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00:01<Chutt>so you're using CVS fulltime now?
00:05<thor_>making modules when you build a new kernel is a good thing to do
00:06<thor_>specially if you want to mount your root filesystem
00:06<thor_>(i.e. I am still an idiot)
00:11<Chutt>heh
00:12<Chutt>there's a debian package that'll build kernel debs for you
00:12<Chutt>i usually use that
00:12* bigguywonders about adding an image to his grub menu
00:14<thor_>suprsingly large number of problems with gcc 3.3 <--> kernel 2.4.20
00:15<thor_>too many steps to keep having to read the debian docs on top of it
00:15<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: what about adding a field to say "don't record this episode of this show I normally record"? got any ideas on doing that rather than a field? it also might be nice if there was a way to tell Myth to record every episode of a show whether dup or not rather than having to go in and unsuppress every dup-ed episode.
00:15<bigguy>thor_: what problems are you having?
00:15<rcaskey_>if you were really suave you could also check to make sure you weren't recording the same episode guide if the episode description matched exactly one that was already on disk
00:16<bigguy>thor_: I built a 2.4.21 and 2.5.70 with 3.3
00:16<thor_>reiserfs modules will not build, some net stuff needs to be redefined as static
00:16<rcaskey_>s/guide/
00:16<bigguy>ah
00:16<bigguy>I don't use reiserfs
00:18<Captain_Murdoch>rcaskey_: yeah, well, might make sense for scheduler to check recorded table for dup as well as oldrecorded table.
00:18<thor_>all the kernel threads I stumble across seem to be grumblings that gcc 3.3 is too clever for it's own good
00:18<thor_>still ... smooth fonts
00:19<rcaskey_>Captain_Murdoch: well you could delete it, then want to record it again
00:19<rcaskey_>dunno
00:19<rcaskey_>OTOH you could be archiving everything to vcd and not want to rerecord it
00:22<Captain_Murdoch>rcaskey_: but if you delete it, then it's not in recorded. :) we're talking about how to unsuppress something, right now it just deletes the entry from oldrecorded. I'm fine with that, Isaac says it's ok, but others think different. right now if you unsuppress and still have the original, Myth will keep 2 copies around.
00:23<Captain_Murdoch>more than one issue.
00:23<rcaskey_>ohh
00:24<Captain_Murdoch>there's a discussion on the list with a patch someone sent in to give the ability to force a few things but it's in discussion if that's the best way to do it.
00:26<bline>I should see if I can get ivtv's mailing list archive hosted
00:27<Captain_Murdoch>deleting oldrecorded allows you to unsuppress a recording, so that leaves forcing-suppress (not all that important), and forcing record of all episodes rather than having to unsuppress each time a dup occurs (provided it isn't already still in the recorded table and hasn't been deleted yet).
00:27<Captain_Murdoch>anyway, bed calls. guess I'll go dream in code about it.
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02:03<d_low>hi
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02:29<LeandroD>hello, I need a little Qt help... I have a QChar and I need to get its ascii code...
02:31<thor_>.toInt() + ?
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02:32<thor_>.toString().toInt() + ?
02:36<thor_>.unicode()
02:36<Chutt>latin1()
02:37<thor_>ah ha
02:37<Chutt>doesn't deal with wide chars, but...
02:39<LeandroD>uhm... I'll try, thank you
02:43<LeandroD>thor, toInt + 48 is valid only if the QChar/QString is a number
02:43<LeandroD>instead I want 65 if I apply the "magic function" to A
02:44<thor_>LeandroD, yup ... I think latin1() is your answer
02:46<LeandroD>thor, you are right, with latin1 I get a char* and then a [0] make the remaining work. Thank you
02:47<thor_>thank Chutt
02:47<LeandroD>sorry Chutt... I have to thank you. Thank you Chutt
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10:34<Chutt>vektor, yo
10:38<vektor>yo :)
10:39<vektor>i'm back home, got my PVR-250
10:39<vektor>haven't put it in yet though
10:39<Chutt>heh
10:39<vektor>it looks cool though
10:39<vektor>but damn, the driver looks like crap
10:40<poptix>patches are welcome ;)
10:40<vektor>i'm just going to get their crappy recorder app to work and then i'll do my player
10:40<poptix>er
10:40<vektor>poptix: do you know if the driver devs hang on irc?
10:40<poptix>vektor: are you looking at the ivtv driver, or the NDA driver?
10:40<vektor>ivtv
10:40<poptix>#ivtv-dev
10:40<vektor>oh ?
10:41<poptix>what 'recorder app'?
10:41<Chutt>i don't think the main guy uses irc, though
10:41<vektor>oh.
10:41<vektor>there is some 'odd code' in their driver.
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10:43<poptix>such as?
