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#mythtv IRC Logs for 2003-08-29

---Logopened Fri Aug 29 00:00:02 2003
00:01<linagee>Captain_Murdoch: it's probably just linux acting up. having 0 bytes free is not the best thing in the world to be doing
00:02<linagee>Captain_Murdoch: although i was getting "Not enough free buffers" (repeated) from the ivtv module, so that may have something to do with mythtv locking
00:02<linagee>(ivtv probably doesn't like zero bytes disk free either)
00:05<tmk>ivtv doesn't care much
00:05<tmk>it just fills up its buffers
00:05<tmk>then ignores any new stuff
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01:01<mikegrb>tmk what is the most compatable way to right stuff to an i2c bus?
01:02<mikegrb>I've got a device address and then the register address and the data I want to write all in my code I just need to write the data out
01:03<mikegrb>tracing through some other code that acomplished this is a very long string through many files :
01:03<mikegrb>:|
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03:08<jarodwilson>Chutt: whatcha think about a patch that adds a menu item to the codecs setup that says "I've got a PVR-x50", and the lower info screen explains that there are no options to set?
03:08<Chutt>doesn't work with multiple cards
03:08<jarodwilson>Or, even better, a lower info screen that lets you...
03:08<jarodwilson>oh, nevermind then.
03:08<jarodwilson>damn.
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03:09<jarodwilson>I assume you mean in the case of a system w/a PVR-x50 and a non-PVR-x50
03:09<Chutt>yes
03:09<jarodwilson>I thought I might be on to something for about 30 seconds there... :)
03:10<jarodwilson>So the grander solution would be codec settings on a per-card basis
03:10<Chutt>something like that
03:10<jarodwilson>but I assume that would be no trivial feat
03:11<jarodwilson>Or just leave it, since it works. :)
03:14<jarodwilson>Hm... So there are 3 options in that menu, but the docs say "Currently, MythTV supports two different video encoders, MPEG-4 and RTJPEG".
03:14<jarodwilson>Is that section of the docs out of date?
03:14<Chutt>probably
03:15<jarodwilson>I think I recall reading that when the PVR was only supported in CVS, and just assumed the 3rd option was for the PVR, since it said hardware in it...
03:16<jarodwilson>I'll see if I can scrounge up a doc patch for Robert.
03:29<Chutt>heh
03:29<Chutt>apparently my last commit broke stuff
03:29<Chutt>ah well
03:33<bline>heh imdb added some sort of protection
03:33<Chutt>funny
03:33<bline>your browser or proxy server isn't identifying itself and is blocked because we don't trust it to behave.
03:39<jarodwilson>Who's browser?
03:40<jarodwilson>(or more to the point, were you talking to me? I assume not...)
03:40<jarodwilson>But I do have measures in place to prevent me from being identified. :)
03:41<bline>no, this is with mythvideo trying to fetch imdb stuff
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03:44<Chutt>heh
03:44<Chutt>i always forget to plug the cvs server back in
03:45<bline>heh
03:46<bline>strange, telneting to the port on imdb and pasting url.toString() works
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03:50<Chutt>there, all fixed
03:52<bline>that error page pointed to this http://www.imdb.com/interfaces.html; maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to make it so mythvideo could use that
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03:53<Chutt>now it's all smart and switches between hardware decoding and software decoding depending on the file type
03:55<Chutt>ah well
03:55<Chutt>suppose i'll start it compiling on my m10k and go to bed =)
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04:01<jarodwilson>g'night! I'm off for z's too...
04:01<jarodwilson>(I really like my dual Athlon when it comes to compile time; if only I could code...)
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07:27<o_cee>uhm, is there a way to kill the ivtv drivers when they've crashed?
07:27<o_cee>modprobe -r ivtv
07:27<o_cee>ivtv: Device or resource busy
07:27<o_cee>ivtv: EOS interrupt not received! stopping anyway.
07:27<o_cee>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00008730
07:28<o_cee>from dmesg.. it's crashed..
07:29<o_cee>:\
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07:51<o_cee>Chutt?
07:55<o_cee>what's the channel table got to look like when using dvb?
07:56<o_cee>chanid/channum/freqid/sourceid..
07:57<o_cee>got 99/99/DVB/2. and in cardinput the DVB is sourceid 2. and dvb_channel.chanid and listingid = 99
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08:33<o_cee>:|
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09:58<monkeyBox>would it be possible to create a knoppix CD with just mythfrontend on it, without the need for a HD? Is there one already available?
