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00:10 | <xris> | cool. icon lookup/submission is done (enough). now to start working on authorizing submissions. |
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02:15 | [~] | xris ponders how to handle security / spam protection on the channel icon submission stuff |
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02:45 | <hardnova> | where do i find the current bug list ? |
02:49 | <gbee> | svn.mythtv.org |
02:49 | <hardnova> | thanks |
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06:49 | <janneg> | hi stuarta |
06:50 | <janneg> | I've fixed h264 + ac3 seeking and can now almost watch it |
06:51 | <janneg> | i.e. I have parts of a couple of minutes I can watch without framedrops |
06:54 | <stuarta> | hiya, cool, has it been submitted yet or does it need more testing? |
06:55 | <janneg> | not submitted, I want to ask Chutt first |
06:56 | <stuarta> | happy to test if needed, have a few hours where i can |
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06:59 | <janneg> | stuarta: http://pastebin.ca/370287 |
07:02 | <stuarta> | simple.... |
07:05 | <janneg> | yes, but strange. the code gets called several time per pes packet so all packets end up with pts = dts = AV_NOPTS_VALUE |
07:05 | <stuarta> | so the question actually is, why does it get called so often.... |
07:07 | <janneg> | I've looked hard but I think it's called for every ts packet with payload |
07:07 | <janneg> | s/I've/I haven't/ |
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07:22 | <stuarta> | well my cpu still struggle to play back HD content :( |
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07:32 | <janneg> | stuarta: it helps that I have have current libav and skiploopfilter enabled |
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08:02 | <janneg> | ah and a release build helps also |
08:02 | <stuarta> | ahh yeah, i always use dbebug |
08:03 | <stuarta> | dammit backspace doesn't work from the mini mac to a screen'd session |
08:03 | <stuarta> | bib |
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08:20 | <hardnova> | is there some kind of advantage of using mplayer over xine that im missing ? |
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08:26 | <briand> | hardnova: yes, it makes the end-user more observant, giving them more time to casually read the channel topic, etc. |
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10:40 | <briand> | gbee: are you seeing any isolated single 'hiccups' in audio, immediately after a commercial skip? seems to have started after j-rod's commits earlier this week |
10:40 | <briand> | seems to happen about 10 seconds or so after the program resumes |
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10:43 | <gbee> | I'm currently running [12827], have been too busy to update |
10:43 | <gbee> | not that I use commercial flagging anyway |
10:44 | <briand> | i'll have to do some more experimenting... playing old(er) recordings, etc.. |
10:44 | <briand> | it doesn't -seem- to be happening if I just seek ahead, only after auto-seeking from a commercial flag |
10:44 | <briand> | and, again, only one little 'blip' |
10:45 | <briand> | i can play through some shows recorded/flagged before this week, and see if it's happening there |
10:45 | <briand> | it almost seems like it's 'in the recording' or something |
10:46 | <briand> | i guess i can play through a few commercials (auto-skip off) and see if it still happens then |
10:46 | <briand> | maybe commercial-flagging is doing something in recordedseek or somesuch... |
10:46 | [~] | briand shrugs |
10:47 | <briand> | i'll experiment some more, and see if i can narrow it down a bit. |
10:47 | <briand> | (like i need an excuse to watch more television!) |
10:48 | <briand> | fwiw, i updated to 12857 yesterday afternoon... but i was noticing this earlier in the week as well |
10:48 | <gbee> | might be related to Janne's change, the position map change? (12819) |
10:48 | <briand> | possible |
10:48 | <gbee> | I've not seen it myself |
10:48 | <briand> | but then, i shouldn't be able to experience this in something recorded/flagged before that, right? |
