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01:23<daryll>hi
01:23<daryll>where does the recordings go to? is it different from Live TV directory?
01:23<daryll>I don't want mythtv to keep on writing to my harddisk when watching livetv
01:23<daryll>is it possible to mount a ramdisk to livetv directory?
01:23<daryll> but also keep an actual harddisk for recordings?
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01:34<hads>daryll: See the topic, ask in #mythtv-users
01:38<daryll>ok thanks, got it
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05:07<cskowronnek>is there a way to turn off live tv buffering?
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05:14<laga>no
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05:17<hads>Is that the topic of the day?
05:22<Dibblah>It appears it is.
05:23<Dibblah>Maybe we should move to having a circular buffer type thing. We could call it something catchy like a ringbuffer...
05:25<hads>heh
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05:41<clever>lol
05:41<clever>i started out with a mythtv version that used a seperate ringbuffer:P
05:41<clever>0.18!
05:42<laga>yeah, that was the point
05:42<clever>if you have enough ram
05:42<clever>and are close by the record point
05:43<clever>then in theory the reads should be cache hits because the data was just writen out
05:43<clever>but that depends on how the kernel shares the cached data of recently writen things
05:47<clever>mysql> delete from settings where hostname='my-unique-identifier-goes-here';
05:47<clever>Query OK, 170 rows affected (0.07 sec)
05:47<clever>horay for bugs!
05:48<clever>my backend failed to connect once(to the mysql) so it assumed mysql.txt was invalid and began asking me for details
05:48<clever>but stdin wasnt a terminal so it defaulted everything
05:48<clever>including the hostname override!
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11:51<danielk22>is ghaushe still working on mythtranscode? i'm looking at #5150, it looks like the code was originally written by marcus metzler and added to mythtv by ghaushe..
11:53<iamlindoro_>Interesting Side note, 5150 is the California Welfare and Institutions law that allows a mentally ill person to be committed against their will
11:53<danielk22>btw there are only 5 erik hovland tickets left :) (He's on vacation)
11:55<Chutt>danielk22, he hasn't checked anything in in ages
11:56<danielk22>hmm, do you know where the upstream code lives? if there is a fix upstream there maybe we can sync from that..
11:57<Chutt>i don't think there was, aside from replex for mpeg2 transcoding?
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11:57<danielk22>replex is the code with problems..
11:57<Chutt>ah
11:57<Chutt>no, no idea where it's from
11:58<danielk22>k, I'll e-mail Marcus :)
11:58<Chutt>http://freshmeat.net/projects/dvb-replex/
11:58<Chutt>that looks correct
11:58<iamlindoro_>http://www.metzlerbros.org/dvb/
11:58<danielk22>yep
11:58<Chutt>hasn't been updated in a year
11:58<iamlindoro_>I don't think it's been touched in a looonnng time
11:59<danielk22>well our version is 3 years old, so there is still hope :)
12:00<iamlindoro_>Maybe synching it up will solve #2077 too
12:00<iamlindoro_>That one has also been around forever, and is also a replex problem
12:01<danielk22>i'd probably need a test file for that..
12:01<iamlindoro_>I can provide one
12:01<iamlindoro_>actually
12:01<iamlindoro_>I think I linked a few files in the ticket somewhere that have that problem, they should still be there
12:02<iamlindoro_>#3274 is a dupe of #2077 AFAICT
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12:37<danielk22>it looks like the upstream replex is a poor cousin of myth replex -- lots of stuff has been added to ours which isn't in upstream.
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13:49<MrGandalf>has anyone seen a case where QMutex::lock will wait indefinately if another QMutex::lock in another thread attempts to lock the same source at the exact same time?
13:52<danielk22>mrg: no, that would be a pretty serious mutex bug..
13:52<MrGandalf>danielk22: I think I've seen two cases of it so far though
13:53<MrGandalf>or at least one
13:53<MrGandalf>the other I'm not sure about yet
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13:54<danielk22>you might want to look at the QMutex code then, maybe there is a bug. but i highly doubt something like that would make it out into the wild from TrollTech.
13:55<danielk22>I would suspect a packager patch...
13:59<MrGandalf>I compiled my own Qt.
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14:02<janneg>it would be valid behaviour if the QMutex is static
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14:13<MrGandalf>janneg: BTW, regarding messages like: AddTSPacket: Out of sync!!! Need to wait for next payloadStart
14:13<MrGandalf>I had a thought, could those be because you're adding and removing those PIDs and not resetting the continuity between each?
14:14<MrGandalf>continuity counter, that is
14:17<MrGandalf>often times I only get continuity errors right after the AddPIDFilter() call for that PID.
