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00:02<phar0e>howdy
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00:11<Bishop>how do i save a playlist to a custom name?
00:11<thor_>Bishop, hit Enter/Space/Return on Active Play Queue
00:15<Bishop>aren't enter and return same bottons? mot getting the option.
00:15<Bishop>not getting the option
00:16<thor_>what option? Scroll down the list view until Active Play Queue is the selected item, hit Enter or Space
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00:45<cbreen>anyone running a wintv250?
00:45<cbreen>i'm dropping frames
00:45<cbreen>need help eliminating that problem
00:53<tmk>sure
00:53<tmk>how do you know you're dropping frames
00:55<cbreen>its in dmesg
00:55<tmk>that's normal when a recording ends
00:55<cbreen>i think the problem is in mplayers decoding
00:55<cbreen>i'm doing someting like
00:55<tmk>it's only an issue if it happens during recording
00:55<cbreen>mplayer /dev/video0 -vo dfbmga
00:55<cbreen>so its recording and playing at the same time
00:56<tmk>yeah
00:56<tmk>you need to buffer it
00:56<tmk>mplayer -cache 4096
00:56<tmk>i do mplayer -framedrop -cache 4096
00:56<cbreen>i tried -cache 8192 with similar results
00:56<cbreen>ok
00:56<tmk>well if you tried8192
00:56<cbreen>i'll try that next time
00:56<tmk>how fast is your box
00:56<cbreen>600 mhz
00:57<tmk>and what res mpg
00:57<cbreen>ntsc
00:57<cbreen>full
00:57<cbreen>too big?
00:57<tmk>that might be a little on the slow side
00:57<tmk>definately use the framedrop option
00:57<cbreen>hrm
00:57<tmk>have you tried increasing the # of buffers?
00:57<cbreen>no where can i do that?
00:58<tmk>run 'modinfo ivtv'
00:58<cbreen>sweet
00:58<tmk>it's a module load option for now
00:58<cbreen>my box is deal for some reason
00:58<cbreen>my box is dead, rather
00:58<cbreen>can't ssh in
00:58<tmk>hmm
00:58<tmk>also, the decoder-alpha release of ivtv has fewer problems
00:58<tmk>i recommend using that
00:58<cbreen>yeah, mplayer has been freezing up on my since i actually built the rtc
00:58<cbreen>i dunno
00:59<cbreen>does win 250 (w/ heatsink) have decoder power?
00:59<cbreen>as the website suggests?
00:59<tmk>it does, but it's not usuable currently
00:59<tmk>and likely will not be
00:59<cbreen>ahhh
00:59<cbreen>just not wired onto the card bus?
00:59<tmk>it's wired
00:59<tmk>but the firmware doesn't make it accessible
00:59<cbreen>lovely
01:00<tmk>it's designed to send yuv out the backside
01:00<tmk>not to us.. if we knew where in memory the yuv frames were
01:00<tmk>we could grab them from there
01:00<cbreen>nice...well maybe one day someone will figure it out
01:00<cbreen>that would be sweet
01:00<cbreen>i have a dxr2 card
01:00<cbreen>do you think thats worth adding to the mix?
01:01<tmk>are you happy with your tv-out?
01:01<cbreen>i really like direct fb over g400
01:01<cbreen>yeah, i am
01:01<tmk>well, try 640x480 or 480x480 resolution
01:01<cbreen>alright
01:01<cbreen>thats fair
01:01<tmk>does the g400 deinterlace?
01:01<cbreen>i don't know
01:01<cbreen>i don't think so by default
01:01<cbreen>you need to patch the source to get that working i think
01:02<cbreen>it is possible, though hardware wise i belive
01:03<cbreen>well thank you for the info
01:03<tmk>sure. take care
01:03<tmk>#ivtv-dev for more ivtv questionts btw
01:03<cbreen>i'll have to hook up monitor cables to see what in the heck is wrong with my box now :)
01:03<tmk>let's not flood #mythtv
01:03<cbreen>ahh
01:03<cbreen>thx
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01:24<Bishop>what command shows hd accesses?
01:25<tmk>vmstat 1
01:26<tmk>that'll print out io stats every second
01:26<tmk>i think that's what you wan
01:26<tmk>t
01:27<tmk>chutt: you around?
01:28<Bishop>any plans for dvd menu support?
01:28<thor_>ogle
01:33<kwenda>ha... who wrote the code for the OSD for the CC text?
01:34<kwenda>i love the substitution of the music symbol for o/~
01:35<Bishop>anyone seen a nice tutorial on turning off all the autorun stuff in kde and disabling all he apmd stuff.
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01:36<Bishop>i hate haveing kde apps pop up when i insert cd's and haveing apm shutdown the "monitor" while watching tv.
