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---Logopened Sat Sep 06 00:00:28 2003
00:03<hadees>okay well i think i ruled that out
00:03<hadees>i switched serial devices to the second one
00:04<dwmurphy>sorry.. i have to run.. i hope that helped a bit
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00:44<Chutt>people can get to the website fine, right?
00:46<mikegrb>Chutt: just pulled it up
00:47<Chutt>just checking, someone emailed me and said they couldn't get to it
00:47<Chutt>not seeing any problems mysefl
00:47<Chutt>myself
00:47<yebyen>so whats goin on
00:47<mikegrb>Chutt: Me neither
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00:58<monkeyBox>How do I get mythtv to use my own ttf fonts? (like MS Arial) ??
00:59<monkeyBox>The FreeSans.ttf font doesn't seem to be anti-aliased.. or maybe it's because the font-server isn't configured correctly
01:01<Chutt>it uses arial by default in all the uis
01:01<Chutt>if it's not antialiased, you don't have qt setup to do aa fonts.
01:01<Chutt>run qtconfig.
01:02<monkeyBox>Well, I'm using minimyth :)
01:02<Chutt>so?
01:02<monkeyBox>I'm not sure how he's got this thing set up :p
01:02<Chutt>you still have to set things up properly.
01:02<hadees>anyone know why i might be getting problems trying to open /dev/lirc?
01:02<hadees>i tried two diffrent serial ports same problem
01:03<hadees>i have an irman
01:03<monkeyBox>Chutt: the only fonts I see in /usr/share/mythtv are FreeSans and FreeMono.. shoudl there be an arial?
01:03<Chutt>it doesn't use those fonts for the main ui.
01:03<monkeyBox>oh...
01:04<monkeyBox>I see. So do I need to look at any other settings other than QT to make sure it's antialiasing? like in the XF86Config?
01:04<Chutt>probably.
01:10<monkeyBox>any idea where qtconfig saves its settings?
01:12<Chutt>~/.qt/
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01:14<hadees>does the gentoo ebuild use the cvs?
01:14<monkeyBox>minimyth's home is set to / ... no .qt there.. no qtconfig program either. strange
01:14<monkeyBox>it's _very_ slimmed down
01:14<michal>can mythtv run inside the directfb X11?
01:17<monkeyBox>hadees: the one in portage is just 0.11. I don't think it's CVS
01:17<Chutt>it sure better not be using cvs
01:18<monkeyBox>yeah, very few ebuilds use CVS, unless they explicitly have CVS in the title, or if CVS is the only way to get it...
01:18<Chutt>monkeybox, so ask the minimyth guy to set up the fonts nicer
01:19<monkeyBox>Chutt: I think I just might :)
01:19<monkeyBox>he did a good job though getting things down to a bare minimum.. this thing net-boots in under 60 sec.
01:20<michal>hmm.. i wish i could find a g450 to g550 comparison somehwere :\
01:20<mechou>so what's this minimyth?
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01:22<michal>it SEEMS that the only difference is the software bundle and the type/amount of ram (though even this can be identical)
01:22<michal>and of course one has a proprietart breakout cable while the other has 2 hd15 connectors
01:23<Chutt>mechou, see the mythtv website.
01:24<mechou>okm myth for epia, gotcha.
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01:45<michal>is there any way to emulate a v4l interface on a budget dvb card?
01:45<yebyen>HEH
01:45<yebyen>that sounds like probably not exactly what you want to do
01:46<michal>it is definetly exactly what i want to do. i want to make v4l supporting applications work with a budget dvb card without adding functionality outside their scope
01:46<michal>so an extra layer in userspace
01:46<michal>at least temporarily
01:47<yebyen>heh
01:47<yebyen>sounds complicated
01:47<michal>it's less complicated than writing entirely new software
01:53<michal>doh.. need devfs
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01:53<Chutt>there, bugs fixed, bedtime.
01:54<michal>i wish there was an irc channel where dvb people gathered :\
01:54<monkeyBox>Hey, is the ~/.qt config file the same thing as ~/.qt/qtrc file in other distributions (namely gentoo)?
01:54<Chutt>err, it's the same everywhere.
01:54<Chutt>~/.qt is the directory
01:54<Chutt>you asked where the config file was stored.
01:55<monkeyBox>oh i see...
01:55<monkeyBox>so I could just copy my .qt dir to the minimyth tree..
01:55<Chutt>probably
01:55<monkeyBox>I'll try that and see if it works.. I noticed X showing messages about not being able to create /.qt, so maybe that'll solve it
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01:57<michal>ok.. there's a v4l output for mplayer.. i could use that with the vloopback module :P
01:58<michal>wish it could be build seperately :\
01:58<michal>ahh.. it can :)
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02:12<michal__>anyone know of any software than can output to a v4l video device?
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02:26<toe>hi - anyone know if it's possible to hang 2 lirc devices off the same box?
02:38<bobnvic>I'm have a pvr-250. when I do test_ioctl -f width=720,height=480, I get ioctl: VIDIOC_S_FMT
02:38<bobnvic>ioctl: VIDIOC_G_FMT failed
02:38<bobnvic>is that normal?