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14:45<stuarta>MrGandalf: you could get that because the first few packets on that pid don't start from CC=0
14:45<stuarta>ie. midstream
14:45<MrGandalf>yes
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14:46<MrGandalf>I remember there was talk several months ago as to why we were seeing continuity errors.
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14:46<MrGandalf>and it dawned on my just recently why.. I know, I'm a bit slow sometimes. :)
14:46<MrGandalf>s/my/me/
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14:47<goreguts>hello, does anyone happen to know why i wouldnt be able to fast forward in mplayer in large (>4gig) .mkv files?
14:48<MrGandalf>wrong channel
14:48<stuarta>mplayer != myth even
14:48<stuarta>so it's doubly the wrong channel
14:49<MrGandalf>stuarta: thus why I didn't direct him to the topic or users channel :)
14:49<stuarta>:)
14:49*stuarta does an update to see what danielk22 has merged into trunk
14:50<goreguts>i know... i was just wondering
14:50<goreguts>i figured someone in here may be using mplayer in myth
14:52<goreguts>oh crap its the dev channel, sorry
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14:53<stuarta>he was a bit slow
14:58*stuarta wanders off
15:08<clever>24 13:44:07 < GreyFoxx> Anyone played with the QT4 QUdpSocket stuff? I'm porting over the udpnotify class and while I am binding and listening on the port the code
15:08<clever>that seems to explain my problem exactly!
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15:13<clever>chanset 17238 looks like my exact problem!
15:18<MrGandalf>danielk22: couple months back you added support for two new switch types in diseqc.cpp, kTypeVoltage and kTypeTone.
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15:20<MrGandalf>danielk22: I'm using both (DirecTV tone/voltage switch) but the kTypeVoltage us sorta useless since ShouldSwitch() returns false if the port is the same, however, the voltage could have changed by horizontal/veryical
15:21<MrGandalf>I'd put in a ticket, but this is such a unique configuration anyway.
15:21<MrGandalf>even defining a voltage switch type is somewhat unique as well
15:22<stuarta>is it currently ~= 12.22pm Pacific Time?
15:22<MrGandalf>I'm thinking ShouldChange() should always return true for kTypeVoltage and kTypeTone.
15:22<MrGandalf>yes
15:22<stuarta>goodo :)
15:23<MrGandalf>er, make that ShouldSwitch().
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15:43<danielk22>mrg: if you're in a position to test these switches, I'd go with your judgement.
15:48<stuarta>hmmm, trunk just gave me a coredump at ~ScanProgressPopup() upon completing scanning
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15:50<sphery>stuarta: SMP system? If so, try pinning to one core/proc.
15:52<danielk22>i'm slowly working on a new channel scanner without all the crazy mixing of complicated ui with complicated scanner. i've given up on trying to make the old channel scanner threadsafe after a number of attempts.
15:53<sphery>stuarta: Here's a link from Dibblah: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html .
15:53<MrGandalf>danielk22: thanks, I'll create a patch. My reasoning is that tuning can reset the voltage and ShouldSwitch() would never know it and return false.
15:54<stuarta>nope
15:55<stuarta>single core
15:56<MrGandalf>eew, eitScanStartTime now figures in eitTransportTimeout.. that's why my EIT scanner doesn't kick in when I expect it.
15:56<stuarta>SIScan::loc (siscan=0x82cf80) at siscan.cpp:38
15:57<stuarta>that's in the debug printouts
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17:11<janneg>hmm, MrGandalf left. AddTSPacket: Out of sync!!! Need to wait for next payloadStart
17:11<janneg>is not related to the continuity counter
17:12<janneg>the data doesn't start with a ts sync byte 0x47, which is hardware/driver dependent
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17:47<stuarta>my bad
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19:05<pyther>Hi
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20:43<reynaldo>hey guys, did anyone have any time to look at http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5465 ?
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20:45<danielk22>reynaldo: i think kormoc is the only person who can at the moment.
20:47<Chutt>gbee rather
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20:47<Chutt>actually, this would probably be rejected, since it's not against libmythui
20:48<danielk22>chutt: i have a mythui q for you
20:48<Chutt>shoot
20:48<danielk22>i've been trying to use MythDialogBox in the channel importer with no joy
20:48<Chutt>if it's on top of an old ui screen, it won't work
20:48<reynaldo>Chutt: talked with gbee a few days ago already, he said it was ok..
20:48<danielk22>do mythui objects have to be on top of other mythui objects still
20:48<Chutt>right.
20:49<danielk22>ok, so I'll use MythDialog for now :(
20:49<reynaldo>although, he didnt see the current incarnation of the patch so, guess I'll have to wait
20:49<Chutt>reynaldo, did you talk about it being against the old ui code?
20:49<reynaldo>Chutt: he knows.
