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---Logopened Sun Feb 06 00:00:42 2005
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00:06Captain_Murdo| how can I force the screen to update? I
00:06Captain_Murdo| I'm calling update(fullrect) in doremove and I'm seeing the updateshowtitles method being called but it's not updating the screen with the new font color? :(
00:10Chutt dunno
00:10Chutt trace it a little bit more =)
00:10Captain_Murdo| hmm, maybe it is updating and it's because it's the current item that's changing color so it's overriding my inactive font.
00:10* Captain_Murd checks further.
00:10Chutt possibly
00:13Captain_Murdo| appeared to work ok moving the signal change to the dodeletethread method in the backend. after the file was deleted successfully the scheduler kicked off. also removed the fillist from the frontend and it still seemed to work OK. when it got the event from the backend, it reloaded like it should and the recording disappeared. now just need to get the font change working.
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00:21* Captain_Murd kicks himself when he realizes it is changing the font color, it's just that the inactive font is just a lighter shade, not a different color on the theme he's using.
00:22dopester heh
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01:00Chutt the power went out here earlier
01:00Chutt just got back to turning my main mythtv box back on, and the keyboard's not working :(
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01:10Chutt hrmph
01:10Chutt reboot fixed it
01:10Chutt stupid usb crap
01:11Chutt dopester, still here?
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01:30Captain_Murdo| Chutt, just committed that inactive font change along with the fillList() and signalChange mods. don't know if you saw the commit log yet, but I put in a mutex for sequentializing the delete threads. this way it doesn't hit the DB or filesystem too hard if you delete multiple recordings at the same time. sound OK to you?
01:35Chutt yeah, fine with me
01:35Chutt probably a good thing
01:36Captain_Murdo| probably causing errors on some people's underpowered systems while recording and would probably slow down the reload of the recordings list on everyone's if it was hammering the DB.
01:36Chutt yup
01:37Chutt apply a few more patches
01:37Chutt fix a couple redraw bugs i introduced
01:37Chutt then test =)
01:42Chutt oh yeah, and try and figure out why mythmusic isn't drawing properly
01:42Beirdo is the delay when deleting a show a known issue?
01:42Captain_Murdo| ordered an air2pc card this afternoon, now I need to get a faster computer so I can hook it up to my projector and watch some stuff in hdtv. :)
01:43Captain_Murdo| Beirdo, what delay? :) yeah, known and a "fix" is in CVS. read my recent posts on the -dev list or the -commit log for the commit I just did.
01:43Beirdo Ah, you *just* fixed it? :)
01:44Beirdo Cool. I can put up with it, but I'm sure many people woulda bitched.
01:44Captain_Murdo| it's not really a delay, it's just that the show doesn't disappear from the DB now until the file is successfully deleted. so you won't have your whole DB wiped out if your /video partition didn't mount for some reason.
01:44Beirdo I plan on using CVS anyways
01:45Captain_Murdo| it used to remove the recorded table entry right away even before checking if the file existed.
01:45Beirdo OK. when I tell it to delete a show, it goes back to the selection menu as if it had done it, but the show doesn't disappear for like 10s
01:45Captain_Murdo| yeah.
01:46Beirdo OK, so we are talking about the same thing, good :)
01:46Captain_Murdo| now it will change color
01:46Beirdo nice
01:46Beirdo while it's being deleted?
01:46Captain_Murdo| change font actually and depends on what the theme does whether it changes color or not.
01:46Beirdo nice touch
01:46Captain_Murdo| yeah, then when it's actually gone from the DB and filesystem, it goes away from the screen.
01:47Beirdo cool. Glad that was dealt with before release :)
01:47Beirdo I'll update again tomorrow morning, I think
01:48Captain_Murdo| yeah, color might still be confusing to some people, but they'll learn. now you can browse while it deletes. I went in and started another playback tonight even before the one I just watched and deleted had disappeared from the screen. :)
01:49Beirdo they'll learn :)
01:49Beirdo better than no change at all and people freaking as the shows aren't deleting
01:50Captain_Murdo| could maybe add a "[Deleting]" before the title or something if it made sense but don't want to put in new translation strings this late in the game.
01:50Beirdo for sure
01:51Captain_Murdo| should be more responsive now after my commit since it's only loading the recordings list once instead of twice as it used to after a delete.
01:51Beirdo cool
01:53* Captain_Murd run's "make install" for latest CVS modules on his production boxes
01:54* Beirdo scratches his head and wonders why ffmpeg is ignoring his bitrate settings.
01:54Beirdo making this nuvexport overhaul a pain
01:54Chutt it doesn't like you, obviously
01:54Beirdo obviously not :)
01:54Beirdo the feeling is becoming mutual
02:04Chutt heh
02:04Chutt 5-6 second round trip time for list email
02:04Chutt not bad.