02:39<bobnvic>any test_ioctl returns one success and one failed ioctl
02:40<bobnvic>otherwise the driver seems to work, though it has a few glitches for me.
02:44<michal__>don't suppose anyone here is familiar with mplayer?
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02:46<tmk>yo chutt
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08:22<orangebits>I'm getting a compile error with MythVideo and MythMusic relating to LCDswitchToTime being undeclared
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09:48<oc>guys
09:48<oc>mythbackend says:
09:48<oc>: Invalid argument
09:48<oc>In file tools/qgarray.cpp, line 147: Out of memory
09:48<oc>wtf is that?
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09:51<sfr>a tools directory doesn't exist in the mythtv source tree
09:52<oc>hmm
09:52<sfr>maybe it's related to the qt libs?
09:53<oc>probably
09:53<oc>the backend was dead.. restarted it now, no complaints.. ah wlell
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10:05<orangebits>Is anyone else having problems with LCDswitchToTime with MythMusic?
10:06<thor_>orangebits, what's the problem?
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10:17<orangebits>thor_: main.cpp:340: error: `LCDswitchToTime' undeclared (first use this function)
10:17<thor_>you have a non-recent version of libmyth installed (seems to me) ?
10:18<orangebits>I don't think so
10:18<orangebits>How do I tell?
10:18<thor_>you on source or a package ?
10:18<orangebits>source
10:19<orangebits>It seems to be libmyth-0.12.so
10:19<thor_>cd /usr/local/include/mythtv
10:19<thor_>grep LCDswitchToTime *
10:20<orangebits>Nothing
10:20<thor_>hang on ...
10:20<orangebits>A grep -R in the source doesn't show anything
10:21<thor_>no ... you've got an old mythmusic source
10:21<thor_>LCDswitchToTime was taken out
10:21<orangebits>I grabbed it from the website earlier
10:21<thor_>need cvs
10:21<orangebits>Can I get it from somewhere else?
10:21<orangebits>Oh, okay. Cheers
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11:23<_rkulagow>i've googled and poked around a little and can't seem to find who won those via PCs for that sclug "best PVR" contest that closed on 23 july.
11:26<dwmurphy>hey guys: my digitized tv audio is coming out my rear line out.. i have everything set to /dev/dsp, though.. what's up?
11:26<sfr>_rkulagow: hi, in the how-to there's no debian-specific section in 4.3 (environment variables). Could that be added since apparently some people compile from source even on debian?
11:27<thor_>rkulagow, they got 6 entries, so are plannin to give give 6 prizes (rather than the original 5)
11:27<thor_>s/give give/give
11:27<_rkulagow>sfr: i suppose it could. MDZ wrote up the debian portion; have you talked to him?
11:27<_rkulagow>thor: there were only 6 entries all together? that seems low. i figured there'd be hundreds. who won?
11:27<sfr>_rkulagow: No, i didn't know that. So i'll talk to him first.
11:28<thor_>rkulagow, it was not particularily well publicized .... Chutt (and me), and four other people
11:28<_rkulagow>ah, cool. congrats!
11:28<thor_>thanks
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11:46<_rkulagow>chutt: can you please sync cvs docs?
11:48<thor_>oh yeah, docs ... I knew there was something I was forgetting to do
11:48<yebyen>welp, installed gentoo
11:49<_rkulagow>thor: now i wish i had set a reminder to enter the contest. i could use another frontend. oh well. did you enter yourself, or did someone nominate you? also, create some docs already!
11:50<_rkulagow>bbl. gotta finish the radiant floor in the basement.
11:59<Chutt>'I just downloaded MythTV from the following page: <url>. When I try to open the zip file, I receive the following error: "Error reading header after processing 0 entries" "Invalid archive directory" So basically, I can't do anything with the file I downloaded. All my other zip files work fine so I know it's not WinZip.'
11:59<mikegrb>lol
11:59<mikegrb>they should just give up and go for myhtpc
12:00<Chutt>well
12:00<Chutt>i don't think i come out and blatently say it's for linux
12:01<mikegrb>heh
12:02<vektor>Chutt: Can I see the output of 'glxinfo' from one of your GF4 cards
12:02<vektor>if it's a pain, don't bother
12:02<Chutt>what's your email address?
12:02<vektor>vektor@dumbterm.net
12:03<Chutt>sent
12:03<vektor>Chutt: Thanks, I got it, you rock.
12:03<Chutt>what'dya want it for?
12:03<sfr>Chutt: i believe the webradio thing will take a while. Right now i'm trying to understand how the encoder/lameencoder thing (well, inheritance actually) works.
12:04<Chutt>sfr, heh, ok
12:05<vektor>Chutt: Want to see what extensions it supports for Y'CbCr textures.
12:06<Chutt>ah, want to do a gl output plugin?
12:06<vektor>I'm kinda arguing with someone about the benefits of doing one.
12:07<vektor>My point is that it is silly to do one without admitting you're targeting specific hardware.
12:07<vektor>Like, there's no point in doing a general GL output plugin and calling it 'done'
12:07<Chutt>there's a xvmc thingie for output to a gl surface now apparently
12:10<vektor>This guy specifically is annoyed with his ATI drivers.
