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00:03<Chutt>rkulagow, hey man
00:05<mechou>chutt, was Capt_Murdoch able to give you a successful gbd trace re delete freeze issue?
00:09<rkulagow_>hey chutt. going though tv_play and seeing how to modify SetupPlayer to check for the existence / validness of the file before spawning the decoder. no need to proceed if we can't do anything with the file...
00:14<thor>rkulagow, I am now
00:15<thor>Chutt, do I need to know anything other than cvs add for new module ?
00:17<rkulagow_>thor: that stuff with the visualization classes defined in mythmusic that don't seem to do anything: that was back when i was trying to piece together a setup for mythmusic that would allow you to choose visualizations using remote (by using a boolean for each visualization) as opposed to typing it in.
00:17<thor>ah
00:18<thor>do we want to resurect that, or rip it ?
00:18<rkulagow_>but i got over my head at some point, and didn't have the cycles to finish.
00:20<rkulagow_>i'm trying to remember what the exact difficulty was. i had divided the screen into at least two vertical columns (too many visualizations to fit in a single column), but there was something about how everything needed to be saved. mdz pointed me at the setup program and how the XMLTV stuff was overriding one of the libraries (i think), and that's when i realized that it was going to be harder than i thought.
00:20<rkulagow_>but it's a vague memory of what the actual problem was.
00:22<thor>I'll have a look at some point
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00:45<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt, you around?
00:50<Chutt>kinda.
00:50<Chutt>thor, cvs import
00:50<Chutt>i can do the initial commit if you'd like
00:51<thor>Chutt, probably a good idea ... just finishing a couple things
00:53<Chutt>just send me the source you want committed, and i'll get it in
00:53<thor>k, thanks
00:53<moegreen>Chutt: The backtrace sent to the list, that line is checking the value of a bool - any ideas?
00:53<Chutt>which backtrace?
00:54<moegreen>moegreen: MythWeather - erratic updates
00:54<moegreen>drrrr...
00:54<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt, I emailed you a bt from that mythfrontend freeze with a question about it.
00:54<moegreen>sent 7/25 at 3:43 pm (from Michael Thomson)
00:55<Chutt>moegreen, stopProcessing probably isn't getting set to true
00:55<Chutt>what toggles it?
00:55<moegreen>the timer
00:55<Chutt>hm
00:55<Chutt>i dunno
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00:55<Chutt>think it may somehow not be getting started or whatnot?
00:56<moegreen>so either the timer isn't firing or the INet stuff isn't finishing (or both I guess)
00:56<Chutt>probably the timer
00:56<Chutt>i'd think
00:56<Chutt>captain_murdoch, i'll look at it in a little bit, k?
00:57<Chutt>looks like it's going through the event loop twice, there
00:57<moegreen>the first one makes sure it gets the data from msnbc, at the same time I'm getting the first page of data so I can get the image location for the map
00:57<mikegrb>Chutt: does 90% cpu for mythbackend with MPEG-4, 400x400, 2500mbs on a 1.7 ghz celeron with nothing besides recording going on sound right?
00:58<mikegrb>hmm
00:58<mikegrb>sorry
00:59<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt, event loop twice in my bt? yeah, I noticed it looked weird.
00:59<mikegrb>it was only around 60% when I split out the threads
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01:20<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: if you see this, I'm assuming that double-event loop thing is because it's going back into the event loop in ReadStringList at qApp->processEvents(); Maybe I'm too quick on the remote. :)
01:21<Captain_Murdoch>I'll look at it later. gotta get some sleep.
02:05<thor>Chutt, on its way
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03:02<michal_>anyone here use a em8300 based card?
03:07<poptix>hrm
03:08<poptix>michal_: i have a few
03:08<poptix>it's not usable with mythtv
03:22<michal_>why?
03:23<michal_>mine doesn't seem to work properly with mplayer.. going to check with xine.. basically no sound and it locks up.. i can fast forward or rewind but then it locks again
03:26<michal_>why won't xine run from the console even if you specify the dxr as the video driver?
03:36<michal_>mplayer looks like it can manage a few frames and the associated sound every 10-15 seconds :\
03:39<michal_>fucking xine piece of crap :( why does it require X11?
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06:05<KikoV>mdz, could you upload source code of debian packages to the repository?
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06:58<KikoV>is the mailing list failing?
06:58<KikoV>I have been adviced of bounces...
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11:11<Chutt>captain_murdoch, i believe i fixed your hang
11:24<bline>I've seen that hang also
11:29<Chutt>welp, it should be gone now =)
11:29<bline>cool, what was it?
11:29<Chutt>silly qsocket stuff
11:29<bline>ahh
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11:36<Chutt>thor, imported your stuff =)
11:42<bline>you weren't talking to me were you?
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11:44<Chutt>with the 'thor, imported your stuff'?
11:44<Chutt>no :p
11:44<bline>ok, I didn't think so
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12:54<PSUdaemon>mythsetup tells me that QMYSQL3 driver is not loaded :-(
12:54<PSUdaemon>does mythtv not support mysql 4.0?
12:55<Chutt>you didn't install the qt-mysql plugin.
12:55<PSUdaemon>hrmm, ok
12:55<PSUdaemon>thanks
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12:57<PSUdaemon>Chutt: is that like a seperate package i need to install? or something in the qt config?
12:58<Chutt>follow the instructions in the docs on the website.
12:58<Chutt>it goes over all that in detail.
12:58<PSUdaemon>ok. i must have missed that
12:58<PSUdaemon>thanks
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13:15<thor>Chut, yeah!
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14:02<Chutt>thor, is there any way to easily get the current GenericTree that's selected?
