| --- | Log | opened Wed Sep 03 00:03:16 2003 |
| 00:03 | -!- | mikegrb [michael@pcp02798743pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 00:03 | -!- | Irssi: #mythtv: Total of 37 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 37 normal] |
| 00:03 | -!- | Irssi: Join to #mythtv was synced in 3 secs |
| 00:07 | -!- | o_cee [~o_cee@h40n5c1o1029.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 00:08 | -!- | hadees [~hadees@pcp05051970pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] |
| 00:20 | -!- | dopez [~unknown@dopez.xs4all.nl] has quit ["..."] |
| 00:29 | <hurdel> | anybody here using gentoo? |
| 00:32 | -!- | bbeattie [~mythtv@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net] has quit ["Client Exiting"] |
| 00:36 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-4058.bb.online.no] has quit ["..."] |
| 00:42 | -!- | hadees [~hadees@pcp05051970pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 00:50 | <o_cee> | hurdel: sure |
| 00:58 | -!- | linagee [~linagee@ip68-107-52-190.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 00:58 | <linagee> | anyone know how to control transcode in mythtv? :) i have transcode installed already |
| 00:58 | <o_cee> | read the doc |
| 00:59 | <linagee> | which one? :) |
| 00:59 | <o_cee> | the only one. |
| 01:13 | <linagee> | do i have to have the recording running while transcoding? (with the manual 'X' key) |
| 01:16 | <linagee> | guess no |
| 01:16 | <linagee> | t |
| 01:26 | <linagee> | how do i cut out one part of a 3 hour show. that's the only part i care about. i want to delete the rest |
| 01:29 | <o_cee> | please, read the docs and keys.txt |
| 01:29 | <o_cee> | just press x to start the transcoding, then do whatever you want. the transcoding takes some time |
| 01:29 | <o_cee> | as the doc says. |
| 01:32 | -!- | FryGuy [~fryguy@12-246-43-18.client.attbi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 01:33 | <linagee> | Space/Enter allows you to set or delete a cut point |
| 01:33 | <linagee> | space = set, enter = delete?? |
| 01:34 | <o_cee> | heh. |
| 01:34 | <o_cee> | your computer won't blow up if you'd actually _try_ it. |
| 01:35 | <linagee> | i did try it. i can't figure it out |
| 01:35 | <linagee> | i can't set two points |
| 01:35 | <linagee> | it says "Position cleared" |
| 01:36 | <linagee> | am i using the wrong keys? :( |
| 01:36 | <o_cee> | probably. are you in edit mode at all? |
| 01:36 | <linagee> | ahh. edit mode. :) |
| 01:36 | <dwmurphy2> | there should be a help screen for this stuff :) |
| 01:37 | <linagee> | dwmurphy2: once you get it, you get it. :) |
| 01:37 | <linagee> | o_cee: ok, i did the editing. do i just leave edit mode or do i X from here or what? |
| 01:37 | <linagee> | :) |
| 01:38 | <linagee> | oic. x from here |
| 01:38 | <linagee> | or not |
| 01:39 | <linagee> | ah. good. i "get it" now. :) |
| 01:40 | <o_cee> | x to start, then exit out or whatever. |
| 01:41 | <linagee> | right. i get it now. :) |
| 01:41 | <linagee> | i was able just to clip out the good part. like 10 minutes of 3 hours of clip. :) |
| 01:42 | <linagee> | o_cee: is there i way i can see the queue list of transcoding stuff? or some kind of status? or is that not implemented yet... |
| 01:45 | <o_cee> | not that i know of |
| 01:45 | <o_cee> | look for mythtranscode with ps.. |
| 01:45 | <o_cee> | and there's some output to the backend. |
| 01:45 | <o_cee> | that's all i know of, haven't used it much |
| 01:45 | <linagee> | i can see mythtranscode in my top-ing |
| 01:46 | <o_cee> | it will take some time |
| 01:46 | <linagee> | hehehe. can always see /proc/<mythtranscode_PID>/fd/* :) |
| 01:46 | <linagee> | see what file descriptors the transcoder is using. :) |
| 01:47 | <linagee> | o_cee: see. i'm not that much of a newbie. :) mythtv just takes a while to learn all the keys and stuff |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | i know what you mean ;) |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | at the moment a .old file will be created as well.. if the transcoded file is fucked |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | if it's ok, remember to del the .old file :) |
| 01:48 | <linagee> | file descriptor 10 and 7 seem to be interested. (with mythtv's odd file naming) |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | gotta run |
| 01:48 | <linagee> | s/ted/ing/ |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | later |
| 01:48 | <linagee> | later |
| 01:49 | -!- | o_cee [~o_cee@h40n5c1o1029.bredband.skanova.com] has left #mythtv [] |
| 01:54 | -!- | heatmizer [~whoever@user-0cdvibm.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 02:00 | -!- | heatmizer [~whoever@user-0cdvibm.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Peace & Protection 4.22"] |
| 02:00 | -!- | brainless is now known as brainless_afk |
| 02:00 | -!- | brainless_afk is now known as brainless_zzzz |
| 02:38 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 02:38 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 03:11 | -!- | bline [office-6@office.gossamer-threads.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 03:14 | -!- | Viddy [~lsk@visp194-179.visp.co.nz] has joined #mythtv |
