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02:23<dburr_work>I'm trying to track down a problem with frame dropping and I seem to have got lost. In VideoOutputXv::CreatePauseFrame there is a call to init(), but I can't find it defined in VideoOutputXv or VideoOutput. Does anyone know where it is defined?
02:27<dburr_work>Hmm... seems to come through frame.h
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09:44<dburr_work>Does anyone know what the units for the 'sync_delay' argument to the WaitForFrame methods in vsync is? ms, us or number of frames?
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09:45<dburr_work>Seems to be microseconds, never mind
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11:10<Chutt>gbee, some thoughts:
11:10<Chutt>i'd really like to see a busy 'popup', just an animated indicator/etc
11:10<Chutt>separate screen stack, possibly, mostly transparent
11:11<Chutt>no text, just something moving + obvious for to indicate
11:11<Chutt>(small animated areas will work fine with the qt painter, so it's not limited to opengl)
11:12<gbee>I was going to create a busy popup and a progress popup, both largely defined by the theme so it could be positioned anyway, use an animated image and whatever background (transparent or otherwise) that the themer wants
11:12<Chutt>cool.
11:12<Chutt>yeah, it could easily be done theme specific
11:12<Chutt>neat
11:13<Chutt>so the theme's busy popup could just be an animated circle or whatever in the middle of the screen =)
11:13<Chutt>cuz i was wanting to do something similar for like going into the watch recordings screen/etc.
11:13<gbee>progress popup could, optionally use the progress bar widget, but it might also just use a textarea showing % complete, so it could be pushed off to the corner of the screen if the themer wants etc - I'd allow widgets in both to be optional
11:13<gbee>yeah
11:14<Chutt>what were you thinking for combo boxes in settings?
11:14<gbee>Mythnews uses a busy popup which I've had to disable for now, but I was going to create the mythui version this weekend if I get time
11:14<Chutt>since apparently mythnews needs one
11:15<Chutt>the 'easy' way to do it is like in the recording setup screen
11:15<gbee>Chutt: originally I was thinking of using mythlistbutton somehow - but I'm not too sure
11:15<Chutt>where there's left/right arrows and hitting left/right selects the next entry
11:16<Chutt>i think it'd be neat to have that, then if you hit enter, show a mythlistbutton popup with all the entries =)
11:16<gbee>a horizontal listbutton would mimic the recording setup screen easily enough (one column wide)
11:16<Chutt>ooh, good point
11:17<Chutt>and it'd even handle selection status
11:18<gbee>the spinbox in mythnews is slightly different, it could easily have a thousand items in the list (it's used for the timeout in seconds), I'm thinking of subclassing mythlistbutton or modifying it so that new items are added/removed on the fly instead of actually have a list that long
11:19<Chutt>makes sense
11:20<Chutt>erk, gotta go. later =)
11:20<gbee>anything to keep the number of widgets low and as flexible as possible because that just makes theming and maintenance easier
11:20<gbee>cya
11:20<Chutt>yeah
11:21<Chutt>i like the approach =)
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12:28<mdd>hey. is there documentation online for using the python bindings? or programming against the mythtv libs in common?
12:31<mdd>ah, i just built the doxygen docs. this is at least something. any other place to look at?
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12:35<axod>hi is it possible to get a dvd jukebox install without all the rest?
12:36<axod>all I want is something to play dvds from a network drive :/
12:36<Anduin>axod: you want #mythtv-users
12:36<axod>ah sorry I forgot about that
12:36<axod>thanks
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13:20<anykey_>Is the main menu already converted to MythUI?
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13:33<^Willie^>morning
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14:26<janneg>Anduin: thanks
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14:38<gbee>anykey_: not properly, it use mythui widgets but indirectly through a layer of code which mimics the old menu behaviour
14:39<gbee>I did re-write it to use mythui directly but I fouled it up and had to start again (easier than replacing the bits I'd deleted mistakenly)
14:42<anykey_>hm ok, I'll wait for my extension then
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14:45<Piffer>anyone here using Silicon Dust HDHomeRun?
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14:46<janneg>gbee: I haven't invastigated further. do you know why mythmainwindow includes mythdialog?