10:44<rkulagow_>and i think the "main guy" (kevin?) is out doing charitable works in some far away country for a few weeks.
10:44<vektor>the single-space tab stuff
10:45<poptix>oh
10:45<poptix>people have crappy indentation standards
10:45* poptixprefers 3 spaces or 1 tab
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11:43<vektor>Chutt: aww dude, did you move your repository again?
11:45<vektor>:)
11:51<Chutt>heh, why?
11:52<Chutt>i've got some test code in there that uses your vsync.c code :p
11:52<vektor>oh neat
11:53<vektor>well i went to update and it didn't work
11:53<vektor>but it's ok
11:53<vektor>i'm grabbing now
11:53<Chutt>heh
11:53<Chutt>still doesn't work perfectly yet
11:53<vektor>so, i'm going to turn tvtime into a player
11:53<vektor>for mpeg2 files
11:53<Chutt>but it's usually pretty smooth
11:53<vektor>is that down with you?
11:53<Chutt>i don't care :p
11:53<vektor>oh, you're not interested?
11:54<Chutt>sure, i'll steal code, perhaps =)
11:54<vektor>well i dunno
11:55<vektor>i mean, i'd like to do something useful
11:56<Chutt>making tvtime into a mpg2 player isn't useful?
11:57<vektor>well i think we'd be the first 60fps mpeg2 player
11:57<vektor>that doesn't suck
11:57<vektor>wouldn't that be useful?
11:57<Chutt>heh
11:57<Chutt>yup
11:57<vektor>i'd like though to be the display end for mythtv
11:57<vektor>what do i need to do for that?
11:57<Chutt>hey, how do you deal with a monitor refresh rate of 75hz?
11:57<vektor>Chutt: you give the idiot a 59.94hz modeline
11:57<Chutt>heh
11:58<Chutt>that works
11:58<Chutt>well
11:58<Chutt>would you want _all_ of tvtime to be the display stuff?
11:59<Chutt>i would need a lower-resouce using display mode than what you have, though, for all the silly people that insist on using underpowered machines
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12:00<vektor>tvtime now supports some very very low-resource display modes.
12:00<vektor>and a 59.94hz modeline only really works if your display code triple buffers
12:00<vektor>otherwise things can get fucked
12:01<vektor>we need to do a patch for the nv driver
12:01<Chutt>heh
12:01<Chutt>well
12:01<vektor>it shouldn't be hard
12:01<vektor>that said, a good deinterlacing alg makes 75hz just fine
12:01<vektor>but 59.94hz will blow it away every time
12:01<Chutt>in mythtv now, i've got all the actual file format handling stuff moved out of the playback code
12:01<vektor>oh ok, perfect
12:02<Chutt>there's still other stuff in there, like the commercial skipping code and edit mode stuff
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12:07<emacsen>Are there MythTV debs?
12:07<Chutt>they're linked from the website.
12:07<emacsen>not in the docs...
12:07<emacsen>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1
12:07<emacsen>has Red Hat, Gentoo, etc
12:07<Chutt>erm
12:07<Chutt>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.6
12:08<Chutt>in the 'downloading and compiling' section
12:08<emacsen>doheth
12:08<emacsen>thanks
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12:15<emacsen>Chutt: how about mythtv + fscktv ? ;)
12:17<Chutt>uh, no
12:30<Chutt>moegreen, hi
12:30<moegreen>Chutt: what's up
12:31<Chutt>was wondering if you saw those minor image loading cleanups i committed yesterday
12:31<Chutt>it would probably be better to change some of the image loading routines in uitypes to eventually use the loadscale stuff in the context as well
12:32<moegreen>I just saw the commit message, didn't get a chance to look at them
12:32<Chutt>ok =)
12:33<Chutt>also, i was wonderin what your timeline was on the mythvideo stuff
12:33<thor_>ah good, moegreen .... did I understand correctly that I should try and do something with VideoList button -->dialog for tree browsing ?
12:34<Chutt>like, the easiest thing for mythvideo would be to just include the old code, and allow people to bind it to extra buttons
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12:38<thor_>It's not clear to me what VideoList is supposed to do, given the existence of Browse Videos
12:41<moegreen>thor_: It would be like the old code, but with the optional addition of IMDB information at the top. So a tree browsing through the directories would work great I think.
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12:42<moegreen>It's just for a different way to access the videos, the browsing doesn't really work if you have a ton of videos I guess
12:42<thor_>ah ... ok
12:42<thor_>would like me to try and whip something up then
12:42<moegreen>yeah, that would be great
12:42<orangey>moegreen: I noticed a couple more UI changes.. is mythmusic skinnable now?