10:49 | <briand> | I've got about 20 "Monk" episodes still on disk from a month or so ago, so I'll try with those, as well as the episode from last night |
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10:55 | <briand> | well, we'll experiment a bit... thanks for the input. :) |
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13:47 | <sphery> | kormoc: Did you see gbee and my discussion on mythtv-dev list about #3132 (same subject as ticket title)? He actually provided proof of the no-underscore rule at http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#q4 . |
13:48 | <kormoc> | yeah, i saw after I replied |
13:48 | <sphery> | Granted, he sent the proof 4 minutes before you added the comment to the ticket... |
13:48 | <sphery> | OK. Just wanted to make sure. |
13:48 | <kormoc> | but it shouldn't affect firefox, as it's been 2.1 compliant for ages, or at least I've thought so. |
13:48 | <sphery> | I was quite surprised. |
13:49 | <sphery> | Yeah. That's what we were just commenting on. |
13:49 | <gbee> | kormoc: I've been using underscore in my class names for what seems like years and they've worked in every browser I tested |
13:50 | <sphery> | I'll bet you're right and it's an extension or something to allow testing of strict-compliance with older versions of CSS or whatever... |
13:50 | <kormoc> | We had an issue at work where _class didn't work in ie, but class_name worked fine |
13:50 | <gbee> | I only became aware that underscore wasn't permitted in the specs by accident whilst doing some reading a few weeks ago |
13:50 | [~] | kormoc nods |
13:50 | <sphery> | And here I thought gbee just knew everthing... |
13:51 | <kormoc> | Well, hopefully (s)he'll respond with some more info |
13:51 | <sphery> | I was amazed at how quickly you corrected me. |
13:51 | <gbee> | underscore/hyphen or numbers preceeding the identifier is a definately prohibited though, at least up to 2.1, 3 might allow it, I don't know |
13:53 | [~] | sphery is worried about sending his next e-mail, now... |
13:53 | <sphery> | Trying to help with #3133... |
13:53 | <gbee> | sphery: I may give that impression, but I gain more knowledge in the average day that I dispense |
13:54 | <gbee> | it just so happened that after seeing 3132 I had gone back to the specs to confirm what I'd read, I still had the page open when I saw your post |
13:55 | <sphery> | I'm still impressed. |
13:55 | <kormoc> | it's still sucky that it validates even tho it's against spec |
13:55 | <sphery> | I know I don't know everything, but now I'm pretty sure I know nothing compared to you. |
13:55 | <sphery> | Yeah. I don't understand that. |
13:56 | <sphery> | I even specifically set it to validate against CSS 2.0 and 1.0 and never even got a warning about the underscores. |
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13:57 | <briand> | i wonder if that _ issue is why mythweb looks like it does in IE6 |
13:57 | <gbee> | well the original item I read was actually complaining about the flaws in the validators, I went on to look for information on those 'flaws' and eventually to the underscore issue |
13:58 | <sphery> | Funny. Guess we've confirmed those flaws... |
13:59 | <gbee> | I suppose so ;) |
13:59 | <gbee> | I'm off to eat |
14:01 | <briand> | heh.. strike my last comment -- i just read the last note on 3132. |
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14:08 | <briand> | incidentally, it looks like 3132 is probably a dupe of my mythweb bug from last year (which is still open, I believe)... albeit, much better outlined than mine, and with a probable solution. |
14:09 | <briand> | that is to say, xris/kormoc - if you fix/close 3132, you can probably close 14xx along with it. |
14:11 | <xris> | hmm |
14:11 | <xris> | I've only ever seen problems with things starting with _ and then only in IE |
14:11 | <stuarta> | xris: pong from yesterday :) |
14:11 | <xris> | the ticket thingie you assigned to kormoc. what is that? |
14:12 | <stuarta> | there's a new dup match type. |
14:12 | <stuarta> | there is a basic mythweb patch in the orig tickey |
14:12 | <stuarta> | but needs some work. |
