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---Logopened Tue Mar 15 00:00:42 2005
00:18[og]vizionary| well, had to change a few usb_kill_urb's to usb_unlink_urb's among other things, but i finally got hte driver built, installed and working
00:18[og]vizionary| ....once
00:18[og]vizionary| it requires a hard reboot before it'll work again 8(
00:19[og]vizionary| admittedly, the docs state that the driver will work with the 2.6.x series, but they highly recommend 2.6.10 or greater
00:19[og]vizionary| due to "usb stability" issues, IIRC
00:21[og]vizionary| at any rate, it may be of note to any others following this....the following comments are made by the driver into syslog...
00:21[og]vizionary| Mar 15 00:19:14 phatkat kernel: go7007: timeout waiting for read interrupt
00:21[og]vizionary| Mar 15 00:19:14 phatkat kernel: go7007-usb: unable to reset the USB interface
00:21[og]vizionary| Mar 15 00:19:14 phatkat kernel: go7007: error transferring firmware
00:21[og]vizionary| since i'm using a 2.6.7 kernel (and it's non-trivial for me to move to 2.6.10 on this box...tonight...)
00:22[og]vizionary| so, the quest will have to wait until i have my other dev boxes at the office tomorrow
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00:25Captain_Murdo| like we care
00:25Chutt i still have to take that hardware out of the box
00:25Captain_Murdo| yeah, seems like you've been busy lately.
00:26Chutt heh
00:26Chutt yeah
00:26Chutt fun stuff at work
00:28Captain_Murdo| thatonly reason I'm up right now
00:28Captain_Murdo| that's the only reason...
00:29Chutt heh
00:29Captain_Murdo| cursored back to the beginning of the line and hit ENTER by accident while updating my comment.
00:29Chutt i'm up because i'm sick and slept from like 4pm -> 10pm
00:30Chutt i finally updated my dev machine to 2.6, though
00:30Chutt so maybe i can get this plextor junk working
00:31Chutt and the pvr-usb2 as well
00:31Captain_Murdo| I made that jump on mine so I could test the air2pc cards.
00:31Captain_Murdo| those would be nice.
00:31Chutt that too =)
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02:15mtjs gecko: i see... :(
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09:30_GeckoFiend Captain_Murdoch around?
09:38mtjs _GeckoFiend: he is saving BA atm
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11:07mtjs what is a good IDE to program with ?
11:07kvandivo_ vi
11:08mtjs hum :)
11:08wswanson and eclipse is one of the most popular open source
11:08mtjs that one runs on java no ?
11:09wswanson I think so, but is very extensible... I don't use it; I use vi.... so can't answer too many questions... I know that Borland's new IDE supports eclipse, as do others -- so it is being taken seriously
11:10mtjs I don't know vi that well... do you have a buton then that compiles the source and do you get the errors in a box and can you jump easely to line no's ?
11:11mtjs I use pico now (or nano)
11:18_GeckoFiend mtjs I use KDevelop myself...
11:19mtjs I'll try eclipse...
11:19mtjs I don't want to use kde ;)
11:22_GeckoFiend heh I have development, staging and production machines so KDE isn't an issue.
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11:28mtjs _GeckoFiend: I'm setting up a development machin now
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11:42mtjs eclipse has no line numbers standard :-)
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11:52mBob hi - are there any plans to add a feature to mythtv to allow people to watch tv directly (without buffering it), to allow people to play games consoles? like tvtime, except built into the app
11:54mikegrb no
11:55mBob well i think it'd be a good idea, and shadash agree's with me
11:55mBob is there a place to officially suggest it?
11:56Chutt it's a bad idea.
11:57Chutt and won't happen.
11:57mikegrb shadash is an utter moron
11:57mBob why is it a bad idea? im not trying to start an arguement but i would like atleast a reason for it being a bad idea
11:57Chutt just use tvtime if you want it
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11:58mBob so there isn't a reason, you just dont like the idea?
11:58Chutt that's the reason.
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11:59mBob great....
11:59Chutt it's dumb to reimplement functionality.
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11:59Chutt the whole point of using a pvr is so you can pause/rewind live tv
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11:59mBob so why do we have mythgame, mythweather, etc?
11:59Chutt if you don't want to do that, use one of the many apps that are designed for straight through tv watching
12:00mBob well i could use firefox instead of mythweb or kweather instead of mythweather - they're the same principal, except this is directly related to watching tv
12:00mikegrb no it isn't
12:00Chutt you couldn't use them on a tv with a remote
12:01Chutt since the ui isn't designed that way
12:01mBob chutt - 99% of people use their xbox/ps2 on a TV, which has a remote
12:02Chutt what's that have to do with anything?
12:02mBob surely somebody agree's with me and shadash
12:02mikegrb nobody agrees
12:02Chutt hook your ps2 or xbox directly to your tv or receiver
12:02mikegrb right
12:02mikegrb it is dumb to plug it into the computer
12:03mBob not if you dont have a tv
12:03Chutt <mBob> chutt - 99% of people use their xbox/ps2 on a TV, which has a remote
12:03mBob oh whats the point
12:03mBob its an obvious feature enhancement
12:04Chutt no, it's not
12:04mBob if you dont want to see it, fine
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12:07mikegrb gosh he is about as moronic as shadash
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12:18DexterF hi
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12:46Aneurysm9 does anyone know why mythtv would have trouble seeking through mpeg2 streams from a PVR500 that playback fine with any other player?
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12:46mikegrb Aneurysm9: try typing "/topic" for the answer
12:47Aneurysm9 akk, sorry, wrong channel
12:47_GeckoFiend Aneurysm9 you need to check your file for the hex string "abacdf" if it's there then the file isn't played under myth
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19:45K`zan Perhaps someone here might be able to tell me what the "setup" program might be named, no luck finding anything other than xml and png files that have anything to do with setup (gentoo). MUCH TIA!!!!!!!
19:46K`zan And no one seems to know for sure on mythv-users or I wouldn't be perstering anyone here :).
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20:04o_cee K`zan, that doesn't mean that it's ok to ask in here.. but the easiest answer is to look at the .ebuild
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20:09o_cee Chutt, Christian Zander asked me to test the gfx card under windows, he suspected a busted card.. heh. and i've been waiting for the new drivers for months.
20:12K`zan o_cee: Found it, not a clue about the pchdtv card there, but this is a learning experience. Sorry to pester y'all before I had wrung it out :-(.
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20:17kvandivo if seinfeld had been written now instead of 10 years ago they wouldn't have had soup nazis..
20:17kvandivo they would have had mythtv nazis..
20:17kvandivo No mythtv for you!
20:18kvandivo as soon as someone comes into the channel..
20:18kvandivo No mythtv for you!
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23:37balazs hi
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