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02:18<Solv>building from svn i get this: ERROR! You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile MythTV.
02:18<Solv>If you think configure made a mistake, make sure you are using the latest version from SVN.
02:19<Solv>Does this mean the latest lame version or the latest myth version?
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04:37<kormoc>Chutt, When you have a minute (I'm assuming you are using mythweb-trunk), can you try out [16180] and see if it fixes your popup positioning?
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05:27<gbee>aac decoding not enabled by default? What configure args do I need?
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05:58<gbee> 2008-02-20 10:57:52.049 AFD: No codec for stream index 1, type(Audio) id(AAC:86018)
06:00<gbee>WARNING! --enable-faad will be removed, use --enable-libfaad << What's wrong with ffmpegs implementation?
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06:47<cesman>gbee: how are the colour packs support to work w/ metallurgy?
06:49<gbee>cesman: right now it requires that you extract the files into the metallurgy directory overwriting the existing images
06:50<gbee>I know that's a little clumsy for distros, so it might mean creating 4 different versions, metallurgy-red, metallurgy-blue etc
06:51<cesman>ok thanks
06:51<gbee>in the long term I want to change myth to support different colour schemes for the same theme, so you can change the colour from the settings
06:51<cesman>good idea
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08:03<gbee>can ffplay seek within matroska?
08:06<janneg>gbee: libavcodec has no aac decoder but might get one in the next weeks/months
08:07<gbee>janneg: odd, could have sworn that an aac decoder was added a few months ago
08:08<gbee>well that explains it anyway, thanks
08:09<janneg>it was worked on during last year's SoC but not finished
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08:10<gbee>janneg: ok, guess I got my wires crossed
08:12<gbee>is there any reason configure args like --enable-libfaad and the other useful ffmpeg stuff don't appear in the --help output?
08:13<janneg>don't ask me. they were commented since I started looking at configure
08:14<janneg>oops, aac was already 2006
08:30<GreyFoxx>gbee: Yes ffplay can seek in them
08:30<GreyFoxx>and mp4 files
08:30<GreyFoxx>both of which we kinda freak out on :)
08:31<gbee>GreyFoxx: ok, just checking since I wasn't sure if the ticket talking about seeking was a genuine bug or a feature request
08:32<GreyFoxx>If you seek backward in an mp4 within the first say 5 seconds it's fine
08:33<GreyFoxx>if you see forward, or backward after the first seveal seconds it kinda flips out
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08:34<gbee>yeah, can see that now, founds some samples on the matroska website - play fine, but try ffw/rew and it's not pretty
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08:39<gbee>interesting that one of the samples I've downloaded, HD h.264 with aac audio, worked when I didn't have aac decoding but now that it's trying to play the audio it doesn't work at all
08:40<GreyFoxx>I've encoded a couple of dvd ripped moves and tv eps to h264 mp4 files and mkv's to try and get this working properly
08:40<GreyFoxx>all have the same behaviour
08:43<GreyFoxx>gbee: Ever notice how non recordings will often start playing a couple seconds into the actually video? If you jumpback it will go to the proper start ?
08:44<gbee>GreyFoxx: no, but then I don't want many non recordings and probably wouldn't notice if I missed two seconds
08:44<GreyFoxx>I've got many that start on average 5-7 seconds in
08:45<GreyFoxx>and the OSD reports that it's at the 0 second
08:45<gbee>hmm
08:45<GreyFoxx>I have 1 that starts 12 seconds in
08:45<gbee>I'll take a look, see if anything obvious stands out
08:47<gbee>err, this will do it: 2008-02-20 13:45:53.179 AFD: DoFastForward(182 (1), do discard frames)
08:47<gbee>we're seeking forward at the start of playback
08:49*GreyFoxx goes a hunting for which call to DoFF that is
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09:13<GreyFoxx>gbee: Hmmm I'm not seeing that logged at video startup with a -v most
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09:14<gbee>happens for at least one file here which also shows the problem with us starting a few seconds in, may be a red herring but I'll check it out anyway
09:21<GreyFoxx>I'll test it on the one at home that has the worst problem. Maybe it's just the test files I have here that don;'t exhibit it
09:28<gbee>trac is down :/
09:28<gbee>well, the whole server really
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09:39<GreyFoxx>no DoFF's in my log... until I manually hit fastward/rewind
09:41<gbee>interesting, see them reliably with a couple of h.264 test samples
09:42<GreyFoxx>if I hit Rewind immediately the DoFF log entry does show that framesPlayed is like a hundred or so
09:42<gbee>I've put in some debugging statements to work out exactly where they come from
09:42<GreyFoxx>I'm using my worst one now for tests which is avi/xvid
09:48<gbee>all of the samples I've now tried which are listed in ticket #4419 work with the internal player
09:54<gbee>GreyFoxx: could you just check if "DELETE FROM filemarkup WHERE type='2';" makes any difference?