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10:02<robertj>is there currently any way to convert the .npgs to a format windows can play?
10:03<robertj>or some othe reasonably easily obtainable codec
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10:42<monkeyBox>hmm.. maybe I'll just go ahead and make my own knoppix mythfrontend :)...
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12:03<o_cee>blergh
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12:24<kja>Chutt: the dvb code is reported working for dvb-c (was mostly the fellows setup(but i got in some improvements at the same time(only need confirmation from edward now..)))
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12:28<grassmunk>could someone tell me what this error means?
12:29<Chutt>kja, great
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12:29<kgrassmun>oops
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12:31<grassmunk> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
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12:34<kgrassmun>nevermind
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13:29<yebyen>would it be a monumental undertaking to add freebsd support to mythtv?
13:29<yebyen>like, something beyond my coding powers :)
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13:34<tmk>good day
13:36<jkolb>Figure anything out with the decoder?
13:41<Chutt>yebyen, probably not
13:42<yebyen>Chutt: hm, because i'm thinking about putting freebsd 5.1 on my mythtv box (it does other stuff besides mythtv)
13:42<yebyen>or not
13:42<yebyen>but
13:42<Chutt>i don't know about v4l
13:42<Chutt>but everything else should be easy.
13:42<Chutt>just a matter of different headers and stuff.
13:42<yebyen>heh
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13:46<tmk>i did
13:46<tmk>figure out the decoder
13:47<jkolb>Was it the 0-size requests?
13:48<tmk>no actually, i was sending data too fasat
13:48<tmk>i throttled it back a bit
13:48<tmk>and it was happy
13:49<tmk>i didn't send it faster than it requested it
13:49<tmk>but oh well
13:49<jkolb>Odd
13:53<tmk>yeah
13:53<tmk>i increased the data size of the working decoder software i wrote
13:53<tmk>and it had the same issues
13:53<tmk>i felt much better
13:54<Chutt>where's my mythtv patches!
13:54<Chutt>or something
13:58<jkolb>xmltv is giving me segfaults. :(
13:59<yebyen>heh
14:00<jkolb>The power went out the other day, and I don't have a UPS on that system. I think my filesystem may be screwed or something. It happened once before with reiser. I should have just stuck with ext3.
14:01<sfr>jkolb: xmltv also segfaulted for me when someone on #mythtv bbeattie? asked me to check the tv_grab_na grabber.
14:01<sfr>jkolb: a few days ago
14:02<jkolb>Really?
14:02<jkolb>Hm. How did you fix it?
14:02<sfr>jkolb: i use tv_grab_de :)
14:02<jkolb>I don't think I can do that.
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14:03<n1hck>tmk: hey man, did you get my e-mail about those ivtv drivers?
14:03<n1hck>tmk: that would solve the problem with the pchdtv driver
14:04<sfr>jkolb: how should i call tv_grab_na? i can test it again.
14:04<jkolb>Mine segfaults running tv_grab_na --configure
14:04<jkolb>After I select the source and it downloads the channel list, it just segfaults.
14:05<sfr>jkolb: what zip code and source?
14:05<jkolb>32765 2
14:05<jkolb>DirecTV Orlando
14:07<tmk>n1hck yeah.. you said something about unresolved symbols
14:07<n1hck>tmk: exactly
14:07<sfr>jkolb: segfaulted. Version: 0.5.17-1 (latest debian unstable package)
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14:07<tmk>the decoder code needs a little tweaking still
14:07<tmk>before it's smooth
14:07<n1hck>tmk: ahh ok..
14:07<tmk>n1hck: what symbols
14:07<tmk>n1hck that last comment was for chutt
14:07<jkolb>Uh, yay. I guess that means my system isn't corrupted.
14:07<n1hck>tmk: your regular drivers ive always been using, recompiled, installed and no unresolved symbols..so I figured it wasnt me but the code.
14:08<tmk>right
14:08<n1hck>tmk: ah sorry lol
14:08<tmk>what symbols were missing
14:08<n1hck>tmk: ahh ill have to check again im at work, logged in via ssh on BitchX cant do much from here
14:08<n1hck>tmk: ill e-mail you the results later tonight...
