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---Logopened Mon Jan 05 00:00:19 2004
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00:04<witten>any idea what would cause the backend to spontaneously die?
00:04<witten>I'm not seeing anything helpful in the logs
00:05<Chutt>get a backtrace?
00:05<Chutt>don't run it as a daemon until you've got things working properly?
00:05<witten>run it from gdb?
00:05<tmk>speaking of backtraces
00:05<tmk>did you ever look at mine chutt?
00:05<Chutt>unless it's printing out a message that's not being logged.
00:05<Chutt>tmk, yeah
00:05<Chutt>i can't reproduce it
00:06<tmk>ah well
00:06<tmk>thanks
00:06<Chutt>i know what's wrong, though
00:06<tmk>ah
00:06<tmk>old rev? :)
00:06<Chutt>it's not noticing that the remote backend went away
00:06<Chutt>naw, nothing's changed in there recently
00:06<tmk>cool. youdaman
00:06<tmk>you hear from mr. engel recently?
00:06<Chutt>i'm just not sure what to do, as on my setup, if i kill a remote backend, the master notices and deals with it properly
00:07<Chutt>he was supposed to be out of town until this weekend
00:07<tmk>cool
00:07<Chutt>so he'll hopefully be back around soon
00:07<Chutt>going to work on his stuff soon?
00:07<Chutt>i'd like to get that in mythtv =)
00:07<tmk>yeah i'm half done
00:07<Chutt>excellent, thanks =)
00:07<tmk>got the stream stop/flush in there
00:07<tmk>just need to do the ff one
00:07<tmk>also i put in a stop caputre one
00:07<Chutt>non-blocking writes?
00:08<tmk>hmm didn''t remember that
00:08<Chutt>was only a few lines for that
00:08<tmk>i'll look over his patch again
00:08<tmk>yeah i'll probably take that straight from the patch
00:09<tmk>lots of new subsystem-id's coming out lately
00:09<tmk>not sure if that's good or bad
00:09<Chutt>yeah
00:09<Chutt>just card variants
00:09<tmk>3 in the last week
00:09<tmk>right
00:09<Chutt>i'm just wondering if their inputs are differently ordered
00:10<tmk>yeah the 0.2.0 code will have all that easily configurable
00:10<tmk>or at least configurable :)
00:10<vagrant>ergh.
00:10<vagrant>are the keys configurable in mythtv?
00:10<Chutt>of course.
00:10<tmk>chutt: do you prefer any particular input name? I was thinking of changing "Tuner 0" to "Television"
00:10<Chutt>run mythweb, go to the settings page in there
00:10<vagrant>hrm.
00:11<Chutt>tmk, be prepared to break everyone's myth machine :p
00:11<tmk>right
00:11<tmk>i'll have to do that anyhow i think
00:11<tmk>for some people at least
00:11<Chutt>i can auto-upgrade people's databases
00:11<tmk>ie if they have the cards with inputs named differently
00:11<tmk>ie if composite 4 is the tuner
00:11<Chutt>i don't use the input number, i use the name of it
00:11<tmk>that's gonna have to change
00:11<tmk>right
00:12<vagrant>gah. I hate mysql.
00:12<tmk>perhaps i can commission a script from someone
00:12<tmk>to convert the database
00:12<Chutt>i'll handle that
00:12<tmk>k
00:12<Chutt>no worries
00:12<tmk>also 0.2.0 will support v4l2 streaming
00:12<Chutt>i'll just have to make a decision on when to convert things over
00:12<Chutt>eh, doesn't really matter to me
00:12<Chutt>the one frame reads work well enough
00:12<tmk>well if you want yuv out
00:12<tmk>;)
00:13<Chutt>i don't, so =)
00:13<tmk>really? people don't want to playback their mpg4''s on the pvr350
00:13<Chutt>oh, true
00:13<Chutt>i figured that'd work the same as the current decoder
00:13<tmk>we'll see
00:13<Chutt>just writing full images instead of compressed stuff
00:13<tmk>yuv's a lot more data
00:13<Chutt>please don't make it _too_ different :p
00:14<tmk>it'll work the same as currently
00:14<Chutt>i'd like to use the same output class, if possible
00:14<tmk>jsut depends if you do the streamoff streamon stuff
00:14<tmk>optional to do streaming
00:14<tmk>hopefully write() is fast enough
00:14<tmk>i'm going to try doing zero-copy
00:14<tmk>we'll see how that goes
00:14<Chutt>will i have to pre-scale things?
00:14<tmk>not sure
00:15<Chutt>and how's audio sync going to work?
