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---Logopened Thu Oct 14 00:00:56 2004
00:01mikegrb then drop it!
00:01mikegrb see now they know it is just idle threats
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00:18Chutt heh
00:18Chutt doh
00:19Chutt geckofiend, sorry =)
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00:36Chutt patch night sucks.
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00:41mechou OK, I have a bug that seems pretty reproducible, using cvs from a few hours ago. Master backend w/2 m179, slave backend w/bttv. [qt3-mysql installed on both.] When SBE stops, MBE barfs and says "Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy." Am I doing something wrong?
00:42Chutt probably not
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00:42mechou Chutt: Is my "environment" bad then?
00:43thor_ karma
00:44mechou just wondering, using POS mandrake, which has borked compiler :)
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00:48Chutt naw, probably broken code
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01:32Omnic damn, I can't find where that dirty big select query is now that does the scheduling...
01:34Captain_Murdo| one you're looking for is probably in programs/mythbackend/scheduler.cpp
01:34Omnic yeah, found it... I had the memory that it was in libmythtv.
01:35Omnic (which was wrong)
01:35Captain_Murdo| used to be.
01:35Captain_Murdo| till David Engel rewrote a lot of that a while back.
01:35Omnic a long while.. must be last year now.
01:37Omnic hrm... that's not telling me what I want to know.... what's the correct way to specify that a channel on a different input is the same as on another... (e.g, Analog and DVB-S) ?
01:38Captain_Murdo| if the callsigns match they're assumed to be identical I believe.
01:39Omnic ahh, right.
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01:41Omnic yeah, looks that way
01:41Omnic " ((record.station = channel.callsign) " // channel matches
01:46Captain_Murdo| no, that code is the part that checks for a channel recording.
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03:16Uberbot Hey!
03:17Uberbot Does anyone know how to get the Myth web interface to display the correct amount of disk space available?
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14:04tacoshell hi all
14:04tacoshell I am trying to learn about mythtv so that I might contribute to it one day.
14:05tacoshell Anyone have a little time for some dumb questions?
14:05Captain_Murdo| try #mythtv-users
14:09tacoshell Noone seems interested in telling me what method the frontend talks with the backend. Is it like Shoutcast/Winamp? Do you guys use multicasting? Also, does mythweather use HTTP to connect to MSNBC?
14:09tacoshell I used tethereal to track the connection, and it doesn't appear to use HTTP.
14:10tacoshell thanks
14:10tacoshell I'll head over there.
14:10tacoshell <tacoshell> Noone seems interested in telling me what method the frontend talks with the backend. Is it like Shoutcast/Winamp? Do you guys use multicasting? Also, does mythweather use HTTP to connect to MSNBC?
14:10tacoshell <tacoshell> I used tethereal to track the connection, and it doesn't appear to use HTTP.
14:10tacoshell oops
14:11tacoshell sorrye
14:11tacoshell exit
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16:06Chutt the mailing lists are currently down
16:06Chutt while they're moved to the new host
16:08tacoshell darn
16:09Beirdo here's hoping for another clean cutover :)
16:09Chutt web + bugzilla's already done
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16:11tacoshell Beirdo: I'm trying to find some documentation on how the backend works. Is source the only way to learn more about it?
16:11Chutt tacoshell, yes.
16:11Chutt any particular reason?
16:11tacoshell I thought so. Thanks.
16:12tacoshell I am trying to learn alot about it, so I can teach my friends to do it too. We are trying to set up a p2p dvd network using this.
16:13Chutt heh
16:13Chutt it's not meant for that, and wouldn't work all that well in that context.
16:13tacoshell well
16:14tacoshell imagine in an apartment complex
16:14tacoshell wireless network
16:14Chutt not enough bandwidth.
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16:14tacoshell not yet
16:14Chutt dvds are big :p
16:14tacoshell wimax is comming
16:15tacoshell chutt, are you one of the developers here?
16:15Chutt i'm the main developer
16:15tacoshell nice work
16:16tacoshell it's fun, do you forsee wimax helping us spread this around? I mean, think of it, cell phones, web cams, security cams, this project has huge potential.