02:04Beirdo nice
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02:42Chutt hrm
02:42Chutt somehow the base font stuff's broken
02:43Chutt funky.
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02:56Chutt oh, duh
02:56Chutt it's broken because the testing programs (mythepg, mythtv) don't load theme.xml
03:08Captain_Murdo| cool, ordered the air2pc and now sold my unused 250 card to help pay for it. talked with my wife earlier today and explained the broadcast flag and told her I was ordering the air2pc card. after hearing about the flag, she was like "maybe we should get a spare in case the first card ever dies" :)
03:10Beirdo nice :)
03:11Beirdo OK, nuvexport patch done. yay
03:15Chutt stupid accidental distcleans
03:15Chutt captain_murdoch, the broadcast flag applies more to the software, really.
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03:25Captain_Murdo| yeah, I just thought it was neat that she said "maybe we should get a spare." means she understands it good enough.
03:27Chutt =)
03:29Captain_Murdo| do you know if it is safe to call removeListener inside CustomEvent. for instance when I don't want to get any more events.
03:33Chutt i _think_ it is
03:33Chutt where are you doing that, though?
03:34Captain_Murdo| trying to add the ability for commercial flagging to startup immediately after a recording starts so that flagging will be done right after the recording ends. the flagger will stay about 1000 frames behind the recorder and I was setting up a CustomEvent to receive the DONE_RECORDING message.
03:35Captain_Murdo| so the flagger knows when it can finish and doesn't need to stay behind anymore. I have a flag so I know when I need to process things inside the event but i was curious if I could just stop getting them by removing the listener once I got the event I wanted.
03:36Chutt i'd just ignore em after that
03:36Chutt instead of removing yourself from the queue
03:36Captain_Murdo| no biggie, just was curious. once I receive the event I need, I set a flag and ignroe them anyway.
03:36Captain_Murdo| ok, will do.
03:36Captain_Murdo| thanks.
03:38Captain_Murdo| better hit the sack before my wife changes her mind about that 2nd card. :)
03:39Captain_Murdo| code compiled, will test what I've got so far tomorrow
03:39Chutt heh
03:40Chutt i'm fixing a bug :(
03:40Chutt no sleep until then
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03:44Chutt heh
03:44Chutt and just as i say that, i get it fixed.
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07:22stoffel_ Chutt: i'll send another update to the german translations to the -dev list in a couple of hours. please apply as o_cee isn't around.
07:26johnp Chutt, I've rewritten scanwiz not to use setVisible, using the TriggeredConfigurationGroup as I believe you suggested. Thanks for the suggestion/instruction :) I haven't seen your comments (maybe that was a lucky break on my part). Anyway, I'll pass it on to dopster and then on to you. The only files affected for this part are scanwiz so that should be nice and localised.
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07:29l1nux hi
07:30l1nux what mythtv version work with "DVB/ATSC Patches" ?
07:30johnp the patches are in CVS
07:30l1nux http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/
07:31stoffel_ l1nux: wait for the 0.17 release sunday night
07:32l1nux stoffel_ the 0.17 support DVB scan... ?
07:32l1nux like mythdvb
07:32stoffel_ l1nux: i don't know, but it contains a major update to the dvb codebase
07:32johnp yes it's in
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07:33l1nux ok, Thanx stoffel_, johnp :)
07:33stoffel_ http://www.mythtv.info has more on all the changes in 0.17, l1nux
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07:34l1nux ok
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09:32stoffel_ anyone here to quickly commit a patch for the new smartplaylist feature? it adds a few new translation strings
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09:39stoffel_ noone? i'll send it to the -dev list then
09:40jvs good morning
09:40jvs anybody here is using a g400 for mythtv?
09:40stoffel_ it's almost 16:00 ;) but good morning to you.
09:40* stoffel_ points at the topic
09:40jvs ahh, damnit
09:40stoffel_ np
09:40jvs keep forgetting it
09:40jvs :)
09:41jvs almost 16:00?
09:41stoffel_ aren't you from austria?
09:41jvs you must be in the same time zone then :)
09:41jvs sure I am
09:42jvs you? germany?
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10:14Snow-Man Lists working well? :)
10:15Captain_Murdo| seem to be. I think Chutt said he was seeing about a 5-minute rount-trip time when sending his test messages.
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10:15Captain_Murdo| course that was at 2-3am. :)
10:16Snow-Man 5 minutes?
10:16Captain_Murdo| I think so..
