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01:33<xris>briand: you can always do a more detailed (manual) search to pull up possible better icons.
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04:33<gbee>don't think Bruce likes me much
04:33<stuarta>:(
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04:36<gbee>another eit fixup - movie should be "film" in the category column, movie's correct in the category_type column though
04:37<stuarta>iirc there's something in there to specifically push it to movie
04:43<gbee>category isn't translated anywhere, it should be the local name for that category - category_type is the column used internally for searches/schedules and should be movie
04:44<stuarta>gotta patch already?
04:44<gbee>minor thing really, I'm just updating the translation
04:44<gbee>not yet, I'll write it later today
04:45<stuarta>i have a vague suspicion that there's a reason it's the way it is...
04:45<stuarta>but no proof
04:45<stuarta>Isn't Movie translated???
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04:50[~]gbee double checks
04:51<gbee>no, films on tonight are all showing 'Movie'
04:51<stuarta>didn't think you used the eit data?
04:51<gbee>my parents box does
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04:53<stuarta>hmmm, no "film" in the mythweb highlighting system
04:53<stuarta>only movie
04:54<stuarta>it's obviously looking for film though
04:55<stuarta>cause the category=movie stuff is highlighted as unknown
05:06<gbee>iirc mythweb is using the wrong column in some cases
05:08<gbee>the highlighting/colour coding is correct though, it's expecting film, it gets movie instead
05:08<stuarta>that was my though too :)
05:12<stuarta>thought even...
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10:22<gbee>o_cee: ping
10:22[~]GreyFoxx dives into libmysqld again
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10:23<gbee>and don't come out until your finished!
10:23<GreyFoxx>heh
10:25<o_cee>gbee: .. just got home (leave a pm if you want to be sure that i don't miss stuff :)
10:26<gbee>o_cee: sure, just updated the en_gb translation, wondered if I should commit it or whether you'd prefer a ticket/patch
10:26<o_cee>go ahead, but only the _gb files please
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10:42<gbee>laptop froze, twice
10:42<o_cee>:/
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10:49<Cardoe>stuarta: ping
10:49<stuarta>hello
10:49<stuarta>apologies for not being here over the weekend
10:50<Cardoe>stuarta: you said you had a patch for me for the stutter problem to try to test.
10:50<stuarta>erm, I was more actually interested in whether you saw the same symptoms
10:50<Cardoe>stuarta: oh
10:50<stuarta>the patch is "in production" (TM)
10:50<Cardoe>Well what are you experiencing..
10:51<Cardoe>production as in trunk or 0-20-fixes?
10:51<stuarta>s/in production/under development/
10:51<stuarta>ie. i haven't written it :)
10:51<stuarta>my experience, basically what i was talking to you about last week
10:51<stuarta>the frontnend drops audio frames to catch up,
10:52<stuarta>but drops too many when the content takes *most* of your cpu to decode
10:52<stuarta>and then has to drop video frames to catch up.
10:52<stuarta>and repeat....
10:53<Cardoe>yeah
10:53<Cardoe>I forgot we spoke. :-D
10:53<stuarta>hehe np.
10:53<Cardoe>stuarta: did you see that Gentoo bug I CC'd you on?
10:53<stuarta>do believe so, haven't had much of a chance to look at it.
10:54[~]stuarta digs in his mailbox
10:54<Cardoe>Alright. Not a big deal.
10:54<gbee>[Bug 168419] media-plugins/mytharchive bitrate broken w/ >=ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20061016
10:54<Cardoe>I'm not going to carry custom patches for Gentoo only.
10:54<Cardoe>gbee: that's it.
10:55<Cardoe>So I'm telling everyone to get the patches to you guys.
10:55<stuarta>i've seen talk of it on the -dev list
10:55<Cardoe>Basically ffmpeg changed the defaults on their flags..
10:55<gbee>well unless you cc'd both of us, you've got the wrong Stuart :)
10:55<Cardoe>gbee: wait. you're stuart too?
