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---Logopened Sun Jan 11 00:00:00 2004
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00:00<Salec_>so wait
00:00<Salec_>if i'm watching livetv
00:00<Salec_>and it comes time for a recording
00:00<Salec_>what will happen?
00:00<Chutt>it'll ask you if it can record
00:00<Chutt>then go and record it
00:01<Salec_>damn
00:01<Salec_>so i have to be there to say yes
00:01<Chutt>um
00:01<Chutt>no.
00:01<DJ_Rican>if you don't answer, it will record it
00:01<Salec_>ohhh
00:01<Salec_>good
00:01<Chutt>you do lose your pre-roll time, though
00:01<Chutt>if you do it that way
00:01<DJ_Rican>and change the live view to the program recording
00:03<DJ_Rican>chutt: in order for me to see program guide category colors, etc... I have to theme myhttv?
00:03<Chutt>no.
00:03<Chutt>unless you've turned some default settings off.
00:03<DJ_Rican>ok...
00:05<mchou>hey chutt, is commercial flagging strictly a "post-process" regardless of HW or SW encode now? I seem to recall in earlier myth versions commercial flaggin for SW encode was "in-line...."
00:05<Chutt>it does blank-frame detection for sw encoding while it records
00:06<Chutt>but it'll still run through afterwards for the scene change detection
00:08<mchou>oh, ok. So "Blank frames" selection implies it will do *both* blank frame and scene change detection, correct?
00:08<Chutt>i dunno
00:08<Chutt>ask captain_murdoch when he's around, really
00:08<mchou>ok....
00:08<mchou>thx...
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00:26*DJ_Rican is :( still trying to find out how to repair program guide....
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00:27<monkeyBox>anyone here got much experience w/ frambuffer on epia?
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00:36<DJ_Rican>do i have to delete the whole table 'program' in the database to redo my program guid?
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00:50<eecshate>anyone know what the svideo input is for the 350....like what number i need to pass to test_ioctl
00:51<DJ_Rican>i tried a few until 5 worked :)
00:51<eecshate>thx
00:51<eecshate>yeah i've done a bunch :0
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00:57<eecshate>huh it was 6 for me
00:57<eecshate>ohh well it works
00:57<eecshate>nice job guys...i'm impressed with myth already
00:57<eecshate>(former freevo user)
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00:58<ShockValue>ok, maybe someone has an answer for a very strange problem. I am using mplayer for DVD and VOB playback through mythtv
00:58<ShockValue>when i boot using my monitor, -vo xv looks fine. when i boot with my monitor AND TV, -vo xv looks fine. but when i boot with JUST my TV hooked up, -vo xv has a bright blue line across the top of the screen when playing movies in full screen
01:02<DJ_Rican>fu...!!!! i just screwed up my database... can someone post the field labels of the program table?
01:02<eecshate>can anyone tell me what the output device handle is for the pvr350?
01:03<ShockValue>DJ_Rican: perhaps : mysql < mc.sql ?
01:05<DJ_Rican>no such file....
01:12<DJ_Rican>it says can't create database... database exisst
01:14<DJ_Rican>ok.. what tables do i have to drop in order to recreate the program guide? i've done channels and program
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01:28<DJ_Rican>ack! :( ok... now i'm prolly gonna have to re-install mythtv! :(
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01:30<DJ_scrwdmth>QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
01:30<DJ_scrwdmth>Database error was:
01:30<DJ_scrwdmth>Table 'mythconverg.channel' doesn't exist
01:31<DJ_scrwdmth>that's what i get after dropping a couple of tables as suggested by the mythuser list... :(
01:36<monkeyBox>damn.. I have my mythmusic frontend set up w/ a NFS mount, but when I try to play something with mythmusic, I get a "DecoderMad" error (failed to open input).. My export is exported as *(rw), and mounted w/ mount -o rw... why else would this be happening?
01:36<monkeyBox>I am able to play the songs w/ cmd-line utilities...
01:53<ShockValue>as the same user that is running myth?
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02:09<monkeyBox>ShockValue: yes...
02:09<monkeyBox>ShockValue: everything's runing as root on the frontend
02:09<monkeyBox>I also mounted the nfs share as *(rs,sync,no_root_sqash) and it still won't work.
02:10<monkeyBox>I can successfully read and write to the music directory, but mythmusic seems to have a tough time with this
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02:32<monkeyBox>dammit now mythfrontend segfaults when I play music :-(
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02:46<mchou>anyone know if you can watch dvds (say with xine) via the pvr-350 tv-out with the ivtv-fb driver ?
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03:16<Netslayer>anyone here use mythnotify?
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04:10<Rroet>moi
04:10<Rroet>moin'
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08:46<HenkPoley>Anyone here knows good documentation about Gentoo USE flags used when emerging mythtv & mythtfrontend ?
08:48<pahli_bar>HenkPoley: the user mailing lists will provide you good tips. search in the archives
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08:51<MythMicha>Guten morgen.. ;)
08:51<HenkPoley>Thank you pahli_bar
08:51<HenkPoley>Guten morgen MythMicha
08:52<MythMicha>I found a module that allows Myth to connect to a TIVO and play the TIVO data thru the Myth.. Has anyone played with this??
08:52<HenkPoley>Ist es nicht ein bisschen spaet fuer morgen?
08:52<sfr>Hier schon
08:52<HenkPoley>MythMicha, I heard of it before
08:53<HenkPoley>I believe some people use it, there's some site of a guy with an Asus Pundit that tries to use it
08:53<HenkPoley>Google for it if you want
08:54<StuartL>Has anyone found a way of changing the window size of the myth configuration tool?
08:54<StuartL>I know you can do it for mythfrontend...
08:54<MythMicha>OK kewl.. yea I just got it.. Was wondering what the skinny is on it as far as how good it is.. It says it works with Myth0.11... So
08:54<hardwired>StuartL: i configured by moving the myth setup window around
08:55<pahli_bar>StuartL: hmm. i think the setup tool window is fixed to the size of your desktop.
08:55<hardwired>StuartL: alt-click into the window and then move it. annoying, but works
08:55<StuartL>Alt-click - good idea, hadn't thought of that.
08:55<StuartL>I was restricted to finding the title bar by guesswork :)
08:55<StuartL>It's all configured now but it could be a nice improvement for future releases :)
08:56<pahli_bar>StuartL: whats wrong with it currently?
08:57<StuartL>pahli_bar: The TV Out on the PVR-350 overscans the TV by a LOT. If the mythsetup util sizes itself according to the desktop size significant portions of the window are invisible.
08:57<StuartL>You can work around it by moving the window around but it's very awkward and requires some guesswork as to the location of the 'next' and 'back' buttons etc.
08:58<pahli_bar>you are talking about the x setup not the tvout. so you should fix the overscan/x11 issues first before trying to setup myth
08:59<StuartL>I can't sort out the overscan, the card doesn't seem to have any setting to adjust it.
08:59<StuartL>Is there an override I can put into X11 to work around it?
09:01<pahli_bar>somebody with a pvr350 should be able to answer that. i have only a pvr250 :(
09:02<StuartL>:)
09:02<StuartL>I like the card a lot.
09:02<hardwired>StuartL: just set it up using alt-click and be done with it
09:02<StuartL>The quality of the picture is astonishing.