14:03<Chutt>for adding children to it..
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14:11<tmk>**yawn**
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14:11<Chutt>tmk, yo
14:12<tmk>sup
14:12<Chutt>nada
14:12<tmk>i made my own pvr over the weekend
14:12<tmk>dd if=file.mpg of=/dev/video1 bs=65536 skip=xx
14:12<tmk>and just change xx accordingly
14:12<tmk>commercial skipping!
14:13<Chutt>heh
14:16<tmk>looks like I'll be moving this week and be without broadband for a bit
14:16<tmk>those cvs updates may be slightly slower as a resuly
14:17<jkolb>Just blame it on sf.net. Noone will be able to tell the difference.
14:17<tmk>hehe i do that ahyways
14:18<jkolb>Ah
14:24<bbeattie>Chutt: did you see my message ysterday about asking which 'heck' for hdtv channel changing would be prefered?
14:25<Chutt>no
14:25<bbeattie>alright, the basics are that right now myth sets the incorrect channel, as HDTV channels don't match ntsc programming guides. And since xmltv doesn't get hdtv program listings a hack will be needed until it does.
14:26<Chutt>you can always go into the program database and change the freqid field
14:27<bbeattie>I did try to use an external command that sets the card's channel, and have myth only open the video device in Read Only mode, however, it still didn't work. The program either wasn't being called, or more likely that myth had the fd still locked somehow and I couldn't set the channel. The next option is to put the channel code hack into myth, until xmltv supports HDTV program listings. You're thoughts/comments?
14:28<Chutt>you can always go into the program database and change the freqid field
14:28<Chutt>as i just said :p
14:28<Chutt>it'll think it's one channel number, but tune to another.
14:30<bbeattie>So all hdtv myth users would have to edit the frequency table in myth's database? That's alright, I'll write a howto for that, but currently I've abstracted everything so a user can "hdchannelset 7" and it really sets the card to channel 42 by searching HDTV signals and info.
14:30<Chutt>well, until it the actual real data is available through xmltv
14:30<Chutt>seems ok to me..
14:32<bbeattie>Chutt: who maintains xml? do you know any of the developers?
14:32<Chutt>not really
14:32<Chutt>i've emailed them a couple times
14:32<Chutt>'bout it.
14:34<bbeattie>Chutt: I'll get the HDTV code patch to you sometime in the next few days. Code cleanup is all that's needed if we'll just have people edit their database..
14:39<Chutt>cool.
14:40<bigguy>hmm that looks surprisingly bluecurveish
14:40<bigguy>arg
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15:22<torment0r>i have a phillips tv-in card, and i'm trying to figure out how to get the thing step. I have v4l compiled in my kernel, but i'm thinking i'm missing a driver to get my /dev/video, any ideas where i should look?
15:23<Chutt>ask on the v4l list.
15:23<torment0r>ok
15:23<torment0r>thx
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15:42<bline>wow, look at all the teletext post
15:42<bline>s
15:44<Chutt>"hi, i'm going to work on the teletext stuff, but i want you to write all the code for me!"
15:45<bline>heh
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15:47<thor>Chutt, you had a question about GenericTree's ... but I lost my scrollback
15:47<thor>ah, cvs commits
15:47<thor>never mind
15:47<Chutt>yeah
15:49<sfr>Chutt, re CVS commits, saw the patch by Chris? to the automatic timezone offset calculation?
15:50<Chutt>no
15:50<Chutt>but i'll look at it later
15:50<sfr>it removes the requirement for Qt 3.1 btw.
15:51<Chutt>thor, any idea why a UIImageType wouldn't be displaying?
15:53<thor>Chutt, not in context?
15:53<thor>try ->refresh() ?
15:53<thor>dimensions out of container ?
15:53<Chutt>hrm
15:53<Chutt>it says it's drawing it, though
15:54<Chutt>in UIImageType::Draw
15:54<thor>cout << getContext()
15:54<thor>that's usually what buggers mer
15:54<Chutt>there's text areas in the same container that are getting drawn
15:54<thor>hm
15:54<thor>which app ?
15:54<Chutt>mythgame
15:54<thor>ah
15:55<thor>draworder ?
15:55<Chutt>same as the text images
15:56<Chutt>oh, nevermind
15:56<Chutt>got it to show up
15:56<Chutt>no idea what i changed
15:56<thor>what was it?
15:56<thor>ah
15:56<thor>make install ?
15:56<thor>v make
15:56<Chutt>nope
15:56<Chutt>i had changed some other stuff around recently
15:57<thor>you changing it to MythThemedDialog ?
15:57<Chutt>yeah
15:57<thor>cool
15:58<thor>don't b suprised to find hiccups in ManagedTreeLists .... especially if you use different font sizes for things ... I need to improve the Draw() method
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16:03<Chutt>thor, will you be able to work on the transcode stuff before you're out of country?
16:04<thor>yup
16:04<Chutt>cool.
16:04<thor>and while I'm away
16:04<thor>but not as much
16:04<Chutt>excellent =)
16:05<Chutt>i figure 0.11's done whenever you are, so =)
16:05<Chutt>well, after a few more bugfixes
16:05<thor>I need to fix the file size calculation, add ability to break rips into 1ofx pieces, and then it's fork() system() trancoding time
16:05<Chutt>heh
16:05<Chutt>does transcode give you progress info?
