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00:00<mrallen>make: *** No rule to make target `/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop.
00:00<mikegrb>ahh
00:01<mikegrb>that is in the howto but it is easy you just need to do a "export QTDIR=<dir>"
00:01<mrallen>crap, missed that
00:01<mikegrb>likely possibility is /usr/share/qt3 or some such
00:01<mrallen>working now
00:02<mikegrb>you might try locate qt3
00:02<mikegrb>okay :-)
00:02<mrallen>/usr/lib/qt-3.1 default in r9. thanks!
00:02-!-Irssi: #mythtv: Total of 39 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 39 normal]
00:03<mrallen>mythtv --- easier to build than the pyramids
00:03<mrallen>:)
00:03<mikegrb>perhaps that should be the new slogan <g>
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00:07<mikegrb>heh
00:07<mikegrb>er wrong window
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00:31<mrallen>ok, probably another howto question, but setup is failing
00:31<mrallen>QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
00:31<mrallen>QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
00:31<mrallen>QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
00:31<mrallen>QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
00:31<mrallen>Unable to connect to database!
00:31<mrallen>and so on and so forth
00:31<mrallen>mysql is running
00:33<Captain_Murdoch>that's covered in the howto I think.
00:34<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch: is there already a method for the frontend to determine if the backend is recording?
00:34<mrallen>is 'Installing and using MythTV' the same as howto?
00:34<mikegrb>I know going to live tv it checks for a free tuner but I'm interested in if anything is recording
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00:35<mikegrb>mrallen: basically part of the mysql stuff is missing, you need mysql support in mythtv
00:35<mikegrb>er in qt
00:35<mikegrb>sorry, it's late
00:35<Captain_Murdoch>mikegrb. I don't think so. I'd like to have a way so ask the master backend and have it reply "tuner 0 on host X is recording Monster Garage, tuner 1 on host X is free, tuner 0 on host Y is recording 'Nascar'"
00:36<mrallen>ah. yes, missing qt-mysql package
00:36<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch: I'm aiming to change the led on the xbox
00:37<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch: so I guess I get to add a new query for the backend to recognize
00:38<Captain_Murdoch>would be nice. :) I think current code on the playbackbox screen just assumes something is recording if the current time is before the endtime.
00:38<mikegrb>I believe you are right
00:38<mrallen>any way to use mouse to config mythtv or do i absolutely need lirc + remote at this point?
00:38<mikegrb>there was a problem with it not taking into account the pre-roll when it was first added
00:39<Captain_Murdoch>keyboard
00:39<mrallen>thanks
00:40<mikegrb>I guess I'll look at the code that was added for exectv as a starting point
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00:41<mikegrb>I emailed the guy, dan I think, who did the lcd stuff because he was planning on adding this support for lcd's to see if he has any code written
00:41<Captain_Murdoch>fairly easy overall. look over the patch maybe to see what was needed for everything.
00:41<mikegrb>right
00:42<mikegrb>then I'll look at your auto-delete stuff to see how to make a timer work w/ c++ 'n qt ... look at the lcd stuff for a configure option --enable-xbox :-)
00:42<mikegrb>then it can add setup options for led colors to use and how often to check and what not
00:43<mikegrb>heh maybe that polling the backend every so often will keep the frontend from getting swapped out on my xbox, then I wont have to wait 10 sec after a key press everytime I come back after a while
00:46<CaCtus491>does the frontend on the xbox work well?
00:46<mikegrb>yes, so far anyway
00:47<mikegrb>working on getting the controllers working in mame
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00:47<tmk>chutt, you around?
00:47<CaCtus491>cool, I was thinking about getting one to use as a front end :)
00:48<CaCtus491>how long does it take to boot, and does it have an limitations compared to a pc? (as far as myth is concerned?)
00:48<mikegrb>well all the way into myth 45ish seconds, we leave it on all the time
00:49<mikegrb>I like it better in terms of the remote, the kernel driver for the dvd remote works as a usb HID device so as far as the computer is concerned, the remote is a usb keyboard
00:49<mikegrb>no lirc or what not to worry abt
00:51<CaCtus491>all the overlay and stuff works ok? visualisations in mythmusic?
00:53<mikegrb>I haven't installed mythmusic but yes
00:53<CaCtus491>cool
00:54<mikegrb>there is a guy on the lists that has made a mini linux dist for myth on the xbox
00:55<CaCtus491>one last thing then before I go out and get one :)... if I have a dvb card in the backend, can the xbox handle the mpeg stream ok (for live tv)? then if I transcode recordings to mpeg4, it could play them ok?
00:56<mikegrb>I don't have dvb so don't know but I use mpeg4
00:57<mikegrb>it is fine with that and mythvideo runs fine playing divx's over nfs
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01:03<CaCtus491>sounds good
01:04<mikegrb>is it tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .tgz?
01:04<mikegrb>er sorry wrong window
01:07<hadees>i am starting to work on for powermate support for mythtv
01:07<mikegrb>:-)
01:08<mikegrb>night all
01:08<hadees>it looks like a volume knob and i need some help on what to do with a part of it
01:08<hadees>see there is a led behind the knob that can blink and change brightness
01:09<hadees>but i am not sure what to have it attached to in mythtv
01:09<hadees>any ideas would be great
01:10<CaCtus491>...I just started playing with myth a few days ago, it's such a great program! My main problem is that the tv reception is fairly average, with the tuner card (winfast 2000xp) plugged in, even \x91normal\x92 tv reception is poor. Unplug the capture card and it becomes perfect again. Any suggestions?
01:10<CaCtus491>hadees: whats a 'powermate'? :)
01:10<hadees>http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/
01:10<hadees>it is an input device that looks like a volume knob
01:13<CaCtus491>hadees: use it to indicate if myth is recording :)
01:13<hadees>CaCtus491 are you using a splitter?
01:13<CaCtus491>hadees: yeah
01:13<hadees>when you unplug the capture card do you also remove the splitter
01:14<CaCtus491>nope, just unplug the coax from the back of the capture card
01:16<hadees>post your problem on avsforum.com
01:17<hadees>in the normal htpc forum
01:17<hadees>not the linux one, you won't get a response for a while
01:17<CaCtus491>I was thinking of moving the card to the slot furthest away from the cpu?
01:17<CaCtus491>ok
01:17<CaCtus491>thanks
01:17<hadees>and the problem should in windows as well as linux
01:17<hadees>if it happens to normal tv viewing
01:18<hadees>through the tv with the computer just plugged in
01:26<knight->anyone use a pvr250?
01:26<hadees>lots of people
01:26<knight->obviously, but anyone who is awake here with the pvr250
01:26<knight->I just picked one up today to replace my bttv based one
01:27<hadees>i got one in the mail
01:27<knight->and I'm getting read errors
01:27<hadees>sorry don't have it quite yet
01:27<knight->heh
01:28<knight->you know what tuner it has in it?
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01:28<monkeyBox>Hi all.. I'd like to manually transcode a recording, I hit "x" while watching the recording, but how do I know if it's actually transcoding??
01:30<tmk>knight: what you need
01:31<knight->tmk, trying to get this pvr250 working, but it's not at all... driver is loaded, but i'm getting read errors in xawtv and myth
01:32<tmk>xawtv won't work
01:32<tmk>it's for uncompressed streams
01:32<knight->ahh ok
01:32<tmk>pvr250 spits out mpg2 :)
01:32<knight->well anyways, still doesnt work in miyyth
01:32<knight->yah i know :)
01:32<tmk>try cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg
01:32<tmk>what do you get
01:33<knight->Changing from None to RecordingOnly
01:33<knight->error reading from: /dev/video0
01:33<knight->read: Input/output error
01:33<knight->ok
01:33<knight->testing
01:33<tmk>rmmod ivtv
01:33<tmk>insmod ivtv.o
01:33<tmk>that should fix it
01:33<knight->viper setup # cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg
01:33<knight->cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error
01:34<knight->same prob
01:34<tmk>^^
01:34<knight->and from dmesg:
01:34<knight->ivtv: i2c client addr: 33 not found!