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01:42<kwenda>has anyone ever experienced audio buzzing when there's alot of brightness on the screen? mostly when running credits, or commercials with white backgrounds?
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01:53<helius>has anyone been able to apply streamzap.sourceforge.net patches to the latest lirc?
01:54<helius>none of the cvs snapshot release dates match up with the streamzap patches
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01:55<helius>Or, does anyone here have suggestions on an ir receiver/remote combo (I know... there are threads etc on the mailinglist but searching those is a pain in the arse)
01:57<helius>need something that works with lirc
02:01<kwenda>hmm... mythbackend keeps crashing- right after this:
02:01<kwenda>2003-09-30 00:27:57 adding: satellite as a player 1
02:01<kwenda>strange error flushing buffer ...
02:01<kwenda>VIDIOCSYNC: Input/output error
02:02<tmk>kwend: what card
02:03<kwenda>ive got 2 leadtek winfast's
02:03<kwenda>minus the apostrophe
02:05<kwenda>they're based on Bt878
02:20<tmk>sorry no idea
02:22<kwenda>its okay, i think its something to do with the network mount of the drive
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02:31<Bishop>i'd like to test out mythgames. i've found some sample roms, but myth can't seem to find them
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02:58<Bishop>can anyone recommend a tv out resolution for widescreen. 720 x 486 doesn;t work
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03:13<phar0e>odd, I have audio running at 44100Hz I believe when it should be at 32000..
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03:40<phar0e>no one awake? :<
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04:18<phar0e>anyone awake?
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04:54<frod>is a hollywood+ mpeg decoder any use for a means of output?
04:55<frod>I really I'd only get the mpeg stream if it worked at all
04:55<frod>s/really/realise/
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06:22<o_cee>frod: not possible.
06:22<frod>okI'll try freevo then
06:34<o_cee>the osd handling on the h+ is very bad, the best you'll get is VDR
06:34<o_cee>it was intended for displaying subtitles
06:36<frod>I'm not really bothered about OSD
06:36<frod>so long as the web backend is useable
06:39<frod>I suppose if someone could just recommend a good cheap VGA card that I could use instead then I'll go with that
06:39<o_cee>trust me, you need the osd in order to use myth
06:39<o_cee>i use a geforce fx5200
06:40<frod>I currently have an S3 2000 and a matrox g550, but both of these have caveats according to the website
06:40<frod>isn't that a new nvidia card?
06:41<frod>~50GBP
06:41<frod>not too bad I suppose
06:43<o_cee>mine costed like 800SEK = 88\x80
06:43<frod>I don't suppose it's fanless?
06:44<o_cee>sure it us
06:44<o_cee>is
06:45<frod>ooh
06:45<frod>what brand is that?
06:45<o_cee>gainward
06:46<o_cee>but they're all the same
06:46<frod>ok
06:46<frod>I've had a 2mx in the past which was fanless when most weren't
06:46<frod>well
06:46<frod>it wasn't just fanless
06:46<frod>it had no heatsink at all
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09:17<o_cee>any apache guru here?
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10:51<kvandivo>got a ton of errors with mythfilldatabase overnight about duplicate entries in programratings. i had run mythfill manually at some point yesterday.. never give me duplicate problems before with the programratings table, though
10:53<kvandivo>not just programratings, actually.. also program. I did change one thing yesterday. I changed my cronjob time to run at 11:59 pm. I wonder if the code is getting confused because of the date change while running. I'll have to look into that.
10:54<o_cee>might be so
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11:04<thor_>Chutt (or anyone else), is there a Qt way to do signal handling (HUP, TERM, etc.)?
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11:10<poo>hey does mythTV use the H264 codec?
11:10<warlord>i dont think so..
11:11<poo>it used mpeg2 i think
11:11<poo>s/used/uses
11:12<kvandivo>from typing 'mythtv h264' into google it reveals that there -are- files with h264 in the name in the mythtv source tree. additional investigation is left to the interested reader
11:13<warlord>it definitely uses mpg2, mpg4, an rtjpeg.
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11:25<monkeyBox>I'm curious, is anyone out there planning on creating a WAP version of mythweb?
11:25<monkeyBox>..If not, I'm going to start work on one. I've always felt like it would be sweet to be able to schedule recordings from my phone :)
11:25<kvandivo>a search on google for 'mythweb wap' reveals some archive logs about that issue
11:25<monkeyBox>hmm
11:26<warlord>monkeyBox: have you looked in the -dev archives -- there was a script to control myth via SMS
11:27<monkeyBox>hmm. haven't seen that either. Although it would be nice to have a good interface.