| 03:14 | -!- | brainless_zzzz [~asa@c-24-30-101-108.we.client2.attbi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 03:29 | -!- | sfr [~sfr@pD951814B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 03:35 | -!- | chinande [~chinande@adsl-68-78-40-148.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 03:42 | -!- | lmatter [~lmatter@cpe-66-1-150-141.ca.sprintbbd.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 04:07 | -!- | bline [office-6@office.gossamer-threads.com] has quit ["leaving"] |
| 04:07 | -!- | bline [~bline@h24-84-93-233.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 04:07 | -!- | bline [~bline@h24-84-93-233.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 04:11 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 04:14 | -!- | bline [~bline@h24-84-93-233.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 04:18 | -!- | sfr [~sfr@pD951814B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 04:34 | -!- | sfr [~sfr@pD951814B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 07:18 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 07:29 | -!- | jkolb [~jkolb@216-199-48-234.orl.fdn.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 07:31 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 07:31 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 08:33 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 08:33 | -!- | jkolb [~jkolb@216-199-48-234.orl.fdn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 08:33 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 08:46 | -!- | hurdel [~greg@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] |
| 08:53 | -!- | jkolb [~jkolb@216-199-48-234.orl.fdn.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 08:57 | -!- | poptix_ [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has joined #mythtv |
| 08:57 | -!- | poptix_ is now known as popti |
| 08:57 | -!- | popti is now known as poptix |
| 09:04 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 09:06 | -!- | bline [~bline@h24-84-93-233.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["leaving"] |
| 09:06 | -!- | bline [~bline@h24-84-93-233.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 09:10 | -!- | linagee_ [~linagee@ip68-107-52-190.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 09:10 | -!- | linagee [~linagee@ip68-107-52-190.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 10:18 | <_rkulagow> | sigh. "the docs aren't complete. not that i read them all, mind you". |
| 10:43 | -!- | bbeattie [~bbeattie@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 10:57 | <mdz_> | _rkulagow: he's right, you know. they aren't complete. |
| 10:57 | <mdz_> | they don't tell you about how to turn on your computer |
| 10:57 | <mdz_> | or log in |
| 10:57 | <mdz_> | or ask intelligent questions |
| 10:57 | <mdz_> | or not be an ass |
| 10:58 | <mdz_> | there must be some good instructions somewhere about how to join an irc channel and bitch |
| 10:58 | <mdz_> | because there's no shortage of that |
| 11:01 | -!- | Krondor [~Administr@216.11.32.19] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:02 | <Krondor> | Could someone help me for a minute, I'm getting the dreaded "Backend stuffed up in RequestRingBufferBlock" error message! |
| 11:20 | -!- | schultmc [~schultmc@zealot.progeny.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:23 | -!- | mechou [~mchou@12-235-7-243.client.attbi.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:26 | -!- | mecraw [~mecraw@69.2.235.2] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:26 | -!- | StarHeart [edgan@64-42-21-228.atgi.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:35 | <linagee_> | what is the best way to keep mythbackend running? |
| 11:35 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:36 | <Krondor> | linagee_: mythbackend -d |
| 11:52 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 11:54 | -!- | StarHeart [edgan@64-42-21-228.atgi.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 11:55 | -!- | mechou [~mchou@12-235-7-243.client.attbi.com] has left #mythtv [] |
| 12:05 | -!- | hfb [~hfb@lsanca1-ar2-4-60-012-255.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:08 | <sfr> | anyone know what streaminput.cpp in mythmusic is used for? it's only doing s/t for protocol 'mqp' whatever that is. |
| 12:09 | -!- | hfb [~hfb@lsanca1-ar2-4-60-012-255.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #mythtv ["Client exiting"] |
| 12:10 | -!- | hfb [~hfb@lsanca1-ar2-4-60-012-255.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:11 | -!- | brainless [~asa@c-24-30-101-108.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:17 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-0731.bb.online.no] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:23 | -!- | brainlessdumb [~asa@c-24-30-101-108.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:29 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 12:33 | -!- | StarHeart [edgan@64-42-21-228.atgi.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:38 | -!- | brainlessdumb [~asa@c-24-30-101-108.we.client2.attbi.com] has quit [] |
| 12:39 | -!- | brainless [~asa@c-24-30-101-108.we.client2.attbi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 12:47 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-0731.bb.online.no] has quit ["..."] |
| 13:13 | -!- | Drikus [~Drikus@cc45940-a.deven1.ov.home.nl] has joined #mythtv |
| 13:14 | <Chutt> | sfr, hey, i can't remember, did you send the latest mythmusic patch? |