10:16Captain_Murdo| sorry, 5-6 seconds. :)
10:16Snow-Man :)
10:17Captain_Murdo| [02:04:09] <Chutt> heh
10:17Captain_Murdo| [02:04:15] <Chutt> 5-6 second round trip time for list email
10:17Captain_Murdo| [02:04:16] <Chutt> not bad.
10:17Snow-Man Can you check the turnaround on the last message to -dev?
10:17Snow-Man message-id=<200
10:17Snow-Man 50206151203.GA12428@asterix>
10:17stoffel_ hey, that's mine ;)
10:17stoffel_ don't mess with it, please
10:17Snow-Man stoffel_: How long did it take to get back to you?
10:17stoffel_ i just sent it, and only receive mail every 30min
10:17mikegrb iptables -A INPUT -s 82.80.252.0/24 -j DROP to drop entire network, right?
10:17Snow-Man stoffel_: oh, bah.
10:18mikegrb way off topic but um time critical if you get what I mean
10:18Snow-Man mikegrb: yes, but not the place to ask.
10:18Anduin The lists (dev at least) work very well
10:18Snow-Man Anduin: Excellent. :)
10:18Snow-Man Gotta go
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10:33dopester yeah more devs are getting linuxtv dvb cards..
10:34Captain_Murdo| just see my message from earlier?
10:34dopester about your wife saying "get 2"?
10:34Captain_Murdo| :) yeah.
10:34Captain_Murdo| ordered 1, will make sure I can actually receive something before ordering another.
10:35dopester thats cool.. im gonna probbably have 3 of em in the end myself.
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10:36Captain_Murdo| a lot of times we have 2 shows recording that are on local stations so at least 2 would be nice if I can receive.
10:39l1nux what the "video source" choice needed for dvb card, in mythtv setup ?
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10:43l1nux because i dont have tv_grab_dvb... !
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11:32gfiend chutt: Shouldn't ThemedMenuPrivate::ReloadTheme call MythContext::LoadQtConfig?
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11:46l1nux i have problem with mythtv cvs (ERROR - Failed to get channel options for channel 3)
11:47stoffel l1nux: /topic please
11:47Anduin Always when you say something good about the mail lists, they break.
11:48l1nux ok
11:48Chutt anduin, they broke?
11:48Anduin Chutt - well, "not as fast"
11:49Chutt i just sent something :p
11:49Chutt took 6 seconds to get back to me
11:49Chutt captain_murdoch, you really need to make it disable actions on an item if a delete is pending
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11:50Chutt which shouldn't be difficult
11:50Anduin Chutt - yeah, I just checked that on the message you sent, so not broken for all
11:51Chutt you sent something new to the dev list?
11:51Anduin Chutt - a reply to Chris' reply
11:51Anduin I'm looking locally
11:51Chutt not showing up in mailman's archive, either
11:51dopester chutt im compiling up new code with triggered stuff
11:53Chutt cool.
11:53Chutt thanks =)
11:53johnp_ no probs
11:53dopester yeah i'll let you know in about 16 years when my pos box finishes compiling ;)
11:53Chutt heh
11:53Chutt i accidently did a distclean last night just before i fixed that stupid video disappearing in the epg bug
11:53Chutt so it took a while to verify it was fixed :(
11:53dopester you using an amd1800+ right?
11:53Chutt yup
11:53Chutt about a half hour for a full compile
11:54dopester yeah the we have the same pain
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11:54Chutt i should distcc it off to another box or two
11:54dopester as should i i got about 5 boxes siting idle right now
11:54Chutt anduin, local error?
11:55Anduin Chutt - yup, I have the number of connections set reasonably low on my outgoing box, sometimes spammers take them all and things take longer (though not often enough for me to assume that is the problem by default apparently)
11:56Chutt heh
11:57Chutt anyway, gotta clean up this place
11:57Geckofiend btw chutt. I'm playing around with sidescreen stuff for shits and grins... looks like it can all be contained in mythcontextprivate as long as it's ok to call the loadqtlook from reloadtheme.
11:58Chutt i _thought_ that was called separately
11:58Geckofiend I'm really just curious how much bang we get out of widescreen mode vs stretching the theme
11:58Chutt and didn't need to be in reloadtheme
11:58Geckofiend I'll take another look, I thought it was only called like once
11:58Chutt it's in programs/mythfrontend/main.cpp
11:59Chutt gContext->LoadQtConfig();
11:59Chutt gContext->GetMainWindow()->Init();
11:59Chutt gContext->UpdateImageCache();
11:59Chutt menu->ReloadTheme();
11:59Chutt =)
11:59Chutt feel free to change that around, though
11:59Chutt just, ah, not before 0.17
11:59Geckofiend right, but it's not called after a theme change that I saw
11:59Chutt that's the theme change logic
12:00Chutt called after every exit from the appearance page
12:00Geckofiend heh yeah it is. completly missed it
12:00Chutt dopester, tom hughes msg to the -dev list =)
12:00Chutt ah, i like the new speedy lists
12:01dopester let me see
12:01Chutt the videosource thing for newly added channels
12:01* Geckofiend goes off to update the release notes again
12:01dopester eek..