10:55<gbee>yeah
10:55<Cardoe>gbee: are you the one active on the Gentoo bugzilla?
10:56<gbee>well 'active' in that I replied to a single ticket :)
10:56<Cardoe>gbee: I assumed it was stuarta...
10:56<stuarta>:)
10:56<Cardoe>gbee: the nl mythfilldatabase thingy?
10:56<gbee>the ticket was referenced in a trac ticket
10:56<gbee>yep that's the one
10:56<Cardoe>yeah.
10:57<Cardoe>gbee: well thx.
10:57<Cardoe>But the mytharchive issue is solved on trunk
10:57<Cardoe>but needs to be backported to 0-20-fixes
10:57<Cardoe>it's actually really simple
10:57<Cardoe>previous ffmpeg's used to take -b 2000 and it assumed the bitrate would be in bytes
10:57<Cardoe>Now it defaults to kilobytes
10:58<Cardoe>The patch makes mytharchive spit out -b 2000b
10:58<Cardoe>So that ffmpeg knows that it's in bytes
10:58<gbee>probably is, but PaulH is the one to backport that - mytharchive is really his project
10:59<gbee>was there a ticket to go with that issue in trac? if not an email to the -dev list should get his attention
11:00<Cardoe>is "PaulH" his trac username?
11:00<gbee>yeah, Paul Harrison
11:01<Cardoe>I re-opened the ticket
11:02<Cardoe>saying it needs to be applied to 0-20-fixes as well
11:02<gbee>if Paul wasn't active at the moment I'd be happy to backport it, but probably best not to step on too many toes
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11:03<Chutt>i absolutely hate it when people reopen tickets insisting that things be backported.
11:04<Cardoe>Chutt: What do you want then? We all run latest svn trunk? ;)
11:04<Chutt>shouldn't that decision be up to the original committor?
11:04<Cardoe>Chutt: well mytharchive is utterly useless with newer ffmpeg's
11:04<Cardoe>Chutt: he can deny it if he wants.
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11:05<Chutt>patch it locally?
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11:05<Cardoe>The fact of the matter is that now mytharchive uses a bitrate in bytes rather than kilobytes, which means the program is useless since the quality is so poor.
11:05<Cardoe>Chutt: Shouldn't these fixes be passed back upstream so upstream knows about it.
11:06<Cardoe>I think you're being a bit unreasonable here.
11:06<Chutt>you need to reopen the ticket to do that?
11:06<Chutt>the original issue was fixed, no?
11:08<Cardoe>The original issue was fixed in trunk
11:08<Cardoe>not on 0-20-fixes
11:09<Cardoe>Which is suppose to be your "stable" version
11:09<Cardoe>trunk is suppose to be your development version.
11:09<Chutt>so the ticket needs to be reopened?
11:09<Cardoe>Having to hunt down patches from trunk to make the "stable" version actually stable is nuts.
11:09<Cardoe>Chutt: how else do you propose... the issue is not fixed.
11:10<Chutt>yeah, sucks when you actually have to do your maintainer work and not just pull from svn
11:10<Cardoe>A version of the product that you are shipping is still affected..
11:10<Cardoe>Chutt: What about users that don't use packaged up versions?
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11:10<Chutt><shrug>
11:10<Cardoe>It's a bit nuts to expect every maintainer to contain a custom patchset to make YOUR product work
11:11<Chutt>all i'm saying is that there are better ways to demand a backport.
11:11<Chutt> This issue needs to be re-opened since the patch needs to be backported to 0-20-fixes.
11:11<Cardoe>when a simple commit back to what YOU bill as stable fixes it.
11:11<Chutt>where was the word 'please' in there?
11:11<Cardoe>wow Chutt.
11:11<Cardoe>Welcome to the real world.
11:11<Chutt>all i see is a demand.
11:11<Cardoe>How you get by, I sometimes wonder.
11:11<Chutt>the real world, where people are polite?
11:11<Cardoe>It was a simple statement.
11:11<Cardoe>That the issue is still there.
11:12<Chutt>especially when asking for someone else to spend time on something?