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14:49<gbee>janneg: no ... I'll have a look
14:50<janneg>it's not important that, the biggest part of making mythui qt3support free is mythsocket
14:51<gbee>janneg: ok, I remember now - it's there to let the old code work side by side with mythui for now
14:51<janneg>I did a quick port to QTcpSocket, but it wasn't working reliable
14:52<gbee>since they handle keypresses etc differently we check whether the window is mythdialog or mythui etc
14:53<gbee>we have to post an escape keypress to mythdialogs to exit from them for jumppoints, that sort of thing
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14:55<gbee>the media event handling code has some special case stuff for mythdialog, in fact it looks like it currently only works with mythdialogs
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14:56<janneg>so we have either make the old code qt3 support free or have to wait until the mythui port is complete
14:57<janneg>I had hoped we could left the old ui code untouched
15:03<gbee>I can't think of a way around it at the moment
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15:14<gbee>I've just tried disabling the two uses of mythdialog in mythmainwindow and nothing major seems to break
15:15<gbee>ok so media handling would be broken for a while and I guess jumppoints from mythdialogs might be as well, but I don't consider either of those to be big issues for the unstable branch
15:17<gbee>I might be missing something though, because I've never really had a grasp on what ExitToMainMenu is there for
15:19<gbee>nope, even jumppoints work, so I'm not really sure what the real impact of removing that code is
15:20<gbee>I've removed mythdialogs.h from mythmainwindow with no ill effect
15:20<janneg>ok, I'll trying to replace mythsocket with QTcpSocket
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17:35<purserj>hmm let's see if myth trunk builds this morning
17:42<purserj>nope
17:42<purserj>dies
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17:47<purserj>anyone awake?
17:48<purserj>before I submit a ticket, could someone have a look at this and tell me if you think I've done something wrong: http://pastebin.ca/973042
17:53<superm1_>in mythbackend.log there are indications of "2008-04-05 15:29:07.973 FireDev(001CEA6166A20000): The Scientific Atlanta 4250 HDC is not supported by any MythTV Firewire channel changer.At the moment you must use an IR blaster." Yet it does work for my 4240HDC, is the correct bug to file that the 4240 works, or that someone forgot to take that warning out on the 4250?
17:59<gbee>purserj: make clean
17:59<gbee>re-run configure
18:01<danielk22>superm: I added support for that STB and was then told it didn't work, hence the warning. Please create a ticket with the info you just posted and I'll update or remove that message as appropriate.
18:03<purserj>done and done/win 28
18:03<purserj>sigh
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18:11<superm1_>danielk22, okay
18:12<superm1_>danielk22, since you were the one that added the support for it, would you have anything to comment regarding external primers? Should they still really be necessary to get the box ready, or will myth handle a majority internally? (I'm fighting with this box right now and getting a lot of mixed behavior)
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18:35<j-rod>Chutt: licensing question... is mythtv officially GPLv2 only, or GPLv2 or later? (at least, the core bits...)
18:39<purserj>gbee: thanks that worked, now to see how mythnews is going
18:40<gbee>purserj: shouldn't appear much different, just modified the existing theme enough to work with mythui - so it's still ugly :)
18:41<purserj>heh
18:41<purserj>so long as I can select articles I'll be happy
18:41<j-rod>nm, gotta be gplv2+, based on some files in libs/libmythtv/..
18:42<gbee>purserj: well that was working last night so it should be fine for you
18:43<purserj>thanks for that
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18:50<gbee>anyone know how I can get a usable backtrace from an assert triggered exit? MythListButton is asserting in QList but I'm not sure where the offending code is
18:51<janneg>gbee: breakpoint at q_assert
18:51<gbee>thanks
18:57<purserj>aaaand segfault on mythnews ;)
18:57<gbee>didn't work, but I googled with q_assert and found a mailing list post suggesting setting the breakpoint on abort()
18:57<gbee>which didn't work either :(
18:57<gbee>purserj: which bit?
18:58<purserj>the bit that attempts to download files
18:58<purserj>hold on Ill pastebin the log
18:59<janneg>gbee: sorry, qt_assert
19:00<gbee>janneg: thanks
19:00<gbee>purserj: hmm, didn't test that bit as I didn't think I'd modified it
19:00<janneg>or qt_assert_x
19:01<gbee>that last one did it, thanks
19:03<purserj>gbee: http://pastebin.ca/973147
19:03<purserj>actually let me try something
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19:06<purserj>okay I think the problem was something else using the available bandwidth, however what I am getting now is a whole bunch of 404 pages
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19:12<gbee>purserj: not sure it's anything I've done, could be a change related to QT4 - I'll need a backtrace to be sure
19:14<gbee>but first I need sleep
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19:23<gbee>one thing I didn't appreciate about MLB until now is that we never delete buttons, if the first list has 100 items we create 100 buttons, if it then drops to 4 the other 96 still exist we just hide them
19:24<purserj>okay, downloads worked with the cnet videos, so the youtube url stuff has been broken at some point. I'll have a look and see what needs to be done to fix it
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20:58<gene2>port 6547 is used by myth and is a conflict with APC Powerchute network shutdown and it seems in both apps this port cannot be changed.
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22:04<CDev>gene2: you can change the port to anything you want in myth by updating this setting in the config.xml file: <UPnP><MythFrontend><ServicePort>
22:04<CDev>oops. too late.
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