12:43<thor_>playback is
12:43<moegreen>orangey: that's thor's department (mythmusic ui)
12:43<orangey>hehe. sorry : )
12:44<orangey>alright.. I'm going to be going away for quite a while, so I want to do a final SQ release in the next week or two
12:44<orangey>any other notes?
12:44<moegreen>orangey: mythvideo is now
12:45<orangey>moegreen: I thought it always was (well, in the last few months)
12:52<mdz>vektor: howdy
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13:27<AndreasB>hi all
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13:40<vektor>mdz: heya :)
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13:43<Chutt>hrmph
13:43<Chutt>guy from wired news still hasn't called
13:44<Conaz>They doing an interview with you?
13:44<Chutt>supposedly
13:44<Conaz>very cool.
13:44<Chutt>i'm tired of waiting, though =)
13:44<Conaz>Yes, I can imagine
13:45<Conaz>You'd think those news types would be more prompt, seeing as how they deal with deadlines all the time
13:47<mdz>it's wired, not a real publication
13:47<Chutt>hehe
13:47<Chutt>right
13:47<Conaz>I suppose
13:47<Chutt>and just their website crap
13:47<Conaz>they don't have any print type deadlines
13:48<Conaz>They are all spawn of the same media machine though
13:49<Chutt>i finally got around to putting a note on the webpage in the 'system requirements' section about AIW cards not working
13:49<Chutt>not that people will read that
13:50<Conaz>Of course, they want to get to the good stuff, not spend time figuring out how to get there
13:52<rkulagow_>"myth.tv has not been registered and is available for $500.00/ year*". *2 year registration.
13:53<Conaz>Where did you see that quote?
13:53<rkulagow_>type www.myth.tv into your browser
13:54<Conaz>I guess they parked it for nothing then eh?!
13:54<Conaz>nothing wrong with remembering mythtv.org :)
13:54<rkulagow_>well, it's verisign, so for them it's "free"
14:02<thor_>f'ing sf.net
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14:08<stiq02>hey guys, anyone have any good gentoo ebuilds for mythtv? that use the latest cvs?
14:08<Conaz>All of the .tv domains cannot be $500 / yr are they?
14:08<stiq02>Conaz: they are for businesses
14:09<Conaz>I suppose, apparently they aren't catering to the cable access folks :)
14:10<stiq02>anyone use gentoo here?
14:13<choenig>stiq02: yes I do, but not the ebuilds
14:13<stiq02>choenig: i wonder why no one has made any ebuilds for gentoo cvs
14:13<stiq02>err
14:13<stiq02>mythtv cvs
14:14<choenig>did you check the ML archive? I don't know if there are some
14:14<stiq02>no i havent, i personally cant stand Mailing Lists
14:14<choenig>search here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/
14:31<stiq02>to much to search though
14:32<stiq02>anyone have gentoo ebuilds?
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14:45<Chutt>so
14:45<Chutt>guy from wired just called
14:46<Chutt>he wants to hear from someone else that has a system put together, etc, to know how long it took, how hard to setup
14:47<Chutt>any takers? =)
14:47<Captain_Murdoch_>so who's the most competent non-programmer type who got it working?
14:48<Captain_Murdoch_>get him to talk to moegreen and he can get the MIL acceptance factor in the article as well.
14:48<Chutt>rkulagow
14:48<Chutt>you mean
14:48<Captain_Murdoch_>right, sorry.
14:48<Captain_Murdoch_>dohhh
14:49<Captain_Murdoch_>I knew I remembered someone talking about the MIL the other day. no wonder moe didn't know what I was talking about when I made a comment to him later. :)
14:49<Chutt>heh
14:49<Chutt>rkulagow, wake up =)
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14:51<stiq02>anyone have gentoo ebuilds?
14:51<Chutt>there's been some posted to the mailing list
14:52<rkulagow_>i'm here/ what up?
14:52<Chutt>the wired news guy wants more info on stuff
14:53<Chutt>would you be interested in maybe talking to him about your setup?
14:53<rkulagow_>hasn't been hanging out in IRC, has he?
14:53<rkulagow_>=)
14:53<Chutt>since you've got a more complex system with multiple machines, etc
14:53<rkulagow_>sure, i guess i could talk to him. who is it?
14:53<Chutt>i'll send you an email
14:53<rkulagow_>great.
14:54<Chutt>wouldn't happen to have a picture of it, would you?
14:54<Chutt>since he still wants something like that
14:54<thor_>rkulagow, just to be sure, do you know what MIL stands for?
14:54<rkulagow_>well, have a digital camera, so I guess i could.
14:54<rkulagow_>umm, if "MIL" stands for what i've been using it for, it's mother-in-law.
14:54<Chutt>heh
14:55<rkulagow_>do i get a gold star for today?
