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---Logopened Mon Aug 25 00:00:14 2003
00:02<o_cee>all the system is up to date
00:03<o_cee>gotta get breakfast
00:17<o_cee>...
00:17<o_cee>is everyone asleep?
00:19<o_cee>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=59733;search_string=using%20gdb;guest=1064496&t=search_engine#59733 <-- looks alot like my problem..
00:29<o_cee>(gdb) bt
00:29<o_cee>#0 0x40bb9486 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
00:29<o_cee>#1 0x00000000 in ?? ()
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00:30<phar0e>good evening gentlemen
00:30<o_cee>hello
00:30<o_cee>g'morning
00:30<phar0e>wee, a feature I love was recently added to mythweb2 cvs..
00:30<phar0e>the feature to select recording profile and other fun settings for recording
00:30<o_cee>are you a gdb guru?
00:30<phar0e>gdb?
00:31<o_cee>gdb
00:31<phar0e>green database?
00:31<o_cee>debugger
00:31<o_cee>nevermind :)
00:31<phar0e>nope, mythtv never crashes on me. I have nothing to report
00:32<phar0e>just a big fan.. mythtv rocks
00:32<phar0e>going to order some larger hard drives and faster CPU this week sometime
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00:47<donald63>Sound Q: The MythTV HOWTO says that you can use btaudio to obtain audio directly from the tuner card, and then lists some cards that do/do not work. Does PVR 350 work?
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00:51<donald63> /set NOVICE off
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01:16<yebyen>welp, next step is to reformat my mythbox, start using the debs
01:16<yebyen>:D
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01:58<bbeattie>dang, my line buffer went over.. All I see is that capt said I wasn't around, I had to run for family stuff, anything I missed and should know about?
02:10<sc00p_>Captain_Murdoch: what were you going to say to kc8apf about mplayer/lirc earlier?
02:10<kc8apf>as a side note, it appears to be an issue with mplayer
02:10<kc8apf>xine works fine
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04:50<linagee>how do i do a mythtv install in debian?
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05:07* toe wonders what's a good X resolution for widescreen TV format
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05:15<xantus^>hey guys
05:15<xantus^>great work
05:15<xantus^>i love mythtv
05:16<xantus^>i just bought a HD-2000, i'm excited
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08:00<toe>ok, lol, how do I stop recording something?
08:01<toe>it seems there is no way of stopping a reording after starting an 'instant recording'
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08:43<wishie>anyone here use an saa7134 based tv card ?
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09:35<Timon>toe: You move focus to the stop button and press space
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10:28<o_cee>weh
10:29<o_cee>is Chutt here?
10:29<o_cee>or anyone else who's good with gdb and that kind of stuff? :)
10:30<o_cee>:\
10:36<Timon>I know a little, make it quick
10:37<o_cee>uhm, i don't get any output when it's supposed to.
10:37<o_cee>booting the box
10:37<Timon>k
10:40<o_cee>dragon bin # gdb ./mythbackend
10:40<o_cee>then handle SIGPIPE nostop
10:40<Timon>k
10:40<o_cee>run
10:40<Timon>looks good so far
10:40<o_cee>now i gotta go crash it.. hold on
10:40<Timon>k
10:41<o_cee>it should be dead now.
10:41<o_cee>now i should do ctrl+c, right?
10:41<Timon>k
10:42<Timon>yup
10:42<o_cee>Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
10:42<o_cee>[Switching to Thread 213006 (LWP 1438)]
10:42<o_cee>0x40bb9486 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
10:42<Timon>then thread apply all bt full
10:42<o_cee>(gdb) thread apply all bt full
10:42<o_cee>Couldn't get registers: Operation not permitted.
10:42<o_cee>#0 0x40bb9486 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
10:42<o_cee>what the hell is that.
10:43<Timon>checking
10:43<o_cee>ok
10:44<o_cee>this happens when i try to record.. if that helps
10:44<o_cee>but pausing live tv works
10:44<Timon>o_cee: what version of gdb?
10:44<o_cee>one sec
10:44<o_cee>dragon bin # gdb ./mythbackend
10:44<o_cee>GNU gdb 5.3
10:45<Timon>I can't figure it out, and I have to run to work.