12:02Chutt the easy way 'round that might be to make the user re-run setup to add channels
12:02beavis o_cee, could you commit the L10ns for mythphone?
12:02Chutt beavis, figure out why that x11 stuff's not working?
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12:03Beirdo Geckofiend: any plans to change Titivillus to use a separate color for shows that are being deleted? Captain_Murdoch recently put in the code for that, but Titivillus doesn't seem to do anything with it
12:05beavis Chutt, there was some old stuff in my debian/ dir i think, after a cvs-clean it was working again
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12:06Chutt ok
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12:14dopester chutt: got a fix for that.. simple actually..
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12:14gfiend Beirdo odd yeah I'll look into it
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12:15Geckofiend chutt: ETA on .17? need to know how much time I have to make the rel notes pretty
12:15Beirdo cool. :)
12:15Chutt lateish tonight
12:15dopester the superbowl version? :)
12:15Chutt post
12:15Chutt faar post
12:16Chutt stuff looks fairly good
12:16Chutt i'll try and fix that redraw bug
12:16Chutt in mythmusic, but aside from that..
12:16Chutt oh, maybe write a check for exif support
12:18stoffel - merge all the translation patches
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12:39Beirdo Jeez, Cardoe is being a lameass again.
12:39stoffel Beirdo: Petze! ;)
12:40Beirdo now he has a problem with CVS and refuses to report it.
12:40Beirdo "I'll just use 20050115". Nice
12:40stoffel or tattletale for you english-speaking guys ;)
12:41* derekr prefers engrish
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12:41stoffel but i agree with Beirdo
12:41Beirdo heh
12:42Geckofiend ok... patchs notes up to date again AFAIK.
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13:05dopester chutt: http://www.digitalregime.com/patches/atsc_scanner_triggered_changes_helptext_newchannl.patch
13:05dopester try #2
13:06dopester including fix for the SourceID post an hour ago
13:07Geckofiend hehe yeah there's a TON of space to be put to use if we don't stretch for wide screens: http://www.jdonavan.net/wide-mode.jpg
13:07Chutt yup
13:07stoffel luckily i didn't even start translating all those DVB related strings yet
13:07Chutt dopester, looks good
13:07Chutt does it work just as well? :p
13:08dopester yes
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13:09Chutt allrighty
13:09Chutt it's in my local tree
13:09johnp thank goodness :)
13:09Chutt compiling it, then committing it
13:10* dopester wipes the sweat from his forehead
13:11Chutt you could have created the children of those panes in that same function
13:11Chutt to reduce the duplicates, but, this works
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13:12Chutt heh
13:12johnp hmm you're right I'll fix it post 0.17
13:12Chutt and, er
13:12Chutt how's it connecting all those slots?
13:13Chutt oh, nevermind
13:13Chutt you're passing in the parent of the parent
13:13johnp yes
13:13johnp bad naming
13:15Chutt there, in cvs.
13:15johnp thankyou
13:15dopester so whos Kaiser Soze? :)
13:16johnp I'll tidy stuff up post 0.17
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13:23dr_willis Hmm. Would MythTV be able to use my 'creative labs Audigy' remote controll to controll it?
13:23dr_willis assuming i can find that remote. :P
13:23Chutt topic, please.
13:24dr_willis heh wrong channel - sorry.
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13:32Chutt there, all patches applied
13:36Beirdo So it seems when I tell it to skip near the end of the show, it misses the end of the show, times out for like 20s, then goes back to the Watch Recordings screen
13:37Beirdo it's like the last commercial break extends to the end of the show (at least that's how it acts)
13:38beavis Chutt, could you apply my patch with the i18n dir to mythphone?
13:39Chutt oh, oops
13:41beavis thanks
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13:41Toothpick Please point me to the faq for debian...can't get any channels...sound and video are working on only one channel at the moment...
13:42Beirdo Toothpick: clearly a user support issue, see the topic
13:42Toothpick ty
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13:46beavis btw, how do I make a patch with a whole new dir?
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13:51Chutt beavis, your stuff's not really right.
13:51Chutt it wouldn't get installed
13:51beavis why not?
13:52Chutt because you didn't add it to the top level .pro file?
13:53beavis I'm quite new at this qt translating stuff, but I was able to see my translations in the phone plugin
13:53beavis ok but I really didn't change anything in settings.pro
13:53Chutt probably because you did a make install in that i18n director
13:54beavis possible
13:54beavis is it fixable?