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11:29<monkeyBox>I don't think it would be impossible to implement a WAP interface. "JAC" seems to think not, but I've developed several WAP applications and you just have to get a little creative when thinking of ways to slim down an interface without getting too much overhead
11:29<monkeyBox>oops not "JAC" I mean "Emil"
11:31<monkeyBox>If I made a WAP interface, I would make it only have a few functionalities. You wouldn't be able to browse channel listings easily, but usually when you're wanting to record a show from our phone you already know what show it is...
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11:32<monkeyBox>..So you could just have a search function, or a simple "enter channel/timeslot to record"
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11:44<monkeyBox>Oh well, at the least I'll just make one for myself.
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12:23<mikegrb>hello drikus, I got the cron job setup now :) There was also some weird problem it didn't log for the last week couldn't figure out why... it was only this channel too. Should be all better now
12:28<Drikus>mikegrb: ah thanks.
12:28* Drikus is checking
12:29<Drikus>working great!. again thanks.
12:30<mikegrb>no prob like I said no clue why it stopped but I cycled this channel and it started again
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12:48<Snow-Man>sfr: hey, you out there?
12:53<sfr>Snow-Man: yes. Hi.
12:54<Snow-Man>sfr: Are you the guy who keeps starting up cvs connections?
12:56<sfr>Snow-Man: No. Are they originating from t-dialin host?
12:56<Snow-Man>yes
12:57<sfr>Snow-Man: got an ip?
12:57<Snow-Man>pD9516F81.dip.t-dialin.net
12:57<Snow-Man>He had like 7 of them going at once.
13:00<sfr>Snow-Man: you got me nervous for a second. But i didn't update for a few days.
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13:16<Snow-Man>heh.
13:19<thor_>oh, Chutt's putting in something big I think
13:19<dja>is that why the blank message?
13:19<thor_>new directory
13:19<thor_>....
13:19<dja>ahh
13:19<thor_>we'll see
13:19<dja>:-)
13:19<Chutt>no
13:20<Chutt>just moving stuff around
13:20<thor_>oh darn
13:20<thor_>well ... there's something big brewing here
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13:26<mikegrb>tmk: will audio on the avermedia M179 be supported in the future? is it something you need docs/a sample card for to get the audio chip working in ivtv?
13:27<tmk>it's already sort of working
13:27<tmk>just no audio
13:27<mikegrb>heh that's what I asked <g>
13:27<tmk>a sample card would help
13:27<tmk>err sorry didn't see that
13:27<mikegrb>that's okay
13:27<tmk>and also the mfgr giving me some hints would be nice
13:28<tmk>but if they'd give me a card, they'd probably give me a hint
13:28<tmk>that reminds me
13:28<tmk>i need to call adaptec again
13:28<tmk>they have a itvc card now too
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13:30<mikegrb>Thanks, I shall pass that information along
13:30<Chutt>thor, did you apply both mythmusic patches?
13:30<mikegrb>i c
13:30<mikegrb>er
13:31<thor_>two places where the descriptor needs to get destroyed
13:31<thor_>yes
13:31<Chutt>no, there were two patches from him.
13:31<thor_>ah, no
13:31<thor_>sorry
13:31<thor_>shall I fix that
13:31<Chutt>'segfault on long vorbis comments'
13:32<Chutt>he sent in an update version of that
13:32<Chutt>as well
13:32<thor_>k, I'll take care of it now
13:32<sfr>Chutt: about that mail i sent you: you got an idea or should i bother thor_ with it?
13:32<Chutt>i haven't had time to look at it yet
13:32<Chutt>i was going to this afternoon
13:33<sfr>ok
13:34<tmk>mornin chutt
13:34<tmk>also thor, mike, sfr :)
13:34<thor_>howdy
13:34<sfr>good evening, everyone
13:35<thor_>gooten note (?)
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14:30<Chutt>sfr, still here?
14:31<sfr>yes
14:31<Chutt>problem with your patch is that initialize() and start() aren't in streaminput.cpp
14:32<Chutt>you probably just want to make the stuff in the .h be like:
14:32<Chutt>virtual bool initialize() = 0;
14:32<Chutt>since you're overriding things with the stuff in ShoutcastStream anyway
14:33<sfr>one second :) what initialize() and start() again?
14:33<Chutt>in streaminput.h
14:34<Chutt>you're defining them as functions, but you don't have any bodies for them
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14:35<Chutt>you also don't have a destructor for shoutcaststream
14:35<Chutt>how 'bout i just send you a fixed patch?
14:36<kvandivo>doesn't normally go _that_ way. :)
14:36<sfr>i might accept it ;)
14:36<thor_>hmmmm .... sounds like net audio streaming .... yummy
14:39* kvandivo wishes diff was even smarter than it is about merging changes.