10:45<o_cee>ok, thanks anyway
10:45<o_cee>i'll try to get a hold of Chutt later
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10:46<o_cee>maybe thor could help me :)
10:46<thor___>perhaps ?
10:46<o_cee>i'm trying to use gdb to debug a seg fault
10:47<o_cee>but all i get is this
10:47<o_cee>(gdb) thread apply all bt full
10:47<o_cee>Couldn't get registers: Operation not permitted.
10:47<o_cee>#0 0x40bb9486 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
10:47<thor___>wow
10:47<o_cee>any idea?
10:47<thor___>cool
10:47<o_cee>ooookay? :)
10:47<thor___>what cpu ?
10:47<o_cee>p4 celeron
10:47<thor___>what gcc on which distro ?
10:47<Chutt>rh9, of course
10:47<o_cee>gentoo
10:47<Chutt>heh
10:48<o_cee>getting gcc info
10:48<Chutt>hadn't heard of that happening on gentoo
10:48<Chutt>basically, your gdb/gcc/glibc are mismatched.
10:48<o_cee>Latest version installed: 3.2.3-r1
10:48<o_cee>hm
10:48<Chutt>and/or your kernel
10:48<o_cee>sounds like alot of fun.
10:48<thor___>sounds like you're running something a little too bleeding edge
10:48<o_cee>got everything synced
10:49<o_cee>but nothing that's masked
10:49<o_cee>(gentoos way of keeping the newest packages away from you)
10:49<thor___>well ... lets back up a sec ... what's segfaulting ?
10:49<Chutt>so everyone using gentoo has a broken gdb then?
10:49<Chutt>that's going to be great!
10:50<o_cee>thor___: as soon as i try to record..
10:50<o_cee>but livetv pausing works..
10:50<Chutt>it didn't segfault in what you just pasted.
10:50<o_cee>no?
10:51<Chutt>uh, no. SIGINT means you interrupted it with ctl-c
10:51<o_cee>let me run it without gdb..
10:51<Chutt>what's that going to do?
10:51<o_cee>what do i know
10:51<o_cee>this is another thing.
10:52<o_cee>i'll spam a little, hold on
10:52<Chutt>no.
10:52<o_cee>okay, no.
10:52<o_cee>Database error was:
10:52<o_cee>Duplicate entry '6-20030825163000' for key 1
10:52<o_cee>Changing from None to RecordingOnly
10:52<o_cee>Segmentation fault
10:52<o_cee>a little less spam.
10:52<Chutt>i can't help you until you get a backtrace.
10:52<o_cee>tell me how
10:52<Chutt>use a better distro.
10:53<Chutt>i don't know what crap gentoo ships
10:53<thor___>o_cee, I know nothing about gentoo, but isn't there some way to
10:53<thor___>downgrade your gcc/gdb/libc ?
10:53<o_cee>probably
10:54<o_cee>i don't understand why it segfaults when i run without gdb, and doesn't when i run it from gdb..
10:54<thor___>Chutt, things seem fairly stable ... =)
10:54<Chutt>i wouldn't know
10:55<Chutt>thor, heh
10:56<thor___>I'm still fiddling with mythDVD and mythVideo ... few things to polish ... then thinking about burning
10:56<Chutt>nice
10:56<thor___>can't decide if I want mythBurn, or burning modules for music and dvd, or both ...
10:57<Chutt>mtd
10:57<o_cee>ok. when i run mythbackend without gdb, it segfaults. when i run from gdb, it doesn't. if i interupt it where it normally segfaults, i'm able to get some backtrace now.. (a little different scenario then the first one..) are you intrested in this output?
10:57<Chutt>not really, no
10:57<thor___>? mtd is burner ?
10:57<Chutt>need a backtrace of the segfault.
10:57<Chutt>thor, sure, why not. it's a daemon that can do it
10:58<o_cee>and it should say segfault inside of gdb as well, right? (haven't used this before)
10:58<Chutt>sure.
10:58<thor___>I hear you, but I need a way to say "Hey, Idiot, you don't have a blank disc in the drive" ... or mayber just fail ...
10:58<o_cee>and you have no clue whatsoever why it doesn't segfaults inside gdb?
10:59<thor___>o_cee, gdb changes relative speeds of things a little
10:59<Chutt>thor, well, same way mythdvd does ripping
10:59<Chutt>status messages passed back and stuff
11:00<Chutt>but i think it'd be easiest to have all that code live in mtd, with just UIs in mythdvd/mythmusic
11:00<thor___>Chutt, yeah ... that should be improved in any case ... ok ...
