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00:06<hadees>just my curiosity but what is the reason for this problem
00:06<hadees>NOTE for Red Hat 8 users: You must manually modify a Makefile
00:06<hadees>within the themes directory, otherwise your on screen display (OSD) will be
00:06<hadees>"generic" rather than themed.
00:06<hadees>The solution is to edit the Makefile within
00:06<hadees>the themes directory and comment out (using a # symbol before each line)
00:06<hadees>every line that starts with the word "strip". Make sure you switch back to
00:06<hadees>the MythTV build directory before executing the next step.
00:06<hadees>or is the problem no one knows?
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00:16<mikegrb>hadees: I have RH 8 and didn't do that without problems but your mileage may very
00:16<mikegrb>just1nux: you around?
00:17<hadees>i have redhat 9, i was just wondering if the problem carried over and what exactly the problem was
00:17<mikegrb>I
00:17<mikegrb>er
00:18<mikegrb>I'm really not sure but it seemed like there were problems with it trying to strip the non executable files for the themes or some such
00:19<mikegrb>on second thought I think I did have a problem
00:19<mikegrb>I solved but cp -Ring the themes dir from the src to the install location
00:20<mikegrb>s/but/by/
00:20<hadees>what do you mean by trying to strip the non executable files?
00:20<mikegrb>striping an executable removes symbol information, not necessary unless debuging and makes them smaller
00:21<hadees>i wonder why that problem occurs on only redhat
00:21<Chutt>mikegrb, could you try something for me to see if i can fix that?
00:21<mikegrb>of course Chutt
00:22<Chutt>in themes/themes.pro
00:22<Chutt>add QMAKE_STRIP to the top
00:22<Chutt>err
00:22<Chutt>QMAKE_STRIP = echo
00:22<Chutt>then run 'qmake' in that directory and then 'make install' to see if it installs properly
00:22<mikegrb>ahh I see where you are going :-)
00:22<just1nux>mikegrb: im here
00:23<hadees>Chutt: should i follow the redhat 8 instructions for that problem with redhat 9?
00:23<Chutt>hadees, yes
00:23<hadees>thx
00:23<Chutt>or, you can do what i just suggested to mikegrb and see if that works
00:23<mikegrb>just1nux: was just wondering if the alignment of the channel logo in the OSD was meant to be how it is, it was a little high and to the left of the backround image
00:23<mikegrb>just1nux: I tweaked my osd.xml to make it line up and was curious if you wanted a patch?
00:24<just1nux>mikegrb: yes is is meant to be there as the channel number and station id line up next to it.
00:24<mikegrb>Chutt: I guess I should mv my installed themes directory too to be sure, or I guess log output to a file
00:25<mikegrb>just1nux: heh yes I shifted those about 4 or 5 pixels to the right as well to keep it all lined up
00:25<mikegrb>just1nux: It's just that I have obsessive compulsive disorder and it kinda iritated me
00:25<mikegrb>heh
00:26<Chutt>i think i fixed the crappy re-buffering after a channel change
00:26<mikegrb>I made it about a week or so and then I couldn't stand it <g>
00:26<just1nux>originally i had it where you moved it to, which is why it lines up there, but i decided i perefered it offset, also leave more room for station ids
00:26<Chutt>just1nux, you going to put a background for dialogs in the osd theme?
00:27<just1nux>which dialogs?
00:27<Chutt>like when it asks you if you want to save position on exit
00:27<Chutt>or the edit dialogs
00:27<just1nux>oh yeah, that one. Is that possible?
00:28<Chutt>yup
00:28<Chutt>you can also have some other indicator for the current selection, like an arrow to the left or a big overlay if you want..
00:29<just1nux>oh, i didnt know that. just assumed it looked clunky cuz thats all you could do with it
00:29<Chutt>heh, yeah, that _was_ all you could do with it when the existing osd themes were made
00:29<mikegrb>Chutt: that change to themes.pro fixes the problems with RH8/9 on make install
00:30<hadees>nice i'll do that to mine right now
00:30<Chutt>great
00:30<Chutt>i already committed that to cvs =)
00:31<fulbert>hey chutt, I got a quick one for you. I split front and back, now the frontend seems to lock once in a while.