16:06<thor>it must
16:06<thor>there's a little Perl dvdrip application that shows progress
16:06<Chutt>ah
16:06<Chutt>yeah
16:06<thor>which just wraps transcode
16:07<Chutt>shouldn't be all that hard, then, hopefully
16:07<thor>nope
16:07<Chutt>you've done all the complicated stuff =)
16:07<thor>yeah
16:07<Chutt>i may look into moving the cd ripping code into the mtd
16:07<thor>had that in mind
16:07<thor>as ripdialog sends commands like job dvd blah
16:07<Chutt>oh, and i'd like to have mythweb2 in the 0.11 release as well
16:08<Chutt>so don't feel like stuff's waiting on you =)
16:08<thor>heh
16:10<thor>who ever is working on the .nuv transcoding stuff might want to have a look at the mtd as well
16:11<thor>at some point
16:11<Chutt>yeah, that'd make sense
16:12<thor>very possible to move jobs around between different boxen as well
16:12<Chutt>cool.
16:13<Chutt>oh, i did make a couple minor changes before i committed things this morning
16:13<thor>ah
16:13<thor>anything I should know about
16:13<Chutt>naw, not really
16:13<Chutt>made it save the default settings on init
16:13<Chutt>plugin init, rather
16:13<thor>ah
16:13<Chutt>and something else minor, but i can't remember it now
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16:13<michal>man.. my dxr3 is giving me trouble.. it plays a second of video/sound about every 15 seconds but it frozen the rest of the time..
16:14<thor>what's a dxr3 ?
16:16<thor>ah, you removed the empty database directory
16:16<thor>that's good
16:16<Chutt>it probably didn't get checked in
16:16<Chutt>heh
16:17<Chutt>12 source files removed =)
16:19<Chutt>gotta re-do the game settings code, though
16:20<michal>dxr3 is like a hollywood+.. it's an mpeg decoder card with svideo and ac3 out
16:21<michal>hollywood+ even
16:21<michal>dammit.. hollywood plus
16:22<michal>can't mythtv utilise these cards?
16:22<Chutt>nope.
16:22<Chutt>all the developers have machines that were bought in the last 5 years, generally, and so don't need hardware decoders :p
16:23<mdz>KikoV: the source packages are in the same place as the binary packages; they always have been
16:26<michal>image quality is MUCH better through them than anything that a tvout on the video card can provide
16:27<Chutt>doubtful, since anything you want to display that's non-mpeg format has to be re-encoded.
16:27<michal>transcoding divx to mpeg and out a dxr3 gives a better result than viewing the divx directly
16:27<mechou>umm, michal, yeah, if you don't mind a jittery picture...
16:27<Chutt>jittery?
16:27<Chutt>try using some working hardware :p
16:28<Chutt>but anyway
16:28<Chutt>if you want support for hardware, easiest thing to do is add it yourself.
16:29<mechou>well, hard to describe... like all the adjacent interlaced lines are offset with each other...
16:29<michal>looks like a good quality dvd
16:29<michal>if those are jittery for you then so might this be
16:29<michal>but it's perfectly stable for me
16:29<michal>anyone tried one of the rgb out via vga mods? that might give an even better picture.. don't know.. but i only have 1 rgb in on my tv
16:29<michal>mechou: no. there's no visible artefacting accept any blocking that was in the original divx (or whatever).. and my tv is pretty good at minimising those
16:30<michal>of course mine isn't working properly right now.. don't know if it's the microcode, a driver setting i've gotten wrong or the streams i'm trying to send it
16:31<michal>i'll look closer after work tonight
16:32<michal>btw.. isn't there a way to run xine without being in X?
16:32<mechou>try looking at some text (like credits) on dxr3. unstable to the point of being unreadable...
16:32<thor>given its name, that strikes me as unlikely
16:33<Chutt>this is #mythtv.
16:33<michal>of course maybe my problem is that the machine with the dxr3 in it is running of an nfs root
16:33<michal>mechou: the osd is working depsite my other problems with it and it's rock solid.. but then again my tv might be doing that
16:34<Snow-Man>Chutt: There does appear to be a problem with sendmail growing in size.
16:34<Chutt>snowman, heh
16:35<michal>what does mythtv use for video playback?? mplayer?
16:35<Chutt>hell no.
16:35<Snow-Man>Chutt: I'll be working on fixing it and working on an init script for sendmail queue's so it they can be easily restarted and all that.
16:35<michal>xine libs?
16:36<sfr>"hell no"
16:36<michal>or did you guys write your own player?
16:36<mechou>Chutt, don't you get tired of answer that question?
16:36<Chutt>mechou, it's rather insulting :)
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16:36<mechou>no kidding...
16:37<mechou>wasn't the answer to that in a mythtv faq someplace?....
16:37<michal>what's wrong with mplayer?
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16:38<d02s1>does mythtv have any plans on supporting macosx?
16:38<michal>i'd say lirc is a worse piece of crap.. more people have trouble with it than mplayer
16:38<sfr>will mythweb2 replace mythweb for future releases?
16:38<Chutt>d02s1, feel free to port it
16:38<Chutt>sfr, yes.
16:39<mechou>no, read the lirc docs. Works mighty fine, I and I've tried a number of remotes and receivers...
16:39<michal>when will the next mythtv release be? and when released is it just a dump of the current cvs??
16:39<Chutt>michal, i don't know????????
16:39<d02s1>Chutt: if I port it, which doesnt seem hard, will you guys add to it?
16:40<michal>mechou: the problem isn't as simple as that.. like someone on the mythtv list recently it just quits for me when something (irw) tries to connect to it.. regardless of driver or any other configuraton files :\
16:40<Chutt>d02s1, add to it?
16:40<Chutt>and no, it wouldn't be that difficult
16:40<Chutt>aside from v4l
16:40<sfr>michal universal answer: "when it's ready!"
16:40<d02s1>Chutt: support it and make progress to it
16:41<mechou>I'll wager not too many mythtv users have macs to test withm, so adding wont make much sense...