| 13:14 | <sfr> | Chutt, should be in your inbox. |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | ok, i applied the most recent thing i had from you |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | didn't commit it yet, because i wasn't sure |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | the streaminput.cpp stuff is ancient code from mq3 (which is what i based mythmusic off of) |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | it's not used at all |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | but, http input should be pretty similar |
| 13:16 | <sfr> | ok. figured that. i might reuse it for the webradio stuff. |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 13:16 | <sfr> | Chutt so mq3 was a similar program like mythmusic? |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | mq3 was a qt-based music player |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | the audio decoding was based off of freeamp |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | in mq3, that is |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | i used the audio decoding framework for mythmusic |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | added cd audio / flac and all the ripping stuff |
| 13:18 | <sfr> | Chutt: i see. what is that mqp protocol that's mentioned? google doesn't seem to know about it. |
| 13:18 | <Chutt> | i think it was something specific to mq3 |
| 13:18 | -!- | Drikus [~Drikus@cc45940-a.deven1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["toedeledoki"] |
| 13:18 | <Chutt> | i have no idea, really =) |
| 13:18 | <sfr> | np |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | i'll get your naming patch committed soon, then |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | and sorry i took so long on that |
| 13:19 | <sfr> | ok |
| 13:19 | <sfr> | as long as it makes it in the next release :) |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | it's in CVS now |
| 13:46 | -!- | Markos [markl@CPE004005573530-CM014340008532.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 13:57 | <bline> | ever thought about a -dvb list? |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | i just ignore all those, basically |
| 13:58 | <bline> | heh |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | i need to figure out how dithering works |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | 4-bit color sucks. |
| 14:01 | <vektor> | http://scanline.ca/dithering/ |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | vektor, i have xvmc decoding working nicely, now |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | only problem is that the subpictures are only ia44 :( |
| 14:02 | <vektor> | Can you draw on top of it? |
| 14:02 | <vektor> | yeah. |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | yeah, if i want 16 colors |
| 14:02 | <vektor> | DVD subtitles are terrible, btw. |
| 14:02 | <vektor> | you only get four colours |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | and each of those has a static alpha value |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | so you can't antialias properly |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | I think that's what IA44 is, no? |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | You sure you get a full 16 colour palette over the whole image? |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | ia44 is 4 bits of alpha, 4 bits of paletted yuv |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | Yeah that's what I thought. |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | Hmm. |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | i'm probably just going to use greyscale |
| 14:03 | <vektor> | Nah, that's not really what I thought. |
| 14:04 | <vektor> | Check out my dithering page :) |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | problem is converting my yv12 image with alpha to ia44 and making it look nice. |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | well, or to ai44, but that's the same thing, really |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | very limited |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | can't wait til i get to the pvr-350 stuff =) |
| 14:06 | <vektor> | :) |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | full 32-bit rgba |
| 14:06 | <vektor> | Yeah, I wouldn't mind a PVR-350 if that'll all work. |
| 14:06 | <vektor> | I released tvtime with a menu system, btw. |
| 14:06 | <vektor> | You should try it out. |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | i'd have to setup the analog card again |
| 14:07 | <vektor> | oh, sorry :( |
| 14:09 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 14:20 | <mdz_> | another 2 months without a murmur about tvtime debs...is it time for me to package it from scratch and sidestep simon's itp? |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 14:21 | <vektor> | mdz: Maybe. |
| 14:21 | <vektor> | I'd like you to start with the debian/ directory in tvtime CVS. |
| 14:21 | <vektor> | I have also made things much easier. |
| 14:21 | <vektor> | I have a command called 'tvtime-configure', so the debconf doesn't need to edit any files. |
| 14:21 | <vektor> | It just runs that command. |
| 14:24 | <mdz_> | vektor: christ, why isn't it done yet, then? |