09:02<StuartL>hardwired: Heh :)
09:02<StuartL>hardwired: I'm investigating whether the framebuffer device honours the dotclock/htimings etc in XF86Config.
09:03<StuartL>I'm curious if I can adjust it manually.
09:03<pahli_bar>StuartL: if its x11 running on framebuffer it should respect xf86config setup
09:03<MythMicha>StuartL Lemme know what you find.. I am having the same issues... I thought it was the ###x### setting in XF86Config
09:04<StuartL>MythMicha: I have a dual standard TV (NTSC and PAL), it seems to happen on both.
09:05<StuartL>MythMicha: Besides, the width is as much of a problem as the height and NTSC is the same width as PAL.
09:08<MythMicha>My issue might be centered around the fact I have a TV on the PVR350 and a monitor on my GEForce4 card
09:08<MythMicha>It's been a lower priority then some other issues I have been addressing...
09:09*StuartL nods, this is more annoying than anything else.
09:09<StuartL>It's driving me mad :)
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09:12<MythMicha>Stuart Com'on Be honest... It's not a drive.. It's more of a short walk, right? :)
09:13<MythMicha>It would have to be for anyone that wanted to tackle Myth :)
09:13<MythMicha>I know that I have been having a great time with it. :)
09:15*StuartL laughs
09:16<StuartL>I'm trying to decode the framebuffer.txt file in the kernel docs atm :)
09:18<pahli_bar>StuartL: you are looking in the wrong place. if i understand correct, x11 runs on ivtv framebuffer for pvr350. you should be looking at x11 configurations
09:30<StuartL>pahli_bar: I am :)
09:30<StuartL>pahli_bar: I'm using the framebuffer.txt file to understand what those timing specs in XF86Config mean for a framebuffer :)
09:36<HenkPoley>emerging perl LWP fails :-/
09:38<HenkPoley>That's dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69-r2
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09:41<hardwired>HenkPoley: what are you doing with lwp?
09:41<HenkPoley>dunno
09:41<HenkPoley>emerging mythtv installs is
09:41<HenkPoley>..t
09:42<hardwired>oh? ok.
09:42<HenkPoley>Well, it fails to emerge :-;/
09:43<HenkPoley>I might try to get 0.13, but then I get all 'unstable' packages...
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09:52<HenkPoley>Just read the tests wants to bind to the hostname, so you need your hostname in /etc/hosts
09:52<HenkPoley>retrying
09:52*HenkPoley crossses fingers
09:52<HenkPoley>yay ^_^
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09:59<bitbyte>hoi henk, hoe'st?
09:59<bitbyte>:)
09:59<HenkPoley>goed
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10:00<HenkPoley>lirc failed...
10:00<HenkPoley>next one.. :-/
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10:00<HenkPoley>You need IR kernel modules before you can compile lirc?
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10:05<jmblack>Im having a problem compiling mythmusic with fftw on..."visualize.h:21:19: rfftw.h: No such file or directory" and its true rfftw.h definately does not exist, hints?
10:06<pahli_bar>jmblack: install fftw development package
10:06<jmblack>1st thought was that it was included with fftw-devel, but that hasnt seemed to help ;(
10:06<jmblack>what dir needs to be in the include path? or now do I find out...
10:06<jmblack>err how to I find out
10:06<pahli_bar>jmblack: what distro
10:06<jmblack>fedora ;)
10:07<pahli_bar>jmblack: try locate rfftw.h
10:07<jmblack>nada, nothing returned when I type "locate rfftw.h"
10:08<jmblack>which is the root of the evil Im thinking :p
10:08<pahli_bar>jmblack: try rpm -ql fftw-devel
10:09<jmblack>ok, lots of files listed... browsing through them I do not see rfftw.h at all...
10:10<jmblack>closest thing would be /usr/share/doc/fftw-devel-3.0.1/html/rfftwnd.png
10:10<pahli_bar>jmblack: that is funny which version of fftw do you have
10:10<jmblack>its the only file with r before fftw
10:10<pahli_bar>ah. there's the problem you need fftw 2.1.x not 3.x
10:10<jmblack>its showing 3.01
10:10<jmblack>err 3.0.1
10:10<jmblack>should I have installed the 2.xx branch?
10:11<jmblack>ahh
10:11<jmblack>k
10:17<jmblack> :) its compiling now...
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10:20<jmblack>woot, visulizations...
10:44<beetle110>where can I find information on setting up transcoding?
10:44<beetle110>I have it (kinda) working.
10:44<beetle110>but it doesn't seem to be working properly.
10:45<beetle110>the video's that get transcoded aren't very good quality(probably a setting), and they will freeze when I watch them. I can ff past the freezing point and it plays for a little while, then freezes again.
10:45<jmblack>the only information Ive seen is the small blurb in the how-to that Geoff threw together
10:46<beetle110>in the documentation?
10:46<jmblack>beetle110, Geoff has steadily been improving transcoding, are you running .13 or cvs?
10:46<jmblack>yes, the documentation on the website
10:46<beetle110>jmblack.
10:47<beetle110>I'll update cvs.
10:47<beetle110>mine was checked out last monday.
10:47<jmblack>hrm, it seems like hes released an update just afew days ago... Im not certain that the update had made it into cvs yet though....
10:47<jmblack>you may want to check the cvs commits list
10:47<beetle110>will do, thanks.
10:48<jmblack>in order to enable ALSA sound support I have to recompile mythtv correct?
10:49<beetle110>jmblack: I didn't
10:49<jmblack>does mythmusic work with ALSA support enabled?
10:49<jmblack>yeah, but its using OSS compatibility mode otherwise, iirc
10:49<beetle110>I did do that.
10:50<HenkPoley>Little question, how do you add someone to a group? (henk to video)
10:50<jmblack>if you watch mythfrontend startup it says "Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'" here... and I'd like it to use ALSA instead.. though Im kinda wondering if the other modules will freak out :)
10:51<beetle110>HenkPoley, man groupadd
10:52<jmblack>HenkPoley, what distro? in fedora (redhat) you can use Red hat User manager... cute lil GUI
10:52<beetle110>to create the groupe
10:53<beetle110>then you use -G with useradd to add the user to the group.
10:53<HenkPoley>gentoo
10:53<beetle110>example useradd beetle -G video
10:53<jmblack>My reciever (DirectTV) takes about 2 seconds to switch to the correct channel. So all my recordings have 1 or 2 seconds at the beginning where the channel is wrong
10:54<HenkPoley>the group video already exists (in /dev/v4l/* )
10:54<jmblack>is their a simple 'wait x seconds' before recording setting that Im missing?
10:55<HenkPoley>"usermod -G video henk" does the trick I think
10:57<HenkPoley>WTF? I can't login as root on an xconsole?
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11:02<Henk_Poley>needed to logout for changes (groups) to take effect
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11:06<hardwired>that's normal
11:07<Henk_Poley>Well...
11:08<Henk_Poley>I think there is some command ( much like env-update or source /etc/profile ) that would do this too
11:09<Henk_Poley>but myabe it _is_ written in rock when you are logged in
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11:14<MythMicha> /dev/hda3 / ext2 errors=remount-ro 0 1
11:14<MythMicha> /dev/hda1 none swap sw 0 0
11:14<MythMicha> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
11:14<MythMicha> /dev/fd0 /floppy auto user,noauto 0 0
11:14<MythMicha> /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
11:14<MythMicha> /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 0 2
11:14<MythMicha>oops
11:14<MythMicha>crap...