00:15<tmk>it scales mpg currently
00:15<tmk>there's a delay ioctl i'll have to write
00:15<tmk>:/
00:15<Chutt>it'd be neat if it could act as a dsp device for audio as well =)
00:15<tmk>yeah that'll take some r&d
00:15<tmk>it MAY be possible
00:15<tmk>but i havne't seen anything in the docs that indiciates it's possible
00:15<tmk>or not
00:15<Chutt>nothing in those firmware docs about it, but
00:15<Chutt>it'd make sense
00:15<tmk>yeah
00:16<tmk>that'd be nice
00:16<tmk>and if i can write audio-out
00:16<tmk>audio in should be pretty much the same
00:16<Chutt>no soundcard =)
00:16<tmk>and i can finally have radio
00:16<tmk>yeah
00:16<tmk>my epia has it all builtin
00:16<tmk>:)
00:16<Chutt>yeah, but the cabling mess is annoying
00:16<tmk>but it'd be really nice to get the sound out internally
00:16<tmk>cause the epia can't output digital out from an analog line-in
00:17*tmk shakes fist angrilyl
00:17<Chutt>heh
00:17<Chutt>i really want to replace mine
00:17<Chutt>i want two tuners
00:17<tmk>get a riser card
00:17<Chutt>and i don't want to buy a new case
00:17<tmk>ahh
00:17<tmk>i still need to find a working powersupply for mine
00:17<Chutt>heh
00:17<tmk>did i tell you about that? bought a flex-atx powersupply
00:17<tmk>long and thin
00:18<tmk>worked 1 out of 10 times
00:18<tmk>and the network didn't really work
00:18<Chutt>heh, sucks
00:18<tmk>so i returned it
00:18<Chutt>which powersupply?
00:18<tmk>got a new one
00:18<tmk>same problem
00:18<tmk>HEC-200
00:18<Chutt>i've got a crappy flex-atx one with a loud 40mm fan in it
00:18<tmk>lemme find link
00:18<Chutt>so i replaced the fan with something quieter, so i'm waiting for it to die of heat
00:19<ChaosExiguum>Im using a 90w ac-dc converter and a dc-dc powersupply, no fans, no underpowering trouble
00:19<tmk>http://directron.com/hec200srt.html
00:19<tmk>ChaosExiguum: might work, but i'll be running 2 pvr cards and the epia
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00:20<Chutt>and a harddrive
00:20<tmk>yeah
00:20<tmk>and a dvd
00:20<Chutt>ah, no, i don't have that one..
00:20<tmk>dvd/cdrw
00:21<tmk>i like the shape
00:21<ChaosExiguum>hmm, dunno about with 2 pvr cards... and all that stuff, I could get out the multimeter
00:21<Chutt>http://www.power-on.com/flexatx.html
00:21<Chutt>i've got the flex atx-135pf
00:21<ChaosExiguum>what sort of cases are you guys using?
00:21<tmk>does it work wiht the epia?
00:22<Chutt>yeah, works fine
00:22<tmk>ChaosExiguum: i made mine :)
00:22<Chutt>it's _loud_, though
00:22<tmk>oh hm
00:22<Chutt>and i really didn't like performing surgery on mine
00:22<tmk>just the one fan?
00:22<Chutt>yeah
00:22<tmk>well, at least i know flex atx works with the epia
00:22<Chutt>that came with the case i first got for the mini-itx
00:23<Chutt>which won't fix a pvr-350
00:23<tmk>i was concerned that the flex-atx was missing some power
00:23<Chutt>fit
00:23<ChaosExiguum>tmk, thats really the best way to go I think now (having a $250 case thats really only worth $100)
00:23<tmk>ChaosExiguum: yeah, it's pretty cool and all
00:23<tmk>but the powersupply thing is killing me
00:23<vagrant>oh you sonsabitches.
00:23<tmk>returning internet orders sucks
00:23<tmk>don't get replacements for like 3 weeks
00:23<vagrant>I *know* you didn't make mythweb depend on apache mod_php.
00:23<vagrant>apparently you did though.
00:24<vagrant>beautiful.
00:24<Chutt>vagrant, oh boohoo
00:24<ChaosExiguum>heh
00:24<vagrant>let's see what I have to do to fix this.
00:25<Chutt>i'm pretty damn sure it's not dependent on it.
00:25<DJ_Rican>yep... and Apache mod_php can be hacked....
00:26<vagrant>Chutt: setting php values in .htaccess needs mod_php - it's not the only way to do that, I don't think - I'm investigating it - but this is generally a "Bad Thing"(tm).
00:26<Chutt>it's an example .htaccess
00:27<vagrant>DJ_Rican: are you making a poor attempt at being sarcastic?
