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01:38<wasabi>Curiously, is anybody working on any projects to convert myth's basic operation to UPnP? That is, a MediaServer that exposes live TV as videoBroadcast items, with schedules, and a fronend that is just a MediaRenderer of those?
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03:39<noaXess>hi all..
03:40<noaXess>i'm in sqitzerland.. and have cable tv.. i'm search ing for a dvb-c that is kompatible for mythtv.. in the requirements list of mythtv is only the Technotrend C1500 (DVB-C) card listed
03:40<noaXess>are there any other dvb-c cards that are compatible and arn't in the requirements list?.. any idea?
03:55<noaXess>hello?
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03:59<anykey_>noaXess: wrong channel, try #mythtv-users
04:00<noaXess>okay :)
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07:34<danielk23>wasabi: not that i know of, but that would be pretty cool..
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07:50<gbee>wasabi: I've not heard that anyone is working on that
07:52<gbee>there are plans, although no work has been done yet, to convert mythmusic and possible mythvideo to use upnp - where the backend is the server for all media and the frontend plugins just clients
07:54<gbee>as far as mythmusic goes, some other protocol, or as currently happens, direct database access would still be required for the stuff which upnp isn't suited
08:23<GreyFoxx>Out of curiousity, what info would mythmusic need that we couldn't supply via upnp ?
08:25<gbee>GreyFoxx: well I was thinking in terms of frontend settings
08:26<gbee>does upnp provide the ability to send information back to the server, e.g. changes to music ratings or metadata?
08:26<GreyFoxx>At this point , for music data specifically, ,I thnk it's read only
08:26<GreyFoxx>but settings from the settings table are get/put able
08:27<gbee>through the xml methods or pure upnp?
08:27<GreyFoxx>xml methods
08:28<gbee>ok, I'm not that familiar with upnp and how the xml methods fit in with it
08:28<GreyFoxx>Check out MXML_scpd.xml in programs/mythbackend/
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08:29<cursty87_>hi
08:29<gbee>the xml stuff can be used for just about everything else, the 'other protocol' I mentioned
08:29<cursty87_>one question, i need a good command to start my vlc in mythtv, fullscreen and so on, the mplayer was perfect but i don't know a lot of about vlc
08:30<gbee>cursty87_: this is the developers channel, you want #mythtv-users
08:30<GreyFoxx>yeah the xml stuff
08:30<GreyFoxx>oops
08:30<cursty87_>oh sorry :-)
08:32<gbee>GreyFoxx: I really need to read up on upnp, are the xml methods in some way registered with upnp as extensions or just something we've tacked on to handle what upnp can't?
08:33*gbee goes to read MXML_scpd.xml
08:33<GreyFoxx>gbee: We added extensions for stuff that's not "official". And when the client downloads the description xml files like MXML_scpd.xml it defines the addons
08:34<gbee>ahh, ok :)
08:36<GreyFoxx>Honestly I'd love to get my hands on a better more advanced upnp capable client for testing stuff we implement already and for stuff we want to add in the future
08:37<GreyFoxx>like livetv over upnp
08:44<GreyFoxx>Anyone know of any software clients that support the livevideo object.item.videoItem.videoBroadcast stuff ?
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09:00<Ace2016>Hi all
09:03<Ace2016>Can i use transparent images in a mythtv theme?
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09:13<gbee>yes
09:13<gbee>png
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09:39<GreyFoxx>dust: ffmpeg has ffplay as a commandline player
09:39<GreyFoxx>oops
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09:59<AlexW>Hey all
10:00<AlexW>Is there anyway to run the frontend on an xbox without installing linux
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11:06<wasabi>upnp isn't read only from what I understand.
11:07<wasabi>Well, the AV protocols themselves. if they are, then adding extensions is not that big of a deal.
11:07<GreyFoxx>wasa: No, but our streaming stuff is
11:07<GreyFoxx>the client can't push back metadata updates
11:07<wasabi>UPnP, being just a basic object/method remoting protocol with some standardization: if the standards are missing a feature, adding a method for Myth specifically is not a big deal.
11:07<GreyFoxx>which is what I was referring to at the time
11:08<GreyFoxx>but it's definately something we can modify as needed to make mythmusic work as a upnp client
11:09<wasabi>Got me. UPnP isn't read-only, I know that much.
11:10<wasabi>if the server supports modifying a property, and the client supports it, then it works.
11:10<GreyFoxx>certainly
11:11<GreyFoxx>yay lunch time, bbiab
11:11<wasabi>So, mythtv server and mythtv client can work as they want to, with the new benefit that they'll both work with !mythtv partners, with less features.
11:35<Ace2016>What remove control can i use with mythtv?
11:48<gbee>Ace2016: #mythtv-users
11:49<Ace2016>oh ok
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12:01<mkargar_> hello all friends!i have problem in configuration mysql for Mythtv for running mythtv!!??how to config mysql and then run it?
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12:20<dragonian>mkargar_: #mythtv-users
12:23<mkargar_>dragonian:ok and THX!
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13:06<GreyFoxx>]]]]]]pptelnet localhosty
13:06<GreyFoxx>oops
13:06<GreyFoxx>wtf was that
13:09<iamlindoro__>Your cat is learning, get rid of it while you still can
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13:37<MrGandalf>blah
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15:08<Ace2016>The theme i'm working on nowhttp://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02yp0.png
15:08<Ace2016>now
15:08<Ace2016>http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02yp0.png
15:08<laga>Ace2016: it's possible that justin will yell at you. just ignore him ;)
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15:08<iamlindoro__>I think it's a nice start. I rather like the blingy-minimalist thing.
15:10<laga>yeah, it looks very nice.
15:26<gbee>heh, mythverbose doesn't have cerr
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15:45<Ace2016>thanks
15:45<Ace2016>but the background isn't mine, so i have to get permission for it first
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