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---Logopened Thu Oct 09 00:00:52 2003
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00:16<FryGuy->dang it.. missed smallville _again_ :(
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00:17<FryGuy->it started recording friends i guess and got stuck
00:17<FryGuy->had to kill the backend and restart it to delete it
00:17<mrra>Ok, I got everything working for the most part, I'm watching tv, but the audio is like 2 seconds behind, any ideas?
00:18<FryGuy->you need to make sure that your CAPTUR is working instead of just the sound card doing the work
00:18<mrra>everything works great with xawtv on the same system
00:18<Chutt>mrra, you didn't read the setting up the mixer section of the docs.
00:18* mrra goes off to read docs
00:19<mrra>sure enough, docs talk about this....
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00:33<FryGuy->isn't that what I said though? :p
00:42* tmk tries the latest cvs
00:42<tmk>is it dangerous in any way to run myth while mythfilldatabase is going?
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00:52<Chutt>tmk, nope
00:53<Chutt>aside from the very first time, until it gets the channel table populated
00:54<tmk>ok
00:54<tmk>hmm some channels have gone missing
00:56<tmk>that's strange
00:56<tmk>fox sports world disappeard
00:57<Captain_Murdoch>tmk, was i2cdump the command you said to use to find out the tuner's address?
00:58<tmk>no
00:58<tmk>option to i2c-algo-bit
00:59<tmk>is bit_scan
00:59<tmk>i believe
00:59<Captain_Murdoch>ok, thanks.
00:59<tmk>that will print out all the addresses (in hex) that are found on the i2c bus
00:59<tmk>then just edit ivtv.h and update them
00:59<tmk>don't forget to make clean
01:05<Captain_Murdoch>thanks. it's at 60 it appears.
01:06<Captain_Murdoch>locked my test machine.
01:07<tmk>60 is usally the digitizer i think
01:07<tmk>load the driver with debug=127
01:07<tmk>and msg me the last few lines of the log
01:08<mrra>ok, after much playing with alsamixer I got things mostly working
01:08<mrra>now audio is changing volume on it's own though... quite odd
01:09<mrra>things will get quiet for a bit, then come up to a normal volume, then go quiet again
01:09<Captain_Murdoch>log only showed 21, 50, and 60. having to reboot now. I tried changing the pci id.
01:11<tmk>does it have an ir receiver?
01:11<Captain_Murdoch>no
01:12<mrra>this is on a k7 athlon... 1200Mhz... I would assume I have enough horsepower to handle this
01:13<Captain_Murdoch>mrra, easily
01:14<mrra>hmmm
01:16<Captain_Murdoch>how do I message in xchat?
01:17<Captain_Murdoch>ahh, /help
01:19<mrra>ok, mixer settings are delayed...
01:31<mrra>alright, another question. I've got a cable box in order to get channels such as HBO. changing channels on the tv tuner card itself won't work, I need a way to change channels on the cable box
01:31<mrra>I was thinking some sort of remote perhaps that mythtv could control?
01:31<tmk>sure
01:31<mrra>any recommendations?
01:36<tmk>lirc has a prog to do it
01:45<tmk>chutt: how much xml does mythtv need from xmltv
01:45<tmk>ie it gives audio options etc
01:45<tmk>rating
01:46<tmk>is that all necessary
01:47<Chutt>naw
01:47<Chutt>i don't remember what all it actually parses
01:47<Chutt>that's in programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp
01:48<tmk>cause i may need to write my own grabber/generator
01:52<mrra>but what kind of remote do I buy?
01:53* mrra does some googling
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01:55<Chutt>tmk, why your own?
01:58<o_c>tmk: my grabber only gets desc, name and times..
01:59<o_c>what's the difference from the pvr2/350 and the on that says just "hauppauge pvr"?
01:59<o_c>can get one of those at a pretty good price
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02:12<yebyen>where's mdz?
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05:06<o_cee> // Will use pre-roll settings only if no other
05:06<o_cee> // program is currently being recorded
05:06<o_cee>wouldn't it make sense to do the preroll when watching live tv?