11:12<gbee>ticket url in the emails is broken
11:12<Chutt>you were nice to the person who submitted the gentoo bug.
11:12<Chutt>gbee, i just noticed that, too =)
11:13<MoRpHeUz>Chutt: I read that the best approach for submitting a patch was to open a ticket but I see some people sending them to the dev-list ... may I keep using the trac to submit patches or is it better to send do dev-list ?
11:14<stuarta>MoRpHeUz: trac
11:14<Chutt>MoRpHeUz, if the patch is ready to commit, it's best on trac
11:14<MoRpHeUz>hhmm
11:14<MoRpHeUz>ok..
11:14<Chutt>if it's not, and you're looking for comments, then the dev list
11:14<MoRpHeUz>ok...
11:14<MoRpHeUz>some people are testing my patchs and as soon as they report bugs to me I correct them and send another version to trac..
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11:16<MoRpHeUz>thanks for the info
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11:19<CDev>Chutt: I'm getting ready to commit changes to libmythupnp (not the frontend changes). Is this something you still want me to run by the other developers? Or was it just the changes to the frontend that you wanted reviewed?
11:19<Chutt>CDev, just the frontend changes
11:19<CDev>fair enough.
11:20<Chutt>anyone have a ticket update pending?
11:20<CDev>Once I commit the upnp library, there should be enough there for you to use in the dbserver for auto discovery.
11:21<CDev>Chutt: sorry can't help, I'm a few hours away from committing.
11:21<Chutt>ah well, one more update to #1 won't hurt anything
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11:22<stuarta>erm i've got one I can do...
11:22<Chutt>i just hit #1
11:22<stuarta>no worries.
11:23<Chutt>well, mostly fixed.
11:23<Chutt>doesn't look like trac will do a separate url for the ticket and project anymore
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11:24<celston>Anyone know anything about the ReadAheadThread in RingBuffer?
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11:27<celston>I'll go ahead and describe what I'm seeing anyway, just in case the symptoms are familiar.
11:29<celston>If I turn on PiP, and repeatedly swap the PiP and main, eventually the ReadAheadThread for one of the buffers stops. It doesn't exit, it just seems like it stops doing the safe_reads.
11:29<celston>So there's no more data to be read from the buffer, and the main video goes blank.
11:30<stuarta>sounds like a deadlock, you'll need to do some debugging section 22.2 of the howto
11:30<stuarta>on that note i have to run away.
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11:30<celston>thx
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11:37<jchapman>Chutt, do you have more info on the embedded-mysql work?
11:37<Chutt>in a bit, on a conference call right now
11:37<jchapman>ack
11:39<GreyFoxx>jchapman: I was playing around with it a while back, just on a call right now
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11:59<GreyFoxx>jchapman: I've compiled up the libmysqld library and then compiled QT3's mysql plugin against it instead of libmysqlclient, and while that compiles happily, there is still QT condition not being met as QT is not considering the mysql plugin to be available when we try to actually use it
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12:00<GreyFoxx>I've dug through the QT code trying to find out what precisely it doesn't like about it but so far have gotten nowhere useful
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12:00<gbee>was the 'current picture' problem sorted? want to know if I can safely remove my local fix
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12:01<jchapman>GreyFoxx: is it still using the previous plugin?
12:02<GreyFoxx>jchapman: No, the plugin isn't passing some internal test and isn't being added to the list of available plugins when we try to load it
12:03<GreyFoxx>I'm just compiled a new copy on this box to play with since my last bit was on a VM that I don't have handy
12:03<jchapman>is it listed in the set of valid sql plugins?
12:03<GreyFoxx>No
12:04<jchapman>I had to modify my configure and qmake files to have it pick up my new plugin
12:04<GreyFoxx>In this case it's not a new plugin, just the existing code compiled against the different library
12:04<jchapman>ah right
12:05<jchapman>make install?