00:27<Chutt>nothing in there's _necessary_, iirc
00:27<DJ_Rican>me? no never... i can't be sarcastic.. i'm not a mythtv developer... :)
00:27<vagrant>Chutt: that's the first step I'm trying, disabling it.
00:27<vagrant>DJ_Rican: mod_php doesn't exactly have the best security record.
00:28<DJ_Rican>i know :)
00:28<vagrant>and it's especially not secure in a multi-user hosting environment
00:28<DJ_Rican>so it's not really sarcastic if it's true huh?
00:28<vagrant>ah.
00:28<vagrant>DJ_Rican: I thought you were implying I'm being anal about mod_php security. heh.
00:28<DJ_Rican>no dude
00:29<Chutt>yeah, mythweb works fine without the example .htaccess that's in there.
00:29<vagrant>excellent.
00:29<vagrant>gah. stupid apache.
00:30cmorgan_awayis now known as cmorgan
00:33<vagrant>I must set the REDIRECT_STATUS CGI variable. ergh.
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00:35<DJ_Rican>what's with the little jumping icon thingy when i view an mpg?
00:35<Chutt>what icon thingy?
00:37<DJ_Rican>ok.. i read in the user list that a .nuv file is simply a .mpg file renamed... so i renamed one to .mpg and when i view it... there's an icon jumping all over the place... a little white box with a dot
00:37<Chutt>it's only a .mpg if you're using a pvr-250/350 or similar card.
00:37<Chutt>if you're asking about some other player software than mythtv, that's not my problem
00:38<DJ_Rican>i am using a pvr-250 :)
00:48*nvision away init 0
00:49<tmk>pvr-250 .nuv files are just .mpgs
00:50<tmk>you can play them in mplayer or whatever
00:51<DJ_Rican>tmk: i know... but if i copy them to my winders, thay have that elecard icon thingy, no matter what player i use... :(
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00:53<tmk>elecard?
00:54<tmk>probably because they supplied your mpg decoder
00:54<extremis>so... on the DVB settings, what is the option for record from transport stream?
00:54<extremis>rather, what does it imply
00:56<vagrant>there we go.
00:56<DJ_Rican>darn it, i deleted that elecard no i can't play them at all!! :(
01:07<extremis>saa7115.c:1118: unknown field `dec_use' specified in initializer
01:07<extremis>anyone gotten that before when compiling ivtv?
01:07<tmk>ext: uncomment the -DNEW_I2C line
01:07<tmk>in Makefile
01:08<extremis>thanks tmk
01:08<tmk>http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q28
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01:28<vagrant>wow.
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02:27<shamoun_>later all
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03:06<tmk>chutt: released new cvs-latest, with non-blocking writes, flushing 'stop decode' ioctl, and more complete speed ioctl
03:07<tmk>mention it to mr engel if you see him before i do
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03:48<mchou>dmitry: you around?
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04:33<squinky>hey so like
04:33<squinky>I just got mythmusic working
04:33<squinky>is it supposed to take about 15 seconds between songs, or am I just hosed
04:34<squinky>?
04:35<sfr>it's not supposed to wait 15 secs.
04:35<squinky>aha
04:36<squinky>I'm mainly making sure this wasn't some kind of ill-advised design feature before I try chasing its source down
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04:38<squinky>it's probably got something to do with the POS machine I'm running it on
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09:52<rcam>Hello.
09:53<rcam>seen cecil
09:53<rcam>Seen cecil?
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11:36<bitbyte>sfr you there?
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11:47<sfr>bitbyte: hi
11:48<bitbyte>myth~sfr: i just got the file off that machine, works great
11:48<bitbyte>very nice uqlity
11:48<bitbyte>quality
11:48<sfr>great. i'm glad it works
11:48<bitbyte>me too
11:48<bitbyte>i really appreciate it!
11:49<bitbyte>my wife can't wait to see it
11:49<bitbyte>hehe
11:49<bitbyte>been a long time
11:49<bitbyte>i was reading online that it's from the 1920's
11:49<bitbyte>i didnt know it was that old
11:49<kvandivo>a file from the 1920s? that's impressive
11:50<sfr>hah. btw, nuvexport automatically created a SVCD file in PAL. that wouldn't have helped you i think.
11:50<sfr>kvandivo: yeah. i typed for 3 weeks 0's and 1's off an old book
11:51<sfr>bitbyte: i don't know about the story itself, but the movie is from the late 50's afaik.
11:51<bitbyte>really, thats interesting
11:51<bitbyte>sfr, i just read on a website that it's from the 1920's
11:51<bitbyte>hang on
11:52<bitbyte>http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa010101a.htm
11:52<bitbyte>It's a bit bizarre when you think about it. A short British cabaret sketch from the 1920s has become a German New Year's tradition. Yet, although \x93Dinner for One or the 90th Birthday\x94 is a famous cult classic in Germany and several other European countries, it is virtually unknown in the English-speaking world, including Britain, its birthplace.