| 14:26 | <sfr> | vektor: can tvtime spawn an external program? this way i could start mythepg easily. |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | mdz: because simon moved and had troubles in school |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | he just moved to montreal and is busy with work until the weekend he says |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | but it's been like this for months now |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | he keeps saying 'next weekend' and stuff. |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | so, sigh. |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | sfr: no, but i can put the feature in easily if you tell me how you want it to work. |
| 14:28 | <mdz_> | vektor: would he be mad if I just did it? |
| 14:28 | <mdz_> | he could of course replace my package with his if he ever gets around to it |
| 14:29 | <vektor> | mdz: well why not start with the debian directory in my CVS |
| 14:29 | <vektor> | that would be best |
| 14:29 | <vektor> | and do it, and i'll check it over, and if it looks good then just do it |
| 14:29 | <vektor> | i think that will be fine |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | mdz doesn't do debian/ in CVS |
| 14:29 | <mdz_> | heh |
| 14:31 | <sfr> | vektor: that'd be great! in xawtv one can map a command to any key; like this: 'epg = A, mythepg' |
| 14:34 | <vektor> | sfr: And it runs it in the background ? |
| 14:34 | <vektor> | mdz: Why not? It's not in the dist. |
| 14:34 | | * vektor wants the packaging information in our CVS so I can update things if I need to, and the packager can get them and see them, and so others know how to best make packages if they want to, say, start with the debian packaging and make a xandros package or whatever. |
| 14:35 | <sfr> | vektor: background? what do you mean? |
| 14:35 | <vektor> | sfr: Well it's the same as running 'mythepg &' in an xterm, right? |
| 14:36 | <vektor> | Like, you don't want to shut down tvtime to run the epg, right? |
| 14:36 | <sfr> | vektor: aha! no i wouldn't want that. just start the ext. program and continue. |
| 14:36 | <vektor> | ok, easy. |
| 14:37 | <sfr> | vektor: no patch required? ;) |
| 14:37 | <vektor> | sfr: Huh? No, I'm coding it now, it will be in 0.9.9.1. |
| 14:38 | <vektor> | Will only take a minute to code that. |
| 14:38 | <sfr> | Chutt: you followed? it should be always like that :) |
| 14:39 | <sfr> | vektor: what about adding a kitchen sink, so i can watch tv while doing the dishes? |
| 14:39 | <vektor> | ahem. |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:40 | <sfr> | vektor: thanks, btw |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | i do really easy stuff for some people |
| 14:41 | <bline> | hey vektor |
| 14:41 | <sfr> | Chutt: sure, note the smiley |
| 14:49 | <vektor> | Chutt: You take a lot of abuse :) |
| 14:50 | -!- | dakeyrus [~ephesus@ephesus.rh.rit.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 15:05 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 15:05 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 15:07 | <vektor> | sfr: Done, I'm checking it in to CVS now. |
| 15:07 | <vektor> | It's cool, I have a key binding to bring up xterms now. |
| 15:07 | <vektor> | Kinda weird :) |
| 15:08 | <sfr> | vektor: merci, is it fixed to one key? |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | vektor: the packaging stuff is easily accessible without it being in cvs; I don't think that's an issue |
| 15:10 | <vektor> | mdz: Why not put it in CVS though? What's your sourceforge userid, I'll add you now. |
| 15:10 | <vektor> | sfr: No, you configure the key bindings in a config file. |
| 15:10 | <mdz_> | vektor: I'll send you my stock list of reasons |
| 15:11 | <sfr> | vektor: ok. |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | vektor: mostly that the packaging ends up being a branch, and must match a specific version of upstream |
| 15:11 | -!- | Krondor [~Administr@216.11.32.19] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | vektor: I think my sourceforge uid is mzimmerman |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | let me verify |
| 15:12 | <mdz_> | vektor: yep |
| 15:12 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-0731.bb.online.no] has joined #mythtv |
| 15:13 | <vektor> | mdz: Ok, you're active. |
| 15:13 | <mdz_> | because some deadbeat stole mdz before me and then never did anything |
| 15:14 | <mdz_> | not that I'm bitter |
| 15:14 | <jkolb> | You could have picked mdz_ |
| 15:14 | <mdz_> | I could have gotten an AOL account instead |
| 15:16 | -!- | jkolb [~jkolb@216-199-48-234.orl.fdn.com] has quit [] |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | the aol account would probably have been more useful |
| 15:28 | -!- | dwmurphy [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 15:28 | -!- | dwmurphy2 [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 15:35 | -!- | poptix [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] |
| 15:47 | -!- | Drikus [~Drikus@cc45940-a.deven1.ov.home.nl] has joined #mythtv |
| 16:16 | -!- | dwmurphy [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 16:25 | -!- | poptix [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has joined #mythtv |
| 16:44 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 16:51 | -!- | poptix [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has quit [Connection timed out] |
