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---Logopened Wed Mar 02 00:00:38 2005
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00:02defaultro good evening everyone. I did troubleshoot my mythfrontend with -v all. And I was getting hammered with prebuffering pause. I remember seeing a message related to audio like "768 left, needed 4096" and also free available something. What is the fix for this?
00:03Beirdo there you go asking support questions in the wrong channel again
00:03defaultro Beirdo!
00:03defaultro :)
00:04defaultro is that considered a user side issue?
00:04TonyMaro Beirdo: Too bad the channels aren't the other way... "mythtv" and "mythtv-devel" would actually make more sense for us n00bs
00:04defaultro Beirdo, i posted about this but nobody knew
00:04Beirdo reading the topic would make more sense
00:04defaultro in mythtv-users ml
00:05defaultro ok
00:05TonyMaro Beirdo: You don't really expect n00bs to READ do you? lol
00:05defaultro Tony, actually, he already informed me yesterday about it
00:05defaultro but I'm thinking that my issue is a code issue
00:05TonyMaro :) I just found it funny - I hadn't realized yet it was devel channel
00:05Beirdo defaultro: so what makes this a development issue then? Do you have a patch to fix it? Looks to me like you are looking for user support.
00:05defaultro ah
00:05defaultro there you go
00:06defaultro so what channel is preferarable
00:06defaultro is it still gonna by mythtv-users?
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00:06defaultro I'll talk to you in the other channel. I hope you can help me
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00:29doggkruse I am trying to trackdown t
00:29doggkruse the ff/rw issue
00:30Baylink EOP in .17, you mean?
00:30doggkruse it seems to be getting stuck in a loop EOP?
00:31doggkruse sorry EOP?
00:31doggkruse no, I mean ff goes for 10 seconds ad freezes
00:31Baylink Oh. Sorry.
00:31doggkruse seems to be in a loop in Nupple video player around here:
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00:32doggkruse if (!videoOutput->EnoughFreeFrames() && !unsafe)
00:32doggkruse {
00:32doggkruse //cout << "waiting for video buffer to drain.\n";
00:32doggkruse setPrebuffering(false);
00:32doggkruse if (!videoOutput->availableVideoBuffersWait()->wait(10))
00:32doggkruse {
00:32doggkruse if (++videobuf_retries >= 200)
00:32doggkruse {
00:32doggkruse VERBOSE(VB_IMPORTANT, "Timed out waiting for free video buffers.");
00:32doggkruse if (videosync==NULL && tryingVideoSync)
00:32doggkruse {
00:32Beirdo Jeez.
00:32doggkruse sorry for all the code
00:32Beirdo www.pastebin.com
00:32Baylink I won't be too helpful to you, and www.pastebin.com
00:32Baylink Thanks, Beirdo. :-_
00:33doggkruse k, posted it there
00:33doggkruse under doggkruse
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00:38doggkruse using mythfrontend --verbose all I seem to get an audio error when it frezes
00:38doggkruse OutputAudioLoop: audio paused
00:42doggkruse seems to me that the frontend should not be trying to output audio while fast forwarding?
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01:01doggkruse this is strange
01:01doggkruse looking through the code, audio should be paused when ffding..... but I don't get the audio paused messages until after the ff freezes....
01:15doggkruse hmmmm
01:15doggkruse about every third time through the audio loop we get an audio play event while fast forwarding..... that shouldn't happen
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01:31doggkruse okay.... since no one seems interested at this point, I'm going to set myth to compile with debug enabled and go to bed.... I'll be back tomorrow with a backtrace....
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02:02doggkruse I lied about going to bed
02:03doggkruse I think I have an partial answer
02:03doggkruse there is this line
02:03doggkruse stop = framesPlayed <= keyframedist;
02:03doggkruse }
02:03doggkruse I think this is resulting in true
02:03doggkruse possible because of missing keyframes?
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12:27_rkulagow_ geez louise! that pvr500 is one in-demand card. one place i checked has stats: total backordered: 892
12:28@Chutt heh
12:28@Chutt that's crazy
12:28@Chutt only reason i can see wanting one is if you're running out of pci slots
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12:29@Chutt two 150s are a hell of a lot cheaper
12:29_rkulagow_ snapstream has an article where they put 5 pvr500's in one machine, so 10 tuners.
12:29@Chutt eh, that's silly.
12:29_rkulagow_ can it be done? yes. but do you want to do it? that's a totally seperate question.
12:32Beirdo wow
12:32Beirdo I run 3 PVR-250s and I though I was bad
12:33kvandivo hmm.... that's an awful lot of bandwidth..
12:33kvandivo that would be something like 28 gigs an hour of writing to the disk at the mpg level i use
12:34Beirdo which is still not that much
12:34Beirdo be like running 4 HDTV
12:34Beirdo or something
12:34kvandivo ya.. guess not.. about 8 megs a second
12:35_rkulagow_ just wondering what it takes to saturate the PCI bus
12:35_rkulagow_ and if 5, why not 6? the intel d865G series has 6 PCI slots + 1 AGP
12:36_rkulagow_ (that's what i've got on my masterbackend)
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13:11@Chutt hrm
13:12@Chutt to buy another lcd or not
13:12@Chutt since they're $20 cheaper now
13:21GreyFoxx What kind of lcd ?