11:15<MythMicha>Sorry.... I wanted to say that if you install FLUXBOX instead of KDE, you will clear up a lot of little Myth Issues :)
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11:16<Henk_Poley>btw, I couldn't switch to root since I 'removed' myself from the wheel group
11:16<Henk_Poley>whow netsplit
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11:17<brunes_kopete>hey all.... whats the easiest way to convery a myth recording to a divx file?
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11:18<pahli_bar>brunes_kopete: read the docs
11:19<brunes_kopete>thats in the docs now?
11:19<brunes_kopete>hrmm... brb
11:19<pahli_bar>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.1
11:20<brunes_kopete>eah found it
11:20<brunes_kopete>thanks
11:25<brunes_kopete>you know what would be cool to add to mythweb? The ability to take either a file, or one of your playlists, and click "Stream" so you could stream it over shoutcast or something
11:25<Chutt>someone's asking for a kicking
11:25<brunes_kopete>oh shit the red
11:25<brunes_kopete>i keep forgetting about that
11:29<MythMicha>I thought of a kewl new feature for Myth. Or maybe it's already there... The ability to pause Live TV and save the pause as a jpg.
11:30<pahli_bar>MythMicha: code away
11:30<MythMicha>hehehehe Me?? I am still trying to figure out why my Vic-20 programs don't run... :)
11:34<thor_>Chutt, how goes the framing ?
11:39<StuartL>MythMicha: That's just screencap, though?
11:39<StuartL>MythMicha: Be more useful to have time-delay recording :)
11:39<Chutt>didn't get much done yesterday
11:39<Chutt>too much other crap to do
11:39<thor_>wood or those new metal stud thingies
11:40<MythMicha>StuartL yea, just a screen cap... :)
11:40<StuartL>MythMicha: You been watching porn again?
11:40<StuartL>:)
11:40<StuartL>Handy debug tool, actually.
11:40<StuartL>"Look what it looks like"
11:40<brunes_kopete>StuartL: Time-delay recording? what does that mean?
11:41<MythMicha>Porn?? Naaaw, I can't watch it unless the wife is there.. It's a rule :)
11:41<MythMicha>BRB
11:41<StuartL>brunes_kopete: I dunno if that's the real phrase, the one where you pause a live feed and it captures the live feed to disk. When you unpause it starts reading from a disk ring-buffer which it's also recording the TV to.
11:41<StuartL>Erm, that was an awful description.
11:41<MythMicha>But of course, the wife can watch Porn with her girlfriends any times she wants to.. Go figger.. hehehehehe
11:41<StuartL>Time-lapse.
11:41<StuartL>That's what it's called.
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11:42<brunes_kopete>StuartL: Wha? You can already do that can you not? At least,thats what happens when I hit pause..
11:42*StuartL doesn't know.
11:43*StuartL shrugs.
11:43<StuartL>Haven't got that far yet :)
11:43<StuartL>If it works then "w00t" :)
11:46<pahli_bar>Chutt: should i make opengl slideshow transitions compile-time choosable?
11:47<Chutt>please
11:47<jmblack>pahli_bar, opengl is compile time choosable in mythmusic, Id imagine doing so in the photo browser would be the nice thing to do.
11:47<pahli_bar>okey-dokey. off to reading some shell-script based configure's
11:48<jmblack>mythmusic might be the place to start, sence it also deals with opengl :)
11:48<thor_>pahli_bar, there very simple, spit out a file with a #define line or two, then have the compile code include those files, nothing to it
11:48<thor_>they're
11:49<Chutt>they don't test for lib presense or anything =)
11:49<thor_>as someone _despises_ autoconf
11:49<jmblack>hah
11:49<pahli_bar>one problem with the opengl based slideshows is that they can't be mixed with the current singleview.
11:49<pahli_bar>they have to be in a separate window altogether
11:51<jmblack>one rather small improvement Id like to see in released versions.... demo pictures / music shipped with the release so people can see that it is working before they have a chance to populate those directories.
11:51<jmblack>it would add a little shine to an already great package :)
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11:51<pahli_bar>jmblack: how long does it take someone to COPY some images/music in there
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11:52<jmblack>of course on the music side you'd have to find an open source / free ogg or mp3
11:52<thor_>pahli_bar, I was thinking about a Digital Imap Access/Transfer Protocol, and most things are easy. items (pictures) and containers (slideshow "playlists"). We would, however, need some kind of namespace or labelling methodology for transitions (and possibly accompanying audio). Just thinking out loud ...
11:52<jmblack>pahli_bar, its not a time issue ;) its a polish issue ;) assume people are dumb, and then less people will assume the program isnt working ;)
11:53<pahli_bar>jmblack: that is the problem. setting up myth is not for dumb people
11:53<jmblack>and that attitude will keep it that way for far too long ;(
11:54<eecshate>anyone know what the device for output is on my pvr250?
11:54<eecshate>anyone know what the device for output is on my pvr350?
11:55<jmblack>its in the docs iirc, I dont have a pvr350...
11:55<Chutt>there's a very nice howto for setting up the pvr-350 in the ivtv wiki.
11:55<pahli_bar>thor_: sounds like an xml kinda protocol
11:56<jmblack>isnt their an xmlish protocol already for digital media? some russian breed protocol.. I really wish I could remember the naem about now...
11:57<thor_>I dunno .... just some way for one machine to say "switch from this picture to that picture with __this__ transition" .... still plan to dig into how iPhoto does it (if iPhoto doe sin fact do it)
11:57<pahli_bar>thor_: i'm not sure iphoto has networking capability.
11:57<thor_>you can "share picutres" via Rendezvous
11:57<thor_>just not sure what that entails yet
11:58<pahli_bar>thor_: it could be something like <ss><itemlist><item>..</item>...</itemlist><music></music></ss>
11:59<rkulagow>chutt: have you had a chance to spend any cycles on the mysql CPU hogging issue?
11:59<thor_>yup, something like that .... anyway, as I say, just thinking out loud .... but while you're doing the transitions stuff, you may want to keep in mind that at some point they might need to be described over the wire
12:00<pahli_bar>thor_: no problem at all. i already have "named" slideshows and it should be very easy to access them by name.
12:00<pahli_bar>thor_: itemlist too...
12:00<thor_>:-)
12:00<pahli_bar>thor_: only thing missing is audio playback
12:01<Chutt>rkulagow, i'm about to commit a fix, actually
12:01<Chutt>just making sure it compiles
12:01<Chutt>audio playback will come with mfd =)
12:02<rkulagow>cool. i'm looking at the protocol.txt file that someone has figured out for the hauppauge MVP. at $99, it's even cheaper than an xbox... (although it'll only do mpeg-1/2, MP3 and not DivX, etc apparently)
12:03<Chutt>yeah, those looked interesting
12:03<Chutt>if i had more time for stuff, i'd get one, but =)
12:07<Chutt>rkulagow, try current CVS for the mysql fix
12:07<PhracturedBlue>Chutt, I need a way to temporarily store the keyframe map after transcoding to mpeg2 (before the backend replaces the file). I could do it with a temp file or with a new table. Any preference?