00:31<fulbert>I get this from strace on the frontend:
00:31<mikegrb>actually I tried it again with it null and that works too with out all the "echo 'somefile'\nsomefile" lines
00:31<fulbert>nanosleep({0, 50000}, NULL) = 0
00:31<fulbert>select(12, [11], NULL, NULL, {0, 5000}) = 0 (Timeout)
00:31<fulbert>ioctl(11, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
00:31<fulbert>ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [1]) = 0
00:31<Chutt>strace is useless.
00:31<Chutt>use gdb.
00:35<fulbert>#0 0xffffe002 in ?? ()
00:35<fulbert>#1 0x4070ce2c in QSocket::waitForMore(int, bool*) const ()
00:35<fulbert> from /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
00:35<fulbert>#2 0x4070ce7e in QSocket::waitForMore(int) const ()
00:35<fulbert> from /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
00:35<fulbert>??
00:36<fulbert>it locks when I choose any of the items under the main TV menu, I can use mythweather and mythvideo.
00:36<fulbert>if I run the scheduler, I get the top few lines of text, and it hangs before i see the main body of the listings.
00:38<Chutt>you have to rebuild for debugging.
00:39<fulbert>ah, ok.
00:39* fulbertheads off to read more.
00:39<Chutt>but, looks like something's not right in talking to the backend.
01:01<fulbert>ok, i've compiled with debuggig now and now I am running trough gdb.
01:01<fulbert>when it hangs, I get this from the backtrace.
01:02<fulbert>#24 0x0806f4f1 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffff904) at main.cpp:481
01:02<fulbert>#25 0x420156a4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
01:09<fulbert>as you may guess, i'm not real sure what i should be doing. feel free to wack me with the clue bat.
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01:24<paulproteus>fulbert: You need to report more of the backtrace.
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01:29<tdb30_>Okay... how do I have it not show the preview video in the epg
01:34<just1nux>setup > TV Settings > General > checkbox near bottom
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01:44<krotz>someone here that has a nvidia card and has tv-in)working)?
01:44<tdb30_>humm. no effect. I still see a preview video
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01:58<bbeattie>Chutt: The channel is being set correct when mythbackend is started. However, once I start the mythfrontend it correct displays the startup channel, but any attempts to change channel after that report a bad file descriptor on the VIDIOCSFREQ FD. (usingv4l2 is set to false just as a note) Any ideas why this may be failing after the first set works?
01:59<Chutt>you probably have something not quite right in your hdtvrecorder.cpp file
02:00<bbeattie>Chutt: something that is causing myth to close the fd?
02:00<Chutt>which fd?
02:01<Chutt>you have to give the channel object a fd to use to change channels with
02:01<Chutt>you're probably not doing that..
02:01<bbeattie>if (ioctl(videofd, VIDIOCSFREQ, &frequency) == -1)
02:01<bbeattie>in channel is the ioctl set that is failing
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02:04<mechou>excuse me for butting in, but hdtvrecorder.cpp? Did I miss something? Is there actuall a working linux device driver that allows recording of hdtv?
02:04<Chutt>not quite yet
02:04<bbeattie>Pre orders start Monday.
02:05<mechou>Is there someplace where I can learn more about this exciting development? i.e. what hardware, requirements, etc.?
02:05<bbeattie>Chutt: I have to pay $145 to keep my prototype card. :-/ Reg 189.89.
02:06<Chutt>heh, sucks
02:06<mechou>so does thing only work for OTA?
02:07<bbeattie>Me for right now, the creator hasn't released specs to the world. Basically a 1.4Ghz system if you have an nvidia 440mx chipset or later (Using hardware mpeg 2 decoding) or 2.2 ghz otherwise. For just saving streams you can do it on a P2 333 and a 7200 rpm IDE disk
02:07<bbeattie>yes, OTA only right now
02:08<bbeattie>it has an NTSC and ATSC tuner (2 inputs)
02:08<mechou>where do I sign up Monday?
02:08<bbeattie>plus a cute Tux logo on the card.
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02:08<bbeattie>pchdtv.com
02:08<bbeattie>the site was suppost to be up now, but it appears it will be the weekend or monday.
02:09<bbeattie>The card is Linux only support (For now)
02:09<mechou>SD encoder portion, it there adequate v4l(1/2) for it, so that it can also work in myth?
02:10<bbeattie>If you're going to Linux world, I'll have a card on hand to show off for kicks, but I won't be able to sell anything.. Could demo it if there is an extra system and the Masconi center can get an ATSC signal in it.