16:16Beirdo Yup, MythTV is Chutt's baby, and its growing quite nicely
16:16Chutt eh, i dunno
16:17tacoshell still, you guys are doing the community a huge favor.
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16:28thor_ Chutt, new box/bandwidth all on your nickel as well?
16:29Chutt nope
16:29Chutt i'm still sharing it with the same people
16:29thor_ ah, just new host then
16:29Chutt but, it's got twice the amount of ram, and is a faster p4 instead of a celeron
16:29thor_ the hamster is dead, long live the hamster
16:30Chutt 2.8ghz p4, vs 1.7 ghz celeron
16:30Chutt hmmm =)
16:30Beirdo I think this is more of a guinea pig, a bit too big to still be a hamster :)
16:30Chutt oh, and the provider isn't on the major spam blacklists, either
16:30thor_ heh
16:31Beirdo that's a plus
16:31tacoshell that's helpful
16:31tacoshell phpnuke, eh?
16:31tacoshell I am using 7.4 right now
16:31tacoshell I have to up to 7.5
16:31tacoshell do you know about googletap?
16:31Chutt nope
16:32tacoshell googletap is a set of mod_rewrite rules, and a couple of simple code hacks that make phpnuke urls more friendly
16:32tacoshell google can spider them
16:32Chutt no need for that, really.
16:32tacoshell are you using the phpbb module in phpnuke?
16:33Chutt 'course not
16:33Chutt i've got as much of phpnuke disabled as i can
16:33tacoshell hehe
16:33Chutt since it's a buggy piece of shit, and probably the most remotely exploitable piece of code ever written
16:34tacoshell agreed
16:34tacoshell I'm thinking of moving to plone or tikiwiki
16:34thor_ shhhh, don't say wiki
16:34tacoshell wiki
16:34tacoshell WIKI
16:34tacoshell hehe
16:34tacoshell Why no say wiki?
16:35thor_ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=mythtv&do=search_results&search_forum=forum_1&search_string=wiki&search_type=AND
16:35Beirdo phpnuke is definitely not my fave either, but the site works, and it would take significant time to redo.
16:37tacoshell that's it
16:38tacoshell why does the locale field in the settings table not getting populated?
16:38Chutt because you haven't set it up in mythweather yet?
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16:40tacoshell when I use the frontend to go to mythweather, it doesn't give me the chance to set anything up
16:40tacoshell are the settings in an unobvious place
16:40Chutt it's all in the docs.
16:41tacoshell I must be dumb, I just can't find it in the docs. Which page is it on?
16:42Chutt i dunno
16:45tacoshell you mean this one i think: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-16.html
16:45tacoshell oh btw, the themes you have going are great
16:46tacoshell movie themes would be awesome too, like a Terminator one.
16:47* Beirdo hears tacoshell volunteering to make some themes
16:49tacoshell soon
16:50tacoshell I did apt-get mythtvsuite. do I need to explicitly apt-get mythweather?
16:50tacoshell I cannot find mythweather at the command line.
16:51tacoshell find / -name "*myth*" -print didn't uncover anything.
16:51Beirdo tacoshell: that's more of a -users question
16:52tacoshell sorry!
16:52tacoshell wrong channel
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17:06stoffel choenig: hey
17:06choenig hi
17:06stoffel a long time since you've been here
17:07choenig not really... I'm in here almost each day :)
17:07choenig though I didn't speak a word for some month no2
17:07choenig now
17:07stoffel oh :)
17:08choenig I'm very busy with studies 'n stuff
17:08stoffel ah, now i know: i'm using irssi today, and it shows join/quit messages. i disabled that in xchat
17:08choenig ah :)
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17:10choenig I'd love to bring on my mythtv stuff, but I 'nichtmal' have a running myth box currently :-(
17:10choenig so, whats 'nichtmal' in english? ;)
17:11stoffel incomprehensible
17:11stoffel 'don't even' i think
17:11choenig oh, yes, 'don't even' is good :)
17:12stoffel heh, putty+screen+ssh+irssi is a good combination
17:12choenig hehe
17:13Beirdo you bet :)
17:13Beirdo the other nice combo is irssi in proxy mode and whatever IRC client you want
17:15stoffel choenig: what happened to your box?