01:34<knight->ivtv: i2c client addr: 33 not found!
01:34<knight->ivtv: Timeout waiting for data!
01:34<knight->ivtv: EOS interrupt not received! stopping anyway.
01:34<knight->after trying the cat
01:35<snorp>knight-: the module loading order is very important
01:35<snorp>knight-: did you do that correctly?
01:35<knight->snorp, i followed it, yes
01:35<snorp>hmm
01:35<knight->although I will try again
01:36<snorp>tmk: why is it that unloading/loading sometimes fixes stuff?
01:36<snorp>it kind of bothers me :)
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01:37<knight->tmk
01:38<tmk>snorp: sometimes the digitizer and the encoder get out of sync
01:38<tmk>i haven't put in logic to test htat yet
01:38<tmk>sup
01:38<knight->i found your response on the I2C error
01:38<knight->i have those as well
01:38<knight->addr 97, 64, not found
01:38<tmk>hmm
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01:38<tmk>hauppauge may have changed the board some
01:38<knight->:(
01:38<tmk>load i2c-algo-bit with the bit_scan=1 option
01:39<tmk>and msg me the output of the .'s
01:39<knight->ok
01:39<knight->hang on
01:39<knight->going to do a fresh reboot
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01:41<knight->tmk, also, should tuner type=2?
01:43<tmk>knight: load the tveeprom module
01:43<tmk>that will tell you
01:44<knight->where can i get that?
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01:45<toe>knight - you are using PAL buy havent told the driver that you are?
01:45* toe enters a conversation 1/2 way through
01:45<knight->no, NTSC
01:46<tmk>it's part of ivtv
01:46<knight->tmk, ok, trying
01:47<knight->tmk, whats the proper modules.conf line for the i2c-algo-bit lines?
01:47<tmk>options i2c-algo-bit debug=1 bit_scan=1
01:47<knight->right but whats the alias
01:48<tmk>no alias
01:48<knight->ahh
01:49<knight->ok, rebooting
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01:54<knight->ok
01:54<knight->ivtv: Timeout waiting for data!
01:55<knight->ivtv: init error 1. Code -16
01:55<knight->ivtv: init error 2. Code -16
01:56<knight->etc
01:56<knight->i got 18 of those sequentially
01:56<knight->saa7115[0]: decoder disable output
01:56<knight->ivtv: init error 19. Code -16
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02:03<knight->heh
02:08<tmk>knight: what did algo-bit have to say
02:09<knight->msg'd you it
02:10<knight->01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
02:10<knight-> Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4001
02:10<knight->from lspci -v btw
02:12<tmk>knight: lemme check my i2c's
02:12<knight->ok
02:19<tmk>hmm those are the same id's as what i've got
02:19<tmk>what kernel rev?
02:19<knight->FreeBSD pradesh.hacksess.com 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 18 01:37:40 CDT 2003 knight@pradesh.hacksess.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PRADESH i386
02:19<knight->oops
02:19<knight->wrong machine :)
02:20<knight->Linux viper.phunc.com 2.4.20-gentoo-r2 #11 SMP Sat Jun 7 21:12:34 PDT 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
02:20<tmk>hmm
02:20<tmk>is it really SMP?
02:20<knight->no
02:20<knight->SMP is disabled at boot, it's a single processor mobo anyways
02:21<tmk>dunno then
02:22<knight->hmm
02:22<tmk>i never figured out what causes those i2c errors
02:22<tmk>might be some 'advanced' kernel version
02:22<knight->is that what your modules.conf looks like?
02:23<knight->i have a pctv card (bttv) in as well, but i'm not loading bttv at all
02:24<tmk>you sure?
02:25<tmk>check.. sometimes it's automatic
02:25<knight->i'm sure :)
02:25<tmk>you spelled videodev wrong too
02:25<knight->ohhh
02:25<knight->ok let me fix
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02:28<tmk>heh
02:28<tmk>just email it to me
02:32<knight-> 971 root 20 0 5732 5732 4444 S 27.7 1.1 0:26 artsd
02:32<knight-> 1287 root 9 0 13924 13M 6816 S 4.9 2.7 0:02 mythbackend
02:32<knight->why is artsd eatig up so much cpu during record
02:32<knight->eating
02:33<Chutt>because you're not supposed to be running it.
02:34<knight->heh
02:34<knight->why not?
02:34<Chutt>well, first off, arts sucks.
02:35<Chutt>second, mythtv doesn't know about it/use it
02:35<knight->it's killed
02:35<knight->still serious lag during pvr250 crecord and no sound
02:36<knight->somehow mythbackend it eating 38% cpu, but the whole machine is lagging
02:36<knight-> 1287 root 9 0 14060 13M 6904 S 38.3 2.7 0:32 mythbackend
02:36<Chutt>mythbackend shouldn't be using any cpu.
02:36<Chutt>if you had things setup properly.
02:36<knight->Thanks for that tidbit of clarification.
02:37<knight->The blame is on me, I'll accept that.
02:37<knight->How can Itroubleshoot this further now
02:37<Chutt>start by reading the pvr-250 section in the howto
02:38<knight->I did.
02:38<knight->I followed it to the T.
02:39<Chutt>sorry, but i doubt that
02:39<knight->I understand you assume I'm very new to mythtv.
02:39<knight->I've read the pvr-250 section several times.
02:40<knight->ivtv is latest cvs, modules.conf almost mimics example in howot, etc.
02:40<knight->Can we please get past your assumptions that I'm a cluebie who hasn't even read he docs?
02:40<Chutt>nope
02:40<knight->Cute.
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02:41<Chutt>if you're not a cluebie, then crack open gdb and see what it's doing
02:41<knight->Certainly massuh.
02:42<Chutt>are you trying to be annoying?
02:42<knight->Are you trying to be a dick?
02:42<Chutt>i do have better things to do than free tech support.
02:42<knight->Then don't help. Your pretenciousness isn't really helpful.
02:43<Chutt>it's my channel.
02:43<knight->We already know you're a stud.
02:43<Chutt>any questions asked in here are directed to me.
02:43<knight->You don't have to be cocky about everything.
02:45<Chutt>sure i do
02:45<Chutt>i'm trying to cut down on the amount of free tech support that happens here
02:45<knight->Why would you do that?
02:46<Chutt>this is _supposed_ to be for development.
02:46<knight->You tried to shut me up months ago when I made a ton of mythweb additions and requested solid database changes with no increase in query duration.
02:47<knight->So I doubt this is much about development.
02:47<Chutt>tried to?
02:47<Chutt>i said 'submit a patch with your proposed database changes'
02:47<Chutt>and you never did.
02:47<Chutt>you also never submitted the mythweb changes
02:47<knight->Indeed I didn't.
02:47<Chutt>i'm not going to write code for you just because you asked me to
02:47<knight->I never wanted you to write me code.
02:47<knight->I wrote plenty of my own.
02:48<Chutt>'requested solid database changes'
02:48<knight->Right, but my proposals here in chat were swiftly denied by you
02:48<knight->Since youwere satisfied with the existing playlist column
02:48<Chutt>indeed.
02:49<knight->That's my point. EOL.
02:49<Chutt>then i said, if you wanted something better, submit a patch so i could look it over.
02:49<Chutt>but funnily enough, that never happened.