11:01<thor___>ok .. signing off ... still running on expensive dialup ....
11:01<Chutt>later
11:01<thor___>o_cee ... you might want to clean out your recordings and rebuild your database ... that error message seems to be about existing recordings
11:01<thor___>see ya
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13:06<o_cee>hiya Chutt, it's the annoying dude again
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13:07<tmk>heh
13:08* tmk has quite IRC (Read error: 77 (Connection reset by backhoe))
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13:09<o_cee>blargh
13:09<tmk>owned by peer eh
13:09* o_cee got lost :)
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13:28<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt: you around?
13:28<Captain_Murdoch_>bbeattie: couple people were in here last night asking about the hd-2000 since they saw the slashdot story.
13:28<o_cee>Chutt: the backend is in gdb, saying that it's recording (Changing from None to RecordingOnly // [New Thread 229391 (LWP 1692)]). but there's nothing beeing written to the disk? and it's the same as before, it segfaults if i run it without gdb. it's not me that's tottaly off track, and it's the frontend that's the problem? it almost looks like this one? (http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=59733;search_string=usin
13:28<o_cee>59733)
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13:36<bbeattie>Captain_Murdoch: alright, maybe they'll stop by again.
13:37<Chutt>bbeattie, get a chance to try that seeking stuff?
13:37<bbeattie>Chutt: will today,
13:37<Chutt>works on the two hdtv sample files i have
13:37<bbeattie>I received a few requests to build HTPC's for people, so I'm replying to those requests.
13:38<bbeattie>Chutt: great. :)
13:38<bbeattie>who wrote the code for tracking the packets for seeking?
13:38<Chutt>me, of course
13:39<Chutt>20 minutes of work :p
13:40<Chutt>o_cee, don't message me
13:40<o_cee>Chutt: didn't get any response any other way.
13:41<Chutt>you're not trying to figure things out on your own.
13:41<Chutt>instead, you're wasting my time
13:41<o_cee>what do you know about what i've been trying to do to troubleshoot it?
13:42<Chutt>the questions that you've been asking
13:43<Chutt>as i said before, i can't help you until you get a good backtrace of the crash.
13:43<o_cee>ok..
13:45<o_cee>but; have you got ANY kind of idea why it doesn't segfaults within gdb? anyway, i'll run the frontend from gdb as well and see what happens. sorry i'm wasting your time.
13:45<Chutt>thor already told you that.
13:45<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt: for that weekslot on non-advanced recording screen... so we don't want "week" on there anywhere, just allow original recording types and don't try to guess if it's a weekly show and say "weekly" even though it sets as daily?
13:46<Chutt>captain_murdoch, i'm happy with it the way it is.
13:46<Captain_Murdoch_>right now it tries to guess.
13:46<Captain_Murdoch_>fine by me. :) then I don't have to try to "fix" it.
13:47<Chutt>heh
13:47<Chutt>ok
13:47<Captain_Murdoch_>I hadn't seen that screen in months until yesterday when I turned off the option to always use the advanced screen. :)
13:49<o_cee>ok.. mythfrontend -> connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 then nothing more (no video). the backend didn't respond at all, it seems like it's stuck. still says Changing from None to RecordingOnly / [New Thread 229391 (LWP 1692)]... i have no clue what this means, but the backend doesn't seem healthy. heh
13:49<Chutt>o_cee, no one _cares_ until you get a backtrace of the crash.
13:50<o_cee>Chutt: what I don't understand is _if_ the backend has crashed or not.
13:50<Chutt>so figure it out.
13:50<o_cee>now you are beeing unreasonable.
13:50<Chutt>no, i'm not
13:51<Chutt>you're being unreasonable in that you expect free tech support from me
13:52<o_cee>heheh, i really don't consider this free tech support, and that's not what i'm expecting. i'm really just trying to help. i'll recompile without the dvb support now (i'm not using it, but who knows..)
13:53<Chutt>helping would be providing a patch that fixed the problem you're having
13:54<o_cee>my programming knowledge is about to improve over the near future, as soon as i have the right knowledge i will be, in your eyes, more helpfull.