12:10<vektor>They don't support XVIDEO when in dual-head.
12:14<Chutt>i just tell people to get better video cards
12:17<vektor>You just mean cards with better drivers.
12:18<Chutt>yeah
12:23<mdz>sfr: if you need to compile from source on Debian, I recommend using the packages
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12:23<mdz>if you're building CVS, it's the same as anyplace else
12:23<mdz>QTDIR is pretty much it
12:23<sfr>mdz: Not for me, but someone had problems with QTDIR yesterday, so i thought this should be added.
12:25<mdz><sect3>Debian
12:25<mdz><p>On Debian woody, QTDIR should be set to <tt>/usr/share/qt</tt>. On
12:25<mdz>Debian unstable, QTDIR should be set to <tt>/usr/share/qt3</tt>.
12:25<mdz>something like that?
12:25<sfr>mdz: like that, yes. It's already in the docs?
12:25<mdz>no, I just drafted it
12:26<sfr>mdz: ah, and is it the same on woody? the guy yesterday said he set it to /usr/share/qt iirc.
12:27<mdz>sfr: no, it is different on woody. that's why I had two separate sentences.
12:27<sfr>mdz, sorry, i only read 1/2 of it.
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12:52<rozo>Anyone have the problem where MythTV locks up when it trys to skip commercials?
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14:26<mcsmurf>is it possible to run mythtv with grabdisplay?
14:26<mcsmurf>(or how this is called, in xawtv it's grabdisplay)
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14:30<mcsmurf>so noone :/?
14:31<sfr>mcsmurf: patience :)
14:31<sfr>oh, aus DE!
14:32<mcsmurf>ah patience
14:32<mcsmurf>yes
14:32<mcsmurf>i've heard this soo often on other help channels ;)
14:33<mcsmurf>but after two hours of waiting i gave up
14:33<sfr>mcsmurf: :)
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14:38<sfr>mcsmurf: i'm not an expert with myth code, but afaik Xv is required.
14:39<mcsmurf>ok forget my question
14:39<mcsmurf>i just found out that i have another issue first
14:39<mcsmurf>i thought it was the overlay problem that i have a black screen (was so in xawtv)
14:39<mcsmurf>but now lsmod shows me that my tv driver module is unused
14:39<sfr>no, it's probably an audio issue.
14:40<mcsmurf>nono tv :)
14:40<mdz>mcsmurf: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
14:41<mcsmurf>well there i also got problems with myfilldatabase
14:41<mcsmurf>because it said everything conflicts with everything *g*
14:42<mcsmurf>BenB pointed me to this program BTW
14:47<mattfelsen>does the time flash for anyone when you change the selection in schedule recordings -> program guide? (NOT when you bring up the guide from live tv)
14:48<mcsmurf>for example it says
14:48<mcsmurf>removing conflicting program: 1.orf.at Kinder-TV ORF 1 20030910060000 CET-20030910075500 CET
14:48<mcsmurf>conflicted with : 1.orf.at Schl\xFCmpfe 20030910060000 CET-20030910062500 CET
14:49<mcsmurf>or
14:49<mcsmurf>removing conflicting program: festival.ard.de Theodor Chindler 20030913180000 CET-20030913185800 CET
14:49<mcsmurf>conflicted with : festival.ard.de Theodor Chindler 20030913180000 CET-20030913185800 CET
14:50<mcsmurf>it makes everything conflict
14:52<sfr>mcsmurf: check the start/stop times. you're updating already existing program info, so of course it conflicts.
14:53<sfr>mcsmurf: mythfilldatabase doesn't care if an identical entry already exists.
14:53<mcsmurf>but i updated the database for the first time
14:55<sfr>mcsmurf: i highly doubt that. Or maybe your xmltv file lists these entries twice?
14:56<mcsmurf>hm ok how can i clear that databse?
14:58<sfr>mcsmurf: you could run setup again, but that clears _everything_. but i'd ignore these 'conflicts' messages for now.
15:00<sfr>but as mdz pointed out, i'm sure Ben also pointed you to : http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall :)
15:01<mcsmurf>no
15:01<mcsmurf>he pointed me only to his website *g*
15:01<mcsmurf>and said he needed 10 days to get it working
15:02<sfr>his website i guess, getting mythtv to work is a brease. :)
15:02<sfr>ahem, s/brease/breeze/ for native speakers
15:05<mcsmurf>hm
15:05<mcsmurf>--file <sourceid> <offset> <xmlfile>
15:05<mcsmurf> Bypass the grabbers and read data directly from a file
15:05<mcsmurf> <sourceid> = cardinput
15:05<mcsmurf>what's the sourceid i need here?!
15:06<mcsmurf>that one from setup (Video Source Name?)
15:06<sfr>how many tuners did you configure with myth? if only one then it should be 1.
15:08<mcsmurf>well same again everything conflicts, ok lets ignore this
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15:32<mdz>he still hasn't read the howto
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15:33<sfr>b/c of the sourceid question? didn't find it either on a first glance, but i seem to have some focus problems today :)
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15:40<mattfelsen>any idea why fonts are still blocky for me?
15:46<mattfelsen>also, is it better/easier/worth the money to build an ir receiver or buy one?