12:05<GreyFoxx>yup
12:05<GreyFoxx>hold on, I'll pull of the section that it's not passing
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12:12<GreyFoxx>src/sql/qsqldatabase.cpp : QSqlDatabase::drivers() when it calls QPluginManager manager to return a list of availabel plugins the mysql plugin isn't listed when compiled against libmysqld
12:12<GreyFoxx>some internal check in QPluginManager is failing on the plugin and so far I haven't tracked it down
12:12<janneg>gbee: yes, it was a infinete loop in avformatdecoder triggered by decoding errors in streams with subtitles
12:13<jchapman>GreyFoxx, nothing jumps out. At this point, I bring gdb out
12:13<janneg>that's the reason I heven't seen the error
12:13<gbee>janneg: thanks, I wasn't paying enough attention to the commits
12:13<GreyFoxx>jchapman: I spent some time off and on combing through it but nothing has jumped up
12:14<GreyFoxx>I can accept a failure to connect errror, but in this case it's failing to even see the plugin
12:14<janneg>np. the fix is a couple of weeks old
12:15<GreyFoxx>If you see anything I'm more than willing to test it
12:15<gbee>GreyFoxx: not one of those problems that is so obvious that you can't see it for looking? i.e. plugin isn't in the right directory etc?
12:15<GreyFoxx>gbee: Nope non of that
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12:16<gbee>:(
12:16<GreyFoxx>and I can see that qt was loading the plugin to initialize it, but it failed some sort of internal check when placing it into the internal libary
12:16<GreyFoxx>but it was layer upon layer upon layer of clasess calling classes and my eyes were getting buggy just looking at it :)
12:16<jchapman>GreyFoxx, I'll spend a few mins single stepping to see if I can get a feel for what it checks
12:16<GreyFoxx>jchapman: Sweet :)
12:17<GreyFoxx>You'll probably have it done in 5 minutes :) hehe
12:18<GreyFoxx>I haven't gone back to it in a bit so hopefully a fresh pair of eyes will see what I missed
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12:38<jchapman>GreyFoxx, something very strange - gdb isn;t hitting that func for me, yet I'm single stepping through the sql plugin
12:39<CharlieSu>anyone know of a package that will allow transcoding for V4L from mythweb?
12:39<jchapman>unfortunately I need to leave now. I'll try to revisit it later.
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12:40<gbee>CharlieSu: try #mythtv-users
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13:16<Chutt>janneg, thanks for testing that.
13:23<Chutt>anyone seen any other issues with trac?
13:30<gbee>rss feeds aren't working properly in firefox, but that's not something in your control :)
13:35<gbee>thought this version allowed the different ticket properties
13:35<Chutt>if we update the db schema
13:35<gbee>to be hidden from anon users
13:35[~]gbee hit return too early
13:36<Chutt>i dunno
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13:48<janneg>Chutt: no problem
13:51<janneg>it might make sense to change the owner of 'mythtv' tickets to 'unassigned'
13:51<Chutt>that's a possibility
13:56<o_cee>what's new in trac? rss looks better now, showing names instead of emails
13:57<Chutt>just a newer version
13:57<Chutt>i didn't go through the whole changelog
13:57<o_cee>running the stable version at work
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14:01<janneg>Chutt: it's your call. we all know that's ok to grab almost all tickets assigned to you but to ticket reporters it would be clearer
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14:01<gbee>found my problem with the rss - the <link> element points to "/trac/ticket/2992" instead of "http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2992"
14:02<Chutt>gbee, could that have been fixed after I fixed the email links?
14:02<o_cee>Chutt: okay to commit?
14:02<Chutt>o_cee, certainly.
14:02<o_cee>Chutt: mkay :)
14:02<janneg>plus your ticket list might become usable after some time
14:02<gbee>wasn't working before or after - seems to be something they've changed
14:03<Chutt>which rss is that?
14:03<gbee>http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/report/7?format=rss&USER=stuartm
14:04<gbee>I'm comparing the output against my 0.10dev install
14:06<Chutt>heh
14:06<Chutt>i dunno :(
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14:07<gbee>not that important, just annoying
14:10<janneg>Chutt: Does any qt version have problems with QString::fromUtf8(QString::null)?
