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---Logopened Fri Jul 02 00:00:21 2004
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10:08RevGreb omg cum
10:08RevGreb Chutt: you around by any chance?
10:09RevGreb Chutt: EFF is calling for developers to help out with mythtv :) see if that stirs up interest
10:09RevGreb http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/eff-fights-broadcast-flag-with-mythtv-017148.php <- has blurb and link to EFF site
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10:59Chutt they emailed me a few days ago
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15:36cthompson is there a tour of the source somewhere? I'd like to tweak the source in frontend that pops up the epg
15:36cthompson but I'm not sure where to start
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16:19jkary hello
16:26niqo hi
16:28jkary Anyone have insight into using GDB and debugging MYTHFRONTEND?
16:29jkary When I startup mythfrontend it seems to take over X which limits my ability to debug. I suppose I could debug in the command shell....
16:39niqo what do you mean by take over x? you'd always run gdb in a terminal, unless you use a frontend program for it..
16:46niqo do you mean like, fullscreen? there is options for that under setup/appearance (gui width/height/offset x/y and show in window, which should really be named show window frame :)
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18:35Niqo Snow-Man. u never got around to cutting down on the mail roundtrip stuff we talked about a while back?
18:37Snow-Man erm, I don't remember.
18:37* Snow-Man shrugs.
18:37Snow-Man Quit posting shit
18:37Snow-Man :)
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18:38Niqo hmm, yeah sure :)
18:39Niqo you talked about some optimizations on the sending side of the maillist server..don't remember the facts either, except for the fact that I was very confused when you talked about it :)
18:40Niqo queueing when it was not busy or something...
18:40Niqo ?
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18:44* Snow-Man shrugs.
18:45Snow-Man How long is it taking?
18:45Niqo Chutt, I'm thinking about the MythProto calls, could I convert 'em all, or should we take it one by one, hmm?
18:45Niqo ~20 round trip
18:45Snow-Man That's not that bad.
18:46Niqo minutes?
18:46Snow-Man That's not that bad. :P
18:46Niqo that's horrible
18:46Niqo :p
18:46Snow-Man pffft.
18:46Niqo hrm
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18:51* Niqo wonders what snow-mans servers are doing in their idle time, nuclear research, timetravel?
18:52Niqo ahh well, i cc anyone i reply to now, so proplem solved...
18:53Niqo problem at least
18:53* Niqo tried gnome the other day, uhhhhhhh, hated it...
18:54* Niqo is bored...
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18:55Snow-Man idle time?
18:55Snow-Man What idle time?
18:56Snow-Man The (one) box the lists are running on isn't exactly a fast box. :)
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18:56Niqo what specs?
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18:56Servo888 hello! Ok I got a Q!
18:57Servo888 sort of... Do you guys think 802.11b (running at full speed) will be able to handle standard video stream from the mythtv backend?
18:57Snow-Man Hmm, 1.7ghz celeron, 512M, 50G or so.
18:57Snow-Man Currnet LA of 2.0 or so.
18:57Niqo servo, not mpeg2, nuppelvideo maybe
18:57Snow-Man Most of that being mail processing, of course.
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18:58Snow-Man 2,744 messages in the main queue.
18:59Snow-Man 2,871 in the hourly queue.
18:59Servo888 Niqo: hmm thanks... I'm think I might just use ethernet then... =\
19:00Niqo wow, that is a lot of mail...
19:00Servo888 thinking*
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19:00Snow-Man Uhm.
19:00Snow-Man Do you have any idea how much mail goes through that system? :)
19:00Niqo maybe we could pull some mythtv heads to sponsor you a faster 478 if you put up a paypal or something similar
19:01Niqo :)
19:01Snow-Man bah, depend on contributions?
19:01Snow-Man Sounds like a bad idea. :)
19:01Snow-Man I think it's something like 200, 600, 500 users on commits, users, devel
19:02Snow-Man With like 10, 100, 70 or something messages per day on each.
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19:02Snow-Man 2000, 60000, 35000 or near 100k/day, I believe.
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19:03Niqo i'd be willing to at least put in a 1/10 on a 3.2 which goes at about 230$ here...
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19:04Niqo or would you need a new board as well?
19:04Niqo memory overload?...
19:05Niqo servo, maybe 54mbit would suit you, won't work well for multiple frontends though...
19:06* Niqo belives that a notice on the mythtv.org frontpage would give snow-man some new hardware
19:09* Niqo wonders how Isaac pays for all that bandwidth and stuff, it must cost him, as he has been up on that domain for what? 2 years?
19:10Niqo or is that dirt cheap over the pond?
19:10Niqo ahh well, talking to myself again...
19:13Niqo hey, snow-man, i could mail you my 2xAthlon MP 2.4, nooot! :)
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19:16Niqo Snow-Man: Is the server that is hosting the mythtv lists hosting other lists as well?
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19:23Niqo live with it!
19:24Niqo i'll shut up now
19:24Niqo as i'm talking to nobody, obviously
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19:24Niqo clear
19:24Niqo ups
19:36Niqo Hrm, MythMusic has a very destructive tapping sound on song change...
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19:40Niqo hey Captain! :) (beaware, Niqo is bored tonight.. :)
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19:42Niqo got 11'nd
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19:44Niqo actually, that tap is not on every song change...let me figure this out...if i can...
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19:45Niqo hmm, it's only appearing when a loud sample is preceding the song change..
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19:49Niqo so the answer mst be fade, but i dunno how to do that...
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19:57Chutt snowman, your numbers are a tad off
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19:57Chutt 300k messages sent yesterday
19:59Chutt total of 500k so far this month..
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20:33Snow-Man Chutt: Geez. :)
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20:50_infrared yo yo
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21:23GeckoFiend chutt arround?
21:25Chutt nope
21:28_infrared off the top of your head, is there any reason why my channel jumping patch wouldn't be applied to cvs? should i change anything around?
21:28_infrared (for epg)
21:29GeckoFiend chutt: is NUMPROGRAMLINES really the count or is it somehting like count +1?
21:33GeckoFiend bleh never mind. I had two seperate issues that were both related to some changes I made today.
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21:45Chutt clyde stubbs is funny
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23:09GeckoFiend you see that mythfilldatabase bugfix from Aafloy? I know jack about mythfilldatabase but it looks reasonable
23:10Chutt i'm going to do patches right now
23:10Chutt then see about finishing up the bugzilla crap
23:11Chutt had a fun day taping drywall
23:12GeckoFiend heh I got to help the wife with a yardsale today :/
23:27Chutt - QString firstchar = artist.left(1).upper();
23:27Chutt + QString firstchar = artist_sort.upper().left(1);
23:27Chutt hrmph
23:28Chutt i shouldn't have to fix stupid shit like that
23:36Chutt actually, screw this
23:36Chutt this functionality could be implemented in 20 loc
23:36Chutt not 600
23:39Chutt now, question is, should _i_ do the rework, or get this guy to do it
23:40* Snow-Man wonders wtf the difference is there.
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23:46Chutt snow-man, i don't have to test it if he does it
23:47Snow-Man I suppose that's true.
---Logclosed Sat Jul 03 00:00:34 2004