14:55<thor_>purple happy face
14:55<orangey>rkulagow_: I was just wondering what MIL stood for
14:55<Chutt>definitely :p
14:55<rkulagow_>too bad they won't wait until tomorrow - newegg / fedex is delivering a pundit.
14:55<rkulagow_>(i'm sure it'll look prettyier than the kludged together system i have now.
14:55<Chutt>heh
14:56<thor_>photoshop?
14:56<Chutt>he's doin the story today, apparently
14:57<orangey>and he only contacted you today?
14:57<orangey>that's relatively shitty planning.
14:57<Chutt>last friday
14:57<Chutt>rkulagow, which email address?
14:58<rkulagow_>ah; the MIL factor is heavily dependant on two things: 1) the coolness of commercial skip and 2) the shittyness of my backend, which has been a royal PITA. i'm running 2.4.21RC1, and i keep getting kernel segfaults when things get "interesting", which means that i lose recordings. that part of the reason for the pundit - one "don't touch" system, and a bunch of "break me" boxes.
14:58<rkulagow_>chutt: rocketmail account is fine.
15:00<Chutt>sent
15:00<Chutt>and, thanks
15:00<rkulagow_>the "dying remote" was also a PITA until i figured out that it was my Tivo remote killing lircd for whatever reason.
15:01<rkulagow_>but those aren't Myth problems.
15:05<thor_>rkulagow_, what are you planning for IR receiver in the pundit?
15:05<Chutt>the pvr-250 remote is actually fairly nice
15:06<rkulagow_>i've got the old crappy pvr-250 remote without the pretty colored buttons.
15:06<Chutt>the ir dongle thing's easy to hide
15:06<thor_>seems crazy to put everything they did in there and then not have an IrDA window
15:07<thor_>still ... nice box
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15:07<orangey>thor_: you can build it into a whole bunch of other things..
15:07<orangey>thor_: have you seen the Tie Fighter example on the lirc page?
15:07<rkulagow_>seems like it. since i can't get asus to send me free hardware like via did with chutt i'll have to go out of pocket for this one...
15:07<orangey>thor_: I just taped mine to the arm of a bionicle: http://tarek.2y.net/romote.jpg
15:08<thor_>orangey, superb
15:09<orangey>thor_: hehehe. OK, so I accept that the bionicle isn't.. but the tie fighter is! : )
15:09<stiq02>hey guys, have you guys seen or heard of anyone making mythtv ebuilds for gentoo linux?
15:09<Chutt>stiq02, there have been several posted to the mailing list.
15:09<orangey>stiq02: Repeating the question is fine if a) you haven't been heard or b) you haven't gotten a response, but not if c) you don't want to actually do any work
15:09<stiq02>Chutt: really, i was looking and doing searches on the ML but i pulled up nothing
15:10<stiq02>orangey: what makes you think i havent done any work?
15:10<orangey>stiq02: because you asked the question 3 times, gaining the same answer, without moving on.
15:11<Chutt>ok
15:11<stiq02>orangey: i asked the question 3 times, got 1 response
15:11<Chutt>'gentoo ebuild' pops up, amazingly, a number of links for ebuilds
15:11<thor_>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=60663;search_string=gentoo%20ebuild;guest=559947&t=search_engine#60663
15:11<thor_>(ebuild is even attached to that one)
15:12<orangey>stiq02: 1st time, choenig responded, and you told him that "i personally cant stand Mailing Lists". Second time, you were ignored because you asked within 1 minute of the first time. Third time, chutt said "there's been some posted to the mailing list", and fourth time, we're having this discussion
15:13<orangey>thor isn't helping you, he's turning you into an addict
15:15<Chutt>heh
15:15<thor_>so that would make a pusher .... cool
15:18<stiq02>orangey: u cant count its 3
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15:35<rkulagow_>anyone ever hear from nziarek? seems to have fallen off the face of the earth, or at least IRC.
15:35<Chutt>i haven't
15:42<Chutt>he did send an email more recently than he's been on irc, but even that was quite a while ago
15:45<bline>Good Morning.
15:46<Chutt>howdy
15:58<AndreasB>hi all
15:58<AndreasB>i'm having major performace issues with myth tv... any suggestions?
15:59<AndreasB>i'm using Gentoo (the ebuild), a VIA Nehemiah CPU, a Hauppauge WinTV/PVR and 265MB RAM
15:59<AndreasB>also i use German :-) TV
16:00<Chutt>scale down resolution and bitrate
16:00<Chutt>the nehemiah can just barely play back large mpgs
16:00<AndreasB>Chutt: where? Frontend or Backend?
16:00<Chutt>frontend for the resolution
16:00<AndreasB>kk... will try
16:00<Chutt>you'll have to use test_ioctl to change the bitrate
16:01<AndreasB>Chutt: and how do i use that?