16:42<michal>Chutt: well then the other part of the question.. when you release do you release everything done in cvs up to that point? i ask because i want to try and get the dvb stuff to work and i don't want to start with a moving target. and i think 0.10 might be a bit too old for dvb stuff to actually work (i know it's very early days for sdvb support)
16:42<michal>only new macs could handle it anyway
16:42<d02s1>mechou: promote it on macosxhints.com or macslash.org and you will be over whelmed with all the mac users wanting it
16:42<michal>my g3 500mhz would have NO hope :P
16:42<mechou>which means mac users will be doing the adding ;)
16:43<d02s1>michal: u need a upgrade:) can I suggest the g5?
16:43<michal>when the g
16:43<michal>when the g5 is in a laptop i will be ready to upgrade :)
16:43<michal>powerbook g5 or bust for me
16:44<d02s1>michal: well the g3 + will be out by early febuary
16:44<d02s1>same design as a G5, even 64bit, but will be slower in terms of bus speed
16:44<d02s1>and cache
16:44<d02s1>but it will power the new lines of the ibook
16:45<d02s1>the ibook with the g3+ and the powerbooks with the g5 will be released around the same time
16:45<michal>screw ibook.. i need powerbook.. i want the superdrive, cardbus2, firewire2, widescreen, etc :)
16:45<d02s1>new g3+s will have altivec and the velocity engine.. with 64bit proccessing
16:46<michal>i expect powerbook g5 in the second half of next year
16:46<d02s1>michal: all the ibooks in the future will have firewire2, and superdrives
16:46<michal>that's speculation
16:46<d02s1>they will have the option for a superdrive
16:46<mechou>michal, who on list you referring to re lirc?
16:46<d02s1>michal: no early next year
16:47<michal>mechou: sec
16:47<michal>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/lirc,_what_a_nightmare_to_setup_P63098/
16:47<michal>I don't understand the solution he employed as I'm running debian and it's got a slightly different setup
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16:49<michal>i even tried removing my lircd.conf and running lircd manually with no driver
16:49<michal>it spawns an lirc process.. but as soon as you connect to it with irw it sigterms.. regardless of it it's configured or not
16:49<mechou>umm, michal, like a said, that guy didn't read the lirc docs....
16:50<mechou>"nobody covered how to do this", right, maybe he needed to try lirc.org
16:50<michal>which part of the lirc docs address that problem?
16:50<d02s1>do you guys think my dual xeon 2.4ghz with a 533 bus, 512mb 3200LL corsair twinx memory, 120gb IBM 7200 rpm 8mb cache hd, geforcefx 5600ultra 256mb, can power a bt878 cheap tv card into producing good results with no frame loss while recording and watching tv at the same time?
16:51<michal>definetly :)
16:51<Chutt>d02s1, that's about 4x more cpu than you need.
16:51<michal>but image quality will be dependent on reception more than anything I think
16:51<d02s1>Chutt: i was worried:)
16:51<sfr>d02sl should _just_ work
16:51<d02s1>enough memory?
16:51<d02s1>im worried 512 isnt enough
16:52<sfr>one has never enough
16:52<Chutt>again, that's more than enough
16:52<d02s1>this is dual channel memory, its kinda expensive because I want the best stuff
16:52<michal>mechou: well what would i have been doing wrong when i apparently had the entire thing correctly configured and it still died :\ what was a missing? i didn't find the answer in the docs
16:52<mechou>michal, like lirc --with-driver? forget exact syntax, and that was covered by lirc docs on lirc.org
16:52<d02s1>400mhz
16:52<d02s1>2,2,2,5 lantancy
16:53<michal>mechou: that didn't hel.. when i was using it with the correct driver and device..
16:53<Snow-Man>I think he answered your question, twice, already.
16:53<michal>was using i think the pixelpro or pixelport or whatever driver and the /dev/lirc/0 device
16:53<mechou>Snow-man, thank you.
16:54<michal>no serial module loaded.. just lirc_serial.. which detected the receiver (apparently)
16:54<tmk>so chutt
16:54<tmk>when do you want to talk
16:54<Chutt>not right now =)
16:54<tmk>me either
16:54<tmk>just planning
16:54<Chutt>i dunno
16:55<tmk>k i'll bug you later i guess
16:55<tmk>is this evening ok?
16:55<Snow-Man>tmk: Here, I'll break the mailing lists again so he's less busy, k? :)
16:55<Chutt>no
16:55<Chutt>mailing lists are low traffic today
16:55<Chutt>it's nice
16:55<Snow-Man>hehe.
16:56<michal>root 25151 0.0 0.0 1276 488 ? S 06:56 0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --driver=pixelview --device=/dev/lirc/0
16:57<michal>and that dies whenever irw connects to it
16:57<Chutt>why don't you email the lirc lists
16:57<michal>an strace doesn't make it any clearer to me why in this case :\
16:57<Chutt>an strace is useless for almost all debugging.
16:58<d02s1>guys, I havent been reading slashdot much, so I have a question, what is this SCO thing everyone is talking about? Every search I try to do on the topic confuses me more...
16:58<michal>it helps when you've got files in the wrong places and stuff like that.. but if it's some sort of program error.. then no.. it's useless
17:00<mechou>michal, since I'm in a magnamous mood, I'll give you a hint: "lircd --driver=?" . What does it say?
17:00<michal>pixelview is one of the enrties
17:01<michal>along with 10 others
17:01<michal>but i've done that before.. except i used --driver=blah
17:01<mechou>well, at least that part is ok.
17:02<Snow-Man>d02s1: Why are you asking in here?
17:02<michal>the device is ok too.. devfs is correctly set up for lirc..