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13:56<o_cee>from one thing to another, did you look at the bootsplash?
13:57<figgy>what about bootsplash?
13:58<o_cee>figgy: what about it? i mailed bootsplashes i made to the user list
13:58<figgy>ah.
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14:04<o_cee>Chutt: thor said that i should wipe the database.. what would you recommend deleting (that could be related)? record, recorded.. more?
14:04<Chutt>i don't know.
14:05<o_cee>doesn't suprise me.
14:06<Chutt>really, what part of 'i can't help you until you get a good backtrace' is hard to understand?
14:06<tmk>sup chutt
14:06<Chutt>hey
14:08<tmk>worked on the decoder a bit
14:08<tmk>it's really sensitive :/
14:08<Chutt>heh
14:08<Chutt>how so?
14:08<tmk>well it seems jumpy
14:08<tmk>and makes wierd noises
14:09<o_cee>i deleted that line i just wrote and: i'll get back to you when i have the backtrace of the problem (or if it wasn't).
14:09<tmk>probably buggy code :)
14:09<tmk>on my part of course
14:09<Chutt>heh
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14:09<Chutt>i did decide what i'm going to do for the OSD
14:09<Chutt>i just need to get working on it
14:11<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt: did you get your eden and pvr-250 setup from that contest yet?
14:12<Chutt>it's just a bare board, i believe
14:12<Chutt>and, no
14:13<Captain_Murdoch_>saw a guy post on slashdot who was one of the developers on freevo saying they had received theirs I think.
14:14<Chutt>i didn't think they were shipping yet
14:14<Chutt>and, i just got the email a couple days ago
14:15<Captain_Murdoch_>said sometime in august so I was curious. also said it's one of their machines so I'm assuming that black-box on their page. nice to see Myth got 2. is that vektor as well for tvtime?
14:17<Captain_Murdoch_>I should have committed my commercial detection/skip patch. ;)
14:17<Chutt>yeah, vektor did
14:17<Chutt>but
14:17<Chutt>there were only 5 valid submissions
14:17<Chutt>so the prizes changed a bit :p
14:18<tmk>did i win?
14:18<Captain_Murdoch_>oh. well, free hardware is free hardware.
14:18<bbeattie>Chutt: back seeking works fine, but it appears that forward isn't, I'm checking into why now.
14:19<Chutt>tmk, did you submit yourself?
14:19<tmk> i did not :<
14:19<tmk>wasn't i listed as an example tho?
14:19<Chutt>bbeattie, for existing files, you can only seek to where you've been in the file
14:19<Chutt>tmk, yeah, but you still had to enter
14:19<tmk>ah well
14:19<bbeattie>chutt
14:19<Chutt>tmk, you want the board?
14:20<bbeattie>Chutt: so when watching a recorded show, you can't skip ahead?
14:20<Chutt>bbeattie, if it's a new recording, sure
14:20<Chutt>tmk, mine, that is
14:20<tmk>pvr250?
14:20<Chutt>no, the m10k
14:20<tmk>oh sure
14:20<Chutt>that i won
14:21<tmk>i'll even pay shipping :)
14:21<Chutt>i'll see if they can just send it to you instead
14:21<tmk>sweet :)
14:21<Chutt>like, i don't really need it
14:21<tmk>yeah, i was gonna say the same if you were offering the pvr250 :)
14:22<bbeattie>Chutt: what I am seeing, is it always tells me I'm 0 seconds behind in livetv, when pausing, or when rewinding. I can never seek forward at any point, even if I watch several minutes and then rewind. I'm 0 seconds behind
14:22<Chutt>hmm
14:22<Chutt>bbeattie, well, i dunno
14:23<bbeattie>the buffer % appears to be incorrect, but it does increase.
14:23<Chutt>hard to figure it out without the card
14:23<bbeattie>I'll check into it more.
14:23<bbeattie>.. I'm going to first check into adding /dev/dtv to the video device list that currently just has /dev/video, as people won't want to symlink /dev/video4 to /dev/dtv as I do now.