02:10<mechou>hmm, I live in San Jose. When is LW?
02:11<bbeattie>I've been after the card creator to get the patches sent in. It uses the bttvp kernel module (patched of course)
02:11<bbeattie>Next tues to thurs
02:11<mechou>hmm, do I need to "register" top go to LW, or is it free for all?
02:12<bbeattie>He tested 4 cards in 1 system.. Pretty sweet.
02:12<bbeattie>Register early and it's free
02:13<hadees>I got this error
02:13<hadees>./setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmyth-0.10.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
02:13<mechou>bbeattie, do you know if tonight still consdered "early" for LW
02:14<bbeattie>as for mythtv support, I'm not good at all at writing for hardware, but current it loads the startup channel set, and you can pause live TV. I have yet to test recording, as I want to get channel changing fixed first.
02:14<hadees>but it is here /usr/local/lib/libmyth-0.10.so.0
02:14<bbeattie>I think before monday or tuesday is early
02:15<mechou>ok, how do I find you at LW? Which booth?
02:16<bbeattie>I'll be around the LSB/FSG booth (Linux Standard Base/Free Standards Group) each day from 4-5, plus around the show floor all day.
02:16<mechou>also, I doubt if mosconi can get an ATSC signal....
02:16<bbeattie>So do I
02:17<mechou>it's virtually in a basement....
02:17<bbeattie>Right, it's entirely underground.
02:18<mechou>unless they got an antenna attached elsewhere....
02:18<mechou>which I'm sure you need to pre-arrange...
02:18<bbeattie>I have never seen a TV jack, but you do get cell service inside.
02:20<mechou>so how will I know you when I see you ;)?
02:20<bbeattie>The chances of showing off anything but that "This is the card" is pretty much impossible as I see things right now. ... My only involvement in this was testing the card on debian and trying to add support to mythtv for the card. I don't know if I'd even be able to handle transactions. He will be doing it via a visa/online setup from what I know.
02:21<bbeattie>If you come by the FSG/LSB booth, look for the youngest person in the booth and ask about the card. You'll ask the right person.
02:22<hadees>so how big are the hdtv files usally?
02:22<bbeattie>If you're not planning on going to the show though, it may be a bit of a trip just to see the card.
02:22<bbeattie>the DTV standard is 40Mb/s
02:23<mechou>sure enough....
02:23<bbeattie>5MB/s or 18GB per hour. Once you strip off extra sub channels you can get it down to 19.6mb/s max, and as low as 4mb/s. If you reencode into another resolution, such as 1024x576, it will be about 1.4 GB/hr
02:25<mechou>Damn, time to buy another hard disk too....
02:25<bbeattie>(1.4 using divx, ogg for sound, and you also won't be able to use the nvidia mpeg decoder at that point) Viewing that type of file takes a 1600mhz system.
02:26<mechou>what's the lowliest CPU you tested on that can play w/o dropping frames?
02:26<krotz>i installed mythtv.. and i have no command such as mythtv, shouldnt i have one?
02:26<bbeattie>Chutt: any tips on what may be the best way to debug how/when the FD is being closed? I don't know if it is being closed, as after you try and fail to use the channel it re-syncs into the current channel again.
02:27<mechou>krotz, please read the docs....
02:28<bbeattie>You almost always will drop frames at some point because of system IO going on. But for 1 or near 0 frame drop a p2.2 The nvidia hardware drops frames at times, about 5% actually.
02:29<mechou>crap...you're sure nvidia mpeg decoder can't be utilized?
02:29<bbeattie>I moved my root FS to another disk so reading and writing for the streams has it's own ide channel and disk. That helped a little for that last few %
02:29<mechou>yeah, makes sense...
02:30<bbeattie>It can, but from my testing I prefer not using it (it won't be supported in mythtv atleast for a bit as onscrean menu's won't be drawn if it is used)
02:30<krotz>mechou: on the site?
02:31<krotz>well i gotta get some rest, need to fix this and my tv-in prob tomorrow.
02:31<mechou>krotz, sure eno'
02:32<krotz>k
02:32<krotz>later
02:32<mechou>but using nvidia mpeg decode does help offload cpu, maybe? Hopefully enough to make a differnce?
02:32<bbeattie>If you ever have speed issues, reencoding at a lower res helps out greatly. There are still going to be some improvements needed because xine that is the current choice for watching HDTV is having buffer problems on debian and getting horribly stuttering video on. It's a xine bug actually, due to the buffer not handling the massive data stream well.