14:40<sfr>Chutt: thanks. i didn't work on it for a good few days. Strange that it compiles without error, grr. But does it like you could accept it, once it's working?
14:40<sfr>s/like/look like/
14:40<Chutt>sure
14:43* kvandivo studies Chutt's changes so that he can learn how their coding styles differ.
14:46<kvandivo>survey says: indentation is 4 spaces instead of 3; function declarations are frowned upon if the function is small, the fewer comments the better, if (x == #) is preferred over if (# == x)..
14:46<Chutt>function declarations aren't necessary if you don't move stuff around, rather
14:46<kvandivo>and, don't null out a pointer after deleting it.
14:47<Chutt>it didn't need to be
14:47<kvandivo>its a safety thing. it ensures that anyone that touches the code later will get a seg fault if they attempt to use the pointer later in the funtion. but, no.. it didn't need to be
14:47<thor_>NULL it out if anything is going to test it later. Happens a lot in many parts of the myth code.
14:48<Chutt>sfr, fix sent
14:48<sfr>kvandivo: "the fewer comments the better", i honestly disagree. But i add a :) not to start another discussion.
14:48<sfr>Chutt: ok
14:49<Chutt>it's more 'no non obvious comments'
14:50<thor_>but supercilious comments are heartily endorsed !
14:51<sfr>ok, but what 'obvious' is is subjective.
14:51<kvandivo>and on the function declarations, I had moved the bodies to the bottom of the file so that the 'important code', ie., the part that people will be changing was earlier in the file. but, again, it didn't need to be done
14:51<Chutt>moving stuff around is a big no-no
14:52<Chutt>unless it's your code originally
14:57<kvandivo>noted
15:14<sfr>anyone know if <tag/> is valid xml?
15:14<kvandivo>why wouldn't it be?
15:15<thor_><recycled_pickles/> is valid xml
15:15<warlord>I think it is..
15:15<warlord>It means you have a tag with no "data"?
15:15<sfr>kvandivo: i don't know. but xmltv doesn't like it, it seems. so it's the same as <tag></tag>
15:15<mikegrb>sfr: that is for stuff with no close tag
15:16<kvandivo>sounds like a parser problem.
15:16<warlord>sfr: try <tag />
15:16<sfr>ok, will try that.
15:17<sfr>btw, xsltproc creates that.
15:17<kvandivo>http://www.xml.com/pub/a/98/10/guide2.html#AEN179
15:17<yebyen>yarr!
15:18<thor_>hey, what day is it
15:18<kvandivo>most places, it is tuesday
15:18<mikegrb>are you okay thor_?
15:18<thor_>yebyen suddenly made me think it was talk like a pirate day ... darn, missed it again
15:19<mikegrb>heh
15:19<sfr>pirate day?
15:19<yebyen>thor_: heh, you lose
15:19<kvandivo>http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
15:20<sfr>kvandivo: now you are my personal bookmark keeper. :)
15:20* kvandivo struts proudly.
15:21<sfr>kvandivo: that island is NOT monkey island.
15:21* kvandivo giggles softly.
15:21<kvandivo>cluck cluck
16:07<warlord>I've got a show scheduled for tomorrow that is 'greyed out' becuase 'it conflicts with another program'..
16:08<warlord>I'm trying to un-grey it, but it wont let me.
16:08<kvandivo>you need to hit the keys harder. that will help.
16:08<warlord>:-P
16:08<warlord>"Yes, I want to record it" doesn't do anything.
16:11<kvandivo>"doesn't do anything", or "doesn't do anything obvious" ? does it go back to the conflict screen, or does it stay on that screen?
16:11<warlord>It goes back to the conflict screen but doesn't change anything.
16:12<warlord>I know I have an unscheduled encoder..
16:13<kvandivo>i trust you've looked at all the normal log locations? have you added logging to mysql to see what, if any, queries it is sending to the dbms?
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16:14<warlord>All I see in the backend log in "Found changes in the todo list."
16:14<warlord>Nothing in the frontend log.
16:15<warlord>No, I haven't turned on mysql debugging.
16:15<warlord>(how do I do that?)
16:16<kvandivo>add a log = line in [mysqld] in your my.cnf file, whereever it might happen to be.. /etc/ somewhere usually..
16:16<kvandivo>be aware that it will generate a lot of logging data..
16:16<warlord>:(
16:16<kvandivo>you probably will want it to be autopruned
16:17<kvandivo>(mine isn't.. haven't bothered yet.. and it is around 270 megs over the past few weeks)
16:17<kvandivo>i wouldn't recommend it to everyone.. but it can be a handy thing to see what queries, etc are getting sent to mysql
16:18<warlord>Hmm, can I start mysql while the backend is running, or do I have to restart all of myth?