05:07<o_cee>(and there's a scheduled show to be recorded on another channel..)
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09:39<kvandivo>chutt: yes, you did commit it "last" night
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11:08<mikegrb>good morning Captain_Murdoch_
11:09<Captain_Murdoch_>hey
11:10<mikegrb>your probably one of my wifes favorite myth developers, behind chutt <g>
11:10<mikegrb>she complains abt how many commercials there are now when she watches live tv
11:11<mechtn>captain, your a dev for myth?
11:11<Captain_Murdoch_>that's what got my wife hooked on myth as well, part of the reason I wrote that code.
11:11<Captain_Murdoch_>mechtn, I wrote the commercial skip/detection code.
11:11<kvandivo>when the program doesn't rate, innovate.
11:11<mikegrb>heh
11:11<mechtn>ah.. is there a mini distro of linux with myth included
11:11<mechtn>i
11:12<Captain_Murdoch_>well, she didn't like the idea of a computer in the living room, then I showed her what I could make it do. :)
11:12<mechtn>i'm wanting it to put on my xbox
11:12<mikegrb>xvideo is the main problem right now with using mythtv on frame buffer, right? I know qt supports it but would changes have to be made to qt stuff to get it to work?
11:13<Captain_Murdoch_>kvandivo: I had the video working on the first m179 last night. just had to change the tuner's i2c address in ivtv.h.
11:16<kvandivo>no audio yet?
11:17<kvandivo>i haven't yet delved into the ivtv stuff. i hope i'm going to be able to get a 250 and 197 to cooperate
11:17<Captain_Murdoch_>no, haven't delved into that yuan patch much. I tried just changing the pci ID in ivtv.h but that locked the computer hard so it's not exactly like the yuan card(s)
11:18<kvandivo>i'm still working on house stuff so i'm not going to be able to look into that until the weekend, probably
11:18<Captain_Murdoch_>kvandivo: should be doable. I had all 3 m179 cards in the system at one time last night and was getting video from each, just didn't have the tuner working so I took 2 out to test and need to put the others back in tonight.
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11:28<mechtn>. is there a mini distro of linux with myth included?
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11:34<Captain_Murdoch_>mechtn, yes, search the mailing list. I think it's knopmyth or something like that.
11:36<bline>12094 unread message in my myth-users folder, wonder if i should unsubscribe
11:36<mechtn>hrm, searching the archives was a bitch
11:37<mechtn>i didnt find much useful info for that mini distro the other night
11:37<mechtn>i'll try again tho
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11:40<Chutt>it's on the main web page.
11:40<Chutt>really hard to find.
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11:41<mechtn>really?
11:42<Chutt>no, i'm lying to you.
11:44<mechtn>jejej
11:44<mechtn>hehe even
11:44<mechtn>sorry i'
11:44<mechtn>sorry i'm working and chatting
11:44<mechtn>i got debian installed on my xbox
11:45<mechtn>but i'm wanting to just use myth so i was hoping to find a smaller distro to run
11:45<mechtn>Chutt, you a dev also?
11:45<Chutt>it's on the fucking webpage
11:45<Chutt>Dennis Cartier has made a little mini-distribution for running a MythFrontend (and shortly all the other plugin modules) on an Xbox
11:45<Chutt>Larry Matter has put together a rather tiny Myth-based distribution for diskless EPIA-M machines, called MiniMyth.
11:46<mechtn>cool man cool.. i cant get to the page at the moment.. were in the process of upgrading one of the servers here to a beta of isa 2003
11:47<Chutt>you're on irc, you can use a browser.
11:53<mechtn>i know that, but my boss is being an ass atm about browsing from this computer becuase he cant monitor it
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11:59<kvandivo>wow.. 2.4ghz with hyper threading, 256meg, MS office.. for $139! techbargains.com
12:01<mikegrb>Chutt: looks like Dennis is going to get some help re his mini xbox mythtv distribution
12:02<mikegrb>a recent project has been to put together an easy to use legal version of xbox media player that could be run from livecd and it looks like mythtv won
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12:05<Chutt>heh
12:05<Chutt>won?