02:33<mechou>sheesh, forgot about that....
02:33<bbeattie>It helps out about 30%-70% depending on which hdtv stream you are viewing
02:34<bbeattie>the odd thing is that mythtv is only using about 60% CPU to decode what takes xine 90% to decode. I'm not sure why though yet.
02:35<mechou>I think I'm on the hairy edge with XP2000+
02:35<bbeattie>on an amd2600
02:35<bbeattie>do you have an hdtv tv?
02:35<mechou>well, forget about that....
02:36<bbeattie>reencode the HDTV signal into your max resolution and you'll be fine.
02:36<mechou>yeah, a low(er) end samsung
02:37<hadees>wow, i might just get that gateway hdtv, this sounds cool
02:38<bbeattie>I was watching a travel show of images from around the world (HD test on a PBS station) It was incredible to say the least. The color, clarity, sharpness. It makes you realize what you have been missing and why TV got boring.
02:39<mechou>it sounds like just the right excuse to upgrade a cpu ;-)
02:39<bbeattie>.. it's late though so I need to sleep tonight.
02:39<bbeattie>Disk is the bigger issue.
02:40<hadees>so how big a cpu do you need for hdtv?
02:40<bbeattie>When you realize 360GB limits you so much..
02:41<mechou>yeah, when Sony metreon opened up in SF 4-5(?) years ago they had HDTV in there. They tuned in to PBS travel shows too. Just amazing back then befor HDTV got Stateside...
02:42<bbeattie>Need? well, you could probably pull HDTV off with a 1.2ghz and nvidia card. To be safe a p4 2.4 or amd 2400. I need to get myth working better with the card and then I'll give you some better numbers on things. I'm still hoping it's around an 1800 to do well.
02:43<hadees>so do you think you will be able to have a two card system?
02:44<bbeattie>The cool thing about HDTV, is you could just drop several disks and several HDTV cards into a p2 system and then your frontend box can be the powerhouse... :-) That's a great choice I think personally.
02:44<bbeattie>4 cards in 1 system have been tested
02:44<bbeattie>I'd recommend software raid as it's 5MB/s for each stream.
02:45<hadees>recording all at the same time?
02:45<bbeattie>And you'll want about 64M RAM per card. Yes, recoring all at once.
02:45<hadees>wow
02:45<mechou>recording HDTV doesn't take much cpu.
02:45<bbeattie>The kernel will buffer so much and then dump the stream to disk. The test was done with 1 IDE harddrive and it worked, but I don't recommend it
02:46<mechou>i's almost like ftp.
02:46<bbeattie>recording HDTV is all bus
02:46<mechou>yup...
02:46<bbeattie>It's basically a memcopy from a device to disk.
02:46<hadees>oh so was it encoding the hdtv or just leaving it raw
02:46<bbeattie>HDTV is mpeg2 (transport stream)
02:47<hadees>didn't know that, now i feel stuiped
02:47<mechou>think of it as copying a mpeg2 file off the network...
02:47<bbeattie>Only if you want to re-encode to a smaller resolution and/or drop extra/pointless subchannels will require any CPU really.
02:47<mechou>and recoding is a PITA, takes too long for me....
02:48<hadees>now I need an inexpensive HDTV
02:48<bbeattie>One very cool thing about HDTV is you can have several channels embedded into the channel. both local PBS stations have 2 entirely different program schedules on their channels.
02:48<bbeattie>I know someone who's going to sell his on e-bay for $1k... (Have to mention this just to be a good friend)
02:49<mechou>what kind of HDTV?
02:49<bbeattie>not sure, I'll get the info and mention it tomorrow if you'd like.
02:49<hadees>why arn't the prices for these things droping yet, aren't we getting close to when we will only see HDTV streams?
02:49<bbeattie>He bought a new one (Bigger) The one he is selling I think is 35" or 40"
02:50<mechou>I still think a projector is the way to go. Portable, vaible size image, etc....
02:50<mechou>s/vaiable/variable
02:51<bbeattie>9/11 OTA have their DTV stations active, 20% of all programs are HD, the other 80% are 480I signals.
02:51<bbeattie>I bought a projector, which is why I'm re-encoding down to 1024x576.. There are new DLP projectors that do 1280x720 now.