16:01<Chutt>that cpu is just _barely_ enough
16:01<AndreasB>:)
16:01<Chutt>check the docs
16:01<AndreasB>it has to work :-))
16:01<Chutt>naw
16:01<Chutt>it doesn't
16:01<stiq02>why is HL2 looking so much better than doom3
16:01<Chutt>and when it goes to draw the OSD, that takes another 20-30% cpu, which can generally put it over 100% required
16:02<AndreasB>Chutt: hmmmmm
16:03<AndreasB>Chutt: how come xawtv, motv and fbtv work so nice??
16:03<AndreasB>can i use any of them in mythtv?
16:03<Chutt>because they're not recording
16:03<Chutt>and they're not playing back anything
16:04<AndreasB>Chutt: so mythv always records?
16:04<AndreasB>Chutt: why??
16:04<Chutt>and they don't do alpha blended images into the osd =)
16:04<AndreasB>yeah... i figuered that.. but how about just _watching_ tv?
16:04<Chutt>what's the point of just watching tv?
16:04<AndreasB>looool
16:04<AndreasB>well... watching :-)
16:05<Chutt>i mean, you can't pause it
16:05<AndreasB>true
16:05<Chutt>you can't skip back
16:05<mdz>why?? WHY GOD WHY???
16:05<Chutt>you _can_ set it up so that the watch tv button in mythtv launches xawtv or tvtime or whatever, though
16:05<Chutt>mdz, shaddup :p
16:06<mdz>heh
16:06<AndreasB>Chutt: wow.. thats exactly what i need... how do i accomplish that... is there any documentation?
16:07<Chutt>just edit the tvmenu.xml file
16:07<mdz>AndreasB: look at mainmenu.xml
16:07<Chutt>it's pretty obvious
16:07<mdz>for examples
16:09<AndreasB>Chutt: ok... thanks alot !!!!!
16:09<AndreasB>Chutt: will give it a try!
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16:21<mdz>there has been an abundance of punctuation in the channel this afternoon
16:22<Chutt>yes!!
16:22<rkulagow_>yes!!!!!1!!!!11!!!!
16:22<Chutt>did that guy contact you?
16:22<rkulagow_>chutt: nope.
16:22<Chutt>oh well
16:22<Chutt>he was all in a hurry when i talked to him
16:23<rkulagow_>mebbe a breaking story?
16:23<Chutt>naw
16:24<rkulagow_>well, if he calls, great, if not, then oh well. it's his deadline anyways...
16:24<Chutt>aye
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16:26<Captain_Murdoch_>A quote from the upcoming article... "I was unable to find anyone other than the author who actually had MythTV running."
16:27<mdz>"also, the author declined to provide me with a photograph of the mythtv"
16:27<Chutt>heh
16:27<Chutt>i wasn't going to take a picture of me and my computer
16:27<Captain_Murdoch_>"so the name fits, it is indeed 'Myth'ical"
16:27<mdz>"It is this reporter's conclusion that the mythtv does not exist"
16:57<rkulagow_>chutt, why don't people understand that when you say "current CVS", "two or three days ago" isn't "current"?
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17:00<Chutt>they're dumb
17:06<Captain_Murdoch_>probably because some projects only have cvs updates every few days/weeks, hence the problem... people assume.
17:09<mdz>some projects have cvs updates much more often than mythtv, too
17:09<mdz>they really are just dumb
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17:11<AndreasB>i cant seem to get the wheater module to work... it complains about a missing ACCID File... can anyone help??
17:12<mdz>maybe... you didn't install it correctly??
17:13<AndreasB>mdz: pfff
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17:13<AndreasB>yeah i did
17:13<mdz>the accid.dat file... is installed... when you run "make install"!!
17:14<mdz>AndreasB: what is this about, the /msg you sent me?
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17:16<AndreasB>mdz: i thought u were complainng about mythtv... maybe i got that wrong... sorry
17:17<mdz>AndreasB: no, I'm actually a big fan of mythtv
17:17<AndreasB>hehe... /me too
17:17<AndreasB>mdz: have you had a look on freevo??
17:18<mdz>not for a long time; I saw enough
17:18<AndreasB>mdz: same here..
17:18<AndreasB>mdz: well.. make install did install the files in a wrong directory.
17:18<AndreasB>and locate accid.dat doesn't find anything
17:19<mdz>it installs them in the directory you configured in settings.pro
17:19<AndreasB>hmmmm
17:19<AndreasB>hold on.. i'll have a look
17:20<AndreasB>well... its not there :(
17:20<AndreasB>i double checked the installation... its definitly not there
17:21<AndreasB>there is a weathertypes.dat....