17:02<michal>so rather than /dev/ttyS0 I'm using /dev/lirc.0
17:02<d02s1>Snow-Man: because im in here
17:03<michal> /dev/lirc/0: character special (61/0)
17:03<michal>that's as it should be
17:03<Snow-Man>d02s1: You could not be in here pretty quickly.
17:03<michal>and it only appears when the lirc_serial module loads
17:03<d02s1>Snow-Man: wow, grumpy?
17:03<Snow-Man>d02s1: wow, annoying?
17:03<d02s1>Snow-Man: melting?
17:03<mechou>do ls -al /dev/lirc*
17:03<d02s1>Snow-Man: only in your mind buddy
17:04<Snow-Man>d02s1: Somehow I doubt that.
17:04<michal>shit.. i have to leave for work in a few minutes.. need to take a shower..
17:04<d02s1>Snow-Man: why dont you just relax, have you eatten to much today?
17:05<Chutt>d02s1, he is quite right. no trolling in here.
17:05<d02s1>Chutt: im not trolling bud
17:05<Chutt>sure seemed to be
17:05<d02s1>Chutt: how so?
17:05<Chutt>asking completely offtopic, unrelated questions about stuff you read on /.?
17:06<d02s1>Chutt: im curious.. i have no idea what is going on with SCO
17:06<Chutt>then ask in the appropriate place.
17:06<d02s1>Chutt: where is an appropriate place? #sco?
17:06<Chutt>anywhere but here
17:06<d02s1>hah
17:07<d02s1>Chutt: sorry
17:07<d02s1>Chutt: you guys are linux guys, unix people, u probably know the answer so I asked... Sue me
17:15<michal>srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jul 29 06:56 /dev/lircd
17:15<michal>prw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jul 28 10:59 /dev/lircm
17:15<michal>and the one i pasted earlier
17:17<michal>crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 Jul 28 10:59 /dev/lirc/0
17:17<Chutt>email the lirc list.
17:18<michal>yeah.. i'll have to do it tonight :\ going off to work now.. thanks for the help
17:45<thor>Chutt, I seem to be getting forced through settings on every run of mythdvd ...
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17:45<thor>can I put an if then clause on a DVD related GetSetting ?
17:47<Chutt>hrm?
17:47<thor>the plugin init is always forcing me through the settings screen
17:47<thor>even when I'm running settings
17:47<tmk>i'm having a windows problem. can you help?
17:48* tmkis kidding
17:49<Chutt>thor, it should just be saving them..
17:49<Chutt>oh, doh
17:50<thor>yes, but every time I fire up mythfrontend dvd, it makes me do em again
17:51<Chutt>fixed
17:52<thor>thanks
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19:28<tmk>chutt, hows like an hour from now sound?
19:28<Chutt>t'morrow night would be better
19:28<tmk>k
19:28<tmk>time
19:28<Chutt>any time
19:28<tmk>k
19:28<Chutt>my wife's going to be out of town for the rest of the week starting tomorrow
19:28<Chutt>so i'll have plenty of time
19:29<tmk>heh
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20:07<Chutt>mdz, hey, ya here?
20:08<mdz>Chutt: yep
20:08<mdz>got back this afternoon from a mini-vacation
20:08<Chutt>i have need of a pushbutton on a settings page, you wouldn't happen to know if that's possible or not, would you?
20:08<Chutt>ah, cool
20:08<mdz>hmm
20:09<Chutt>i don't _need_ it, really, but it'd be kinda nice
20:09<mdz>I don't think you can push an arbitrary widget into the existing configurationdialogs
20:09<mdz>but if you want to lay out your own dialog, you can put whatever you want in it
20:09<Chutt>yeah, i couldn't figure out how =)
20:10<mdz>I guess it wouldn't be too hard to make it possible to push widgets in along with the settings for the simple dialogs
20:10<Chutt>ah well
20:10<mdz>kinda hackish though
20:10<Chutt>i can work around not being able to do that fairly easily
20:10<mdz>it would need to know which ones were settings and which weren't so it knew what to do
20:10<mdz>does the button need to be interspersed between the config elements, or could it be separate?
20:11<Chutt>i was wanting it to be with a checkbox on the final page
20:11<mdz>I think it would be useful to have a way to embed a frame or whatever with the config settings inside another dialog
20:11<Chutt>but, no biggy
20:11<Chutt>this is for the 're-scan for games' button in mythgame
20:11<Chutt>i'll just add a top-level config menu with a rescan button
20:12<mdz>ah, I see
20:12<mdz>when does it rescan right now?
20:12<Chutt>existing settings dialogs
20:12<Chutt>those are all straight qt
20:12<mdz>ah
20:12<Chutt>i'm converting them over to the built-in settings code is all
20:12<mdz>so it doesn't scan at startup, but only when you click the button?
20:13<mdz>(unlike mythmusic)
20:13<Chutt>it only scans at startup if there's nothing in the db
20:13<Chutt>which is like mythmusic now
20:13<mdz>oh, didn't realize mythmusic changed
20:16<Chutt>yeah, that was part of the 'speed everything up' stuff thor did
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20:30<mdz>Chutt: I did an experiment this weekend
20:30<mdz>before I left, I started everything fresh
20:30<mdz>since I had had to reboot the machine for other reasons anyway
20:31<Chutt>how long'd it run for?
20:31<mdz>started up the backend, but left the frontend at the main menu
20:31<mdz>i.e., not talking to the backend
20:31<mdz>and it ran perfectly the whole time I was gone
20:31<mdz>recorded about a dozen things
20:31<Chutt>heh
20:31<mdz>since we've been home, we've watched a few of the recordings
20:31<mdz>and just now the backend crashed
20:31<mdz>squashed any backend/frontend communication bugs recently?