14:09<n1hck>tmk: at first I thought it was the kernel source or something maybe I changed something but your original drivers recompiled and ran fine so ... something is up... but youll get an e-mail from me tonight with exactly what I saw
14:09<tmk>thx
14:10<n1hck>tmk: no prob
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14:10<n1hck>tmk: talk to ya later
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14:11<jkolb>sfr: Can you run 'tv_grab_na --configure --debug'?
14:11<sfr>jkolb: sure
14:11<jkolb>I assume it's dying in the same place, but it'd be nice to be more sure, I suppose.
14:12<jkolb>I checked their mailing lists, and I didn't see anything about this, really.
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14:13<sfr>jkolb: Can't call method "summarize" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/XMLTV/ZapListings.pm line 1025, <STDIN> line 4
14:14<jkolb>Huh. Mine just gives me a segfault.
14:14<sfr>jkolb: and the last message was ==== success ===
14:15<jkolb>Yeah, I had ==== success ====\nSegmentation fault
14:15<sfr>jkolb: i used 32765 2 again
14:15<jkolb>As did I.
14:17* jkolb sighs
14:17<Chutt>works fine here
14:17<jkolb>Did you have to update any other libs when you updated to 0.5.17?
14:17<Chutt>i'm not using .17, though
14:18<jkolb>This happened with 0.5.16 as well, so I tried updating.
14:18<jkolb>Lemme downgrade again.
14:18<Chutt>heh
14:18<Chutt>i'm actually using .15
14:18<jkolb>.15 still works? For some reason, I didn't think it did.
14:18<Chutt>yup
14:18<jkolb>Huh.
14:20<jkolb>Did anything ever happen with zap2it or whatever that you asked me to wait for before talking about a db redesign?
14:24<Chutt>i haven't heard anything recently
14:25<jkolb>Were you told just that something was going to happen, or what?
14:27<Chutt>datadirect.zap2it.com
14:27<jkolb>Ah.
14:33<tmk>so chutt, you about to have some free cycles for mpg hardware decoding?
14:36<Chutt>still need to do the osd code.
14:38<tmk>so chutt, you about to have some free cycles for the OSD code?
14:38<Chutt>heh
14:38<Chutt>yeah
14:38<tmk>excellent!
14:38<poptix>heh
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14:46<schwin97>ls
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15:27<yebyen>woot
15:30<Chutt>yebyen, shouldn't you be moving in or something?
15:30<Chutt>i think my brother/parents drove up yesterday or something
15:32<yebyen>Chutt: to RIT? i move in sunday
15:32<Chutt>ah
15:32<yebyen>Chutt: i only live an hour from there, so it's not a big trip to get there
15:33<Chutt>aaah
15:33<Chutt>it's a 6/7 hour drive for them, i guess
15:33<yebyen>yeah, so it makes sense to go early :)
15:35<yebyen>Chutt: i'm living in the CS House, which is supposed to be prestigious in some way
15:36<Chutt>he's in the honor dorm or some crap
15:36<yebyen>aha
15:37<yebyen>"most wired dorm in the country" according to yahoo, heh
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16:17<bbeattie>hmm, my new ir keyboard picks up on my ir remotes.. I wonder if I could setup keytabs on the remote ir signals...
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16:43<tmk>chutt: just checked in working encode/decode at same time
16:43<tmk>no API yet...
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17:01<engie>Hi. I'm installing mythtv but at the mo my tuner is playing silly (Different chipset to advertised - not natively supported. grr!) Anyway, is it possible to run myth without access to a tuner card? I tried accepting the defaults but then it dies trying to get tuner info. Can I either tell it to ignore the lack of tuner, or create a dummy one that returns blackness for the time being?
17:01<engie>For now I'd quite like it just for the plugins
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17:04<hyperm>it doesnt let you go on ;/
17:04<hyperm>i had a similiar problem with a sound card
17:04<hyperm>it forces you to have a tv tuner
17:04<hyperm>before running ;/
17:05<engie>hmm
17:05<engie>Is it possible to make bttv play dead - create a tuner without a card?
17:06<vektor>engie: What card do you have?
17:08<vektor>I bet we can fix your problem.
17:08<vektor>You can't use bttv to fake a capture card though.
17:09<vektor>So, drop that idea :)
17:20<Chutt>um
17:20<Chutt>you don't have to have a tuner card to run the plugins.
17:20<Chutt>just don't run the mythbackend program.
17:21<Chutt>and don't try to use the tv stuff, obviously.
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17:36<kja>think there is a 'null' driver for dvb cards over @ linuxtv.org...dunno how it works tho..