11:52<kvandivo>never heard of it
11:54<bitbyte>kvandivo, what country do you live in?
11:54<sfr>funny that the quotes are in german too. i've never seen this sketch being played in german.
11:54<bitbyte>i've only seent he introduction in German
11:54<bitbyte>which is odd, because usually german tv overdubs the original soundtrack
11:55<kvandivo>usa
11:55<bitbyte>i wa windering if the german announcer at the beginning was part of the original film or if they overlayed him in the scene somehow
11:55<bitbyte>usa, so do i, i've never ever seen it int he US and other than myself and my wife i don't know anyone here who has heard of it
11:55<bitbyte>unless they are german or european
11:56<sfr>usually = 99% of all foreign movies :(. but playing it in english gives it a different atmosphere i think.
11:56<bitbyte>sfr, agreed, but they translated alf
11:56<bitbyte>hehe, you havent lived til you've seen alf, golden girls and John Wayne in german
11:56<bitbyte>hehee
11:56<sfr>hehe. must sound very strange if you know the original
11:57<bitbyte>very strange
11:57<bitbyte>:P
11:57<bitbyte>in .be and .nl they subtitale, although soemtimes they don't even do that, most everyone speaks english
11:57<bitbyte>subtitle
11:59<sfr>i wish they would do that in germany too.
11:59<Sobek>Hey guys quick question I am running RedHat 9 on my myth box and after mplayer runs the window focus is wrong and the remote obviously does not get the job done. I am using the default window manager is there a way around this besides changing window mangers?
12:00<thor_>change focus policy
12:01<pahli_bar>what plugin pops up mplayer?
12:01<thor_>mythvideo
12:01<Sobek>Cool.. mythvideo
12:01<Sobek>I will try that
12:01<sfr>pahli_bar: or mythdvd
12:01<thor_>heh, oh yeah
12:01<thor_>that too
12:01<pahli_bar>heh.
12:01<pahli_bar>thanks
12:02<pahli_bar>any plans of embedding it in a qwidget/qdialog
12:02<thor_>we need a native player
12:02<thor_>but mplayer is a handy stop gap
12:03<pahli_bar>that would be the ultimate goal
12:03<bitbyte>sfr, never happen, they translate EVERYTHING, even "microwave" haha.!
12:03<sfr>what format do you use for archiving recorded shows? especially when using a pvr350 card.
12:04<sfr>bitbyte: true. btw, do you know what a 'handy' is?
12:04<bitbyte>no
12:05<thor_>immediately useful (at hand)
12:05<sfr>it's a mobile phone :)
12:05<pahli_bar>heh
12:05<bitbyte>ahh
12:05<bitbyte>i was thinkin that
12:06<bitbyte>its the only thing i could think of
12:06<sfr>even cellphone makes more sense than 'handy'
12:06<pahli_bar>is that british slang?
12:06<sfr>probably if you don't know it, pahli_bar :)
12:07<kvandivo>definitely not _only_ british
12:07<pahli_bar>i haven't heard it being used here in us
12:07<pahli_bar>s/us/US
12:08<thor_>defintely sounds like Essex Man speak
12:08<kvandivo> Ready to the hand; near; also, suited to the use of the
12:08<kvandivo> hand; convenient; valuable for reference or use; as, my
12:08<kvandivo> tools are handy; a handy volume.
12:08<kvandivo>that's from websters 1913 dictionary
12:09<pahli_bar>oh no. i mean in as a synonym for a cellphone
12:09<kvandivo>ahhh..... hmmmm
12:09<pahli_bar>i know what handy means ... grrr
12:09<kvandivo>i thought the brits always called them 'mobiles'. (with a long 'i')
12:09<sfr>kvandivo: i don't think there's a meaningfull explanation for 'handy' that describes a phone. that's a prime example of denglish i think.
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12:14<sfr>why would windows media player v7 fail to play a SVCD? it doesn't recognize the mpeg file created by nuvexport
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12:16<thor_>becuase it sucks
12:17<sfr>i hope the svcd itself is ok. i don't have a standalone dvd player to test.
12:17<thor_>mplayer svcd:// ?
12:17<bitbyte>svcd is mpeg2
12:17<sfr>that's working, but mplayer takes almost everything :)
12:17<thor_>handy
12:17<bitbyte>do you have the mpg2 codecs for it?
12:18<bitbyte>sometimes they just dont recognize the format
12:18<sfr>it's a default w2k instllation.