20:32<Chutt>hrm
20:32<Chutt>just one wrt the client going away before the backend could respond
20:32<mdz>I remember some talk about that bug where the first two characters of a message were apparently garbage
20:32<Chutt>yup
20:33<Chutt>that still hasn't been dealt with
20:33<Snow-Man>I think I remember hitting that.
20:33<Chutt>mainly because no one that can reproduce it can code
20:33<mdz>does that log something with stock code? or did those guys add some debugging?
20:33<Chutt>mdz, it goes to the console
20:33<Chutt>i don't know if/where it logs it
20:33<mdz>Chutt: frontend or backend?
20:33<Chutt>backend
20:33<Snow-Man>Hey now, I can code, I just havn't got the time. :)
20:33<Chutt>sure ya can
20:33<mdz>pretty sure I haven't hit that, then
20:33<Snow-Man>And I havn't played with mythtv in quite a while.
20:34<Chutt>it's a smp issue
20:34<Chutt>something's getting corrupted somewhere
20:34<mdz>ah, smp
20:34<Chutt>valgrind swears the code's ok, though, so i dunno
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20:34<Chutt>mdz, can't i allocate a LabelSetting?
20:34<Chutt>complains about missing load/save functions
20:34* Snow-Maneyes Chutt.
20:36<Chutt>i just want to put up a message in a configuation wizard, so the framework's in place for when the code eventually gets written
20:36<Chutt>but i can't seem to do that =)
20:45<Chutt>ah, there it goes
20:49<mdz>Chutt: labelsetting is meant to be inherited into a setting to let it display itself as a label
20:49<mdz>the same way the others are used
20:49<Chutt>yeah yeah
20:49<Chutt>i'm not using things as they were meant to be used
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21:01<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: I put that your bugfix on my main frontend to see if I run into that freeze problem anymore. Thanks. I was planning on looking into that tonight.
21:02<Chutt>heh, easy fix, i think =)
21:03<Captain_Murdoch>I've been running into it quite much recently so it shouldn't take long to verify.
21:04<Captain_Murdoch>also, figured out the problem with the stripes on my pvr-250 card. I tried about 4-5 different firmware versions and they all had stripes. loaded up the ones off the original CD I got in the box and they went away.
21:05<Chutt>cool.
21:13<thor>rename a file in C++ ?
21:14* Captain_Murdochponders whether to let "Robert Schultz" on the -users list know about the WeekSlot recording type or just let him find out for himself after he's putzed around in the source for a while.
21:14<thor>can't believe I don't know how to do this ....
21:14<Chutt>captain_murdoch, i responded.
21:14<Chutt>thor, there's a function in qt for that
21:15<thor>in 3.0.x ?
21:15<thor>ok
21:15<thor>I'll keep looking
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21:15<Chutt>QDir::rename()
21:16<Captain_Murdoch>James Knight is talking about the same thing also in a previous message and his Stargate vs Monster Garage post.
21:16<thor>yup ... was poking around in QFile .... thanks
21:16<Chutt>thor, yeah, having it in qdir is weird
21:17<Captain_Murdoch>s/knight/white/
21:20<bline>what's wrong with rename(2)? heh
21:21<Chutt>i dunno, it's nice to use the Qt stuff when possible
21:21<Chutt>should aid porting, if someone ever wants to do that
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21:22<Captain_Murdoch>really you're just modifying a directory entry though, not a file, so in a way it makes sense.
21:22<bline>rename(2) is ACSI C and POSIX, but I guess it may not work on something like windows
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21:51<mdz>bline: rename(2) only works within a filesystem
21:51<mdz>not across filesystems
21:51<bline>QDir's rename works across?
21:51<mdz>I hope so, otherwise I see no point in its existence
21:52<bline>rename(2) has a reason for being like that, it's autonomous
21:55<Chutt>qt's rename is just a wrapper for rename(2)
21:56<Chutt>it just adds stuff like relative path resolution and crap
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21:57<Timon>thor, you here?
21:58<bline>yeah, I was just looking, it calles ::rename, but I have no idea what that means heh
21:58<thor>yup
21:59<Timon>I got a question for you, I'm getting relocation errors, what are those and how do I fix em?
21:59<Chutt>depends on what the error is
21:59<Timon>mythfrontend: relocation error: /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythmusic.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11LCDMenuItemC1Eb13CHECKED_STATE7QString
21:59<Timon>Its with the new LCD menuing code I'm working on
22:00<Chutt>the mythfrontend you're running doesn't have that symbol in it
22:00<mdz>that sounds pointless. I don't see why you should need to resolve relative pathnames in order to call rename(2)
22:00<Chutt>mdz, so you don't have to be in the cwd
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22:00<thor>Timon, you're asking for something that doesn't exist
22:00<Timon>The code is inside of mythmusic
22:01<Chutt>LCDMenuItem is in mythmusic?
22:01<thor>but mythmusic is a library now ....
22:01<Timon>No, its in libmyth. But I'm instansiating a LCDMenuItem in mythmusic
22:01<Chutt>the mythfrontend you're running isn't using a libmyth with that function in it.
22:02<Timon>Hmmm, thats odd. Ok
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22:13<mdz>Chutt: was just finally able to catch one of my crashes in the debugger
22:13<mdz>the one that happens during conflict resolution
22:13<mdz>0x409cf171 in strncpy () from /lib/libc.so.6
22:13<mdz>(gdb) bt
22:13<mdz>#0 0x409cf171 in strncpy () from /lib/libc.so.6
22:13<mdz>#1 0x4074bc2e in QString::sprintf () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
22:13<mdz>#2 0x40731ad3 in QTime::toString () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
22:13<mdz>#3 0x080f8ecc in ScheduledRecording::loadByProgram (this=0x40f6b4b0,
22:13<mdz> db=0x843e390, proginfo=0x40f17d78) at scheduledrecording.cpp:384
22:14<Chutt>can you send me the full thing?