12:08<rkulagow>beautiful. click on MVP from the hauppauge home page -> 404
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12:08<Chutt>phracturedblue, doesn't matter to me
12:08<PhracturedBlue>ok. that's all I wanted to know.
12:09<rkulagow>chutt: syncing now...
12:10<rkulagow>huh. changes on the cvs server? "cannot open directory /var/lib/mythcvs/mythtv/libs/libvbitext: No such file or directory"
12:11<Chutt>just delete that from your local dir
12:11<Chutt>that changed when i redid the library stuff a week or so ago
12:11<rkulagow>ah. i think hauppauge has someone in IRC - they just fixed their 404. :)
12:11<Chutt>heh
12:12<rkulagow>hey, hauppauge: release the protocol spec for the frontend/backend on the MVP, and give tmk a non-NDA datasheet for the PVR-250/350 and fix the firmware issues.
12:12<rkulagow>there.
12:13<rkulagow>anyone have any other requests?
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12:13<sfr>no way
12:13<sfr>:)
12:14<thor_>put out a mini-ITX form factor motherboard with two 350-style encoders on the board a 350-style decoder w/ TV-out on the board as well.
12:15<jmblack>rkulagow, afaik hauppauge does not actually produce any hardware, they usually buy chips from other manufacturers.... you may want to pose those questions to conextant :)
12:15<rkulagow>thor: sure. shall i tell them that you'll be purchasing in lots of 10000?
12:16<thor_>heh, no ... 1,000,000 minimum I would think
12:16<rkulagow>jmblack: well, they can certainly fill in some of the gaps on the MVP protocol since i'm pretty sure they made the software...
12:16<Chutt>they've said they have no intention of supporting linux on the mvp
12:17<jmblack>rkulagow, maybe, I would seriously doubt it though
12:17<Chutt>or at least, i thought i read that
12:17<rkulagow>maybe i can get flextronics to make some. i remember an article in wired that talked how flextronics was the manufacturer of the original versions of the xbox...
12:17<thor_>I think flextronics makes just about everything
12:18<thor_>oh, that mb should have in-built 802.11g with fully supported Linux drivers as well :-)
12:19<thor_>s/pdiff out the back
12:19<rkulagow>also, don't forget that it needs pal / secam / ntsc
12:19<rkulagow>ac3
12:19<rkulagow>dvi
12:19<thor_>yup, yup
12:20<Chutt>all i want is a case for an epia-m that has enough room for a dvd-rom, a pvr-350, and a -250.
12:20*bdale notes that there's very little more frustrating than having your new HDTV rear-projection set arrive and get unboxed... two hours before you have to leave for the airport for a week of international business travel...
12:20<rkulagow>chutt: docs sync please.
12:20<Chutt>sure
12:21<rkulagow>thanks.
12:21<Chutt>done
12:21<bdale>while you're talking about ITX cases, anyone have a recommendation for a cheap/small box that would hold a Nehemiah board and work well as a very minimal frontend box?
12:21<Chutt>all the mini-itx cases i've seen suck.
12:21<bdale>me too
12:22<thor_>or are _really_ expensive (hush)
12:22<bdale>it's about enough to get me bending sheet metal...
12:22<bdale>I'd love to have 2-3 units of something that's just a nehemiah board, no need for drives of any type or glitz of any type, though a front-panel 2-line LCD display I can drive wouldn't suck
12:23<thor_>VFD, gotta be VFD
12:23<rkulagow>hrmm. without actually seeing it, it appears from the description of the buttons on the remote of the MVP that it's the silver one that comes with the PVR-250/350's. anyone know for sure?
12:23<bdale>I don't mind VFD, but I happen to have a big box of assorted LCD displays, so if I'm bending metal at home I'm likely to be cheap and just use them
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12:26<rkulagow>chutt: haven't seen a commit message for the mysql fix - laggy mailing list?
12:27<Chutt>apparently
12:27<rkulagow>ah, ok.
12:28<PhracturedBlue>Can someone tell me what 'MARK_GOP_BYFRAME' implies? It appears to mean that frame numbers (rather than key frame numbers) are used in recordedmarkup. yes/no?
12:28<Chutt>yup
12:28<Chutt>dvb and hdtv cards
12:29<Chutt>dropped packets and such mean that gops aren't going to be evenly sized
12:29<Chutt>so, better to go by frame number instead of by gop number for those
12:29<PhracturedBlue>yeah. well in my transcoded files, I don't gaurantee an even spacing of gop frames (due to pruning 'b' frames after a cut)
12:30<Chutt>it'd probably be a good idea to convert even pvr-250 recordings over to that
12:30<PhracturedBlue>however, I could leave the frames, and mark the gop 'broken' then the frames WOULD be evenly spaced.
12:30<Chutt>rkulagow, sendmail was hung up on some idiot running their own (misconfigured) mailserver
12:30<Chutt>phracturedblue, ah
12:31<PhracturedBlue>I guess I'll try using MARK_GOP_BYFRAME, as it is more flexible.
12:33<rkulagow>chutt: ok
12:34<rkulagow>circuit city webiste shows the MVP - it's the same silver remote as on the 250/350's.
12:35<rkulagow>why would someone spend $35 for a 4 year "protection plan" on a piece of computer hardware that costs $99?
12:36<thor_>do they offer Scotch Guard on it as well?
12:37<pahli_bar>rkulagow: thats their way of making money
12:37*pahli_bar realizes that rkulagow is being sarcastic
12:39<rkulagow>i don't think i'd do so good in retail. i was in radio shack, and the counter person convinced an older woman that she needed the $15 protection plan on a $20 trimline touch tone phone.
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12:40<pahli_bar>yeah. you have to be a real sleazeball to succeed in one of these businesses
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13:03<thor_>excellent, stan ("the man") is back ....
13:04<Chutt>you're getting mail, then?
13:04<thor_>yup
13:05<Chutt>allright
13:09<kvandivo>he's a talkative guy..
13:10<thor_>and veyr antertianing
13:11*kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee.
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13:44<eecshate>hey all
13:45<eecshate>i'm trying to setup X for myth w/ no mouse
13:45<eecshate>is this possible startx keeps dying on no input pointer detected
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14:06<eecshate>does anyone know if I need to have a mouse for xwindows in order to get mythtv to work
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14:11<thor_>http://www.xfree86.org/current/XF86Config.5.html
14:11<thor_>Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "boolean"
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14:55<mattfelsen>isaac mentioned that there will be a menu for video playback...any timeframe on that?
14:56<mattfelsen>ie, being worked on now or in the next few months or something like that?
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14:56<rkulagow>chutt: current CVS seems to have fixed the mysql CPU hog bug
14:58<rkulagow>chutt: don't know if you'
14:59<rkulagow>ve encountered this. 4 encoders, 2xmaster, 2xslave. 3 programs to record. all kick off, but encoder #3 (slave) has firmware lockup. ctrl-c the slave backend, modprobe -r ivtv, modprobe ivtv, restart slave backend. program that was scheduled on that card doesn't re-start recording.
15:00<rkulagow>the only way to record is to go livetv->record what i'm watching, but exiting live tv exits the recording as well.