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12:12<mechtn>mikegrb, where is that at
12:12<mikegrb>Chutt: yes mythtv won :p
12:12<mechtn>Chutt, sorry if it seemed like i was an ass or something for a second.. dealing with clients on the phone and trying to chat sometimes proves difficult
12:12<mikegrb>freevo and mplayer with a custom frontend were the other main competition
12:13<mikegrb>mechtn: in #xbox-linux on oftc.net
12:16<mikegrb>so the 'official' xbox-linux live media distribution will be based on mythtv and friends
12:16<mikegrb>I'll make sure you get any useful pataches via the -dev list :)
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12:17<mikegrb>Drikus: has the site been working out fine for you?
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12:19<mchou>Captain_Murdoch: are you around?
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12:29<Chutt>heh
12:30<mikegrb>Chutt: the xbox ir remote supports ioctls to remap keys dynamically, so this little dist is the push I need to get around to working on a patch to support mapping the remote in the xbox setup section :)
12:31<Chutt>heh
12:31<mikegrb>the xbox is going to have remappable remote before other stuff <g>
12:32<mikegrb>though comming the other way, the remote driver is nice though, it sends it's keys as if it was a usb keyboard so just normal key input as far as an app knows
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12:39<Drikus>mikegrb: yeah working well for me. :-)
12:40<Captain_Murdoch_>min price on that dell system is about 1200 now, they changed the page as I was checking/unchecking options.
12:41<mikegrb>Drikus: did I tell you you can go to /irc instad of cgi-bin
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12:43<Drikus>mikegrb: nope but what do you mean with /irc. ? How do i do that. ?
12:44<mikegrb>http://greb.ods.org/irc/
12:44<mikegrb>shorter url :/
12:44<mikegrb>er ;)
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12:44<Drikus>mikegrb: oh ok. thanks.
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12:49<kvandivo>interesting, Captain_Murdoch_ i'm guessing my order won't go through, then.. i haven't yet gotten confirmation email
12:50<kvandivo>techbargains even took it off their page. that doesn't happen very often
12:57<linagee_>why when i press E or M is my mythtv not going into edit mode? hrm... :(
13:20<Captain_Murdoch_>linagee_: the editting flag may be set for some reason. if you're using the blue theme, are there any small graphics in the lower left hand corner of the playbackbox screen when you highlight the show you're talking about.
13:25<linagee_>Captain_Murdoch_: tried switching themes. still doesn't work. ;(
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13:54<Captain_Murdoch_>there are instructions on the mailing list about checking/fixing the "editing" flag in the database. search for that and see if they help.
13:56<Chutt>or just use cvs, as it'll pop up a dialog and let you bypass the already editing flag
13:57<Captain_Murdoch_>yeah, forgot about that recent addition.
13:57<Captain_Murdoch_>I'm about 1-2 weeks behind current cvs on my main myth boxes.
13:57<Captain_Murdoch_>and I rarely edit anyway.
13:58<Chutt>heh
14:00<Captain_Murdoch_>need to go through and upgrade them anyway to get off qt 3.0.x. then it's ok to make myth non-compatible with 3.0. :)
14:00<Chutt>yeah
14:00<Chutt>i'm thinking of dropping support formally after 0.12
14:01<Captain_Murdoch_>gotta run...
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14:12<thor_> i'm thinking of dropping support formally after 0.12, yah!
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15:09<thor_>ahhhhhhhhhhhh
15:10<thor_>(large lightbulb turns on)
15:11* thor_ finally figures out how to link C and C++ in a plugin
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15:15<warthawg>i have installed alsa-driver, alsa-libs, and alsa-utils on my rh9 system, but mythtv still tells me it can't find the oss
15:15<warthawg>it says: strange error flushing buffer ...
15:15<warthawg>Opening OSS audio device ''.
15:15<warthawg>Error opening audio device ():
15:15<warthawg>No such file or directory
15:15<warthawg>any advice?
15:17<thor_>alsa-oss emulation?
15:19<warthawg>thor_ how would i do that?