13:54Chutt sure
13:54Chutt just copy the other plugins
13:56beavis so should I send you now a mythphone.pro?
13:57Chutt and the rest of the stuff from the i18n directory that you didn't include
13:58beavis qm?
13:58Chutt no, the dummy.c stuff
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13:59Chutt but i'll be back later.
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14:00dem hi
14:00dem quick q? how would i go about setting up myth to stream real or mms streamers (i know mplayer and xine can play em)?
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14:02* Beirdo quickly points dem at the topic
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14:14dem poop
14:14stoffel Chutt: for mythphone, shouldn't CONFIG += debug be commented out instead of CONFIG += release?
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14:40stoffel ups, view-cvs just through an exception on me
14:41stoffel 'UnknownReference: current_root'
14:44dopester lord mythmusic takes forever to scan
14:44Chutt only if you have lots of mp3s
14:44dopester 15 gigs
14:44dopester took baout 30-45 minutes
14:45dopester i guess its cause they are nfs mounted?
14:45Chutt that, and it's getting the track length for them
14:45stoffel dopester: i can beat that :P
14:45Chutt oggs/flacs/etc are pretty much instantaneous
14:45dopester how does getting the tracklength take so long?
14:46dopester can't it jump to the end of the file and look at the PTS?
14:46Chutt pts?
14:46Chutt in a mp3?
14:46dopester program time code
14:46Chutt no such thing :p
14:46dopester i dunno if its in an mp3 just a question
14:46dopester oh well.. could be worse
14:46dopester guess i'll ahve to get gigabit here or convert it all to ogg.. heh
14:47Beirdo I vote for both :)
14:47dopester too bad my ipod dont play oggs
14:47Beirdo I hear ya there
14:49dopester oh well.. at least it finished :)
14:51stoffel my iRiver plays them just fine :)
14:53dopester well i got an ipod and im not replacing it
14:53dopester cost too damn much
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15:05Anduin That last checking to settings.pro enables xvmc
15:05Beirdo _rkulagow_: any plans to mention in the docs that we should be using 100DPI for X? I don't recall seeing it in there, and with the updated themes, it's pretty important
15:07Chutt anduin, fixed
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15:14beavis Chutt, it still doesn't include the localizations to the installation, I've created everything like it's done in another plugins
15:14Chutt then you missed something
15:14beavis should be configure be changed too? (It's the only plugin with a configure file)
15:15beavis -be
15:15Chutt nope
15:15Chutt and it's certainly not the only plugin with a configure
15:15Chutt mythmusic, mythgallery, etc all have them
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15:24beavis qmake doesn't create "install_trans: all" in the i18n/Makefile. install and uninstall stay empty. Any idea?
15:25Chutt your i18n.pro file isn't right, probably.
15:27beavis it's a copy of another one (with the changed plugin name of course). hm
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15:35Geckofiend so... what do folks think of: http://www.jdonavan.net/wide-mode2.jpg ?
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15:37beavis what's about the qm files? are they created automatically?
15:39onyxsoft_ Geckofiend: very nice
15:39beavis ok, with the qm file in i18n it works now, sorry for the stupid qestions
15:41laga Geckofiend: teh spiff,
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15:45dopester rkulagow_: you get what you need for dvb setup you think, or do you need some more text?
15:46rkulagow_ whatever you can send would be good. without direct experience (i won't get the card until monday) i can't really put too much together.
15:46dopester k
15:46rkulagow_ first things first. what's the minimum kernel. 2.6.10?
15:47rkulagow_ are there any other patches that go in on top?
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15:47rkulagow_ stuff like that.
15:48rkulagow_ dopester: you seen this? http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/angel/mythtv/air2pc-howto.html
15:48dopester yep. helped him a good deal over email
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15:51rkulagow_ there's a thread over in -users, "Re: [mythtv-users] Air2pc / Air2LAN"; "tom dombrosky" can't figure out how to add unencrypted cable channels.
15:51rkulagow_ if there's some "trick", then that might be stuff you may want to put together.
15:54dopester hrmm.. update to cvs and patch the driver..
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16:09johnnyST hi
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16:30Captain_Murdo| Chutt, you around?
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16:51Captain_Murdo| Anduin, you around?
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17:03xris ok, I'm done with everything major for mythweb.
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17:22rkulagow_ xris: still here?
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17:24xris rkulagow_: more or less
17:26rkulagow_ xris: on the listings screen, the "jump to" time appears to be too far right justified for me. The rightmost vertical of the "M" in PM ends up off the right side of the box that it's in. this is with firefox if it matters.