02:49<knight->Anyhow, you're rihgt, I'm wrong, and I'm happy to stfu now.
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02:50<Chutt>have you emailed the list about the problem with the pvr-250?
02:51<Chutt>someone out there's probably gotten something similar before..
02:51<knight->I'll probably proceed with that.
02:52<Chutt>there's nothing in the direct code path that i can think of that would use any cpu
02:52<Chutt>which is why i'm fairly sure it's a config issue
02:54<Chutt>or it could be all tmk's fault
02:55<knight->heh
03:00<FryGuy>personally I just want both my tuners to start working again
03:00<FryGuy>can I blame that on tmk too? :)
03:01<Chutt>yeah
03:01<FryGuy>although I think if one of the tuners is borked, it causes the backend to crash just after starting to record
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03:02<FryGuy>it gives the warnings on startup, but still thinks it should record
03:03<Chutt>what warnings?
03:03<FryGuy>something like unable to read from /dev/video1
03:04<Chutt>ah
03:04<Chutt>yeah, i doubt it deals with that at all
03:04<knight->Chutt, anyone submit any code for having chained storage dirs?
03:04<Chutt>nope, no one has
03:04<knight->Ok, perhaps I'll look into thta.
03:04<knight->that
03:04<Chutt>cool.
03:04<Chutt>lotta people just use lvm for that
03:05<FryGuy>at one point I had them both working, but when I rebooted only one showed up
03:05<knight->Yeah, but then those drives are basically permanently connected right?
03:05<FryGuy>knight: multiple backends :)
03:05<Chutt>don't think so
03:05<knight->Having drive spillage would be safer and independant of raid, etc
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03:13<knight->what's an oss mixer command?
03:13<Chutt>aumix?
03:13<Chutt>or are you meaning something else..
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03:17<knight->no that's fine
03:17<knight->I'
03:17<knight->Thanks.
03:18<lythe>how can i test to ensure that my audio is working correctly when im using oss instead of alsa
03:18<lythe>xawtv will play audio/video but mythtv freezes up with a black window when i go to watch tv after configuring the inputs and such
03:19<tmk>chutt: you around?
03:19<Chutt>tmk, yup
03:19<tmk>cool. If you can, woudl you mind installing lkcd?
03:19<tmk>lkcd.sf.net
03:19<tmk>saves crashdumps
03:19<Chutt>lythe, there's an error message on the console you ran myth from
03:19<lythe>nope
03:19<lythe>it just says connecting to master backend
03:19<tmk>so when your myth crashes due to pvr250, it'll give me a traceback
03:20<tmk>i think i know what it is, but it'd make sure
03:20<lythe>the backend server doesnt print any connection message either, if it does at all
03:20<Chutt>lythe, then it's not able to connect to the backend.
03:20<bline>tmk: the weekly lockup?
03:20<tmk>yea
03:20<lythe>oh really hrm
03:21<Chutt>tmk, it hasn't crashed recently
03:21<tmk>great
03:21<Chutt>haven't rebooted that machine in awhile
03:21<tmk>i think it's a schedule during irq time
03:21<tmk>ie semaphore sleep
03:21<tmk>which i'll be fixing as soon as i get the decoder going properly
03:24<bline>yay
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03:56<jarodwilson>Anyone seen bbeatie lately?
03:56<jarodwilson>er, bbeattie
03:56<Chutt>during the day, eastern
03:56<jarodwilson>aha
03:56<jarodwilson>(I'm west coast)
03:56<jarodwilson>thanks
03:56<Chutt>i think he is as well
03:57<Chutt>but that's when he's on more, at least
03:57<jarodwilson>Oh duh. Salt Lake.
03:57<harrih>Hello, question to anyone who knows, how many records is a recorded program supposed to create in recordedmarkup table ?
03:57<jarodwilson>I'll try to catch him tomorrow then...
03:58<harrih>i have over 200000 records, is this normal ? I'm investigating a problem that freezes the frontend when fast forwarding
03:58<Chutt>harrih, lots.
03:59<harrih>does anyone else have this problem : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=77629;search_string=rebuffering;guest=1075237&t=search_engine#77629
04:00<jarodwilson>Nope. What capture card?
04:00<harrih>tvwonder ve
04:04<harrih>well, at least some other people seem to have the same problem, so if I hosed my install somehow, I'm not the only one :(
04:05<jarodwilson>Hm. I certainly can't be of much help.
04:05<jarodwilson>I've got a PVR-250
04:05<jarodwilson>(well, and an AVerTV Studio, but I haven't done much w/it yet)
04:06<harrih>I was thinking of getting a PVR-250 but the recording filesize put me off
04:07<lythe>anyone have suggestions on a nicely supported PCI sound card?
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04:08<jarodwilson>Yes, the PVR-250 file sizes are pretty big... but you can transcode post-record now.
04:09<jarodwilson>For a sound card, I've had very good experiences with several SoundBlaster Audigy OEM cards
04:10<jarodwilson>For a bit nicer card, I'm rather partial to the M-Audio Revolution 7.1
04:11<knight-> 1287 root 9 0 14060 13M 6904 S 38.3 2.7 0:32 mythbackend
04:11<knight->oops\
04:11<knight->ignor that
04:12<tmk>jaro: you can decrease the bitrage
04:12<tmk>bitrate even
04:12<jarodwilson>tmk: you're referring to the PVR-250 part, I assume...
04:13<jarodwilson>Yeah, I know. But I like 8/16 at 720x480!
04:13<jarodwilson>(outputting to HDTV)
04:13<jarodwilson>:)
04:13<jarodwilson>(I'm a big fan of your work, btw :)
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04:27<tmk>:) thx
04:27<tmk>i bought a 120gb drive so i could keep my full-bitrate recordings :)
04:28<tmk>night all
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04:29<jarodwilson>only 1x120? :)
04:29<jarodwilson>well, time for me to get some sleep too...
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04:45<knight->heh
04:54<Chutt>great
04:54<Chutt>hung my machine
04:55<Chutt>stupid via junk
05:04<lythe>I can't figure out why this alsa module snd-sbawe wont load, the oss module loads fine
05:04<lythe>and the alsa documetnation doesnt cover any failures heh
05:13<knight->lythe, have you checked on the alsa mailing lists?
05:14<lythe>not yet
05:15<lythe>you think i should check alsa-user?
05:15<knight->yep
05:17<lythe>seems its not uncommon problem, uncommon answer though :)
05:32<knight->is ~/.mythtv/lircrc the same as ~/.lircrc?
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06:23<marc>morning
06:24<marc>after cutting and pasting XF86Config's, I now have one that does most of what I want
06:24<marc>however, Mythfrontend doesn't show any texts
06:25<marc>looking up the output of 'startx', I can see that it doesn't seem to find various font path elements.
06:25<marc>although the folders are there.
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06:33<o_cee>TheWildgoose: there?
06:47<o_cee>what's the format of the PID settings for dvb?
06:49<o_cee>but maybe i should try the new patch instead..
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07:11<o_cee>very quiet today
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08:08<oc>TheWildgoose?
08:10<oc>Chutt?
08:12<oc>can't figure out the dvb settings.. i'm just getting DVBChannel ERROR: Checkchannel could not verify channel!.. anyone with working dvb who could share some knowledge?
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08:16<oc>guess you're all sleeping. heh
08:18<monkeyBox>how do I manually transcode my recording? I tried pressing "x" but I don't see anything hapening...
08:18<oc>is it playing while you press x?
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08:18<monkeyBox>yes
08:19<o_cee>check with ps if it's running, not sure if it outputs anything
08:19<monkeyBox>is the transcoder a separate process?