16:18<kvandivo>oh, and that 270 megs is because i reduced the frequency of that SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = "RecordChanged" from 1 second to every 5 seconds.
16:18<kvandivo>it would have been about 5 times that, otherwise..
16:18<kvandivo>in my experience, myth handles dbms restarts very gracefully
16:21<warlord>Ok, I've got a query log...
16:22<warlord>but no updates are being done.
16:22<kvandivo>took 16 days to get that 270 megs...
16:22<warlord>That's fine..
16:23<warlord>I turned off logging while I'm trying to read this..
16:23<warlord>Want to see my file? Perhaps you might have some insights? (it's 643K)
16:24<kvandivo>oh.. correction.. the first part of that log file was back when the SELECT was running every second..
16:24<kvandivo>so it isn't that bad..
16:24<warlord>kvandivo: yes, I understand...
16:24<kvandivo>umm.. sure.. i'll glance at it.. send it my way
16:24<warlord>for some reason it's not trying to update the DB entry..
16:25<warlord>kvandivo: dcc ok?
16:25<kvandivo>dcc?
16:25<warlord>it's an IRC thing..
16:26<warlord>You type: /dcc get warlord
16:28<kvandivo>what time did you tell it to 'record _this_ one' ?
16:30<warlord>What do you mean?
16:30<kvandivo>well.. the file is pretty big. what time in that file is when you told it to record a particular one (that wasn't getting registered?)
16:31<warlord>Well, the file itself is about 10 seconds worth of data.
16:32<warlord>i started on the Conflicts page, already on "Angel"
16:32<kvandivo>those selects in there are interesting.. something in the code seems to select pretty well every column from 'record' one at a time, for each recordid
16:32<warlord>I clicked "return", then made sure I was on 'yes', then clicked return..
16:33<warlord>Then I stopped the log.
16:33<kvandivo>doing 16 selects when a select * would almost definitely suffice
16:33<kvandivo>but, that's someone else's code. i'll let it be
16:34<warlord>heh.
16:34<warlord>Let me see if I can reduce the log.
16:34<kvandivo>i'm making my way through it now...
16:35<kvandivo>it also looks like the MinRecordDiskThreshold is being called quite a few times in rapid succession there..
16:35<warlord>Yea..
16:36<warlord>Hmm, I think I just crashed it -- (mysql wasn't running)
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16:39<kvandivo>what's this do? INSERT INTO conflictresolutionoverride (chanid,starttime, endtime) VALUES (1010, 20031001210000, 20031001220000)
16:39<kvandivo>(according to the code.. i'm not looking at the code right now..)
16:39<warlord>Well, that SOUNDS like my program that I want to "force record"
16:40<warlord>1010 is the chanid of Angel, and the other two are the start/stop times.
16:41<warlord>Hmm...
16:41<warlord>mysql> select * from conflictresolutionoverride;
16:41<warlord>+--------+----------------+----------------+
16:41<warlord>| chanid | starttime | endtime |
16:41<warlord>+--------+----------------+----------------+
16:41<warlord>| 1010 | 20031001210000 | 20031001220000 |
16:41<warlord>| 1010 | 20031001210000 | 20031001220000 |
16:41<warlord>| 1027 | 20031001215500 | 20031002000000 |
16:41<warlord>| 1027 | 20031001215500 | 20031002000000 |
16:41<warlord>| 1010 | 20031001210000 | 20031001220000 |
16:41<warlord>| 1010 | 20031001210000 | 20031001220000 |
16:41<warlord>+--------+----------------+----------------+
16:41<warlord>6 rows in set (0.00 sec)
16:41<kvandivo>i see duplicates, yes i do. i see duplicates, how bout you?
16:42<warlord>Right. Probably from when I've been playing over the last 35 minutes
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16:44<warlord>I can try emptying that table but I doubt it will help..
16:44<warlord>i dont know why these programs are being considered disabled...
16:44<kvandivo>my table is empty right now
16:45<warlord>what's the command to remove rows?
16:45<warlord>(er, sql command)
16:45<kvandivo>delete from X where Y=Z;
16:46<kvandivo>or, just delete from X; since you are wanting to get rid of everything.
16:46<kvandivo>(dangerous command, in general)
16:46<warlord>Right. I was trying 'delete * from'..
16:46<warlord>ok, deleted..
16:48<warlord>And I think I see what's going wrong.. I _DONT_ have an encoder available...
16:51<warlord>Another wish-list -- being able to change the start-time of a single program (because I know it's going to start later than what the tv guide says)
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18:18<henry>I just came across a WinTV PVR card. This is really a bt878 right (conexant 25878) and is supported with the standard bttv driver?