17:26rkulagow_ in internet explorer it looks ok; the time is more "centered" in the box and the "M" is fully visible
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17:47xris rkulagow_: odd, must be a font-size issue
17:47xris but I didn't touch any of those settings -- they're at the browser default
17:48dopester you should add in the code that changes the font size default to ie.. that bug irritates me really bad at work :)
17:48xris and it looks fine in galeon and firefox for me
17:49dopester xris: you want me to check safari?
17:49xris dopester: sure
17:50xris saves me from turning on my mac if it works well enough
17:50xris still a few display glitches in safari, I think
17:50dopester xris: the text in the righthand corner where it says MythWeb: Date is clipped at the bottom
17:50dopester rest looks ok at a glance
17:51xris odd. stupid font sizes
17:51dopester want a screenshot?
17:51xris if you want. I do have a mac here to test with.
17:51xris I'm more worried about the program details page
17:51dopester k let em do that
17:51dopester er me
17:52dopester is the table on the right supposed to be so long?
17:52dopester it looks like its supposed to be just cause there is so much data in it
17:53dopester the schedule options migth be better suited for a dropdown, but thats only a suggestion
17:53xris people don't always read everything in a drop down.
17:53xris but I may do that someday.
17:54dopester yeah just a suggestion.. what i like isnt what everyone likes :)
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17:59stoffel xris: will you please stop adding new strings to translate ;)
18:00xris heh
18:00xris I'm *so* glad that I updated the translation mechanism
18:00xris nice having the automated string updater for all of the languages
18:00stoffel hehe, it was manual before?
18:00xris remember all of those LANG_XXX constants?
18:00xris huge mess.
18:01stoffel now we need automatic translations next
18:01xris that'd be nice
18:01xris my spanish isn't even good enough anymore to cover that.
18:01xris and my german sucks. but that's what we have you for.
18:01dopester heeh i'll do the german! :)
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18:01stoffel oh yeah, dopester
18:02stoffel ok, i'm gone again
18:02xris should get cyberknet to do another "aussie" translation
18:02dopester "was ist los mit dich! Studiert English"
18:02xris oh, wait, it's still there. heh
18:02dopester no maybe its dir.. who the hell knows.. hehe
18:03dopester xris: you at least figure out what i was trying to say? :)
18:03xris dopester: I think so
18:03xris heh
18:03xris my german sucks. 2 years in high school and 1 year after college. that was 5-6 years ago
18:03dopester hehe try hanging out in #mythtv-de.. they all speak english back to me my german is so bad :)
18:03xris I'd pick it up fairly quickly again, though. helps growing up bilingual.
18:04xris most germans are like that. speak english better than most americans do
18:04xris it's rather sad.
18:05xris I think that arabic is next on my list, though.
18:05dopester i havent spoken it but once in the last say 6-7 years.. and that was in rome too..
18:05xris heh
18:06xris I occasionally get to practice my spanish. maybe my hispanic neighbors will be more sociable once the weather warms up.
18:06dopester its probbaly 20-30% hispanic here but i know almsot no spanish.. i feel like a goon sometimes.. going to Puerto Rico in a few weeks for work agian
18:06dopester that will be fun. hehe
18:06xris cool
18:07dopester filling up gas and having to prepay.. glad i remembered Negro otherwise the dude would have had no idea what car i was trying to pay for
18:07xris I spent 3 years in peru when I was a kid. I've forgotten a lot, but it usually comes back within a week.
18:07dopester yeah i was emersed in redneck english when i was growing up but didn't help with any real languages :)
18:07xris heh
18:07dopester ya'll come back now ya' hear!
18:08xris glad I missed that.
18:08xris my neighborhood here is mostly black + asian
18:08dopester NC isn't that bad really.. i just like to make fun of here
18:08xris on the edge of a nice area and a not-so-nice area... good price on the house, though
18:08dopester i have more black neighbors than white which i kinda like..
18:08xris I would, too, if they were friendly.
18:08dopester don't feel like i live in such an arrogant neighborhood
18:08xris we'll see what happens when the weather gets nice.
18:09dopester heh
18:09dopester i cna't help it that the economy tanked i could afford a pretty big house :)
18:09xris I've only really met one of my neighbors (black guy who grew up good friends with the family who used to live in my house)
18:09dopester the black dude behind he is forever high
18:10dopester i can hear him and his girlfriend smokin pot at night and coughing their lungs out.. hehe
18:10xris heh
18:10dopester the holidays are great
18:10dhofstra 'dope'ster neighbors smoke dope,, heh
18:10dopester he pulls out the james brown and blasts it
18:11dopester i guess now that im not a stoner i should change my nick.. hhe
18:12Geckofiend once a stoner always a stoner :-p
18:12dopester heheh
18:12dopester come on ive only smoked pot ONCE this year
18:12dopester and that was new years.. so it probbably was in 2004
18:13dopester ok im seriously off topic
18:13Geckofiend heh I once asked a company "so when should I report for the drug screening" they said "we know all you progammers are on SOMETHING. There will be NO testing of programmers."
