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05:37<stuarta>morning all
05:38<gbee>morning
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06:20<MrGandalf>blah
06:20*stuarta pokes MrGandalf
06:20<MrGandalf>too damned early
06:22<stuarta>indeed
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08:21<mkargar>hello friends:i want guide for config DVB card in mythtv!?
08:25*stuarta point to the topic, and to the mythtv website
08:34<mkargar>please help me?
08:35<GreyFoxx>Not in this channel
08:35<GreyFoxx>try #mythtv-users
08:38<mkargar>ok ok!!
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09:20<mkargar>mythtv Suported Analog tv card MSI TV @nywhere plus?
09:20<mkargar>*supported
09:21<stuarta>wrong channel
09:21<GreyFoxx>This is not the user support channel, you've been told already
09:21*stuarta is using the cluebat next time
09:22<mkargar>excusme!it Cannel is only foe Developer?
09:22<GreyFoxx>yes
09:22<mkargar>ok ok!thx!
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10:21<Cardoe>superm1: ping
10:26<superm1>hi Cardoe
10:26<superm1>what's up?
10:30<Cardoe>superm1: you support any of the xvmc opengl bits?
10:30<Cardoe>the nvidia specific stuff
10:30<Cardoe>cause I'm really thinking about tossing out Gentoo's support
10:30<Cardoe>too many people being a PITA with it
10:30<Cardoe>people enabling it when they shouldn't be
10:30<superm1>well we dont turn it on in our rules file no
10:30<superm1>it was way too unstable
10:31<Cardoe>exactly
10:31<Cardoe>it's off by default for us but I have the option
10:31<Cardoe>but too many damn ricers
10:31<superm1>haha, that's what gentoo breeds :)
10:31<Cardoe>eh
10:31<Cardoe>many people are sane
10:31<superm1>well i used to be one
10:31<Cardoe>it's that small segment of the population that gives us a bad rap
10:31<superm1>so at least speaking from that effect
10:32<superm1>here's what options are compiled into our builds:
10:32<superm1> linux profile using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_glx_proc_addr_arb using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_l
10:32<superm1>ive
10:32<Cardoe>where are you passing those?
10:33<superm1>oh that's just output from mythbackend --version
10:33<Cardoe>ah ok
10:33<superm1>i can give you the strings passed in debian/rules if you want
10:33<Cardoe>linux profile using_oss using_alsa using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live
10:34<Cardoe>some of those are kind of funny cause they're frontend only
10:34<superm1>libavc?
10:35<superm1>you found a way to nicely conditionally link against it?
10:35<Cardoe>no
10:35<superm1>oh wait
10:35<superm1>nvm
10:35<Cardoe>heh
10:35<superm1>i have that too, it's not what i was thinking
10:35<Cardoe>looks like the only difference is arts and jack
10:35<Cardoe>which are optional for us
10:35<superm1>and we have fftw3 on by default
10:36<superm1>and the glx-proc-arb fix in by default
10:36<Cardoe>and glx_proc_addr_arb, which is turned on based on your X config
10:36<Cardoe>see I was having a problem with that being on by default
10:36<superm1>why?
10:36<Cardoe>lemme peek :-D
10:39<Cardoe>I don't know to be honest
10:40<superm1>turning it on for us didn't hurt anyone, just made lots of folks with older machines happier
10:40<superm1>our big problem right now is any CPUs without cmov don't work
10:40<superm1>because we're just optimizing to i686
10:40<superm1>and i dont want to give up that optimization to just make a few VIA cpus work again
10:41<superm1>luckily you're immune to those types of problems :)
10:41<Cardoe>hmm. fft3 is an option for the main mythtv build...?
10:43<superm1>yup
10:43<superm1>TOP_SECRET_OPTS += --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaac --enable-libmp3lame \
10:43<superm1> --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --enable-libfftw3
10:43<superm1>none of those were advertised, but are available in configure
10:43<Cardoe>interesting
10:44<Cardoe>use aac && myconf="${myconf} --enable-libfaad"
10:44<Cardoe>that's the only one I've got
10:44<Cardoe>x264 and xvid I assume require the external depends?
10:44<superm1>yeah
10:44<superm1>so does fftw3 i think
10:45<Cardoe>do you pass --enable-gpl as well?
10:45<superm1>no
10:45<superm1>what's it do?
10:45<Cardoe>not sure
10:45<Cardoe>it's available as well
10:45<Cardoe>I wish I had more time to dig into MythTV. I've just been busy as hell with other projects
10:45<superm1>:)
10:46<superm1>speaking of which, i should leave for work. catch ya later
10:46<Cardoe>lol
10:46<Cardoe>alright. seeya
11:11<janneg>Cardoe: --enable-gpl is pointless, it's inherited from ffmpeg and enabled by default
11:12<Cardoe>janneg: and any of the top secret flags superm1 posted?
11:15<janneg>except --enable-libfftw3 all from ffmpeg too, --enable-libmp3lame is enabled and mythtv won't build without it, --enable-libx264, --enable-libfaac, --enable-libxvid wouldn't be used. only --enable-libfaad makes sense
11:15<janneg>--enable-libfftw3 can be used for the multi channel stuff
11:16<janneg>Cardoe: re #1104: I'm under the impression that all got committed before 0.21 was released, so there is nothing to backport
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11:17<Cardoe>janneg: it was committed after the branch I thought
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11:17<Cardoe>I'll have to double check
11:18<janneg>Cardoe: the gentoo bug is simply too old
11:18<Cardoe>it's 1 month old?