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17:30<AndreasB>mdz: i've manually downloaded the file from the cvs-repository now... this should solve the problem, i guess
17:36<mdz>Chutt: yes, I am running CVS full-time now
17:37<mdz>for the past week or so
17:37<AndreasB>yeah... did they change a lot in CVS?
17:44<AndreasB>any clue how i could localize mythweather??
17:44<AndreasB>i'd like to have everything displayed in germen
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18:06<rcaskey>are there debs available of pre .9 stuff or do they need to be buitl from cvs?
18:12<Captain_Murdoch_>rcaskey: shouldn't be, I don't think Chutt wants any .deb or any other packages created from cvs.
18:13<rcaskey>ok
18:16<Captain_Murdoch_>nice to see my wife's 3 hours of daily afternoon shows only taking up 1/2 as much space today since I set them up to use a lower-res profile yesterday.
18:16<Captain_Murdoch_>2GB per day instead of 4, she'll never notice.
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18:27<cryptonic>is it normal for mythbackend to use 100% cpu even when not recording or watching anything
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18:28<mdz>Captain_Murdoch: anything unexpected happen? that code hasn't seen much testing
18:44<AndreasB>i got a weired problem with mythmusic now... i put some mp3's in the /mnt/store/music/ and they don't show in "Select Music". but they are beeing "checked"... i can see that on the command line!
18:44<AndreasB>any suggestions?
18:57<AndreasB>i get a "Illegal instruction" whenever i try to play... mythmusic parses my mp3's.. i just cant play them :(
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19:29<Captain_Murdoch>mdz: haven't had a chance to watch any of the shows. worked as expected though. all 4 shows' files are about 1/2 size. and the editor worked to change the profile entry in the table.
19:31<Captain_Murdoch>actually I did watch the first few seconds of each of them a little while ago, so I guess that's testing enough since all it is is a different recording profile, so it looks like it worked.
19:48<Chutt>mythmusic needs a scrolly text widget for the title
19:51<Chutt>hmm
19:51<Chutt>that, need to do the config stuff for mythmusic and mythweather
19:51<Chutt>need to test mythgame with latest xmame
19:51<Chutt>and i'd like to get mythmusic doing the transparent stuff in the background pixmap properly
19:52<Chutt>and that's bout it for the todo list for the release
19:52<thor_>yup yup and yup
19:52<Chutt>i'll do as much of the mythmusic stuff as i can
19:52<Chutt>but you're certainly welcome to if you want =)
19:52<thor_>I noticed a few problems with initial install
19:53<thor_>that I want to fix
19:53<Chutt>music, or tv?
19:53<thor_>music
19:53<Chutt>ah, ok
19:53<thor_>lots of scarry error messages
19:53<Chutt>heh
19:53<Chutt>well, that's relatively easy to test/fix
19:53<thor_>yup
19:53<Chutt>just have to wipe the db and stuff
19:53<thor_>glad I got orbs
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20:00<thor_>gd f'ing fonts
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20:03<AndreasB>i got a weired problem with mythmusic now... i put some mp3's in the /mnt/store/music/ and they don't show in "Select Music". but they are beeing "checked"... i can see that on the command line!
20:03<AndreasB>any suggestions?
20:03<AndreasB>i get a "Illegal instruction" whenever i try to play... mythmusic parses my mp3's.. i just cant play them :(
20:05<AndreasB>l
20:06<AndreasB>noone here anymore?
20:06<thor_>bad mp3's ?
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20:06<AndreasB>thor_: no... definitly not
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20:07<thor_>they in the select music tree?
20:08<AndreasB>yeah
20:08<AndreasB>they show up
20:08<AndreasB>but whenever i select some, and do play, mythmusic crashes
20:08<thor_>what's the output at the crash?
20:09<AndreasB>just "Illegal Instruction"
20:09<thor_>well .... if you could compile for debugging and send a backtrace to the mailing list, that would help
20:10<AndreasB>so how do i do that?
20:11<thor_>hang on a sec ... is your audio working in myth?
20:11<thor_>in tv?
20:11<AndreasB>yeah
20:11<AndreasB>alsa is working fine
20:11<AndreasB>and tv works fine, too
20:12<thor_>live tv works fine?
20:12<AndreasB>yeah
20:13<thor_>if you could play an ogg or rip a cd with mythmusic and try and play that, we could figure out if it's an generic audio problem or an mp3 specific one
20:13<AndreasB>i tried ripping, too... it crashes
20:14<thor_>you can rip with anything, abcde is good ...
20:14<thor_>tags everything just right
20:14<AndreasB>that i did (you mean track names, right?)
20:14<thor_>I mean a piece of software called "abcde"
20:15<AndreasB>ohhhhhh
20:15<thor_>a better cd encoder
20:15<AndreasB>ok
20:15<AndreasB>i'll give it a try, hang on....