15:48<sfr>mattfelsen: it's quite simple to build it yourself.
15:50<mattfelsen>is there a recommended howto or should i just google for it?
15:50<sfr>Yes ;)
15:50<mattfelsen>to which part?
15:51<rozo>Anyone know how to get the video into the mythtv?
15:52<rozo>i have a movie in /var/lib/mythvideo
15:52<rozo>but mythtv doesn't see it
15:52<sfr>mattfelsen: both
15:52<mattfelsen>ok...so where's the recommended one?
15:53<mattfelsen>rozo: did you set the path in the mythvideo setup?
15:53<rozo>yes
15:53<mattfelsen>heh, i don't know what to do beyond that
15:53<rozo>are only certain file formats allowed?
15:56<thor_>rozo, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-17.html
15:58<rozo>thor_: that tells me how to install it, which i've already done. It doesn't tell me how to USE mythvideo.
15:58<thor_>mythfrontend, setup, video
15:58<rozo>i'm there now and all it says is what directory to look for videos
15:59<rozo>i have a mpg in that directory
15:59<rozo>but it doesn't seem to see it
15:59<thor_>mythfrontend, Video, Video Manager
15:59<rozo>says no videos
16:00<rozo>I'm wondering if the file name needs to be in a specific format or maybe it only reads certain extensions?
16:02<thor_>depends, on your settings ... mythfronted, Steup, Video Settings, File Types
16:03<thor_>you did install the database as per the README ?
16:05<rozo>the database was already there
16:05<rozo>hmm...
16:05<rozo>i don't have a File Types section
16:05<thor_>ah, you running a 0.11 package (not from source)?
16:05<rozo>yes, .11
16:05<rozo>i'll go grab the CVS
16:06<thor_>rozo, mythvideo cvs requires mythtv cvs
16:07<rozo>okay
16:07<thor_>probably something very simple ... would give reasonable odds that the directory you specified is not quite correct
16:08<rozo>i'll try mythvideo cvs with .11, if it doesn't work i'll try upgrading mythtv cvs. It took me so long to get mythtv working, I don't want to mess with it :)
16:09<mattfelsen>can anyone else access http://www.pinnacle.tv/?
16:10<rozo>I can't.
16:11<mattfelsen>ok, so it's not just me
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16:40<Chutt>thor, did you look at that mythvideo patch set?
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17:01<_rkulagow>chutt: can you sync docs please?
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17:04<linagee>weird. that's the first time that's happened. wrong tv guide information...
17:05<linagee>maybe a baseball game or something messed things up
17:06<harrih>Anyone use Mplayer with irxevent, I've had problems with it lately. It will not take irxevent keycommands anymore, if I change the currentwindow from .lircrc to MPlayer it works, so I guess it is some kind of focus issue, I use fluxbox, mplayer used to work just fine with irxevent awhile ago
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17:28<monkeyBox>uh.. this is strange.. I'm getting this mysql error when I start up mythbackend: ERROR 1030: Got error 28 from table handler
17:29<mcsmurf>i suppose i change the channels on TV with up/down key?
17:29<sfr>mcsmurf: read keys.txt
17:29<monkeyBox>anyone know what that error means?
17:30<mcsmurf>ok well
17:30<mcsmurf>there the tv image just goes black
17:30<mikegrb>monkeyBox: did your computer get shut off with out shutting down?
17:31<mikegrb>mcsmurf: have you setup the sound first? do you get any error messages on the console after you exit ?
17:31<sfr>mcsmurf: did you manage with mythfilldatabase?
17:31<monkeyBox>oh wait.. I think I see the problem.. error #28 means "no space left on device" ..
17:31<mikegrb>monkeyBox: :-)
17:31<monkeyBox>heh.. df / shows 100% use :p
17:31<mikegrb>monkeyBox: might check your log files
17:31<sfr>mokeyBox: logging all mysql queries? :)
17:32<monkeyBox>not that I know of... perhaps my drive didn't get mounted and it's writing recordied movies to the root disk :p
17:32<monkeyBox>hmm.. nope.. that's not it. df /pvr shows 3% use.
17:33<mikegrb>monkeyBox: is var on your root partition?
17:33<mcsmurf>yes
17:33<mikegrb>oh
17:33<mcsmurf>or errr no
17:33<mikegrb>bad joojoo
17:33<monkeyBox>yeah it is
17:33<mcsmurf>but i manage to get a tc picture now *g*
17:33<mcsmurf>i still conflicts at every broadcast
17:34<mcsmurf>so i get an empty epg
17:34<monkeyBox>/var/log is only 1.1GB... I have 40GB on my root partition
17:34<sfr>mcsmurf: somewhere you messed up :)
17:34<mikegrb>monkeyBox: okay just a sec I'll get you a nice command to use to help
17:35<monkeyBox>mikegrb: thanks!
17:36<monkeyBox>It's always tough for me to find out what's using up the most space on my HD...
17:37<mcsmurf>well :)
17:40<mikegrb>monkeyBox: might try "du -ks /* | sort -rn"
17:40<mikegrb>might take a bit of time and get a few errors from proc but it will list each of the topic level dirs and there size in kb with the biggest at the top
17:41<monkeyBox>oh, cool.. thanks :)
17:41<mikegrb>actually what might be better
17:42<mikegrb>replace the * with a list of dirs to check eg cd to / and then do "du -ks home var etc | sort -rn"
17:42<monkeyBox>will count mounted volumes as well?