15:03<eecshate>(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPAN_DISPLAY: Invalid argument i'm getting this when trying to startx
15:03<eecshate>is this a problem
15:05<Chutt>rkulagow, i think that's because the master doesn't really know that the slave was killed
15:05<Chutt>and that it was recording, and that it should invalidate the recording
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15:15<eecshate>i'm getting sound but no video output when using my 350 and 'watching tv'
15:15<eecshate>any ideas on the culprit of that?
15:15<rkulagow>chutt: i'll investigate the sequence of events some more.
15:16<eecshate>when i configure my capture card to use "S-Video0" it seg faults
15:16<eecshate>when I use "S-Video1" it has sound but no picture
15:22<eecshate>i'm getting a segfault after mythfrontend IOCTL_GET_STATE complains of an invalid argument
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15:39<mchou>anyone know if pvr-350 support playing dvds (like thru xine) via tv-out using ivtv-fb?
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15:39<Netslayer>heh my webhost got hacked, all our site's index file was replaced with "hax0rs lab - help@hax0rslab.org"
15:40<mchou>uh, that's rather alarming, isn't it?
15:40<choenig>hi mchou, sorry that I didn't replay for so long, but I had a quite hard time these days, was in hospital over new year and stuff
15:41<mchou>hi choenig: gee, sorry to hear that, what happend?!
15:41<Netslayer>it's a personal page, and i have backups..it's alarming for them heh, i only pay $1/month for 1GB anyway, of course they are more professional now heh and charge more :-P orphus.net
15:43<mchou>choenig: I hope you are ok now......
15:44<eecshate>is there any way to tell which device in the mythsetup "S-VideoN" corresponds to the argument passed in using test_ioctl -p N?
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15:49<choenig>mchou: a had a bad ache in the region of my appendix
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15:54<eecshate>does myth send the test_ioctl command?
15:54<eecshate>backend tells me that it can't read from the card each time
16:03<Chutt>eecshate, you're having problems with the ivtv driver, then, not mythtv
16:06<eecshate>chutt, well, does mythtv send the test_ioctl command?
16:06<eecshate>if I do that manually I can capture just fine
16:10<mdz>eecshate: /join #ivtv-dev?
16:10<eecshate>hah, thx
16:10<eecshate>maybe they know if myth inits the card ;)
16:15<mdz>oh, no, I guess that bit must have been overlooked
16:15<mdz>that would explain why it's working fine for quite a number of people
16:19<eecshate>mdz: well it could be automatically done by myth or it could be expected to be done during system startup. thats all i'm asking
16:21<mdz>it would be pretty weird for mythtv to ask you which input to record from, and then expect you to set the input on the card
16:22<eecshate>agreed, but when things don't work such questions are reasonable
16:26<eecshate>speaking of weird, why are there 4 svideo input options when the 250/350 has one svideo input?
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16:41<Octane>anyone else's cable company repeat channels? IE have TVLand at channel 80 and have it again at cahnnel 854
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17:06<rkulagow>chutt: here?
17:09<vagrant>is there a quick key that resizes the mythtv window up to full screen size?
17:09<Chutt>kind of
17:09<Chutt>vagrant, nope
17:10<vagrant>er.
17:11<rkulagow>chutt: you mentioned in IRC you were thinking of spawning mythfilldatabase from within myth instead of a cron job. are you still thinking that? a framework for spawning jobs without editing crontabs would be useful for crap like a "once a day, look for recordings that can't be correct, like 0 byte recordings"
17:12<rkulagow>(and would tie in with the "messages to users" syslog-type thing that someone else had mentioned.)
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17:13<Chutt>sure
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17:17<rkulagow>hrmm. just saw that vektor over on ivtv-dev told hans that MPEG-2 DVDs store subtitles as a data stream in the vbi thread. if that's true, (and i don't doubt that it is) then that reminds me that i had wanted to include show details within the NUV file in case the database gets whacked.
17:18<rkulagow>ick. that sentence barely parsed.
17:18<Chutt>heh
17:19<rkulagow>for mpeg files, is there still a full mythtv .NUV header, or are you just dumping bytes?
17:20<rkulagow>i didn't see any when i looked at the .nuv files in raw mode.
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17:20<Chutt>it's just dumping the bytes
17:21<vagrant>does mythfrontend compile cleanly under windows?
17:21<Chutt>hah
17:22<vagrant>it seems to make liberal use of qt, I'm not sure if there were any other dependencies though.
17:22<Chutt>sound display
17:22<Chutt>video display
17:25<Teflon>now initializing my 2nd myth box -- a frontend only machine.
17:25<vagrant>mythtv more or less just uses mplayer for sound and video I thought.
17:25<Teflon>ECS K7SOM+ is an incredibly cheap mobo
17:26<vagrant>doesn't it?
17:27<rkulagow>vagrant: no. that's freevo.
17:27<Teflon>mplayer is an option for the add-on video and dvd playback modules
17:28<Teflon>one of several choices
17:29<Chutt>tv is all custom.
17:29<vagrant>I see.
17:30<vagrant>is freevo a separate project or is it pretty tightly integrated?
17:30<Chutt>to mythtv?
17:30<vagrant>yes.
17:31<Chutt>it's a totally separate project
17:32<vagrant>ok.
17:32<vagrant>but otherwise, that's the only major dependency tying mythtv to a *nix/X11 environment?
17:33<Chutt>well
17:33<Chutt>recording from a tuner card
17:33<Chutt>etc
17:33<Chutt>qt 3 for windows isn't free.
17:33<vagrant>it is for non-commercial use, isn't it?
17:33<Chutt>nope
17:33<vagrant>I'm just worried about playback, not capture.
17:34<vagrant>i.e. mythfrontend compatability.
17:35<jbeimler>I use the mpg encorders so I can copy I play back elsewhere
17:35<Chutt>dsmyth.sf.net
17:36<vagrant>Chutt: what exactly is that?
17:36<vagrant>jbeimler: is that the only option though?
17:36<vagrant>jbeimler: though I haven't looked a whole lot into it, I haven't been able to transcode stuff yet.
17:37<jbeimler>I've got mpeg capture so I don't have to transcode
17:37<vagrant>I do too, but it seems to be putting it in .nuv files anyhow.
17:38<vagrant>again, I didn't look a whole lot into it.
17:39<vagrant>what do I need to do to make these files universally accessible?
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17:45<jbeimler>vagrant: use mplayer on windows
17:49<vagrant>jbeimler: that plays the .nuv files without a hitch?
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17:50<jbeimler>haven't had any trouble on the unix boxes, same code on windows, so I can't see it being an issue
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18:13<dataworm_>Hi, I would like to know more info about DVB-c decoding. My digital cable provider is videotron and I got a Explorer 2200 from scientific atlanta. Where can I find more info about if i'll be able to capure the feed with a DVB-c tuner? I am planning to buy a card but i prefer making sure it will work before spending money
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18:25<Octane>i love mythtv, i love mythtv, i love mythtv, i love mythtv
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18:31<Octane>dataworm_ someone recently posted a DVB howto on the mailing list
18:31<Octane>search the archives
18:33<dataworm_>Octane : cool... I will... I read aloth of DVB stuff alwready but just did't found any info on my provider
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19:37<return0>hey folks.