09:55<GreyFoxx>I'll try it, though I'm seeing it on seperate systems including a virgin one
09:58<gbee>ok, only reason I even mention it is that I noticed one of the samples I was using had a bookmark - deleting them fixed the problem
09:58<GreyFoxx>ok, trying again , I had 2 filemarkup entries, both pointing to offset null in there
09:58<GreyFoxx>and neigther is for this file
09:59<GreyFoxx>same problem :/
09:59<gbee>the other issue is that we're discarding the first frame, which might explain the problem as well, without the first keyframe we might seek to the next one before starting playback
09:59<GreyFoxx>that's kinda what I was thinking
10:01<janneg>is the svn server not responding or slow to anyone else
10:03<gbee>janneg: been dead for the last 30 minutes
10:05<janneg>ssh to cvs.mythtv.org seems to be dead
10:06<GreyFoxx>gbee: where in the code are we discarding the first frame ?
10:16<gbee>GreyFoxx: not sure, thought I knew for a minute but I can't find it
10:18<gbee>the symptoms still fit - even when we start at the beginning on these h.264 files it's definately missing the first keyframe
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11:15<Cardoe>svn is dead right?
11:16<Chutt>server down
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11:47<systemloc>I've got mythtv working. I've got lirc working. I've even got them working together! I have mythvideo working. I have xine setup for certain video files in MythVideo. I have the keymaps customized and verified that the keys worked correctly with my keyboard in X. However, xine doesn't respond to my remote, via lirc. Umm
11:48<laga_>systemloc: #mythtv-users
11:48<systemloc>laga_: ahh, sorry. I parted and re-joined the wrong channel. Sorry about that. x.x
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11:49<Cardoe>Chutt: just wanted to make sure it wasn't my connection
11:50<Chutt>trac was apparently killing apache
11:50<Chutt>OOM'd the box
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12:39<Chutt>trac's apache config had lost the 'MaxRequestsPerChild' setting
12:39<Chutt>i've restored that - hopefully it'll prevent issues in the futurte
12:39<Chutt>err, future
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13:03<gbee>http://pastebin.ca/911390 << Any theories? FFplay has no problem
13:06<Chutt>--verbose audio?
13:09<gbee>http://pastebin.ca/911411
13:09<Chutt>yeah, dunno
13:09<Chutt>sorry =)
13:10<gbee>heh, np
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13:47<GreyFoxx>gbee: you still around ?
13:51<gbee>GreyFoxx: back now
13:53<GreyFoxx>http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/startup.diff
13:53<GreyFoxx>That's what I'm using to force us to the start of the file for video playback only
13:54<GreyFoxx>and it doesn't harm bookmarks
13:54<GreyFoxx>bookmark skipping happens later
13:54<gbee>yeah
13:54<GreyFoxx>so basically I force a skip to frame 0 no matter what, and leter bookmark stuff is accounted for
13:55<gbee>yep
13:55<GreyFoxx>no dvd's or recordings to test it on, but since I'm only doing it if it's a video it should be fine
13:55<gbee>I'm still trying to find out why we aren't starting at the beginning because I like solving little mysteries like that
13:55<GreyFoxx>me too
13:56<gbee>but I think that's an acceptable solution for the short term - e.g. 0.21
13:56<GreyFoxx>but after a couple hours I said screw it and am now cheating :)
13:56<GreyFoxx>yeah
13:56<GreyFoxx>longterm I'd love to fix it, along with the seeking
13:56<GreyFoxx>now seeking is top of my list
13:57<gbee>just looking at ringbuffer::peek() atm, wondering if the seek(0) call in there isn't working so we don't start decoding from the beginning of the file
13:57<GreyFoxx>I wont commit anything until after your investigation :)
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14:44<gbee>heh, report on The Register which just shows up IPTV for the naked Emperor that it is
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14:48<xris>interesting.. vpn software kicks me offline/online every time I connect. annoying.