15:19<warthawg>is that in the docs?
15:19<thor_>you doing alsa from source of redhat packages ?
15:19<thor_>s/of/or
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15:22<warthawg>thor_ from packages for rh9 from freshrpms.net
15:22<Chutt>run mythfrontend, not mythtv
15:23<warthawg>aha
15:23<warthawg>thanks chutt
15:23<Chutt>i've made it impossible to run mythtv before mythfrontend's been run once in CVS, but..
15:23<Chutt>first run of it sets up the default settings and stuff
15:24<warthawg>chutt thank you, thank you, thank you.
15:25<warthawg>it finally runs :)
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15:29<mikegrb>It's nice to leave movies recorded from tv as nuv and set mythvideo's nuv handler to mythtv :)
15:30<Chutt>i use the bin for testing all the time
15:30<Chutt>that's why i haven't just removed it completely
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15:32<mikegrb>I like to move the movies out of the watch prerecorded stuff to make finding other stuff quicker, don't need to save the space, isn't worth the time
15:32<thor_>someday ... video will just be video
15:33<mikegrb>heh
15:34<thor_>with metadata that describes how you categorize it and play it .... someday
15:34<mikegrb>heh
15:34<mikegrb>that's the biggie
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16:25<kvandivo>well, i've gotten order confirmation on two of the dell systems. we'll now see if i get another email later saying that they are cancelled
16:26<kvandivo>i had actually only planned to get one, but the website crashed when i was confirming the first, and so i ended up trying again. come to find out, it must not have crashed until after it sent my order
16:31<mikegrb>:)
16:31<Chutt>hrm
16:31<Chutt>suppose i should flip the pvr-350 and -250
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16:50<mikegrb>wow, it didn't take you three days to come back to life :)
16:51<mikegrb>er
16:51<mikegrb>just 14 minutes
16:53<mikegrb>umm
17:05<thor_>hmmm ....zauraus remote ....
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18:07<hEximal>good evening...
18:08<Degrees>evening
18:09<hEximal>hey degrees
18:09<hEximal>does anyone transcode their movies?
18:09<Degrees>Sup?
18:09<hEximal>err, recordings
18:09<Degrees>nope
18:09<overridex>hEximal: i convert mine to divx/ogg ogm files
18:10<Degrees>I can't get MythTV to work
18:10<hEximal>overridex: yes! that's what I need to do
18:10<overridex>to keep on cds... :)
18:10<hEximal>overridex: i have it set to mpeg4 transcode rigth now
18:10<overridex>hEximal: i ended up making a script to use mythtranscode directly to do it
18:10<warthawg>i finally got it working here, but still have lip-synch issues
18:10<hEximal>oh
18:10<hEximal>so you're doing it externally?
18:10<overridex>yeah
18:10<hEximal>hmm
18:11<overridex>i do the commercial editing in mythtv
18:11<hEximal>yeah, you got to edit out those pesky commercials
18:11<hEximal>:o
18:11<overridex>then i run the script with the channel/date/episode name and it encodes it
18:11<hEximal>heh
18:11<overridex>i couldn't get the nuvexport script to work so
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18:11<hEximal>i have auto transcode enabled
18:12<hEximal>and it's working well
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18:12<warthawg>do you put them on cd?
18:12<hEximal>but, i'd like to try to optimize the quality
18:12<warthawg>i am wondering if i can get a one hour program on a cd
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18:12<overridex>i put 3 half-hour programs on a cd
18:13<warthawg>overridex: let me double check the math, but I think you've answered my question
18:13<hEximal>warthawg: you got martial arts lip synching problems?
18:13<warthawg>ok, lessee three...carry one...false subtraction...shift left logical
18:13<warthawg>hEximal: i sure do, kung foo city
18:14<overridex>i use the default ogg quality with a video bitrate of 1350...
18:14<hEximal>hmm
18:14<warthawg>aha: i bet that is my problem
18:15<overridex>i use mplayer's autocropping, and leave it at the default 480x480 res.... then use mencoder's aspect setting so that some players will set the aspect correctly when you play it back like they do dvds and stuff
18:15<hEximal>what format are you recording in?