14:10<Chutt>i have no idea
14:10<Chutt>never heard of one before now
14:12<janneg>tv_play has many occurances of "QString test = query.toString(); if (test != QString::null) blah = QString::fromUtf8(test);"
14:13<janneg>I can't imagine that a string function is not NULL pointer safe and I haven't found any indication in a web search
14:16<gnome42>janneg: nice livetv_startchan patch, more -'s than +'s and it works well! :)
14:17<gnome42>I have another livetv related patch in the queue (#3149) if you have any free cycles to review/include in your livetv testing.
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14:28<gnome42>Chutt: I see one small difference in trac, hitting 'Browse Source' then 'Revision Log' takes me to ...tv.org/trac/log/?rev=12942 instead of just .../trac/log (which would always give the latest log)
14:29<gnome42>Chutt: no biggie, or anything :)
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14:47<MoRpHeUz>CDev: just updated the patch...
14:47<MoRpHeUz>=)
14:47<CDev>MoRpHeUz: I'll take a look once I'm done with my current changes.
14:48<MoRpHeUz>CDev: that's ok! =) dont worry !
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14:54<Chutt>hrmph
14:55<Chutt>i can't fix the ticketdeleteplugin
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15:12<gbee>http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/1114 :(
15:12<Chutt>right
15:12<Chutt>i got it well past that error, though
15:13<Chutt>it just doesn't work, at least for deleting individual entries.
15:13<Chutt>i didn't try deleting a whole ticket.
15:16<janneg>gnome42: yeah, got rid of three direct database access functions in the frontend
15:16<gbee>which version are you using? there is a 0.11 branch of the plugin?
15:16<Chutt>the 0.11 branch doesn't work
15:17<Chutt>it's not been updated in a long time
15:17<gbee>oh well
15:18<Chutt>yup
15:18<Chutt>i can always revert back to 0.10
15:18<Chutt>there weren't any db changes
15:18<janneg>gnome42: .../log/?rev=12942 was there before the last trac update
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15:24<gbee>the plugin is only 200 lines, I may take a look at fixing it
15:25<Chutt>plugin + new template system
15:25<stuarta>ah the price of development :)
15:29<gbee>the 0.11 branch has already done most of the template conversion
15:31<Chutt>the template in the delete plugin
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15:35<gbee>yeah the 0.11 branch of the delete plugin
15:38<Chutt>there's bugs in it
15:38<Chutt>(the conversion) =)
15:39<gbee>better than starting the conversion from scratch (well unless it was done extremely badly in the first place)
15:41<gbee>anyway, I'll take a look - might decide I can't be bothered before I get very far ;)
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15:59[~]Captain_Murdoch sends out a warning about MySQL v3.x support being dropped after 0.21 in response to the hijacked thread questioning dropping such support.
15:59<gbee>any likelyhood of the mysql 3.23 decision being rethought?
15:59[~]Captain_Murdoch wonders if gbee just read his post.
15:59<gbee>was just reading that
15:59<stuarta>still got another 90 msgs to go :(
16:00<Captain_Murdoch>I asked the developers and none had an issue with it. we keep having to rewrite queries/patches to maintain 3.23 support and it's ancient.
16:00<gbee>I ask only because I've got a ticket which would be a lot easier to close if we didn't hold out until after 3.23
16:00<Captain_Murdoch>oh, you want sooner. :)
16:00<gbee>yeah ;)
16:01<stuarta>given mysql4 is barely on mysql.com's radar
16:01<Captain_Murdoch>probably Chutt's call on that.
16:01<Captain_Murdoch>big issue is getting thigns like multi-table update statements and subqueries, etc.. :)
16:01<gbee>I was ok with the decision, until I started having to re-write patches for mythmusic etc to work with 3.23
16:05<gbee>it all seems a little futile considering that once 0.21 was out I'd only be going back and changing them back to use subqueries etc
16:12<MoRpHeUz>Captain_Murdoch: hi! =)
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