18:13dopester heh
18:14dopester that would be my policy
18:14dopester i had to at work a few times when i had a company car
18:15dopester funny they would drug test me, but never checked my driving record.. i at the time had 10 out of 12 points on my license
18:15dhofstra heck, some of those starbucks drinks are more dangerous than what your neighbor is smoking
18:15dopester no shit
18:16Torq not watching the bowl then?
18:16dopester i guess i need to walk back in the other room
18:16dopester too bad im watching it with my set top box.. i need an hdtv
18:16Geckofiend depends on which bowl you're talking about
18:16* Geckofiend kids
18:16Captain_Murdo| Chutt, and Anduin, if eifher of you see this, can you read over the commit log for the commit I just did. I think it will satisfy the concerns presented on the -dev list about the recent delete thread changes.
18:16dopester bwahha
18:16dhofstra lol
18:19Anduin Captain_Murdoch - here now, if my SO can't click on something after it is deleted it is fixed as far as I'm concerned (though I still liked it more when it was just gone, but hey haven't read the commit entry yet so who knows)
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18:19dopester lord a tribute to "our national anthem"..heh
18:19dopester whoah.. commercials are in 720p tonite
18:20Geckofiend bleh none of my HD channels has the superbowl on it
18:20dopester no fox/
18:20dopester ?/
18:21dopester 2.2 gigs for 21 minutes of superbowl
18:23* jams just remembered fox is one of two HD channels over cable
18:23xris myth cvs server is "out of space" again
18:23Geckofiend yeah my antenna needs turned before I can get fox here
18:23dopester all those last minute commits
18:23Captain_Murdo| Anduin: they don't show up in the list anymore so they can't click. :)
18:23dopester geckofiend: can you stack antennas?
18:24Anduin Captain_Murdoch - even better, thanks!
18:24Captain_Murdo| I implemented what you were describing minus the new thread.
18:24Geckofiend I think so, but I'm not doing ANYTHING till it's warmer.
18:24dopester hehe i can understand
18:24dopester i installed a dish on my roof last year when it was maybe 15.. and that sucked
18:25Captain_Murdo| I could describe the changes but it'd be easier to read the commit log. I put a long description in there to make sure it satisfied everyone's concerns.
18:25Anduin Yeah, I'll read it just as soon as it arrives.
18:25Captain_Murdo| figured the new thread would have been too big of a change pre 0.17. other stuff wasn't that big of a deal.
18:26Captain_Murdo| was easier than putting checks in all the places a user could touch a recording on the watch recordings screen.
18:28Captain_Murdo| the main reason for the mutex is just to keep from hammering the DB or filesystem too hard and it was an easy fix for that. I'm sure there are people who have underpowered systems who get recording errors when they delete multiple items at the same time because of the recordedmarkup deletes and filesystem deletes.
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18:29Geckofiend dopster: http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=1341663&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpost.com%2Fservlet%2FSatellite%3Fpagename%3DJPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull%26cid%3D1091589016749
18:30dopester gecko: heh
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18:34Anduin Captain_Murdoch - yeah, my solution was just to collect all deletes and do them in order anyway, no contention, always in order, it was mostly the "still on list and I can poke it" that I was objecting to.
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18:38thread sorry to ask user questions in here, but nobody in -users can help me... and it may even be a bug
18:38thread 2005-02-06 18:34:02 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
18:38thread 2005-02-06 18:34:02 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:
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18:38thread is what I get in mythfrontend's output... trying to watch live tv, it goes black for a few seconds, then drops me back at the menu
18:39thread ...and I'm missing the super bowl
18:39thread :\
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18:39Captain_Murdo| Anduin: I understand. I bugged me a little also, but I didn't want to make what I thought was going to be a big change this close to release. wasn't as big as I pictured though. in the future, a single thread, whether it's new or one of the existing ones, might be a better way to go since right now the backend fires off a new thread for every delete.
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18:40darkfrog I have an ATI HDTV Wonder and am running SuSE 9.2, I am trying to set up MythTV, but I can't get my HDTV Wonder to work. I'm about ready to give up and buy WinXP Media Center Edition. Can anyone help me out?
18:40Anduin Captain_Murdoch - I'm building now, I'm sure I'll be happy, thanks again.