14:12 | <briand> | with current svn, most of mythweb is viewable/usable in IE6... but the worst screen is probably the 'program details' screen when you click on a program in the guide (or search results list, or whatever) -- that one's a real mess in IE |
14:12 | <kormoc> | nifty, I was gonna look at that later today |
14:13 | <stuarta> | it's pretty simple i'd guess |
14:13 | <kormoc> | briand, how's the new video module look? |
14:13 | <xris> | stuarta: ok, maybe I just misread the original ticket. Didn't look like it was applied. |
14:13 | <briand> | kormoc: i haven't looked at it -- I don't have any "videos" on my myth system. |
14:13 | <kormoc> | heh, fair nuff |
14:13 | <briand> | sorry. :( |
14:13 | <kormoc> | no worries |
14:14 | <stuarta> | xris: the core changes have been, the mythweb ones haven't. mainly cause you guys are busy rewriting things :) |
14:14 | <xris> | I haven't touched mythweb in weeks. |
14:14 | <briand> | ping me here in channel after you submit something for 3132, and I'll `svn up` and test it out in IE for ya. |
14:14 | <xris> | life, and the stupid channel icon stuff have been getting in the way |
14:14 | <kormoc> | briand, kk, I'll likely work on it this weekend |
14:14 | <stuarta> | it's been months since the original ticket was issued.... |
14:15 | <briand> | and, as i said above, it should probably close my 11/12-month old bug as well (#14xx) |
14:15 | <briand> | I'm poking through the LightScribe Linux API Reference Manual (a mere 48 pages) this afternoon.... |
14:16 | <briand> | :) |
14:16 | <kormoc> | :) |
14:16 | <stuarta> | xris: last time i tried the original patch, mythweb bitched about lack of translations. |
14:16 | <xris> | stuarta: I was just a little thrown off because bruce and others have been talking about rewriting all of that stuff, so I wasn't sure if it conflicted, etc. |
14:17 | <stuarta> | doubt it conflicts... at this point in time |
14:17 | <xris> | briand: you mean http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1317 ? |
14:18 | <briand> | yes, that's the one |
14:18 | [~] | stuarta apologises for having been down the pub to watch the rugby this afternoon |
14:18 | <xris> | lol, esp. since the status page is controlled by the backend. heh. |
14:18 | <briand> | i was "used to" the non-transparent png thing... |
14:19 | <briand> | but the "mythtv.org" link that is (was?) at the bottom of the opening page was placed there in the .css file.... |
14:19 | <briand> | incidentally, that screen looks fine in IE6 with current SVN |
14:19 | <briand> | :) |
14:21 | <briand> | xris: at that time, the only screen that IE6 was really messing up badly was the opening mythweb screen (the one with the menu that now includes the 'statistics' menu option, etc) |
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14:22 | <briand> | in current svn, the 'program details' screen is probably the worst-rendered in IE6 |
14:22 | <xris> | briand: can you send me a screenshot? |
14:23 | <briand> | sure, lemme kvm over to the ie box and snap a pic |
14:23 | <briand> | 1 |
14:23 | [~] | briand grumbles |
14:23 | <briand> | lemme try that again, without the fat-finger error. |
14:24 | <xris> | it still may be prudent to switch to using dashes. |
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14:31 | <briand> | xris: www.briand.is-a-geek.com/mythweb_prog_details.jpg |
14:32 | <xris> | lol, wtf. |
14:32 | <xris> | maybe I didn't clear out all of the the starting-underscore things |
14:33 | <briand> | it's looked like that for quite some time... since you rewrote the mythweb presentation screens, anyway |
14:34 | <briand> | looks fine in firefox from my linux boxes, tho |
14:34 | <xris> | yeah. I probably didn't fix the starts-with-underscore stuff |
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15:30 | <CDev> | xris: Not sure if it matters, but here is the same screen that briand sent using vista & ie7: http://www.blainconsulting.com/screen.jpg |
15:31 | <xris> | CDev: thx. |
15:31 | <CDev> | Haven't looked at firefox in a while, but the page looks fine for me. |
15:33 | <xris> | I'll just have to go and fix all of the underscore-prefix stuff |
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16:14 | <okolsi> | xris: have a minute? |