18:15<hEximal>overridex
18:15<overridex>rtjpeg
18:16<hEximal>i'm going from mpeg2 w/ pvr250
18:16<overridex>hehe well you certainly don't need my script then
18:16<hEximal>well
18:16<overridex>mencoder can read that straight off
18:17<hEximal>let me go check
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18:17<overridex>you might need to rename it to .mpg but that's about it...
18:18<hEximal>should i transcode in full res?
18:18<hEximal>720x480
18:18<overridex>hehe you'll need a mighty high bitrate to
18:18<hEximal>I just need to find someone's settings
18:19<hEximal>someone's 'recommended' settings
18:19<hEximal>it lists hardware mjpeg
18:19<hEximal>but i'm guessing that is for 350
18:21<overridex>(2050*1024)/((720*480)*29.97) = 0.20267180761 so if my math's right you need a bitrate of like 2050 at that res to have a decent bits per pixel
18:22<hEximal>what codec should I use?
18:22<hEximal>RTjpeg or mpeg4
18:22<overridex>mpeg4 if you want to really compress them and put them on cds....
18:22<hEximal>ahh ok
18:23<overridex>i think to get decent quality though you'll want to use mencoder externally though
18:23<hEximal>w/ divx or something?
18:24<overridex>mencoder -vf crop=466:478:8:0,hqdn3d,pp=lb -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1350:vhq:v4mv:precmp=2:cmp=2:subcmp=2:trell:aspect=4/3:vpass=1 -o ~/outfilename.avi infilename.mpg
18:24<hEximal>ahh
18:24<overridex>err, get taht crop out of there :)
18:24<hEximal>nifty
18:24<overridex>and change the bitrate.... and that doesn't do audio
18:24<hEximal>man
18:24<hEximal>i'm going to have to search
18:25<overridex>i use oggenc to do the audio separate then i use ogmmerge to put them together into a ogm....
18:25<hEximal>that sounds fun
18:25<hEximal>i'd probably have kung fu voice track
18:25<hEximal>if I did that
18:25<overridex>http://zebra.fh-weingarten.de/~maxi/html/mplayer-users/2003-09/msg00376.html <-- you might want to look at that thread...
18:25<hEximal>thanks, looking.
18:26<overridex>it's a lot easier to use mencoder with mpeg2 files from a pvr250 though than it is to use it with rtjpeg nuv files like i am hehe
18:27<hEximal>that's promising
18:28<hEximal>ever play with mythweb?
18:28<overridex>nope...
18:28<hEximal>seems really nice
18:29<overridex>i got my ir blaster today though, gonna mess with that in the next few days... hopefully get my digital channels working :)
18:31<hEximal>what is ir blaster?
18:31<hEximal>not infra red
18:32<overridex>yeah it's an infra red transmiter that connects to your serial port so that mythtv can change the channel on an external digital cable box...
18:32<hEximal>ahh
18:32<hEximal>so you can use one remote for everything
18:33<overridex>hehe well i don't use a remote for mine (yet) i use mythtv in a window on my workstation and control it with the keyboard
18:33<hEximal>yep
18:33<hEximal>me too
18:33<overridex>but at least then i can have mythtv scheduled to record stuff on digital channels and it can change the channel and stuff on it's own
18:34<hEximal>mythweb is great for scheduling recordings
18:34<hEximal>or at least it looks like it is
18:34<overridex>only problem is i'm on kernel 2.6.0-test6 and it looks like lirc is kinda weird to get working on it to get the ir blaster working....
18:34<overridex>hehe
18:34<hEximal>oh my
18:38<hEximal>time to experiment
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18:44<hEximal>how often do you run mythfilldatabase?
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19:09<overridex>hEximal: once a night
19:09<overridex>via cron
19:09<hEximal>ahh ok, i'm doing mine once a day too
19:09<hEximal>via cron
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19:47<cmorgan>the channel is hidden??
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19:51<cmorgan>I'm running debian but the 'mysql < mc.sql' doesn't appear to work, gives me 'ERROR 1044 at line 1: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mythconverg''
19:52<cmorgan>using 'mysql -u root < mc.sql' worked however...
