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#mythtv IRC Logs for 2004-09-24

---Logopened Fri Sep 24 00:00:11 2004
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00:56Chutt This might seem like a crazy idea, but we would be very interested in
00:56Chutt advertising our products on the mythtv website.
00:56Chutt from the ceo of snapstream
00:56Chutt heh
00:56mikegrb haha
00:58Chutt 'I'm sorry, but I would be doing a disservice to my users to advertise for such an inferior product.'
00:58Chutt i'll just ignore the email :p
00:59mikegrb I like that reply
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01:14dopester [mythtv] mythtv developer(s) working on/with DVB-T? <--- thats not vague is it?
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05:33DonLKSAB Anyone know how i can see what i have installed with apt-get?
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07:53defy has anyone here setup a pvr 250 under debian ?
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14:13defy what do you guys think the best linux distro is to use for mythtv and a pvr 250?
14:14Roots^ http://mysettopbox.tv/
14:14* Beirdo_ glances at the topic... nope, wrong channel
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14:19defy :)
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14:56tvgids-telin-| GOOD evening
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15:14Netslayer good morning
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15:18tvgids-telin-| good evening
15:19tvgids-telin-| 21h15 here
15:34tvgids-telin-| Good morning/evening whatever
15:41Netslayer where in the DB can i change the commercial flag options on a recording? user channel isn't much help
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18:01splat1 nn all
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21:57dopester kennth you out there?
22:07riksta yo taylor
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22:12dopester heya rik
22:14riksta hows you mate
22:16dopester good
22:16dopester u?
22:17dopester well one of my linux boxes crapped out so i got limping along now.. but i am pretty much forced to upgrade it now :(
22:18riksta well, my linux box is about to crap out too
22:18riksta the hard disk is so mashed
22:18riksta i've kicked it too many times by accident
22:18riksta im lazy and leave the case open
22:18riksta it keeps just spinning down and clicking and stuff
22:18riksta andi get the odd hard lock if i bang the case
22:18riksta so its gonna die real soon
22:18dopester oh this one shut itslef down this morning
22:19dopester and the superblock of the software raid1 was corrupted so it wouldnt mount
22:19riksta ahh thats a bitch, raid is so delicate
22:19dopester but one of the discs mounted OK as ext2 so its limping along
22:19dopester it was running on 2 2.5gb drives :)
22:20riksta haha, bit shitty :P
22:21dopester yeah p2-300 used only as a router :)
22:22Beirdo 2.5G drives? Ouch
22:27dopester yeah but it was a nice router while it lasted :)
22:27dopester i think i got 600mb on that box
22:28Beirdo I think you'll be upgrading by an order of magnitude now :)
22:30dopester yeah thats for sure.. trying to see if i can do sata raid on linux
22:30dopester not looking good though :(
22:30Beirdo you can with the 3ware cards.
22:30Beirdo not cheap
22:31cmorgan ehh, just use software raid
22:31cmorgan hardware raid is overrated ;-)
22:31dopester well the bios on some of the xpc cases i am looking at do raid (but its bios software)
22:31dopester i had software raid setup on the 2.5gbs cause i didnt trust one individually..
22:31dopester just wanted to see if i could do it without the whole bios crap thing.. oh well..
22:32dopester i mean software /dev/md0 stuff again
22:32Beirdo hardware raid is nice. Keeps the system overhead down. Too bad it's not cheap :)
22:33cmorgan other than the bus traffic which is usually quite low compared to something like agp, there isn't a huge reason to use hardware raid
22:33cmorgan its VERY expensive
22:33dopester im talking about the bios sata raid you can get in an xpc box for 200 bucks
22:33dopester ich5, via etc..
22:33Beirdo yup
22:34Beirdo I think many of them are starting to get supported
22:34cmorgan i thought that bios raid was software raid?