12:18<bitbyte>you can go into the mpegav folder and play the dat file as an mpg
12:18<bitbyte>win2k doesnt support mpg2 playback by defualt
12:18<bitbyte>you have to install some 3rd party playback codec
12:18<bitbyte>like windvd or power dvd
12:19<bitbyte>mpeg2 is proprietary and cant be licensed for free
12:19<bitbyte>whereas mpg1 is free
12:19<sfr>ok, i think i have windvd. checking
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12:20<bitbyte>pl
12:20<bitbyte>ok
12:20<sfr>of course i don't have it ;)
12:20<bitbyte>download the free trial version
12:21<bitbyte>i prefer powerdvd myself
12:21<sfr>looks like the trial version so that one i have
12:21<bitbyte>hehe ok
12:21<sfr>but not a licensed copy if you know what i mean
12:21<bitbyte>that will get you int he ballaprk
12:21<bitbyte>i can find you some codecs if you like
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12:22<sfr>you don't need to. i only use it for work stuff.
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12:25<pahli_bar>sfr: usually (s)vcd have some videostream resolution dependency. wmp might not play non-standard vcds. but i could be totally wrong
12:25<pahli_bar>s/dependency/restriction
12:26<sfr>pahli_bar: the format should be ok, the file is in PAL mode with 480x576 resolution
12:28<pahli_bar>sfr: how did you make the iso/cue-bin. using vcdimager?
12:28<sfr>pahli_bar: yes
12:29<pahli_bar>sfr: then should not be a problem at all. as bitbyte said, missing codecs might be the most likely reason
12:30<sfr>probably. and windvd's temp license also expired looong time ago. but what do i care. will test the cd somewhere else
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12:36<bitbyte>pahli may be right, but to my knowledge the only problem is that wmp doesnt support mpeg2 by default
12:36<bitbyte>hang on sfr, i can find you a free codec
12:38<pahli_bar>http://www.nwlink.com/~zachd/pss/pss.html#mpeg2
12:38<bitbyte>thats a codec for him pahli?
12:38<pahli_bar>yes. not sure if its free
12:39<sfr>pahli_bar bitbyte thx. i
12:39<pahli_bar>hmm. nope. usual registration crap
12:39<sfr>'ll install it later
12:39<bitbyte>http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/encoding_plugin.html
12:40<bitbyte>those are marked as to wtherther they are free or not
12:40<bitbyte>http://www.digital-digest.net/downloads/files/encode/mpeg2codec_installer.zip
12:40<bitbyte>tadaaa
12:40<bitbyte>the power of google
12:40<bitbyte>hehe
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13:04<sfr>mpeg2codec doesn't work with media player. so be it. reboot into linux, please...
13:06<sfr>GM to give away 1000 cars? Hey VW you hear that!
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14:04<crib2>Question: I had to dump and rebuild my mythconverg database. I still have a directory with my .nuv files in it...any way to recover those?
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14:06<Chutt>contrib/myth.rebuilddatabase.pl
14:07<crib2>thx i'll try that
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14:07<tmk>Chutt: do you think david will be making another patch for myth/ivtv? or will you just modify his slightly?
14:09<Chutt>he'll probably check stuff into mythtv cvs
14:09<Chutt>if the driver stuff's all there
14:09<tmk>cool
14:10<Chutt>i may update his patch until he's able to do that, though
14:10<Chutt>as I want to try out current ivtv cvs
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14:30<vagrant>hrm.
14:31<vagrant>when it says "2004-01-05 13:28:59 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV", is that referring to lirc mode?
14:31<sfr>looks like it's time for someone to start mythradio :)
14:32<vagrant>eh?
14:33<sfr>vagrant: both, your question and my line are not related to lirc
14:33<sfr>someone reported succes on getting the tuner on a pvr350 card working
14:34<vagrant>ah.
14:34<thor_>FM tuner ?
14:34<sfr>yepp
14:34<vagrant>is there a tuner on the pvr250?
14:34<thor_>cool
14:34<dja>nope :-(
14:34<sfr>vagrant: no, sorry
14:39<vagrant>doh.
14:39<vagrant>lirc mode is for sticky keys, right?
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14:43<vagrant>geez. this documentation isn't very clear.
14:43<thor_>have no idea what you mean by "lirc mode"
14:43<vagrant>in lircrc
14:44<pahli_bar>vagrant: you r not being very clear
14:45<vagrant>ok then.
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14:46<vagrant>when using lirc, the linux infrared remote control programs, what exactly do modes in the lircrc do?
14:47*pahli_bar looks at his .lircrc and can't find any "modes"
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14:47<vagrant>pahli_bar: you obviously didn't put any in then, suggesting you haven't heard of them. I absolve you from answering my question.
14:47<vagrant>heh.