| 16:52 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 16:52 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 16:53 | -!- | dwmurphy [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 16:54 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 16:55 | <heavy> | does myth use oss by default? |
| 16:55 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 16:56 | <heavy> | to use alsa do i just change the AudioOutputDevice setting in the db? |
| 16:56 | <heavy> | my alsa works great but i can't seem to get oss working |
| 16:58 | <heavy> | i'm so close to getting myth going... but just can't seem to get this sound |
| 17:01 | -!- | Drikus [~Drikus@cc45940-a.deven1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["toedeledoki"] |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | the alsa oss emulation generally works fine |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | just use that |
| 17:04 | -!- | o_cee [~o_cee@h40n5c1o1029.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:05 | <o_cee> | i've got an idea that i think even isaac would like ;) |
| 17:07 | <o_cee> | when entering, for example, channel "1", it doesn't wait until the delay, but checks if ther IS, for example, a channel 11. if there isn't, it switches asap. is that understandable? |
| 17:08 | <o_cee> | just an idea i got, had to get it out :P |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | someone brought that up before |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | the current behavior's what i'm used to |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | but if someone wanted to make it configurable, that'd be cool. |
| 17:10 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4"] |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | okay. |
| 17:11 | <o_cee> | but what would you loose? the only thing would be that it switches channel faster, heh |
| 17:11 | <o_cee> | right? |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | i often hit a bunch of 0's to clear out a channel change in progress |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | before it starts changing |
| 17:12 | <o_cee> | hm, okay.. |
| 17:13 | <o_cee> | wich also reminds me.. is there a reason that there's no "last chan" button? |
| 17:13 | <mikegrb> | there is :-) |
| 17:13 | <sfr> | :) |
| 17:14 | <o_cee> | hmm |
| 17:14 | <o_cee> | not mentioned in keys.txt? |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | guess not |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | H |
| 17:16 | <o_cee> | oh, cool :) |
| 17:16 | <o_cee> | thought it was strange |
| 17:17 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:17 | -!- | harrih [hh@h68-144-63-69.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:21 | <sfr> | one more idea: what about adding an option to schedule a show not for recording but to simply tune to it's channel when the show starts? |
| 17:22 | <o_cee> | i read that before as well |
| 17:22 | <o_cee> | like a reminder |
| 17:22 | <sfr> | must have missed this |
| 17:22 | <o_cee> | long time ago i think |
| 17:23 | <sfr> | and to complete the shutdown command: a sleep-timer, though i woudn't use it myself. |
| 17:24 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4"] |
| 17:26 | -!- | hfb [~hfb@lsanca1-ar2-4-60-012-255.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 17:27 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-0731.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] |
| 17:28 | <o_cee> | another thing that would be cool for programmable remotes is to be able to go directly to a specific module.. like a "MythMusic" button.. |
| 17:28 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:29 | <heavy> | i know this may not be the best place to ask, but i'm running out of ideas |
| 17:29 | <heavy> | trying to get oss emulation working |
| 17:29 | <heavy> | alsa works fine |
| 17:29 | <heavy> | oss modules won't load tho |
| 17:29 | <o_cee> | why |
| 17:30 | <heavy> | i wish i knew |
| 17:30 | <o_cee> | what's the error |
| 17:30 | <heavy> | here's the error when i run: insmod snd-pcm-oss |
| 17:30 | <heavy> | insmod snd-pcm-oss |
| 17:30 | <heavy> | Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o |
| 17:30 | <heavy> | /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o: unresolved symbol snd_mixer_oss_ioctl_card_Rc9641f58 |
| 17:30 | <sfr> | o_cee isn't someone working to extend mythfrontend to be able to receive commands from 'outside' e.g. via a control socket? |
| 17:30 | <o_cee> | heavy: do insmod snd-mixer-oss first |
| 17:30 | <mdz_> | heavy: run modprobe, not insmod |
| 17:30 | <o_cee> | sfr: dunno |
| 17:31 | <o_cee> | can't recall reading about it |
| 17:31 | <sfr> | o_cee: forget the ?, i think i've read it on the -dev list some time ago. |
| 17:31 | <heavy> | i ran o_cee's suggestino before seeing mdz_'s |
| 17:31 | <heavy> | modules are in |
| 17:32 | <heavy> | hmm, xmms doesn't work with oss tho, not a good sign |
| 17:32 | <o_cee> | [23:29]<heavy> i know this may not be the best place to ask, but i'm running out of ideas <-- yeez, you really tried a long time didn't you :) |
| 17:32 | <heavy> | those steps aren't the most intuitive or well documented |
| 17:32 | <o_cee> | what would be the fun of it if everything was in the doc? |