02:52<mechou>so you're re-encoding? How long does it take roughly to re-encode 1 hr worth of show?
02:53<bbeattie>about 40 minutes per hour
02:53<mechou>what program to re-encode?
02:53<bbeattie>It's not bad, plus you can still watch live HDTV, using the ring buffer mencoder
02:53<bbeattie>ringbuffer. I use mencoder
02:54<bbeattie>divx, ogg, 1024x576
02:54<bbeattie>de-interlacing and some image improvements.
02:55<mechou>that brings up another point, are the cutlists honored whe you re-ecode (so you don't need commercials)?
02:55<bbeattie>I havn't tested that yet.
02:56<mechou>I wonder if you save any transcoding time that way. Kind of doubt it....
02:56<bbeattie>If it works for the mpeg2 NTSC encoder cards, it can with this card. The only problem is modifying myth to know about subchannels, as you can record several shows at once if they are on the same channel. (So with 4 cards, you could get 8 or more shows at once).
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02:59<mechou>so this card you have, is it a "prototype", or it's in production already? (I know they aren't _selling_ it yet).
03:05<bbeattie>Mine is prototype card #4/5. 300 cards are at a home 1 mile away from me. The card I will being is the production card.
03:06<bbeattie>The first to order will get the 300 cards, at that point the moneyu for the 300 cards I am guessing will be used to make more cards.
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03:08<bbeattie>.. The person doing this has spent over a full year doing this and nothing else
03:09<bbeattie>And getting the driver works just requires one make, no chances made to anything for debian redhat 72 and 90 (The patched bttvp module) and that's it. In future kernals, t
03:09<bbeattie>in future kernels it will just require the modprobe
03:10<mechou>cool...
03:11<bbeattie>have a good night *waves*
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06:42<choenig>working on my mmusic patch I came to the question why would one select 'Blank' _and_ some other visualizations in mmusic?
06:44<choenig>would it be ok to only allow blank _or_ a list of random and the actual vis's ?
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12:13<hadees>I am trying to setup mythtv but I get this error
12:13<hadees>./setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmyth-0.10.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
12:13<hadees>but the lib is in /home/mythtv/mythtv/libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.10.so.0
12:16<Chutt>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2
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12:20<hadees>ah thanks
12:22<bline>Chutt the FAQ-O-Matic ;)
12:22<Chutt>most stuff's answered in there
12:22<hadees>i read that part just forgot redhat has that wierd error
12:23<Chutt>it's all distributions
12:23<Chutt>or most, at least
12:23<hadees>really? seems wierd that you have to run that over and over again
12:23<Chutt>you generally have to add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf whenever you're compiling things for the first time
12:23<Chutt>you only have to do it once.
12:24<hadees>"Red Hat will also frequently "forget" about the path" - from the faq
12:24<hadees>i ran it a couple times during the install
12:24<hadees>i ran it again and that is what fixed it
12:25<Chutt>ldconfig gets run every time when you install.
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12:47<bbeattie>Is there a way to cause mythtv to go into live tv mode, or force channel changes from command line? (I'm remote so I can't get the gui back to my system)
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13:15<mikegrb>Chutt: you around?
13:15<Chutt>yup
13:16<mikegrb>all that is used to id a recorded program is chanid start and end time right?
13:16<Chutt>yup
13:17<mikegrb>for some movies I have recorded from tv I tried moving title -> subtitle and then entering "Movies" for the title so they show up together, now mythweb shows bad entries :-/
13:18<Chutt>munge up the starttime?
13:18<mikegrb>I used phpmyadmin rather then editing the database manually and everything looks right so I'm confused
13:18<mikegrb>you know let me double check that
13:18<mikegrb>I't might have foobared it
13:19<mikegrb>I hope to write a patch for this functionality, not sure about the ui, perhaps tying it to a specific recording profile
13:22<mikegrb>heh thanks chutt it seems phpmyadmin couldn't leave them alone
13:23<mikegrb>oic, it had the funcion now selected in the dropdown because of the field type, I didn't notice it before
13:32<hadees>this might me intresting for mythtv
13:32<hadees>http://www.kom.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de/acmmm99/ep/merialdo/
13:33<hadees>it is a paper talking about cutting news programs into stories so you can make custom news shows for yourself
13:49<bbeattie>Chutt: there is no way to cause mythtv to go into live tv mode, and/or cause it to change a channel via command line? I am remote and want to try something.