18:18<tmk>i think so
18:19<henry>I must have bought it a few years ago, I'm on the closing end of a move and am unpacking boxes. Seems just like christmas.
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18:22<henry>Found another card too. I know I looked for this some time ago, but I looked again today, and didn't find much. Its a MiroVideo dc20. Looks pretty much like the same chips as what is described as the dc10old. Anyone ever heard of it?
18:25<henry>Suppose I'll plug it into something and see what the zoran driver thinks of it.
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18:26<tmk>it's a zoran thing, yeah..mjpeg
18:26<josephk>arggh
18:26<josephk>no one has 350 in stock
18:26<josephk>word must have gotten out;D
18:27<tmk>heh
18:27<thor_>and Hauppauge have tmk (and Chutt) to thank
18:27<tmk>does hauppauge'sstore not have them?
18:27<henry>cdw said (almost 2 weeks ago) that mine should ship today (the 30th).
18:28<josephk>maybe I can drive out to them and get one...lol
18:29<warlord>I think I'll wait on a -350.
18:30<josephk>I'm debating...I want to try to get dxr3 working...but pvr 350 would probably be better...then again if I can't output for mythvideo...
18:31<tmk>what does mythvideo use to playback
18:31<josephk>whatever you want I guess
18:31<josephk>by default mplayer
18:31<tmk>it should be pretty easy to get mplayer to send the dvd out the pvr
18:31<tmk>and i'll have yuv support eventually i think
18:32<thor_>one way or another, myth will get a native video player
18:32<josephk>well dvd is key...but what happens with divx?...display but no acceleration right
18:32<tmk>right
18:33<tmk>IF it outputs as yuv
18:33<thor_>dvd is easy ... mytdvd can already stream out the mpeg .... it just doesn't anything to hand it to
18:33<thor_>learn to type
18:33<josephk>?
18:33<thor_>me
18:33<josephk>ah ok
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18:33<tmk>does mythdvd play back using the normal nuppelplayer?
18:34<josephk>no
18:34<josephk>same as mythvideo, except separately configured
18:34<tmk>isee
18:34<tmk>i'll catch you guys later
18:34<josephk>k...later
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19:12<tros>so is the epia-m mpeg decoder good to go??
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19:15<tmk>tros: i thinkso
19:16<tros>awesome - is .12 coming out anytime soon?
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19:28<warlord>Hmm... my tv guide is wrong.. Zap2it reports the correct data, but what's in the database is wrong. Is there some what to get mythfilldatabase to force-update (without removing all the existing programs)?
19:30<sfr>warlord: try --update together with --no-delete . see mythfilldatabase --help for a short description. this should only update conflicting program data.
19:31<warlord>Well, in this case I do want it to overwrite the existing (wrong) program information...
19:32<warlord>wont --no-delete cause me to have two programs in the timeslot?
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19:33<sfr>two programms on the same timeslot and channel is impossible. the old entry in the db will be deleted in this case.
19:33<warlord>Ok.. Just wanted to make sure..
19:34<sfr>--no-delete will also prevent expired program data from being deleted. At least the command line help says so.
19:34<warlord>except: Data is already present for Tue Sep 30 2003, skipping
19:35<warlord>Oh well..
19:36<sfr>warlord: Ah, i think you need to run your tv_grab_ script manually and feed the resulting xmltv file via --file to mythfilldatabase. that's what i do.
19:36<warlord>Hmm.. Ok..
19:36<sfr>mythtv just tries to be efficient :)
19:37<warlord>right....
19:37<warlord>Hmm, do we need to update xmltv to .19?
19:38<sfr>not if your grabber script works.
19:40<warlord>so I guess mythfilldatabase --update --no-delete --file XX YY /tmp/tv.out
19:40<warlord>I'm not sure what to put for XX and YY
19:40<sfr>how many tuner cards do you have?
19:40<warlord>YY is clearly 0
19:40<warlord>I've got three tuner cards, but only two data sources.
19:42<warlord>Ahh, sourceid == 1..
19:42<Chutt>people using tv_grab_na need to upgrade to .19, the older versions are going to stop working in a day or so
19:42<tmk>eek
19:42<warlord>Ok..
19:42<warlord>Good to know.
19:42<Chutt>bug in the grabber was hammering the zap2it servers, and, well, they were nice about it
19:42<thor_>cool
19:43<warlord>Ok.
19:43<Chutt>gave the xmltv people time to get an update out and stuff, and only disabling the broken versions
19:43<tmk>wow that was really nice
19:43<thor_>sweet .... they must still be thinking about selling <xml> feeds
19:43<warlord>FYI, it would be nice if mythfilldatabase had a --force option (to ignore the fact that some days actually have data)
19:43<warlord>anyways, off to dinner.