11:18<Cardoe>ah crap
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11:18<Cardoe>it's a year and a month old
11:19<janneg>Cardoe: #1104 has milestone 0.21 and the last commit referenced is before the release
11:19<Cardoe>yeah never mind
11:19<Cardoe>I was looking at the wrong thing
11:20<Cardoe>looks like the bug was wrangled wrong
11:20<Cardoe>and I never got it until recently
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11:33<Cardoe>janneg: we also don't need --enable-xvmc-vld if we're using --enable-xvmcw right?
11:46<janneg>probably not
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12:25<Cardoe>janneg: have you heard of mythmusic issues with AAC support?
12:26<Cardoe>http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1040
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12:26<Cardoe>basically Mythmusic is trying to link to an internal library
12:26<Cardoe>that has been made static
12:27<Cardoe>That's a bug tracker for Fedora addons... some people that build MythTV pkgs for Fedora
12:27<Cardoe>it has a lot of the details
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13:00<letmeknow>is mythv known to work with Indian Tv standard ?? (PAL-B) ??
13:01<kormoc>letmeknow, try the right channel
13:02<letmeknow>do u mean it should just work with PAL B ??
13:03<laga>no, it means you should ask in #mythtv-users
13:03<letmeknow>there is no one in that room
13:03<laga>there is
13:04<letmeknow>laga , if i join that room it shows me one user in room and thats me :(
13:05<laga>if i join that room it's full of people
13:05<letmeknow>i did read the comment for this room and joined the other group for uses and came back to this as this one has many people in the room
13:07<letmeknow>is the channel name correct ??
13:07<letmeknow>#mythtv-users
13:07<laga>yeah
13:08<laga>maybe your client isn't configured to use the correct network
13:08<letmeknow>but mythtv and mythv-users use same irc server rht ??
13:08<laga>yes
13:09<letmeknow>then how is it possible ?
13:09<laga>i don't know
13:10<letmeknow>oh this time i got it
13:10<letmeknow>ok moving to correct channel thanks for ur patience
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14:16<sutula>RE nVidia Preview 'Tegra' MID Platform: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/02/1441214&from=rss
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15:29<Cardoe>kormoc: I poked you on that mythmusic bug about whether it should be backported or not. tell me if I'm crazy or not
15:31<kormoc>Mornin'
15:32<kormoc>Typically I don't back-port anything, but given xris is fairly inactive, I might just start
15:32<Cardoe>kormoc: how ya been btw?
15:33<kormoc>Fairly well overall, how have you been?
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15:56<gbee>Overcomplicated, or worth the flexibility, especially once you factor in inheritance? http://pastebin.ca/1037154
15:57<gbee>Or, the third option? I'm procrastinating and I should just get on with it. ;)
15:58<MrGandalf>procrastination is always the best option. Often times if you procrastinate enough, the problem will disappear on its own.
15:59<MrGandalf>Why not put off to tomorrow what you'd likely screw up today - that's my motto.
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16:00<gbee>heh
16:04<gbee>I imagine themers might not like it at first sight, but once you can see the potential I think I could get them onside
16:05<gbee>so maybe all I'm trying to do now is get them used to the idea
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16:09<tim1>looks intresting
16:09<tim1>interesting*
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16:29<th1>gbee, is themes in xml already?
16:29<gbee>yes
16:30<tim1>looks very complicated lol
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16:44<Chutt>gbee, would the state inheritance work?
16:44<gbee>probably equal in complexity to the existing buttonlist or the old listarea, just more markup
16:45<gbee>Chutt: it should, but I've not done any practical tests yet
16:46<tim1>gbee will we have animation ?
16:47<gbee>tim1: yes, initially basic stuff, but the intention is to build on that once everything has been moved to the new code
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16:48<tim1>I cannot wait is there any thin i can do to help please. Wanted animation for years now !!!!!!!!!
16:49<kali67>hi, is there a way to get the cardid of a recorded program ?
16:49<gbee>modifications to mythlistbutton have gone smoother than I imagined, started a couple of hours ago and even despite my dithering it's more or less finished
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16:50<linxeh>hi there, I'm currently trying to decide what I need for a mythtv backend for normal DVB terrestrial in the UK, and possibly some DVB-S later. I've got the capture cards I want to use, but I'm wondering at the backend hardware... would a 2.0ghz p4 be enough, or should I use the amd 3500+ I've got instead ?
16:52<gbee>linxeh: the guys in #mythtv-users should be able to answer all your questions
16:53<linxeh>oh sorry
16:53<linxeh>I can't believe I didnt read the topic :(
16:53<linxeh>sorry guys
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16:54<stuarta>not the first, and won't be the last
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16:54<kali67>I know I can get it from the backend log, but I wanted to know if there is an entry in the DB for the cardid on which the program was recorded
16:55<MrGandalf>kali67: don't think so
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17:02<Chutt>gbee, how with the difference between background + selected_background?
17:05<gbee>Chutt: yeah I see your point
17:06<Chutt>(on the phone, so not responding quickly)
17:06<gbee>I meant for those both to be called "background", same for the textareas, but that doesn't actually avoid the problem so I'll have to rethink
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17:41<stuarta>i'm root. i don't need to run sudo anything
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