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13:49<Chutt>bbeattie, nope
13:50<Chutt>you can run 'mythtv' to just go straight to tv mode, though
14:07<hadees>Chutt: i have a question for you, do you just develop on your live machine or do you have a seprate machine for development?
14:08<Chutt>i have 2 live machines which i develop on
14:18<Chutt>moegreen, i _finally_ updated some of the OSD screenshots =)
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14:58<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt, did anyone reply saying they tested that QT::UTC fix I posted? I didn't want to apply it until someone tested it, but guess they can test now. :)
14:59<Chutt>no one replied, so i said screw em
14:59<Chutt>figured you were holding off on that, but whatever =)
14:59<Captain_Murdoch_>I thought about that, but didn't get in the mood to yet.
15:00<Captain_Murdoch_>no big deal. means I don't have to take those lines out of my diffs before applying to cvs now. :)
15:02<sfr>Captain_Murdock i tested it and it worked. just forgot to report back.
15:03<sfr>Captain_Murdoch see above :)
15:03<Chutt>i should take better screenshots of PiP mode
15:09<Captain_Murdoch_>sfr, thanks.
15:09<Captain_Murdoch_>wasn't sure if I had the offset negative or not.
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16:11<hadees>since mythtv now has everything displayed in one window would it be possible to have an overlay that would be ontop of everything, for example a news ticker
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17:29<jkolb>Chutt: Does it look like anything is still going to happen with zap2it?
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18:10<mechou>hey, bbeattie, you there?
18:11* paulproteuslooks for a stick with which to poke bbeattie
18:11* paulproteushas only clothes hangers
18:11<mechou>clothes hangers work well....
18:11<paulproteus>It's plastic.
18:11<paulproteus>It's kinda silly to poke someone with a plastic hanger.
18:12<paulproteus>It's on my floor, too, and I don't want to reach down that far.
18:12<paulproteus>And I don't make excuses.
18:13* paulproteuslooks for his shifty pair of eyes
18:14<mechou>hmm, guess bbeattie either isn't around or isn't paying attention....
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18:55<paulproteus>Is there a way to select a song by typing some part (or all) of its name?
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19:02<jhurliman>how does mythbackend keep track of what tuners are in use, through the database or internal variables?
19:02<jhurliman>I'm want to add a MythPassthrough module that launches xawtv for playing games or other real-time things, but the recording needs to be disabled temporarily
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20:21<Timon>Thor, you alive?
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20:22<merf>blast!
20:22<merf>myth keeps freezing
20:23<Chutt>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-18.html#ss18.9
20:24<merf>i'd rather just bitch and whine, if that's ok
20:29<merf>ah. perhaps it's freezing because my disk is full.
20:29<merf>christ.. does one hour of video usually take 6gb?
20:29<Timon>no
20:30<Timon>But it really depends on the recording settings you have
20:30<Timon>Codec, bitrate, etc
20:30<merf>i wonder if the debian packages come with uber-quality setup by default or summat
20:30<Timon>Maybe you should read the docs?
20:31<merf>probably.
20:33<tmk>wow 6gb?
20:33<merf>the very same
20:33<tmk>using the 'no compression' option are we
20:34<merf>who knows
20:34<tmk>btw, nice response there chutt
20:34<tmk>is that automated?
20:35<BoyEnjinir>Try switch to MPG4 w/ default settings. I just did that. Went from 3-5G/hr to ~1G/hr. Still very good quality...
20:35<merf>tmk: let's see
20:35<merf>myth keeps freezing
20:36<merf>.. apparently not
20:36<merf>BoyEnjinir: i really need a new disk.. i've only got 8gb :D
20:36<merf>maybe i'll make myth start recording onto the 120gb on this computer
20:36<BoyEnjinir>Yeah. New HD would be good. Best Buy + Circ City have good deals right now..
20:36<merf>i'm broke :(
20:37<BoyEnjinir>Bummer....
20:37<Timon>Get a credit card. . .
20:38<merf>hah
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21:00<bbeattie>Chutt: The videofd when mythbackend starts is 13 and things work correctly. When I go to change a channel in the frontend, the videofd is 23 and that is why it can not set the frequency.
21:01<Chutt>bbeattie, you're doing something wrong in your hdtvrecorder.cpp, then.