16:24 | <xris> | okolsi: ? |
16:24 | <okolsi> | xris: I've worked a little with music part of the MythWeb |
16:24 | <okolsi> | basically fixed the streaming, album art etc now after the music DB table has changed |
16:25 | <okolsi> | also tiny optimizations to queries, added genre display to some lists etc |
16:25 | <xris> | cool |
16:25 | <okolsi> | how should I proceed with these? |
16:25 | <xris> | ticket. :) |
16:25 | <okolsi> | okey :) |
16:25 | <xris> | kormoc or I will get to it eventually. |
16:25 | <okolsi> | but.. presumably not a one big one? |
16:26 | <xris> | try to at least separate the patches out by feature. |
16:26 | <okolsi> | or incremential patches one after other? |
16:26 | <xris> | brb |
16:26 | <okolsi> | brb? |
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16:30 | <xris> | "be right back" (was fixing lunch) |
16:30 | <okolsi> | :) |
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16:32 | <okolsi> | xris: I'll make one ticket and attach different patches to that one |
16:32 | <xris> | sounds great |
16:32 | <okolsi> | gotta go now.. |
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17:01 | <MrGandalf> | damn.. I wish I could make the huge scheduler query about 10x faster.. |
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17:03 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: I have now almost working h264 HD playback with my Athlon64 X2 2Ghz. |
17:03 | <MrGandalf> | really? How? |
17:04 | <MrGandalf> | that's impressive, if you're still using ffmpeg |
17:04 | <janneg> | only in scenes with fast motion I get sometimes prebuffer pauses and frame drops |
17:04 | <janneg> | I'm still using ffmpeg |
17:04 | <MrGandalf> | still single threaded? |
17:04 | <janneg> | yes |
17:04 | <MrGandalf> | impressive |
17:05 | <MrGandalf> | did you commit your optimizations yet? |
17:05 | <janneg> | skiploopfilter, ffmpeg rev 8117, release build and a seeking fix |
17:05 | <janneg> | no. nothing commited yet |
17:06 | <MrGandalf> | I saw there were a couple small optimizations added to ffmpeg, one being disputed somewhat |
17:07 | <janneg> | and I can't commit the ffmpeg sync since it has currently no internal AC3 decoder |
17:07 | <MrGandalf> | do you have content which has ac3? |
17:08 | <janneg> | yes |
17:08 | <MrGandalf> | curious, have you ever noticed how ac3 audio is lower than standard mp3? |
17:08 | <MrGandalf> | I mean at times it seems less than half |
17:09 | <janneg> | the skiploopfilter patch misses the gui option to activate it and I think it should be go to mythtv-vid |
17:10 | <janneg> | and I'm not entirely sure about the seeking patch |
17:10 | <MrGandalf> | well, it won't help me much since ffmpeg still doesn't support PAFF interlaced streams |
17:12 | <janneg> | Have you read Michael Niedermeyer on that topic. I don't think I would want to implement it |
17:13 | <MrGandalf> | no, I haven't |
17:14 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2007-February/052329.html |
17:15 | <MrGandalf> | thanks, reading now.. |
17:17 | <MrGandalf> | well, he says it's messy.. maybe someone else won't think so.. there's still hope |
17:26 | <MrGandalf> | So I set mysql to use a query cache nearly twice the size of the entire database, indexes and all and my scheduler runs are still 6-10 seconds. |
17:27 | <MrGandalf> | obviously not io bound |
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19:35 | <LLyric> | looks like mythweb/modules/music/mp3act_playstream.php doesnt handle music in sub-directories properly? |
19:35 | <LLyric> | It uses: $filename = 'data/music/'.$row['filename']; |
19:36 | <LLyric> | Where $row is from music_songs |
19:47 | <LLyric> | Fixed, submitting a patch |
19:58 | <LLyric> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3135 |
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20:09 | <LLyric> | Wasn't someone doing a big mythweb rewrite? I've got so many ideas for mythmusic, in particular :) |
20:09 | <LLyric> | mythweb+music that is |
20:13 | <briand> | i look forward to the change.. :) |
20:14 | <briand> | and, please, allow ordering the artists via the artist_sortkey column, hopefully coming soon to a mythtv installation near you. ;) (#3104) |
