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00:08<Chutt>agar, your tuner card is getting wrongly detected as PAL, not NTSC. search the mythtv mailing lists for a resolution
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00:14<Scrye>man i gotta make my computers puppy safe now :/
00:14<Scrye>http://wang.dynup.net/photos/homer/
00:22<agar>Chutt: no I'm using the proper tuner
00:22<agar>I've done that part already
00:22<agar>card 63 and tuner 17 setup
00:24<Scrye>proper tuner but its set to PAL
00:24<Scrye>you need to set it to NTSC
00:24<Chutt>on, sorry, i misread you
00:24<Chutt>sure you're using a working cable?
00:25<Chutt>svideo minus a connection is blank and white
00:26<agar>its an ati tv wonder and it uses that purple hub
00:26<agar>composite doesn't work at all and s video is as I said in b&w
00:26<agar>so I'll check the pins
00:27<agar>that stupid cable doesn't go in easily
00:27<Scrye>you sure its an svideo cable?
00:28<thor>Chutt, you thinking about a stably-themeable 0.10 before too long?
00:28<Chutt>sure
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00:29<thor>got bits and pieces of a separated mythmusic ...
00:29<thor>but it will completely break themes
00:29<Chutt>why?
00:29<thor>totally different screens
00:29<agar>Chutt: a pin is bent in
00:29<agar>thanks
00:29<Chutt>really?
00:29<agar>yes
00:29<Scrye>heh
00:29<Scrye>good call chutt
00:30<agar>just need to find some small pliers
00:30<thor>... rewrite ... do things differently ... themeable selection tree, etc. ...
00:31<Chutt>ah
00:31<Chutt>0.11, then?
00:31<Scrye>is mythweb activly developed?
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00:32<thor>Chutt, yeah ... would like to get 0.10 out ...
00:32<thor>so there's a tweaked version out there
00:32<thor>while a lot of changes would happen for 0.11
00:32<thor>(at least in my little corner)
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00:33<thor>Scrye, CVS is a lot of patches, there's a rumour of a major rewrite in the works, but it's looking a little dormant at the moment
00:34<Scrye>is someone activly maintaining it?
00:34<thor>depends how you define active (?)
00:34<Scrye>because that is somthing i excell at
00:34<justin>mythtv+90deg weather dont mix heh
00:34<Scrye>well, adding features etc?
00:34<thor>Scrye, php ?
00:34<Scrye>php sql etc
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00:35<thor>There's a ton of stuff to be done ....
00:35<Chutt>thor, that guy was out for the week
00:35<thor>Ah
00:35<Scrye>like what
00:35<Scrye>Im gonna be home doggie sitting this week and i need somthing to do
00:36<thor>Scrye, no-one will complain if you make it better =)
00:36<thor>just a question of getting orthogonal with pending work on the rewrite
00:37<Scrye>where is the rewrite
00:37<thor>I don't know ... do a "mythweb rewrite" on -dev ...
00:38<thor>there's been some work done, but none of it commited
00:38<Scrye> // (c) 2002 by Thor Sigvaldason and Isaac Richards
00:38<Scrye>thats you and chutt right?
00:38<thor>well ... I haven't really done anything on it 6 months
00:39<thor>in 6 months
00:39<thor>but ... yeah
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00:39<Scrye>class based.. nice.
00:40<Scrye> function smellsLikeMovie()
00:40<Scrye>heh
00:41<thor>The guy who has been working on the rewrite is "Chris Peterson"
00:41<Scrye>ok
00:41<Scrye>is this a sanctioned rewrite or some guy doing it on his own?
00:41<thor>hie e-mail is Chris Petersen <lists@forevermore.net> if you want to try and co-ordinate
00:42<thor>"sanctioned" would be a semantically loaded concept
00:42<Scrye>hrm i meant have you two given it to him to control
00:42<Scrye>or is he doing it for his own jollies
00:43<thor>he sent me an e-mail and said, "what should I do" ?
00:43<Scrye>heh
00:43<Scrye>i'll email him later and ask him on his progress
00:43<Scrye>and see if he needs any help
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00:49<agar>ah colour
00:49<agar>much better
00:51<thor>rkulagow, you up?