14:48<thor_>grep modes /etc/lircd.conf
14:48<thor_>nada
14:48<vagrant>thor_: did I say lircd.conf?
14:48<racer_away>modes in lircrc??? Nope
14:48<vagrant>lircd.conf sets up individual remote control keycodes.
14:48<pahli_bar>vagrant: no. you just made of yourself
14:48<pahli_bar>s/made/made a fool/
14:48<vagrant>http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html#lircrc_format
14:49<racer_away>why no use the sample lircrc from mythtv
14:49<racer_away>bye now!
14:49<vagrant>...
14:49<vagrant>I *have* used the sample lircrc.
14:50<thor_>grep "mode" ~/.lircrc
14:50<vagrant>and I'm looking to extend functionality.
14:50<thor_>still nada
14:50<vagrant>thor_: just because you don't have it in your configuration doesn't mean it can't exist.
14:50<thor_>agreed
14:50<vagrant>sorry for even fucking asking, I assumed you guys might have looked a bit at configuring lirc.
14:51<pahli_bar>vagrant: hmm. the documentation (at the link you provided) is pretty clear at explaining what modes do
14:52<vagrant>fine then. I didn't find it very clear.
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15:49<Chutt>thor, how's the mfd stuff coming?
15:49<thor_>moving along
15:50<Chutt>just noticed your commits today =)
15:50<thor_>:-)
15:50<thor_>multithreaded http thingy works
15:50<thor_>just doing on the fly ogg/flac --> wav converting now
15:51<Chutt>oh, for itunes to play?
15:51<thor_>yup
15:51<thor_>we can advertise "play your oggs in iTunes"
15:51<thor_>hee hee
15:51<Chutt>heh
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15:52<thor_>then need to finish the daap client plugin
15:52<thor_>then need to right a rudimentary client to see if any of this is working as planned
15:52<thor_>w/right/write
16:03<kvandivo>i'm sure it will be, of course
16:04<kvandivo>none of us have ever experience the working model not working exactly as planned
16:04<thor_>rudimentary, yes .... as planned, well, that's the plan :)
16:05<Chutt>ah, i see why mythmusic's deleting/reentering everything on every scan
16:05<thor_>something goofy I did ?
16:05<Chutt>naw, sfr missed one place
16:06<thor_>ah ... the /location/folder change
16:06<Chutt>yeah
16:06<thor_>good to get that fixed ... tired of re-entering playlists
16:07*sfr doesn't use playlists :)
16:07<sfr>what/where did i screw up?
16:07<Chutt>BuildFileList()
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16:07<Chutt>in main.cpp
16:07<Chutt>it's using the full path
16:12<sfr>ah, shoot
16:13<kvandivo>bang
16:13<thor_>Chutt, at your leisure, you can rip out /mfd/mfd/plugins/daapserver/httpd_persistent from mfd cvs
16:14<Chutt>just cvs remove all the files in the directory
16:15<thor_>I'm trying to get rid of the directory itself
16:15<thor_>or we can just use -P
16:15<Chutt>cvs update -P
16:15<thor_>yup, just annoying to have it sitting there
16:19<sfr>i think i didn't miss it. my idea was that we always keep the full path and only cut if off for updates in the db.
16:24<steelep>with mfd are we going to finally be able to watch tv while playing music?
16:24<steelep>:)
16:25<thor_>yup ... well, that's the plan
16:26<steelep>awesome.
16:26<steelep>while you are doing daap, is it something winamp can connect to?
16:26<steelep>or just an iTunes thing.
16:26<thor_>as soon as winamp adds a daap client :-)
16:27<steelep>I really like winamp5 now, it fixed everything I ever hated about winamp
16:27<steelep>maybe a shoutcast server would suffice for my needs instead of daap for now
16:28<steelep>I just want to get at my home library from work
16:28<steelep>I hated downloading things over and over again
16:28<sfr>thor_: so how are playlists broken? my little test playlist is still there after exiting/restarting mythmusic
16:29<thor_>hmmm
16:29<thor_>after a scan ?
16:29<Chutt>actually, my problem was doubled //'s
16:29<racer32>yes after a scan
16:29<steelep>I have the autoplaylist thingy pretty close to being done in php
16:29<sfr>thor_: oh, one sec...
16:29<steelep>now I just need to convert it to c++
16:30<thor_>(I'm hitting the same database with mfd stuff, so it could be that)
16:30<steelep>is someone doing cover art display in the visualizer?
16:30<thor_>it's a frequent request
16:30<thor_>but I don't think anyone's actively workin gon it
16:31<steelep>I have spent the last 3 days working on fixing all my tags and adding embedded coverart....
16:31<Chutt>if i had a reliable way to grab coverart, i'd probably add it
16:31<racer32>visualizer? By selecting music showing the cover would be nice!