08:19<o_cee>i'd think so, but i don't know that much really
08:30<o_cee>whepp
08:31<o_cee>a funny thread i saw on a forum was to past whatever you had in your cut&paste.. there was a lot of strange stuff in there, alot of people who posted :) (and explained)
08:32<o_cee>but since there's no people here, ah well
08:32<o_cee>me is bored. takes time to compile myth even with 2ghz
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08:53<o_cee>hmm, not getting the new dvb patches to compile..
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08:56<marc>hello
08:56<o_cee>hello
08:56<marc>Mythfrontend doesn't show any text anymore in the menus...
08:56<marc>happen to have a clue?
08:57<o_cee>redhat?
08:58<marc>debian
08:58<o_cee>think i saw something about that in the docs for redhat..
08:58<o_cee>but i dunno
08:58<marc>mythtv docs or redhat docs=?
08:59<o_cee>myth
09:00<marc>thanks... will look there
09:01<o_cee>wouldn't that be the place to start looking?
09:01<marc>skimming over it I was, but have missed probably
09:05<marc>o_cee ... couldn't see anything that made me stop in the doc..?
09:05<o_cee>then i'm probaly wrong
09:06<marc>thanks anyway
09:07<o_cee>;/
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09:51<oc>QMYSQLResult::data: column 13 out of range <-- what does that one mean?
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09:55<o_cee>:\
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10:15<mrallen>during 'mythfilldatabase' i'm getting a bunch of 'Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file'
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10:45<duende>I need a bit of install help with mythtv. I'm running gentoo, and i'm following docs on the site pretty carefully (as far as i know). I'm to the point now where i'm suppose to run mythsetup, but the program fails with various SQL errors such as "QSqlDatabase warning : QMYSQL3 driver not loaded", "Unable to connect to database", etc. (there's about 11 lines of errors/warnings). Does anyone have any idea?
10:45<tzanger>What kind of processor requirements are there for a mythtv client? Does the video get encoded/decoded on it or?
10:55<duende>i don't understand why this won't work
10:56<jkolb>duende: You probably didn't have 'mysql' in your USE flags when you emerged qt.
10:56<duende>ahh
10:56<duende>thank you so much jkolb
10:56<jkolb>np
10:56<duende>i compiled qt yesterday
10:57<jkolb>cat /var/db/pkg/x11-libs/qt-<version>/USE to see what your flags were when you emerged it.
10:58<duende>jkolb: yeah, no mysql in there
10:58<duende>the QMYSQL3 should have been a goo dhint to me
10:58<jkolb>You'll need to emerge it again, then.
10:58<duende>yeah, i'm emerging now
10:58<jkolb>See you in a few hours.
10:58<duende>qt is pretty quick for me
10:59<duende>Xfree takes me about an hour
10:59<tzanger>I want to take that weather app and make a regular Qt app out of it :-)
10:59<jkolb>Wow.
10:59<jkolb>What proc?
10:59<duende>nothing special
10:59<duende>athlon xp 1800+
10:59<duende>surprises me too
10:59<duende>but i timed it yesterday
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11:29<mrallen>how does myth do clients? iow, how do diskless mythtv clients talk to the server?
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13:14<tzanger>Will something like a VIA C3 system work for a mythtv frontend (single TV, AC3 passthrough) i.e. will it be able ot record live tv?
13:25<tmk>if you set it to low-res
13:25<tmk>the cpus are too weak for full-res video
13:26<tzanger>so 704x480 or whatever is out of the question. damn.
13:27<tmk>oh yeah
13:27<tmk>you're lookin like 320x240
13:27<tzanger>what about underclocking a 1200+ AMD?
13:27<tmk>underclocking?
13:27<tzanger>yeah
13:27<lythe>heh
13:27<tzanger>so I can run passive cooling on it
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13:28<jkolb>tzanger: What sort of capture card are you planning on having in this machine?
13:28<Chutt>a nehemiah m10k is ok as a frontend with a pvr-250
13:28<tmk>hey chutt: do you have your 350 hooked up to a TV
13:28<Chutt>not at the moment
13:28<tzanger>jkolb: I only have a BT878 card right now. eventually I want to do DVB capture since I am on ExpressVu (in Canada)
13:29<vektor>tzanger: Are you familiar with the issues of decrypting DVB content for ExpressVu?
13:29<tmk>hmm
13:30<tmk>i read a report that the decoder code in CVS works
13:30<tmk>much to my surprise
13:30<tmk>since it doesn't for me (it's choppy)
13:30<vektor>I have seen some of these add-on PCI cards for the encryption cardreader things, but I'm still unclear on whether or not it actually works in Linux with ExpressVu.
13:30<tmk>i'm wondering if it's a slow-box issue
13:30<vektor>The kernel-dvb driver is all done by PAL users who receive non-encrypted content.
13:30<tzanger>vektor: yeah but these DVB cards take the CAM (they're like $700 from Germany IIRC) -- so it's a "plain" DVB signal once it's done
13:31<vektor>So you'd buy some CAM module, am I getting this right?
13:31<tzanger>well no I'd use the CAM (smart card) from my current expressvu receiver
13:31<tzanger>I am a paying subscriber
13:32<vektor>Yeah but then you need a place to stick the card :)
13:32<vektor>I mean, I don't think the Hauppauge DVB card comes with one by default.
13:32<vektor>It's something you have to purchase separately.
13:32<tzanger>vektor: yes, they have a slot
13:32<vektor>Oh?
13:32<tzanger>yeah let me see if I can dig up a link
13:32<vektor>So, then why aren't more people using this? :)
13:32* vektor feels like buying one.
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13:36<mechou>hey, choenig, how are you doing?
13:36<choenig>fine :-)
13:37<choenig>mechou: did you make any advance ?
13:37<mechou>choenig, I gave up trying getting wol to work on k7s5a
13:37<choenig>sad
13:37<choenig>and how about the bios stuff?
13:37<mechou>figured out any short can restart computer, which was what happened yesterday.
13:38<mechou>nvram is also sad....
13:38<choenig>why?
13:38<mechou>do I need to call hwclock -systohc if I'm using ntp?
13:39<mechou>nvram complains my linux system is not in sync with rtc....
13:39<tzanger>http://www.dvb-portal.de/oscn/modules.php?name=oscn_catalog&file=advanced_search_result.php&keywords=PCI&x=0&y=0
13:39<tzanger>I thought it was one of those, but neither show a daughercard for the CAM
13:39<choenig>mechou: don't know, never had any issues like that
13:39<tzanger>actually the TT-DVBsat PCI 1.3 seems to show it
13:40<mechou>and thats absolutely correct in the case of ntp, Bios clock only gets read on startup (and written on shutdown)
13:40<tzanger>but Seca, Alphacrypt and Viaaccess (no nagravision)
13:40<Chutt>there.
13:41<Chutt>mostly have the cle266 decoder working
13:41<mechou>choenig, are you using ntp on your systems?
13:41<choenig>mechou: and it works after you syched it?
13:41<choenig>yes
13:41<choenig>on all of'em
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13:41<vektor>tzanger: I just get worried when it's so hard to find canadian companies that sell these cards.
13:42<mechou>choenig, so your rtc is alwas in sync with ntp time???
13:42<choenig>mechou: I don't know, I never tested that
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13:43<tzanger>yeah
13:43<mechou>are you in front of one of the comps that has nvram and ntp?
13:43<choenig>mechou: i don't know how to get the rtc time
13:43<choenig>mechou: nope, as I said, I cannot use nvram stuff due to my epox board, which is not supported...
13:43<choenig>mechou: but I used to use it with the one before
13:43<mechou>ok, do "nvram-wakeup -D" and tell me what's on the last 4 lines
13:44<mechou>oh, sorry....