14:24<Chutt>that's a one liner
14:24<Chutt>i can do that
14:25<Chutt>sorry, two lines
14:26<bbeattie>/dev/dtv*'s
14:26<Chutt>yeah
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14:31<Chutt>bbeattie, checked in
14:32<bbeattie>Chutt: great
14:37<berli>anyone had audio issues with bttv after updating to .11 from .10? I get stuttering. It seems to be generated by the tv card, but i'm not sure
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15:20<bbeattie>Chutt: did that commit work for you? I don't get /dev/dtv* devices still, I see the code you added though
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15:23<Chutt>i dunno
15:23<Chutt>i can't tell if it worked or not
15:25<sfr>Chutt, are you going to commit my patch to mythmusic?
15:26<Chutt>still wanted to look it over
15:26<Chutt>what did you mean by the fixfilename stuff being broken?
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16:09<bbeattie>anyone know if there are some P4 based shuttle systems that have spdif/optical out that work with Linux?
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16:24<xantus^>bbeattie, i think i saw one at compUSA yesterday
16:25<xantus^>but the linux part is unknown
16:25<bbeattie>What chipset does the p4 shuttle use for audio/spdif?
16:25<xantus^>i'm not sure, but I can take a look next time i'm there
16:26<xantus^>i read your faq last night on slug
16:26<xantus^>the how-to i mean
16:26<xantus^>http://www.sllug.org/how-to/linux-htpc/introduction.html
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16:42<bbeattie>was it helpful?
16:43<bbeattie>any comments?
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17:03<bbeattie>anyone know how many HD's you can get into a shuttle case?
17:07<Chutt>wouldn't think too terribly many
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17:11<tmk>chutt: is that epia board just barebones?
17:11<Chutt>believe so
17:11<tmk>coo
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17:16<o_cee>Chutt: i fixed my problem. it was (as i suspected, heh) my fault.
17:19<o_cee>good night
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17:47<Bonkers>how come when I do "update recorded set hostname="mygentoo";" it tells me there's a duplicated key and then changes the start time on almost all the recordings?
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17:50<Chutt>because some of the fields are timestamps?
17:51<Bonkers>but I didn't try setting them, so why do they change to the current time? but only the start time
17:51<Bonkers>I don't really understand mysql, I'm sure it's "supposed" to happen
17:52<Chutt>it is.
17:54<Bonkers>so how would I have updated just the hostname? is that impossible?
17:54<Chutt>you have to set the starttime at the same time you set the hostname.
17:54<Bonkers>so like put "and starttime=starttime" in there?
17:54<Chutt>i don't know
18:04<sc00p_>does anyone know how to configure ~/.mythtv/lircrc to send PageUp or PageDown events?
18:10<Bonkers>Page_Up and Page_down
18:10<Bonkers>err Page_down
18:10<Bonkers>grr, Page_Down
18:12<sc00p_>hmm, I remember trying that
18:12<Bonkers>well that's what the irxevent manpage says at least
18:12<Bonkers>so I'm guessing it works
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19:04<mechou>I need some sql help. I'd like to "turn on" and "turn off" my networked mythbackends as necessary. I have a third machine (always on) which I'd like to use as the "alarm clock."
19:05<mechou>I can use ether-wake to wake up the myth backends, and a cron job to shutdown mythbackend locally....
19:05<choenig>mechou: I have written some stuff that allows the backends to shutdown/wakeup when necessary...
19:06<choenig>I use wol, too.
19:06<mechou>choenig, are you talking about your patch which you submiited to the mail list some time ago?
19:06<choenig>but I set 'at' jobs on shutdown of that ... yep, right
19:06<choenig>some days ago I worked on it again
19:07<choenig>I added support for multiple backends and stuff
19:07<mechou>ok, does the patch apply clean to .11?
19:07<choenig>I don't know, never testet that
19:07<choenig>I wanted to do some testing before I submit it to the mailing list
19:08<mechou>ok, can you descibe on a high level what happens with your work...do you need a 3rd machine to be the wake up alarm?
19:08<choenig>I think, i fixed most of the stuff Chutt wanted to see in that patch
19:08<choenig>yepp...
19:09<choenig>I set an at-job on my (24/7) server which calls the wol stuff right in time to wakeup the backend
19:09<mechou>so essential you call ether-wake to wake up the backends(BE)
19:09<choenig>I use this a long time and it works like a charm
19:09<choenig>right
19:10<mechou>how do you shut down the BE?
19:10<choenig>I have modified the scheduler so it shutsdown, when it isn't needed anymore
19:10<mechou>hmm, cool....