| 17:33 | <mdz_> | heavy: modprobe has been the correct way to load modules for about 5 years |
| 17:33 | <heavy> | fun would be actually using mythtv, not spending time configuring your system for it |
| 17:33 | <mdz_> | and it has a nice man page |
| 17:34 | <harrih> | heavy, did you read the gentoo alsa guide ? |
| 17:34 | <harrih> | it's all there |
| 17:34 | <mdz_> | in fact, the insmod man page has a big note at the top saying "GO USE MODPROBE" |
| 17:34 | <mdz_> | so please don't complain about documentation when you obviously didn't even glance at it |
| 17:35 | <heavy> | i'm just saying i didn't even know i had to insert any modules |
| 17:35 | <harrih> | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml |
| 17:35 | <sfr> | heavy: how much fun can watching tv be? or do you think Chutt started this if he intended to watch tv. :) the fun is in the making. |
| 17:35 | <o_cee> | harrih: very good guide |
| 17:35 | <heavy> | not complaining i didn't know how to insert them |
| 17:35 | <o_cee> | sfr: haha |
| 17:35 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 17:36 | <harrih> | If anyone is using gdb, what version ? |
| 17:36 | -!- | toe [~matthew@host81-129-121-20.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 17:36 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-1177.bb.online.no] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:36 | -!- | toe [~matthew@host81-129-121-20.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:37 | <heavy> | ok, so my modules are in, but still no sound through oss, this is where I'm stuck |
| 17:37 | <sfr> | heavy: also not with other programs? |
| 17:38 | <harrih> | Heavy, look at the guide, do everything by it, and if it doesn't work then start troubleshooting |
| 17:38 | <heavy> | sfr: correct, no programs |
| 17:38 | <sfr> | heavy: so it's not a myth problem, follow harrih's advice. |
| 17:38 | <o_cee> | heheh |
| 17:38 | <o_cee> | try alsamixer to start with |
| 17:39 | <o_cee> | and aplay |
| 17:41 | <harrih> | well, I dunno what to do with my problem... FF freezes the frontend on many files, it tries to rebuffer endlessly, I have and 2-3 other people have submitted backtraces, but they are useless for some reason.. I'm totally out of ideas :( |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | because you need to debug _why_ it's trying to rebuffer |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | a backtrace is totally useless for that type of error. |
| 17:43 | <harrih> | Unfortunately I don't have skills for that, but a friend of mine has the same problem, we'll try to do it together (he does some debugging in his work) |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | mdz, thanks for that commit. |
| 17:44 | <o_cee> | i'm getting some audio buffering as well.. no clue why. |
| 17:44 | <o_cee> | and very random |
| 17:44 | <o_cee> | mdz: :) |
| 17:44 | <harrih> | I've been trying to figure out what files cause it, because some files work just ok, but some are really bad. Haven't found any (with my skills) any reasons that connect the files. |
| 17:45 | <sfr> | mdz: any other easter eggs? |
| 17:46 | <o_cee> | 7 in mythmusic is cool |
| 17:46 | <sfr> | o_cee: don't tell me, don't tell me!! :) |
| 17:46 | <o_cee> | hehhehe |
| 17:46 | <harrih> | chutt, sorry to bug you, is there any (easy) way to remove a bookmark from a file, what table holds them in the database ? |
| 17:47 | <harrih> | and I mean any other than by using mythfrontend |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | just hit space again during playback. |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | you can remove it from the table (recordedmarkup), but why? |
| 17:47 | <harrih> | I have a file that enters the rebuffering loop when I start it (it is bookmarked) |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | well, that's a good reason to keep the bookmark, then |
| 17:47 | <harrih> | so space will not clear the bookmark |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | since it will help you debug the problem. |
| 17:48 | <harrih> | well true I guess :) |
| 17:48 | <harrih> | I submitted the backtrace on that file, but as you said there is no info about the actual problem |
| 17:48 | -!- | dopez [~unknown@dopez.xs4all.nl] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:48 | <o_cee> | is it possible to automatically bookmark upon exiting the file? so that it just starts where you left? not sure i've seen that, but i might have missed it.. not at the tv now |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | o_cee, that's an option |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | it's off by default |
| 17:49 | <o_cee> | nice. will enable it tomorrow :) |
| 17:50 | <harrih> | just to make sure this has nothing to do with it, I have looked at the recordedmarkup table, and it has over 200000 records, this is normal right ? I assume all the commercial breaks and bookmarks etc are here ? |
| 17:50 | <o_cee> | btw, what's that "extra large audio buffer" or something like that? at the same place as the "experimental av sync".. what does that do? |
| 17:50 | <Chutt> | harrih, yup, that's normal |
| 17:50 | <harrih> | k thanks |
| 17:50 | <Chutt> | o_cee, stuff |
| 17:50 | <o_cee> | hehehe, ok.. will enable it and see if the occational audio rebuffering dissapears |