01:03<FreddieD>Do you guys find the S-Video out on your vid cards to provide dvd quality video? I read somewhere that the TV-outs arent all that hot
01:03<FreddieD>they suggest to instead spend about $90 on this: http://store.yahoo.com/aitech/webcableplus.html
01:08<agar>have any of you ever played with motion?
01:10<FreddieD>nope
01:14<agar>would you be able to help me with a compile error anyways?
01:15<Scrye>my tvout works fine
01:15<Scrye>old TNT1
01:16<agar>Scrye: I have a geforce 2 with tv out and you can't really read text on a tv
01:19<Scrye>cant read mine at all heh
01:19<Scrye>of course i have an old school 13" color tv
01:20<agar>my television is 20"
01:20<agar>it is acceptable for watching movies though
01:21<bline>hey Chutt, you around
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03:36<fulbert>I got bit by this xmltv bug, rebuilding from cvs now, anything special to do when upgrading?
03:38<bline>yeah
03:38<bline>cvs.sql
03:39<fulbert>ah, cool. once my P3 get's done compiling myth ;-)...
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03:44<fulbert>thanks, nite.
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09:05<Gulliver>hey all
09:05<Gulliver>Can someone tell me in what format recordings get saved when I use a wintv pvr-250/350 and if it is possible to export them as a dvd?
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09:42<PeteCool>hmm, how would I do '<' or '>' in .lircrc ?
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12:12<msmith99>zaheer: hi, got your email, here I am
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13:05<agar>is there a way to manually remove a recording when it won't let you remove it
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15:18<activelo>anyone using qt's mysql driver as a shared library?
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15:58<Timon>ls
15:58<Timon>oops, wrong window
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19:08<bline>mornin
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19:58<brunes>hey everyone :) got mythtv working great, only problem is my console blanks after about 10 - 15 mins of no activity.. anyone know how to turn this off in linux?
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20:06<bigguy>hmm
20:06<bigguy>brunes: in X or console?
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20:07<bigguy>xset s off && xset dpms off
20:07<bigguy>in X
20:08<choenig>brunes: if you 'console' is X, you could add 'Option "BlankTime" "0"' to the ServerLayout section of your XF86Config
20:09<brunes>option BlankTIme 0.. sweet
20:09<brunes>thanks
20:10<choenig>np
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21:02<tdb30_>anyone around what to help me with lirc? I got it working on my laptop but I can't get it to work on this computer
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21:22<bline>whats the question
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21:34<tdb30_>the question was why doesn't it work on one computer when it works on another.
21:34<tdb30_>I'm wondering if I'm missing a step
21:35<tdb30_>I load libc_serial okay (or so it seems) and lircd runs without error and when I do rc SEND_ONCE Cable POWER the command doesn't report an error. Yet my leds on the transmiter indicate it isn't initialized properly.
21:35<tdb30_>So I'm guessing there is an issue with the lirc_serial module.
21:35<tdb30_>but I can't figure it out.
21:36<tdb30_>setserial works to set ttyS0 to uart unknown.
21:36<tdb30_>so that shouldn't be a problem.
21:36<tdb30_>my serial ports are forced to use the standard 3f8 irq 4
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21:48<rcaskey>Chutt: a new itp was issued for ffmpeg on d-d
21:48<rcaskey>just a FYI
22:07<mdz_>rcaskey: it'll be dropped for the same reasons as the previous 50 :-)
22:07<mdz_>unless someone goes through and rips out all the patented stuff
22:07<Chutt>which makes it rather useless
22:09<bigguy>itp?
22:10<rcaskey>intent to package
22:11<bigguy>ah
22:21<ca1vin>just upgraded my ivtv drivers, major improvement
22:22<Chutt>bline, you here?