20:50<Chutt>danielk22, with qt4, i can't do the hack i was contemplating at one point to make the old ui work like the new one
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20:50<reynaldo>he saw a draft of the patch and suggested a few changes even
20:50<Chutt>err, work _with_ the new one, rather
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20:50<reynaldo>why has he been absent for so long ?
20:50<reynaldo>I kind of remember seen him here like, allways
20:51<reynaldo>allways/always
20:51<reynaldo>danielk22: kormoc ?
20:52<Chutt>danielk22, the other alternative would be to port the settings screen to mythui =)
20:55<danielk22>heh
20:56<danielk22>that's a big task...
20:56<danielk22>if someone ports the wizard i would port individual options and screens as time permits...
20:57<danielk22>(i'm assuming that's how it works.)
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21:02<danielk22>chutt: would I only need to port the things under "Input connections" in mythtv-setup?
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21:15<Chutt>yeah
21:15<danielk22>chutt: heh, my hello world for Input Connections worked.. i'll give porting "Input Connections" and the stuff below it a try... i'm rewriting much of the channel scanner up anyway... i'll bug you and stuart m as appropriate.
21:15<danielk22>up -> ui
21:15<Chutt>cool.
21:15<Chutt>'slong as it's all generic
21:15<Chutt>should make starting on the rest of the ui easier =)
21:16<danielk22>is there already any generic DB modifying "Settings" arch?
21:17<Chutt>just the old settings stuff
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21:17<Chutt>which is tied to the widgets, so, it's out
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21:20<danielk22>ok, e-mail me any requirements/desires you have for that... i won't start porting until this weekend anyway..
21:20<Chutt>hadn't thought about it
21:20<Chutt>other than a vague notion of wanting to try and keep the upper-level interface simple like it is onw
21:20<Chutt>now
21:21<Chutt>for settings, there was also vague thoughts about moving more stuff to an internal web server, for instance
21:21<Chutt>and least, the complicated stuff
21:22<danielk22>i know squat about web programming, so i can't help there.
21:22<Chutt>well, it'd be all c++
21:22<Chutt>just generating settings pages internally
21:22<Chutt>but, like i said, vague thoughts
21:23<danielk22>k
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21:23<danielk22>i'll give it a bit of vague thought before i start writing down something concrete :)
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21:41<sphery>reynaldo: gbee hasn't been "absent for ... long"--there are patches in track that are months (possibly years) old. The devs will get to them when they have time. As users who are just trying to help out, we have to just create the best patches we can, post them to trac, and move on to the next patch. Then, fix the patches when requested figure out a new plan when the patch is rejected. :)
21:41<reynaldo>sphery: hehe, I guess Im not that kind of user
21:41<sphery>s/requested figure/requested or figure/
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21:42<reynaldo>I just needed that functionality and gbee asked me for a patch
21:42<reynaldo>so I did, Im not saying I can't wait, I was just asking because I saw I havent been around for some days
21:43<reynaldo>I saw I havent / I saw he hasn't
21:43<reynaldo>other than that I do know hoe long can take for upstream on project X to apply patch from luser Y
21:44<reynaldo>meaning I'm kind of prepared to wait for some time, I'm the 'Y' :-)
21:46<Chutt>you are right, btw - gbee is usually around more
21:46<reynaldo>yup
21:46<reynaldo>he kind of disapeared last weekend or so
21:47<sphery>Well, he'll get to it when he can, but it won't go into the released version until 0.22 (assuming it's not obsoleted by the mythui port), so until then you'll have to compile your own, anyway. My oldest patches ( #4748 , #4754, #4760 , #4853 , #4860 ) in Trac right now are 4 months old. I apply them on my system, and eventually, they will be available to others. :)
21:48<sphery>(Though, in case any bored devs are reading, I'm actually working on #4760 , right now, so no hurry on it. :)
21:50<Chutt>wow, we're up to > 500 open tickets now?
21:50<reynaldo>sphery: yup, I guess it will take some time. Thanks for yours anyway ;)
21:51<GreyFoxx>issac it was 630 a few days ago
21:52<GreyFoxx>awful lot of closed tickets lately :)
21:55<sphery>danielk22's pushing though Erik's patches was a big help.
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22:49<Chutt>doh
22:50<Chutt>danielk22, there's code in decoderbase that assumes gopsize = 15 if NTSC
22:50<Chutt>if using the GOP-based map
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22:58<Chutt>ugh
22:58<Chutt>so to fix:
22:58<Chutt>- db update to convert GOP_START -> BYFRAME
22:58<Chutt>- mpegrecorder to set BYFRAME
22:59<Chutt>- DTVRecorder::HandlePSKeyframe minor fix to use the framenum instead of gopnum
22:59<Chutt>- remove GOP_START from code
22:59<Chutt>i'll look into it.
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