17:42<mikegrb>just leave dev proc and that sort of stuff off
17:43<mikegrb>yes, that's why I suggest the 2nd one, name the dir's you want included
17:43<monkeyBox>what's the -k flag do?
17:43<mcsmurf>sfr: mysql_4_ can't mess things up?
17:44<mikegrb>got it, use -x to skip other filesystems
17:44<mikegrb>monkeyBox: sets the block size to 1k
17:44<sfr>mcsmurf: no. i'm using it myself.
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17:45<mcsmurf>well some things are messed up *g*
17:46<mcsmurf>it has many broadcasts, but no senders
17:48<sfr>mcsmurf: you didn't setup your tv channels?
17:49<mcsmurf>not that i know, but i imported my xawtv file
17:49<sfr>mcsmurf: with mythfilldatabase --xawtv ...?
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17:49<mcsmurf>yes
17:50<mcsmurf>output was
17:50<mcsmurf>mcsmurf@mcsmurf:~$ mythfilldatabase --xawchannels 1 /home/mcsmurf/.xawtv
17:50<mcsmurf>### reading channels from xawtv configfile
17:50<mcsmurf>QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
17:50<mcsmurf>QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
17:50<mcsmurf>Adjusting program database end times...
17:50<mcsmurf>0 replacements made.
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17:52<sfr>mcsmurf: you could empty the program and programrating tables and start over. this will only delete all program info from the mythconverg database.
17:53<sfr>mcsmurf: before, maybe check if you have any channels defined. wanna try this?
17:53<mcsmurf>how do i find out?
17:54<mcsmurf>the program itself hangs when changing the channel
17:54<sfr>mcsmurf: to check the channels type: 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' password should be mythtv.
17:55<sfr>mcsmurf: in a terminal on your db server of course.
17:55<mcsmurf>ok
17:56<sfr>mcsmurf: so now you have the mysql> prompt?
17:56<mcsmurf>yes
17:57<sfr>ok, type 'select * from channel;' and check if in the output there are any channels defined.
17:58<mcsmurf>there are
17:58<mcsmurf>| 1001 | | | 1 | | SWR | /root/.mythtv/channels/s32_sw.gif | 0 | NULL | swr.de | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 |
17:58<mcsmurf>[...]
18:00<sfr>mcsmurf: are you sure columns 2 and 3 are empty?
18:01<mcsmurf>yes...
18:01<mcsmurf>because of that it could hang :/...
18:02<sfr>mcsmurf: in live-tv, yes i think so. column 3 contains the channel (E5, S21 you know...)
18:02<mcsmurf>wait
18:02<mcsmurf>| 1079 | E5 | E5 | 1 | Kabel 1 | Kabel 1 | | 0 | NULL | Kabel 1 | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768
18:03<mcsmurf>aaah
18:03<mcsmurf>that table is a mixture from channels i have
18:03<mcsmurf>and i dont
18:03<sfr>mcsmurf: you really have ~80 different channels?
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18:04<mcsmurf>the ones with channel are from xawtv
18:04<mcsmurf>and the others-don't know where they come from
18:04<sfr>mcsmurf: You know, you inserted them :)
18:04<mcsmurf>nope
18:05<mcsmurf>i haven't Disney Channel *g*
18:05<sfr>mcsmurf: you compiled from source?
18:05<mcsmurf>hm
18:06<monkeyBox>mikegrb: the | sort -m doesn't seem to sort correnctly
18:06<monkeyBox>oh oops
18:06<monkeyBox>that was -rn ...
18:06<monkeyBox>heh
18:08<mcsmurf>how can i delete a line with sql?
18:08<mcsmurf>(in a table)
18:10<sfr>mcsmurf: e.g. delete from channel where chanid=E5; BUT: the where clause better matches only on the line you want to delete, otherwise ...
18:10<mcsmurf>ok got it
18:10<mcsmurf>delete from channel where channum="";
18:10<mcsmurf>gotta go now
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18:11<sfr>hm, maybe Ben shouldn't only recommend myth, but also help get it installed.
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18:22<tmk>hey pvr-350 junkies: new decoder code is available
18:22<tmk>should be much more stable
18:22<tmk>and does encode/decode at same time quite well
18:22<Chutt>great
18:22<Chutt>what were you saying about rolling back some other code?
18:22<tmk>chutt: i'll get on that api now :)
18:27<tmk>chutt: you've got mail
18:27<Chutt>yes, i do
18:29<Chutt>actually, it doesn't look all that bad
18:29<Chutt>it's against code of a couple weeks ago, but..
18:30<tmk>yeah he's got some skillz, no doubt about it
18:30<tmk>does it use your GOP stuff and all that?
18:30<Chutt>yeah
18:30<Chutt>that's what i was going to do
18:30<Chutt>he added a bunch of debugging crap
18:31<Chutt>and reformated some code
18:31<Chutt>so i wouldn't accept the patch as is, but..