| 17:51 | <o_cee> | maybe running the back/frontend with nice -19 would help also? or maybe -10? dunno what would be appropriate |
| 17:54 | <harrih> | k thanks for your time chutt. time to take the dog to the park |
| 17:54 | -!- | harrih [hh@h68-144-63-69.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [] |
| 17:54 | <o_cee> | mythtranscode seems to have problems with this file.. when recorded, the backend died, and then it continued recording when restarted.. |
| 17:54 | <o_cee> | seems to be usin up all CPU |
| 17:54 | <o_cee> | 2003-09-03 23:29:54 Fast-Forwarding from 0 to 5127 |
| 17:54 | <o_cee> | 25 minutes ago.. |
| 17:55 | <o_cee> | ah i'll just throw that file to /dev/null instead |
| 17:56 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 17:59 | <o_cee> | later.. going to bed now.. bye bye |
| 17:59 | -!- | o_cee [~o_cee@h40n5c1o1029.bredband.skanova.com] has left #mythtv ["time to sleep.."] |
| 18:05 | -!- | sfr [~sfr@pD951814B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 18:11 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 18:34 | -!- | bbeattie [~bbeattie@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net] has quit ["where's a bed...."] |
| 18:37 | <phar0e> | hi |
| 18:47 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-1177.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] |
| 18:48 | -!- | kja [~ke-aa@ti132110a080-1930.bb.online.no] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:04 | -!- | schultmc [~schultmc@zealot.progeny.com] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 19:05 | -!- | poptix [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:07 | -!- | brainless [brainless@isdsal109pc113.ics.usc.edu] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:18 | -!- | tmk [~tmk@12-234-205-129.client.attbi.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:22 | -!- | brainless [brainless@isdsal109pc113.ics.usc.edu] has quit [] |
| 19:23 | <tmk> | greetings |
| 19:24 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 19:33 | -!- | knight- [knight@hacksess.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:34 | <knight-> | hmmm, what do you think it would take to let multiple mythfrontend's to feed off the same livetv feed? |
| 19:34 | <knight-> | or any live input for that matter |
| 19:49 | -!- | mecraw [~mecraw@69.2.235.2] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)"] |
| 19:50 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["wuuuusch..."] |
| 19:56 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 19:57 | <tmk> | sup chutt... have a chance to work on the OSD yet? |
| 20:13 | -!- | StarHeart [edgan@64-42-21-228.atgi.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 20:27 | -!- | keturn [~kevin@130-94-161-17-dsl.hevanet.com] has quit [Read error: 111 (Connection refused)] |
| 20:30 | <knight-> | tmk, what of the OSD was he working on? |
| 20:32 | <tmk> | just checking status |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | tmk, almost done |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | just need to figure out how best to dither it down to 16 colors |
| 20:38 | <tmk> | cool |
| 20:38 | <tmk> | youdaman |
| 20:38 | <tmk> | you find your bug then? :) |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | had some free time |
| 20:39 | <tmk> | :) |
| 20:39 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: any more thought on the xbox includes? |
| 20:39 | <mikegrb> | er thoughts |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | i don't think those should be in the mythtv source |
| 20:39 | <mikegrb> | Okay |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | it looked to me like it belonged in a kernel module |
| 20:40 | <mikegrb> | I'll talk to the xbox linux guys see if they can't replace it in the kernel source |
| 20:40 | <mikegrb> | the problem was they are modified from normal |
| 20:40 | <mikegrb> | and for size reasons by default there isn't a kernel source or kernel headers installation |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | right |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | just needs to have a compiled module, though |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | the stuff in mythtv should just be an ioctl or two to talk to all that |
| 20:41 | <mikegrb> | okay so If I pull out the few bits I need fore sure and put them in my xbox.h |
| 20:41 | <mikegrb> | hmm |
| 20:41 | <mikegrb> | okay, I'll do some more experimenting |
| 20:42 | <mikegrb> | I also need to move were the settings are loaded so when they are changed in setup they take effect, rather then not until restart |
| 20:42 | <mikegrb> | s/were/where/ |
| 20:42 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 20:42 | <phar0e> | Hello , how can I tell what version of Freetype I have? |
| 20:42 | <mikegrb> | move them to the bits in libmyth rather then libmythtv with a function to reload the settings |
| 20:43 | <knight-> | hmmm, what do you think it would take to let multiple mythfrontend's to feed off the same livetv feed, or any live input for that matter |
| 20:43 | <mikegrb> | freetype-config --version |
| 20:44 | <phar0e> | I tried that |
| 20:44 | <phar0e> | but it doesn't seem right.. saying I have 9.1.3 |
| 20:44 | <phar0e> | isn't there only freetype 1 & 2? |
| 20:45 | <mikegrb> | that's what mine says... I also have a /usr/share/doc/freetype-2.1.2/ dir |