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14:51<commander-ape>hi. is someone using a technotrend c-1500 budget card with his mythtv configuration?
14:51<kormoc>commander-ape, please see the topic
14:51<commander-ape>uh
14:51<commander-ape>sorry
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15:31<gbee>GreyFoxx: not making much progress on this ... seems to me like the ringbuffer read position is being moved before we start playback, but I can't work out where it's happening, throwing some ringbuffer->Reset()s at the problem doesn't seem to help (readpos ends up overflowing!?)
15:31<GreyFoxx>crazy
15:33<gbee>think the problem may be with avformatdecoder opening the ringbuffer to determine codecs etc, but I'm not making any headway
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15:53<GreyFoxx>gbee: a point of interest. With my seek to frame 0 patch it plays from the beginning, BUT if I build a seektable it starts at EXACTLY the same position as without the patch. If I wipe the filemarkup table it goes back to starting at frame 0 again
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15:53<GreyFoxx>And my commflagg: Only seems to find 3 points to log into filemarkup out of the whole file
15:55<gbee>GreyFoxx: the seektable bahaviour fits with my theory (which I've just confirmed)
15:57<gbee>AVFormatDecoder::OpenFile() is moving readpos, but we don't actually start playing the video until a little later - AVFormatDecoder should be reseting the read pointer after determining the basic file info such as codec etc
15:59<GreyFoxx>ahhh
16:01<gbee>still don't have a complete understanding of what is happening, so a fix may take a little longer
16:01<GreyFoxx>yeah, but it's interesting (if not just frustrating) trying to figure out how this stuff all comes into play :)
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16:17<gbee>could be wrong, but the reason Ringbuffer::Reset() wasn't working is because it doesn't reset the read pointer just our own understanding of where the pointer is, so we then end up out of sync
16:20<Cardoe>danielk22: around?
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17:38<janneg>AMD released its performance library (contains a h.264) under apache 2.0 license http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjM0MQ
17:42<gbee>interesting
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17:49<gbee>guess we'll have to wait and see if their library offers anything that ffmpeg might benefit from
17:54<janneg>it is not a complete decoder but has optimized versions of many functions needed for a decoder. no CABAC though
17:58<gbee>GreyFoxx: giving up on solving this problem the right way, might need someone more familiar with avformatdecoder to take a look
17:59<janneg>gbee: I won't have time before next tuesday
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18:02<gbee>janneg: I wasn't looking for anyone to volunteer right now, but if you want to take a look then that would be great - no real hurry, Greyfoxx has a workaround which works for now
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19:15<Chutt>huh
19:15<Chutt>mythweb tain't workin
19:16<Chutt>asking to open '/tv/' as type 'application/json'
19:16<xris>hah
19:16<xris>blame kormoc?
19:16<Chutt>ok
19:16<Chutt>the /tv/listings/ path works
19:16<Chutt>kormoc, i'm blaming you
19:17<xris>:)
19:17<Chutt>also, the 'requests pending' popup's a little... green and stand-out-ish for when you're just moving your mouse over the page =)
19:18<xris>what res screen?
19:18<xris>also, are you fully up to date with svn?
19:18*kormoc blinks
19:18<Chutt>about a day back
19:19<kormoc>Chutt, I think I fixed the position bug last night if you want to update and take a look
19:19<Chutt>ah, cool
19:19<kormoc>Whoops, I did indeed break /tv
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19:20<xris>heh
19:20<kormoc>I'll fix that up tonight
19:20<xris>kormoc: btw, 475-550ms for get_show_details while remote
19:20<xris>still pretty slick
19:20<Chutt>the positioning's definitely better
19:21<Chutt>but it seems to be _way_ too the left of where you'd think
19:21<kormoc>Chutt, what browser and version?