18:31<Chutt>looks like it's a start
18:31<tmk>yeah he's all about reformatting, heh
18:33<Chutt>and i'd do some stuff differently
18:33<Chutt>well, 'bout half of it
18:33<Chutt>but, whatever
18:33<Chutt>it's a starting point =)
18:34<tmk>yeah
18:34<Chutt>i've got the cle266 decoder working to my satisfaction, pretty much.
18:34<tmk>cool
18:34<tmk>when can i test it?
18:34<Chutt>i just wish i had an extra tv i could stick in here
18:34<Chutt>doh
18:34<tmk>:D
18:36<tmk>does it just do svideo out?
18:37<Chutt>i believe it does composite through an adapter
18:37<Chutt>oh, no, it does do composite
18:37<Chutt>the spdif output plug switches between audio and composite out with a jumper on the board, i believe
18:37<tmk>ah yea
18:37<tmk>i remember reading about htat
18:40<Chutt>the decoder's fairly weird
18:40<Chutt>i'd think it would take more load off the cpu than it does
18:40<Chutt>it only cuts decoding time in half, about
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18:49<tmk>wierd
18:49<tmk>cause of all the slicing?
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18:50<Chutt>i dunno
18:51<Chutt>parsing the stream out and decoding the audio shouldn't take 30% cpu
18:51<tmk>is it DMA?
18:51<Chutt>i dunno
18:51<Chutt>i think not
18:51<tmk>ah
18:52<tmk>that's the problem
18:52<Chutt>the slice data's probably getting copied all over the place
18:52<tmk>aye
18:52<tmk>so you decode the audio on your own eh
18:52<tmk>how do you synch it?
18:53<Chutt>same way i sync everything else
18:53<Chutt>the decoded frame gets a timestamp
18:53<Chutt>i tell it when to show each frame
18:53<Chutt>etc
18:55<tmk>ahso
18:58<Chutt>email sent to the sclug guy
18:58<Chutt>sorry for taking so long on that
19:00<tmk>np
19:01<tmk>it's nice to have proper locking
19:02<tmk>so many fewer lockups
19:02<Chutt>heh
19:02<Chutt>that's in the new tarball?
19:02<tmk>yeah
19:02<tmk>decoder's having an issue sometimes tho
19:02<tmk>seems to be a race of some kind
19:02* tmk hunts it down
19:02<tmk>could be my slow box
19:02<tmk>or it could be that it's not apparent BECAUSE my box is slow heh
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19:17<Chutt>heh
19:17<Chutt>200MB of debian updates
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19:20<tmk>that's a lot
19:21<Chutt>been a month or so
19:22<tmk>i s'pose
19:22<tmk>ima go give the serial port on my cable box a go
19:22<tmk>i found scripts on the mythtv list
19:25<tmk>or not
19:25<tmk>no serial port
19:25<tmk>hrm :x
19:25<Chutt>heh
19:25<tmk>does the epia have ir supprot
19:25<Chutt>dunno
19:30<monkeyBox>tmk: the epia-m has onboard fast ir
19:30<tmk>thx
19:30<tmk>does it come with the headers and such
19:30<tmk>or is it just pins on the mobo
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19:32<Chutt>i should put up a 'mythtv dev machines' page
19:32<Chutt>with my hardware configs and stuff
19:32<Chutt>now that i have my main box in a nicer case =)
19:32<brunes>hello.. since upgrading to 0.11, whenever I go into Watch TV mode, Myth sets the recording level of my tvt tuner mixer to 100. This causes vastly distorted sound because the gain si way too high. Anyone know whats the cause of this all of a sudden / how to turn it off? I can manually launch my mixer app and adjust it back down, but doing this eevry time I go inton watch tv is a pain, not ot mention recordings no longer
19:33<Chutt>brunes, try changing the value at line 870 of libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp to something lower
19:34<brunes>va.volume = 65535;
19:34<brunes>was this lower before 0.11 ?
19:35<Chutt>believe so, yes
19:35<brunes>when I set it to around 50 or 55 it is perfect
19:35<brunes>so that would be around 32768
19:35<Chutt>give it a try
19:35<brunes>blah, need to compile myself. i was using the debian packages. Oh well.
19:35<Chutt>heh
19:36<brunes>well wait a sec...
19:36<brunes> if ((volume == -1 && va.volume < 32768) || volume != -1)
19:36<brunes> {
19:36<brunes> if (volume == -1)
19:36<brunes> va.volume = 65535; // no more silence 8-)
19:36<sfr>brunes, just use the deb-source packages, then.
19:36<brunes>so.. if I had pre-set the volume to sa, 33000, it would not adjust it?
19:36<Chutt>volume is always -1
19:36<brunes>oh :/
19:36<Chutt>i believe
19:37<Chutt>give it a try, though.
19:37<brunes>will do
19:42<tmk>hey chutt, what brand of remote does the hauppauge stuff need
19:42<Chutt>rc-5 protocol
19:42<tmk>i just have a universal, was it philips?
19:43<Chutt>older philips/marantz i believe
19:51<brunes>weird, that line has nto changed in some time
20:00<sfr>Chutt, interested in a bt of mythbackend? It segfaulted when exiting live-tv. Should be complete i hope. Btw, i'll wipe my frontends installation and install again with debugging.