20:15 | <LLyric> | It's missing lots of features: download tracks, add all search results to playlist (maybe with checkbox). A proxy to add track information toe the streaming audio, ... |
20:16 | [~] | briand nods vigorously. |
20:16 | <LLyric> | I'm adding a "download track" link to the playlist now, but need to reuuse a bit of code from the patch above, so thinking about refactoring a little |
20:16 | <LLyric> | But iirc the guy who does mythweb is very protective, so my stuff isn't that likely to get in. |
20:16 | <briand> | i can't even get mythweb+music to come up when i access it from work. |
20:17 | <LLyric> | That's a more fundamental issue. Does mythweb work? |
20:17 | <briand> | i dunno about that, per se... if the code is clean, and works, i don't think xris would have a problem with it. |
20:17 | <briand> | oh, yes.. works fine. :) |
20:18 | <briand> | i haven't delved into finding out where it's going askew; been too busy with other projects |
20:18 | <LLyric> | Yeah, me too. I only fixed this one because Wifey complained about it. |
20:18 | <LLyric> | Now she wants a download link |
20:18 | <briand> | say, how are you with 'basic linux' stuff? |
20:18 | <LLyric> | Sigh. |
20:19 | <briand> | or, just beyond 'basic linux' stuff, anyway? |
20:19 | [~] | LLyric is a big linux geek |
20:19 | <briand> | can i pick your brain for a minute or two? |
20:19 | [~] | LLyric been running linux, on and off, since 1992. My desktop has been 100% linux since about 2001 |
20:19 | <LLyric> | Sure, ask away |
20:19 | <briand> | okay, here's the situation; |
20:20 | <briand> | my main mythtv box has two IDE channels |
20:20 | <briand> | on channel 1 is the boot drive (a 40G maxtor) and the dvd-rw drive |
20:20 | <LLyric> | sure |
20:21 | <briand> | on channel 2 are two 500G drives, LVM'd and mounted as /video |
20:21 | <LLyric> | sure |
20:21 | <briand> | i want (yea, need) to replace the 40G drive -- it's noisy compared to everything else, and sounds like I'm making popcorn every time mythfilldatabase runs, or commercial flagging, etc. |
20:21 | <briand> | so, I have another 250G drive |
20:22 | <briand> | i want to partition it so I've got the same 40G boot+root area, give a few gig or so for /music, and throw the rest into the /video LVM |
20:22 | <LLyric> | Except for the LILO bit - see http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html |
20:23 | <briand> | will look at that. :) |
20:23 | <briand> | the question becomes: |
20:24 | <briand> | if I unplug the LVM volumes on channel 2, and plug the new drive there, I should be able to boot from the dvd drive and do the copy, etc, right? then, once finished, put the 250G drive in place of the 40G drive, boot it up, and have my working myth system back |
20:25 | <briand> | then, at my leisure, I can add the rest of the 250G drive to the LVM |
20:26 | <LLyric> | Do it the other way. Remove the dvd, plug the second disk in there, boot normally, copy the files. |
20:26 | <LLyric> | Then put the 250 in position one, boot off the dvd, and fix up the mbr. |
20:29 | <briand> | so, leave the LVM connected, then? |
20:30 | <LLyric> | Sure |
20:30 | <LLyric> | Do the LVM add bit last |
20:30 | <briand> | right.. |
20:30 | <LLyric> | After you've got it booting of the new drive |
20:31 | <LLyric> | By doing it like I suggest, you do 90% of your work under a normal environment. The only thing you do off the boot disk, is to rewrite the mbr |
20:31 | <briand> | which leads to the really shaky part (for me)... how do i invoke grub to install to the boot sector of the new drive? |
20:31 | <LLyric> | $ grub |
20:31 | <LLyric> | grub> root (hd0,0) |
20:31 | <LLyric> | grub> setup (hd0) |
20:31 | <LLyric> | grub> quit |
20:32 | <LLyric> | At the time you run that, the 40 isn't installed, so you've got no risk of breaking that. |
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20:32 | <LLyric> | You've booted off the cd |
20:32 | <daMaestro> | awesome. |
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20:32 | <briand> | ah.. okay.. that'll install it to the boot sector of what will become the primary drive (the 250) |