19:44<Chutt>warlord, 'delete from program'
19:44<Chutt>:p
19:44<warlord>Chutt: that wont also destroy my recording settings?
19:44<Chutt>no, nothing irreplacable is in program
19:44<warlord>AHH.. Ok.
19:44<sfr>warlord: mythfilldatabase doesn't care about existing data, only myth afaik
19:44<sfr>but then also
19:44<sfr>ts.
19:45<sfr>also 'delete from programrating'
19:45<Chutt>oh, yeah, that too
19:45<warlord>sure. well, for some reason it thinks "CSI Miami" is tonight at 10, but it's really Judging Amy.
19:45<Chutt>and whatever table holds the actor information
19:45<Chutt>not that that's filled for anyone
19:46<warlord>isn't programrating stuff that my wife could have changed?
19:46<Chutt>nope
19:46<warlord>oh, so the user settings are elsewhere?
19:46<Chutt>yup
19:46<warlord>ok..
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19:47<hEximal>anyone use the 'ivtv' driver?
19:48<warlord>Cool, the manual update worked.
19:48<sfr>hEximal: tmk might.
19:48<tmk>i do
19:49<tmk>for ivtv questions, go to #ivtv-dev
19:49<hEximal>yep
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21:06<Helius_>ok, just soldered my own homebrew IR blaster for use with my Hughes DirectTV sat box
21:06<Helius_>neither the myth docs nor the lirc website have info on confguring lircd to control thes
21:07<Helius_>anyone here gotten this setup to work?
21:09<jkolb>Your receiver doesn't have a serial port?
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21:25<Helius_>jkolb: nope... its the cheap one
21:26<jkolb>Ah. Sucky.
21:26<Timon_>Helius_: the lirc site has it, its just buried.
21:27<Helius_>Timon_: what should I be looking for?
21:27<Timon_>Good question :-)
21:28<Timon_>Don't remember, its been awhile since I went down that path
21:30<Helius_>ok, found the config file for a hughes remote
21:30<Helius_>that should work right?
21:30<Timon_>Yeah, you need to have that.
21:30<Helius_>copy that into /etc/lircd.conf?
21:30<Timon_>Don't remember honestly
21:30<Helius_>can I send channel commands from the shell using lircd to test it?
21:31<Timon_>yeah, check in the contrib dir of myth, there are some perl scripts
21:33<Helius_>* ERROR: runlevel SEND_ONCE does not exist; exiting...
21:33<Helius_>when running ./change-channel-lirc.sh
21:38<Helius_>oh, found a post that describes how to use the perl script. thanks!
21:52<thor_>Chutt, you about?
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22:52<Timon>Is anyone else getting 'no route to host' when trying to connect to mythtv.org?
22:53<thor_>getting connection refused ... that happened a bit the other day as well
22:53<Timon>Ok, thanks
22:54<Timon>my frontend hardware should be here tomorrow or thursday!
22:54<Chutt>the website?
22:54<thor_>yup
22:54<Chutt>or cvs?
22:54<Chutt>works here
22:54<Timon>Chutt: web, cvs
22:54<Timon>ping
22:55<thor_>working now
22:55<thor_>wasn't a second ago
22:55<Chutt>huh
22:55<Chutt>box rebooted, apparently
22:55<Chutt>i wonder how i restart cvs
22:55<Timon>was down for atleast 5 mins
22:55<Chutt>since it's the uml that needs restarting
22:56<Timon>back up now
22:56<Timon>--- mythtv.org ping statistics ---
22:56<Timon>3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 36343ms
22:57<Timon>Thats some latency!
22:57<Chutt>i get about 100ms.
22:57<thor_>45.6
22:57<thor_>hah!
22:57<Timon>now its back down, 138ms
22:58<Timon>hmm, maybe not: 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time *18169ms*
22:58<thor_>round-trip min/avg/max = 43.4/43.4/43.5 ms
22:59<thor_>woo hoo
22:59<thor_>I win
22:59<Timon>heh
22:59<Timon>traceroute looks fine, dunno why I was gettin 18sec latency
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23:00<cesman>hello everyone
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23:00<thor_>hah, bet he has crappy ping times
23:00<Timon>haha
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23:00<thor_>perhaps not
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23:08<nulltank>is there any trick to getting mame to work with the tv-out? my video goes to crap after i launch most games; i'm running at 640x480 (16bpp)
23:11<cesman>nulltank: you can try advanced mame http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/
23:12<tmk>Chutt: are you 'in the house' ?