20:00<Chutt>sure
20:00<Chutt>off-list?
20:00<sfr>in #flood?
20:01<Chutt>naw, just email it to ijr@speakeasy.net
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20:02<sfr>ok, will send it in a minute.
20:02<davipt>uhm, how did I miss this channel before ??? Hi people
20:03<tmk>hi
20:04<davipt>my name is Bruno Rodrigues, I've been sending i18n/l10n patches to the list ;)
20:08<brunes>Chutt: Thatd didnt fix it:( Mor eof a description... I can run aumix against my tvaudio mixer, and watch the mixer volue go from 50 to 100 as soon as I select "Watch TV". Then when I ESC from Watch TV, it goes right back to 50
20:08<brunes>excuse my horrible typing
20:09<sfr>Chutt, on the backend i made a full 'release' installation of cvs, and later replaced libmyth.so... and mythbackend with debugging versions. Is that ok or am i'm missing something. Note that i was using a remote frontend.
20:09<Chutt>sfr, depends
20:09<Chutt>brunes, weird. dunno what to tell you
20:09<Chutt>try turning off the internal volume controls.
20:09<Chutt>that's the only other place it touches the mixer.
20:10<sfr>Chutt, on?
20:10<Chutt>sfr, if the bt is good or not =)
20:10<mikegrb>heh
20:10<sfr>Chutt, i'm asking because it still says 'missing symbol information' for some threads.
20:11<Chutt>yeah
20:11<Chutt>i need that information
20:11<brunes>argh wait
20:11<brunes>stupid dpkg-buildpackage did nto work
20:11<Chutt>and i don't know to fix it missing.
20:11<brunes>it susing the old lib still
20:11<sfr>Chutt, so it's not good. :(
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20:13<sfr>Chutt. ok, i have to leave that to you to decide. the mail is out.
20:15<Chutt>still have it in gdb?
20:15<sfr>ahem, no sorry.
20:16<Chutt>ah
20:16<Chutt>well
20:17<Chutt>the information was there
20:17<sfr>i'm sure i'll get a 2nd chance :)
20:17<Chutt>i needed to see something else, though
20:17<brunes>Chutt: Assuming this does fix it, I'd suggest it should probably be in the config somewhere, or at least a param you can pass to mythbackend
20:17<sfr>so this bt looks ok?
20:17<brunes>I can't be the only person this distorts the audio for
20:17<Chutt>no, but the thread that died was mostly ok.
20:17<Chutt>brunes, you're the only person that's said anything
20:17<brunes>weird
20:18<sfr>what again happened with the sound? i also use myth internal sound controls.
20:19<brunes>i dont us einternal sound controls
20:19<brunes>my sound goes through my amp
20:19<brunes>but the audio was totally distored because the recording gain was set at 100%
20:20<sfr>brunes: in alsamixer the capture device?
20:20<brunes>I dont use alsa, but yes, in the tvaudio mixer
20:20<brunes>not the mian SC mixer
20:21<brunes>s/mian/main
20:21<sfr>hm, i don't use tvaudio.
20:21<brunes>well
20:21<brunes>tvaudio just shows you what the v4l is set at really
20:21<brunes>thats all Iwa susing it for
20:22<brunes>to figure out what was going on... I don't usually load it either
20:22<brunes>er, I mean tvmixer. I always load tvaudio :P
20:23<Chutt>tmk, got an email back, they're happy to send to you =)
20:24<sfr>brunes: to make things clear in my mind, tvaudio is used for tv-cards that don't require a separate soundcard?
20:25<brunes>no... tvaudio lets the aound go directly over the pci bus to your soundcard.. I think anyways :P
20:25<davipt>sfr: my card also has it's own sound card input, btaudio, and I can make mythtv read from btaudio and output to sound card
20:25<brunes>all I know is I need it for audio
20:26<davipt>sfr: alternativly, I can plug tv sound out to soundcard line in and capture from dsp, but this requires bidirectional support from /dev/dsp driver and I haven't yet compiled alsa (oss is too slow)
20:26<sfr>davipt: Aha, so you don't need an external audio cable from the tv-card to the soundcard.
20:26<brunes>right
20:27<davipt>sfr: for myth, no :)
20:27<sfr>so the non-requirement of bidirectional support in /dev/dsp is the only advantage?
20:27<davipt>sfr: now if I could define the same video input and two different sound devices so I can see tv and see s-video input ...
20:28<sfr>davipt: i see
20:28<davipt>sfr: yep, and you capture it "more digital" - means one less hop in digital (nicam) -> analog, linein, digital
20:29<brunes>sfr: Well you get better audio quality going diretc over pci
20:31<linagee>why is it when viewing an mpeg2 made with my pvr250 on windows media player, the fast forward and rewind don't work? is there no index in the mpeg2 stream or something?