20:32 | <daMaestro> | you guys kick arse. |
20:32 | <LLyric> | Another howto http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Upgrade_Hard.html |
20:33 | [~] | LLyric chuckles at daMaestro |
20:33 | <briand> | okay, cool... so it *is* just about as easy as I thought it would be... |
20:33 | <LLyric> | Just found mythtv? |
20:33 | <daMaestro> | hey LLyric.. i've noticed you lurk in #fedora.. i'm planning on doing a frontend livespin for myth, wanna help |
20:33 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, finally bought a tuner |
20:33 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, also.. j-rod is doing a single CD install image with f7 ... that is kick to be sweet |
20:33 | <briand> | I've got a recording going until 10pm, then another from 11-12, then nothing until 9:30pm tomorrow.. so, maybe I'll get this project underway at/around midnight, then... |
20:34 | <LLyric> | daMaestro: I'm a bit busy with my other projects, but can probably offer specific advice if you have questions |
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20:34 | <daMaestro> | that is *going* to be sweet |
20:34 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, ok.. and i will |
20:34 | <briand> | ah, so _that's_ where I recognize the nick from!! #fedora. :) |
20:34 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, you on the devel team? |
20:34 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, i'm not sure how well i can make mythfrontend stateless |
20:34 | [~] | LLyric is waiting for his second tuner to be supported in linux - helping the author test stuff. |
20:34 | <LLyric> | daMaestro: the frontend only needs the mysql config |
20:35 | <briand> | what kind of tuner is that, LLyric ? |
20:35 | <LLyric> | briand: a DViCO Dual DIgital 4 (dual dvb tuner). |
20:35 | <LLyric> | My existing Dual Digital 1 works fine |
20:35 | <briand> | ah... :) |
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20:36 | <briand> | I was thinking of getting one or two HDHRs, eventually. they require 0 available slots. :) |
20:36 | <GreyFoxx> | What is LiveSpin ? |
20:36 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, i'm wondering if i should spend the time to do a 'firstboot'esk "give me all your mysql info" service for when booting |
20:36 | <daMaestro> | LLyric, or do you think most users will know how to configure their frontends |
20:37 | <GreyFoxx> | Just wait |
20:37 | <daMaestro> | GreyFoxx, a spin of fedora that is statless/live |
20:37 | <GreyFoxx> | cdev is working on autodiscovery |
20:37 | <daMaestro> | stateless* ... jeeze.. bending over to type is a pita |
20:37 | <daMaestro> | GreyFoxx, aswesome.. even better news :-) |
20:37 | <GreyFoxx> | upnp based autodiscovery for finding the backend + sql settings |
20:38 | <LLyric> | An entirely stateless frontend would be a bit of a pain, I think. |
20:38 | <daMaestro> | hmm i need to switch to my desktop.. stooopid leaning over to type on the laptop. |
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20:38 | <LLyric> | For example, my frontend mounts the video and music fileshares, so it can play them. |
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20:40 | <daMaestro> | well the / will be rw |
20:40 | <daMaestro> | the current tool set being worked on for fedora live images has a rw root |
20:41 | <daMaestro> | and, actually, you can run the entire system from RAM, if you have enough |
20:41 | <daMaestro> | do you guys mind if i lurk? |
20:41 | <briand> | lurking is fine.. :) |
20:42 | <daMaestro> | cool.. just added to autojoin |
20:42 | <briand> | ...and, good evening to mr. GreyFoxx :) |
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21:43 | [~] | LLyric adds a download link to mythweb+music search results |
21:43 | <LLyric> | Heheh |
21:47 | <Chutt> | with the upnp autodiscovery, the frontend shouldn't need any local write access, aside from any caching it does.. |
21:47 | <Chutt> | no initial config |
21:47 | [~] | LLyric isn't too familiar with upnp |
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23:46 | <eskil> | gbee, dude ? |
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