22:14<Chutt>bt all full
22:14<mdz>yeah
22:14<Chutt>thread apply all bt full
22:14<Chutt>rather
22:14<mdz>looks like a qt bug though
22:14<Chutt>well, still want to see =)
22:15<mdz>hmm, thread apply all doesn't work for some reason
22:15<mdz>it does the first thread and quits
22:15<mdz>t a all bt works, but t a all bt full stops
22:16<mdz>so I'll send you bt full and t a all bt
22:16<Chutt>sure
22:19<mdz>sent to mythtv-dev
22:21<mdz>I would write it off as QTime sucking in Qt 3.0, but it doesn't happen every time
22:21<mdz>hmm, that's interesting
22:21<mdz>FillRecordLists is running at the same time
22:21<Chutt>yeah
22:22<mdz>er, there are two Scheduler::FillRecordLists running at the same time
22:22<mdz>that sounds like bad news
22:22<mdz>it doesn't lock
22:23<Chutt>it shouldn't have to.
22:23<thor>I know nothing about these code blocks, but I did discover than Qt container classes (QPtrList) can do weird things if you don't Mutex access to them ...
22:24<Chutt>mdz, is this 0.10?
22:24<mdz>Chutt: yep
22:24<mdz>hmm, those are two different Scheduler instances
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22:24<mdz>why does HandleGetPendingRecordings instantiate a new scheduler instead of using the existing one?
22:25<Chutt>so it doesn't have to lock and mess up the existing master scheduler
22:25<Chutt>and they generate slightly different information
22:25<bbeattie>Chutt: I'm no mysql guru.. where is the field that needs to be changed for channel frequencies?>
22:26<Chutt>freqid
22:26<mdz>but they are using separate database connections, right?
22:26<mdz>one is using the default, the other "SUBDB"
22:26<Chutt>mdz, they should be, yes
22:26<bbeattie>nevermind
22:26<bbeattie>found it.. had to browse in phpmyadmin.. not just lookat tables..
22:26<Chutt>that may have been part of the db cleanup i did
22:27<Chutt>there were some issues with the scheduled recording stuff
22:27<mdz>hmm?
22:28<Chutt>and programinfo
22:28<Chutt>that were using the default connection and shouldn't have been
22:28<Chutt>but...
22:28<Chutt>i dunno
22:28<Chutt>you should try cvs :p
22:29<mdz>ah, in CVS, HandleGetPendingRecordings doesn't use the default db connection
22:29<mdz>anymore
22:29<Chutt>it's really quite a bit better than 0.10
22:29<Chutt>lotsa bugs fixed
22:30<Chutt>just a few new features
22:30<mdz>sounds like a good time for a release :-)
22:30* paulproteuswonders if there's a CVS deb, or if plans exist
22:30<Chutt>waiting on mythdvd/mythweb2
22:30<Chutt>no debs of cvs.
22:30<Chutt>no binaries of cvs
22:30<paulproteus>:)
22:30* paulproteusnods, understanding the general fear of CVS binaries
22:30<Chutt>only thing upstable right now is possibly mythgame
22:30<Chutt>unstable
22:31<thor>mythdvd is a bit creaky =)
22:31<Chutt>heh
22:31<Chutt>you're working on it, though =)
22:31<thor>yup
22:31<thor>which reminds me
22:31<moegreen>mythweather sucks :) Just kidding - it rul5z.
22:31<Chutt>oh, there's the hang in mythweather
22:31<Chutt>that i can't reproduce =)
22:31<thor>anyone seen vektor613 ?
22:31<moegreen>neither can I
22:32<bbeattie>Chutt: is it safe to delete channels that I don't get in that same area via phpmyadmin?
22:32<radsaq>Chutt, release 0.11!
22:33<mdz>Chutt: what's the deal with mythweb2? I saw someone was posting URLs to tarballs instead of patches. is it completely redone or something?
22:33<Chutt>pretty much
22:33<Timon>cd ..
22:33<Timon>ack
22:33<Chutt>bbeattie, 'slong as you comment them out of the xmltv config file, yeah
22:33<mdz>so is mythweb in CVS broken with CVS mythtv?
22:35<Chutt>no
22:35<Chutt>mythweb's good for the most part
22:35<mdz>bah, no need to wait for the new one then :-)
22:35<Chutt>mythweb2's just a rewrite of it
22:39<radsaq>mythweb needs arrows for shows that extend outside of the viewed range
22:41<Timon>thor: In file included from dvdripbox.h:23,
22:41<Timon> from dvdripbox.cpp:19:
22:41<Timon>dvdinfo.h:16:32: dvdread/dvd_reader.h: No such file or directory
22:41<Timon>dvdinfo.h:17:30: dvdread/ifo_read.h: No such file or directory
22:41<Chutt>you have to install things.
22:42<Timon>Oh :-)
22:42<radsaq>install libdvdread?
22:42<Timon>I should read the distructions
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22:43<thor>yeah .. libdvdread ...
22:43* blinedecides to try out mythdvd
22:44* thorwaits for everyone to complain, "Hey, I can't transcode anything!"
22:44<bline>I don't really care about that :)
22:45<thor>then you'll find it useful
22:45<thor>=)
22:45<bbeattie>Chutt: don't mean to be bothersome, but is .11 being released soon? and if so, would you want the patch in a few minutes or after .11 release?