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13:44<choenig>but I'll check again, if smth changed... hold on
13:46<choenig>oh I hate that sf.net crap
13:47<tzanger>damned nagravision
13:48<mechou>choenig, because rtc on most systems is notoriously inaccurate, I think possibly wol (with ntp) is a better sol'n. I'm going to change out the k7s5a...
13:49<choenig>mechou: thats right, my systems are off > 1 min/day
13:49<mechou>and I don't think it's ntp's "job" to keep rtc to millisecond accuracy....
13:50<mechou>that's the whole point of using ntp, right? :)
13:50<choenig>its the problem, when the computer is off. when its on you don't have to care about the rtc
13:51<choenig>a nice little external clock which you set from the computer would be a neat sollution
13:51<mechou>this wakeup stuff is much more a PITA than I originally imagined, mostly because of this POS k7s5a....
13:52<mechou>so this is going take me a while ;)
13:53<choenig>have you tried diff'rent bios versions? in the usenet I read, that that could help
13:54<mechou>I tried scouring newsnet regarding the m/b. a lot of puzzled people wondering if wol works on m/b at all. Nothing real dinitive, like someone saying "I got wol to work this way...."
13:54<choenig>yeah, thats what I read, too
13:55<mikegrb>hmmm any recommendations on a command line tool to capture an image from a V4L source?
13:56<tzanger>what are (in your opinions') best choices for full-res vid cap cards
13:56<Chutt>pvr-250/350
13:57<Chutt>easily =)
13:57<tzanger>that's the hauppage card?
13:58<mikegrb>ahh got it with v4lctrl
13:58<Chutt>yup
13:58<Chutt>good quality, no cpu usage on recording
13:58<tzanger>hmm
13:58<Chutt>slightly higher playback requirements
13:59<Chutt>and slightly higher storage requirements, but, that's more than offset by the hardware encoding
14:00<mechou>choenig, it would be nice if nvram-wakeup was smart enough to look in the drift file and set rtc w/o regard wheter it is in sync with system time. It just needs to be "close"
14:00<mechou>when the system is up,that is....
14:01<jkolb>Chutt: The CLE266 is the via on-board decoder?
14:01<Chutt>yup.
14:01<Chutt>well, it's the chipset name
14:01* Chutt stayed up late last night.
14:02<jkolb>See Mars?
14:02<Chutt>no, i was slaving over a hot computer to get that crap working
14:02<Chutt>:p
14:02<jkolb>I flew back from Oregon and went straight from the airport to the observatory. Still got there too late to use the big scope.
14:03<jkolb>They only had it open until midnight.
14:03<mechou>what observatory in OR??
14:03<jkolb>Flew back from OR. To Orlando. Went to the observatory at UCF.
14:03<mikegrb>jkolb: we went to myrtle beach this last weekend, saw it from the beach :)
14:03<mechou>oh...
14:04<jkolb>I asked around while in OR, and noone there seemed to think there was one.
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14:04<mechou>yeah, Iknow, I used to live there...
14:04<engie>Hi. Where can I get the .deb packages from? Thanks
14:04<jkolb>I tried to spot if from the plane, but I was on the wrong side.
14:04<choenig>mechou: why don't you simply call hwclock right before the nvram-stuff?
14:05<mechou>generally the plexiglass windows would be too scratchy for than anyways...
14:06<jkolb>The windows weren't too bad, and Mars was really bright from the ground, so I would imagine that it would have been really nice from the air. I would have gotten a really nice view were I allowed in the cockpit.
14:06<mechou>choenig, I could, but won't that though off ntp drif file on subsequent reboots?? Not an expert on this stuff....
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14:07<marc>hello
14:07<marc>I have a bit of a problem with mythfrontend: it does not display any texts at all
14:07<jkolb>I used 'really' too many times in that last msg.
14:08<marc>just noticed it outputs errormessages referring to 'QTextParag::Lineinfo'
14:08<choenig>mechou: I don't know, but I don't think that that should be a problem. but I'm not an expert either
14:10<mechou>choenig, yeah, I don't think it should be too big a problem. probably setting rtc through ntpdc would be safest (makes coreections to drift file at the same time)....
14:12<mechou>jkolb, whereabout in OR were u? The good thing in OR is that there isn't much light pollution not far from the cities....
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14:13<jkolb>Eugene. Had to fix some problems that the Ducks were having with one of our systems.
14:13<mechou>don't know about cloud cover and turbulence, though....
14:14<jkolb>Noone that I talked to had access to any sort of telescope.
14:14<mechou>did you check the astronomy dept at UO? (don't know if there is one...)
14:14<jkolb>School isn't in session there or anything, so it was really just the football team around, and they're not generally known for being avid stargazers.
14:15<mechou>hehe, not those stars, but other heavenly bodies...
14:17<marc>anybody on my text problem?
14:23<marc>sorry guys - didn't want to break your chat ;-)
14:24<mechou>choenig, if I wanted to use wol for mythtv, I'd like to use my file server as alarm clock. mysql & myth isn't installed on that. What sw do I need on the fileserver?
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14:29<choenig>mechou: I only need 'at' daemon and (x)inetd
14:29<choenig>thats all
14:29<choenig>and wol of course =)
14:29<mechou>cool. so the "alarm" script gets pumped to the fileserver from MBE via netcat?
14:30<choenig>right
14:30<choenig>as I wrote int that little README
14:30<mechou>yeah, just doublechecking....
14:30<choenig>ok
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14:32<mechou>the other day I recorded two programs at the same time. One was 1 hr, the other was 2hr. unfortunatly the 1hr prog. got recorded on MBE, and 2hr prog on SBE
14:33<mechou>so both systems needed to stay up for 2 hrs, whereas theoretically one could have shut off after 1 hr.
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14:34<choenig>my stuff doesn't see diff'rent BEs as diff'rent machines. It treats them like one. I think its to hard to distinguish for that
14:34<mechou>chutt say the tuner affinity in this case had to do with the chanid, lower channels gets assigned to the 1 available tuner.
14:35<mechou>right, I wondering with the ranking stuff this behavir could be changed. Longest program gets 1st available tuner....
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14:43<mechou>help names
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15:41<o_cee>erhm
15:41<o_cee>Kenneth not here, no?
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15:57<harrih>Hello, anyone else have a problem with frontend freezing (rebuffering all over and over again) after fast forward
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16:22<monkeyBox>Strange, I just transcoded a MPEG2 tv show recorded from PVR-250 and now the sound isn't working on that recording. I used the default settings for transcode.. any ideas?
16:23<tmk>there was a thread about that on the mailing-list
16:23<tmk>did you set the audio to the same settings as the pvr file?
16:23<monkeyBox>tmk: umm, not sure.. I had it set to mp3 in the transcode profile
16:24<monkeyBox>how would I know what the original pvr file used?
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16:35<monkeyBox>The recording profile used was MPEG4/MP3..
16:35<monkeyBox>any ideas as to why the sound wouldn't work after transcoding?
16:36<Chutt>read the mailing lists.
16:36<Chutt>this was _just_ on there
16:38<monkeyBox>hmm.. ok I searched for transcode no sound... the first post that came up was unreplied.. I'll keep browsing..
16:38<tmk>pvr is 48khz, 16bi, 384kbps
16:39<monkeyBox>tmk: oh I see.. so I need to set it to the same as that?
16:39<tmk>i think that's what hte mailing list said
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16:39<monkeyBox>I'm curious, where are those settings stored in the database? I looked at the recordingprofiles table but there was only 4 fields..
16:39<tmk>dunno, the PVR cards are kind of special
16:40<tmk>Chutt: have you considered sucking out the mpg frames and putting it in .nuv format?