13:22@Chutt dell 20"
13:23@Chutt down to $490
13:23GreyFoxx Mmmmm I could use one of those myself :)
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13:29woodefec hey - do i need sthing else than make, qt3 to install mythtv
13:29woodefec ?
13:29woodefec i mean - i have mysql, libttf and lame
13:30kvandivo reading both the topic, and the documentation will lead you down the road you need to be on
13:30woodefec as i configure it creates config.h, config.mak
13:30woodefec kvandivo : thx
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18:15mtjs hi
18:15mtjs if I use nvidia for tv out, I can see the mythtv interface
18:15mtjs but from the moment I press live tv it crashes...
18:15kvandivo congratulations
18:15mtjs ;)
18:15mtjs what can that be, I don't find any info on that...
18:16mtjs also if I play a video (with mplayer) trough mythtv
18:16kvandivo follow the docs. they tell you what to do in the event of a crash.
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18:18mtjs wait 6 monds for .18 ?
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18:23gr8nash mtjs you didnt read the topic
18:23gr8nash this isnt for user support
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18:37mtjs gr8nash: I'm a nagger ;)
18:37mtjs tought to report something
18:37mtjs pitty some mythtv developers are like ... so ... ... uncool
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18:42Geckofiend reading that whitepaper on the Tivo reccomendation system. It never ceases to amaze me how there's an algorithm for damn near everything.
18:46dopester determining what commercial entities to sell out and pollute your tivo with useless shows you don't want to see?
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20:00streamtrade Any particular tools you use to measure performance of the code? I am using hdtv and trying to milk the most out of my processor, I am planning to see where the bottlenecks are.
20:05Geckofiend heh wow the scrrensaver singleton is borked
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21:12@Chutt whee.
21:13@Chutt i drove for 3 hours today to spend 15 minutes fixing a computer problem
21:13@Chutt so exciting
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21:21dopester you become an it gimp for a day?
21:21@Chutt naw, brother called and said his computer died
21:21@Chutt he's got his big senior (in hs) term paper due tomorrow
21:23dopester sucks being the "computer expert" in the family
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23:28dopester evening rkulagow__
23:29rkulagow__ hey, dopester.
23:29rkulagow__ so, the bad news is that when i bypassed everything and plugged the Air2PC straight into the cable from comcast i was still getting unc errors
23:30rkulagow__ i need to go outside and see if there's something wrong at the MPOE to my house
23:31dopester is it happening on all the channels or just some?
23:32rkulagow__ i think it was on all of them. let me check my recording schedule; i may be able to bypass the distribution amp and go straight into the outside cable again.
23:32rkulagow__ brb
23:35rkulagow__ crap. i just realized that i'd lose my cable modem connection if i bypass
23:35dopester my cable mode didn't like going though an amp
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23:36rkulagow__ mine has been working fine.
23:37rkulagow__ i can put a two way splitter in front of the distro amp so i can put the air2pc on one leg and the distro amp on the other. worth a shot?
23:37dopester i dunno
23:37dopester you said you don't have anything else that gets digital cable right?
23:37rkulagow__ btw, you have a chance to look at the stuff i put at the end of the HOWTO?
23:38rkulagow__ no, i don't
23:38dopester yeah looked ok to me..
23:38dopester yeah i wish there was something else to validate your cable being ok with
23:38dopester your int he same situation im in.. i can't get discoveryhd to save my life
23:38dopester getting an hdtv in a week or two but until then i won't be able to know anything eles..
23:39rkulagow__ well, i'm way off from getting an hdtv, so can't do that.
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23:45rkulagow__ does any of the ber / SNR stuff tell you if the incoming signal is _too_ strong?
23:47dopester the snr was dxxx ish right?
23:47rkulagow__ i'm booting up now, so i'll let you know in a sec
23:47dopester k
23:51rkulagow__ status 1f | signal fc20 | snr dde0 | ber 00007ff8 | unc 0000000f | FE_HAS_LOCK
23:51rkulagow__ status 1f | signal fbb0 | snr dde0 | ber 00007ff8 | unc 0000000e | FE_HAS_LOCK
23:51rkulagow__ status 1f | signal fb80 | snr ddb0 | ber 00007ff8 | unc 00000011 | FE_HAS_LOCK
23:51dopester looks ok to me
23:51dopester well the signal and snr
23:51rkulagow__ other than the unc, of course, which sucks.
23:51dopester yep :)
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23:52rkulagow__ back to the real problem. channel scan doesn't show any channels. is the unc affecting that, or should i still be able to see what digital channels are available?
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23:54rkulagow__ also, 2.6.11 + your QAM patch. still don't need to go the dvb-kernel route, correct?
23:54dopester yes
23:54dopester if it locks its good
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