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21:09<bbeattie>Chutt: in the mpegrecorder.cpp you open the same device twice, which I am unable to do and so I just set the readfd to what I opened for the chanfd. Is the mpeg2 card special in some way because you can open the device twice?
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21:18<bbeattie>Chutt: I think I'm on track, it changed the channels, but the video feed just stopped. :-/
21:33<bbeattie>Chutt: works!!! (except for what appears to be a problem with the ring buffer.. It's mixing mpeg2 streams between channels once I change it. (Kinda odd seing a nature scene move like a car and then in the shapes of people. :-)
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21:34<bbeattie>It's also due to the fact that I only get one channel well. I'll clean up the code and send a patch for now. This may be all I can do for a few weeks, but it's working none the less.
21:41<tdb30_>what are you working on bbettie?
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21:52<bbeattie>hdtv support in myth
21:55<just1nux>bbeaitie: what card do you use for that?
21:55<bbeattie>.. fixed the buffer problem. :-) I'll have a well working (except for seeking) hdtv patch tonight it looks like.
21:57<bbeattie>pchdtv, it will go on sale in a week or so, It's a Linux only HDTV supported card
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22:14<merf>wow.. live tv actually works farely well on my PII450 with 0.10 :D
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22:55<bbeattie>I'm not a guru at cvs, but is there a way to create a patch for my changes if I'm using head on cvs?
22:56<bline>cvs diff -u
22:57<Timon>cvs -z3 -diff -ud > blah.diff
22:57<Timon>is what isaac likes
22:57<mikegrb>what does the -d do?
22:58<bline> -d Change the algorithm to perhaps find a smaller set of changes.
22:58<bline> This makes diff slower (sometimes much slower).
22:58<Timon>heck if I know, I just know thats how he likes the diff's :-)
22:58<bline>-z3 is just compression on the data transfer
22:58<bbeattie>odd, it isn't taking that command due to the -u
22:59<bbeattie>it did when using it alone..
22:59<bline>strange version of diff maybe
22:59<bbeattie>it's diff, not -diff
22:59<bline>he wan't take it without -u
23:00<bline>who said it was -diff?
23:00<Timon>oops, your right no -diff
23:00<Timon>That was me
23:00<bline>oh, nevermind
23:00<bbeattie>;)
23:00<bbeattie>so do I just send this patch to the dev maillist?
23:00<Timon>yup
23:00<bline>sure
23:01<Chutt>bbeattie, send it to me as well
23:01<bbeattie>hrm, that diff doesn't get the new files I created...
23:01<Chutt>since the lists are down at the moment
23:01<bbeattie>can't I just get a cvs password for commit? ;)
23:01<Chutt>hah
23:01<mikegrb>Chutt: thanks for your help this afternoon :-) my wufre was happy when she came home and all those movies were together
23:02<bbeattie>lets see, I probably need to do a cvs add on the new files, but I', not sure how diff will handle that.
23:02<bline>there is an option for that
23:02<Chutt>try the new file option
23:02<mikegrb>an hour!
23:02<mikegrb>er
23:03<bbeattie>Chutt: by new file option do you mean doing a cvs add on the hdtvrecorder.* files and then doing the diff? Do you know if that will work correctly?
23:04<bline>this man page sucks
23:05<bline>ahh, -N works
23:07<bbeattie>-N didn't add the new files to the diff
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23:08<bbeattie>I'll wait to see if anyone else knows for sure how to do this. doing the cvs add of the files is the only way I see working.
23:08<Chutt>just tar em up and include the new files with the patch.
23:09<bbeattie>will do, which e-mails should I sent it to?
23:09<Chutt>ijr@po.cwru.edu
23:16* mikegrbhad to go get a dvd drive today for his mythtv box
23:18<paulproteus>Well, gee, mikegrb, you may as well have bought an Xbox as your frontend!
23:20<mdz>yeah, it's a pain to do a cvs diff which adds new files
23:21<mikegrb>paulproteus: heh I have an xbox about 5 feet from the myth box... I had to um beta test thor's dvd code, yha that's it
23:21<bbeattie>Chutt: sent
23:22<bbeattie>If you're going to commit it soon, I can stay around for a few minutes to fix something if it doesn't work, if not, I'll need to run.
23:22<Chutt>i won't have time until tomorrow
23:23<bbeattie>alright, I'll be around all day. Have a good evening. :)
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