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19:52<mechou>Captain_Murdoch: are you around?
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19:55<Sembiance>Ahhh finally got my 8-way amplifier/splitter in the mail.
19:55<Sembiance>Now all video captures on all 4 of my PVR250 cards look good
19:55<cmorgan>heh
19:57<cmorgan>i'm impressed by mythtv already
19:58<Sembiance>I actually wish it was a bit more simplistic
19:58<Sembiance>for those running PVR250's, Myth's features for card support and audio sync, etc. seem like overkill :)
19:59<cmorgan>heh
19:59<mechou>Sembiance, 8 way amp? is it powered? where did you get it?
19:59<cmorgan>Sembiance: what kind of stuff is overkill?
19:59<cmorgan>Sembiance: i have a 350 on its way...
19:59<josephk>350 is king
19:59<josephk>:)
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20:00<cmorgan>josephk: i don't have a way of getting tv out of my pc, so 350 seemed like the best choice....
20:01<josephk>well cmorgan...its the only way to get X and hardware mpeg decoding short of hacking something together with the dxr3...plus proper tv sync
20:01<josephk>tv sync is the biggest deal
20:01<cmorgan>yeah
20:01<josephk>proper interlaced output
20:01<josephk>good choice:)
20:01<cmorgan>i'm psyched about myth, i've always wanted a tivo but didn't want the extra payment for the services
20:02<cmorgan>i also want an excuse to get more pc hardware and move the current stuff to a mythtv box ;-)
20:03<cmorgan>i also wanted something to hack on ;-)
20:03<josephk>stay away from via
20:03<cmorgan>i'm glad to see that people here seem friendly ;-)
20:03<josephk>actually most of them are really mean
20:03<cmorgan>:-P you jest ;-)
20:03<josephk>they don't want anyone to find out about myth
20:04<cmorgan>?
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20:04<mechou>josephk: what are you talking about, "unfriendly?"
20:07<cmorgan>there a lot of developers in this channel?
20:09<Sembiance>cmorgan: I'm a developer.... but not for MythTV :)
20:10<cmorgan>Sembiance: heh. another open source project? or for work?
20:10<Sembiance>cmorgan: Work... I do stuff in my free time, but don't have any open source projects with my name on it at the moment
20:11<cmorgan>Sembiance: ahh. i also code pimp for a living
20:12<mechou>pimp. what's that (who's you 'ho?)
20:12<cmorgan>mechou: a 'code pimp'
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20:14<Sembiance>Can anyone tell whether or not the first picture on this page is fake or not? http://www.cosmicrealms.com/coolnessimages/index.php?startImage=55
20:14<mechou>Sembiance, looks like "Sim City"
20:15<Sembiance>heh
20:15<Sembiance>not sure if it's real or not. I can't imagine an actual place looking like that
20:15<mechou>Sembiance: shadows seem correct....
20:23<elocal>woohoo, I fixed my quality problems by just especifying the tuner type
20:23<elocal>;-) this rocks now, I`m going to watch some WWE or see if the Boston vs Yankees game is on
20:24<elocal>make your bets ;-)
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20:24<elocal>BOSTON IS GOING TO WIN
20:24<elocal>YEA
20:24<cmorgan>heh
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20:31<SarahEmm>i'm getting these messages on dmesg output, and when they happen (every 5sec or so) video pauses for 1-2 seeconds.. any ideas? messages are "bttv0: irq: SCERR risc_count=19728014" "bttv0: aiee: error loops" "bttv0: resetting chip"
20:31<SarahEmm>(heh, i'm really having no luck getting this thing going..)
20:32<mechou>SarahEmm, what capture card is it?
20:32<SarahEmm>ATI TV Wonder (not VE)
20:32<SarahEmm>works fine in xaw
20:33<SarahEmm>let me try loading the bttv module with debug msgs on..
20:34<mechou>SarahEmm, I've got no experience on that capture card. :( You sure you set the "right" tuner type in modules.conf?