18:40Captain_Murdo| thanks for patience. :)
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18:41onyxsoft_ darkfrog: see topic (p.s. ATI HDTV wonder not supported in Linux)
18:42onyxsoft_ I think the last ATSC checkin changed the setup. I now have to enter the frequency when setting up the multiplex instead of the ATSC channel number (this is with Air2PC of course).
18:43darkfrog onyxsoft_, oh, my bad
18:44darkfrog onyxsoft_, I'm there now, but since you obviously know something about it can you tell me if there is any way to get it to run or if there's any planned support in the near future?
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19:01dopester onyxsoft: yeah but you can do a "full scan" now and you don't need ot know the frequency :)
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19:25xris anyone here know who is in charge of the "backend status" html page that prints out?
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19:25xris wait, nevermind.
19:33o_cee i made the remake of it a while back ago..
19:36xris I'm modifying status.php to pull out info and actually display it inline with mythweb
19:37xris thought there was a bug, but I was wrong.
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19:38xris yay, looks great
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19:40o_cee cool, tried making it easy to parse
19:41xris yeah. I just killed up through <body> and after </body>
19:41xris dunno why I didn't do it earlier.
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19:50xris ok, I think I'm done poking at mythweb before the release.
19:50o_cee :)
19:51o_cee need to shorten a translation here.. not easy
19:51xris will have to add the find-string schedule after
19:52xris I can make it so that the div auto-adjusts width
19:52o_cee it's in program detail, original airdate
19:52o_cee but i don't like the translation anyway, think i'll just put "Year" as the translation
19:52xris heh
19:53xris not just "airdate"?
19:53xris or "date"?
19:53o_cee hm yeah nevermind, confused it with airdate
19:53xris I don't separate them in mythweb.
19:54o_cee useless info since all mine are 2005
19:55xris ah
19:55xris not mine
19:55xris zap2it actually seems to have relatively accurate orig. airdate info
19:56o_cee i'm not getting that from any of our providers actually, heh
19:56dopester i guess i need to populate those as the current year with the eit code
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21:39KidBluz Hola
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21:53Geckofiend hehe "Can you please add a featire to not deinterlace interlaced content?"
21:54dopester that user needs the menu randomization feature we talked about a few weeks ago i think :)
21:57dopester geezz.. superbowl almsot filled up the hdd of my dev box.. 18 gigs..
21:59Geckofiend I need to do a hard drive shuffle on my MBE so I can add more disk space. Sitting a around 90% most of the time and I don't have anywhere to put it while I rebuild the box
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22:02toggle I've been looking all day for a HowTo on using my USB TVwonder with linux, mythTV looked like it might.
22:02toggle Anyone know off hand?
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22:03Geckofiend toggle /topic (p.s. it's probably not supported under Linux)
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22:09knebel oh, right.
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22:36rkulagow_ chutt: here?
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22:43rkulagow_ chutt: if you see this in scrollback, take a look at the README and see if there's stuff that needs updating.
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23:06rkulagow_ chutt: please don't forget that update to dbcheck to fix the spelling error in the mythweather jump point. Weather forcasts -> Weather forecasts
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23:21omoore is there any thought of using mythtv on a tivo box? is that a realistic thing to do?
23:22huhlig-winxp | not really
23:22Captain_Murdo| not realistic, been discussed quite a few times on the mailing lists.
23:22omoore i see.. was just curious, i'm building my first mythtv box
23:23Captain_Murdo| rkulagow_: you here?
23:25cmorgan omoore: you'd lose the tivo's hardware encoding and decoding
23:26omoore cmorgan, i'm not really worried abou the content.. ahh.. but the processor is pretty weak. .that's where your driving?
23:26cmorgan omoore: i'd be surprised if you could do anything near realtime decoding of mpeg on that cpu
23:26cmorgan thats why they have hardware for it
23:26omoore yeah.. i remember that it's pretty weak
23:26omoore no biggie..
23:27omoore was just hoping it could be a client machine
23:28cmorgan mpeg decoding is pretty intensive as well
23:28cmorgan you might be able to do it
23:28cmorgan omoore: seems worth more if you sell it to someone as a tivo
23:28omoore cmorgan, good point
23:28omoore cmorgan, they fetch good prices on ebay :)
23:29omoore cmorgan, heck, i ended up buying new because the ones on ebay were so close to retail even when used
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23:54omoore if i have a fairly beefy machine, is it realistic to assume i can use it as my normal workstation *and* a mythtv recording server?
23:54cmorgan maybe
23:55omoore (P4 - 2.4GHz, 768MB DDR PC-2100, nVidia GeForce T-4200)
23:55omoore (video is 64MB DDR ram)
23:57* Beirdo looks at the topic... nope, this is the development channel
23:58omoore ughh.. sorry.. l8r
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