16:40<Chutt>no real reason to
16:40<Chutt>i did originally think about that
16:41<tmk>k
16:44<monkeyBox>Chutt: is this the thread you were talking about? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/no_sound_in_the_autotranscoded_nuvs_P78168/
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16:59<tmk>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=78098;search_string=transcode%20pvr;guest=1086684&t=search_engine
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17:03<monkeyBox>oh ok... I was looking at that one as well.. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get home to play with it.
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17:21<monkeyBox>Oh sweet... I had no idea there was a knoppix MythTV!! now I can pop it into my other windows commputers and really test out the frontend capabilities
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17:24<tmk>what's knoppix?
17:25<sfr>tmk: a plug and play debian :)
17:25<tmk>i see.
17:25<tmk>how does that involve windows?
17:25<sfr>tmk: i said plug and play
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17:27<sfr>tmk: as it's fully usable when booted from cd, but a hdd install is also possible
17:28<tmk>ah
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17:35<mikegrb>Chutt: you still around?
17:41<jarodwilson>note that the knoppMyth CD doesn't have ivtv driver though
17:41<jarodwilson>The CD creator doesn't have a card, so he hasn't included support
17:41<jarodwilson>He's got an AVerTV Studio, I believe.
17:47<tmk>a shame
17:48<tmk>everyone should use ivtv!
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18:03<knight->hey
18:05<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch: if you're around or get this in scroll back I have the http status server doo hickie now reporting if each encoder is active
18:06<mikegrb>heh guess he won't see it though <g>.... he isn't aruond
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18:09<knight->damn this hauppage grey remote :P
18:09<tmk>knight-: there's lirc configs in the utils/ dir for it
18:10<knight->yep, i am using them :)
18:10<knight->irw shows the keys
18:10<knight->mythfrontend connects to lircd
18:10<knight->although, nothing happens when i use the remote in mythfrontend
18:10<knight->is ~/.mythtv/lircrc the same as ~/.lircrc?
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18:39<knight->hmm
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18:47<knight->yeah something is weird about native lirc on my system
18:47<knight->irxevent works
18:51<knight->oh maybe mythtv bound against /usr/lib/liblirc_client* and not /usr/local/lib/liblirc_client*
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19:13<jarodwilson>Yes, tmk, everyone SHOULD use ivtv!
19:13<tmk>:)
19:13<jarodwilson>And the grey hauppauge remote work perfectly when set up right.
19:13<jarodwilson>:)
19:14<jarodwilson>Frankly, I'm finding all other cards to be relative junk, compared w/the PVR-x50s
19:14<n1hck>so if anyone is wondering.. PCHDTV card is awsome
19:14<jarodwilson>(I have 3 other cards besides the PVR-250, and thy all suck)
19:14<n1hck>but working with an ivtv card at the same time
19:14<n1hck>is sketchy
19:14<tmk>cool, what resolution does it capture at?
19:14<n1hck>1920x1088
19:14<n1hck>all 18 ASTC digital formans
19:14<jarodwilson>That would be the only other card I'd take over a PVR-x50
19:14<n1hck>formats
19:14<n1hck>but thats the highest
19:14<tmk>is it mpg2 or what
19:15<jarodwilson>I'm planning on getting one soon too...
19:15<n1hck>well ivtv card and pchdtv dont like to do stuff at the same time so I have to reboot to switch back to the other one
19:15<jarodwilson>hdtv is streamed in mpeg2
19:15<tmk>yeah that's what i thought
19:15<n1hck>so by default I boot with ivtv but if I want I switch to hdtv and if i want to switch back i have to reboot
19:15<jarodwilson>so the card doesn't even have to encode; just write to disk
19:15<tmk>you can't just rmmod ivtv?
19:15<jarodwilson>Huh.
19:15<n1hck>here is what I do
19:15<n1hck>boot with ivtv
19:15<jarodwilson>I'll have to see if I can't get both working at once...
19:15<n1hck>ok i wanna do hdtv now
19:16<n1hck>rmmod ivtv modprobe bttv (modified for dtv stuff) the pchdtv driver
19:16<n1hck>ok hdtv stuff. now I want ivtv stuff back
19:16<n1hck>rmmod bttv
19:16<n1hck>modprobe ivtv
19:16<tmk>oh ok
19:16<n1hck>capture mpeg CRASHES
19:16<n1hck>so I found rebooting at this point allows ivtv to work again
19:16<tmk>hm. define crashes
19:16<n1hck>lock up machine
19:16<tmk>what error
19:16<n1hck>ivtv itself crashes and locks my machine completley
19:16<n1hck>no error
19:16<n1hck>just FREEZ
19:16<tmk>well, it probably generates an oops of some kind
19:16<n1hck>I hear a blip of audio and a FREEZ and thats that
19:16<jarodwilson>Not good.
19:16<n1hck>probably
19:17<tmk>n1hck, are you near that box now?
19:17<tmk>i have some new code that might fix the crash
19:17<n1hck>in any case, im sure they will work better once dtv stuff is in bttv and when ivtv matures im sure it will be better
19:17<n1hck>I am
19:17<jarodwilson>Is it possible both are trying to use /dev/video0 in some incompatible way?
19:17<n1hck>I am actually
19:17<n1hck>I dont know
19:17<tmk>msg me your email address
19:17<n1hck>tmk
19:17<tmk>i'll send you new code
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19:17<n1hck>i dialouged you tmk
19:17<tmk>i answered
19:17<tmk>:)
19:20<knight->n1hck, dtv stuff?
19:21<knight->jarodwilson, i copied ivtv/utils/lircd-g.conf to /etc/lircd.conf and it works fine with irw, but mythfrontend doesnt even move... i copied lircrc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc too
19:22<jarodwilson>your lircrc file should actually go in ~/.lircrc
19:22<knight->i have it there too
19:22<jarodwilson>make sure irxevent is started
19:23<knight->uhhh
19:23<jarodwilson>then everything SHOULD work
19:23<knight->i'm talking about native lirc
19:23<jarodwilson>Aha.
19:23<knight->irxevent works fine
19:23<jarodwilson>My mistake.
19:23<jarodwilson>I haven't played w/native yet
19:23<knight->ahh
19:23<jarodwilson>Where is your lircrc from?
19:23<knight->ivtv
19:24<jarodwilson>The one I'm thinking of relies on irxevent, but then I haven't looked at recent versions...
19:24<knight->right, so is there a native mythtv lircrc version?
19:25<jarodwilson>Not sure yet. I'm sure someone has one, otherwise there'd be no way to test the functionality...
19:25<knight->right
19:25<jarodwilson>But the one from ivtv most likely won't cut it, since everything relies on irxevent
19:25<Chutt>posted to the mailing list along with the initial native lirc patch.
19:25<jarodwilson>I'm not sure what changes are needed.
19:25<jarodwilson>Aha.
19:25<knight->Chutt, ah thanks
19:26<jarodwilson>Is the lirc patch included in 0.11?
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19:26<Chutt>yup.
19:27<mattfelsen>i'm still getting blocky fonts in myth...i installed msttcorefonts and set up defoma (added the font paths) but no luck. i think it might be the actual font files though because the sasquatch osd, which uses its own tahoma.ttf, looks fine
19:27<jarodwilson>So just drop in a new lircrc, and I should be golden, right? :)
19:28<Chutt>amazing, things compile again
19:28<sc00p>speaking of native lirc support, does anyone know how to get Page_Up and Page_Down working properly?
19:28<knight->jarod, as long as you enabled lirc
19:28<Chutt>now time to see if they work.
19:28<knight->in settings.pro
19:28<jarodwilson>Ah.