20:35<mechou>maybe try another pci slot (driver is complaining about irq), and maybe try set pci latency to 64 if that doesn't work....
20:36<SarahEmm>yep, xaw works fine, channel numbers are correct and everything
20:36<SarahEmm>only one PCI slot
20:37<SarahEmm>bleh.
20:37<SarahEmm>okay, ignore everything i just said
20:37<SarahEmm><-- feels like an idiot
20:37<SarahEmm>it was an audio issue, as usual :)
20:38<SarahEmm>wow... watching live TV appears to be working! *tests audio*
20:38<mechou>SarahEmm, what exactly would cause this bttv driver error?
20:38<SarahEmm>i dunno, i haven't looked at the code yet.
20:39<SarahEmm>it seems harmless actually though, as once i corrected the audio device it still comes up, but video shows fine
20:39<SarahEmm>i'll look at the code when i'm bored sometime..
20:40<SarahEmm>wooo! audio working!
20:40<SarahEmm>switching to 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 from 2.4.20-vanilla fixed the slow-video issues
20:42<mechou>SarahEmm: darn, you use gentoo? Don't you have to "cmpile world?"
20:42<mechou>s/cmpile/compile
20:42<SarahEmm>well, you build the whole OS when you install it, yes
20:43<mechou>how long does "compile world" take?
20:45<SarahEmm>well, the initial bootstrapping to build a base system that'll boot up to a shell was about 9h, then X added a few more hours, Qt added a few more hours, misc. stuff added a few more hours
20:45<SarahEmm>i'm on a celeron 1.7ghz, 256mb ram
20:45<SarahEmm>i'm impressed with it so far tho.
20:45<mechou>Yeah, I'd have no patience for that....
20:46<mechou>9 hours to get to a shell, sheesh....
20:46<SarahEmm>well, i was working night shifts, and brought the box to work, just let it compile while i was doing other stuff
20:46<Captain_Murdoch>mechou: I'm around now for a short while.
20:47<mechou>Captain_Murdoch, the avermedia m179, those don't come w/ remotes, do they (even *new*)?
20:47<Captain_Murdoch>no, no place to hookup a remote on the card.
20:48<SarahEmm>nice.. it's using about 65% of the CPU for 480x480 MPEG4
20:48<cmorgan>how does the remote for the pvr-X50 cards work? is there an ir sensor you plug into the card? ir mounted on the card itself?
20:49<mechou>Captain_Murdoch: hmm, I'm confused. Are those cards bundled with MS Media Center? Don't those have remotes?
20:53<Captain_Murdoch>remote must have a usb or serial receiver then, cause nothing is on the card. only ports are antenna, composite in, svideo in, and audio in it appears.
20:54<Captain_Murdoch>cmorgan: ir sensor comes attached to a cable that plugs into the x50 card.
20:55<cmorgan>Captain_Murdoch: ahh, k
20:55* cmorgan was wondering what a good choice for an ir blaster like device would be. heard that the actisys 200L(i think) didn't work with all cable boxes...
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21:03<Captain_Murdoch>cool, just had 3 simultaneous captures going (just video though) from three m179 cards in one machine. :)
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21:04<mechou>Captain_Murdoch, this on your Athlon 700?
21:05<Captain_Murdoch>no, p2-400
21:05<mechou>Captain_Murdoch, dang...
21:05<Captain_Murdoch>test machine with 6 pci slots, no IDE, writing files across nfs.
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21:06<mechou>now if ivtv can do audio for avemedia m179 you'd be all set :)
21:06<Captain_Murdoch>an old Dell poweredge server from work that is a dinosaur by today's standards.
21:06<Captain_Murdoch>mechou, yeah. then I can sell my pvr-250 and recoup most of the cost for all 3 m179 cards. :)
21:06<mechou>hehe...
21:08<Captain_Murdoch>need someone with windows installed to snoop the m179 card using the instructions the guy posted on the ivtv list.
21:08<Captain_Murdoch>I switched my wife's computer to Linux almost a year ago so we're 100% windows free at home.