17:16choenig I had to reinstall everything after I overconfigured everything...
17:16choenig and now I have a new raw installed machine, without mythtv.
17:16choenig I didn't have the time to install stuff again
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17:18o_cee thor?
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17:22linuxgeek Hello
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17:50splat1 Good night all
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18:01thor_ o_cee, yup
18:01o_cee minute
18:02@Chutt geert, thanks.
18:02Geert np
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18:02thor_ that +o sounds powerful
18:02Beirdo Woohoo. Ops :)
18:03Beirdo congrats, Chutt. The channel's been opless for a long time :)
18:03--- Channel: mode/#mythtv [-o Chutt] by Chutt
18:03Omnic Ahh yes, the wonders of writing an SQL query, and finding it doesn't work because you left in a comma before FROM.
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18:03Chutt they expired my nick last week :p
18:03Beirdo Ahh
18:04Chutt so the channel got unregistered as well
18:05Beirdo haven't been identifying to Nickserv?
18:05Chutt i had
18:05Beirdo weird. Well, I guess strange things do happen
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18:06Chutt doesn't really matter to me, i rarely use ops in here :p
18:06Beirdo but it's good to have in case someone REAL obnoxious comes along
18:07Beirdo so I send rkulagow a document patch, but I guess he's been busy.
18:07Beirdo sent even
18:09Chutt probably
18:09Beirdo I can always resend it if it gets lost
18:09* Beirdo shrugs
18:10Chutt mailing lists seem to be working now
18:10Chutt they'll be a tad slow until things catch up
18:11Beirdo I likely won't notice as I mainly use digests :)
18:14Chutt well, maybe not
18:14Chutt box is dead.
18:14Omnic Chutt: happy for a patch to videosource.cpp that gets rid of hardcoded diseqc/LNB options?
18:15Chutt talk to dopester
18:15Omnic righto
18:15Chutt he's the dvb guy now
18:15o_cee i've got a new mobile phone.. (yay). the menus seen there got like say 10 items wich you scroll through and stuff. when you scroll down, the current highlighted thingie follows you down but it never gets to the one at the bottom.. so you always know what you'll get as the selected item if you hit down/up.. hard to explain and i haven't got my digital camera here.. bah
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18:21dopester omnic: probbably not much use in a week or so i got an experimantal patch almost ready.. finishing up the dvbscanning code now, and john is almsot done with the ui
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18:23Omnic dopester: hrm, ok... I'd already done it, because those hardcoded values were the cause of my pain this week, trying to get the dvb card going :>
18:23Omnic dopester: in fact, I'm just testing it now.
18:23dopester yeah its only in the setup app though so its not a huge deal.. took me a few days to figure tha out when i first setup myth
18:24dopester the whole dvbsetup is beign replaced its ALMOST completely broken in my opinion
18:24Omnic heh... well, drop me your address, I'll send it to you anyway.
18:24Omnic cheers
18:24dopester http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/
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18:24dopester thats the page i'll ahve a patch at hopefully very soon.. i was testing the auto-pid code last night pretty heavily
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18:25Omnic sweet...
18:25dopester i gotta run.. i'll be back later tonite
18:25Omnic ok, you'll have this by then..
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18:46Omnic did the CVS server just go away?
18:46Omnic 16. dsr2-1-v2.dllstx4.theplanet.com 0% 5 5 218 218 220 223
18:46Omnic 17. gig1-0-1.sm-car6-13.dllstx4.theplanet.com 0% 5 5 222 219 221 226
18:46Omnic 18. ???
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18:51o_cee nighty night, need to get up in a couple of hours for work..
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20:26dopester omnic: im back
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23:08Omnic dopester: right, should have something in your inbox
23:11Omnic would any helpful person here have a short bit of a recording that I can import into my system, so I can try and work out what's giving me crackly audio?
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