20:15<thor_>rip an cd to ogg with that
20:16<thor_>also, did you set your audio device in mythmusic setup, and go through all the screens to the end?
20:16<thor_>I suspect you may be trying to play through your TV tuner card
20:16<thor_> /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, etc
20:17<AndreasB>no... i dont have tvaudio module loaded... sound device is /dev/snd
20:17<thor_>is it set in mythmusic?
20:17<AndreasB>i use alsa9 on gentoo...
20:17<AndreasB>yeah
20:17<AndreasB>its set
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20:39<Chutt>andreasb, sounds like you've got some libraries that are compiled for the wrong cpu type
20:40<AndreasB>Chutt: whew... how do you know that?
20:41<Chutt>because that's generally what causes an illegal instruction
20:41<AndreasB>ah, ok
20:41<AndreasB>i thought this was a mythmusic error
20:41<AndreasB>welll...
20:41<Chutt>i doubt it is
20:41<AndreasB>in the makefile, there is a pentium option
20:42<Chutt>if it were a mythmusic problem, it would die with 'illegal instruction' immediately
20:42<AndreasB>hmmm
20:42<AndreasB>thats what it does
20:42<AndreasB>id dies
20:42<AndreasB>it
20:42<Chutt>err
20:42<Chutt>no
20:42<Chutt>immediately
20:42<AndreasB>yeah
20:42<Chutt>not after it's been running
20:43<AndreasB>ah
20:43<Chutt>it wouldn't run _at all_
20:43<AndreasB>ok
20:43<AndreasB>it does run
20:43<Chutt>which says you've got some libraries miscompiled.
20:44<AndreasB>sure about the librarys? i'm using gentoo linux, and my gcc starts with the perfect march option whenever i install something
20:44<Chutt>i'm almost absolutely certain.
20:44<AndreasB>could it be that mythmusi is miscompiled?
20:44<Chutt>if it were, it wouldn't run.
20:44<Chutt>it's not that complicated.
20:44<AndreasB>hmm
20:44<AndreasB>true
20:44<Ripp>AndreasB: that's coz gentoo sets it explictly for emerge-ing, are you using an ebuild for myth?
20:45<AndreasB>Ripp: yeah
20:45<AndreasB>there is one available at mythtv homepage#
20:45<Ripp>hm last I used an ebuild it changed the cflags to match /etc/make.conf...
20:46<AndreasB>yeah
20:46<Ripp>try re-emerging it and see if you can see what it's setting it to?
20:46<AndreasB>and i did compile the ebuilds of the librarys via emerge
20:46<AndreasB>k, hold on
20:46<AndreasB>oh, this is set in settings.pro of mythmusic: QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE = -O3 -march=pentiumpro
20:48<AndreasB>ok: here is what i did: i checked the requirements of mythmsic in the README file and emerged every singe library.
20:48<AndreasB>and since i used the gentoo ebuilds everything should be ok
20:49<Ripp>AndreasB: was there an ebuild for mythmusic? (been a while since I did it that way)
20:49<Ripp>there didn't used to be
20:50<AndreasB>Ripp: there is no ebuild for mythmusic afaik
20:50<AndreasB>i just used the ebuild for mythtv itself
20:50<Ripp>K then you need to change the -march in settings.pro for the addons.
20:50<AndreasB>it worked fine...
20:50<AndreasB>Ripp: ok
20:50<AndreasB>Ripp: will try
20:56<AndreasB>gd... wife wants me to join her.. guess i'll try tomorrow :)
20:56<AndreasB>cya all
20:56<AndreasB>thanks for the help!!
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20:58<yebyen>blum blum blum
21:01<Ripp>isn't that kind of stuff in the docs?
21:01<Ripp>like under, 'installing' or something
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21:27<Captain_Murdoch>Cool. I have it so that if you hit 'I' from the conflicts screen it pops up the regular InfoDialog box. If you hit 'I' on the infodialog box it pops up the advanced recording options.
21:30<Chutt>nice
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21:30<Captain_Murdoch>taking out the other stuff i had to map to 'M' in viewscheduled now.
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21:36<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: what was the verdict on adding recording options like "Record this show in this timeslot on this day of the week"? I know you didn't want to clutter up the normal recording info box, but if that was on the advanced box would you go for it?
21:37<Captain_Murdoch>then the code could automatically take you to the advanced editor if you had picked an advanced recording option.
21:37<nyquiljer>Captain_Murdoch: it doesnt have that option already?
21:38<Captain_Murdoch>no, if you pick timeslot it records every day of the week if it occurs in that timeslot I thought.
21:39<Captain_Murdoch>maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought it was discussed on the list a while back.