19:21<Chutt>konq, 3.5.8
19:21<kormoc>Kk, I'll poke with that specific one a bit tonight and see if I can see what's up
19:21<Chutt>it's ok, it's just putting the corner of the box at the mouse position, it looks like?
19:22<kormoc>Aye, it is
19:22<Chutt>so, you mouse-over a show on the right side of the screen, and you have to look back to the middle to see the box
19:22<Chutt>but at least everything's on screen now
19:22<kormoc>What would your preferred location be?
19:23<Chutt>more to the right =)
19:23<Chutt>i dunno
19:23<Chutt>just felt odd
19:23<Chutt>doesn't have to be fixed
19:23<Chutt>is the margin on the right side larger now?
19:24<kormoc>Yeah, I'm not overly a fan, but it's a very easy way to make sure it's fully visible
19:24<kormoc>hrm
19:24<kormoc>Shouldn't have changed any
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21:55<Hannibal->do you guys need anymore backtraces for ticket #4635 - mythfrontend segault switching tuner cards? because i can reproduce that issue almost on demand.
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22:17<CDev>GreyFoxx: Are you planning on allowing the browsing/searching of Video or Recordings to be configurable for .21?
22:18<CDev>I just pulled down the .21 fixes branch and WMP11 doesn't show anything since it only looks for videos now. (will be confusing to users who have come to expect recordings to show up)
22:18<GreyFoxx>Actually yes, I intended it to be configurable. I thought I had commited that change too
22:19<GreyFoxx>Actually yes, I intended it to be configurable. I thought I had commited that change tooIt's suppose to default to recordings like before, but be togglable with a DB switch
22:19<GreyFoxx>and was thinking at somepoint making a "upnp" setup screen for the tweakable upnp settigns
22:20<GreyFoxx>I'll get the switch commited tomorrow morning defaulting back to recordings
22:21<CDev>np. A setup screen is long overdue. I was thinking a few months back that it would be the first Web page based setup screen I was going to do (wanted to expand the httpserver in the backend to serve up setup pages). But real life got in the way of my plans.
22:21<GreyFoxx>hehe
22:21<GreyFoxx>I've got some other stuff to commit post 0.21 as well. Added a new GetScreenShot option to the frontend
22:21<GreyFoxx>you can take a snap of the current window , resize etc
22:22<CDev>followed your comments in irc. looks like a cool method.
22:23<CDev>Do you know if people are having problems with the PS3 and upnp?
22:23<CDev>besides codec issues?
22:23<GreyFoxx>yeah, supposedly sme are having playback issues
22:23<GreyFoxx>1 person has told me that he has problems navigating the video directories
22:24<GreyFoxx>I'm planning on renting a Ps3 this weekend to try it out myself
22:24<GreyFoxx> I know for sure there is something up with dsm-320 playback
22:24<CDev>If I can find a few spare minutes, I may fire up my ps3 to see what state things are in.
22:24<CDev>The dsm-320 issue is for divix playback...right?
22:24<GreyFoxx>with my dads dsm-320 I canplay recordings, but if I play a video I get and error
22:24<GreyFoxx>yeah
22:24<GreyFoxx>I couldn't track it down before I had to return it
22:25<CDev>I guess I need to add some videos to see how things work.
22:25<GreyFoxx>xvid/divx playback has worked on all the players I've tried except for the dsm-320
22:25<GreyFoxx>so it's gotta be dsm specific
22:26<CDev>Do you filter the types of files scanned for videos? My video directory points to 400+ DVD's and all files .IFO, .VOB, folder.jpg, .BUP, ... show up.
22:27<CDev>Is that expected?
22:27<GreyFoxx>Yeah, I leave it to the player to ignore what it doesn't want
22:28<GreyFoxx>my xbox for exampe doesn't even show me mpg, mov and such
22:28<CDev>Ah.. ok, just an FYI: WMP11 hangs after requestion over 3000 files.
22:28<GreyFoxx>ahhh, I've got 2800, hadn't hit that limit
22:29<CDev>Don't know if it's a real limit. Just noticed it hang when I tried to browse before I set it back to Recordings.
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22:32<CDev>Well, my ps3 seems to be working ok.