22:45<Timon>Ok, I just removed the myth* libs, did a make distclean in mythtv, recompiled, same in mythmusic and I still get the relocation error
22:46<paulproteus>Er, did you 'make uninstall' first?
22:46<paulproteus>(Myth has an 'uninstall' target, right?)
22:46<Chutt>no, it's not being released soon.
22:46<Chutt>i just said that a few minutes ago.
22:46<Timon>I didn't make uninstall.
22:46<Chutt>timon, you have an old libmyth sitting somewhere, then.
22:46<Timon>Hmm, ok
22:46<radsaq>Chutt, release early, release often! ;^D
22:47<Chutt>no
22:50<bbeattie>radsaq: use cvs.
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22:59<bline>thor: you planning on having mtd write a pidfile?
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23:01<thor>bline, I wasn't , should I ?
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23:05<bline>wouldn't be a bad idea, makes it easier for init type code to figure out the status, mythback does
23:05<Chutt>yup
23:05<bline>mythbackend
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23:06<Chutt>heh
23:06<Chutt>i got rid of 1758 lines of code today.
23:06* paulproteusblinks
23:06<bline>gotta love those kind of changes
23:07<thor>ah
23:07<just1nux>hey chutt, the autoexpire thing just deleted the program i was watching while i was watching it, mythfrontend died ofcourse. Has this been fixed? It was supposed to delete it, but shouldnt it wait for me to finish viewing it?
23:07<Chutt>hah
23:08<Chutt>yeah, it should
23:08<Chutt>captain_murdoch, thoughts? =)
23:08<mikegrb>heh
23:08<just1nux>it may have died at the moment playback ended, it was very close to the end at the time it happened.
23:09<just1nux>when i restarted the frontend it was gone and a new one was being recorded.
23:09<Chutt>yeah
23:09<Chutt>it may not have actually been deleted until it finished, but the db entry getting removed would've messed it up
23:10<just1nux>ah
23:10<bline>hmm, libdvdplay looks interesting, however undocumented
23:10<Chutt>that's the dvdnav lib, right?
23:11<bline>libdvdnav is another lib
23:11<just1nux>is that for displaying the dvd menus?
23:11<bline>libdvdplay is an attempt to make a library from ogle dvd navigation code so that a simple API provides access to both DVD Video data and DVD information to a reader app
23:11<bline>lication.
23:13<bline>looks like something you can use to make your own ogle type player
23:13<just1nux>so it like parses the IFO files and returns the data?
23:13* blinereads headers
23:13<just1nux>oh.
23:15<bline>looks very high level, these are the functions in dvdplay.h: dvdplay_open, dvdplay_close, dvdplay_error, dvdplay_start, dvdplay_reset
23:16<thor>bline, dvdfilesize() ?
23:16<thor>that reports the title size, not the friggin VOB size ?
23:20<bline>http://developers.videolan.org/pub/videolan/libdvdplay/ no docs though
23:21<Chutt>heh
23:21<bline>I see no direct acess to the VOB file
23:25<just1nux>"ibdvdread provides a simple foundation for reading DVD video disks. It provides the functionality that is required to access many DVDs. It parses IFO files, reads NAV-blocks, and performs CSS authentication and descrambling."
23:26<Chutt>thor's using libdvdread for the perfect rip stuff
23:26<just1nux>ah
23:26<thor>which works very well
23:26<thor>but could have a simpler layer on top
23:27<just1nux>cool
23:31<Chutt>just1nux, have you updated your osd theme at all?
23:31<just1nux>nope
23:31<Chutt>noticed that the channel numbers don't show up when you type em in at all..
23:32<just1nux>ah, that would be because im not using the actual channel number thing since it appeared behind the other OSD element, so i just commented it out
23:33<Chutt>ah
23:35<just1nux>you right, i never noticed that, i dont type in channels much, cuz i dont watch live tv much. Probably could find somewhere to put it, but it doesnt go away after you type it, so its kinda repetative then
23:36<just1nux>the way im using the channel number thing also causes a problem when you switch inputs, #channum is visible in the osd.
23:37<Chutt>right
23:37<Chutt>it's really not meant to be there =)
23:38<just1nux>i know... but it was the only way to get the channel with anything behind it.
23:39<paulproteus>Quick question: How (can?) does one change the action keys in MythMusic, and/or see a list of them?
23:41<Chutt>thor, hey, ever see 2 identical titles listed?
23:41<Chutt>paulproteus, i don't believe anyone's ever compiled a list of them
23:42<Chutt>they're in the source, though
23:43<bline>playbackbox.cpp iirc
23:43<Chutt>yup
23:43<just1nux>chutt, are you talking about titles on a dvd?
23:44<Chutt>yeah
23:44<just1nux>fullscreen vs widescreen?
23:44<Chutt>nope, this is only widescreen
23:44<paulproteus>Kay, cool. Can they be changed outside the source?
23:44<Chutt>paulproteus, nope
23:44<just1nux>if it an infinifilm dvd?
23:45<Chutt>LOTR extended ed, disk 1
23:45<bline>wasn't someone working on keybinding settings?
23:45<Chutt>thor, also, filename is FELLOWSHIP_EXT_D1_1of
23:45<Chutt>obviously not right =)
23:46<just1nux>hmm ive only seen duplicate titles when there was another version because they had overlayed other video on parts of it for infinifilm or something like that. odd.
23:50<Chutt>ag, i see
23:50<Chutt>err, ah
23:50<Chutt>it'll rename it once it's done
23:52<Chutt>heh, know what, i bet the two identical titles are just the dd/dts auto-select thingies
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