21:08<mechou>Captain_Murdoch, are you one of those people that check daily for newegg refurbs? Just wondering how you heard about the refurbs....
21:09<Captain_Murdoch>no, someone mentioned it in the ivtv-dev channel last week. they were $44 each, then when I decided to take the plunge and buy a couple they had dropped to $39 so I bought 3 instead.
21:10<mechou>yeah, I bet you got the last three too :)...
21:11<Captain_Murdoch>me or kvandivo. I think he picked up 2 and I know someone else did as well. they were gone a couple days later but at that price (less than half normal) they would go fast.
21:11<Captain_Murdoch>bbl, gotta go move some furniture.
21:11<mechou>later...
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22:07<SarahEmm>woo!
22:07<SarahEmm>album cover support is working in mythmusic now :)
22:08<SarahEmm>gotta love open source :)
22:09<cmorgan>heh
22:09* SarahEmm will clean up the code a bit and submit a patch..
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22:46<cmorgan>i think there is a bug in the 'setup' program and 'mythfilldatabase'. I run mythfilldatabase and it wants to find a .xmltv file but the file is actually THEVIDEOINPUTDEIVCE.xmltv... doh
22:50<bline>dont you think someone else would have noticed?
22:50<cmorgan>i would have thought so
22:50<bline>more likly you didnt set it up properly
22:51<cmorgan>i thought so
22:51<cmorgan>its odd that it wants a '.xmltv' file and i have a 'pvr-350.xmltv' file
22:51<cmorgan>exacltly the name of the text i entered for the video capture device
22:53<cmorgan>maybe its because i didn't go through input connections(i lack a capture card at this moment)
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23:27<kvandivo>Captain_Murdoch: I actually only got one m179. of course, with the 2 dell's that i bought today, i think i've spent enough money recently anyway..
23:32<tmk>how's that m179 working for you guys
23:33* SarahEmm is away: walkies bbs
23:35<Captain_Murdoch>tmk, I had all 3 capturing video at the same time earlier as a test. haven't had a chance to mess with audio stuff though. would be nice if that guy who said he had a m179 in a windows mce machine could follow those instructions that guy posted and find out what sets up the sound.
23:35<Captain_Murdoch>kvandivo: I thought it was you who said 2, must have been someone else.
23:37<tmk>Captain_Murdoch: you sure it's not the same as the yuan board?
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23:38<Captain_Murdoch>before I setup the tuner I dind't get any audio. when I tried setting the pci subsystem id to make it think my card was a yuan card it locked up my computer. it did that on 2 different comupters one with an athlon and one a p2-400
23:39<tmk>did you find out where it was locking?
23:39<Captain_Murdoch>so when I tried the plain yuan driver without the pci id patch it did video but no audio (cause it was using the fallback pvr-250 code. then when I changed pci id it locked the computer.
23:39<Captain_Murdoch>haven't had a chance to mess with it tonight.
23:39<Captain_Murdoch>except to test the 3 cards. :)
23:39<kvandivo>(fwiw, I've managed to open my fedex box tonight.. haven't yet done anything with the card, though)
23:40<kvandivo>i even got a cd with it. wasn't expecting that
23:40<Captain_Murdoch>ditto
23:40<Captain_Murdoch>had to manually extract the firmware though to try that. I think I'm running the hauppauge firmware now
23:41<overridex>ok, i had set my ip to 127.0.0.1 in my mythtv setup program when i first set it up.... now i went to try a frontend on my laptop and realized i had to change it, so i ran setup again and changed it to 192.168.0.3... but the frontend on the laptop is still trying to connect to 127.0.0.1.... what am i doing wrong?
23:41<Captain_Murdoch>tmk, I'll try to insert some debug statements if there's not enough already in there so I can see what's going on. it would lock when I did "modprobe ivtv", didn't even get to do a "cat /dev/video0"
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23:48<Captain_Murdoch>tmk: according to that patch, the 2 different boards use 2 different gpio values so the m179 may be different. I'm using Takeru's instructions to add an entry for the m179 but copying the gpio values from the other cards.
23:54<tmk>i see
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