19:28<Chutt>the 0.11 rpms don't, i don't think.
19:28<jarodwilson>I'm running it from the 0.11 ATrpms
19:29<jarodwilson>I'll talk to Axel and see about cutting some rpms w/native lirc enabled
19:29<mattfelsen>well if we're on the subject of lirc...do the keys [, ], and | have names that are supposed to be used in .lircrc?
19:29<mattfelsen>channel up/down works, but volume up/down/mute doesn't
19:29<mattfelsen>and yea, i checked button names to make sure
19:30<knight->fyi, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=1647;guest=1087369&t=search_engine is the link to the lircrc file included with the initial native lirc patch
19:30<knight->to be placed in ~/.mythtv
19:31<jarodwilson>danke
19:31<mattfelsen>oh, and on the blocky font note...the sasquatch osd looks nice and smooth, but the normal theme is blocky like the others
19:32<knight->but it doesnt seem to help
19:32<knight->still no response from mythfrontend
19:32<jarodwilson>Hm...
19:36<mattfelsen>and back to lirc...where is a list of key names that are supposed to be used?
19:37<knight->lircd.conf
19:37<knight->and keys.txt
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19:39<mattfelsen>no, the key names for .lircrc
19:39<mattfelsen>like...i have "config = Key [ CurrentWindow" for one of the buttons, but it has no effect
19:39<mattfelsen>so i'm assuming that i need to use something like "Key LeftBracket CurrentWindow" or such
19:42<jarodwilson>most likely...
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19:51<jarodwilson>The lirc docs are quite lacking with respect to what keys should be called...
19:51<mattfelsen>yea, that's what i thought
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19:57<knight->anyone else getting HEADER ERRORs with latest cvs?
19:57<Chutt>you didn't do what it said in the commit message
19:57<Chutt>=)
19:58<knight->:) which commit message
19:58<Chutt>the only one today
19:58<Chutt>i even cc'd it to the -dev list so people would see
19:59<mattfelsen>Chutt: is there a reason my keybindings patch never got committed?
19:59<Chutt>because i've been busy
19:59<Chutt>and i never got around to it
19:59<mattfelsen>no prob, just wondering
19:59<mattfelsen>does anyone have volume, mute, page up/down working with lirc?
20:00<mattfelsen>i can't figure out the button names for any of those
20:00<mattfelsen>or key names, rather
20:00<knight->ahh distclean
20:00<knight->ok
20:02<mattfelsen>is there a difference between clean and distclean?
20:03<sc00p>mattfelsen: are you using irxevent or the native lirc support?
20:03<mattfelsen>irxevent for now
20:03<knight->i'm using native
20:03<sc00p>for irxevent, mute is Shift-bar
20:04<sc00p>volume is bracketleft, bracketright
20:04<mattfelsen>ah, cool
20:04<mattfelsen>with that case?
20:04<knight->just look in the lircrc i posted the url to
20:04<sc00p>yeah
20:04<mattfelsen>knight-: it said the attachment didn't exist
20:05<knight->sure it does
20:05<knight->if you were using wget, put quotes around the url
20:05<knight->since it has amp's
20:05<mattfelsen>can you post the link again?
20:05<knight->http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=1647;guest=1087369&t=search_engine
20:06<mattfelsen>same error
20:06<knight->heh you're doing something wrong then :)
20:07<knight->just look for the initial native lirc post
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20:10<jarodwilson>I clicked the link in X-Chat, and the attachment just downloaded. :)
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20:10<knight->:)
20:14<mattfelsen>hmm PgUp/PgDown don't work
20:15<sc00p>for irxevent it's Page_Up, Page_Down
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20:24<mattfelsen>are the key names different for irxevent vs. native lirc?
20:24<sc00p>yup =\
20:24<sc00p>some of them are the same, but in general they're different
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20:40<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch: you around?
20:45<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch: ping
20:45<ahbritto>whoops
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21:07<jarodwilson>stupid power...
21:10<tmk>is that like super-power?
21:12<jarodwilson>not quite. anti-super-power, maybe...
21:12<jarodwilson>Crappy wiring, too many computers on one circuit...
21:13<jarodwilson>I really need a dedicated 30A for my office... :)
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21:28<Chutt>heh
21:28<Chutt>so 18 hojillion people wrote in when via put out their version of xine with the decoder support
21:29<Chutt>i get that mostly working, and ..... nothing
21:33<tmk>eh?
21:33<knight->eh?
21:34* bbeattie gives Chutt kudos
21:35<mikegrb>Chutt: I have an int I want to send to the front end like this "SendResponse(pbssock, retlist)" can I just say "QStringList retlist = MyInt;" or will that cause a type problem?
21:35<bbeattie>sometimes not hearing anything should be a nice reward.
21:37<mikegrb>ahhh QString::number(MyInt)
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21:44<FryGuy>anyone see the slashdot article about the EPIA M decoder being reverse engineered?
21:44<mikegrb>didn't see that, read the site though
21:44<FryGuy>http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/0052217&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156&tid=188
21:44<FryGuy>my obligatory reference to mythtv too :)
21:45<Chutt>the decoder wasn't reverse engineered.
21:45<Chutt>i've said that 3 fucking times on the mailing list now
21:45<mikegrb>Chutt: :-)
21:45<Chutt>a little wrapper library that talks to a binary kernel modules was decompiled.
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21:45<Chutt>whoop-de-frickin-do
21:46<FryGuy>bleh
21:46<mikegrb>they just did the library not the kernel module, right?
21:46<FryGuy>oh well.
21:46<mikegrb>yes
21:46<FryGuy>The lesser EPIA's have decoder cards, right?
21:46<FryGuy>not just the nememiah?
21:46<Chutt>the library is utterly useless without the kernel module
21:46<Chutt>it's any epia-m
21:47<FryGuy>so the 450Mhz one then?
21:47<Chutt>is that an -m?
21:48<FryGuy>I guess not
21:48<Chutt>i'm only familar with the nehemiah
21:48<jarodwilson>The decoder only works on EPIAs w/ the CLE266 chipset
21:48<jarodwilson>slower EPIAs have a different chipset
21:49<jarodwilson>and it is NOT supported.
21:49<jarodwilson>bbeattie: You said I should find you here if I wanted a pcHDTV card...
21:49<jarodwilson>Well, I WANT!
21:51<Chutt>jarod, you shouldn't select 'hardware mjpeg' as the codec with a pvr-250
21:52<tmk>why does everyone seem to do that
21:53<Chutt>i dunno
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21:53<jarodwilson>?
21:53<jarodwilson>What am I missing?
21:54<Chutt>mpeg2 is not mjpeg
21:54<jarodwilson>(I'm not looking at my system w/PVR-250 in it...)
21:54<jarodwilson>ack.
21:54<jarodwilson>uno momento...
21:54<Chutt>for pvr-250 encodes, it doesn't matter yet which one you select
21:54<Chutt>as the only thing that gets used is the resolution
21:54<Chutt>setting it to hardware mjpeg means you can't use a normal card in the system along with it
21:55<Chutt>captain_murdoch, hey, ya here?
21:55<jarodwilson>Oh. I feel like a dumb-ass.
21:55<jarodwilson>(I was very confused for a sec, cuz that's what I had on my PVR-250 system; I just checked)
21:56* bbeattie curses dvi
21:57<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: you around?
21:57<Chutt>captain_murdoch, how annoyed would you be if i committed something that may break commercial detection? =)
21:58<mikegrb>heh
21:59<Captain_Murdoch_>yeah
22:00<Captain_Murdoch_>chutt break how? something I could fix easily? I'm heading out of town for a while and won't have myth access while I'm gone.
