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#mythtv IRC Logs for 2005-03-09

---Logopened Wed Mar 09 00:00:37 2005
00:00NightMonkey borra: The guide works for me and my Dish subscription and DataDirect.
00:00dopester datadirect has guide for dishnetwork.. im really lost
00:01borra Check out the 500 channels... The PPV channels
00:01borra does it have start/end times for the PPV events, or does it just say PPV
00:01borra you cannot record a PPV event unless you manually put in the start/end time
00:01NightMonkey borra: Oh, I don't do PPV.
00:01Beirdo jeez.
00:02* Beirdo slaps borra with the off-topic trout
00:02borra hahaha !!!
00:02borra Guide is broken... how in the world is that off topic
00:03NightMonkey borra: Call Dish and tell them to fix it with Tribune. Or bug Zap2It via their forums. If you have a patch, post it to the mythtv-dev mailing list.
00:04GreyFoxx Mr: What password did you give it ?
00:04GreyFoxx oops
00:04Beirdo hehe
00:05borra Nah, I will just figure out how to re-write this MS c into something I can use on my nix box, and let the myth community figure it if they ever care about it
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---Logclosed Wed Mar 09 02:12:30 2005
---Logopened Wed Mar 09 02:13:32 2005
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02:15--- Channel: irc.freenode.net changed the topic of #mythtv to: This is the MythTV development channel. For mythtv related user support, go to #mythtv-users
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---Logclosed Wed Mar 09 02:23:18 2005
---Logopened Wed Mar 09 02:23:20 2005
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04:34Mutiny i'm using knoppmyth and playing back video (from files recorded seperately) doesn't fill the screen and seems to have a colored boarder around the video. how do you stretch the video to fit the screen?
04:36LedHed Mutiny, is it a GF2?
04:38LedHed if so, then you need a 3rd party utility called nvtv. I think it can be found at source forge
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05:09Mutiny LedHed, yes, it is.
05:09Mutiny the console seems to fill the screen alot better.
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08:24m4lu6 Would anyone have any distro recommendations for an uber-stripped down install who's primary purpose will be to run MythTV?
08:24dopester make one from busybox and ask in -users :)
08:24m4lu6 anything *not* debian, that is. (note: i am a debian zealot, but i want to try something else for the first time in 9 years)
08:25m4lu6 oh, shite. good point.
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10:49riksta i'm after someones config files for the ATI remote wonder, if anyone has them
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11:59b44a hello
11:59b44a i have a problem with getting lirc to run with mythtv
12:01tazmaniac b44a, look at the topic, this ain't a support channel, ask in #mythtv-users
12:01b44a oh sorry
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14:31jams_ ls
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15:42dja no files found
15:50@Chutt not even .?
15:52thor_ -rw-r--r-- 1 chutt chutt 46262 Feb 19 2004 plextor_usb_mpeg4_finished_driver_for_myth.patch
15:53@Chutt heh
15:53@Chutt it'll really not be terribly many lines of code, if everything works as it should
15:53@Chutt should slip right in to the NVR.cpp file
15:53thor_ already done, I saw it on /.
15:56@Chutt oh yeah
15:57rkulagow_ chutt: that plextor still uses a sound card for audio capture?
15:57@Chutt nope
15:57@Chutt it'll work like btaudio, essentially
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16:02@Chutt heh
16:03@Chutt i honestly don't think i've manually deleted a recording (other than for testing purposes) in at least 6 months
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16:03rkulagow_ because you hav a bajillion terabytes?
16:03dem bajillion and 1
16:04dem anyways tho, any pointers, where to go when i want to get started hacking myth
16:04thor_ cvs co ?
16:07dem and can you have a plugin of a plugin?
16:07@Chutt what for?
16:08thor_ good for christmas lights
16:12dem write a plugin to autorip an audio cd, if it's put in the frontend, and if it's not already ripped of black listed
16:13dem or show a menu, what do you want to? listern, rip, nothing
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16:15@Chutt why would that be a separate plugin, and not part of mfd?
16:15thor_ tadum
16:15dem same thing of could be said for a dvd i guess
16:16dem mythaudio, and mythdvd
16:16dem just dunno how to go about it the right way yet
16:18thor_ well, to get anywhere close to auto-rip when first inserted, you need to think about altering the musicmetadata table to keep track of original cddb indexes for imported tracks
16:18thor_ so that would be one place to start
16:18thor_ although mythdvd is a much simpler plugin to understand than mythmusic
16:19thor_ and an understanding of mtd will carry over (at a high level) to an understanding of mfd
16:20shadash thor_: what is the status of a mythburn interface?
16:20* thor_ looks around to see if there's another thor here
16:20shadash is anybody working on this already?