19:10<choenig>are you in a hurry with that?
19:11<mechou>yeah,pretty much. I can help w/ testing if you like....
19:11<choenig>or better, tomorrow I'll check if that fits with 0.11 and if so Ill send you the patch offlist, ok?
19:12<mechou>ok, cool. you likely around on irc tommorow?
19:12<choenig>yeah
19:12<mechou>ok, well touch base then. I'm a noob on irc, how do you "private message" (email address?)
19:13<choenig> /msg choenig
19:14<choenig>are you running multiple backends?
19:15<mechou>yeah, I'm running 3 BE (hence the need to save power)
19:16<choenig>ok, nice, how about seperated/notseperated frontend(s) or a seperated sql server?
19:17<choenig>this is all the stuff my patch supports, and I only run one backend and one standalone frontend
19:17<choenig>so its quite bad for testing
19:17<mechou>all 3 machines are setup w/FE, I'm thinking of migrating sql server to the "alarm clock"
19:17<choenig>ok
19:18<choenig>but you run one master/2 slaveBEs ?
19:19<mechou>hmm, not quite sure what you mean? got a capture card in each machine. Doesn't that imply a MBE on each machine....
19:19<choenig>have you thought about using nvram-wakeup or stuff?
19:19<choenig>so you have 3 diff'rent setups? not one masterbackend controlling the other slavebackends?
19:20<mechou>oops, , meant SBE, with **one** as the MBE
19:20<choenig>ah, ok :-)
19:20<mechou>I'm not sure all 3 machines upport nvram wakeup....
19:21<choenig>only the master needs to support it, my patch wakes the others using WOL
19:22<choenig>unfortunately my board doesn't support it, so I need the wol workaround
19:22<choenig>but, we'll see stuff tomorrow
19:22<mechou>ok, so you're saying I don't need a separate machine as alarm clock, but MBE (with nvram wake) can be alarm clock for everybody?
19:22<choenig>right
19:23<mechou>hmm, but what if I told you right now mythtv DB is on machine w/ MBE?
19:23<mechou>that won't make a diff?
19:24<choenig>no, the time is set to the bios at the time the MBE shuts down, so the sql server does not need to run
19:24<mechou>cool, looks like you got that corner case covered....
19:25<choenig>:)
19:26<mechou>but I got a POS mb which I'm not sure wakes reliably with wol (ECS K7S5A)
19:26<yebyen>well that's a problem
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19:26<ByteNik>Chutt, you there?
19:26<mechou>anybody else have this mb?
19:26<ByteNik>Or any other developers?
19:27<yebyen>mythtv developers, or just any developer?
19:27<yebyen>:o
19:27<choenig>mechou: I had that mb, but I couldn't get sound out of it, so I changed it
19:27<ByteNik>mythtv developers
19:27<choenig>never thestet wol with it
19:28<mechou>choenig, if its any consolation, sound works w/mine usining i810 module
19:28<choenig>I think my board was broken, I couldn't get sound out of it using _any_ driver
19:29<mechou>in theory tha mb supports nvram wake, keyboard wake, and wol, but none of them work at all in my case.
19:29<choenig>maybe you powersup is to low?
19:29<mechou>right, I'm not sure if my board os "broken", or all ECS K7S5A is crap...
19:30<mechou>how can you tell if power is too low?
19:30<mechou>sensord report around 5V standby....
19:30<choenig>I don't know, but I never had problems with wol/wokeyboard using any of my boards
19:31<yebyen>wokeyboard? i've never heard of that
19:31<choenig>wake/on/keyboard ;)
19:31<yebyen>i got that
19:31<yebyen>but still
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19:31<choenig>Mh
19:33<mechou>choenig, in the case where I'm *using* a slave backend, when it comes time to shut of the computer, can I override it?
19:34<choenig>this is not implemented, but one can think about getting that done
19:35<choenig>the question would be how to realize it rather then how to implement that
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19:36<mechou>yeah, can't the syslog "pump" a message to the foreground?
19:36<mechou>I forget the name of the app, but its there....
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19:38<phar0e>wall
19:40<choenig>you could use a script to shutdown the BE which asks you before
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19:41<choenig>that way you simply need to alter the halt command in setup
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19:42<jrestivo>'lo all
19:43<mechou>choenig, exactly. Any if nobody confirms in say 2 minutes, go ahead and shutdown....