22:00<Chutt>i'm re-doing the video buffer internals
22:00<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch_: I noticed commerical detection is flaky on Oxygen: la femme nikita, xena, and movies.
22:00<Chutt>i think i've got everything fixed
22:00<jarodwilson>Well, that Dana guy still needs to do some reading before spamming up the lists... :)
22:01<jarodwilson>I replied to myself, confessing my stupidity...
22:01<Chutt>i already did
22:01<Chutt>no worries :p
22:01<jarodwilson>;p
22:01<jarodwilson>I need to switch from digest mode, I think...
22:02<Chutt>oh
22:02<Chutt>i don't see anything different in the config for the two lists and digest mode
22:03<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: I've just about got a new query the backend will recognize for see if recordings are in progress... my code works for the HTTP status stuff (it prints if each encorder is encoding or not) but I'm getting a compile error on the exact same code in my HandleIsRecording function... mind looking at the patch?
22:03<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt, I'll take a quick look once you commit. I've been working on logo detection recently to try to help eliminate some false positives.
22:03<Captain_Murdoch_>mikegrb, sure if you want to email it to me.
22:04<mikegrb>okay, what address?
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22:04<jarodwilson>w/digest mode, it'll be a while before enough messages accumulate, and I get a digest w/that message in it.
22:04<Captain_Murdoch_>cpinkham@bc2va.org
22:06<Captain_Murdoch_>ahbritto: flakey comm detection how?
22:06<ahbritto>lots of false positives.
22:06<Captain_Murdoch_>so it skips part of the show?
22:07<ahbritto>yes
22:07<Captain_Murdoch_>does it have blank frames between shows or what?
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22:08<Captain_Murdoch_>I have that network on satellite but not on cable and my myth boxes are only connected to cable.
22:08<ahbritto>Actually, i didn't make a note of that, but it does work for some of the breaks.
22:08<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: sent... right now it returns the number of in progress recordings but the line sent from the frontend is passed to the function so I figured default action would be return the number and if there were arguments that could ask for other stuff eg details of what is being recorded like you were interested in
22:08<ahbritto>I will pay more attention in the future.
22:09<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch_: Would you like me to place a few shows on a web server for download?
22:09<Captain_Murdoch_>ahbritto: just trying to figure out why it's messing up. do you recall what kind of logo that station uses?
22:10<ahbritto>Extra-bright (whitish) small in the lower right corner.
22:11<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: I'm sure the compile problem is simple but I'm not certain what is causing it.... it complains abt a function not existing, I guess a possibility is it isn't in the header as the HTTP stuff is at the bottom so the function would still be defined first
22:11<Captain_Murdoch_>ahbritto: might just be a good idea to wait until I commit the logo detection stuff and see if that helps out. is the logo opaque or transparent?
22:11<mikegrb>I'm gonna check that
22:11<ahbritto>Transparent
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22:13<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch_: Thanks. I'll wait... :)
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22:13<Captain_Murdoch_>mikegrb, what function?
22:15<Captain_Murdoch_>nevermind. you need a capital 'I' on the isBusy.
22:15<mikegrb>agh
22:15<mikegrb>thank you mucho :-)
22:15<Chutt>captain_murdoch, committed stuff
22:16<Chutt>basically, i made the videooutput class own the video buffers
22:16<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: I thought I copy n' pasted it from my trial run with the http stuff oh well <g>
22:16<mikegrb>thank you very much
22:16<Chutt>and made a VideoOutputNull class for stuff that's not actually displaying (like your commercial detection code)
22:17<mikegrb>Captain_Murdoch_: I'm going to finish this tonight if I have to not go to sleep :)
22:17<Chutt>it works for preview pixmaps/video, but i didn't test the commercial detector
22:17<Chutt>but the changes were pretty minor, so it shouldn't be an issue
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22:17<Captain_Murdoch_>chutt, I'll go update and run comm detection on a show comparing new results to original.
22:17<Chutt>thanks =)
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22:21<Captain_Murdoch>ahbritto: do you run CVS?
22:21<ahbritto>Not usually, not for myth, but I could.
22:21<Chutt>current cvs may be a tad unstable
22:22<newman234>hey guys i have 2 questions ... 1) I don't have the /etc/init.d/lircd file but everything seems to be installed and 2) Although i can successfully test my remote using irw, i get an error message from irxevent saying it can't find the config file .. any ideas?
22:22<Chutt>i've committed quite a bit of crap today
22:22<Captain_Murdoch>just curious. I'll probably put the logo detection stuff in CVS in about a week and a half. don't think I'll get to it before I have to go out of town.
22:23<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch: Would I need cvs, or could I just replace the file in v0.11?
22:23<newman234>btw i have myth tv up and running... with out the remote of course because of the failure of the irwevent app
22:23<Captain_Murdoch>it's modifying about 3 files and I doubt they'd be compatible with 0.11 since there's been a few changes including Chutt's stuff just now.
22:25<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch: I have a few machines, I can compile with cvs on one, just to do commerical detection testing.
22:25<ahbritto>Whenever you're ready...
22:25<Captain_Murdoch>ok. I'll try to let you know when I've got that in so you can test oxygen.
22:26<ahbritto>Also, bravo seems unreliable.
22:26<Captain_Murdoch>ok, I have that. I'll try to find something to record and test.
22:26<ahbritto>try the west wing.
22:26<kja>yeay, finally my myth was stable enough to build a release version, horray ;)
22:26<ahbritto>Captain_Murdoch: thanks again. :)
22:26<Chutt>kja, so is that dvb stuff stable?
22:27<Chutt>i've been not applying patches since i was breaking everything
22:29<Chutt>kja, oh, and you didn't include a link in your latest dvb patch
22:31<kja>it's very good here, but i'll run it for some days just to verify..
22:31<kja>thanks for the reminder, fixed now :)
22:31<Chutt>in the email announcing it, i meant
22:31<kja>yea, just replyed to it =)
22:33<kja>i also have some reports that it has some problems on DVB-T/C
22:33<Chutt>oh, are you still using the xvmc stuff?
22:33<Chutt>i'll have that fixed up so it can still play back software encodes soon
22:34<kja>no, haven't tried it in a bit...are down to just over 10% load on the normal output, so...
22:34<Chutt>ah
22:35<kja>but what the heck, now that i'm running a stable system, it would be a refreshment to have some bugs in there again :)
22:39<kja>i'm pondering on whether expanded cam support or dvb hardware decoding should be my next *thing*
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23:28<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: still here?
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23:31<bline>wow, first time I've been emailed personally about code I did..
23:33<Captain_Murdoch>wait till you start getting "when are you gonna write feature XYZ" emails. :)
23:35<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt, commercial detection still seems to work as normal except for the fact that it now prints that "Over/underscanning" message. Can we only print that if winw and winh are non-zero in VideoOutput::Init()
23:39<bline>it was about the lirc stuff, i cced the users list
23:40<bline>kinda wish I didn't abuse qkeysequence now..
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23:42<linagee>does anyone know why when you run out of disk space and go to delete a show why it hangs at the "Are you sure you want to delete this show?" screen?
23:42<linagee>is that a linux thing or a mythtv thing?
23:42<Chutt>captain_murdoch, yah, that's cool.
23:43<linagee>(i know linux itself probably doesn't like you running out of disk space entirely...)
23:45<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: you want to commit or me to? that would print every time the flagging thread ran that's why it needs to be suppressed.
23:46<Captain_Murdoch>linagee: is it a 0-byte file?
23:46<Captain_Murdoch>shouldn't matter I guess.
23:56<Chutt>go ahead and commit it
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23:58<o_cee>kenneth?
23:58<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: ok
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