23:12<tmk>:P
23:12<nulltank>also, i've noticed that playing mp3s really slows down (when switching songs) when your play list is say 6000 songs in length
23:12<nulltank>cesman: ok, i'll give it a try
23:12<Chutt>tmk, yeah
23:12<Chutt>what's up?
23:12<thor_>nulltank, toggle your list as shuffled setting
23:13<Timon>nulltank: The last ones easy, don't put 6000 songs in your playlist :-)
23:13<Timon>Or thor's suggestion
23:13<thor_>or Timon's
23:13<Timon>heh
23:14<tmk>Chutt: what is "nvr_enc"
23:14<Timon>Finally! mythgame successfully loaded my mame games.
23:14<Chutt>where's that from?
23:14<nulltank>Timon: yeah, but that's the only player that i've every had a problem with a list that big; xmms and winamp handle it fine; i'll try the shuffle setting
23:14<tmk>ivtvdecoder:dofastforward
23:14<Chutt>tmk, ah, ok
23:14<tmk> else if (livetv || (watchingrecording && nvr_enc &&
23:15<Chutt>that's the connection to the backend, if it's watching a recording or in live tv
23:15<Timon>nulltank: If it bothers, you could always fix it.
23:15<Chutt>an in progress recording, that is
23:15<Chutt>nulltank, it's the shuffle setting
23:15<nulltank>Timon: he good point, maybe i'll take a look
23:15<tmk>so it's basically saying 'am i watching an inprogress recording'
23:15<Chutt>tmk, yup
23:15<tmk>thx
23:15<Chutt>'if i'm watching an in progress recording, get the data i want from the backend'
23:16<tmk>k
23:16<tmk>the skipahead bug is definately in this code btw
23:16<Chutt>sure
23:16<Chutt>can't wait until you find it =)
23:16<tmk>i know
23:17<tmk>i still think i'm the only one using it
23:17<tmk>but that's fine with me
23:17<Chutt>probably
23:17<Chutt>i'll be using it soon, though =)
23:18* tmk puts all his work on hold and waits for chutt to fix it
23:18<tmk>err did i say that out loud
23:19<tmk>what units is keyPos in
23:19<tmk>bytes?
23:19<tmk>it's read from the positionmap[]
23:19<Chutt>yeah
23:19<Chutt>i believe
23:20<tmk>it looks like you set it twice
23:20<tmk>like you find it once (possibly)
23:20<tmk>then you go and set it again
23:20<tmk>err n/m
23:26<Timon>Chutt: I have an update to mythgame, a one liner, want it here or on the mailing list?
23:28<Chutt>mailing list please
23:28<Timon>k
23:29<warlord>hmm, I just noticed that when I set a program to record and start watching it while it's recording, once it stops recording I can't fast-forward anymore.
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23:29<Timon>Hmm, this is weird, when I put ".stripWhiteSpace()" at the end of line 77 in gametree.cpp, the \n is stripped correctly, but then I can't navigate the tree. Any ideas?
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23:33<thor_>ahoy
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23:33<thor_>darn
23:33<Chutt>cvs is back up now
23:33<Timon>woot
23:34<tmk>sup thor
23:34<tmk>pleas don't pelt me with thunder and lightning
23:34<thor_>heh
23:34<thor_>I'm making plugins
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23:35<Timon>plugins for what thor?
23:35<thor_>for the mfd
23:35<Timon>mfd?
23:35<thor_>myth frontend daemon
23:35<thor_>hehe
23:35<Timon>Umm, a frontend daemon?
23:35<thor_>like the mtd, 'cept much more capable
23:36<Timon>hmm, ok
23:36<Timon>I presume it runs on the frontend?
23:36<thor_>yup
23:36<thor_>most obvious benefit is that you can have music play until video wants to take over
23:37<thor_>but it does lots of nifty things (most of them in my head as of yet)
23:37<Timon>Hmm, I can't think of a need. Can you give me a real world situation?
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23:37<Timon>hahah
23:37<thor_>rip dvd from any other frontend
23:37<Timon>k
23:37<thor_>control any frontend from any other frontend
23:37<warlord>It would be nice to be able to add audio in the background during mythweather.. ;)
23:38<thor_>dynamically discover frontends and get access to their metadata
23:38<Timon>heh, change the channel on my wife, thats a benefit :-)
23:39<thor_>zeroconfiguration ... plug in a box with music, you can play it anywhere .... unplug it, no problem
23:39<thor_>same for video
23:39<thor_>and removable media
23:39<thor_>heehee
23:39<Timon>cool
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23:40<thor_>also, plug in an iPod, play it's music from myth
23:40<thor_>or a Mac
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23:41<Timon>pretty neat!
23:41<thor_>getting there ....
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