19:43<choenig>right
19:47<choenig>so, its bedtime now. I'll send you the patch right after I got it done tomorrow morning (probably around 10-12UTC)
19:47<choenig>good night out there
19:47<mechou>ok, g'night. thx
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20:06<wishie>anyone here got an saa7134 based tv card ?
20:06<wishie>i need help getting it to work
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20:16<wishie>anyone got an saa7134 based tv card ?
20:19<xantus^>bbeattie, your howto was helpfull
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20:58<Bonkers>does anyone know why the start and endtime of recordings are timestamps and not datetimes? is there a particular reason for that?
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21:11<brtb>anybody else having problems with xmltv?
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21:11<brtb>tv_grab_na keeps saying it's getting 500 internal server errors
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21:23<tmk>what versoin
21:24<brtb>5.16
21:25<tmk>hmm
21:25<tmk>is there a newer one out?
21:25<tmk>zap2it tries to thwart xmltv users regularly
21:25<brtb>was on 0.5.15, just grabbed 0.5.16 thinking it was the usual zap2it-changed-something deal
21:25<brtb>i got it to read the channels now, but it's getting "no programs found" on half of them now
21:32<brtb>bah... nevermind, my dns was screwed
21:33<Chutt>heh
21:33<Chutt>i'm downloading redhat 9 isos
21:34<wishie>anyone got an saa7134 based tv card working ?
21:34<brtb>weird though, there's a bunch of emails on the xmltv archives recently with similar problems
21:36<moegreen>Chutt: what for?
21:36<Chutt>moegreen, hey =)
21:36<Chutt>to install onto my epia-m machine
21:37<moegreen>ah
21:37<Chutt>want to futz around with the hardware decoding support, need one of the distros that via provides binary drivers for
21:37<wishie>eww RH :P
21:38<Chutt>moegreen, how's it goin?
21:38<Chutt>saw you did a commit recently =)
21:38<moegreen>it's going pretty well.
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21:39<moegreen>heh, yeah. He had sent me the patch before I went on vacation. I don't think it actually added any functionality, but it was probably the better way to call those functions...so...it's in there
21:40<Chutt>heh, yeah, consolidates a lot of code
21:41<moegreen>Otherwise, work manages to capture most of my time. :(
21:42<Chutt>ah well, that's the way things work a lot
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23:08<linagee>is there some way to get the status of what mythbackend is doing?
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23:22<dwmurphy>anyone know of any problems with xmltv 0.5.16 on debian/unstable?
23:24<dwmurphy>nm. i see i need to downgrade :)
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23:35<dwmurphy>hmm,, i'm still getting perl errors running tv_grab_na. any volunteers? :)
23:37<mechou>dwmurphy, just signed on, joined late. what ver of xmltv?
23:37<dwmurphy>was 16, just downgraded to 15 (on debian unstable)
23:38<mechou>15 I believe need a patch. 16 should have worked....
23:38<dwmurphy>error is the same either way..
23:38<dwmurphy>using the .11-4 deb of mythtv
23:39<mechou>then most likely you didn't run tv_grab_na (16). you _probably_ ran 15
23:39<dwmurphy>it was 16 originally.
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23:40<mechou>you didn't have an "old" install of 15 lying around somewhere?
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23:40<dwmurphy>possible. sec
23:44<dwmurphy>nope
23:45<mechou>did you compile from source?
23:45<dwmurphy>no.. i pulled the debs from the places indicated in the docs. can i msg you the error?
23:46<mechou>if its no more than 10 lines
23:46<mechou>I think you ought to compile from source....
23:48<dwmurphy>sec
23:50<dwmurphy>it's bailing trying to get the list of regions and providers
23:50<dwmurphy>no worries.. i'll sort it out, or pull down the src
23:51<mechou>that's exactly the symptom 15 had....
23:52<dwmurphy>even if i try to do it manually i hit the perl error.
23:53<dwmurphy>sounds more like a debian/unstable issue :)
23:53<mechou>do what manually, tv_grab_na?
23:53<dwmurphy>yeah.. with a postalcode, to get the list of providers
23:53<mechou>that's an xmltv15 issue.
23:54<mechou>actually, more specifically, a zap2it issue....
23:54* dwmurphy trundles back to the xmltv site..
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