16:31<steelep>I am up to "B" :)
16:31<Chutt>but there isn't one, so i haven't ever bothered
16:31<thor_>I think you can do it through itms://, but I'm still poking at the xml
16:32<racer32>i talked to pahli and after his work on the gallery he's thinking about mythmusic! :)
16:32<racer32>Nice interface for selecting music!
16:32<steelep>creating a visualizer plugin that extracts the art from a file, or scans the directory for jpgs should be pretty straight forward, I'll add it to my list of things to do
16:33<Chutt>very straightforward
16:33<thor_>you can get aac previews via itms:// (with a robust query mechanim), and the returned aac has a jpeg inside it
16:33<sfr>thor_: yes, created a playlist exit/restart mythmusic. scan for music files exit/restart mythmusic. the playlist is still in the db. are they being deleted from the db for you?
16:34<thor_>they were, but as I said, it may well be mfd code that's doing it
16:34<sfr>Chutt: ?
16:34<racer32>my playlist are also gone for some reason
16:34<Chutt>i just committed some stuff to use QDir::cleanDirPath
16:34<Chutt>on the music path
16:34<Chutt>before blindly removing that many characters from the filename =)
16:34<Chutt>fixed all my problems
16:35<thor_>cool
16:35<sfr>Chutt: it was only doing it half-blindly. it knows how many characters to remove. ;)
16:36<Chutt>heh
16:36<sfr>Chutt: i really didn't expect _you_ to have '//' in your path.
16:37<Chutt>i didn't think i did
16:38<sfr>Chutt: but before it deleted your playlists? or all musicmetadata entries?
16:39<Chutt>deleted all the musicmetadata entries
16:39<Chutt>so, in effect, cleared out my existing playlists
16:39<Chutt>not that i had any on this machine =)
16:39<steelep>btw: does the new wma support include wm9?
16:39<Chutt>try it and see
16:39<Chutt>i have absolutely no idea
16:39<steelep>I will when I get home
16:39<steelep>I have to do a full cvs refresh tonight
16:40<thor_>sfr, new entries, new db id's
16:40<sfr>thor_: sure
16:40<steelep>wm9 video support would be nice, I have a few HD videos in wm9
16:41<Chutt>that's up to other projects
16:41<steelep>I know, just blabbering
16:43<sfr>Chutt: thx
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16:54<sfr>Chutt: BuildFileList is actually ok then?
16:56<Chutt>yeah
16:56<Chutt>it was
16:57<sfr>thinking about it, i'd think it should even work with // in the path, it's just one more character to remove from the filename string
16:59<Chutt>the filename returned by BuildFileList won't have the doubled /
16:59<sfr>ah, of course. i shouldn't drink (even reasonable amounts ;)) and think
17:00<Chutt>heh
17:00<kvandivo>don't drink and think... that's a new one
17:00<thor_>crap
17:00<Chutt>so, any word on that streaming code?
17:00<thor_>time to give up thinking
17:02<sfr>not really. didn't do much/nothing over the holidays. i have extraction of stream metadata working, but somehow it gets confused after a few songs.
17:03<sfr>maybe 'don't think, just drink' is a better option for some.
17:03<thor_>hiccup
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17:06<mythMichale2>moanin'
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17:32<sfr>Chutt: any idea how that could happen? 2004-01-05 23:05:20 Error writing stringlist <CR>Remote encoder not responding. <CR>ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/include/qt3/qvaluelist.h <CR>QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid Socket . I have lots of these messages after ... hitting <PgUp> iirc. Live-TV still works but not Pausing/Rewind/etc...
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18:13<sfr>even when exiting my only (remote) frontend, there are still 16 open connections to 6543 listed on the backend and the frontend can't connect. thor, what about that 15 frontends you mentioned recently?
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18:22<cjs_>anyone want to buy a PVR-350? (almost new)
18:23<mecraw>how much and why are you selling it?
18:24<cjs_>$170...
18:24<cjs_>my box is having DMA isses
18:24<cjs_>issues
18:24<cjs_>and i cannot afford a new mobo
18:24<pahli_bar>cjs_: heh. newegg has it for 174$ with free shipping
18:25<sfr>cjs_: sell the mobo
18:25<cjs_>so im going to sell (or return) the pvr 350
18:25<cjs_>not in stock, they don't
18:25<pahli_bar>might be out of stock
18:25<cjs_>sfr, its way old
18:26<sfr>hm
18:26<cjs_>and the cpu is only a p3 667
18:26<pahli_bar>cjs_: not thinking of buying a new mobo/cpu?