22:35dopester yeah but it looks like you gotta install this crazy package to use a 2.6 kernel
22:35dopester that seems strongly geared twoard redhat
22:35dopester dmraid
22:36Beirdo the BIOS stuff is software assisted, I think
22:36Beirdo but the chip does the XOR or something
22:36Beirdo I can't remember anymore :)
22:37cmorgan ehh
22:37Beirdo I can't remember anything anymore it seems :)
22:38dopester hrmm.. looks like the uber cheap via xpc with sata raid is out unless i want to run redhat or suse
22:39* Beirdo chokes down the distro-war comment
22:39Beirdo sucks when they only come out for a couple distros
22:39riksta dopester, cant you just rpm2tgz it?
22:39Beirdo makes life more difficult
22:41dopester i bet i can make it work
22:42* Beirdo hands dopester the shoe-horn and the duct tape
22:42riksta dopester is your code nearly at patch level
22:52dopester looking like a week now or so
22:53dopester i didnt get crap done the last 2 days cause i was outta town for work
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22:54Beirdo do any of you know who an MJPEG capture card user may be? I may need their help soon for my nuv2avi testing
22:55dopester i can dust off my wintv pci from like 95.. hehe
22:55Beirdo is it MJPEG?
22:56Beirdo I bought a G400-TV and got screwed, no cable to connect the card to the breakout box
22:56dopester i dunno.. i used it with xawtv about 2-3 years ago
22:56Beirdo I think that one's bttv
22:56dopester oh yeah this card is probbably pre-mjpeg
22:57riksta nuv2disc looks nice
22:57dopester well that via driver wont compile under 2.6
22:58Beirdo I guess I'll just keep looking :)
22:58dopester does nuv2disc do to dvdr?
22:59riksta yep
22:59Captain_Murdo| Beirdo, what does the connector look like? Is that the same breakout box as the G200?
22:59dopester you got plans for a module you could load on the fe?
22:59Beirdo Captain_Murdoch: AFAIK it is, yes
22:59riksta dopester was that directed at me
23:00riksta it's already a fe
23:00Beirdo 25pin HD-Dsub
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23:00Beirdo like a wider VGA connector
23:00dopester well boy im payin attention tonite
23:00dopester bierdo: is it dvi?
23:00Beirdo no
23:00Captain_Murdo| 3-rows and size of a joystick port?
23:00Beirdo it's Captain_Murdoch
23:00Beirdo doh
23:00Beirdo Captain_Murdoch: sorry. Yes, that sound's right
23:01Beirdo sounds
23:01Beirdo my brain sucks tonight it seems
23:02Beirdo You wouldn't happen to have a spare kicking around or something would ya?;)
23:02Captain_Murdo| hmm... wonder if it's the same one I've got. I have a G200TV sitting here that's dead. bought it online for $15-20 bucks almost 2 years ago when I started using Myth and it was DOA but there was an AS-IS policy.
23:02Beirdo the end that connects to the card has line in/line out 1/8" plugs too
23:02riksta don't you have a shop like "maplin" where you live?
23:02riksta electronics place, they should do stuff like that
23:02Beirdo Captain_Murdoch: ooooh. I'd be interested in getting that from you
23:02Captain_Murdo| Beirdo, so you have the cable?
23:02Beirdo riksta: it's a custom cable
23:03Beirdo no, I have everything BUT the cable
23:03riksta ah
23:03Beirdo which makes the card useless for capture :)
23:03Beirdo even a DOA card with the correct cable would be useful :)
23:04Captain_Murdo| so the cable is the same on both ends (except one male, one female, and the end by the card is supposed to have the two 1/8" stereo plugs right?
23:04Beirdo yes
23:04Beirdo precisely
23:04Beirdo the end at the card is male
23:04Captain_Murdo| yeah.
23:09riksta and after all this, Murdoch is going to say, sorry i need it you can't have it :)
23:10Beirdo heh
23:10Beirdo if the card's DOA, I doubt he does
23:11riksta what's doa
23:12Beirdo dead on arrival
23:24Geck0Fiend chutt around?
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23:30dopester man this sata-raid linux thing seems like a pipedream.. seems i might be lucky just to get sata raid to work without a huge hassle..
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23:54Beirdo or buying a $600 card
23:55Chutt geckofiend, kinda
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