16:20dem other thing was adding dbus support (so i could auto detect new media, myth does it, but it can't do usb sticks, or camera(s) & cam. cards
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16:21thor_ shadash, oodles of occasional interest, but I'm not aware of any serious effort
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16:22@Chutt dem, i'd suggest starting with mfd - it's a new daemon process that's should eventually handle stuff like that
16:22@Chutt ie, ripping, media detection/finding/streaming, etc
16:22thor_ hot diggity, sounds cool
16:22shadash is there a reason for no development other than it just hasn't been done yet? Ie. chutt doesn't think it's needed
16:22@Chutt and thor's written all of it
16:22@Chutt shadash, no one wants it
16:23@Chutt so no one's written it
16:23shadash ahhh, ic
16:23thor_ no big enough itch
16:24dem last thing i wanted to add was musicbrainz support, so I can make sure all the metadata is good in mythmusic
16:25@Chutt that's something i wouldn't care for
16:25@Chutt the mb lib is big and crappy
16:26@Chutt and it really doesn't work all that well for a _player_ app
16:26@Chutt for a music organizer, sure
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16:27thor_ btw, rtsp is pretty cool stuff
16:27dem mythvideo pulls metadata from imdb after all
16:27@Chutt and mythmusic pulls from cddb
16:27@Chutt but mb's stuff is really more geared towards an organizer app
16:28@Chutt it requires more user interaction than a player only app would want
16:28@Chutt thor, cool, getting it streaming stuff? :p
16:29thor_ slapped something together within the intention of just using it for vizualization
16:29thor_ darn if vlc couldn't listen in :-)
16:29@Chutt heh
16:29@Chutt right
16:29@Chutt might as well use that for streaming video as well
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16:30thor_ yup, trying to do it "right" atm
16:31thor_ the RFC is one of the few that I find almost comprehendible
16:31dem hmm, i wonder if you can make a sample mpeg2 clip loop it, and allow on the fly overscan, and pan settings, for "tunning"
16:33@Chutt that'd be good
16:37dem i wonder how hard would that be to implement
16:47rkulagow__ chutt: the pdf's that i upload as a part of the HOWTO; since they're binaries, does CVS only keep the latest? i'd like to start putting in more pictures, but that will bloat the size, and i don't want there to be hundreds of megs of old pdf's sticking around
16:48@Chutt it keeps everything
16:48@Chutt all revisions
16:48rkulagow__ well, since the pdf source document is the sgml file, it doesn't really need to.
16:48@Chutt heh
16:48@Chutt well
16:49rkulagow__ should i care about filespace issues on your system?
16:49@Chutt probably
16:51@Chutt might be best to just not check the .pdf in
16:51@Chutt and have that be separate
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17:04othy- http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/109621?search_string=dvb%20sound;#109621 <-- its suggested in this thread that the issue was solved in the CVS version from sometime just before Feb 9, were these changes included in 0.17 (when was 0.17 branched?)
17:04@Chutt when it was released.
17:06othy- ok, i wasn't sure if i could assume that 0.17 was the cvs version of that day
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17:36beavis how can i find out why my cvs build is crashing? gdb doesn't really help
17:36beavis Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
17:36beavis [Switching to Thread 46912564266080 (LWP 27639)]
17:36beavis 0x0000000000020dc4 in ?? ()
17:38thor_ is it build in debugging mode ?
17:38thor_ err, built
17:38beavis yes
17:38thor_ bt?
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17:38beavis bt?
17:38thor_ backtrace to -dev list, as per http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-20.html#ss20.2
17:40beavis that's everything what gbd mythfrontend tells me
17:40thor_ type bt in gdb, then hit enter
17:41beavis thanks ;)
17:43beavis ok it's mythnews what crashes
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17:46Mutiny how do you get rid of the blue box around video playback?
17:47gr8nash mutiny.. its a user question
17:47thor_ electrical tape ?
17:47gr8nash lol
17:47Mutiny a user question.. right.
17:48Mutiny sorry. :)
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17:48gr8nash you need to change the xv_color key
17:48gr8nash heh missed him
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18:42ParadigmShift| hello
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18:45Kronuz what do you think it might be a black overlayed rectangle over most of the TV image during "Watch TV"?
18:45mikegrb it means you need to type /topic
18:46Kronuz (I can see the borders outside of the overlayed black rectangle)
18:46Kronuz I think this might be a sourcecode issue
18:46mikegrb are you going to fix the sourcecode?
18:46GeckoFiend unles you've got a patch to fix it it's a -users issue
18:46thor_ remove electrical tape?
18:46* mikegrb hugs GeckoFiend
18:46mikegrb !
18:46* mikegrb hugs GeckoFiend
18:48Kronuz is it a known bug? (for pvr350 decoding) or you think I have something wrong?
18:49mikegrb #2
18:49Kronuz ok, thanks :)
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19:10Kronuz hey, is there a document explaining the architecture of MythTV?
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19:55dem is OSD affected by pan X, Y & overscan X, Y (by setting it in the myth menu)
19:56dem because i was wonder if it be easier to the pan + overscan calibration via mpeg2 file, or a png bitmap
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21:22archpollux hi.. can someone please explain to me the channel table in the mythtv database?