18:26<cjs_>i guess im going to return the pvr-350...just thought i'd offer it to someone who can't find one
18:27<cjs_>pahli, well, im kind of disillusioned...
18:27<cjs_>probably not mythtv's fault but the whole thing has been less than stable
18:27<cjs_>this computer is kind of a peice of shit
18:27<cjs_>i mean, it was good in its day but showing its age
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18:30<MythMichale2>Hay tmk Ya around???
18:30<pahli_bar>cjs_: a new mobo/cpu combo. you can pick up for less than 100$ nowadays. but if you made up your mind already, ah well
18:30<MythMichale2>Moanin' Pahli :)
18:32<pahli_bar>evening MythMichale2
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18:36<cjs_>i've already spent $200 on this
18:36<cjs_>and i really cannot spend more
18:36<cjs_>i wish i could. :)
18:37<cjs_>i know this thing would work great with a new mobo
18:37<cjs_>not even sure that a new mobo would fit in this dell case
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18:59<bitbyte>a new mobo wont fit in the dell
19:02<cjs_>eh
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19:32<Sobek>Dumb question.. please no rtfm.
19:32<Sobek>Is hardware encoding supportend on the PVR 250?
19:32<mechou>RTFM
19:32<mechou>j/k
19:33<Sobek>Thanks mechou :-)
19:33<mechou>yeah. it's supported for mpeg2
19:33<sfr>Sobek: why would anyone pay ~140 USD for this card then :P
19:33<mechou>but really, rtfm.
19:34<Sobek>Smart ass :-)
19:34<mechou>language pls...
19:34<thor_>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#pvr250
19:34<Sobek>I could not remember if the 250 was supported Thanks
19:40<tmk>MythMichale: type 'xhost +'
19:40<tmk>that should fix it
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20:09<pahli_bar>qimage->qpixmap conversion speed sucks
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20:33*pahli_bar wonders how many complaints he will get if he makes mythgallery depend on imlib
20:34<sfr>imlib2?
20:34<pahli_bar>either imlib1/imlib2
20:35<pahli_bar>the directfb/qt-embedded people won't like it one bit, i can imagine
20:36<sfr>it's only 180kb
20:36<sfr>why not?
20:36<pahli_bar>thats not the problem. X11 dependency
20:36<sfr>a rather long depends line in debian, yes.
20:37<pahli_bar>hmm. not much. qt itself depends on all of them
20:37<pahli_bar>Chutt: any comments
20:39<pahli_bar>imlib1/2 is amazingly fast in converting images to X11 pixmaps
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20:51<Octane>who is the main contributor to mythgame these days?
20:52<thor_>other than the occasional patch, it has not really been worked on in months
20:54<Octane>hi thor :)
20:54<thor_>hey
20:54<Octane>im going to post my actisys on ebay now
20:54<Octane>piece of crap transmitter, i should have built my own from the start
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21:01<Chutt>no imlib
21:18<cjs_>which actisys
21:18*cjs_ just got his ir200l
21:18<cjs_>hope it works
21:18<cmorgan>ir blaster?
21:19<cjs_>"ACT-IR 200L"
21:21<Octane>i just put pics up of my mythbox
21:23<cjs_>i wonder if a new, better system would really fix my lockup problems
21:29<Octane>a new motherboard fixed mine
21:29<Octane>but it wasnt lockup
21:29<Octane>was a VIA-based board
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21:32<cjs_>i see occaisional DMA errors
21:32<cjs_>but im not sure that is the problem
21:32<cjs_>dunno if its a patched kernel either
21:32<thor_>Octane, ebay url ?
21:32<cjs_>(running lunar-linux's "standard" patched kernel, which has preemptive stuff amongst other things)
21:33<Octane>thor_: one sec, finalizing sell
21:33<Octane>sale
21:33<Octane>err auction
21:41<Octane>sorryim really lagged, one sec
21:43<Octane>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3451376482
21:43<Octane>there ya go
21:46<Teflon>ouch, 4236 messages in my mythtv-dev folder
21:57<Octane>if i can only get rid of this random sound stuttering, id be 100% satisfied. anyone ever experience such a thing? using sb live w/ alsa 1.0.0pre2
21:57<Octane>i usually get it during channel changes, but also at random times while watching livetv
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22:43<accurate>if two programs come on at the same time, does giving one of the two conflicting programs a rank of "+1" force it to record?
22:44<accurate>I just want to know how this ranking system works
22:44<accurate>what it does, I mean
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22:47<kvandivo>if you are referring to the recording priorities, yes, it is used to solve conflicts. the higher priority shows should win over lower priority ones
22:48<accurate>oh ok, just what I needed to know. Thanks
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23:56<kvandivo>anyone else lost their hammer icon, or have i done something to muck with my own setup?
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