19:39<return0>I'm tryin' to set up the tv tuner and alsa sound but I'm having problems
19:40<return0>for alsa sound I don't know what the deal is or if it's even alsa that has the problem but the sound only plays a small sample and repeats it
19:40<return0>the alsa mixer works though
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19:50<DJ_Rican>ok.. what tables do i have to drop in order to recreate the program guide? i've done channels and program
19:50<return0>tuner worls :P it was "TV/VCR" that had me confused.
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20:12<CaptBubba>I'm not sure which is more frustrating, getting only half of something working flawlessly, or getting nothing to work
20:14<pmowry>I can live with nothing, getting that last 30% is an exponential growth in the urge to buy explosives
20:15<CaptBubba>or sepnd a lot of money on new hardware
20:15<CaptBubba>but explosives would be nice
20:16<SuperID>I hear ya
20:16<SuperID>I spent about a month getting my myth box running
20:16<SuperID>running....not flawlessly...just running
20:16<SuperID>in fact my kids just yelled up "dad! it died again!"
20:16<billytwowilly>SuperID: I spent about thirty minutes getting mine running flawlessly. God bless knoppmyth
20:16<pmowry>hehe
20:17<billytwowilly>I've had it on and recording for about a month now with no issues.
20:17<CaptBubba>Well, I've gotten everything to work flawlessly so far, live TV works dandy, pausing live tv works great, recording sound is wonderful, but it only records a blue screen, which is bad
20:17<SuperID>well I started with a completely unsupported asus card, bought a Wintv 250 and found out that my flavor of 250 was not supported by ivtv
20:17<SuperID>then I had to swap motherboards because the crappy pcchips motherboard would not see the wintv....
20:17<CaptBubba>why would livetv recording work, but not sceduled recording, it makes no sense
20:17<billytwowilly>unfortunately I'm still using 0.12 because the knoppmyth guys ran into problems with upgrading via debs.. and I'm too buzy with school to do figure out how to upgrade when the system already works great.
20:18<SuperID>I got the ivtv team to support my pci subsystem IDs and I'm mostly on my way
20:18<billytwowilly>there are flavours of pvr-250?
20:18<pmowry>hmmm, got me on that one.
20:18<billytwowilly>That's good to know.
20:18<SuperID>billy: yes there are at least 3 different
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20:18<CaptBubba>I just love how hardware vendors like to change things up, keeps you on your toes
20:18<billytwowilly>That's really good to know. Thanks. I was looking at buying one sometime in the next six months.
20:19<SuperID>kudos to the ivtv team, they turned around support for the new subsystem ids in about 4 hours
20:19<billytwowilly>That's a nice tidbit of info.
20:19<SuperID>it's an awesome card
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20:19<billytwowilly>so they are all supported once again?
20:19<billytwowilly>Yah, my ati tv wonder is on its last legs..
20:19<SuperID>as far as I know yes.
20:19<CaptBubba>does anyone have any clue why mythtv doesn't want to record video? Besides my computer hating me, of course
20:19<billytwowilly>as it ages the picture gets fuzzier and fuzzier. it's almost at the level where my tolerance gives out on some channels;)
20:19<SuperID>capt: you can watch live tv fine?
20:20<CaptBubba>yes, and pause, skip ahead and back
20:20<CaptBubba>both with the default codec and mpeg4
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20:20<billytwowilly>are you recording with the same setting as livetv?
20:20<CaptBubba>I think so, let me check
20:20<billytwowilly>if you changed the settings for livetv but record with the default settings you might have probs..
20:21<pmowry>CaptBubba: yeah, Was about to ask about your profiles. What card are you using?
20:21<SuperID>I'm not sure, but does livetv spool to the disk in the same loc as recorded video? I've seem some setups that point to /mnt/store and others /var/lib/mythtv
20:21<SuperID>check the rights on both
20:21<billytwowilly>I know I spent a couple weeks trying to track down why I was getting 3.2 GB/hour recordings when my livetv settings should only give about a gig/hour.
20:22<CaptBubba>tview99 (bt878 based with a philips tuner), Geforce2 GTS with latest drivers, fortemedia soundcard, all on a brand spanking new gentoo intallation
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20:23<CaptBubba>I just started recording using the LiveTV setings, and am still getting a blue screen
20:24<CaptBubba>oh, and mythtv 0.12
20:24<billytwowilly>you did a fresh install but you didn't use latest mythtv?
20:25<CaptBubba>latest was masked by portage, but I could try upgrading. Would I have to redo all my settings?
20:25<billytwowilly>I don't know.
20:25<billytwowilly>But that might solve your problem.
20:25<CaptBubba>let me give it a shot
20:26<billytwowilly>slim chance it will anyway;)
20:26<billytwowilly>if you can watch livetv it probably isn't a problem with drivers.
20:26<CaptBubba>yeah, knowing my luck it will break everything
20:27<billytwowilly>that's quite possible.. you can always just give up and download knoppmyth like I did;)
20:27<CaptBubba>but I like gentoo...
20:28<CaptBubba>last time I tried freevo, that was an astonishing failure
20:28<billytwowilly>That's fine. I'm just advocating another option;) Linux is all about choice;)
20:28<pmowry>I've been a CVS junky since pre 12 since I'm using a PVR 350.
20:29<Octane>lol 'cvs junky'
20:29<pmowry>I dont remember any commits about bt changes in a long time.
20:29<CaptBubba>right now I'm compiling .13-r1
20:29<billytwowilly>freevo=crappy compared to mythtv, but decent compared to windowsxp media center edition;)
20:29<CaptBubba>like that's something to brag about
20:29<Octane>anyone here have success with nuvexport and divx?
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20:33<pmowry>Sorry, nevet used it, just installed it though
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20:37<pmowry>Octane: What do I need for DivX support?
20:39<pmowry>This might take a while, dont have ffmpeg, lame, or anything else installed nuvexport wants
20:40<Octane>pmowry: ffmpeg
20:40<Octane>and nuvexport
20:40<pmowry>and I dont use alsa... so ffmpeg has the DivX codec?
20:48<Octane>yes
20:52<Teflon>man it takes forever to upgrade from 3.0 woody to unstable.
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20:53<_beetle_>is it required for a mythtv frontend to have a tuner card?
20:54<pmowry>no, just that backend server(s).
20:54<CaptBubba>well, finished doing that, now I have to wait until 9:00 rolls around
20:55<CaptBubba>see if it actually works
20:56<pmowry>RPM ?: how do you unistall a RPM?
20:58<CaptBubba>arrrrg, it is doing the exact same thing
20:59<CaptBubba>CPU is maxed out, but it is only writing ~70KB/sec to disk
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21:00<newtroot>question: i have a PVR 350 and was wondering about the tv out feature. will i be able to display the different on screen menu's and information using the out on the 350 or do i need regular video card with tv out?
21:01<jbeimler>newtroot: 350 will do it all supposedly
21:02<newtroot>thanks. i have seen some information on tv-out on the pvr 350, and i have it working, but no OSD. and of course when i start myth it runs on my monitor, not tv.
21:03<jbeimler>there appears to be an X driver. someday when I can afford a 350, I hope to give it a try
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21:04<CaptBubba>grumble
21:04<newtroot>interesting. i will see if i can locate this mystical "x driver"
21:04<CaptBubba>this is the strangest problem I've seen. I know it works, but it is tuanting me
21:05<jbeimler>newtroot: #ivtv-dev is the place to ask
21:06<newtroot>thanks.