| 20:45 | <mikegrb> | you might see what you have that starts with freetype |
| 20:46 | <mikegrb> | or a locate freetype | less |
| 20:46 | <phar0e> | okay looks like everything is fine there, I think I am going to install that visor theme |
| 20:47 | -!- | poptix [poptix@techmonkeys.org] has left #mythtv [] |
| 20:57 | <knight-> | so currently, mythfrontend has to sync with mythbackend for frame data right? do you think it would be hard to have another mythfrontend sync the same frame data? |
| 20:59 | <knight-> | I was thinking about adding a broadcast feature to mythbackend to compensate for this. |
| 21:00 | <knight-> | So one backend can broadcast to more than one frontend (think of a college kid broadcasting a movie to 15 dorm mates, or a movie played on 20 airplane seat screens, etc) |
| 21:03 | <knight-> | The main purpose though, would be to allow many screens in a house to view the same live recording, and to minimize capture card use for the same sources. No need to duplicate a Live TV of channel 2, etc. |
| 21:05 | <tmk> | knight-: check out videolan if you want to do that |
| 21:06 | <tmk> | i may bbl |
| 21:06 | <tmk> | but for now |
| 21:06 | <tmk> | i'm outie |
| 21:06 | -!- | tmk [~tmk@12-234-205-129.client.attbi.com] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 21:07 | <knight-> | heh. I know of videolan. |
| 21:07 | <knight-> | But I think mythtv should support that. |
| 21:07 | <knight-> | I have 4 tvs in my house, and they're all very heavily used :) |
| 21:08 | <knight-> | Would save me considerable capture card and cpu usage |
| 21:13 | -!- | dwmurphy [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 21:13 | -!- | David [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 21:25 | -!- | hadees [~hadees@pcp05051970pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] |
| 21:25 | -!- | David [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 21:25 | -!- | David [DavidMurph@h24-84-179-240.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 21:31 | <knight-> | this would also go well for making the Security Camera stuff |
| 21:31 | <knight-> | so multiple frontends can see the cameras at once |
| 21:35 | -!- | echo [foobar@www.thebucket.org] has joined #mythtv |
| 21:43 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 21:43 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 21:53 | -!- | choenig [~choenig@pD952CE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["wuuuusch..."] |
| 21:53 | <echo> | where do you set the mythtv theme? |
| 21:55 | <phar0e> | under settings / appearance |
| 21:55 | <kja> | echo "mythfrontend/setup/apperance" > /dev/null |
| 21:56 | <phar0e> | anyone here use visor? |
| 21:58 | <kja> | tried it a while back..why? |
| 21:58 | <phar0e> | I can't figure out why I can't get the transparency the theme requires, and my fonts don't look as smooth as I've seen in screenshots |
| 21:58 | <phar0e> | those two problems I am having |
| 22:00 | <echo> | Ah |
| 22:01 | <echo> | I was just running myuthtv, not mythtvfrontend |
| 22:01 | <echo> | my bad. |
| 22:03 | <kja> | transparency don't work here either, fonts ok tho |
| 22:03 | -!- | hadees [~hadees@pcp05051970pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 22:03 | <phar0e> | http://www.coincapital.com/visor/visor3.png , would have been nice to get it looking like that |
| 22:04 | <phar0e> | but there wasn't a README or anything included with tips on how to get it working correctly.. oh well |
| 22:04 | -!- | keturn [~kevin@130-94-161-17-dsl.hevanet.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 22:07 | <kja> | strange... |
| 22:08 | <kja> | think i had it looking like that a while back |
| 22:09 | <phar0e> | maybe I need some sort of special setting in my XFree86 config.. not sure |
| 22:15 | <mikegrb> | yes |
| 22:15 | <mikegrb> | er |
| 22:16 | -!- | bobnvic [~no@64.151.4.216] has joined #mythtv |
| 22:22 | <phar0e> | mikegrb, do you know which it is? |
| 22:22 | <bobnvic> | I recompiled with native lirc support, but I get mythtv: could not connect to socket and connection refused errors when starting mythfrontend. /dev/lircd has permissions srw-rw-rw- with owner root. irxevent has no trouble started as user (not root). I followed the instructions in the lirc.org faq to chmod 666 /dev/lircd, but it made no difference (I'm pretty sure it was already set to 666). Does anyone have any suggestions that I can try? |
| 22:22 | <mikegrb> | phar0e: no I'm sorry, that was meant for another window |
| 22:23 | <phar0e> | oh, you got my hopes up :) |
| 22:23 | <phar0e> | Hell, I'll make a post to the mailinglist, wish me luck |
| 22:28 | -!- | diseaser [~zach@cs666898-237.austin.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] |
| 22:28 | <mikegrb> | good luck phar0e |
| 22:29 | -!- | paulproteus [foobar@res38-276-4501.resnet.jhu.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 22:35 | <bobnvic> | is anyone using native lirc support? |
| 23:01 | -!- | heavy [~heavy@wnpgmb08dc1-res-90-159.mts.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4"] |
| 23:09 | -!- | phar0e [phar0e@cpe-24-24-236-156.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] |
| 23:12 | -!- | FryGuy [~fryguy@12-246-43-18.client.attbi.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 23:17 | <vektor> | Chutt: How big to xmltv files get? |
| --- | Log | closed Thu Sep 04 00:00:17 2003 |