21:39<nyquiljer>Captain_Murdoch: hm, i remember it being discussed, and then after a cvs update i think it got added. i remember saying wow, weekly timeslot. but i very well may be mistaken
21:39<Chutt>captain_murdoch, that's fine
21:39<Chutt>might as well add options to ignore repeats while we're at it
21:40<Chutt>not everyone will have that data, but...
21:41<Captain_Murdoch>just thinking down the line, not ready to touch the scheduler to add such a feature, but once the advanced edit is in place after 0.9 it can be thought about or done.
21:41<Captain_Murdoch>not sure what you mean by ignore repeats.
21:42<Chutt>some grabbers have a repeat flag
21:42<Captain_Murdoch>nyquiljer: maybe it's in there, I need to look at the code more. if so then adding it to the advanced edit screen will be easy. :)
21:42<Chutt>sure, the oldrecorded stuff _should_ work
21:43<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: ok, I saw that field in programinfo I think.
21:43<Chutt>right
21:43<Captain_Murdoch>scheduler also will need to check the recorded table if the unsuppress feature goes in so it doesn't waste time recording something it has already recorded (still in recorded table) but that isn't in the oldrecorded table.
21:54<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: if there was a "weekly timeslot" option it would have to be covered in ScheduledRecording::findAllProgramsToRecord() right? I don't see it there so I guess it wasn't implemented right?
21:54<Chutt>i dunno
21:54<Chutt>have to check with mdz
21:54<Captain_Murdoch>actually, I guess the code could check the date elsewhere, but that functino is where it would make sense.
21:54<Captain_Murdoch>ok.
21:54<Captain_Murdoch>s/date/day/
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21:56<Captain_Murdoch>should be easy to add anyway after 0.9.
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22:12<cryptonic>bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask anyone ever get that before?
22:22<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: yes, it would have to be in that query
22:22<Captain_Murdoch>nyquiljer: that weekslot patch was sent in by the other Thor on the mailing list at the end of March. doesn't look like he's posted since April. I'm going to post to the -users list to see if he's updated it for current cvs.
22:22<Captain_Murdoch>mdz: thought so. thanks
22:23<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: currently it would need to be added to loadByProgram as well
22:23<mdz_>I'd like to unify those
22:24<Captain_Murdoch>ok, so maybe it be better to wait. I think it might be nice to have a weekdayslot recording as well, to record a timeslot on M-F.
22:24<Captain_Murdoch>probably not as handy though.
22:24<mdz_>I think the current code handles that pretty well
22:24<mdz_>by matching on the name
22:25<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, that's what I thought after I typed the comment. :)
22:25<Captain_Murdoch>course here Wheel Of Fortune and Jeopardy come on at the same time M-Sat w/ Sat being a re-run so it's not unlikely.
22:25<nyquiljer>Captain_Murdoch: how do they decide which to rerun?
22:26<Captain_Murdoch>dunno. just know it's a rerun on Saturdays when I've seen it. at one time they were airing ones from the original season or somehing because Pat & Vanna were teenagers. lol
22:29<Captain_Murdoch>mdz: did you see my comment about hitting 'I' twice on the conflict screen?
22:29<mdz_>Captain_Murdoch: no
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22:30<Captain_Murdoch>I have it so if you hit 'I' once it brings up the infodialog as it does not. If you hit 'I' in the infodialog it pops up the advanced recording dialog. when you ESC/Enter/Space out of the advanced it closes both.
22:30<Captain_Murdoch>so fast I didn't see the infodialog close
22:30<Captain_Murdoch>just does a reject() after exec-ing the advanced dialog.
22:34<mdz_>hmm
22:34<mdz_>that sounds OK
22:34<Captain_Murdoch>so the advanced does the save then the infodialog is rejected so it doesn't botch up the advanced's work.
22:35<mdz_>right, and the advanced dialog should be a superset of the regular one
22:36<mdz_>in fact, I had originally thought about making a configwidget which looked like the current infodialog
22:36<mdz_>and just replacing it
22:36<Captain_Murdoch>yeah. advanced is off of scheduledrecording the regular one is an infodialog. could possibly get rid of infodialog sometime though and just make scheduledrecording display in advanced or regular mode.
22:36<mdz_>but the config stuff is all left/right rather than up/down
22:36<mdz_>so it would have to look different, or be very confusing
22:37<Captain_Murdoch>current advanced has same exact top as infodialog but with "Advanced Recording Options" above the episode info. then at the bottom it has 2 comboboxes with recording frequency/schedule and profiles.
22:38<Captain_Murdoch>I got that programinfo::displaywidget working and in use by infodialog and scheduledrecording.
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23:44<Chutt>heh
23:44<Chutt>i can't reproduce either of the problems just reported to the lists
23:47<Chutt>oh, wait, the pip stuff just hit it