and correct?
23:29<moegreen>From the 'General' settings?
23:29<Timon>Yeah
23:30<Timon>Umm, no :-)
23:30<moegreen>thor_: Yeah, I've got the texttype knowing it's height/width, but it would be nice if everything knew it's dimensions
23:31<thor_>when I commit, just grep on screen_area
23:32<thor_>I'm doing it because I've got UIType's asking the Dialog to be repainted when they get pushed() (signals & slots!), and it's just the right thing to do for them to only call an update on their screen area
23:33<Timon>yebyen: You using mandrake?
23:34<yebyen>debian
23:34<Timon>yebyen: Ahh, ok. If you had mandake, you could just urpmi mplayer and get it that way
23:34<yebyen>you can apt-get install mplayer-686, if you have the marillat sources
23:35<yebyen>just doesn't play mythtv files
23:36<Timon>I can't use deb. It wouldn't install on my system cause my drive was bigger than 137gb
23:36<yebyen>?
23:36<yebyen>that doesn't sound right
23:37<bigguy>erm it should work no problem
23:37<yebyen>at worst you might need a partition at the beginning of the drive (<100mb) for /boot
23:37<yebyen>at absolute worst
23:37<Timon>Flat out wouldn't get past the partition setup. It freaked out saying the partition table was messed up. I told it to wipe it out and it freaked still.
23:38<yebyen>hm
23:38<Timon>yebyen: Tried that. a 3gb boot, and the rest for storage and it still freaked
23:38<Timon>I'm using 3.0 rc1
23:38<yebyen>Timon: 3gb /boot! heh
23:38<yebyen>Timon: 20mb would've done the trick
23:38<yebyen>/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2
23:38<yebyen> 92M 7.3M 80M 9% /boot
23:38<Timon>yebyen: Um, I should have said 3gb /
23:38<yebyen>oh
23:38<bigguy>Timon: did you try bf2.4?
23:39<Timon>yup
23:39<bigguy>weird
23:39<Timon>bf2.4 worked a little better, but still bombed
23:39<bigguy>installed straight off for me
23:40<yebyen>i'm tired
23:41<yebyen>going to sleep after this apt-get upgrade
23:41<Timon>MPlayer 0.90-3.2.2 is the latest right?
23:42<bigguy> /boot 85M / 10g /home 30g /usr 15g /data the rest off a 160 and also did it on a 200 gig
23:42<bigguy>debian is the only linux distro I like anymore
23:42<Timon>bigguy: No clue why it didn't work for me then.
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23:43<bigguy>I need to get the latest openbsd iso and install it back on my gateway
23:44* Timonlikes *bsd
23:45<bigguy>I only like open
23:45<bigguy>nets ok but I'm not a fan of freebsd or most of it's developers
23:47<Timon>why not free?
23:47<bigguy>heh I just didn't like the feel
23:48<bigguy>it's kinda hard for me to put some things into words
23:48<bigguy>I wasn't impressed
23:48<Timon>I've never played with net or open. But I dig freebsd. I like how there is one controlling body, one distro
23:48<Timon>Not like linux where you have 100 different distros and 100 different places that they put files
23:49<bigguy>but that's just it they are all BSD dists
23:49<yebyen>blum blum blum
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23:50<bigguy>I don't really agree that one controling body is always a good thing
23:50<Timon>chmod +s is setuid right?
23:50<Captain_Murdoch>u+s setuid, g+s setgid
23:51<bigguy>of course that's why open and free both broke away
23:51<Timon>bigguy: Its not always, but atleast when I use freebsd, I know the config files are going in one place and the bins in another
23:51<bigguy>Timon: that's why you pick one you like and stick with it
23:52<Timon>Thats just it, I don't really like Linux.
23:53<bigguy>I started out long ago on linux
23:53<Timon>But, the hardware support in linux is FAR superior than bsd
23:53<Timon>Same here, back in 93 or 94
23:53<bigguy>I played with 386bsd but didn't like it much
23:53<Timon>Started on slackware with a 1.something kernel.
23:53<bigguy>Timon: 91/92 school year is when I started playing with linux
23:54<bigguy>I think it was around october that me and the chem teacher got it running on one of the boxen he had
23:55<Timon>The new linux distros are way better than the old stuff.
23:55<Timon>My best friend at the time introduced me to it.
23:55<bigguy>yeah
23:56<bigguy>I used bogus and slack for a while tried redhat but hated it jumped on board the early efforts to get debian going and other than a few do it myself episodes I've stuck with debian
23:57<Timon>I used slack for a long time. RedHat was ok, but it just really didnt' strike my fancy. Tried to hide to much from the user. I tried to use deb, but it didn't like me :-)
23:58<bigguy>I'm not a big fan of the python/nano loving people behind the gentoo distro
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23:58<Timon>Never used gentoo
23:59<bigguy>and I say if you want ports use bsd
23:59<bigguy>:P
23:59<Timon>Amen.
23:59<Timon>I do like the ports tree. I know most sysadmins don't care for it, but I'm not a sysadmin by trade. I just want something easy to get a mail/web/ftp/blah server up and running
23:59<Timon>This is really fustrating, I can't get mplayer to output sound