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18:54<monkeyBox>Approximately how big is a mythfrontend standalone installation?
18:57<monkeyBox>Is there a knoppix/mythtv CD with just the frontend that doesn't require a hard-drive installation?
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18:58<mikegrb>Anyone with programming experience around? I added a class to libmyth Xbox with a public function Xbox::ChangeLED(QString LEDPhase) when I call it from main.cpp of mythfrontend like this: Xbox::ChangleLED(QString::fromAscii("gggg")); I get an error when compiling: main.cpp:430: no method `Xbox::ChangleLED'
18:59<mikegrb>Where am I going wrong?
18:59<vektor>Is it static?
18:59<vektor>;)
18:59<mikegrb>umm the argument or the function?
18:59<mikegrb>The function is not
18:59<vektor>Then you're not calling it right.
19:00<mikegrb>I see
19:00<vektor>Like, to call a method you usually do object.method(argument) or objectptr->method(argument), and for a static function (not a method) that's defined in an object's namespace, then you say Object::function(arguments).
19:01* vektor not sure what level of C++ programmer you are.
19:01<mikegrb>very novice :-)
19:01<mikegrb>so I'm calling it as if it were a static
19:01<vektor>Does my statement make sense to you then?
19:01<vektor>Yeah.
19:03<mikegrb>the ptr->method(arg) way of doing things would take: Xbox XboxHardware; or is that Xbox *XboxHardware; as I want a pointer? then XboxHardware->ChangeLED(blah)?
19:04<vektor>Hey dude, there's a spelling error above.
19:04<vektor>Xbox::ChangeLED(QString LEDPhase)
19:04<vektor>Xbox::ChangleLED(QString::fromAscii("gggg"))
19:04<vektor>Check that first.
19:04<mikegrb>hmmmm
19:04<mikegrb>heh
19:04<mikegrb>errr, had a case error last night <g>
19:04<mikegrb>yup it is in the code that way lemme give it a shot
19:05* mikegrb is glad he cut'n pasted that bit
19:06<mikegrb>cannot call member function `Xbox::ChangeLED(QString)' without object <- at least it makes more since now :-)
19:06<vektor>Yeah, exactly.
19:06<vektor>And you're right, if you had an object on the stack (Xbox XboxHardware;) then you'd use XboxHardware.ChangeLED(QString::fromAscii("gggg"));
19:06<mikegrb>I'm guessing that is probably why it didn't work when I tried it the other way
19:07<vektor>And if you had a pointer (Xbox *XboxHardware;) and it was pointing at a valid object, you would call XboxHardware->ChangeLED(blah);
19:07<vektor>I recommend you buy a book on C++.
19:09<mikegrb>well I have a few on my safari book shelf but it has been a bit since I read through them... I think I'll probably switch it to static since I want to be able to call this from various places in the code such as plugins and what not and passing a pointer to every plugin would require lots of rewrite and be stupid... am I on the write track with that line of thought?
19:10<mikegrb>Yeah! it compiles now :-)
19:10<vektor>You may be confusing static functions and static data. I can't tell.
19:10* mikegrb heads over to the bookshelf to read up
19:10<mikegrb>thank you for your help though vektor
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19:15<mikegrb>vektor: I see :-) const functions can't change member data, this would work now but not really in the future :/ I will do more reading but thank you for getting me past this road bump
19:18<vektor>static functions != const functions.
19:18<vektor>Careful.
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19:19<vektor>Make sure you read the right part of your book.
19:19<vektor>There's a big difference.
19:19* bbeattie curses dvi cables
19:20<bbeattie>someone at my lug came over with a 10' dvi cable and it worked, I had everything setup right, my 15
19:20<bbeattie>my 15' cable is bad, or too long
19:21<bbeattie>His shuttle didn't even work with my cable
19:21<bbeattie>:-/
19:21<mikegrb>vektor: thanks for the correction
19:21<bbeattie>Now I have to spend part of my friday ohm'ing out the cable to see if it's bad
19:21* mikegrb continues browsing books
19:22<bbeattie>and what's better is my system locks if I have DVI enabled in my X conf, and it's not there.. 5 seconds after X starts or I remove the cable, and no system.
19:23<mikegrb>vektor: thanks! that looks like exactly what I wanted :-)
19:24<mikegrb>bbeattie: :/ I hate when that happens
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19:33<mikegrb>YEAH!!!!