22:32<GreyFoxx>dir: was pparently having troubles with the directory navigation but I never got much detail from him
22:33<CDev>I don't have any Videos, but the DVD directories are completely usable and recordings play fine./.
22:33<CDev>my directories are only 2 levels deep, but it seems to be working fine. (I'll have to put a video in one of them to see if it can play it)
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22:34<GreyFoxx>ok
22:35<CDev>Interesting... Intel AV Media Controller app is throwing an exception when accessing the videos. So there may be a real problem.
22:37<GreyFoxx>gotta go tuck my little one in :)
22:40<CDev>GreyFoxx: When you get back... It looks like you ParentId's are wrong for video subdirectories.
22:40<Hannibal->this is hot. my wife is flipping channels upstairs, and it's making myth freak out downstairs and i'm in the middle of watching something and bounces to another station with no indication.
22:44<MrGandalf>nice
22:55<CDev>GreyFoxx: http://www.theblains.com/videocds.jpg
22:56<CDev>The parentId should match exactly the Id of the parent node.
22:56<Hannibal->it's actually horrible, because my wife is this constant channel flipper - she watches like 3-4 shows at once ;-)
22:56<Hannibal->not even sure how to capture this to report it.
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23:00<CDev>GreyFoxx: Also, The childCount is wrong two different ways. VideoRoot's childCounts should not be recursive (sb 429, not 5868)
23:02<CDev>and the "The Holiday_" childCount should be 2 not 0. And VIDEO_TS's childCount sb 9 not 0... you get the idea.
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23:12<GreyFoxx>Actually I have a fix for the childcount stuff alerady
23:12<CDev>The real problem is the parentId issue.
23:13<GreyFoxx>but as for the ID, so the parentID of the Holidays VIDEO_TS should be set to Videos/0/item?id=104883 and not just 104883 ?
23:13<GreyFoxx>That shouldn't be too rough
23:13<CDev>yes.
23:13<GreyFoxx>ok, I'll do all 3 of those up in the morning
23:13<CDev>and the parentId of each item needs to be changed as well.
23:14<GreyFoxx>how do you mean?
23:15<GreyFoxx>I'll change all parentId's to include the full Video/0/item etc etc
23:15<CDev>The first item: in the list "VTS_01_5.VOB"... it's parentId should be: Videos/0/item?Id=104885
23:15<CDev>yes
23:15<GreyFoxx>yup
23:15<GreyFoxx>Is that the intel AV tools you are using in that screenshot ?
23:16<GreyFoxx>Kinda sucks that there seems to be NO upnp tools or apps of any sort for OSX
23:16<CDev>No. It's a test program I threw together (c#) Really rough.
23:16<GreyFoxx>looks handy hehe
23:16<CDev>Was really easy to put together (but it does rely on Windows upnp stack for the heavy lifting)
23:17<GreyFoxx>out one Windows box is currently toast. Laptop is broken:) So all I have is a vm of vista for testing WMP11 :)
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23:18<GreyFoxx>My boss wanted the video and albumart so he gave me a license for it heh
23:18<CDev>I shouldn't admit it, but most of my boxes are windows... only a few Linux for MythTv.
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23:19<GreyFoxx>You use what you find most useful, popularity is irrelevant :)
23:19<CDev>It's what I make a living at... hard not to use it for everything else.
23:20<GreyFoxx>same here cept *nix is where I make my money :)
23:20<GreyFoxx>and I don't play games, so Windows has little appeal to me
23:20<CDev>Have to admit, MythTv development gave me a crash course in Linux a few years back.
23:20<GreyFoxx>hehe
23:21<CDev>I like the openness (is that a word), But I do miss a lot of the development tools and libraries that windows offers.
23:21<GreyFoxx>I wouldn't mind windows so much if it didn't "get in my way" so much, and make really troubleshooting bloody impossible with out $$$$ tools
23:22<CDev>I've always had the $$$$ tools due to my job... make debugging/developing much easier. Although the new express editions of visual studios are pretty good for being free.
23:23<GreyFoxx>SQL express and studio express are nice for some things and make warezing less likely for small developers :)
23:23<CDev>either way, I now know how to develop in both... guess that is a good thing.
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23:24<CDev>Getting late, got to go. Have a good night.
23:24<GreyFoxx>night :)
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