21:23Baylink Probably not. :-)
21:24Baylink http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
21:24archpollux and how come mythfilldatabase doesn't fill up the channel database?
21:24archpollux it does it on one of my comps, not on the other
21:25archpollux and on both i have the right username and pwd for zap2it
21:25* thor_ stares wistfully at the irc title
21:25Baylink I gather it does, at least the first time you run it. Are you using the same ID on both? Yeah; this has become a -users topic...
21:25archpollux okie
21:25Baylink (Nice one, thor_ :-)
21:26archpollux sorry, didn't see it
21:26thor_ np, at least no-one slapped you with a fish
21:26archpollux it's ok, i can take it
21:29* dopester slaps archpollux with a moldy cod
21:29archpollux ahhh
21:29archpollux that was refreshing
21:33ParadigmS mythtv is crashing on me when i attempt to view tv through the PVR-350 out. The message is the terminal is opening audio device /dev/sound/dsp :: opening oss audio device /dev/sound/dsp :: using resampler from: 0 to 1000
21:34ParadigmS any ideas
21:35Baylink Yeah; ask on -users. :-)
21:35ParadigmS i tried :(
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21:35Baylink If you're not equipped to to core dumps, tracebacks, and hack source, you're on the wrong channel. :-)
21:35Baylink (to do)
21:35thor_ hmmm, core dumps
21:36Baylink Sometimes there are no users who can help. Alas, that is not a good enough excuse. Try the mailing list.
21:36ParadigmS yeah i know this is for you developers...I was hoping though that you would help a lowly user like me out :-/
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21:45Baylink Could I get one sentence from anyone on RTCVideoSync: Could not set RTC frequency, Inappropriate ioctl for device.
21:45Baylink ?
21:45Baylink 2.6.8/SuSE 9.2
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22:06Ergot Could anyone help me setup mythtv?
22:07Ergot just tell me what to do after the make install, or maybe if you can tell me how to start this weird backendserver that's labled etc.rc.d.init.d.mythbackend
22:07Ergot cuz the documentation don't work for me
22:09Captain_Murdo| might ask someone who actually uses Myth like the people over in #mythtv-users
22:09Ergot I feel ya
22:09Ergot I'm doing that right now too
22:10Ergot but you can see the answers I get, "Read the guide" "check the guide" "guide guide guide"
22:10Captain_Murdo| you won't get anything better in here, see the /topic
22:11Ergot I know I won't. But I though just maybe
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22:57erik hey, with mythvideo - when I'm done watching any video, it plays the first video in the list alphabetically. Every time. Anyone ever heard of this issue? I'm launching the videos from the 'list' view
22:58mikegrb erik: to solve it type /topic
22:58mikegrb it is sure to give you the answer
22:58erik already tried there
22:58erik :(
22:59mikegrb your answer is not here
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23:08hadees hey what does everyone use to code in mythtv? anyone use eclipse?
23:08mikegrb vim
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23:14Captain_Murdo| anyone in here know if I have to exec the QApplication in order to receive events?
23:17Captain_Murdo| or is it enough to call qApp->processEvents() every so often?
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23:22Captain_Murdo| cool, processEvents() worked. can now start the commercial flagger on an in-progress recording and it will stay behind about 30 seconds and it can receive the DONE_RECORDING event to know when the program is finished so it doesn't have to pace itself anymore.
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23:23Captain_Murdo| only thing is it can't do logo detection right now unless I make it stay a lot more behind. have to look into doing that and then have it catch up. also need to hook up the code to call the flagger with the proper option for in-progress recordings.
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23:31Captain_Murdo| awesome. while the recording is in progress, the flagger chugs along at about 29-30fps, as soon as the recording ends and the DONE_RECORDING is received, the fps starts climbing up rapidly and less than a minute later the show is flagged.
23:32gr8nash-home | Captain_Murdoch Nice patch sir!
23:32mikegrb Captain_Murdoch: have a cupcake
23:33Baylink Oddly, Cap, it's working now.
23:33Baylink I reniced both ends, and new threads may have taken advantage
23:33Captain_Murdo| my master backend has 3 M179 cards and even though it's only a p3-700, I think it can flag 3 shows at the same time at greater than 29.97fps each so flagging semi-realtime should be possible.
23:33Captain_Murdo| Baylink: hmm, I dunno... glad it's fixed.
23:33GreyFoxx Sweet
23:34Baylink It may be more laod sensitive than it used to; gotta figure out why it can't find sync.
23:34Baylink (load, even)
23:34Captain_Murdo| on my Athlon 1300, the flagging takes only about 5000 usecs per frame so the code ends up sleeping for the other ~28000.
23:34GreyFoxx damn man, that's nice.
23:34Captain_Murdo| on my 352x480 video that is.
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23:54hedgehair can mythtv cut commercials?
23:55mikegrb hedgehair: /topic has your answer
23:56hedgehair ok.. thanks
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