21:09<pmowry>mewtroot: ivtv_fb, its in CVS for ivtv.
21:09<pmowry>Instructions on setting up X are in the source fi,e
21:15<pmowry>Octane: I've got it installed, but no recordings, minor oversite... I'll give it a try in about 90 minutes.
21:16<newtroot>pmowry: thanks.
21:17<_beetle_>is the directory that is supposed to be $QTDIR the directory that contains mkspecs?
21:19<_beetle_>ie if I do an ls $QTDIR should I see mkspecs listed?
21:19<CaptBubba>I think I've figured it out!
21:21<CaptBubba>I seem to have misplaed my svideo cable, hmmm
21:22<CaptBubba>how do you delete video sources out of the mythsetup?
21:23<CaptBubba>wait, I think I got it
21:26<CaptBubba>no, I don't
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21:27<_beetle_>nevermind, answered my own question.
21:30<_beetle_>what libraries are needed to transcode shows I capture to divx, or xvid?
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21:32<CaptBubba>wouldn't it be great if xmltv somehow was actually fast?
21:33<Netslayer>it is at around 12pm pst :-)
21:34<Netslayer>unless u all grab it at that time
21:34*Netslayer means 12am
21:34<Netslayer>anyone know what error this is "xmltv returned error code 256"
21:35<CaptBubba>um, that there are errors 0-255 that you are lucky you didn't get?
21:36<CaptBubba>what was it doing when it did that?
21:37<pmowry>CaptBubba: press M to bring up a menu to delete a video source, but I'm sure you found it already.
21:37<Netslayer>system status is reporting that
21:37<Netslayer>it works fine when i run it manually, but my cron must be bugging me
21:38<pmowry>Netslayer: Mine says that to, even when I manually run mythfill and it completes fine.
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21:38<pmowry>My cron's not working either, been to lazy to figure out why.
21:38<Netslayer>heh
21:39<pmowry>I'm assuming it's a missing path or somthing in the shell cron runs as.
21:40<Netslayer>this is what i use:
21:41<Netslayer>#!/bin/bash
21:41<Netslayer>export PATH=$PATH:/root/.mythtv
21:41<Netslayer>export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3
21:41<Netslayer>export HOME=/root
21:41<Netslayer>.. /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase --update >> /var/log/mythtv/dbfill.log 2>&1
21:41<Netslayer>exclude ..
21:42<Netslayer>think it's working now, good
21:42<Netslayer>wow that's slow!
21:43<CaptBubba>I GOT IT TO WORK
21:43<CaptBubba>Oh happy day
21:46<CaptBubba>now I don't have to stay up till ungodly hours to watch adult swim
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21:46<Netslayer>err trying to setup cidbcast and it says my modem doesn't work..does so
21:46<Netslayer>heh
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21:51<Netslayer>is mythvideo's video manager imdb lookup broken?
21:52<ShockValue>it seems so.,. mine doesnt work either
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22:01<Octane>is there a way to stop a recording right now?
22:01<Octane>should i stop mythbackend service?
22:02<CaptBubba>you mean one that is happened at the moment?
22:02<Octane>yes my recording is set to stop at 10:05
22:02<Octane>but i want it to stop now
22:02<CaptBubba>you can delete it like a saved recording and it will stop recording
22:02<CaptBubba>well, nm
22:02<pmowry>If you goto the progrram guide and change it to not record it will stop. Dont know about a hot key or anything
22:05<ShockValue>anyone know how to fix my "Browse Videos" section starting at PL=0 (when there is technically no such thing?)
22:05<Octane>stopping mythbackend didnt work hehe
22:05<Octane>ShockValue go edit the value in the settings table
22:05<Octane>make sure its 1
22:06<Octane>i forgot the fieldname
22:06<ShockValue>yeah... thats mysql voodoo right? ;)
22:10<rkulagow>thor: you here?
22:10<thor_>yup
22:10<Chutt>hit 'm' on the watch recordings screen, select 'stop recording'
22:11<rkulagow>mythdvd/README-database is superfluous, isn't it?
22:11<thor_>yup
22:11<thor_>ah
22:11<thor_>one sec
22:12<thor_>no ... it should probably still be there
22:12<rkulagow>where's metadata.sql?
22:12<thor_>reference to metadata-sql should go
22:12<rkulagow>ah
22:12<rkulagow>see? fingers aren't as frozen today.
22:13<thor_>heh
22:13<thor_>that README should be saying that it's possible to create new tanscode options just by altering the database
22:13<thor_>let me change it a bit and commit
22:13<rkulagow>cool.
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22:15<Netslayer>anyone get that cidbcast to work?
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22:21<rkulagow>when i whacked the contributors section it got me to thinking about all of the people that have contributed stuff. i know mdz was already around when i started...
22:21<rkulagow>ah, cvs commit log, so many memories...
22:22<thor_>heh
22:23<rkulagow>chutt: any reason why gossamer-threads doesn't have an archive of -commit?
22:24<thor_>there is this: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/
22:26<thor_>Aug 9, 2002 .... hee hee
22:27<newtroot>well crap. what's the command to configure the myth backend?
22:28<thor_>mythsetup and/or setup
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22:28<newtroot>thanks. brain fart.
22:28<rkulagow>newtroot: are you using the standard tarball, or an RPM
22:28<newtroot>that was it. i was thinking it was mythbackendsetup.
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22:31<newtroot>if i have lirc compiled and installed should the remote just magically work in myth or do i need to configure it?
22:31<rkulagow>yeesh! "Have one of our authorized professional installers come out to your house and professionally install and set up your TiVo Series2 DVR. Professional Installation is NOT REQUIRED. $129.99"
22:31<Octane>depends if youre using irxevent or native lirc
22:32<newtroot>ummm...native lirc? i believe.
22:32<Octane>then after you have configured your lircrc yes it should "magically" work :)
22:32<Octane>did you compile mythtv with native lirc?
22:32<newtroot>haha. okay. yes, i just recompiled +lirc
22:32<Octane>than yah
22:32<Octane>check out the howto
22:32<Octane>in the last section
22:33<Octane>then look at jarod's guide to see how to use mplayer's native lirc
22:33<newtroot>will do. thanks.
22:33<Octane>np
22:33<newtroot>right now i realized i had the lirc stuff commented out in my modules.d/ivtv
22:34<Octane>i dont recall having to edit anything in there to get lirc workin
22:34<newtroot>i think it has to do with my pvr350.
22:34<newtroot>that's the ir remote i am using.
22:34<Octane>ohh 350, dunno about them
22:36<newtroot>after making changes to my modules.autoload how can i make the changes take effect without rebooting?
22:36<Octane>rmmod and modprobe?
22:36<newtroot>i dont think that will do it. at least, it didn't last time. and i have already depmod-a
22:40<Octane>you scared to mess things up if you reboot?
22:40<newtroot>no. but i currently have myth running on my server. it means losing net for 1 minute :-)
22:40<pmowry>newtroot: fir native lirc in mythtv, uncomment the lines int mythtv.pro, you should not have to edit any other files.
22:41<pmowry>nevermind, me reading is as good as my typing
22:42<newtroot>hmm. i may still need to uncomment those lines.