22:22<bline>yeah
22:22<Chutt>that's basically why i have the color controls off
22:22<Chutt>can't get at the shift key status
22:23<Chutt>and really, that's a silly way to bind keys to em
22:23<bline>yeah you can, I had a fix but it breaks the case insensitivity of all the other keys
22:23<Chutt>right
22:23<Chutt>i'd just bind the controls to f1/f2/f3/f4, etc for now
22:23<Chutt>one for each
22:24<bline>here is what I did to test:
22:24<bline> key = k->key();
22:24<bline> bs = k->state();
22:24<bline>
22:24<bline> if (key < 91 && key > 64 && !(bs & Qt::ShiftButton))
22:24<bline> key += 32;
22:24<bline>in eventFilter
22:24<Chutt>ah
22:25<bline>but this doesn't work with capslock
22:25<bline>and all the Key_X stuff is no longer case insensitive
22:25<Chutt>right
22:25<Chutt>until i get the menu stuff going
22:26<Chutt>i'd just change the keybindings to something where the keyboard state doesn't matter
22:26<bline>ok, I'll change the patch to change the keys for the color stuff and remove the case correction
22:27<bline>aside from that, I'm done
22:27<Chutt>cool
22:30<Chutt>yay
22:30<ahbritto>bline: Why use decimal? Isn't : 'a'-'A' clearer that 32? Or >= 'A' better than > 64?
22:30<Chutt>new mythtv.org is live
22:30<ca1vin>neat
22:31<bline>heh, running out of keys
22:32<bline>ahbritto: there is no difference
22:33<ahbritto>bline: I know the 32 by heart, I know ascii 65 is 'A', but 91 I did not have memorized, I think it might be more readable for newbies not to use decimal.
22:34<Chutt>doesn't really matter, as that code's not going into the tree
22:35<ahbritto>oh, I thought it was for others. :/
22:35<ahbritto>Chutt: So I have been reading myth sources...
22:35<ahbritto>Is there any reason use use sleep in loop instead of mutexes?
22:36<Chutt>quite a bit easier than creating a mutex for all the conditions
22:37<ahbritto>Never would have occured to me.
22:44<mdz_>once theora encoding works, you could rip out everything but vorbis and theora and have something vaguely useful
22:44<mdz_>though presumably slow
22:44<Chutt>it _should_ be relatively fast
22:45<Chutt>since it'd be reusing a lot of the existing optimized functions
22:45<mdz_>I seem to recall something about not being able to use the motion compensation stuff
22:45<Chutt>ah, could be
22:45<mdz_>because theora/vp3 did something different
22:45<mdz_>the vorbis encoder uses libvorbis, right?
22:45<Chutt>it'd probably have to use uncompressed audio if you wanted good sync, though
22:45<Chutt>yeah
22:45<Chutt>libvorbis doesn't have a low latency encode mode
22:46<mdz_>I think the vorbis encoder uses more CPU than the libavcodec MPEG-4 video encoder
22:50<bline>Chutt: enough of the F[0-9] keys are used that I can't use just F keys to do the increase/decrease of all the color stuff, I could remove the other ones, they are not documented and have other mapping asinde from those keys
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22:50<Chutt>they're mapped to stuff?
22:50<Chutt>really?
22:51<bline>yeah, F5, F8, F9, F10 and F11
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22:52<Chutt>take em out
22:52<bline>okie
22:53<Chutt>if someone wants em, they can add em back in a non-conflicting manner =)
22:53<Chutt>well, you only need 1-8, right?
22:53<bline>yep
22:53<Chutt>leave the volume control ones, then, if you don't mind
22:53<bline>sure
22:55<Chutt>cool.
22:55<Chutt>going to submit that soonish?
22:55<Chutt>i'm thinking wednesday night for the next release
22:55<bline>do you think that guy who posted about customizable keys is going to finish it?
22:55<Chutt>i dunno
22:55<Chutt>he's doing it semi-properly, though
22:55<bline>yeah, in the next 15 minutes or so
22:56<bline>encourage him :)
23:01<Chutt>yea yea
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23:20<bline>sent
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23:34<bline>should I have incremented the version of the database scheme?
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23:57<Chutt>bline, yeah, but that's ok, i'll do it
23:58<Chutt>bline, if you're feeling bored, how about cleaning up all that duplicated code that handles the color/brightness stuff? =)