19:33* mikegrb watches his xbox led change colors when mythtv starts :-))
19:34<mikegrb>now just to add setup options
19:36<mikegrb>YEAH!!! /me watches his xbox led change colors when mythtv starts
19:36<mikegrb>er
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19:51<mattfelsen>has anyone gotten a bootsplash to work on debian?
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20:16<monkeyBox>are the frontend settings stored in the mysql database as well?
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20:30<davidm>hey guys.. i'm getting a database error: 'Can't open file: 'program.myi'. (errno: 145). any ideas?
20:30<davidm>when i try to update my channel listings, btw :)
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20:41<diseaser>mikegrb: did you make your xbox into a mythtv unit?
20:44<mikegrb>diseaser: yes
20:49<mikegrb>!google xbox clock looping
20:49<mikegrb>er sorry
20:51<hyperm>is there any way to make xterm readable on tvout
20:52<tmk>shift-plus
20:52<tmk>ie shift-<numpad +>
20:53<hyperm>k
20:55<hyperm>is there any way to make tvout not flicker
20:55<hyperm>looks really bad , is there like an optimal res/refresh to make tv look ok
20:55<hyperm>in xwindows, myth looks fine
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21:00<dwmurphy>are there any known problems with updating from zap2listings right now?
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21:03<hyperm>i was having problems when i first installed , what is the error
21:04<dwmurphy>something that looks like a db error, but let me finish reseting that and trying again.
21:05<hyperm>i had to get a patch
21:05<hyperm>when i first installed
21:05<hyperm>someone here linked me , i dont have it now ;/
21:05<hyperm>but you need it otherwise it wont work
21:05<Chutt>there aren't any patches for xmltv.
21:06<hyperm>i had to get one for zap2listings
21:06<Chutt>you don't need one now.
21:06<hyperm>ah
21:06<Chutt>haven't for weeks.
21:06<hyperm>i installed like one week ago
21:06<hyperm>but anyways
21:07<Chutt>xmltv 0.5.16 was released with the patch you're referring to over two weeks ago.
21:08<hyperm>hrmm my bad
21:08<Chutt>and it's not even required now, since zap2it fixed things on their end.
21:08<hyperm>maybee it has been that long ;/
21:08<Chutt>you're just full of disinformation, aren't you?
21:08<hyperm>jeez
21:08<hyperm>sounded like a similiar problem i had i didnt know it got updated, since there is no news on this stuff
21:09<dwmurphy>heh
21:09<Chutt>And just a note to anyone who's wondering -- XMLTV 0.5.16 was released recently to fix a temporary problem with tv_grab_na. This MythTV release is of course compatible with it, 0.5.15, and 0.5.14, so use whatever you want.
21:09<Chutt>from the mythtv webpage.
21:09<Chutt>yeah, no news.
21:10<dwmurphy>hmm.. sec
21:10<hyperm>well when the problem existed there was no news on the site
21:10<hyperm>anywyas
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21:13<Chutt>dwmurphy, anyway, there currently isn't anything wrong with grabbing listings.
21:14<rkulagow>hey, i'm back. i'm sure you all missed me.
21:14<dwmurphy>ok. thanks.. i'm just running the cron just now to try and up date the listing
21:14<Chutt>hey
21:14<Chutt>rkulagow, have a good trip/whatever?
21:15<rkulagow>texas. august. fucking hot.
21:15<rkulagow>but other than that, sure.
21:15<dwmurphy>ouch ;)
21:21<rkulagow>in good news, (not that i should be totally surprised), my box did multiple recordings while i was gone. and as an added bonus, it also maintained pause on a program that i had started watching and then forgot about. so, you can successfully pause a program for at least 6 days (if it's been pre-recorded)
21:22<Chutt>hah
21:22<dwmurphy>lol
21:23<dwmurphy>so the my update seems to be behaving this time. i dropped and recreated the db. all good
21:36<dwmurphy>cool. worked.
21:39<knight->heh
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22:03<hyperm>when i try to compile lirc it says it cant find my kernel source , i have them installed
22:03<hyperm>but im not sure how to tell it where they are
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23:38<monkeyBox>I'm curious, what's the most reliable hard driv, maxtor, WD, or Seagaat?
23:38<monkeyBox>*Seagate
23:56<zzo>maxtor
23:57<hyperm>during a ./configure it cant find my kernel sources is there some place on the system i can set where the kernel sources are?
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