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22:43<newtroot>well, guess i will reboot my server. brb.
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22:45<pmowry>Octane: I I need a few extrras since I use a PVR, so my nuvexport resoults may not help you
22:45<pmowry>"You need tcprobe (transcode) or mpgtx to use this script on mpeg-based nuv files"
22:45<Octane>pmowry: nuvexport is being mean to me
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22:46<Octane>im gonan try xvid
22:48<PeteCool>Would a nfs file server running on a P200MMX over 802.11b be able to be reliable and fast enough to hold MPEG-4 (<2500 kbps scaled, 352x480) recordings, while playing back another? It seems ok for livetv when mounted async, but I'd like to know if anybody tried using this in his/her setup
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22:50<Teflon>PeteCool, it really all depends if you have a good ide controller and dma controller.
22:51<Teflon>pio isn't good enough.
22:51<newtroot>well, it looks like lirc didn't compile in i2c support. anyone know anything about the new lirc? i thought it was suppose to have i2c support by default without being patched.
22:52<pmowry>Octane: What kind of problems were you having with nuvexport? Its converting now, but I'm on a slow machine (P3-500)
22:53<pmowry>I just took the deafults on everything
22:53<Octane>pmowry: the default quality was terrible
22:53<Octane>and the audio and video were like out of sync by a minute
22:54<DJ_Rican>when i try to rip a dvd, myth comes backs and says..No jobs and nothing else to do... i recently re-created my database...
22:56<DJ_Rican>what could be wrong?
22:57<pmowry>hmm, why do I have mythtranscode running...My show just finished so it should only be scanning for commercials. I'm at 100%CPU and so far its only written 4Mb of a DivX of a 1Hr show.
22:58<pmowry>so Octane: Guess I'll let you know how it looks thursday.
22:58<Octane>dax-`[^_^]: im doing xvid now
22:58<pmowry>dja:Sorry , never tried to rip.
22:59<Octane>i mean:
22:59<Octane>pmowry: im doing xvid now
22:59<Octane>autocomplete from another network
23:00<pmowry>NP, I undeerstood.
23:01<pmowry>HOw do I list the transcode table, or How do I tell why transcode is rnning?
23:03<pmowry>Nevermind, nuvexport is using it. Transcode is writing to a file, as ffmpeg reads it.
23:04<kvandivo>ohh.. isn't isaac feeling a bit cynical tonight... :)
23:05<thor_>framing can really take it out of you ... doesn't tend to leave one in a mood to suffer fools gladly
23:05<Netslayer>ya
23:06<thor_>DJ_Rican, what's the mtd log say ?
23:09<media_>20:54:33: Error: DVDPerfectThread could not open output file: /var/lib/mythvideo/WANDAFISHFF_001of
23:09<media_>20:54:35: job failed: job dvd 1 1 0 0 -1 /var/lib/mythvideo/WANDAFISHFF
23:09<media_>20:55:07: a client socket has been closed
23:09<media_>thta's what mtd log says
23:09<media_>it's supposed to save to /home/media/dvd
23:10<thor_>Setup -> mythdvd --> ....
23:10<pmowry>hehe, nuvexporrt is mov 5 minutes into an hour show. Thursday was an exaguration, Maybe Tuesday.
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23:11<DJ_Rican>Setup -> mythdvd --> says /home/media/dvd
23:11<thor_>that seems odd
23:11<thor_>one sec ...
23:11<DJ_Rican>yeah i know... let me restart everything again
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23:13<DJ_Rican>thor_: i forgot, the DB has to be restarted whenever changes are made to dvd setup..
23:13<DJ_Rican>=)
23:14<DJ_Rican>well... the backend... working now...
23:15<thor_>Settings --> Video --> General --> Directory that holds videos ?
23:16<Chutt>aww, did i hurt octane's widdle feewings?
23:16<Octane>Chutt: many times over, i just smashed my mythbox
23:16<Chutt>grow up
23:16<Chutt>and stop wasting my time.
23:17<Chutt>the whole point of the discussion was to _keep_ compatibility with older versions of xmame
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23:18<Octane>yup; i realize that now
23:18<Netslayer>how's CVS tonight?
23:18<Chutt>better than last night
23:18<Octane>72 degrees, clear
23:18<thor_>but not as good as tommorrow
23:18<Netslayer>seriously or are u being sarcastic :-P
23:18<Netslayer>oh boy heh
23:19<SuperID>anyone ever have the problem of mythbackend crashing when you try to delete a recorded show?
23:19<Netslayer>well ya never know you guys are doing a lot of work
23:19<Chutt>get on the cvs commits list
23:19<Chutt>and you'll know what's changed
23:19<Netslayer>ohya i read that all the time, just don't know if something has gotten more buggy with new fixes/features
23:20<Chutt>if something breaks, it's generally asked about pretty quickly on the -dev list =)
23:21<Netslayer>actually i had a weird problem yesterday twice, basicaly the master backend machine just stopped accepting connections, the remote slave, local frontend and everything else trying to get to that machine would fail.
23:21<Netslayer>any ideas what area I should look into for something like that? it's not mysql, cause ssh couldn't even find the comp
23:22<Chutt>blinking lights on the keyboard?
23:22<Netslayer>nope it was still there
23:22<Netslayer>i could move the mouse, etc..when it happens again i'll try to fiddle to see if i can figure it out just hard to read console on my tv
23:24<Netslayer>any of u guys get a digital out working using ALSA? I hear it's as simple 'ussually' as enabling/unmuting it in alsamixer and connecting a cable
23:28<thor_>s/pdif digital out was hopeless on my SB Live (emu10k1) with oss, worked like a snap under alsa
23:29<Netslayer>what did u do i'm running emu10k1 with an audigy
23:30<Netslayer>just plug in a cable say mono out of a 1/8 stereo y adapter, then unmute it in alsamixer? then add some mplayer -ao alsa9:spdif and ac3 checkmark in myth general settings?
23:32<thor_>1/8th to RCA adapter (bought a while ago, but I think the package said s/pdif adapter on it), then the mixer ... I get everything going through the sound card as PCM digital to the receiver
23:33<thor_>and ac3 if I futz with mplayer command lines
23:34<Netslayer>i'm going to give it a try again, testing with like mplayer mp3file -ao alsa9:spdif sounds like a good idea right?
23:34<thor_>just do everything exactly like they tell you to: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Soundblaster+Live&chip=EMU10K1&module=emu10k1
23:35<DJ_Rican>anyone here has had problems with a big HD reporting less when mounted?
23:35<Netslayer>cool
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23:38<cbreen>anyone here build an IR blaster? any tips or tricks?
23:38<Misirlou>DJ_Rican: How much less?
23:39<DJ_Rican>Mis: i lot less... i have a 120GB showing as 3GB
23:39<Misirlou>heh
23:40<cmorgan>cbreen: yes. build the advanced one by enrique vidal or whatever
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23:56<Netslayer>cbreen, i agree i've built two, have a couple tips
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23:57<Netslayer>get a good IR Receiver, or else u will be in trouble, radio shack stocks em, 38khz or whatever, it's worth the extra 2 bucks trust me
23:57<Netslayer>and for that a good voltage regulator chip, all the rest can be generic
23:58<Netslayer>2760640, 2761770 radio shack numbers for both of those
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