20:33<knight->hi
20:35<sfr>ok, it's quite late (or early) over here, i go to bed. cu
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20:39<knight->heh
20:39<knight->shhhhh
20:47<tmk>chutt: ah great
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20:49<brunes>Chutt: Fix ed it. thx
20:49<brunes>now to figure out why lirc doesnt work now
21:03<Chutt>hrm
21:03<Chutt>the mythweb recorded programs bit doesn't work for me
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21:06<ForsGump>hello
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21:29<tmk>ahh remote control computer
21:29<tmk>how good it is
21:30<mikegrb>:-)
21:38<thor_>That Isaac guy is cross posting again .... sheesh !
21:38<Chutt>yeah
21:38<Chutt>oh well
21:40<davipt>tmk: my tvbox doesn't have keyboard at all :|
21:40<davipt>:| = :)
21:40<tmk>cool
21:40<davipt>of course sometimes I have to use x2x to go there press some key ;)
21:40<brunes>argh, what the hell happened ot my lirc
21:41<brunes>I did an apt-get upgrade today and poof, done as dinner
21:41<tmk>anyone know what the format of a PTS timestamp is?
21:42<davipt>PTS ?
21:42<davipt> QString vidnum = tr("The law of the exluded middle is officially OVER!");
21:42<tmk>program time stamp i believe
21:42<davipt>what does this means in mythvideo ?
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21:53<brunes>the law of the excluded middle is over?? lol
21:53<brunes>time to re-take that logic course :P
21:53<davipt>uh ?
21:53<brunes>the law o the excluded middle is "Every statement is either true or false.. there is no middle"
21:54<davipt>uhm, not translatated to Portuguese :P
21:55<brunes>i duno wtf that woud have to do with mythvideo :P
21:56<davipt>it should appear if no video is found, let me try
21:59<davipt>lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
21:59<davipt>I got it now
22:00<brunes>what is it?
22:00<davipt>if(x>0) ...
22:00<davipt>else ...
22:00<davipt>both blocks overrides that QString
22:01<davipt>so, the string is initialized with a "middle" value that dies in the logic below
22:01<brunes>thats weird...
22:01<brunes>why alloc it for no reason.. thats inefficient
22:01<davipt>that's a joke ;)
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22:24<knight->Too bad my Keytronics wireless keyboard/mouse combo doesnt work in linux really :)
22:27<davipt>why ? isn't it a regular ps2 key/mouse ?
22:37<knight->well
22:37<knight->it is
22:37<knight->erm
22:37<knight->usb
22:37<knight->the keyboard works in console (sort of)
22:37<knight->not all keys are recognized right
22:37<knight->doesnt work in X at all
22:37<knight->and the mouse features arent detected
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22:48<dsotm>anyone installed mythtv on debian before?
22:48<davipt>me
22:48<dsotm>whats easier
22:48<dsotm>stable, or unstable
22:49<davipt>uhm, I'm for unstable, even in my production servers ;)
22:49<dsotm>hahaha
22:49<dsotm>well, im a little more pragmatic than that
22:49<dsotm>also, i had some SERIOUS trouble getting the database setup
22:49<dsotm>any caveats you know of?
22:50<davipt>err, I had to build it by hand
22:50<dsotm>hmm
22:50<dsotm>ok
22:50<dsotm>i was going for quick and dirty
22:50<davipt>I don't have a tv_grab_pt file and I wasn't able to see any channel at all until I rebuilt it
22:51<dsotm>um
22:51<dsotm>ok sure
22:51<dsotm>i havent even gotten that far yet
22:52<davipt>what I mean is that mythtv-setup demanded a tv_grab program and I had to "try" tv_grab_es and got my DB in a total mess ;)
22:52<dsotm>aghewljgwe
22:52<dsotm>this cant be that tough
22:53<dsotm>rather, it shouldnt be
22:53<davipt>now I see it simple, I don't understand what have I done at that time
22:54<dsotm>well
22:54<dsotm>its always that way
22:55<dsotm>once you figure it out
22:55<dsotm>you can do it over and over again
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22:56<mattfelsen>i did an instant recording earlier and the frontend froze. i restarted the frontend and deleted the recording in progress, but the backend is still recording. rebooting didn't fix the problem either. how do i get it to stop recording?
22:57<davipt>oh, I've been there!
22:58<davipt>it's something in db, anything in record table?
23:00<mattfelsen>yea
23:00<mattfelsen>delete it?
23:00<davipt>yep, then restart backend and frontend, I guess that's what I've done
23:04<dsotm>how about this - anyone done a debian install from the debs listed on the mythtv.org webpage
23:05<mattfelsen>i have
23:05<mattfelsen>but i use cvs now
23:05<dsotm>did you have trouble with the inital database setup?
23:05<mattfelsen>nope
23:05<dsotm>hm
23:05<dsotm>ok
23:06<mattfelsen>if mdz is around, i'm sure he can help
23:06<dsotm>well no stress rightnowthisminute
23:06<dsotm>im reinstalling debian
23:06<dsotm>sooooo itll be a while
23:07<mattfelsen>a while? takes me 20 mins
23:07<dsotm>net install
23:07<dsotm>not CD
23:08<mattfelsen>ah
23:08<mattfelsen>i always use jigdo
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23:17<Morph>evening.
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23:18<heavy>howdy
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23:27<heavy>anyone here using gentoo? i'm not able to emerge avifile which is needed for the mjpegtools for transcoding to svcd
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